The Jeremy Kyle Show 5th March 2018
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00:10On today's show, this woman is back today
00:13to prove once and for all to the world
00:16I didn't use a chocolate wrapper as a method of contraception.
00:19He's rubbish at everything, being a partner, in bed.
00:23I've been getting that heckled down the street
00:25even when I've got, like, the kids and everything.
00:27I made you! I made you!
00:38You ever, ever badmouthed my mum and dad again
00:41and I swear to God...
00:42Oh, that's a bit funny, isn't it?
00:43You're disgusting!
00:44You're disgusting! You don't know anything!
00:47That is supposed to be your dad, get a bit of respect.
00:51You've not sent us a birthday card, a Christmas card!
00:57CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
01:15Good morning and a big, big welcome to the show.
01:17Hello, my friends, good morning and a big, big welcome to the show.
01:21Right, my first guest today, Jo, is here after a shocking allegation
01:25made by her ex, Mark, on her last appearance on The Jeremy Carr Show.
01:29Let me tell you, this went viral.
01:31Take a look at this, my friends.
01:34Anyone like Toffee Crisps?
01:37Me.
01:38You're going to know how you're going to like them now.
01:40Why?
01:40Because she had sex with someone who wore a Toffee Crisps wrapper as a Johnny.
01:47LAUGHTER
01:48LAUGHTER
01:50LAUGHTER
01:52LAUGHTER
01:53Whatever. Get rid of the screen.
01:57LAUGHTER
01:58Actually, that wasn't me.
02:00Yes, it was.
02:01LAUGHTER
02:02I can't quite believe I'm going to say this,
02:07but this woman is back today.
02:10Because of the... I mean, everybody's been talking about this.
02:13It's gone viral to prove once and for all to the world.
02:16I can't believe I...
02:16Mum, God bless you, I can't believe I'm saying this.
02:18This girl's on the show to say,
02:20I didn't use a chocolate wrapper as a method of contraception.
02:23I've been heckled in the street.
02:24I want everyone to know I wouldn't do that.
02:27He's a liar.
02:28Jo's back on The Jeremy Carr Show.
02:30CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
02:31How are you?
02:39I'm good. Yourself?
02:40Yes.
02:40Erm...
02:41Erm...
02:42Erm...
02:43Erm...
02:44Are you still with Mark?
02:46No, I'm not.
02:46No.
02:47You say, this has caused me hell.
02:49On the last show, on a serious note, which is why you wanted to come back today,
02:51he made this accusation, which, which, I mean, I don't even know what going viral means,
02:56but I mean, everybody was talking about it.
02:58Yeah, they were.
02:58Erm...
02:59Millions of hits, whatever that means.
03:01Erm...
03:02People poking each other, all sorts of things, blocking, be quiet.
03:05On a serious, on a serious note, shut up, on a serious note, for you, difficult, right?
03:10Yeah, it's been a bit difficult.
03:11How bad?
03:12Well, I've been getting, like, heckled down the street, even when I've got, like, the kids
03:14and everything, and it's just, like, obviously, my young, like, eldest...
03:17You say it's him all over.
03:19Such an appalling boyfriend was he that I've become a lesbian.
03:22Yes.
03:23How good's that?
03:24Really?
03:25Really?
03:26I made you!
03:27I made you!
03:29Oh!
03:30What do you look, Lloyd?
03:32You don't need to swear, she said she was that rubbish in bed.
03:35She's become a lesbian.
03:36That's what you said.
03:37I've learned to you, an internet sensation went all the way round the world to the moon!
03:42APPLAUSE
03:43Oh, you do make me laugh.
03:53Shut up!
03:54Why...
03:55Why did you leave him?
03:56You said he wasn't very good at anything, really.
03:57No, he really wasn't.
03:58What do you mean?
03:59Well, it was just anything, really.
04:01It wasn't actually, like, the best boyfriend, really, or...
04:04LAUGHTER
04:07You said physically he was rubbish.
04:09What do you mean by that?
04:10Your chance?
04:11Well, it's just more along the lines of he's just, like, rubbish at everything.
04:14Just, like, being a partner, in bed.
04:16No good in bed?
04:17No.
04:18Anyway, no, you're a lesbian.
04:19Yes.
04:20But...
04:21Why...
04:22Literally, this man put you off?
04:24He did.
04:25He put me off men for life.
04:26So, today, you will prove that you didn't use a chocolate wrapper as a condom,
04:29because this man has humiliated you.
04:30Yes, he has.
04:31I can't believe I'm saying this.
04:32Philip and Ollie are warming up for a deeply meaningful interview here.
04:35This man made an accusation that you'd done this.
04:37You came on this show to prove that you haven't.
04:38He's...
04:39I think he's still in...
04:40I think he's still in love with you.
04:41He's still in love with me.
04:42Do you think so?
04:43I do.
04:44Yeah.
04:45Marks on the Jeremy Carl show, that way!
04:47CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
04:52Hey-ho!
04:56Hey-ho!
04:57Hey-ho!
04:58I'm going to put it for you!
05:00You're a little little girl, sir!
05:02Why come in handy?
05:03Hang on a minute.
05:04Why have you got one?
05:05Do you like using them, then?
05:06No, you do!
05:07As if I do?
05:08Seriously, honestly, seriously...
05:10Maybe I'm more!
05:11Maybe I should have bought a f*** with me!
05:12No, I'll shut up for them, thanks.
05:14Why are you making this accusation?
