The Jeremy Kyle Show 1st October 2018
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00:00On today's show...
00:02He admitted that in the past he'd been on swinging websites, is that right?
00:06Yes.
00:09Did he sleep with men and women or just...?
00:11I'm not 100% certain.
00:13I was in the past.
00:16When I got with you, he ended.
00:19Nelson, for the sake of our baby, I hope you pass.
00:31Tell me about Notting Hill Carnival.
00:33I paid for him to go down there cos he said he didn't have no money.
00:36And while he was down there, one of his friends told me
00:38that he'd slept with somebody else while he was down there.
00:41There was some rather intimate comment
00:43about him liking some message, wasn't there?
00:46I loved the taste of you last night.
00:51So you're fully prepared to leave here today as a single mother?
00:53Yeah.
00:54You mean that as well, don't you?
00:55Yeah.
01:00What a hell of a star!
01:16Hello, my friends, good morning and a big, big welcome to the show.
01:18Right, my first guest today, Tory, is here for
01:20Make or Break Lie Detector Results with a fiancée, Nelson.
01:23She says that she was furious when she found messages on his phone
01:26from another man calling him Big Boy.
01:28CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
01:30She's never happened to me.
01:31She says when she first met Nelson,
01:33he admitted to being on swinging websites
01:36and is terrified he's returned to his old ways.
01:38She says their wedding is on hold until Nelson proves he's not a cheat.
01:42This girl, right, let's be honest, it's all right to read that out,
01:45but to be in her situation, pregnant, massively in love,
01:49to read that, you're going to be a bag of nerves.
01:51We're going to go back just round here a minute.
01:53Just give her a round of applause, cos it's difficult, boys.
01:54It's difficult.
01:55It's difficult.
01:56It's difficult.
01:57It's difficult.
01:58It's difficult.
02:01I'm nervous.
02:02Don't worry.
02:03I know you're nervous.
02:04I know they've told me that all morning.
02:06I really appreciate you being here.
02:07Don't worry about him.
02:08He should be doing something far more valuable.
02:10Look at me.
02:12Talk to me about you and Nelson.
02:13How long have you been together?
02:14A year and two weeks now.
02:15Engaged?
02:16Yes.
02:17How'd you meet?
02:18We met online.
02:19You say, and your opening line to the team was,
02:22I'm 100% sure that he's a cheat.
02:24Why?
02:25There was a guy who messaged him, saying that,
02:28sorry about fab swingers.
02:30And also, he's turned round and said,
02:33don't worry about it.
02:34And then this guy said, call me.
02:36And he went, hi, big boy.
02:38And he's all right.
02:39It's going to make you slightly worried, isn't it?
02:40Now, when you first got together, you talked,
02:43or I think when these first messages were found,
02:46and he admitted that in the past,
02:47he'd been on swinging websites.
02:49Is that right?
02:50Yes.
02:51Everybody has a past.
02:52Oh, yeah.
02:53So he wasn't, he was actively in that scene.
02:55Did he sleep with men and women or just?
02:57I'm not 100% certain.
02:59Okay.
03:00But you had that conversation,
03:02said that's your past,
03:03and got on with the relationship.
03:05But as time has passed,
03:06I mean, you made a point as well.
03:08You're saying to my team,
03:09it's always really secretive with his phone.
03:11He deletes messages.
03:13And it doesn't add up, right?
03:17Yeah.
03:18Well, he's not secretive with his phone,
03:19but the messages have been deleted.
03:21Did he ever ask you to go swinging?
03:23No, he wouldn't.
03:25He knows I'm not into that sort of stuff.
03:27Do you, what's your biggest fear?
03:29I'm frightened he's cheated on me.
03:31With a man, with a woman, with both?
03:33Both.
03:34On the other side,
03:36there are many situations on this show
03:38whereby people have changed their lives,
03:40got happy,
03:42put themselves in a good position,
03:44and yet the people from the past
03:46can't accept that,
03:48and thus they cause trouble,
03:50send messages, stir whatever.
03:52You need to come out there with me.
03:54Can I be able to do it?
03:56Yeah.
03:57Give her a round of applause, ladies and gentlemen.
03:58Come on, you okay?
03:59Yeah.
04:00You sure?
04:01Yeah.
04:02You're doing really, really well.
04:03You're doing really well.
04:04You're doing well.
04:05You're doing well.
04:06You're doing well.
04:07You're doing well.
04:08You're doing well.
04:09You're doing well.
04:11Really important as well on this show,
04:13um, Tory,
04:14that everybody gets a chance to have their say.
04:16You've said yours.
04:17We want to get him out,
04:18um,
04:19and give him the chance.
04:20Um,
04:21you say, I want to fix things.
04:22I want the truth.
04:23But you say,
04:24the wedding will go,
04:25and our relationship will finish
04:26if this guy's a cheat.
04:27Nelson is on the Jeremy Kyle show that way.
04:37Hi.
04:38Nice to meet you.
04:39You all right?
04:40What about yourself?
04:41You're from Portugal?
04:42I am.
04:43Well done, sir.
04:44Uh, I'm desperate to prove I'm not a cheat.
04:45Tory is the love of my life.
