The Jeremy Kyle Show 6th March 2018
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00:00on today's show he's a waste of space he needs to concentrate on his own life and his own kids not
00:06mine apparently he had a vasectomy so apparently he had a vasectomy he hasn't had a vasectomy at
00:13all you know rubbish to say the baby looks nothing like him this guy needs to wise up but he can do
00:18better you had a relationship with her before your brother didn't you no this is not the brother i
00:25used to know all eight years ago just stay out of my relationship you know nothing slept with you
00:32where on the stairs right he tied me to my stairs said he was going to his car and left me there
00:38what do you think of her she's a liar is she
00:55hello my friends good morning and a big big welcome to the show i'm the first guest today paul is here
01:12because he says check this i am 100 certain that my brother lance is not the father to his wife karen's
01:17baby the big question why is paul so certain because he says lance had a vasectomy
01:23that'll do the job paul describes karen's disgusting whale that sleeps around even hearing a rumor
01:31even hearing a rumor that she might be a lady of the night he's here to tell he's here to tell lance
01:37wise up you're not the dad you need to leave her she's a waste of space paul is on the jeremy kyle show
01:42that way
01:50how are you sir all right very well thank you how are you fine good
01:54you've just seen morning i haven't actually spoken yet and somebody who's that
02:02that's karen and your brother they look happy why are you shouting out kaz why because he's a waste of
02:16space he needs to concentrate on his own life and his own kids not mine would it be all right to buy the
02:23chat with him before you start shouting
02:31i'm here today i haven't even asked you why you're here today welcome to the show uh now lance is your
02:37brother yes karen's his wife yes uh you you're here today because you say they're 18 month well her 18
02:46month old child is not his how do you know that because basically when he had his first child with
02:51his ex-partner apparently that he had a vasectomy so apparently he had a vasectomy were you there
02:57no i was so you don't know whether he had a vasectomy but it's actually were you there
03:02how shut up how can you how what who are you oh shut up pam you don't even know story
03:11who are you i'm paul's wife paul's wife this is brilliant tell them your name she doesn't even know
03:21i don't care she's been with him a couple of years i've been with labs 10 years he hasn't had a
03:26vasectomy at all you know rubbish karen please i don't care could you just sit down until i've had
03:33a go it is called the jeremy card i don't care no no no yes yes yes he's called him he's called him
03:41i haven't spoken i don't care please shall i just go then shall i just i want to know what your name
03:48is tell the audience it's pamela anderson ladies and gentlemen
03:55i'll get to you sit down and shut up why are you married to pamela anderson why are you getting
04:01involved in a vasectomy you weren't at because that's a superstar and that's a reliable woman you
04:06see shut up you lot get a job listen why are you how could work how do you know he had a
04:13busy i mean even if he did or he didn't why is it anything to do with you because he's my brother
04:19and as they say the family family stick together you've heard that she's disgusting and she might
04:24even be i love this phrase a lady of the night what does that mean shut up the thing is jeremy
04:32that she goes out yes socializing with other men really my brother's not allowed to go out he has
04:37to he has to stay at home look after the children yes while she goes after you say the baby looks
04:43nothing like him this guy needs to wise up and he can do better am i he said frankly um she's a whale
04:49yes what what do you mean by that well look at the size of each other which is in itself a bit rich
04:58and might explain in fact the whole story because you had a relationship with her before your brother
05:03didn't you no we had a friend did you have a relationship with oh generally oh she's back
05:12what she said she had an affair which is a liar maybe you don't like the fact she's with your
05:19brother despite the fact that you're with the baby watch no no no no no no no did you have sex with
05:24her no i didn't tell me no then to prove you haven't slept with me we asked you to do a lot of
05:30tips to prove that you didn't have sex with her and you refused
05:31you refused if you got a chance to nail it are you shut up it should have to prove because you're
05:39out here calling her every name under the sun you are out here saying the kid is not his and
05:44yet you will not substantiate what you're accused of which makes everybody think you're full of rubbish
05:50mate that's the truth you had a chance to nail it didn't you yeah how many times do you sleep with
05:58her i've never slept with her i don't believe you at all do a lie detector then why would you not
06:02because i because i don't need to you got something to hide paul i've got nothing to hide so so you've
06:10described her as a potential lady of the night a big fat mess and a whale who's basically a cheat
06:16who's basically she's basically she's a control freak lance is not the brother i used to know all
06:21them years ago did you have an affair with her while she was with lance or before no never right
06:27when were you friends with her before lance i've actually i've actually i've actually known i've
06:30actually known the family since caron was actually a youngster she says that you tried it on with
06:35the two weeks before she got betrothed to your brother no i never did no why did i say like that
06:39betrothed to your brother so you haven't had sex with her you think she's a whale yeah and you think
06:43she's a cheat and the kid ain't gonna be lances and today's about wise up lance leave this woman
06:48she's a waste of space this is going to be fun karen's on the jeremy karl show that way
07:01you need to rise up you need to rise up and let lance have his freedom back he has his freedom he can do
07:08what he wants yes he does what because i go to bingo a couple of nights a week whoopie do with my
07:13daughter oh when he doesn't go out and does what he wants during the day and i have his children
07:17there's always work isn't there during the day i'm a care to my eight-year-old son i didn't say that i
07:23said lads don't start on me he can't because he's got a medical reason why he can't and coming from a
07:29load of tests why are you shouting at me you said to my team he was terrible in bed yes he was why
07:47he was if he was so good why was i sleeping with his mate at the same time
