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The Jeremy Kyle Show 18th September 2018

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00:00On today's show...
00:02Why did you want to come back today?
00:04To get her out of my life.
00:06To prove that you haven't got an STI?
00:08We've tested you for chlamydia and gonorrhea.
00:12And you as well?
00:14Yeah.
00:16You're supposed to be my best friend.
00:18You're supposed to be my partner.
00:20I don't go off my dying mum, do I?
00:22Why does it matter to you
00:24whether they've got a clap or not?
00:26She's better in bed than you.
00:28You've got to get up ten times with her and dance.
00:34She was a frame of benefits but she turned out
00:36to be a bunny boiler.
00:40It's just ruining me life.
00:42Stalking me.
00:44Did you get me so soon, Billy?
00:46You say I can't walk down the street
00:48without her hiding behind a tree.
00:50She's turning to a stalker.
00:54You told me you love me
00:56and then you changed her mind.
00:58Just a couple of days later.
01:00You don't love me.
01:01During your relationship with Ella,
01:02did you passionately kiss anybody else?
01:03She said no.
01:04Why don't you say no?
01:06Foreigners.
01:08Zero!
01:10Wait.
01:11And now.
01:13Come here.
01:14Hello, my friends, good morning and a big, big welcome to the show.
01:32Now, you might just recognise our first guest today from yesterday.
01:37It was explosive.
01:38Take a look at this, my friends.
01:39And Mark's on the show with the Love Bites.
01:44Give him a round of applause.
01:50When we were sleeping, I was literally here and I was fucking Becky like this.
02:03Sorry, I'm...
02:04What did you say?
02:06We were sleeping here.
02:09Who was sleeping?
02:10I was in the middle, Becky was there, Helen was there.
02:14Me and Becky, when she was sleeping, was literally this far away and I was like this.
02:19Oh!
02:21CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
02:23So, basically, the truth is Mark was with Helen.
02:31They went somewhere, Western Superman in a tent, invited Becca and Mark and Becca did it behind Helen's back.
02:37Now, Becca and Mark are back this morning to prove to Helen the rest.
02:40Check this.
02:40Did you ever think you'd say this?
02:41God rest my mother's soul.
02:43To prove they don't have an SDI.
02:45CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
02:47Scaling the heights of broadcasting brilliance, the Jeremy Carr Show.
02:50Becca and Mark are back.
02:51Give her a round of applause.
02:52CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
02:54What are you shouting out again for?
03:03Yeah!
03:03Cos she can't give her mouth shut, that's why.
03:05CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
03:07There's none of that can do with you.
03:10Why are you going to put your ass left and do with you, you silly little cow?
03:13None of you can do with me.
03:15Tony, why should I even be here?
03:16Could we at least, could we at least just keep some semblance, cos I don't have to go through this rubbish of yesterday?
03:20Put your red down as well.
03:21Welcome back, you're now together, you met, you were going out, as we said yesterday, with Helen, but you and Becca got...
03:28Biggest mistake of my life.
03:29I beg your pardon?
03:30Biggest mistake of my life, yeah?
03:32Brilliant, well done.
03:32Anyway, you and Becca got together.
03:36In fact, Helen, as we heard on yesterday's show, caught you having sex in a public toilet, when you were supposed to be on holiday with her.
03:43During the show yesterday, in fact, I'm just going to come straight to the point, Becca.
03:47Uh, Helen said, Becca is a dirty, filthy, STI-ridden scumbag.
03:52Oh!
03:55So, uh, in truth, Jeremy, can't say, why did you want to come back today?
03:59To get her out of my life.
04:00To prove that you haven't got an STI.
04:01And to prove that, yeah, as well.
04:03Imagine.
04:04Um, we've tested you, I mean, extraordinarily classy, we've tested you for chlamydia and gonorrhea.
04:08And you as well.
04:09Yep.
04:10Whoever thought I'd be doing this?
04:11Uh, you're on television, in front of millions, proving that you haven't got the clap.
04:15Yep.
04:16Excellent.
04:17Uh, you two, I mean, television gold, isn't it, really, to be fair.
04:20So, Helen's back.
04:21You don't want to be with Helen, you want her out of her life.
04:23You say, well, prove we haven't got this.
04:25Get out of our lives.
04:26We're happy.
04:27We didn't go up out in the right way, but that's fine.
04:29She's also here with Laura, her mate, that Laura...
04:31Which she hasn't spoke to her for five months, so she don't even know half of her.
04:34Laura is going out, is she going out with you, Andy?
04:36No, she's an ex.
04:37What?
04:38She's an ex.
04:39Elvis is in the audience, give him a round of applause.
04:42So, you used to go out with Laura, you're on their side.
04:48Um, didn't you walk in and catch her having sex with another man?
04:51I did.
04:52Oh!
04:53Anybody on this show or on this stage who hasn't had sex with anyone?
04:56So, Helen and Laura are back, because they say you're a couple of disease-ridden low-lives,
04:59and basically, today they'll out you.