04:46Well, I'm sick of the arguing.
04:47What's going on here, pal?
04:48What's going on?
04:49Constant arguing over the tiniest thing.
04:53It can create a big fuss, uh...
04:55Were you a swinger in the past?
04:57In the past, yes.
04:58Men and women?
04:59Just women.
05:00You've said that very forcefully,
05:02but swinging is couples, isn't it?
05:04Not exactly.
05:05Um,
05:07how can you, if you've done that,
05:10convince her,
05:11because she doesn't seem to believe,
05:12that you've put that behind you?
05:14I had the account on the website at the time.
05:17When I got with her,
05:19in front of her,
05:20deleted the account,
05:21in front of her...
05:22The bloke that messaged you and called you a big boy
05:24was a bloke from the swinging scene?
05:26A bloke, which I explained to her,
05:28I met before the swinging side.
05:31Why did he call you a big boy?
05:32He just banter between me and him.
05:34That's all there is.
05:36He's gay.
05:37Why would a gay guy call you a big boy?
05:39I don't know,
05:40but he's just banter between me and him.
05:42That's all there is.
05:43Nothing else.
05:44It's not banter though, is it?
05:46To me it is.
05:47That's how I see it.
05:48That's how he sees it.
05:49What about the other people you were messaging?
05:51You had women, didn't you?
05:52Had some on Facebook.
05:53Look at me getting quite technical, didn't you?
05:55Yeah, I did.
05:56It was a very old friend of mine.
05:59Over 20 years I've met her.
06:01Yeah.
06:02Jesse just tried to video chat me on Facebook.
06:05I can't answer.
06:06I would reject the call.
06:08Never crossed my mind to tell I have such a friend,
06:10because I have loads of friends.
06:12Never crossed my mind.
06:13He said to us,
06:14and I think it's quite relevant,
06:15you know, when I was on the swinging scene,
06:16if you've just tuned in that's not me, that's him.
06:18When I was on the swinging scene,
06:20I met lots of people,
06:21met lots of friends,
06:22and some of them have stayed in contact.
06:24And I...
06:25I mean, that could be true, right?
06:26You don't believe this at all, do you?
06:28No.
06:29She doesn't believe you at all.
06:30Talk to her.
06:31I don't think it's okay,
06:32because if you've slept with someone,
06:33how do I know you're not meeting them?
06:34How...
06:35And then there's this...
06:36Have you slept with people in the past?
06:37Oh, yeah, but I...
06:38Are you meeting them?
06:39Oh, gosh, no.
06:40But I didn't go swinging and...
06:41No.
06:42You see, the thing is,
06:44I was there in the past.
06:47When I got with you,
06:49it ended.
06:52Um...
06:53You need to be, you know...
06:55I mean, you are quite a cold fish.
06:57Most men or women who would purport to be in love with somebody
07:00sat in a chair sobbing their heart out,
07:02you would have comforted them, wouldn't you?
07:04Yes.
07:05Why didn't you, then?
07:06He never apologises when he's in the wrong way.
07:08I always have to apologise.
07:09Why do you put up with it?
07:11Because then...
07:12And you know the hardest thing about doing this job,
07:14whenever anybody slags me off,
07:15this is the truth.
07:16I feel really, really sorry for you,
07:17but the only person that can change that is you, darling,
07:19because you will give the impression that you're desperate
07:21and allow him to get away with it,
07:22because you do allow him to get away with it.
07:24The only person that can change his behaviour,
07:25because he ain't going to,
07:26because you've allowed him to get away with it,
07:27is you, isn't it?
07:28APPLAUSE
07:29How many people think Nelson's telling the truth?
07:37How many people think Nelson's a liar?
07:45Are you telling the truth?
07:46I am.
07:47100%?
07:48200%.
07:49200%.
07:50We asked Nelson, since the start of your relationship with Tory,
07:52have you patched and kissed anyone else?
07:54You said no. Why'd you say no?
07:55I was telling his truth.
07:56Tess says you're a liar.
07:57Can you, er, can you leave the camera, please?
08:02I'm going to go to a break after the minute, don't you?
08:06I don't care who I don't convince.
08:08Do you know how lucky you are?
08:09I know Zoe Hardy of my agent.
08:11I have not touched a single person before.
08:12Do you know how lucky you are to have someone like me?
08:14Look at me.
08:15Then look at you.
08:17I am one million times better than you will ever be.
08:22There was some rather intimate comment about him
08:24liking some message, wasn't there?
08:26I loved the taste of you last night.
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08:58Thank you very much for being welcome back.
08:59Graham's here.
09:00Listen, you want to talk to him?
09:01All right, now.
09:02Failed every single question.
09:03Now, remember what I said to you.
09:04Remember what I said to you.
09:05Look at me.
09:06Look at me.
09:07Look at me.
09:08I'm not even going to get angry with him.
09:09Because if you are honest with yourself, you knew that.
09:10And if you are honest, and this is harsh, but I mean it nicely.
09:14There was far more from you in this relationship, not just the money, the effort, the intensity.