08:02did you have safe sex no there is a story which i'd like you to share with the audience
08:07all i'm gonna say to you is the stairs yeah tell us
08:12that the one friday that he came out to my house slept with me and tied me to my stairs
08:19hold on hold on slow down slow down slept with you where on the stairs right
08:27and then what he tied me to my stairs said he was going to his car and left me there
08:32where were you tied to the rail you and you were naked just in a bra yeah
08:46so top half covered bottom half not how did you get out of your predicament
08:52because my next door like my daughter
08:57because i was there until my daughter came in from school the next door neighbor came
09:01round and found you tied to the banister in your bra yes with your bits hanging out and had to why
09:07didn't you go back why did you leave her there on the bannister it never happened you liar it never
09:13happened whatever you were sleeping precisely take a lie detector you can't even prove that you never slept
09:19with me i was sleeping with you from the organ who introduced you to lance then who i've known the
09:24family for years but he took me to his workplace why are you shouting at me you're the one who slept
09:31potentially with both brothers and some mate you're having a go at me i was single when i was sleeping
09:35with him you were also attached to a bannister star no kid that's not my fault either
09:39you said that when you met lance you realized that he was better than paul yeah he is and then why
09:49i'm two weeks before the wedding he came to my house and he was trying not on with me on the stairs
09:53not on the stairs not on the stairs no no i did not no i did not and you turned around and said
09:58no i did not don't get married and everything else yes you did no i did not karen hold on
10:02one small thing you're forgetting what's that shut up what did you say nothing you've only been with
10:12him a few years he was only telling his brother the other week that you two had split uh no i never yes
10:17yes you did because i messaged you and said i heard she did speak up pamela the three years right
10:24pamela speaking thank you dearest thank you jeremy get on with it time is money what back to number one
10:33karen i've been with paul for eight years okay can we get a move on love i am going on holiday in
10:44september point number one you've been with paul for eight years secondly i know for a fact paul
10:50not coming near you he doesn't need to because it was before i was with lance 11 years ago before
10:56before he met me so let me get this absolutely straight right let me get this straight you are
11:03here today to say that he is a liar yes he's questioning the paternity of my kid the kids you
11:09say he's definitely lances right so why is he doing these things is he jealous yeah he is jealous
11:14he wants you back no i don't after 11 years he won't summer i don't know what he was when he came
11:19back round two weeks before the wedding how did he try and seduce you try kissing me who's that
11:26who's that what that's it that's their mom that's my mom all right well love how are you she hasn't even
11:32bothered with the children either you're a liar karen i'm back when you cleaned your dirty house so
11:37we've got lance the brother of the bloke who's saying you're a hooker and the mother on a motor
11:42motor scooter that's all coming up this is the jeremy karl show i'm right back but then he's also slept with
11:47my mother yes he has because he said to me after he slept with the first time you're better than my
11:54mother there you go it's the best and last time you'll ever see him why would you say that
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12:35thank you very much indeed welcome to all the brave paul and karen so you're out to say brother lance
12:40you married a hooker frankly with the greatest of respect she's this she's that the kid ain't yours
12:44wise up you're outside hold on it's a bit rich the thing is jeremy you ask yourself this why would
12:50lance have doubts himself has he got doubts but why would he believe his brother if he's had a
12:56vasectomy he has another vasectomy he has another vasectomy oh no she's on the jeremy carl show that way
13:11you put that in my head could you hold on a minute could you hold on a minute to make
13:27this work for tv purposes cover me stand there could you do the bay watch run towards the stage
13:33this is all before he got with you this is why he was with you
13:48don't tell me to shut up you knew nothing yes have you ever said to me no i haven't given me
13:54what is that a circumcision it's different and that was
13:57i know it's different that was when i was pregnant i've only got one ball i know all about it
14:04why are you angry with me and why haven't you got the balls to come out here and talk for yourself
14:08as if you allow your wife to talk for you that's your brother
14:11is that she's doing me why would you think the kid's not yours
14:17do you talk to him paul at the end of the day you're another day older
14:22at the end of the day my 18-year-old baby yeah is mine 18 years old oh yeah 18 months old
14:29you've got doubts about the parental the further station
14:33stay anyway who's the dad yeah so have you told him you've got doubts
14:38yes i did yeah thank you well then why the hell wouldn't it oh come on love
14:43why have you stopped saying at the end of the blaming day why have you got
14:46no doubt oh my lord he'll put it in his head
15:01hey hey come here come here
15:05this entire show seems to now center on motorized scooters who are you
15:15i'm paul's man man's mom what's going why are you what what do you think of her
15:20she's a liar is she yeah how am i because you are karen how i'm not going to tell you about how
15:27come on tell me how i'll be good to explain why don't you tell lance the truth what about your
15:34children they're his both of them are are they yes they are all right why do you think they're
15:38not because i've been told they're not being told by who i'm not going to mention oh my god
15:45the thing is have you ever seen this baby no she's never
15:50every time we talk about him she changes the subject i don't want to know i don't want to know
15:55do you think paul slept with her no he did while he was with
16:00so why doesn't he take a lie detector yeah why doesn't he why don't why don't you as the mother
16:04make him take one why don't you say take a lie detector to prove to you that he hasn't slept with
16:08me at the end of the day mother yeah he's got something to hide that's why he's not doing a lie
16:12detector brilliant well done at the end of the day but then he's also slept with my mother
16:17no no no no no no when karen phoned out how do you know though because you weren't with him
16:35She wasn't even with him.