05:01Helen and Laura are back on the Jeremy Cards, go that way.
05:04I want you to tell my life.
05:12You were supposed to be my best friend, you're supposed to you my partner.
05:15How about you?
05:16Stop being...
05:17Off my time, mum, do I?
05:18Off my time on do I why are you back today? Why does it matter to you whether they've got the clap or not?
05:39This this came out yesterday we have to do this
05:41But we have to try and do it in a slightly more subtle way for the Jeremy cow show yesterday you made an accusation
05:48One at a time shut up not you you um put it in words that could be broadcast
05:54What is it that she's been accused of doing she got caught with basically a dog
06:07The most shocking thing is the woman actually sat in the chair and went
06:13Did this did this happen nope why are you nodding then i'm just laughing at her
06:18Why did you want to do this sti test because of rumors well because the order to shut her mouth about me
06:23Why do you keep running around saying that because she's jealous because i've had people tell me but why is it matter to you
06:28This is all you trying to score points because you're jealous so they're together where's your dignity what of course you are
06:34They deserve each other come on
06:36Then walk away with some dignity does it matter
06:41Does it matter
06:44Don't say a word gobby you want answers to him what he's a dirty git who decided to get off with her in a tent so why don't you walk away and go
06:50Do you know what i'm better than you i don't need this anymore
06:53I want to know why he's done it ask him then
06:57The reason why i did it is because she's better in bed than you i'd get up once with you i'd get up ten times with her a day
07:02Sorry hold on a second how many times a day once with her ten with her
07:16Ten yeah you have sex ten times a day do you work nope
07:21That's right that's what i can do up to ten times a day
07:25Why don't you go to work so you've got it for better to do
07:27Why doesn't he go to work and stop having sex for years
07:35Okay so right so you wanted to prove that these are unfounded rumors but you said and i quote i want answers just don't
07:41Interrupt him and ask him ask him what you want to ask him go on why if you don't want to be with me why didn't you end it before
07:47Reason i can't give you a reason exactly but i didn't love you anymore so why did you start having
07:54Sex with her before you had the decency to tell her and i couldn't give an explanation jerry the right
08:00It's not jerry don't ever jeremy sorry jeremy sorry jeremy tony used to go out with who well both of us
08:11Didn't you have sex with him in the hotel last night yeah
08:17You're denying it now are you so who's lying then which one you lying or you
08:23Did you have sex with her last night no you're a liar
08:32You did didn't you no really so why is she saying you did
08:37Huh why is she saying you did you see your mouth on facebook and that but you've got nothing to say now have you
08:41Why is that what does it matter that what you said whether you've got an STI or not they can have each other right
08:46They're welcome to each other i think you started this i understood initially you were like oh my god oh my god you
08:51Know this guy disrespected me right but he's done what he's done they're not they're gonna look at them
08:55They're parading around like loves young dream it's not gonna work is it
08:58It's not gonna work it's not gonna work well then go away and get on with your life
09:01Who are you
09:03Why do you have to use the f-word you horrible woman i ain't a horrible woman
09:09Why don't you just go i'm her best friend
09:11They're horrible they're the one that says she's got this sat in the oven
09:14She's got it me no i have not
09:16Thanks mate for that
09:17She's got to reduce the street news free
09:18So why are you here then though
09:20She didn't have to do it for 22 years
09:22Yeah you don't speak i've got to have her in my chair
09:24So i don't know what tony
09:26Oh lord
09:27Shut up
09:29Before i get you out
09:30Oh and hella roger 40 grams
09:3240 grams yeah between both of them
09:34You did
09:35Oh i did did i really yeah
09:37Anyway back to gonorrhea um
09:38Um
09:46So i understand why you've got a gripe i get that this three said what why what i'm here to support helen
09:55So i'm paying respects to helen because she's helped me out so i'm helping her
09:58How will she help you out i've had problems with partners in the past she's been been there for me so
10:03You know you two out to pay for five months so why are you on here do you know what i mean you're out to pay for five months so why are you even on here
10:10Because she asked me to come and have to support
10:11Does it matter on a serious note
10:14I mean please don't take this the wrong way because i don't really know what to say
10:18They've done a test they say they're out to prove it i mean listen one thing that's pretty obvious amongst anybody and everybody in this story
10:24Is that everybody seems to have sex in an unprotected way without any consequence
10:28uh uh uh contemplation of the consequences it's all one big joke she's right if you fancy somebody else you have the decency to finish before you start with somebody else you might think i'm speaking now you might think
10:41You know that this is love's young dream but you're both exactly the same the idiotic thing i heard last night is you're trying for a baby
10:47Yeah why don't you get a home and a job so you can support your child before you bring another one
10:55Right so you're only saying that what worries me is and i know i'm getting old is when people like you use having a baby to score points
11:04It should be because you want you know to bring a life into this world that you can give opportunity to you lot
11:09There's no seriousness about this just want the money for the kid do you
11:13Pardon you heard me so you want the money you want the benefits for the child then yeah i'm actually
11:17Quoting looking for work looking for work well i suggest you keep it in your trousers or wrap it until you've got a job so you can pay for your own damn kid