05:16She says you made it up!
05:17F***!
05:18And a very good morning to you, too.
05:23As if it is actually true, Mark.
05:25Come on.
05:26Then why does the whole world believe in me and not you?
05:29Because people like to believe rumours, don't they?
05:32CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
05:34Isn't that true?
05:35Hey!
05:36Isn't the truth that you can't bear the fact
05:39she doesn't want to be with you anymore?
05:40No!
05:41You're still in love with her and she's actually...
05:42I'm actually with someone!
05:43Oh, good.
05:44I've found someone!
05:45Oh, have you?
05:46Better than that f*** tramp!
05:47Oh, really?
05:48It's not very nice, is it?
05:50Someone who goes...
05:51How does it sit...
05:52How does it sit...
05:53How does it sit...
05:54Hello?
05:55How does it sit with you that she'd prefer to be with a woman than you?
05:57I'd rather...
05:58Exactly!
05:59You've got nothing to say!
06:00I'm not being funny, but...
06:01I don't give a f***!
06:02You can be with whoever you want to be!
06:03Well, you obviously...
06:04Obviously you do, cos you're here!
06:05I'm not f***ing jealous over you and your new girlfriend
06:07that's backstage!
06:08With your boys!
06:09But I adored and I've done everything for!
06:10You sound very jealous to me!
06:11I haven't got a girlfriend at all!
06:12Yeah, alright then, so why is she backstage with your boys then?
06:13She's not backstage!
06:14No!
06:15Really?
06:16You lied!
06:17What is your problem?
06:18Why don't you just let her get on with her life then?
06:19I didn't...
06:20I thought...
06:25Did you make that up?
06:26No!
06:27How do you know she used that chocolate bar wrapper thing?
06:38It's been going around plus she only said it for a job.
06:42She only said it for a joke. What shit joke do you got around saying that for?
06:46Why are you here today?
06:47Your life is going to be a much more of a living hell after today.
06:52Why are you making threats? Hold on a second. Why are you making threats to a woman who say you don't give a damn about?
06:59I ain't threatening her.
07:00Oh, she just did.
07:01I'm not threatening her, but she's going to bring my family.
07:05You're giving the impression that you're a jealous, bitter man who can't handle the fish you are.
07:08No, I'm not. I'm not.
07:09I'm not.
07:11...I'm not.
07:12...I'm not.
07:13...I'll do an impression.
07:14I don't like you.
07:15It's all go backstage.
07:17We can't bring it back to you kids.
07:19Kids are out loud.
07:20I'm not jealous.
07:21I've got everything famous.
07:22It's written all on your damn face saying you're jealous.
07:25Do you think you're jealous?
07:26Does he look jealous?
07:27Yes.
07:28I'll treat you like Rosalove.
07:31Do you think you're still in love with her?
07:33Yes.
07:34Do you think she's better off with a woman?
07:36Yes.
07:37Do you think she used a chocolate wrapper as a condom?
07:40We'll find out after the break right back!
07:43We asked you, did you use a chocolate wrapper as a condom?
07:47Because you were accused of that hadn't you?
07:50You said no, why did you say no?
07:59Are you being trolled online?
08:01Perhaps you're being accused of something you haven't done.
08:04Maybe you're a victim of revenge porn.
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08:33Thank you very much, Ian. Welcome back.
08:35Before the break, we were talking to exes Joe and Mark.
08:38Joe made internet history one on the last show.
08:41He accused, you accused her of using a chocolate wrapper.
08:44Do you want to, have you still got the chocolate wrapper?
08:46No, she has.
08:47Yes.
08:48You said she used that for a condom.
08:49She subsequently said you were used to some beds,
08:51an awful boyfriend and I've become a lesbian.
08:54You've come out here today looking very bitter and twisted and saying,
08:56I've got my new girlfriend and you won't see the kids forever.
08:59I'm sorry.
09:00And why are you staring her out?
09:01I'm seeing you.
09:02I've got something to say.
09:03Why are you staring at her like that?
09:05I'm not.
09:06I'm obviously that pretty, aren't I?
09:09No.
09:10You're not actually.
09:11You're ugly.
09:12Have you looked in the mirror?
09:16Sorry?
09:17I can't repeat myself.
09:18I know.
09:19I'm ugly.
09:20I'm 52.
09:21I was thinking, right, so there are moments over the last 13 years when I thought we
09:26couldn't possibly go any lower.
09:27Yeah.
09:28My favourite being, did you poo in the fridge?
09:29Do you remember that?
09:30But this is an all-time favourite.
09:31I'll prove I didn't use a chocolate wrapper as a condom.
09:33Lie detector results.
09:34Isn't that just lovely?
09:35You did imply that you would have used it.
09:36Come on, mate.
09:37You made this up, didn't you?
09:38Now I'm being scared.
09:39Why are you staring at me?
09:40I was told.
09:41I was told.
09:42Why are you staring at me?
09:43I was told.
09:44I was told.
09:45So why actually continue again?
09:46Have you got good news?
09:47I was told.
09:48I was told.
09:49I was told.
09:50I was told.
09:51I was told.
09:52I was told.
09:53I was told.
09:54I was told.
09:55I was told.
09:56I was told.
09:57I was told.
09:58I was told.
09:59So why actually continue again?
10:00Have you got a girlfriend?
10:01Yeah.
10:02Are you happy?
10:03Yeah.
10:04Brilliant.
10:05Why are you...
10:06I was more happy than I am now than I was with that thing there.