16:36And why are you going out with a woman
16:37that slept with your brother's, the next question.
16:43Have you slept with her?
16:45No way.
16:47I'm just asking.
16:48Why are you going out with a woman who slept with your brother?
16:50Because what, Karen Fuller was more interested in me than my brother.
16:54This started with you coming here to warn you,
16:56and you did admit, and this is important,
16:57you did admit that actually you had mentioned to Paul
17:01on a couple of occasions that you have doubts.
17:03So that's going to fuel what you're saying.
17:04A lot of people watching this will think
17:06it's because you've got a problem with her.
17:07How sure are you that the kid is Lance's?
17:101000%.
17:10Can we see the baby?
17:13That'd be good, wouldn't it,
17:14if you actually did something on this show?
17:15Oh.
17:16There you go.
17:16It's the first and last time you'll ever see him.
17:18Why would she say that?
17:19I don't want to.
17:20Because she's not bothered with him
17:21as he 18 months has been born.
17:22Because he is.
17:23Because she didn't even get excited when I got pregnant.
17:26Karen.
17:28When you found...
17:28It's not Karen.
17:30It's Karen.
17:31I'm trying to say, I've got a sore throat.
17:32Speak English.
17:33I've got a very sore throat.
17:34Japanese?
17:35Excuse me.
17:36You have respect for this lady.
17:37I've got a sore throat.
17:38You have respect for this lady.
17:39He didn't even care that he was an off-bottom last week.
17:42You have respect for this lady, if you don't mind.
17:44Do I?
17:44Why don't you have respect for me then?
17:46Do I?
17:46Well, you haven't got much respect for his wife.
17:48Have you been calling her a prostitute on national television?
17:52I've been calling her for 10 years.
17:54I was with my ex-partner for seven.
17:56And my partner before that for seven years.
17:59Stop shouting.
17:59I've had three decent men.
18:01Stop shouting.
18:02Why am I a prostitute?
18:03Stop shouting.
18:04I want to know.
18:05How can you not do any...
18:07A lie detector?
18:07Without that, why?
18:08Why is this...
18:09Oi!
18:09If that grandchild is, Lance is, you haven't been involved.
18:13That's not good.
18:14I don't want to be.
18:14Can I do the DNA?
18:16How sure are you then?
18:17A thousand percent!
18:18Why are you shouting at me still?
18:21How sure are you, Lance?
18:22A thousand percent.
18:23Sorry?
18:24A thousand percent.
18:25Because he believes me now that it is his.
18:27How sure are you that the kid isn't her?
18:30Not a chance.
18:31She's a hundred percent sure the kid's somebody else's, yeah?
18:34Well, who else is it then?
18:35Well, you slept with the mate.
18:36You slept with the brothers.
18:37I don't know.
18:38Was there any other man in the house?
18:39Before I got with Lance, yeah.
18:41I don't care who you slept with.
18:42I just want to lie down in a dark room on me own.
18:44How sure are you that he's not the father?
18:47And he did tell you he had doubts, right?
18:49Yes, he did, yeah.
18:50Come on!
18:50I'd say about 89 percent.
18:5289 percent.
18:53And what's 89 percent?
18:5689 percent.
18:57The thing is...
18:58Where does the 11 percent come into it?
19:01The possibility is he might not be.
19:03Okay.
19:06Right, okay, I'm waiting for this.
19:08And if you say, please let me finish, instead of give me an answer,
19:10I also will hit the wall.
19:11How sure are you that the kid is not Lance's?
19:15Pam?
19:16I have no idea.
19:18No, because you don't.
19:19Well, still, I've been told.
19:22Everybody's been told.
19:23What do people know?
19:24There's proof.
19:25I've been told there was proof.
19:27Written proof.
19:28Did he have a vasectomy, your son?
19:30The father.
19:31Whatever.
19:31I was told.
19:32What?
19:32But he hasn't had a vasectomy.
19:33I was told.
19:34You were told.
19:34Did anybody go with him to it?
19:36No.
19:37Who did you go to the vasectomy?
19:38Who did you know you?
19:38Who did you go to the vasectomy with?
19:40I didn't have a vasectomy.
19:41I went to my doctor's for a, I had a hernia operation, plus I was also circumcised.
19:48Somewhat?
19:49Circumcision and everything.
19:50Oh, right, okay.
19:50No, fair enough.
19:51That's good.
19:51That's all he's had.
19:52He hasn't had a vasectomy.
19:53So you think your brother had a, what?
19:55He said a vasectomy then.
19:56A vasectomy.
19:57A vasectomy, but he had a circumcision.
19:59You say the baby's yours.
20:00If you're right, what, what, if it isn't your kid, what happens to your relationship?
20:05Well, we're still, well, we're making for it.
20:08But it is his.
20:09It is his.
20:09All right, it.
20:11What about you?
20:12What if you're wrong and she's telling the truth?
20:14Why don't you then button your mouth and go and get on with your own life?
20:16I do, I do, I do, I do, I do, I do, yeah.
20:20Why don't you start your own children out?
20:22Excuse me, thank you.
20:24Excuse me, I do start my children out.
20:25Not by your own children, I do start my children out.
20:27Which is also nothing like your own children.
20:28You can't have this result show that Lance, how sure were you?
20:33Because Lance is the child's biological father.
20:36Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, nothing to do with you.
20:42Nothing at all.
20:43Ten years has been going on for.
20:46Calm down.
20:47The last time you see him, don't other, ever, ever, ever, come knocking on my door.