11:26i don't understand why that's so alien but anyway um i've got graham here because when we do something
11:32And medically it was done graham would you like to come give graham a round of applause
11:42just to say um they gave consent for this test this was done medically and correctly and we tested for
11:49what you guys what you you actually requested this backstage didn't you that we carry out these tests
11:53and then you consented to the results being uh revealed on the stage on television the whole world's
11:59about to find out whether in fact you've got well we received the report back from dr gauche and
12:03you'll both be pleased to know that you were negative for chlamydia
12:11my life don't even bother right would you make it out of your life i mean mate i was like your life
12:15months ago so why did you get back in contact then well i don't know stupid me it wasn't it
12:20because i know she was messaging you behind my back how was i messaging him behind your back i only met him on
12:25that first day no no no no you messaged him on my profile oh did it on my tablet is that what that
12:31little lowlife in the audience said then is it well you brainwashed him that's not perking up i brainwashed
12:36you brainwashed him saying i cheated on him when i never oh really really you cheated on me when you
12:44first met me in bam and gone no i did not yes she did who was then tony because he slept with me
12:50behind my back could i i wasn't with him then oh the second day i was with him we're done you haven't
12:55got gonorrhea you haven't got chlamydia you've got the woman that you want you've got your tent back
13:00just take your neck covering love bites with your woman get on with your life and never the twain shall
13:06meet you go that way you go that way
13:10it's just ruining me life now stalking me you say i can't walk down the street without
13:17her hiding behind a tree she's turning to a stalker i caught her climbing through my kitchen window yeah
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14:03thank you very much thank you welcome back my next guest today billy says that he is here to tell his
14:07stalking friend with benefits that she needs to accept their over and stop contacting him
14:11he says he can't even walk down the street without his ex following him and hiding behind a tree
14:16today he says you know what you need to understand i never loved you right i'm sorry it might sound
14:21horrible but it's gone you've got to get your head around this bill is on the jeremy carl show that
14:26way
14:34very easy with these labels to cast everybody you know in a bad way let's talk about you and and ella
14:40um yeah how long i mean what is friends with i mean were you in a relation help me out for god's sake
14:46well i met her with my cousin was meeting her first so we were all together she didn't like him
14:51she let she liked me and then obviously latched onto me ever since was it a relationship or was
14:57it just person you had sex with was it a booty call i'm getting call me basically a booty call
15:03it was a booty call so you never loved you just called her up when you wanted to yeah she knew that
15:06anyway from the start well you actually said to her by the way i don't want to be with you i'm just
15:10going to phone you on a friday if i want to what false hope she was a frame of benefits but she
15:17turned out to be a bunny boiler oh yeah well talk to me give me some fact what do you mean by that's
15:24a bit rude isn't it well wait it's just ruining me life how stalking me just uh oh sorry billy
15:33you say i can't walk down the street without her hiding behind a tree she's turned into a stalker
15:39yeah it's true she put a tracker on your phone well she knew where it was all the time
15:46must be flat hasn't seen any sun for four weeks because i've had the curtains permanently closed
15:51because i don't want her to look in look living like a vampire yeah i've caught her climbing
15:57through my kitchen window yeah yeah i've come through through my front room into my kitchen
16:04and then when i've looked in the window there she is it's like whoa
16:10how many times does she call you a day obviously i've left me phone in my house
16:14i've gone out into town done some shop and come back and there's been like 50 missed calls
16:20within three hours it's quite sad though and i'm not being rude when was the last time you had sex with
16:25a couple of months ago now two three months um again slightly difficult and i'm being completely
16:31honest because we've all been in that situation where we probably want to be with somebody and
16:35they don't reciprocate that feeling and then you get cast aside and it's pretty horrible isn't it
16:38yeah uh whatever your age um and this is a girl of 20 so maybe you're her first love and she fell
16:44in love with you big time are you being horrible or are you just saying look i'm not trying to be rude
16:48she's making me out to be a horrible man just because i don't love her yeah it's not fair you
16:53know what i mean you can't make someone why have you done a lie detector billy because she constantly
16:57accuses me every day like calling me all obscenities you can imagine every day this is really dragging
17:04you down yeah big times like i mean what's interesting about you is you haven't come out here
17:07and slagged her off and shouted and screamed you're just saying look you know we were friends with
17:11benefits she says you encouraged it you gave her false hope you're from the mindset that says she's an
17:17adult i'm an adult we had sex deal with it love there was nothing more but now most people in
17:21the audience were going oh he's a bit harsh and then when you said she phones you 60 times a day
17:25and climbed through your kitchen window most people went that's a bit weird to be fair yes but let's do
17:30our best to help this girl because it isn't easy when if it's true you know you you you go through
17:35that let's get her out yeah ella's on the jeremy karl show that way
17:45we were together from november from november to march four or five weeks it was no it was not
17:51you cannot lie why are you lying in your head that we're together we walked up we walked up the