10:09Well, I'm happy.
10:10Well, then why are you so angry about her, then?
10:13Come on, then.
10:14I want to know.
10:15Just get on with it.
10:17Are you telling me what to do?
10:18It's called the Jeremy Cole show.
10:19I didn't really know.
10:20I just want to get reminded.
10:25Get jobs.
10:32Right.
10:33So we asked you, did you...
10:36We asked you, did you use a chocolate wrapper as a condom?
10:42Because you'd accused her of that, hadn't you?
10:44You said no.
10:45Why did you say no?
10:46She was telling the truth.
10:47You're in the truth!
11:01I'm very nice to meet you.
11:02The thing is, though, the whole of the UK, America and California, believe me...
11:06...not you.
11:08We have to go!
11:10We have to go!
11:12We have to go!
11:14Sorry!
11:16Sorry!
11:18Can I just point out?
11:20You know you said the island of England
11:22California and Australia
11:24Hello, hello, hello
11:26Hello, hello, hello
11:28England's a country, America's a country, Australia's a country
11:30The whole universe
11:32California's in America, you don't know
11:34The whole universe believed me over you
11:36No, they didn't
11:38Yes, they did!
11:4077,000 views on YouTube, they believed me over you
11:42How many?
11:44How many?
11:4677,000 views on YouTube believed me over you
11:48Your ego's taken a right round in
11:52I have been happier now than I ever have been
11:54Well, why don't you go back to her and stop shouting at her then
11:58Hey, why don't you?
12:00Believe me, I'm
12:02Hey, why don't you get out of the building?
12:04Goodbye, you're alright
12:06So you didn't use a child? No
12:08Listen, thank you, I didn't think we'd ever do a story like that
12:10But give her a round of applause
12:12Thank you, my darling
12:14Thank you
12:16Well, that's a good one
12:18The next guest this morning, Abby is here to confront her nightmare brother Richard for sending online abuse to both her and their father Paul
12:24Abby says she's fed up of Richard claiming that Paul is a bad dad when she's experienced first hand just how amazing he is
12:30She says I want an apology for the way Richard has treated us all before we disappear and throw him out of our lives
12:36Because this man is not treating us correctly
12:38Abby is on the Jeremy Kyle show that way
12:40Give her a round of applause
12:42Thank you
12:46You alright?
12:48Yeah, I'm really
12:49Yeah, I'm alright
12:50Slightly scary look
12:52Welcome to the show, how old are you?
12:5320
12:5420 years of age
12:55Now, Paul's your dad
12:57Yeah
12:58Richard's your half-brother because you share the same dad
13:00Yeah
13:01You're here today, you say
13:02My brother
13:03The one he's sorted is a tramp
13:05I hate him
13:06What do you mean he's a tramp?
13:08Don't I'm shaking
13:09He's got dirty teeth, he stinks
13:13He's sorted his life out, he's never worked
13:15And then he's asking my dad for money
13:19That's his
13:20I've got screenshots
13:22Fat
13:23Fat
13:24Fat
13:25Fat
13:26Who's that?
13:27Look at her
13:28Look at her
13:29Fat
13:30Fat
13:31He's a fat piss
13:32He's a fat piss
13:33What can they say of you?
13:35Sorry for my language
13:36Just welcome
13:37You've just tuned in
13:38Welcome to the Jeremy Cowell Show
13:39Are you?
13:40By only chance he's out one of your shirts
13:42What?
13:43He's never looked that smart
13:44Quick question
13:45Why have you done a lie detector?
13:47Apparently I slept with my partner on the sofa
13:49While I was there
13:51Well apparently she says it's a bit rich you calling them dirty disgusting honorable tramps
13:56Because you went to stay there once
13:57And she had to go to the hospital because she was heavily pregnant and suffering problems
14:00And when they came back because you are so vile
14:03The house was trashed
14:04No
14:05There were, well this is, I'm just, I'm just repeating this
14:07I don't quite know how I'm going to put this in early morning speak
14:09But as a result of physical activity between you and your boyfriend
14:14Their very nice sofa was, er, was marked
14:18It wasn't nice in the first place
14:20Sorry?
14:21Her sofa wasn't nice in the first place
14:23I wouldn't even want to sleep with my boyfriend on it
14:25I always think it's quite weird when people say I slept with somebody
14:28Because you don't actually sleep, you stay awake, don't you?
14:29Yeah, exactly
14:30Do you know what I mean?
14:31Yeah, anyway, er, so you're going to pass that
14:32Yeah
14:33You're here today, he's, he's abusing your father online isn't he?
14:35Yeah
14:36A lot
14:37And demanding money
14:38Yep
14:39A grandchild that is never seen
14:40What does that mean?
14:42What does that mean?
14:43But it's alright for you to ask for money for her
14:46And he can't
14:47Yes, you've been asking us
14:48To go visit people you want to see
14:51Why are you it?
14:53I want them to leave us alone
14:55Stop putting stuff on social media
14:56And leave my mum and dad alone
14:58Oh, stuff it
14:59Lisa's on the Jeremy Kyle show that way
15:01No!
15:02Stop putting you in
15:07Be an adult
15:08Be an adult
15:09Be an adult
15:10Sit down
15:11Be an adult
15:12Sit down
15:13Be an adult
15:14Sit down
15:15Be an adult
15:16Be an adult
15:17Be an adult
15:18Be an adult
15:19Be an adult
15:20Arn't to be propping you tramps
15:21So are you
15:22Go
15:23It's not going very well, is it?