20:52Ever.
20:53Ever.
20:54You lot decide to throw stuff at her, which for whatever reason, probably because of false gossip,
20:59is not right.
21:00They have every right to be together.
21:02It's their kids.
21:03And I suspect you should keep your nose in your own business from now on.
21:07So I think.
21:13Why aren't you two apologising to me?
21:16See me with my children.
21:17Yes, I have.
21:18No, you haven't.
21:18You've seen me with my aldean.
21:20Yes, I have.
21:20Why don't you apologise to them for making it up, pal, because you got it wrong.
21:24I think what's really interesting as we finish, because I've got to move on, is that you,
21:34Madam Gobby, out of all of this, I reckon he'd fail a lie detector.
21:38He will.
21:39I think you should be trying to fuck.
21:40Well, why don't you do one, then, to prove you haven't had sex with her.
21:43Because I know I haven't.
21:44Do one, then.
21:44Yeah, sure you haven't.
21:45Prove.
21:45Prove.
21:46Prove.
21:46Prove to go on, man.
21:46Congratulations, you were telling the truth.
21:48Well done.
21:48Are you going to try and see this baby?
21:50No.
21:51Baby's your grandchild.
21:52I don't care.
21:53Then I put you in the same category as them.
21:55I don't care.
21:55People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
21:58Congratulations.
21:59You go there, you go there.
22:00Give him a round of applause.
22:01Back after the break.
22:02Chantelle was with John.
22:03Yes.
22:04Did you always want him for yourself?
22:05Let me call it, Nick!
22:11They're calling, calling, blaming me for all that...
22:16stories!
22:25Thank you very much, Annie.
22:26Welcome back.
22:27My next guest today, Ali, is here to confront her sister, Chantelle,
22:30who she says is trying to ruin her relationship.
22:32It's here that I should tell you that Ali's partner, John,
22:35also happens to be Chantelle's ex-partner.
22:38Yeah, that's right.
22:38So, both sisters have been with the same man.
22:41Now, Ali says that Chantelle is so jealous of her relationship
22:43she should do whatever it takes to split them up
22:45and has even spread vicious and malicious lies
22:47that Ali is a cheat.
22:48She says it's obvious that her sister is still madly in love with John,
22:51but today she needs to get over it and leave him alone.
22:54It's a big day.
22:54Ali's on the Jeremy Carr show that way.
22:57CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
22:58You all right?
23:04Yes.
23:04Welcome to the show.
23:06Two sisters, one bloke.
23:07What's he got that the rest of us haven't?
23:09I don't know.
23:10What?
23:10I don't know.
23:11Well, tell me later.
23:12Welcome to the show.
23:14You're engaged, John.
23:15Yeah.
23:15Chantelle, she's stepsister.
23:17Yeah.
23:18Let's just have a bit of history.
23:20So, you're...
23:21How old are you?
23:22I'm 31.
23:23You know your age.
23:24Well done.
23:24And so, years ago, well, I don't know how long ago,
23:28actually, Chantelle was with John.
23:29Yeah, she was, yeah.
23:30She got with John and they split up.
23:32Well, hold on a minute.
23:33She got with them, they split up.
23:34How long were they together?
23:35A month.
23:38LAUGHTER
23:38You describe your sister as somebody who goes from one man to the next,
23:45which is probably highly why this guy did a runner.
23:49Yeah, she...
23:50Did you always want him for yourself?
23:51I didn't know who he was.
23:52He just added me on Facebook.
23:53And it said that she was a mutual friend.
23:57Well, let's just be honest.
23:59Apparently, why you find this all so particularly weird
24:01is that they lasted a month,
24:04you hooked up with him,
24:05and it was her who encouraged it, didn't she?
24:07Yeah, she got us together.
24:08She came on when I first met him.
24:10She came with me.
24:11Hold on a minute.
24:11Hold on a minute.
24:12Hold on a minute.
24:12Hold on a minute.
24:13This is weird.
24:14So, your sister...
24:15Your sister goes out with a bloke.
24:18He dumps her and she goes,
24:20oh, I'll tell you what,
24:21I'll introduce him to my sister.
24:23And so happy will I be for my sister
24:25to sleep with my ex-boyfriend,
24:26I'll come on the date with them.
24:28Yeah.
24:28She...
24:29F***ing date.
24:30She came along and...
24:31Look at her.
24:32Liar!
24:32Liar, liar, liar, liar, liar!
24:49Pants on fire, fire, fire, fire, fire!
24:53Lose the picture, Matthew.
24:54Lose it.
24:56Lose it.
24:57Lose the picture, Matthew.
24:58She's now trying to split you up.
24:59Why?
25:00Yeah, I don't know.
25:01I think she still wants him back, to be fair.
25:03Do you?
25:03You say, I'm not sure where these rumours
25:05and lies are coming from,
25:06but it's being put about
25:07that you're cheating on John.
25:08Yeah, that's right.
25:08Are you cheating on John?
25:09No, I'm not.
25:09No.
25:10Would you ever do...
25:10How long have you been with him?
25:11A month and a half?
25:12Three months.
25:13Nearly three months, yeah.
25:14Three times as long.
25:15You're engaged.
25:17Yeah.
25:17That's lovely.
25:17When are you getting married?
25:19We said about two years.
25:20Well, if it goes wrong,
25:21you know where to come.
25:22Can I just say,
25:24is John believing a victim?
25:29You've been causing this.
25:30You either choose between me
25:31or your stupid f***ing fiancé.