09:38it was all about you wanted it to work nobody's loved me before you can't make
09:43somebody love you and what I want you to do with her help with everybody's help
09:46is to go in there and go you might think you can destroy me this is the truth I
09:51will do this on my own because I'm worth more don't show him that you're in
09:55it's true I haven't let anyone come on hey keep yourself calm please don't have
10:09to remember this I you don't have to do this you wanted to do this you do I need
10:13to do this who's there for the sake of myself I don't deserve this I haven't
10:17touched you always when we're at home this always stands you're a liar I
10:24I deserve more I haven't touched yeah you do deserve more and the only person who
10:28can get more is you you're a dodgy listen I'm not bothered the only person is is
10:32is you and I do this show and in an hour somebody will say to me always back with
10:36her you are not going to improve this situation unless with our help from the
10:40bottom looking after this you go do you know what I'm gonna be desperate rather
10:44be on my own than be with that you don't convince anybody the whole audience gets
10:48that I don't care who I don't convince you know how I know the reality of my
10:52agent I have not touched this you know how lucky you are to have someone like me
10:57look at me then look at you
11:00million times better than you will ever be I have beautiful children you treat like
11:04I don't deserve this and neither do my children so you can pack your bags and you
11:09go away go away I know so that will have been the hardest thing right but I also know that Karen and
11:31Graham and the team will work with you and this is the worst moment but there's only one way and
11:35that's upwards you just said it your children you your unborn child deserve better than that
11:41yeah we'll work with you all right give a round of applause
11:44good luck to them we'll let you know right my next guest today Lindsay is here for all important lie
11:55detector results after hearing rumors that a partner Andrew had cheated on her on a trip she funded to
12:01Notting Hill Carnival not only this but Lindsay says she saw messages sent to another woman from him
12:06Andrew saying that he loved the taste of her last night despite being pregnant with Andrew's baby
12:12Lindsay says if he fails the lie detector this relationship will be over this lady is in bits and
12:17it's a massively important day Lindsay's on the car show that way
12:24I appreciate you coming on thank you and I've said before some people come out here and it's all
12:33whatever I get don't worry about them you're fine they should be at work but yes okay yeah 15 weeks
12:41pregnant with the baby of a man that you freely admit you adore yeah why are you on the Jeremy Kyle
12:46show to expose him for his lies how do you know he's a liar I've seen text messages I've seen numerous
12:54things it just lies constantly this title when I was given it this morning said 15 weeks pregnant with
13:01you baby but am I really your mistress you feel like some dirty secret don't you that's what you
13:06feel like I don't really feel like a dirty secret it's just the fact he hid me for a while and then when
13:13it did come out he never told anybody I was pregnant for ages who's the idea to come here he rang the
13:18show why would you do that if you're guilty exactly he's not a bad man though he's got some very good
13:24attributes in me yeah but but why lie to me all the time tell me about Notting Hill carnival you
13:31paid what's the I paid for him to go down there because he said he didn't have no money and while
13:36he was down there one of his friends told me that it slept with somebody else while he was down there
13:41and I give him the money to go there if your feelings are so strong in terms of what you believe
13:46to be the truth why don't you put up with it why haven't you gone already why even come here
13:50why if you're so set on believing that it's that bad why haven't last straw what is why we're here
13:58what happens if he fails what happens I'm gone but they all say that why would you do that you're
14:03pregnant you'll be a single mother so I've done it before I'll do it again what if he passes
14:08I mean don't take it's the wrong way you had to hack into his Facebook and then you found all
14:16these messages there can't be a relationship in the world that's normal if you have to hack into
14:20somebody's phone or Facebook is that it's because when he sat down they said this is his phone yes
14:25on silent and as it stuck down like that all the time why would you do that if you've got nothing
14:28to hide like the screens facing down all times and it's on silent I said in the introduction I
14:34didn't feel very comfortable with it I don't want to disrespect you you're pregnant and I like you but
14:38there was some rather intimate comment about him liking the some message wasn't there and I loved the
14:45taste of you last night and he was supposed to be with me then but he said it was before me but the
14:51day is and we don't need to lay out what that potentially could mean what you're saying is
14:57there is in your mind enough for you to think my god I'm pregnant with a man that's cheated I think
15:05there's more than one as well so you're fully prepared to leave here today as a single mother yeah
15:10you mean that as well don't you I don't massively sort of respect you because you've grown in about
15:16three minutes in confidence because at the end of the day without wanting to sound like some
15:20populist person you know you should be empowered if you're pregnant as a woman and you are treated
15:26like that you shouldn't accept it but he might be telling the truth you could be totally wrong
15:31he's gonna fail it I know he is gotta give him the benefit of the doubt um he says I can't believe I'm
15:37being accused when I first saw her I knew she was the one for me I promise you she might not trust
15:43me but I'm going to prove to you all that I am the man she needs Andrew's on the Jeremy car show
15:48thank you for coming and you welcome to the show let's start with this I can't believe I'm being
16:07accused of cheating that's right where's that message the one that she said what that which one
16:11we're talking about now there are the rude one I liked or the one that it was before her but it
16:16wasn't it was October it was before you know it wasn't okay it was my team I'm here to defend my
16:21honor I'm here to defend my honor my reputation I'm a decent man I've read about you and it's