15:25Er, welcome to the show
15:26Er, so what's the story
15:27You're, you're at, you're going out with Richard
15:29Richard's her brother
15:30Brother well half-brother this yet. She's not looking at you the very nice look at the look on it
15:35I'm not looking at her cuz she's a waste of space. What do you mean? She's a waste of space
15:38She is waste of space. She's at my house like a hotel. She's saying we'll be calling
15:43Why was I at your house Lisa? Why was I at your house? Don't mention my children
15:47Why was I at your house?
15:50Why was I at your house?
15:52Why was I at your house?
15:53You don't need to know. Why were you at the house?
15:55Because you asked me to come down for when Rebecca was born. I'm a writer, I'm a rock
15:58Yes, you were
16:00Don't go
16:02I didn't have to use your house
16:04Your house has come down so you did
16:06And you ever ever bad-masked my mum and dad again and I swear to god
16:11Oh that's a bit funny, isn't it?
16:12You're disgusting
16:14You're disgusting
16:16You don't know anything but my house
16:18I'm telling you something, I know you probably don't like this but this is called the Jeremy Karshel
16:21So do one until I ask you
16:23Why was she at your house?
16:29Because we're under social services
16:33Why would that be? Because of your lifestyle?
16:35No, not because of my lifestyle
16:37No, not because of my lifestyle it's because of his background
16:39Nothing to do with me
16:41I'm better clean than you
16:43I have social services reports
16:45Whatever
16:47She was living in a house that had no gas, no heating, no hot water
16:51Might as well have lived in a tent
16:53So we couldn't live there so we got moved out there and moved into where we are now
16:57What's your problem with her? She came and helped you, why are you having a go at her fault?
17:01And then she was fine at first we got on fine
17:03But then
17:04I'm delighted to hear it
17:05A couple of days I started having severe stomach cramps
17:07You what?
17:08Severe stomach cramps
17:09Because I was carrying
17:10Is that her fault?
17:11No, no
17:12Why are we bringing that up then?
17:13Because I was coming near to giving birth
17:14Oh, you had to go to the hospital didn't you?
17:16Yeah, just to check
17:17Yeah
17:18Then she was supposed to have met us at the hospital
17:21Yes
17:22Just to take us back to the house
17:23But we waited two hours
17:24She didn't show
17:25We were getting messages saying she's gone back home not feeling well
17:26What happened when you got home?
17:27It's cut to the chase
17:28Well I got home
17:29Obviously
17:30What happened when you got home?
17:31There was plates on my living room side
17:33With fag butts on them
17:35Upstairs bedroom was disgusting
17:37With bottles and crisps all over my floor
17:39My sheets were dirty
17:40What do you mean your sheets were dirty?
17:41You had your own stuff
17:43I doubt that very much darling
17:45You had your own stuff
17:46You made an accusation that they'd had sex on your sofa
17:49How do you know that?
17:50I had my gloves as well
17:51There were stains on that bed
17:54I had to physically wear gloves to move it off to put it in the wash
17:57You what?
17:58I had to wear rubber gloves
18:01I did
18:02Because I wasn't going to touch
18:03I wasn't going to catch anything
18:05Did you have sex on her bed?
18:06No, no, no
18:07I have a condition
18:08And when I've got it
18:09Nobody can put me down in my personal things
18:12Why would he want to touch you?
18:13So how can I have sex?
18:15Yeah, whatever
18:16Explain that to me
18:17You've got a condition
18:18Why would I want to have sex on your sofa?
18:19Well
18:20You sleep around anyway
18:22You take drugs
18:23What are you saying?
18:24She sleeps around
18:25Do you sleep around?
18:26No
18:27I've been with the same guy for nearly two years
18:29Yeah, he's only with you to feel safe
18:30Why is she saying that then?
18:31Why are you both sitting there huffing and puffing?
18:33I don't quite understand what we're doing here
18:35Deluded
18:36You're here to protect your dad, aren't you?
18:38My dad and my mum are not very well
18:40They are very ill
18:42Especially my mum
18:43Yeah
18:44And they put on Facebook
18:45It's disgusting
18:46Why do you put that on?
18:47I've not put nothing on Facebook
18:48She's going to say I blocked you in a minute
18:50I've not put nothing on Facebook about your mum and dad
18:52Because at the end of the day
18:53It's not doing me
18:54Your mum and dad
18:55So why are you here then?
18:56Go
18:57You've never met my dad
18:58Why should I not want to meet your dad?
19:00No
19:01Why should I not want to meet your dad?
19:02No
19:03I'm here to defend him
19:04No
19:05But you've never met my father
19:06Why should I love my father?
19:07You've never met my father and my father
19:08He's a what?
19:09He's a veto
19:10He's a veto
19:11Where's the f***ing police reports?
19:12Who did he beat then?
19:14Rich's mum
19:15When he was four years old
19:16No
19:17And he's denying the whole thing
19:18Ah, that's why Rich doesn't like him
19:20And that's why you're defending your dad
19:21Well guess what you're about to meet him
19:22He's here after the break
19:23Don't go anywhere
19:24We're right back
19:25That is supposed to be your dad
19:27Get a bit of sped
19:28You told my team
19:29He doesn't even deserve the title dad
19:32You've not sent us a birthday card
19:34A Christmas card
19:35Go on, look at him
19:36He's an embarrassment to you, isn't he?