25:32I'm not choosing.
25:36And you can go back in the f***ing kennel.
25:41You think she's trying to split you up
25:42because you think that she's still in love with John,
25:44basically.
25:44He's very happy with you.
25:45He doesn't want to be with anybody else.
25:47Has she got a boyfriend?
25:51Yeah.
25:52What's he called?
25:52David.
25:53You say, I don't think she loves David.
25:54She's a player who goes from man to man.
25:56She'll dump him.
25:57So, she won't be my maid of honour.
25:59I should think she won't.
26:00No.
26:01She'd be trying to do the groom,
26:03I would imagine.
26:06Who's Beryl, by the way?
26:08Partner's mum.
26:09Oh, the lady in the white socks.
26:10Anyway, so your sister says,
26:13I'm here to warn Ali, right,
26:15away from him.
26:16He's a control freak
26:17and he's no good in...
26:18Is he any good in bed?
26:19He's all right.
26:20He's all right.
26:22We're on national television.
26:24Oh, shut up.
26:25Right, let's get her out.
26:26Chantal's on the Jeremy Carl Show that way.
26:36Welcome to the show, Chantal.
26:38Ali's sister.
26:39So, you were with him, Big John.
26:41Mm-hmm.
26:43He was rubbish.
26:43Rubbish of what?
26:44In bed.
26:46Why?
26:47Why?
26:48He likes the lady to do all the work.
26:50He does no movement.
26:51He does no movement?
26:53He does no movement.
26:53I know what that is.
26:54That's tantric sex.
26:57I'm here to warn my sister away from him.
26:59Well, why?
26:59Are you jealous of them?
27:01Speak, woman!
27:01Ali, come on!
27:02No, I'm not jealous.
27:04Well, you look very jealous.
27:05Why are you telling John
27:06that I'm cheating on him?
27:07That's the only reason I've done that lie detector test.
27:08I didn't say that.
27:08Yes.
27:09That's what I've been told.
27:10That it's all come from you.
27:11No.
27:12That you're the one spreading it.
27:13No.
27:13You went up to him and told him I was all the high...
27:15You admitted it in your notes that you have made those rumours up, didn't you?
27:19Come on!
27:19I have made those rumours.
27:21Yeah, and I've been told on you to come and do a test.
27:23Why would you do that?
27:26And you did come on the first date in the pub when I first...
27:29Why would you go on a date with your ex-boyfriend and your sister?
27:33Because you still want him, don't you?
27:35Then why are you trying to split us up?
27:37It's your boyfriend was trying to split me and my boyfriend up.
27:41We haven't spoke to you for weeks, for about a week.
27:44Who is the woman in...
27:45Where are you going now?
27:46Well, that didn't last very long, did it?
27:51Chantel, can you get back here, please?
27:54Oh, that's Stephanie from the aftercare department.
27:56Come on, hurry up.
27:57Time is money.
27:58What?
27:59Mate, you have to speak.
28:00I don't even know why we're doing this.
28:02You're with John.
28:02You're happy.
28:03Why are you doing a lie detector?
28:04Because she's been spreading rumours saying I'm cheating.
28:06Why is she doing a lie detector?
28:08I don't know.
28:09Who the hell is Beryl?
28:10Why isn't John here?
28:12What's my name?
28:13Oh, you're back.
28:14Brilliant.
28:14Give her a round of applause.
28:16What was that all about?
28:23You've lost your sisterly relationship because of this bloke.
28:26What's going on?
28:28You're jealous, aren't you?
28:29I'm not jealous.
28:30You look jealous.
28:31Why would I be jealous when I've got a perfect boyfriend?
28:33Why are you just spreading rumours saying I'm cheating?
28:34Who's your perfect boyfriend?
28:36David.
28:37Who's David?
28:38God, you look happy as well.
28:40What's the matter with you?
28:41Are you all right, Dave?
28:46Not too much.
28:48Why did...
28:49So you are going out with Chantel?
28:51Yeah.
28:52Are you happy about that?
28:53Yep.
28:54How long have you been with Chantel?
28:56Three weeks.
28:57She doesn't go...
29:01You've only got about seven days left then, mate.
29:04Oh, you've smiled.
29:05Good.
29:06You don't...
29:06You don't seem to have very long relationships.
29:09She said, I'm very happy with my boyfriend.
29:10You've only been with him 21 days, which by even the Jeremy Carl show stanzas isn't great.
29:15Why are we doing this?
29:17Can somebody help me out?
29:19I'll tell you what I'm going to do.
29:20I'm going to bring your boyfriend.
29:21This is the man that you used to have sex with, but you said he was...
29:24Shut up, Beryl and the White Sox.
29:27We're going to bring it each time.
29:29I'm going to learn from this man because...
29:31And I've made enough on him!
29:34Who is she?
29:35Is that your mother?
29:36Yeah, it does.
29:37Hmm.
29:40Smiled at...
29:41The man in the middle who's at both the sisters, the dirty boy.
29:46John's on the Jeremy Carl show that way!
29:53You know, like what I said, Chantel, I didn't torture you hardly with a ten-foot bar pole.
30:00Sorry?
30:00At least I don't sit on the floor so you've got to go back in your cage.
30:03Whenever we go to the burger bar, he sits on the floor like a dog because he is a dog.
30:06Whenever we go to the burger bar, he sits on the floor like a dog.
30:10Any more?
30:11I feel like I'm in a parallel universe.
30:13You can't show me in my...
30:15Hello?