16:26fascinating you you want a pride of Britain award well I was a regional pride of Britain winner I was
16:32not air ITV's nomination for the pride of Britain good for you and we also won the GG to what was that
16:39for and working with young children and changing and their mindsets why would a man that's done
16:45something like that and cares about young children cheating a woman is carrying his baby ask him why
16:51would you she thinks you have have you oh I haven't so that yeah we haven't said it was before me but
16:57yeah it's just done the lie detector test from August and this was in the October time these messages
17:01tell my team she's listening to other people more than me she says she has proof but I've never
17:05seen it and and actually you said she's making my life hell yes she's constantly on mine it doesn't
17:12make a difference now I could tell her it's 7 30 in the evening and I'd be lying and she'd get a text
17:17off her friend my team which I think is really really interesting that she's never really been
17:20shown any love and and finds that you think and certainly as a pregnant woman may be feeling a
17:25little bit more insecure I don't know but you say that that it's just she's never had proper love
17:31and that's why she's behaving as she is yeah she doesn't know she's scared she don't want to go
17:35for all then that she's been for already how can you say that the only reason I'm like I am is
17:41because of the text messages that I've seen and you keep saying it's before me but you've just gone
17:45and done a lie detector test from August so how can you say that when these messages were sent in
17:48October okay so when the lie detector comes back right because remember you told these people are you
17:54sorry are you the blue or the gray on those which which is the gray oh yeah oh I'm glad you got it
18:00up if you notice apart from yeah you good you okay all of these persons messages have been deleted
18:06there's only my side of this this here all right so why are you asking yeah exactly damning though is
18:13it hey how's your day good you ready to come for coffee again yeah you hey you okay is it I'm not
18:20listen I don't know are you paranoid that is supposed to being snaking on me with so why would you be
18:24arranging to go around there for coffee snaking on her with supposed to have I told her she's got she
18:29got set up here right she's and there could be and I've done this a long time do you think there
18:33could be people out there who are jealous of your relationship or maybe leave a message up where
18:38it says about him being a player in a headwrecker I know that was sent off somebody else now why would
18:43somebody send you that message if you haven't had nothing to do with them right basically two mates talking I
18:48don't know listen we could go around in circles are you going to pass this test yeah absolutely you
18:51jealous talk sort of person yeah but only because he's met me how many people just before I go to a
18:56break and we'll come back with those results how many people in the audience think that Andrew is
19:00telling the truth you know what do you know what it is I love this girl I'm not I'm not I don't love her
19:08I'm in love with her I'm back in three with those all important lie detector results we're coming back
19:13I don't go when these results come back in you don't have to leave me if I'm lying I'll walk myself
19:19you can fail we'll see that way did he passionately kissed anyone other than Lindsay from August yeah
19:24mm-hmm did I turn up on the front with him when I said oh was he at the side of me when I turned up on the front
19:32use both was he no was he at the side of me when I did I even go near him if she fails today that's it
19:38I'm walking away it's gone have you cheated on him in the last 18 months
19:41thank you my friends you're welcome back before the break speaking to Lindsay and to Andrew anybody
19:56can see what this means to you of other children but this is the man that you say you fell in love
20:00with but she absolutely believes you're a cheat you are super smooth people would say and and able to
20:05to talk the talk I thank you but are you a cheat well we'll soon find out but my thing is to you
20:11you see when these results come back in all right you don't have to leave me if I'm lying I'll walk
20:17myself all right but you see if I'm telling you the truth what you're gonna do what are you going
20:23to do you gonna fail okay we'll see what way by the way it's called a full house got a note from
20:30an examiner Andrew admitted kissing one woman on one occasion in October 2017 that's thank you
20:35that's what you've just seen on there yeah it was before you just know it wasn't before me
20:39since August last year apart from the one occasion you've just admitted to have you passionately
20:45kissed anyone other than Lindsay from August yeah mm-hmm you said no this test says you were lying
20:49what else did it say say she lied on every single question please just calmly it's gone go on see it
21:00right see ya no that was like yeah then I need to walk and you know what can you believe that and
21:12tell her got a kid I'm not even gonna shout my this is it's not for me to do that I there's a child
21:17here you just said for the first time in your life you told the truth completely I didn't make I
21:32didn't make a fool out of you I made a fool out of myself darling I didn't make a fool out let me
21:38finish right I made a fool out myself I answered these questions right who else is it want me to
21:43finish I answered these questions I haven't I haven't had sex with anybody since you all right
21:49I haven't right and even though it says that even though it says I have it means that you admitted
21:53to and that by the way was put in the question yeah yeah anyone else anyone else when she said
22:00when she was talking about to explain to you when she said to me when the text said I liked the taste
22:06of you last night that was because I kissed that girl but there was nothing between me and that girl
22:10other than that kiss absolutely was with me when I bought you the leads top why would I buy you a
22:15lead stop if you wasn't with me why would I give you money to go to London in August if you wasn't
22:20with me why would I take you up to London in March to go give you a birthday card which I paid for
22:28if if I if I wasn't with you seriously right you piece I like I said I have exposed myself you haven't