19:38All I want to do
19:39Is just I want to know that my dad lost me
19:55It's all kicking off security
20:00It's all kicking off security
20:08This test is you're a liar, love
20:10This isn't about you
20:12This is about your children
20:14Oh, here we go
20:15We're kind of in peace
20:16Okay, more happiness up
20:18I'm not a baby
20:19No
20:21Oh, get off
20:22No!
20:23No!
20:24No!
20:25No, no, no
20:26No, no
20:27My baby
20:28No
20:29Oh my lord
20:31We need Felix Scopes who has to put up with this
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21:00for the break abby and lisa see your hip supporting your dad you say you've never met him but you've
21:13called him on national television a wife-beater polls on the jeremy car show that way
21:17well that was you i'm richard
21:27why are you here you don't know me in my family from adam so why are you here are you a wife
21:33beater no certainly not jeremy why you should well come on then talk to me it's all lies all three
21:40of your four of your kids witnessed you do it so why would they lie once a young kid why would
21:46lie about that you were drunk when you did it just a minute what what i reported and arrested
21:52well then i'm saying that that's what i've been told exactly you've been told if you got proof
21:58but you need to listen you're saying to my team that you've never seen this granddaughter how old is
22:04she's 12 she's a year in april why why why is he banned because you believe he's violent right talk
22:10to me i don't really matter jeremy this is this is the first time in my life i've seen her
22:15surely his daughter who lives with him that's your granddaughter yeah that's rebecca yeah
22:32that's rebecca yeah that's her yeah why are you stopping him from seeing her please can you help me out
22:38she's a horrible person who told you that you know what it happened
22:42well then why are you asking for money often then i will not
22:45your boyfriend
22:46no she's no 30 pounds
22:48no i've got listeners if i'm allowed my phone let's get the person in the middle out
22:54your brother richard's on the jeremy karl show give him a round of applause
22:57why not me that's done this you brought us on here because i'm sick of your
23:10what to be my brother and that is supposed to be your dad get a bit of respect
23:14i work i earn my money where do you go doll yeah what is this all about truthfully your
23:31girlfriend's out here crying i know um jeremy i don't know basically it all started off was
23:37um did your father abuse your mother well yes or no yes you saw that did you all four we got a
23:44statement from sue that's your mother she says that when paul and i split up he would come down
23:48and see the kids at no point did i ever stop him doing so i was married to paul for 11 years
23:52when we were together he was at the pub every single night and i used to work to feed the
23:56children paul has been violent to me in the past he's a vile and nasty man that's your mother
24:01your answer to that total untrue jeremy why do you ever say well why are you two not talking to each
24:07other that's your dad so i'm gonna put the f*** off him
24:10i never wants my dad when he wants money why do you take money off when i've got a dad like i said
24:14you've got things going why would you take money off a guy you describe as vile and nasty and won't
24:19let him see your kid i'm not i'm not asking you're ringing when you're depressed i'm not asking you
24:23asked me back in october you asked me back in october that i've got saying can you lend me 20 pounds
24:28because i need to go to the hospital to see my mum yeah to see my disabled lover that you're taking the
24:33money but why are you asking me for money sorry can we not go around and we're going around in circles
24:38sex on the sofa for the mother it's about you and your dad what's your problem with your dad
24:42i haven't i've said i haven't got a problem with my dad it's her why me what because i've been
24:48putting on facebook because he doesn't let it be you need to go to the floor i've never abused
24:52anybody and then you're accusing us saying that we're saying that my dad was a kidly fiddler
24:56we've not once said that you can't say things like that it wasn't us it was a friend of ours
25:01on facebook who said it who was it i can't say no name you told my team he doesn't even deserve
25:06the title dad and yet you sit on this stage saying you haven't got a problem with him i feel for the
25:12people that put this show together because what are you supposed to think when you say one thing no
25:17that's what you said you said he whacked you with a belt buckle you said you saw him beat your mother
25:22and yet you sit there a man you say was never there for me emotionally he was no support you
25:28go i haven't got a problem with my dad well how the hell am i supposed to know what to do i was
25:32trying to i was trying to sort it out with my dad as far when was the last time you had contact
25:37with your dad um it was eight years ago eight years ago and you're sat here saying we have been on
25:42facebook video calling god i hate facebook um we was on video video i don't care what is this all
25:48about she's defending her dad your girlfriend's defending you everybody's getting involved
25:54what is this about that's what we need rich this is you and him this is you know i've i've been
26:00trying to sort it out on my dad through video calls well try now forgetting video calls he's in their
26:04room but then abigail's getting involved in butting her nosing and you do not say disgusting things
26:09about my dad like that no you don't say stuff like that about your dad if you care about your dad you
26:13wouldn't do that and you would definitely not let her slag him off either that's exactly what i'm saying
26:19you're jealous of mine yes he is because you've been there for her you haven't been there for him
26:25you can't stand it oi oi so why don't you make that better rather than throwing you in his face
26:41what you just said is the root cause of the problem i completely agree what i can't understand is
26:51how come you've been there for them there you are and we've not been there do you know how much you've
26:55come on abby shut up let him speak you've got to answer that you've not sent us a birthday card a christmas card
27:03have i one of you lost for the past 25 years you're the adult i've been trying to sort it out
27:10no it's not about her it's about him
27:12i've been trying to sort it out with you and all i'm getting from you is oh where's my birthday card
27:20that's all i wanted from you but i never have i ever had any because you've got then you've always
27:27said you said to me once you said to me you said i'm happy with my wife and my other kids i don't
27:33need you in my life when have i said that you told me that when have i said that my mum saw it on