30:17How did...
30:17What's that?
30:18How do you manage to pull all these women...
30:20Shut up in the White Sox!
30:22I did went out with Chantel.
30:25Shush, Beryl.
30:26Beryl.
30:30Right, Beryl's on the Jeremy Carl show.
30:32I'm out of time, not for you!
30:42They're fucking good blaming me for all the f***ing stories!
30:48No!
30:48And it's not me, it's you!
30:51It's been you as well.
30:53And Chantel.
30:54And Chantel.
30:55I got bought in Chantel as well!
30:58No, because she's playing around the car and I can't...
31:00I'm not getting caught in a f***ing...
31:02I'm going to go to another lad.
31:03No more!
31:04Don't you?
31:04What did you just say?
31:06What did he call you?
31:07A f***ing...
31:08That's many f***ing...
31:09Could you...
31:11Could you...
31:11Could you just...
31:12Could you sit down?
31:14Beryl!
31:15Beryl!
31:16Beryl!
31:17Dear!
31:17Ooh!
31:17Ooh!
31:17Ooh!
31:24Thank you, Peter!
31:29Ooh!
31:31Don't move!
31:32Don't touch what you can't afford, Beryl.
31:35I can!
31:35I'm slightly scared, Bess.
31:38Right, anyway, so John...
31:39No, that's David, that's your son.
31:40He doesn't look very happy, does he?
31:42No!
31:42Why is he not?
31:43Because of him?
31:44Yeah.
31:44Chantel, why are you doing a test?
31:46Help me out, please, because nobody's saying a word.
31:47Well, so he said when I was going out with him, I was cheating.
31:49What, was she?
31:50Yeah.
31:50No, I was not.
31:51But you slept with two sisters, you dirty b...
31:53I didn't slept with Chantel because my...
31:54You didn't slept with what?
31:56I didn't slept with Chantel because her mum...
31:58Can't even get your words out straight.
31:59Why?
32:00All right, just explain to me, you're with Chantel for a month.
32:02Why?
32:02Chantel, why did you split up?
32:06She was holding hands with other people.
32:09You've only been together a month!
32:11And then she...
32:12She said you were no good in bed.
32:13She was saying no controlling her and I wasn't.
32:15You was?
32:16At all.
32:16No, because I told her if she wants to go and see her family, she can do it.
32:21Marvellously generous of you.
32:23She said that you weren't very good in bed.
32:25I didn't even slept with her.
32:27You did...
32:27You liar!
32:29No, I didn't.
32:30I had to get myself checked because of you.
32:32What?
32:32You're saying he gave you an STI?
32:37No, but you could have done.
32:39So could everyone else that you slept with?
32:41All the women you keep sleeping with?
32:42Your sister says the amount of men you slept with that many lads.
32:46How many lads has she slept with?
32:48Everybody seems to have a lot of sex on this day.
32:50You had a lot of sex, Daryl.
32:51You had a lot of sex, Daryl.
32:51That many people.
32:51No, you're not.
32:53I'm only here to prove to him I haven't cheated because you've been spreading rumours about.
32:58I was going to use a different word, but yeah.
32:59Rumours about me.
33:00Why have you done that to your sister?
33:01And you've already admitted that you've spreaded it about me.
33:03I haven't spreaded anything.
33:04Don't lie to him that you did.
33:06You just admitted you out.
33:08I know I'm losing the plot and I'm 52, but you said not 15.
33:11Stop laughing at me.
33:12I'm not laughing at you.
33:14I quite like to be told off by you, but that's another story.
33:20I will tell you off.
33:22Go on then.
33:22And I'm going to.
33:24Go on then.
33:25If we don't get this lot sorted out.
33:27And it's like what I say.
33:29I don't want you.
33:30Because I've had enough of this lot of trouble.
33:33The thing is, it's nothing to do with you.
33:35It's hers.
33:35I don't want you to.
33:36I've been brought into it.
33:38Because you turned round and told.
33:39And I've said nothing wrong about you.
33:42No, Beryl, you turned round and said that Ali was holding hands with another lad.
33:46No, I did not say that.
33:48Yes, you did.
33:49I did not.
33:50She did not.
33:51And even you said it.
33:52So it must have been you then.
33:53I didn't say anything.
33:54Don't lie.
33:55They only look like you were holding hands.
33:56I said, do not lie.
33:58I said she was in the pub.
34:01Holding hands.
34:02No.
34:02Yes.
34:03You got the wrong end of the stick.
34:05No.
34:06Yes, you.
34:07Let go, let go, let go.
34:09That's the other end of the stick.
34:10You said it first and then Chantelle and then your son said it.
34:21You don't like him much, do you?
34:22No.
34:23How close friends are you, Beryl?
34:25How close friends are you and your son?
34:27Because you know what you've done to me.
34:30You've made me, Chantelle, I lost you as a friend.
34:35No, she didn't.
34:36You and your son.
34:37That's because you slept with two sisters, you dirty boy.
34:39You didn't say that.
34:40Before Chantelle, before Chantelle came in your son's life,
34:45we were like that.
34:46I was helping you and your son.
34:48Yes, will you please report me, Andy?
34:50Now, Chantelle.
34:51No, yeah.
34:51Don't you want to be here?
34:53Yes, I do.
34:54Now, Chantelle.
34:55Especially with you.
34:56I lost you and your son as my friend.
35:00All right, if you had to pick me or Steve, who's it going to be?
35:02Yes.
35:05Why do I look so happy?