22:45exposed you you don't you've done a good you've you've made the whole world know what kind of
22:49person I am yeah what a snake you are and I can I say something can I say something which will
22:54probably go down like a lead balloon but I'm gonna say it you you are very erudite you you
23:01come across in a very positive way it's not for me to sit here I stand by that test absolutely it's
23:06not for me to sit here because I don't because then you've lied to her then haven't you well that's
23:10what it appears why don't you have the decency why don't you stop the BS that's coming out of your
23:14mouth and tell her the truth because as far as I'm concerned but she said to me under your breath
23:23it's the first time in my life I've told the truth about about this duplisters in the past yeah I may
23:28I listen I why didn't you say about the kiss when we first came out the taste thing why didn't you say
23:32that because you I did tell you the very first thing is this show like you can schmooze her I
23:39didn't you thought you could pass it that's what you did I thought you was gonna finger I bet you
23:43I was confident yeah but why have you failed I'm not no don't do that to me I'm confident in what the
23:49answers that I gave I was confident you don't you don't agree with that test even if you don't give
23:53you the mechanics but it will tell you about the untruths and it'll tell you about the truth
23:57exactly why don't you shut up and let me finish I don't even know who they're talking about however
24:02yeah one in London that you went down there and I give you the money to go down there there's hair then
24:07there's the most of the one in the text messages and then the one afterwards excuse me and anybody out
24:15there right please tell please if you're watching this show ring up please ring up please ring up
24:23right because I swear as true as I'm standing here today I wouldn't have come here I wouldn't have come
24:27here I I really wouldn't this isn't isn't about her your problem your dodgy ground and I have to move
24:46on in a minute is that you admitted to this kiss only when you went in the test hear me out that's I
24:53admit it to her I know about it how did she she says she knew about that kiss well how was she
24:59supposed to explain you tasted that when I tell when I she knew about that kiss yes because I told
25:04her I kissed her and it was before her my friend told me and ratted you out and that's why you don't
25:12like it because you ratted you out because you're a liar and a snake
25:16but I have made myself look a right to your team have been sat there and and and made me feel
25:29comfortable and welcome all day and I've told them the same as I'm telling you right and on my heart so
25:35what happens she's got your baby pal what happens come on this is the practicality of is now and
25:40we've got our separate ways because why would she want to have a baby with somebody who's a bit
25:46lying to a mash emotionally blackmailed can I just ask you one thing love this girl I don't want
25:50well then can I don't want can I can I just say one thing yeah absolutely take our offer of help
25:54let's take this away from the cameras just sit down she don't want it she will do right see if we can
26:00find some common ground yeah let me just try you stay there all right you just stay there one second
26:04look at me I'm in a strange position on this story I'm not I'm not I'm not into BS and if if
26:19anybody thinks they can schmooze me by look at me that's what he does he tries to manipulate and
26:24that's what he's doing to me you are better you are better than throwing a card in his face and effing
26:30and jeffing and walking off look at me I know I am as a woman but I'm as a woman who is carrying
26:36his baby as a dignified human being when this calms down I want you to take our offer I want you
26:42to sit in a room look at me yeah I want you to look at him and I want you to very calmly without
26:48shouting and screaming explain your side as he will his and whether this ends up with you finding some
26:54common ground or walking away you both have to be dignified not just for yourselves but for the sake
27:03of the kid that's what I'm saying you need to do Graham will facilitate that yes please look at me
27:11look at me he could do it again he's going to do it again to me I'm not that stupid I'm not asking
27:19to go into the meeting and say I love you I forgive you I'm asking you as a dignified human being to
27:24not leave it on throwing a card in somebody's face that's what I'm saying the question do you get a
27:30buzz out of aim people really do you I don't ever want to hurt you I've told you this before I love you
27:35so why do this then why fix me I make me look like a fool on TV seriously what did I say to you
27:41yesterday do not fix me if you know you're lying and I was confident in the answers that I gave the
27:47guy in the test no because you thought you'd get away with it like everybody else who comes on the
27:50show does I was confident in the answers I think you could pass the lie detector test when you knew
27:53full well you wasn't I was confident in the answers that I give him when I stand by the answers
27:57I don't I don't want anybody to I don't want anybody to feel that I'm cutting this short I have to
28:02finish but listen to me I want you to take up my offer with Graham just for half an hour yes yes
28:07I'm sure I'm done spend some time see if you can find some common ground thank you for coming on
28:12give them a round of applause you might remember my next guest who came here previously to find out
28:21if his wife Hayley had been cheating on him now she Hayley failed all three questions but Kev's back
28:25today on the show desperate to know whether any of these infidelities happened in the last 18 months
28:30that is an important date because that was when their youngest child was born now Kev claims his
28:34wife disappeared for an hour at a funeral only to return at the same time as another man he says
28:39that if she fails the test for a second time his bags are packed the marriage is over it's a massive
28:44day Kev's back on the car show that way
28:46listen I want to keep it as simple as possible we're going to play a clip but she came last time
28:56yeah you pass the test she failed the test a lot of people would ask this before we show the clips
29:03why isn't that enough for you to say it's over why are you giving her this second chance kids involved
29:07yeah and it's hard to break away if there's kids involved and you want to try and make it work