27:37facebook facebook again yeah can i ask you a question because you patently don't want to answer the
27:43truth question which is what this story is about whether or not he's behaved badly for attention
27:50whether or not his house isn't great or you don't like his girlfriend the truth is there in shut up
27:56okay because therein has the moment this girl has had you all her life and naturally is defending you
28:02because she knows you as a man who's always been there this guy for whatever reason you have not
28:06been in his life as you were in hers and he is basically jealous okay that is what we're talking
28:11about and you sit there and you go well i didn't get any birthday cards you're the adult i know
28:16you're the dad and you could have done more for him couldn't you
28:19why don't you tell him
28:23why don't you tell your daughter out the back it's not all about her because these two women
28:32are peripheral abby will have a relationship with you which is her business but you and him
28:37that's what this is about and you should apologize oh here she comes gonna come out now look i'm not
28:42going to make it all about her i'm not putting stuff on facebook then and then abby it's not about
28:46you on facebook it's about the two of them abs it's about my father that i've got respect for
28:50he's also his father yeah but it's his father when it suits him i accept that but he's scoring points
28:56mate abby can i ask you a question would you be defending your father as much if you hadn't seen
29:04him in eight years if for example hear me out probably not but at least respect him yes but
29:09you're not going to respect what you haven't had or something that doesn't treat you the same way
29:13he's jealous he lashes out he behaves inappropriately or says and does wrong things because he's desperate
29:19for this man's attention and he sits there and he won't give it to him it's about your dad
29:23look at him why can't you say that to your kid he does give it you i'm not asking you i asked your
29:29dad he doesn't he doesn't i'm always there for you you're not if you were there for me all the time
29:35then i'll come right i said to you fair enough i was going to come down didn't i say i was going to
29:39come down with rebecca yeah so she can see you as a grandad yes right i said to you i'll see if i
29:45could get down i tried getting a train down it was too expensive i was getting a friend to take me
29:49down i couldn't get down the minute i told you that you blocked me on facebook if a guy can i ask you a
29:56question but why didn't you just talk to me say look if your son is struggling because we know he's
30:01struggling isn't the onus on you as the adult the father slash grandfather instead of putting all
30:07your eggs into one basket i've heard this story so many times where you know you're happy in your
30:11new family he's a pain in the backside he's an embarrassment i'll just cut him off why don't you get
30:15off your backside and go and see your son and your granddaughter why don't you do that
30:19my wife was seriously ill last year she had a quadruple heart bypass nearly died in the hospital
30:32and i'm a full-time carer it's very easy 24 7 i can tell you this right it's very easy to play happy
30:38families you're in a new relationship and forget about everything else that's why i have my kids six
30:42months a year i wouldn't be with anybody who didn't expect me to be a father to those four
30:46children i don't think you've been a father to this bloke as much as you have for abby abby you're
30:52right of course he slags him off and asks for money because it's an attention seeking device
30:56don't show your head abs because i asked you right if you were him you'd be doing exactly the same yes
31:01he's scruffy yes he hasn't got probably as much ambition or hasn't done as much as he should have but
31:06he's crying out you know my friend for his dad yes your wife needs your care yes your daughter
31:11needs your love so does your son your son needs a role model your son needs somebody to look up to
31:16that's what i think
31:17the thing is jeremy if i've met bill bridges with him a relationship you were a drinker weren't you
31:35i was yeah and you did beat the wife no i didn't no i didn't you did i did not okay so you were at the
31:40pub every single night so you're not the archangel gabriel are you oh no nobody's a saint so where's
31:44your conscience that says my son is struggling my son is not in the great place yes abby your
31:50relationship with him is great and your other kids but this kid has missed out where's the where's
31:55the soul where's the humility that says that as a father i should try and do whatever rather than
32:00lashing out and saying your girlfriend's this your life is that maybe it's true but he's your son
32:06he's your blood i know he is then you owe him
32:08why do you why do you say that i'm gonna do this lie detector which i think is ridiculous because
32:17this just about sums up and i'm not being disrespectful but this sums up what everybody's
32:22done which is skirt around the main issue here because it doesn't matter this was the accusation
32:26that uh you trashed uh their house when you went to stay had sex on the sofa oh lovely did you have
32:33sexual intercourse with anyone lisa's sofa when you stayed at her house last year abby said no abby
32:37was telling the truth
32:45did we really ask you this did you perform a sex act with anyone on lisa's sofa when you stayed at her
32:49house last year no she was telling the truth on both questions
32:55i can't do this so say sorry can you do me a favor you need to say sorry i'm not apologizing
33:01no no until she apologizes to me for calling me a talk no thank you go and salt love because
33:07we're not you're as bad as our love stop sulking you sit there abby i appreciate you coming on give
33:12a round of applause sit there oh sit there
33:16now we'll get me i've got an empty from the music and that's your son i know it is well start
33:22treating him like your son i'm not listen you're getting me wrong and and you will help me and
33:27help the situation you have been a pain in the backside haven't you all his life
33:33but but if my son was sat there and he was on his uppers or he was having a hard time whatever i
33:39had or didn't have i wouldn't glorify him saying he's always been a pain
33:43you need to look look at me one sec right have you done enough for him rich no i haven't
33:49no i admit that why don't you start that i'm not the opening gambit i'm not a perfect father
33:55no but you've done enough for abby how do you look yourself in the mirror i do the same for all of
33:59my four kids i know yeah one's married the other three are with their mother but i do everything for