35:09Okay, don't rub your hands like that.
35:10You're frightening me.
35:11So, what?
35:12I will frighten you.
35:14Shut up.
35:15I'm just being chatted up by an older woman.
35:17It's a bit quiet.
35:18Thank you, darling.
35:19You would frighten me a little bit.
35:20No, I would not.
35:21I'm very gentle to you.
35:23Because I watch you show every day, and I love you for it.
35:28Oh!
35:31You're nice.
35:37I think we could have something quite special.
35:39Yes, we can.
35:41Let's go and do it, then.
35:42Yes.
35:43so, to prove that you haven't cheated on him because of rumours you've spread.
36:08Why are you doing a lie detector to prove that you didn't cheat on him while you were with him?
36:12Why does it matter you're not with him anymore? You're with old happy man over there. What's he called?
36:15He was the one who wanted me to do one. I didn't want you to do one
36:19But like what I said Chantel. Are you in love with Ali? Yeah. Do you want to be back with Chantel? No
36:26I don't want to at all. You say my relationship to the train wreck. Look at yours. No, it isn't
36:30Look at yours darling
36:32I don't want yeah, maybe their relationship would be better if and if you kept your bleeding nose out of their business
36:38Now
36:46If you don't want us to be together, why did you encourage us to be together you saw on the bottles together?
36:51I think it was bluff. I think it was a chance for her to see him again
36:54I think now you're trying to split us up
36:56You can't say you can't because you don't know it controls you
37:08So you wanted to prove to our big bad Johnny that you weren't cheating on him when you were together
37:13We are Chantel during your relationship with John. Did you have sexual intercourse only for four weeks by the way?
37:18She would have been a book of paper about that. It wasn't four weeks. It was three weeks by the way
37:23You're gone tomorrow mate
37:26During your relationship with John did you have sexual intercourse with anyone else? Chantel said no. Why did you say no?
37:30No, because it's true. She was telling the truth. She didn't cheat on you
37:40During your relationship with John did you have sexual contact with anyone else that's anything from a kiss to intercourse you said no and you would say
37:45In fact, she was telling the truth on every single person
37:47That ain't your pipe and smoke it
37:59Right
38:03What we're really here for is to prove that Ali hasn't cheated on John because you've been spreading malicious rumors backed up by Beryl
38:11We asked Ali oh since the start of your relationship with John. Have you had sexual intercourse with anyone else? She said absolutely not
38:17Why did you say that she was telling the truth as well?
38:25Your sister was telling the truth that every single question
38:35Let up be are you going now? Yeah, well lovely seeing you. Thanks very much for coming
38:41So you're happy with her you're happy with him or just for a couple more hours because the three weeks is up
38:45You'll be gone Beryl's gonna go off with me to my dressing room
38:48You don't have to have anything to do with your sister and everybody's fine. Is that all right? You go that way you go that way
38:53Beryl you come with me
38:58My auntie spoke to my mom and said that he could be one of my potential fathers
39:02No, I didn't have any idea at all. No, I was never told by anybody. I never uh
39:06Do you not even remember sleeping with her mother?
39:08No, I can't remember brilliant. The question is
39:12Is this guy your biological father a man that you met perchance via Facebook in the pub the DNA test results show that Michael?
39:24It's getting worse yes, I need your help, and I'm not leaving this stage till I get your help
39:28I want my life back
39:31Give me the chance to prove you're wrong. I mean it. Give me a chance to prove you're wrong. I want to see I want me kid
39:37I'm gonna burn
39:39My name is Emma
39:41And I believe I'm your daughter
39:44This is my last chance
39:47I've always thought about you getting cocked up
39:51She got her full house
39:53She got her full house
39:54She got her full house
39:57She's your grandchild
40:00You can sort this, okay?
40:01I promise you
40:02Listen, it's alright
40:04He wants to be a dad
40:05He wants to have a relationship with his child
40:08He's your dad!
40:09He wants to be a child
40:11You will today go to a room
40:13You are the child
40:14You are the child
40:19I mean it, alright?
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40:49You might just recognise from a previous encounter
41:00Take a look at this, my friends
41:01You say there is no way biologically in any which way that you can be Patricia's father
41:08She is not my daughter
41:10Right
41:11Well, he took my childhood away from me
41:12As soon as that comes out and it proves
41:16What?
41:17What?
41:18And it will prove that I am not Patricia's dad
41:21Who is then?
41:22What is it then, Dad?
41:23Go on, you're meant to be my so-called father
41:25Let's get her out
41:26Patricia's on the Jeremy Kyle Show
41:27That's right
41:28You took me from my childhood
41:32They are causing me
41:33You did
41:34You took my care was allowed off me left wing
41:36The DNA test results show
41:40That Ian
41:42Is not her biological
41:44So what's that outside of the cheaters?
41:47You're a liar you two
41:48And do you know what?
41:49I
41:50To her darlings
41:52People are using you
41:53Can I have it please?
41:54Now understandably Patricia was upset she can get the answer she was looking for
41:59However, she refused to give up and is back today with Michael
42:02A man she's been told actually could be her dad's big day for her
42:06Patricia
42:07We said we'd clear it up
42:08Back on the Jeremy Kyle Show
42:09That way
42:10I know you're nervous and last time was difficult and I really appreciate you coming back
42:23But I want to point out to people watching that you wanted to do this you want to get answers
42:26And it's a commitment that we make you know people don't just come here and not find out the truth
42:31We try to do as much as we can
42:34I'm just talking about the last show
42:36For you let's forget about the arguments it must have been really difficult you were led to believe this guy was your dad
42:42Actually as it turned out this was a man who brought you up for years
42:45Your auntie and uncle not your auntie and uncle but had made their point
42:49What was the feeling after the show did you not feel sorry for this guy?