29:11so that's why I've come back on the show so you basically have just to be totally candid here
29:17when you came to the show last time you had admitted to her that you cheated a couple of times
29:23before the test you made some admissions yeah you passed your test she kept stum she failed her test
29:29you're saying look we've both made mistakes we set this precedent 18 months ago when we had the
29:35youngest kid that's when we need to be clean if we're clean from there we can put the rest behind
29:41us but now and I'm making it simple you have concerns yeah that she's done something in the last 18
29:48months yeah yeah that's what that is do you want to have a look back at this yeah all right this is
29:52the clips from the last time you're on the show thank you buddy I hope that made sense everybody go
29:55he was messaging a girl from bingo and he deleted the messages off Facebook next minute
30:01um but you cheated on him twice out of revenge without knowing the truth no I did know the truth
30:07then so he's admitted to cheating twice yeah I caught him fully walking down the street with the kids
30:12well picking them up from school we are Tony since the start of your relationship with Kevin apart
30:17from three people you've admitted to have you passionately kissed anyone else you're right with
30:20that yeah why did you say no country this is you're a liar love why wait till a lie detector you devious
30:28man to tell your missus that it wasn't two it was five no so by telling her it's two and changing it to
30:41five he passes every single question that is an interesting point yeah start when before we
30:49actually got to go we'll see each of like three weeks so I'll see you see enough people I'll see
30:53neutral but I also sort of begrudgingly like the fact that you said to us this morning look it came
30:58to do a test and I and I and I clean the slate before the test she had a chance to and she
31:03didn't yeah failed how am I supposed to think right let's say she comes here today and it's
31:07about the last 18 months when the kid was born what about if she fails that how how do I not know
31:12that in six weeks time you'll be back here going oh I'm going to give her another chance why is today
31:16so it's a clean clean slate so I have a make or break today if she fails again it's done it's done
31:21for God I'm walking away for goodness since the last show it hasn't been great you've been sleeping on
31:24so far horrible and in fact interestingly because I don't have a problem with you you said that when
31:29you came here that it was all about doing what's right by the kids then being in that environment
31:32with you on the sofa and you two at loggerheads ain't great so today's massively important yeah it is
31:36yeah let's get her out Hayley's back on the Jeremy car show thank you my friend that way
31:40muted applause because she felt absolutely spectacularly last time didn't you the test was
31:53right wasn't it yeah why did you do that to him because I must have got something like I must have
31:59just missed something car he knows all about it now anyway we've we've had these discussions
32:04afterwards then if you've had the discussions darling why are we back on the Jeremy car should
32:07do you want me back on to see this story about this alleged incident that he went to a funeral went
32:11to a wake and before she went to before before went to the funeral she said she's got past history
32:18someone what's there so when we got there was having a drink in the garden at the wake after the
32:22funeral she disappeared for now the same person disappeared both turned up on the front so so
32:28I confronted on front and I I just left but did I turn up on the front with him when I said oh
32:33was he at the side of me when I turned up on the front he was both turned up on the no was he at the side of me when I
32:37did I even go near him you're seeing things why back on the front you said you walk around the block
32:42because you're strong around the block that's what you said to me you walk around the block
32:45you I sort of I sort of when I read this this morning thought is she really gonna sleep with somebody to
32:49wait but you probably would wouldn't you no you cheated on him before I got more respect yeah he cheated on me
32:54had a full blown affair on me I'm not I'm not I'm not sticking up for either I'm just saying he had
33:00a fully blown affair on my behind my back and if he didn't do that I wanted on what I did to him so
33:07you did it out of revenge revenge the last case was yeah and he knows it is there any grounds I was
33:13pregnant and he carried on the relationship and he put it all behind him so some people watching this
33:19could say that the way that you are constantly watching her and constantly worrying and thinking that at
33:23the funeral hear me out right it's your just desserts for the way you treated her that's justice that's
33:28the way it is it works both ways done it I wasn't the one disappearing for two days at a time let me
33:39put it like this you talk about he said about the kids how is this environment this relationship good
33:44for your kids it's not it's not this is what he's the one that begged for me back and he's the one I was
33:51gone after the last show he's the one that wanted to come back try and make things better try and make
33:57things worse but since then all he does is talk to me like all the time arguments all time you want
34:02to try for the sake of the kids you're not even trying you're just trying to just keep tabs on me
34:06make sure I don't go out the ass no it isn't it's just a twist both ways only that's what it is you
34:11don't trust me and I don't trust you that's what it is they don't trust each other no so how can you be in a
34:17a relationship with each other at what point do you go we can keep coming back here so we can
34:22keep testing each other we can keep making our life our kids lives of misery but you know at the end
34:26of the day why don't we just say it doesn't damn work and walk in the opposite direction why don't you do
34:30that's the line if she fails today that's it I'm walking away it's done have you cheated on him in the
34:42last 18 months have you have you cheated on him in on her in the last 18 months so if you if she's
34:49cheated on you you're going home on your own yeah what about if he's cheated on you are you going home
34:53hello yeah don't I am this time and it will be this time I'm done don't bother coming back to my