17:57beach train station you said there was four things you had to say to me for me to put for us to be
18:03together no lying no cheating and no robbing there was another one that i can't remember of no lying no
18:09cheating and no robbing how romantic is that we'll be together if you don't lie you don't
18:15cheat and you don't rob what else was the other thing i can't remember maybe get a job i don't know
18:22do you know what was the other one what was the other one none of that was true well yes it was
18:27you cannot lie you just make things off in your head darling i don't mean to be rude you say you're
18:31not a scott you're not a stalker and you weren't a booty call he said he rang you i'm not trying to
18:35be rude but if he picked up the phone the first time then maybe do you phone him 60 times a day no
18:41do i help you're in love with it you have done i am yeah and it's horrible isn't it it's horrible i know
18:46first love yeah and you feel used yep but is it fair to say and the hardest thing in the world is
18:57a story like this sweetheart because i don't want to be harsh i said before we've all been there it's
19:02it's easy to say he's a heartless whatever and he's used to me but i mean has he led you on yes how
19:11like he's told me he loved me and then like another time he told me no we haven't yes you
19:16have never you've been telling me you love me for weeks and weeks i never tell you i love you yeah
19:23i never tell you i love you you've told me you love me and then you changed the mind like a couple
19:29of days later saying you don't love me no we haven't get your head get your story straight why don't you
19:35i know you're only 20 and you'll probably think i'm talking out of my backside but why if you are not in
19:39love with him don't you do the ultimate thing and change the game plan so that you appear hear me
19:43out less desperate and see actually if he is genuine why don't you switch it completely around the other
19:47way and find out the truth about him or next time he apparently phones you because he's leading you
19:51on and wants a booty call why don't you not answer your phone and why don't you go out and just get
19:55on with your life or something did you did you climb through his kitchen window you did didn't you
20:05know at all you've never i have not climbed through my window yes you are i've never when i've been
20:10around there yeah i'll tell you what i what i don't understand i've been crying at my window so many
20:17times you knocked on the window because he loved you yeah because you feel sorry for you
20:22but why i don't want you to feel sorry for me you've been knocking on his window then it's been
20:28you're saying he's my mate what are you saying that one minute he's my mate and the next minute he's
20:32saying he loves me he needs to get a story straight at the end of the day no i'm not you're the liar
20:37you're the liar because you've been crying at my window and you're crying at me window
20:44no every day is it raining it's like a vicious circle no i'm talking to you like a normal person
20:52why is it i believe him a little bit because he's sleeping with me all the time why every day
20:57i lived there for two months has he he slept nearly every day i was living there i was living
21:04no he hasn't no okay i think it made the last time okay just a very quick question for you
21:11both and no disrespect why am i doing a lie detector because i just want everything to
21:16be done and out there and i just want to know like to show him like obviously i'm going to say something
21:21now i'm going to say something and you are going to hate me but i have a daughter who's seven years
21:25older than you and i'm i would be saying this to my daughter and i know you're going to you you're
21:29going to leave the studio you're going to i hate jeremy carl you shouldn't i hope he's cheated on you
21:33do you know why because my little darling the only way you're going to get over this because he
21:38doesn't want to be with you is to actually end up turning away from wanting to be but he said
21:42to me if i get the help i need then things will change by doing this this is the reason why i've
21:48done it so are you brought here she needs obviously some help ike she doesn't need help at all mate
21:54we've all been there we've all done it any tell me anybody in this audience hasn't been in love with
21:58somebody who hasn't been in love with them and it drives you nuts has anybody not been in that
22:01position in their life everybody's been in that position right at some point yeah whether you were 10 or
22:06so i don't understand what i haven't like been like so lucky you it was going well till that
22:11point wasn't it everybody's been have you been in that position will yes yes have you steve serious
22:18question no no disrespect rich we've all been in that position haven't we because it happens
22:22and for 30 40 years of life you want something you can't have it the only person who hasn't is
22:28barbara is 87 on the autocue um right um right ella what did you cheat on him no i haven't no you
22:34love him yeah last year in a relationship or whatever with billy did you have she passed every
22:41single question she's been very faithful to you you know what you know what you know what's really
22:47sad and i don't i don't i don't mean this i don't mean this badly but you look really pleased and he
22:54doesn't care and that's awful i don't mean that sorry a minute not my problem i've proved but he's not
23:00being horrible is he i mean i don't billy couldn't remember the exact date when he started having
23:09casual sex with ella but he did admit to sleeping with another woman as well as ella
23:17so you were having sex with somebody else yeah however he states he did not sleep with any other
23:22woman when they were made their relationship official i thought it wasn't official for like five
23:27weeks which lasted until they split the week after i lost a job at mcdonald's from november me from
23:35november from november during your relationship with ella did you passionately kissed anybody else
23:40she said no why did you say no soul and the truth this is your live hour