42:52I didn't feel sorry I didn't feel really anything I mean I think grateful for what he's done
42:57I was more relieved that I got the answer that I wanted
43:01Because obviously he did tell my family that he was my father
43:04My auntie my other auntie told me that he was as well
43:09Let's talk about why you're back here today
43:12We made that commitment to try and get you answers tell me about Michael
43:15Well I've met him once which was last year
43:18My mum my auntie spoke to my mum and said that he could be one of my potential fathers
43:25There was obviously another person but we don't know his last name
43:28You met him in a pub it was awkward he was shifty
43:30And and to be fair to this guy he said to us
43:32I didn't really want to get close until I could get definitive answers
43:36What does today let's talk about you let's take it out of everybody argue
43:39What does today mean to you as a young lady?
43:42It means a lot to know if I do get the right answers obviously if I don't then it's another thing really to try and find out who is my dad
43:50What's this done to your relationship with your mother?
43:52Me and my mother don't get on at all
43:55So here's a young 18 year old girl out here in the big wide world trying to find out her father with no help but from this show
44:01And I promise you one thing I hope you get the answer you want today
44:03But whether you do or not we'll keep going because I think it's really really important
44:07Do you want this guy to be your dad?
44:12I've only met him once obviously so I don't know a lot about him
44:16To be fair he didn't make any hassle about coming here
44:19Yeah exactly I mean he did want the DNA as well as much as I did
44:22He said that he'd do it just so obviously I've got the closure if he is or if he isn't
44:27Do you know this guy told my team today until you walked into that pub
44:31He had absolutely no idea that he could have a kid out there
44:34So you know you can sit here and say should he have known should he have been told
44:38My only concern is you you said that one of the things is that you're really worried you'll never get to the bottom of this
44:44I'm here to tell you you will alright and I really hope that today
44:47This guy 43 year old Michael is the answer to your questions alright darling let's get him out
44:53Michael's on the Jeremy Kyle show that way
44:55Thank you very much indeed
45:06Um let's talk about that Mike um and I'm not gonna go at all
45:09I was shocked when Patricia got in touch with me about being a dad I was overwhelmed no idea at all
45:14No I didn't have any idea at all no I was never told by anybody I never
45:18I know I'm not having a go at you I'm just asking you do you not even remember sleeping with her mother
45:21No I can't remember
45:23Brilliant I mean not brilliant but quite shockingly not brilliant
45:26Certainly
45:27That's quite honest though
45:28So a year ago to pub
45:30How was it that you two met in a pub?
45:32What happened was a friend of mine on my Facebook
45:35Oh yes
45:36Can't remember the name right now but she gave Patricia my details saying that I could
45:41I don't know how she knew this but
45:44You tell my team I have no kids but I've always wanted them
45:46Yeah
45:47So if Patricia is mine as I thought I'd passed that age of being able to enjoy that it will mean the world to me
45:53Yeah
45:54I like your approach though and I'm not having a go at anybody
45:57I quite like the fact because a lot of people dive in straight away and they come on this stage and they don't have any proof
46:01And they've already moved in together and bonded and all that
46:04You've deliberately kept a distance can I ask you the obvious question if you've known there was a chance this kid was yours
46:08Why haven't you done anything about it in the last year?
46:10Seriously
46:11I don't really know how to explain that to you Jeremy
46:16I just
46:18I didn't know if it was true or not
46:21I was like
46:22I like your honesty mate and I'm not going to have a go at you too
46:24When you sit here now knowing that this is about to be discovered to be told
46:28What do you feel like?
46:30Erm
46:31Yeah, I feel alright
46:32I mean I'm
46:33It'd be good for her if I am because she's
46:37She's been trying to get the
46:39I think that's what it's about isn't it?
46:41It's about
46:42It's about a kid who deserves the truth
46:45And I hope you get what you want today
46:47Alright sweetheart I really appreciate you coming back
46:48Thank you very much indeed
46:49As ever
46:50The question is
46:51Is this guy your biological father?
46:54A man who didn't even know that there was a chance
46:57A man that you met perchance via Facebook in the pub
47:00The DNA test results show that Michael
47:05I'm sorry darling he's not your biological father
47:09Erm
47:10I'm going to say the first thing because I'm going to deal with you absolutely I promise you
47:13I absolutely respect you for coming here straight away to do this and I think that's an awful lot
47:18And I mean that
47:19Alright
47:20I've been told on Monday you know
47:22I've been told you
47:23Thank you
47:24Alright you okay
47:25Alright then you erm
47:26I'm sorry mate
47:27I'm sorry mate
47:28I'm sorry mate
47:29No you alright yeah?
47:30It's fine
47:31Bless you
47:32Thanks mate you go that way
47:33Give him a round of applause
47:34Erm
47:35No good boy
47:36I know
47:41But I promise you
47:42I've done this
47:43I did this last year with a young man
47:44And it took five attempts
47:46But we got him the truth
47:47Okay?
47:48Every resource I've got
47:49Every bit of information you can give us
47:51We'll get you with the team
47:52We will get you the truth
47:53That is the commitment
47:54So I'm sorry
47:55I'm sorry
47:56I'm sorry
47:57Give a round of applause
47:58Thank you very much indeed
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