34:58house so I got your taxi each just in case look no look I've got your taxi each I just thought I just
35:04thought your bags are packed you're ready so if either of you fail the other ones going off on
35:10their own that's going to cost me twice what it normally cost me into results who we starting with
35:15Hayley first do you want to go with Hayley yeah I don't mind you're going to pass yeah did you get
35:22up to no good at the funeral in the last it's about the last 18 months that's since the youngest kid
35:26was born Hayley admitted on the last show she'd had sex with an ex sex with Kev's brother you had to
35:33bring that back up well it's true and kissed a man at a pub four years ago she failed the test and
35:37has since admitted to there being a crossover with another man at the start of the relationship
35:41therefore we have tested as follows since the birth of your youngest kid have you passionately kissed
35:46anyone other than Kev that is in the last 18 months yeah this test says no why did you say no
35:51last time what it says you're lying again love doesn't it
35:54move I knew it I knew it man come on then come with me or are you going to run up where are you going
36:06come with me face the music love sick and tired about running around after you lot fight for him
36:12where is he yeah I'm sure he is where is he okay I want to give you the truth come here pal Kev come
36:19here it's not my fault mate better to know the truth failed every single question and because it was true
36:25the funeral I knew it I knew it I knew it it was at the weight I knew it 100% it was at the weight
36:32this is it 100% F questions no I never did it was with him right now wait move out my face look at me
36:42I never did dirty little rat hey you're gonna pass yeah 100% well then you can get in that cabin start
36:48of life it's no good I'm definitely gone this time on the previous show you admitted to cheating
36:56on Hayley and having sex with five different women at the start of the relationship Hayley
36:59wanted to find out any of these five were since their youngest kid was born yeah you failed every
37:04single question you smile when I read that out come on truth truth to me go I'm in your own taxi I'll
37:19pay for it something happened something happened in the last 18 months didn't it come on come on this
37:26is me yeah yeah it did yeah yeah it did because I knew she had done something so I had done something
37:30so you cheated on her in the last 18 months yes yeah yeah can somebody get her please because I'm sick
37:36and tired of running around this building I am NOT going come with me come with me come this way come
37:41this way I don't know why I did you did no no no he failed every single question and he admitted but
37:49you also failed didn't you so why don't you admit it as well I don't know why I have oh come on love
37:54I don't condone anything you damn relationships vile and wrong and I feel sorry for your kids when I'm
38:00offering you it's a chance to sit down and try and get this sorted for their sake and to move in
38:04opposite directions and not be like this together but you failed the test because you're a liar as
38:08well aren't you come on what happened there could happen at home so why don't we bring it down sit you
38:20with aftercare and then you go your separate ways but let's bring this down why don't we spend half
38:25an hour bringing this down putting you together and find a resolve when you go your separate ways
38:29at the end yes or no just do that you've got children darling yeah we have got children so
38:35what's gonna happen you cheated on him as well didn't you not tomorrow I must have done because
38:40that says I have there you go I must have done I admire your honesty you don't want to sit with
38:45aftercare I don't want to sit with no aftercare I don't want to sit next to him at all slagging me
38:49down and I think well you just want to go over than me no you're both as bad as each other but
38:54no I don't have to spend some time before you leave this studio yeah look at me whether it's
39:00separately with them as mediation you have to sit down and go through it with aftercare you'd have
39:04to be in the same room you can be in separate rooms and they can go between you but we need to deal
39:09with this off-camera do you understand yeah and I will find out at the end the decision and it'll
39:14obviously be that you go your separate ways but we'll do it calmly do that we'll find out more at the end of
39:19the show stay with Steph's in a bit there's supposed to have been a photo of me sitting in
39:23a hotel room which I didn't and there was supposed to be a sex pill I ordered online you say she
39:28used to work in a hotel I'm sure she's cheated on me there I can't stand not knowing I can't stay
39:33in the house what happens if she does fail we'll solve it if it fails 30 years gone do you know
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40:07thank you very much Eddie welcome back my next guest Lisa is here to save a 30 year relationship
40:20after her email was used to sign up to various dating sites to make things worse her email was also used
40:27to buy some mysterious blue sex pills you know the one steves which her partner Eddie is convinced
40:34she's bought Lisa admits that this is torn the relationship but and is yet approved to Eddie
40:38she's no cheat and hasn't bought any sexy blue pills please welcome Lisa to the Jeremy Kyle show that way
40:43you look terrified I am um a lot of the people that come on this show the relationship's been about
40:55five minutes this is 30 years can we talk about these emails because I know I mean Steve knows more
41:01about the little blue pills than I do but this all sounds very dumb what is this about these emails and
41:05stuff and two years ago I was at work and somebody contacted me and says that my emails had gone to their
41:12address right three emails and asked what they was asked them to screenshot it and send it through
41:20to me one was I was supposed to have joined a dating site looking for sex and fun to meet many no tell
41:27them men in hotel rooms no like I know what I'm talking about and they're supposed to have been a photo
41:32of me sitting in a hotel room which I didn't and there was supposed to be a sex pill I ordered online a
41:39sex pill what Viagra I don't know are they blue Steve he saw them Eddie I showed him yeah the irony of
41:51this whole situation is on the three occasions or two occasions this has happened you've told him