23:49he failed every single question including sexual intercourse
23:53i didn't know that but i want you to listen to me you had sex you're an adult he's an adult it
23:58probably didn't mean to him you're young you fall in love i don't know if you played out if you did
24:03you've got a conscience but sweetheart listen can i say something to you go look in the mirror baby
24:08you can do better than that anyway seriously okay i mean i know but he's not a bad man he's not
24:13i don't think he's a bad man i'm trying oh wait wait wait Ella Ella
24:21horrible what i like about you which probably won't go down well with some people is you're not
24:26sitting there being horrible and smug um yeah horrible situation i know and she's devoid right
24:34oh no that's what always gets me i and i just can't keep doing it it is a question to everybody how
24:39do you cut something off when you know it's not right without being cast it's not right it's not
24:44right like at all but no encouragement appreciate you coming on all right all right give me a round
24:50of applause for going that way
24:56slightly awkward but that's the reality of life more after the break don't go anywhere right back
25:00because of everything that went on before like we've obviously defined them out that she slept with
25:04someone behind my back what if she's done that again absolutely very many how many times you cheated
25:09on her i don't cheat on the bike how many people think she's a liar
25:25my next guest today connor said that just three weeks ago his partner kicked him out of their home
25:28and ended their relationship due to him apparently being lazy now this guy's had a hard time to make
25:33matters worse connor says that his ex has now banned him from seeing a kids who he's raised from a
25:37young age telling him you've got no rights you're not their father he hopes that today well he can win
25:42her back because she's the love of his life but also carrying on me a dad to her young boys
25:46emotional and important for him connor's on the car show that way
25:49i am now i mean you have stuck with this woman you've been with stevie two years you've stuck
26:04through her through thick and thin she cheated didn't she yeah we came on the show before and
26:09when we were on a break here she slept why did you forgive her because i love her absolutely love
26:19her she says you did nothing you were lazy you yeah don't get me wrong i'm going through a lot at the
26:26minute and i was going i'm going for a really hard time do you know what i mean i've got lazy i'm not
26:32i'm not here for sympathy i don't want sympathy but i was going through a hell of a lot my brother's
26:39very ill your brother's terminally ill isn't he yeah terminally ill and uh
26:47everything just just gets on top of me do you know what i mean i don't want to
26:51i try and zone out from everything these kids which is a pretty unique story on this show and
26:56i salute you for this i'm sorry about your brother you've brought her kids up from a young age you've
27:03been that constant feature in their lives you've been the person that has been there now she's saying
27:10you're gone you're this you're a waste of space and by the way you've got no rights now it's a very
27:15it's a very content look at that mummy will you marry daddy you've got them to wear t-shirts and stuff
27:20like that interestingly it's an interesting one for everybody in the audience and at home i think because
27:26does he have any rights not legally morally surely if you bring a kid up for two three four years
27:32consistent feature in their lives does she have a right to say that legally as the mother absolutely
27:38does she have a right to be that callous so quickly you'll never see them again
27:42what's your fear that she's moved on i just feel like she's she's not interested in me anymore
27:50why is she doing a lie detector because um because of everything that went on before
27:56like we've obviously defined an outlet she slept with someone behind my back what if she's done
28:00that again absolutely ruin me do you know what i mean i've been i've been on this show twice before
28:07defending her do you know what i mean defending her defending that little boy
28:12let's get her out yeah sorry difficult time for you um stevie's on the jeremy car show that way
28:25it's not the first time is it what did you say it's not the first time kicking you out is it
28:29no it's not the first time exactly why do i keep doing it what do you mean why do you ever talk to
28:34me because you deny i think you do no you don't talk to me you you say that you helped me in all
28:40this yeah but when we're in the situation where we're in the flat you know what i've got going on
28:44you're telling everyone i'm using it as an excuse no i'm not i've never had to deal with grief that i'm
28:48going through when i had to deal with it how many times have you had to deal with it once but it's
28:52not the point is it is that the same thing but you've been through it yeah i've not had and i've
28:56helped you get through it yeah yeah you have i've told everyone you have been my rock through
29:01everything but then why do you treat me like it how does he treat you just um i don't think
29:06i do absolutely everything for them how do you said something that was also quite interesting in
29:09terms of if we try and look at both sides which is the remit it was like having three kids
29:15he was selfish he was no role model how if i wanted his help he would get stroppy he ignored
29:21the kids he wasn't a great dad and he would sit on his backside all day doing his xbox and i got to
29:27a point you said stevie where you felt like it was just about a free ride yeah i was doing everything
29:34the only thing he would do was quick but this is what i don't get you you said about me being on a
29:39games console and things like this if i'm playing a game on the games console and you're sitting on your
29:44phone playing games on your phone all day surely that's not the same thing but the phone's in my
29:47hand the tv is for my kids not for you to be sitting there doing so the kids don't ever