34:05those four kids how would i feel if i only did it for three of them but that's ridiculous i've always
34:11been the same if i can't treat one but you haven't done anything for him you've just admitted that
34:16they move around the country oh come on rich you're more you're better than this which is why i'm at
34:21you you could have done more that doesn't justify some of what he's done but it explains where he's
34:27coming from doesn't it rich he feels like you don't love him i'll have all mickers jeremy when did you
34:33last tell him paul when did you last tell him that you loved him when did you last put him in front of
34:37one of the girls go on look at him he's an embarrassment to you isn't he just to make my
34:42embarrassment no all i want to do it's just i want to know that my dad loves me so why was it on
34:50facebook that you don't care if i drop dead because people say things to get a reaction listen to me
34:55listen to me the reason why i said what was because happy was texting me bad things saying that i've got
35:01my dad i've got oh that's all i want do you know how much that makes me feel i could imagine yeah
35:11but you go on and on about facebook it seems like you're sticking up happy you don't say to
35:15abby oh stop with his taxes but she's an adult i can't make her stop doing things so you're an adult
35:21and i don't think if you are all i wanted to do dad was give you be in a relationship with you so
35:26can do that bond we had it years ago when you was a baby see see see see here's the thing here's the
35:33thing any relationships are two-way street you'll say they say horrible things on facebook they won't
35:39let me see the kid he'll say i feel ostracized my sisters and everybody else gets more love than me
35:44do you not want him in your life if you don't want me you'd love to do you not want him in your
35:48life what's going on no i don't jeremy i'm sorry but i don't you don't want me in your life
35:58it's gone too far jeremy i'm sorry but because if we we start having a relationship again now
36:04within a couple of months we'll be back to square one with him putting things on social media and
36:10telling lies how old are you 63 this year i promise you one thing that will happen to you not today
36:17not tomorrow but one day you'll be sat somewhere on your own when either your wife has passed on or
36:23your kids who have moved on and aren't as dependent and you'll regret what you just said but you won't
36:28think that now you go back into the bosom of your family if i was a father and i was looking at that
36:34screen i would move heaven and earth to make his life better and shame him you do exactly what you want
36:46i'm not even going to shout you go and do exactly what you want because in the end you will be a sad
36:51lonely bitter old man can i say something um i didn't go how i thought it was going to go look
37:05at me it's very easy in a society that we live in to judge people for the wrong reasons
37:12what i want us to do is show you that you've got a girlfriend and a life and that you don't need
37:17such negativity i've got my beautiful kids to think about that's all i need in my life look at me
37:21and shall i tell you what you need to do and despite the problems you've had and the difficulties you
37:25face i know that you'll probably be a far better dad than he's ever been i will be i've i've i'm
37:30always falling down for myself i'm sorry you're going to be ugly but listen you get nothing from
37:38you know she was stood there in the archery saying come on daddy they'll be fine
37:42he will regret what he just said but you know from my point of view in terms of dignity you
37:46would be far better off not retaliating on facebook or saying or doing things well work
37:51with us get strong bring up your kid love your lady sodom is basically what i'm saying
37:56that's what that's basically what i'm saying definitely right and like i said you know my
38:00liberation is everything to me do you know what i mean and i've got this other one and the way i'm
38:04just going to be focusing on them now they don't think to me and then they've got my family i've got
38:08me i'll finish by saying this you're a better man than him look after him g thanks very much
38:12thank you very much bring me when you're on your own we can have some more fun there's never been
38:20any doubt until i got this who was it i don't know it's got to be somebody because it says on that it
38:27says on that a pacific date
38:39thank you very much welcome back my next guest this morning adam is here to find out if his wife ruth
38:43has been having a secret affair he says he's never had any he says he's never that's ruth he said he's
38:51never had any doubts about his wife's loyalty before but just a few days ago when they returned
38:54home they found a valentine's day card addressed to her from another man adam says he's been in poor
39:02health recently and fears that ruth has got fed up and looked for love elsewhere he says that if they
39:06fail the divorce papers are coming out he says this is a massive day for me maybe i'm being paranoid but
39:11it matters to me this lady is my life adam is on the jeremy kyle show that way oh god you've got the
39:25card oh god of course i did i did all right valentine i'm totally and utterly head over heels
39:36in love with you happy valentine's day to ruth love always thank you for a wonderful time
39:41over christmas and since ring me when you're on your own we can have some more fun you have my
39:49number love you remember 23rd 12 17 now i'm being serious that is gonna do
39:59i've never been a cheat and i won't always be a cheat right uh anyway uh welcome to the show
40:05adam shush you lot get a job uh i've been married to ruth since june 2016. our relationship
40:11has always been brilliant until very recently i'm disabled and she cares for me she's good to you
40:14right yeah she actually does absolutely everything for me she cooks for me she makes sure that i go
40:20to her appointment she makes all my medications there you told my team i feel like half the men
40:25i'm not trying to be rude does that mean you're not able to have a physical relationship no we can't
40:28have a physical relationship because of the medication and also because of my condition what condition is
40:33that i've got a condition called arachniditis basically it's nerve damage to my spine
40:38and it affects your legs and it affects your sexual you know your sexual functions do you
40:43do you believe that that a woman who's married you and who dedicates her life to you will be that
40:48shallow that she go off and have sex with somebody else i mean you're going to believe it reading
40:51that but have you ever thought about that before were there any moments no there's never been any doubt
40:55until we got i got this but you did make quite an interesting thing you said that you do know there