41:55the truth then you get him jiping but actually you've caught him messaging other women yeah you
42:01told my team which is really sad I feel rejected there's no love there's no care it's gone the spark
42:05and we need to get it back if you pass this lie detector will we get this back yeah will he start
42:10running away yeah are you intimate still you two we am yeah but not the same as we was he says he
42:15loves me but I don't believe it oh bless you well done for coming in darling I appreciate that
42:19my first impression of you both is you look just beaten and battered down by this whole thing you
42:38look absolutely worn down by myself I feel like myself about feeling 30 years of a relationship and
42:45you say that I mean 27 years ago she was honest with you about somebody trying on with her why
42:51do you use that to beat her over the head with I don't use it to read well read with nothing talk to
42:57her do I do have 40 talk I've always believed you 100% why why do you why do you not believe
43:03her why would she show you just answer me this why would she show you if she's trying to pull the
43:08wool over your right here they show me actually she didn't show me you say she used to work in a
43:13hotel I'm sure she's cheated on me there I can't stand not knowing I can't stay in the house is that
43:17why you disappear the whole time where'd you go because you're the one that was caught messaging
43:20moon perhaps you go and see other women oh well if you if you call it with her she was 70 years old
43:26I've got to look on as I'm afraid one was you're being clever now but why where'd you go for days
43:32where'd you go four days a week why don't you stay with your woman well I've got other houses I can go
43:37to other houses but you've been with her 30 years why don't you want to be with her
43:41because there's been that gap that puts that gap in relationship and when when we argue and
43:45you know it just gets worse and worse so I'll just leave I know that she will fail I've seen the
43:53proof with my own eyes well that's what I've seen it that's what you told my team yeah that's
43:57right that's what I've told your team I've seen the emails address on the phone so you you think
44:02she's gonna fail and what happens if she does fail 30 years gone what if she's not Eddie what if
44:09you spend all this time worrying about it and it's not true what happens then then I got a lot to
44:13make up and apologize you know how many people in this audience emails I mean I have seen these
44:18anyone else I've seen and I've that why didn't you do a test by the way oh yeah I offered I did
44:24offer I've offered that so many times yeah isn't it true that you didn't want him to do the test
44:30because that's what he told my team no I trust him the sources I'll do the test I had that our
44:35problem doing the test right or wrong you look crushed to me love like you're too scared to say
44:39anything too tired too or too scared to say anything oh she's scared to say nothing sorry
44:44she's not scared to say it's worn out mate dragged down as well I'm worn out as well it's not great is
44:50it no you're gonna pass yeah how many people in the audience think Lisa's gonna pass this test
44:56somebody thought it was a good idea to clap rather than put their hand up it's fantastic 30 years is a
45:04long time almost your age well you're right feel really sorry for you since the start of your
45:15relationship with Eddie we asked Lisa have you had sexual intercourse with anyone else you said no
45:19why'd say no 30 years of hurt she was telling the truth since the start of your relationship with
45:34Eddie have you had sexual contact with anyone else she said no because your lady of 30 years was
45:39telling the truth please she passed every single question
45:56I'd be on my knees saying sorry pal what what you say I'd be on my knees saying sorry pal
46:03and I'm sorry before my heart not to me look at her say I'm sorry to you I'm saying sorry to Lisa
46:08I love you all my heart you know that but I did see them in my horse and I don't know who's
46:12stop going on about it because it's not true well don't shout out to me so thick either I've seen the
46:17emails yeah the emails are nothing she didn't do it get on your knees and say story and stop bitching at
46:23come on look at what she's had to go through oh me me me you're the one that was called messaging
46:35women 70 years old on the frame just tried to boost her up she's passed the test man yes she's
46:41passed the test mate and all I'm saying is if you don't forgive and forget whether you like this
46:53or not or you don't think that it's true one day Lisa might just go do you know what I deserve more
46:58than this in my life and I think it's time that you start treating her better that's all I'm saying
47:01Lisa I'm gonna work with you okay can I ask the team to help with some confidence stuff as well
47:11just love her just trust each other go that way give them a round of applause
47:14right good luck to them now before I finish today you'll have seen earlier in the show that
47:27explosive part with Kevin and Hayley both failing the lie detector both rushing off in separate
47:33directions the most important thing for this show is to bring it down emotionally and also
47:38they have a young family Graham earlier on we were you know there were taxes and all sorts of
47:45protestations but this is about calming this situation what's been yeah it's about getting
47:49emotional containment uh they're both in separate rooms and they're speaking to the
47:53councillors right now but they'll be they won't be traveling together right now and should they travel
47:59separately again it's all about them being emotionally contained before they leave the studio and I think
48:04it's a really important point to make we've done this show for a long time it is very raw it's a
48:08journey sometimes people get very angry sometimes people get very upset I think it's important to
48:11serve the people out there who would watch something like that look we don't just do the part and wash
48:16our hands it doesn't matter how long it will take today these people will get the care and the help
48:20they need to bring it down because at the end of the day it's about the kids right we have a duty of
48:24care to the contributors that come on the show and that will be provided for them today all right
48:29fantastic thank you listen I am for this morning out of time keep watching we'll see very soon take care
48:33thanks
48:35applause