29:52you moved on really you moved on done it before haven't you no not really how many times you cheated
29:58on him i didn't cheat it was on a break that's not cheating really he's not as bad as you make out
30:04though is he no but why should i do everything for him i've checked him out more than once for this
30:08it's not just the first time you're not in love with him anymore
30:12have you told him that oh he knows i don't because when it moves first together fine brilliant but
30:18until to keep doing this all the time doing what not doing anything not helping me but you say i
30:24don't help you but you don't you say he's no sort of father there's somebody we're going to bring
30:27on now who's got a completely different view of that ros is on the jeremy car she's your aunt ros
30:41hello ros welcome to the show um you say he's a fantastic father how would you know
30:46how well do i know him well he's my nephew how do you know he's a good father he has been good
30:50to the kids it does it when you all come over this is what annoys me he doesn't always do it when we
30:56come over when you come over that's it actually in time he bothers so i didn't teach to ride his
31:00bike we didn't spend hours downstairs trying to teach him how to ride his bike we don't take him
31:04over to park play football how was it ages ago because you don't do it anymore i don't do it anymore
31:10because of what i've gone through do you know what i mean the first stages of my brother's cancer it
31:13wasn't terminal but then and then i found that but i can't face him what would you rather miss out on it
31:19and regret not going to see him yeah i understand that but i can't that's what i'm trying to do it
31:24you tell me to go and do it but you don't understand how much grief he's bringing
31:29do you know what i mean i can't look at my little brother the same way i used to do you know what i
31:33mean he's getting that courage to go and see him why don't you go with him darling and support the
31:38person you're with i would but you wouldn't so would you know i would you know i've been even as a
31:43friend after everything you do why don't you encourage him and help him why don't you do something nice
31:49i mean don't get me wrong not into sugarcoating and patently she don't love you anymore mate and
31:56what you're going through is horrific but she shouldn't love you because you're going through
31:59that's a horrible horrible time and people hang into relationships and hope it's and all that's
32:03horrible but but you're a bit hard faced you aren't you not really yeah you are i'm not it's not
32:07the first time this happens so i'm not going to keep doing it so why do you keep banging
32:12it against a brick wall pal i call her lover to paces she's only ever girl i've actually fell in
32:17love with what about the kids you're now saying to my team he ain't blood he ain't on the birth
32:23suit because he's got no rights well no i i said to him we can see him yeah but bringing me here was
32:28the last thing and doesn't want to it's been three weeks since i've seen them children you told me when
32:35we first split up i could see them on the weekend and have i seen them but what did you say to me
32:39have i seen them no why because i said you had two parties to go to you said take them did you go
32:44to these parties i went to one one so you know one day of the weekend she said i've slept with one
32:50person on a break i passed the lie detector 100 it's an excuse i don't love him anymore he's got to
32:55get it into his head i'm enjoying my life just being a mum yeah yeah get the results how many people in
33:03this audience think that stevie and we've all been through it just fell out of love with this
33:06bloke hasn't cheated and wants to move on hasn't is telling the truth on the lie detector how many
33:09people how many people think she's a liar from the examiner stevie admitted to sleeping with another
33:20man during a break with connor we knew that she also admitted to sleeping with another man in the
33:25last three weeks yeah but i went with him she didn't know about that you've had sex with somebody
33:33else yeah but i'm not with him so you're hard faced aren't you well i'm not with him so and that
33:42wasn't actually you said that like you enjoyed it as well because hope it never happens to you
33:48darling because people like you who are so smug because they think that everybody want to be with
33:51them one day i was this great desire that people like you're in a room on your own when you've been
33:55dumped and are completely in love she failed she failed every single question despite despite what
34:02she admitted to listen to me just can i just say something the whole entire time i have been with
34:09you i have stuck faith faithful to you yeah i've been on this show twice defending you and them boys
34:16and you break my heart twice because you've slept with someone else so why'd you lie why'd you lie
34:22that's the second person i'll set with the second person how many people no no no no no no no no
34:27no no you admitted to sleeping with an amount that was the break we knew about then you admitted to
34:31sleeping with somebody else the last three weeks then you failed the questions anyway so it's more than
34:35one person isn't it well i will tell you something no i don't blame you that you've fallen out of love
34:40with him but the way you go about it i hope means that one day you feel like this because this man
34:44is going through a hard time and even as a even even even even even if you had any morality or
34:49anything nice inside you you'd have been decent but you're not decent you're smug you go away and
34:53you'll be single and you sleep with whoever you want to sleep but one day i hope you feel how he
34:56feels because i'm gonna look after him why all i want to say is that just because i'm not with her
35:07don't we know i ain't gonna give up for trying to fight for them kids you're a nice man you are
35:10dim kids in my world do you know what i mean i'm sorry what was that gifts from my kids
35:20we'll help you with that i don't mean her engagement room
35:22buddy let me tell you something you probably think oh it's okay it's a television show and it's