41:01are some people who've got problems with the relationship why what does that mean there's
41:04members of family that were with this at the beginning of the relationship and they know me
41:11from my past and they've done staring before and they've tried to stick their bits in and say you
41:19know he i'm no good for her and things like that and because of my past but people change um
41:27i'll admit i haven't been the best man recently i'm struggling with my illness i'm going to end up
41:31in a wheelchair i just need to know the truth it's doing your head in it is i mean what did she say
41:40if that card had just said to ruth be my valentine from a secret admirer i'd have gone okay fair enough
41:49and laughed because it is quite specific the 23rd where were you on the 26th well no that's not
41:54christmas eve the 23rd on the 23rd the day before christmas eve i was down my ex-partners looking
41:59after my children because she works and my children were off school at the time and i said to her i would
42:05come down and look after them while she went to work so she could earn money to put food in their mouths
42:10right
42:16i give her money towards the children so no doubts at all about this woman until this car let's just
42:20repeat well let's get her out actually let's see what she says she's shouting out ruth on the jeremy
42:24cars that way thank you for a wonderful time over christmas and since ring me when you're on your
42:37own we can have some fun you have my number love you remember 23rd of december 2017 what does that
42:44mean ruth don't know who was it i don't know it's got to be somebody because it says on there a
42:51pacific day yes plenty of time i know you look after me 24 7. he was out that day did you have
42:58somebody around for a bit of slap and tickle i was a whole day wasn't i i was out from 7 30 in the morning
43:03till 8 o'clock at night you know i was i was decorating the flat have you cheated on him no so how do you
43:09feel about that card let's put it both we think it's somebody winding us up winding me up i don't
43:15i mean there's winding people up and there's been that specific to post a card that says certain
43:20things that that you know your old man's gonna think you must know about this is awful and if this
43:26is you know somebody making up that's disgusting isn't it it is yeah whose idea to come here mine
43:32did you all right okay were you were you worried about coming here i i told him all day yesterday
43:40i haven't done the thing do you think you're past the lie detector 100 tell me what life is like at
43:46the moment for you two i do everything for him does that annoy you no because i love him i know you do
43:54but what about the lack of be truthful there must be days where i push your button because there's things i
43:59want to do and i can't do and you have to do for me there must be times where you think oh he can do
44:05that and you know he should be doing things there is do you miss and let's cut to the chase he talked
44:11about buttons is it physically do you find it frustrating or are you just happy because this is
44:17the man you love because he says he's unable to make love to you yeah when i we haven't made love for
44:24nearly 10 months now i'd say a lot of people that are married will be able to identify with that
44:31but it's not it's i'm not just talking about sex i'm talking about intimacy as well
44:35do you have time do you have intimacy no no he's in the spare room or he's on the couch sleeping
44:42i'm in this in the room have you pushed her away no i want to share the rest of my life with this
44:48woman but if i find out that she's cheated i'll tell you now ruth do you feel like to feel do you
44:54ruth do you feel like you've been pushed away by him do you think there's more he could do and i'm
44:58not talking sex i go back there again i'm talking about intimacy what like give her a hug come here
45:05i love you to be it come on come on come on i know you do come on
45:17let's put this right if i find out this is someone's sick joke
45:21well i don't know how many people in the audience think ruth's a cheat oh god
45:27i have been quite outspoken this audience
45:30we asked ruth since the start of your relationship with adam have you had sexual intercourse with
45:37anyone else you said no why'd you say no i'm telling the truth of course she was telling the truth
45:54we've shown our two more questions to go
45:57since the start of your relationship with adam have you had sexual contact with anybody else that's
46:00anything from intercourse to kissing you said no why'd you say no telling the truth of course she was
46:14and since the start of your relationship with adam have you passionately kissed anyone else
46:18you said no do you watch this program yeah yeah it's called acclaims your missy's got a full
46:22house
46:27listen there's some horrible people
46:29um it never ceases to amaze me just how many horrible
46:40nasty stirring manipulative sad gets there are in the world that is that is appalling
46:46knowing what you're going through psychologically physically to put that through the door knowing
46:53what that will do but here's the thing right look at me what a way to do it these people aren't worth
46:59chat i feel really sorry for this woman but i will i will say one thing and i'm not being sorted in any
47:04which way she's a woman she understands the physical things you can hug her you can cuddle her you can
47:11bar the occasional bunch of flowers you can say thank you you can share all right good you can
47:16you can be you can be intimate and you can be caring despite you know despite your your problems and
47:23and and i'm really glad that you came and did this you all right
47:28what do you want to say to him
47:34and i tell you if it was true if you if you passed i've got a lot of problems
47:38uh you two go that way give them a round of applause thank you very much thank you
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47:54thank you for watching i'll see you very soon take care bye bye for now
47:57you are saying i am judge and jury you are perverting the course of justice
48:20oh my god look at that that is absolutely disintegrating
48:23so you sold drugs today for that month how much is that oh great
48:32you used acid or something through it in his face you threw it in his face
48:37it was excruciating you have to pause as much damage as you can you know what the outcome was
48:41going to be there'd be a lot more that would have said to me if that was your son and he died what
48:46would you say obviously i don't have something to say then you're gonna have blood on your hands when
48:50you're out here you're out here on your own it's the face that's a fight
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