35:38easy and all that been there horrible rock bottom you've got to be strong i knew i was right to have
35:43my suspicions i don't mean who goes around someone's house till one o'clock in the morning
35:47absolutely oh what are you here for are you going to say i love you now are you no well why are you
35:54here then i don't want i don't want none of this none of it i want the kids but you've got to understand
36:00no no what you have got to understand is yeah i brought you here to get after care you to give me
36:05give me a chance to sort these kids to see these kids i love these kids you're saying that i don't do
36:11anything for these kids don't until people are fat i love these kids what do you mean every time we
36:16have a break you go and someone else hello what happens do you know the problem is what happens yes
36:26she's alive once she's been found out what happens though when she gets with somebody else seriously
36:30you i mean that's this is what i said at the beginning of the part what happens when you get
36:34with somebody else the whole thing's a minefield isn't it if you haven't got rights i'll tell you
36:38what i don't you haven't got any rights and you're going to hate me behind but what i don't like is
36:41your smug attitude because you have immediately pulled the rug because you don't want to be with
36:45him yeah it's your right you're not doing anything wrong it's just the way you go about it you're not
36:49very nice are you i'm not going to keep saying i don't want to be with him why should i no you
36:52shouldn't be with him but you explain things properly though to him well i do try to but how do you
37:00you turn around and said to me you know what i mean you loved me and all this and you say about
37:03the boys and not wanting to see him yeah that don't say you love me does it well how do you
37:09know how do you know when it's happened it's happened in the last three weeks i haven't been
37:13with you for the past three weeks have i what so i just i just so say if i was to go to work
37:19so if i was going to work you know going out for a week of work how am i supposed to we're in a
37:24relationship but how am i supposed to know you're not sleeping with someone well you don't do you but i'm
37:27not gonna so if i'm with you i'm not gonna who it is it doesn't matter who it is you see a minute
37:34name people who aren't here it's horrible it's horrible it was him again oh that wasn't actually
37:40you're gonna torture yourself mate does it matter who it was no no clearly i don't matter to you do i
37:47well me and you are done so it doesn't matter does it but did i deserve this you could explain to me
37:52things properly though couldn't you and what have you said to the keys but why should you set with one
37:57person twice so it's the same guy twice no that's why that's coming as failed can i see him no he
38:05doesn't want to i'm not going to force him so you're just going to rip the kids away from me like i didn't
38:09say it did i said you could see them but you decided to take another step and come here because
38:14this is my last option but why drag me here and the kids i had all these suspicions all along that
38:19you were doing me over again do you know what i mean brought you here because i love you stevie
38:25then you're you're the only girl i've ever fell in love with but then why do this one this is what
38:29what do you mean why do the stuff you do because i'm coping with a lot do you know what i mean my
38:33brother is dying and do stuff my brother is dying and get up and do stuff yeah there's not how can i
38:39take my mind off it i'm going to be burying my brother before i go i had to can i can i say something
38:44because i actually feel um like i shouldn't be here this is probably one of the few moments on this show
38:49in 15 years i feel like i'm intruding um this is really awkward and horrible and a terrible
38:55situation like i said at the beginning because there isn't wrong on her side it's the way you do
39:01it really um it's a horrible horrible situation you've put a lot into this in your words i tell you
39:06that as read don't have any rights you're very clinical very hard very keen to move on that's your
39:12right you know i say every day you can't just stay with somebody for the wrong reasons emotional
39:16blackmail doesn't make a person stay with you if you stay for the wrong reasons it will go wrong
39:21the hardest thing for you is you're going through a difficult time away from this and now this just
39:25adds to it the reality is she doesn't want to be with you can you tell somebody it's over in a more
39:31decent way maybe maybe not maybe when you end something it never ends nicely what you have to do
39:36is this though and will help you and this sounds awful and i apologize for even say it you cannot allow
39:43what's happening in your personal life with your brother and this to mean that you just give up
39:49and you don't you don't care you should go and see your brother before it's too late you will find
39:53somebody not not now you won't because you don't need to you need to concentrate on your brother and
39:58you need to rebuild yourself up um there'll be plenty more stevies who treat you badly and plenty
40:03more stevies who treat you better right now you don't see that but time and maturity in life will show
40:08you that that's the case because when you're at the lowest point i've always believed this
40:13when you are at your lowest you find out about yourself and there are many things on this
40:17television program that i rail about and i have absolutely no experience but let me tell you young
40:22man from the bottom of my heart when you are on your backside in a dark room with nowhere to go
40:30thinking oh my god if i go out that door the whole world's gonna laugh at me you find something
40:35somewhere and you will find it and we'll help you do it all right thanks for coming on
40:42the sex was awful and in fact you said i had to fake an orgasm just to get him off me
40:47every time every time yes
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41:31now my next guest today rosie's here to find out whether the reason for her boyfriend kicking her
41:35out on the street last week was indeed because he's a cheat she says that a man has failed every
41:40lighter takes her on this very show with his exes but she said i thought i changed him she now demands
41:46answer says if he's done the dirty she doesn't want him but demands her cat back
41:52you've cheated your history but i'm getting the cat rose is on the car show that way
41:56you're all right love oh well definitely welcome to the show sit back relax rosie 34 uh mike uh how
42:11long oh how long were you how long were you of mike for two years control freak control freak
42:18basically hit me physically mentally control me what i was wearing who i could talk to he pretended he
42:23loved me but spent most of his time calling me fat and ugly yes why'd you stay with him babe
42:30because at some point i did love him and you hope it'll get better it's quite interesting what i said
42:34in the introduction that you knew that on past shows he's failed can i can i just get into the psyche
42:39of a woman right because this is an interesting one you know he's a serial cheat you know he's a
42:45bloke who disrespects women what is it about a woman that goes i'm going to be the one that will
42:50change him i'm going to be because basically you had two years of whatever yeah and now you find
42:55yourself here thinking if he is what i think he is oh no but did i mean his family never liked me
43:04mike's a mummy's boy oh yeah mommy's boy what brenda yes but you threatened her i threatened her
43:10because she called me a dirty little and i know i'm fit mom so i found to start the picture excuse
43:15me a minute
43:21mommy's boy everything she said she split us up and all you can do is mommy's boy you didn't even speak
43:27to that woman for two years you've called me the big going you are the biggest going that's why
43:32takes one do you know what a mirror is yep have a look in one
43:53brenda says that you're not what you appear to be let's wait we've got a video statement
43:56well i'm probably about to hear it but anyways brenda on the jeremy cowell show this video
43:59stone's lovely she's just a fat ugly looking oompa loompa
44:05and i don't care what she thinks to me but i hate her guts and she can keep away from michael
44:10and leave me and my husband and my son alone this is the same dirty
44:16that it's like me down
44:23have you ever got your breasts out in town no i haven't mike sent an i love you message to other
44:28girls even tried to meet them in hotels this is cheating scumbag cheating line's gone back you
44:32say the sex was rubbish oh hell yeah uh you say uh you're an embarrassment uh he chucked you out
44:39he chucked me out um friday he must have been mightily relieved hell yeah it was hell yeah
44:45but he's kept your three-legged cat he's kept my three-legged cat and i want my cat back and i want
44:49my mobile phone back off him that i bought him why is he gonna lie detector why does it matter well
44:53they'll make you feel better it won't you feel better yeah will it yeah but you'll get back
44:56with him if you pass you'll love him you him and the cat no i don't i can't i'm not ever getting
45:00back with him he's he's physically and lately drained me and calling me so many names it's
45:05took me a couple of days to get my confidence back up but it's only been six days i mean he
45:08chucked you out bag of clothes yeah so you're hoping that he fails in a way which will vindicate
45:12what you said and then you can walk away going like what about if he passes
45:15still aren't taking him back loves young dream in my eyes whether he passes or he fails their message
45:20you said he's a cheat and he'll always be a cheat and you know what any woman that
45:23watching this show don't ever get with him
45:29so he was controlling he was horrible he was vile the sex was awful and in fact you said i had to
45:34fake an orgasm just to get him off me every time every time yes every woman's faked an orgasm though
45:41hasn't she yeah not with me baby mike's on the jeremy kyle show that way
45:54smells like fish
45:57i've never want you back that's fine it takes one
46:01and shannon he ain't coming back with you because i'm
46:04stop slagging women off stay down
46:10and by the way you're the violent one you're the aggressive one
46:14not me the only reason i ever hit back is because you used to hit me no never you say um that
46:20she has treated you badly she's jealous and obsessive she threatened to batter your mother yeah you
46:26threw her out six days ago the relationship is good as dead to you yes why are you here
46:32because i want to tell her to leave me alone why do you yeah really why do you need to do a
46:36lie detector are you sure you're not just you're probably still in love with her right just playing
46:39a game yeah that's not what i've been told are you a cheat no no how many times have you failed
46:45lie detectors on this show about four times
46:52i don't know why you're clapping why are you so stupid to stay around so long i was a mug
46:58you'll be back with him within five minutes from the examiner oh yeah like you're gonna be able to
47:02pick mike admitted to kissing another woman whilst on a break from rosie also admitted to having another
47:07relationship whilst on a break mike admitted that he kissed another woman before christmas whilst in a
47:12relationship with you did you know that no i don't really care he failed every single question
47:26what have you got hello what have you got what it's case what keys lucky don't try them
47:39what are you doing you can have them go drop down dad and don't come to me that goes and wallow you can
47:45drop that you're horrible aren't you i'm not even going to follow you to mommy mommy will look after
47:51you don't walk into the wall um so so in essence that's it then yeah good well that will be the
48:04end of the part yeah you will do but i wouldn't go back with it if it was me you'd probably get more
48:08out of that wall give him a round of applause i'm out of here thank you very much
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48:24take care bye-bye for now
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