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00:00Hello, everyone. I'm Dana Perino, along with Katie Tablage, Jessica Tarlov, Charlie Hurt and Greg Gutfeld.
00:06It's five o'clock in New York City, and this is The Five.
00:16We are not the same. The Trump White House is putting Chris Van Hollen on blast with a split
00:21screen. On one side, President Trump meeting with the mom of Rachel Morin, the Maryland mother,
00:27who was raped and murdered by an illegal immigrant from El Salvador. And on the other side,
00:32the Democratic senator from that same state who jetted off to El Salvador and sat face to face
00:37with suspected MS-13 gang member Kilmar Abrego Garcia. Senator Van Hollen is now back on American
00:44soil and telling reporters this. It's good to be home. Now we need to end the illegal abduction of
00:54Kilmar Abrego Garcia and bring him home too. If you deny the constitutional rights of one man,
01:02you threaten the constitutional rights and due process for everyone else in America. The Trump
01:09administration is asserting a right to stash away residents of this country in foreign prisons
01:16without the semblance of due process. He was moved to another detention center
01:21in Santa Ana. Where the conditions are better, put up in court or shut up.
01:31As for the margaritas, the El Salvadorian president says they were sipping Van Hollen has this explanation.
01:36About what I would call Margaritagate. Nobody drank any margaritas or sugar water or whatever it is.
01:45But this is a lesson into the lengths that President Bukele will do to deceive people
01:52about what's going on. And it's also shows the lengths that the Trump administration,
01:58the president will go to, because when he was asked about a reporter about this,
02:02he just went along for the ride. So the White House and the president had been lying about this case
02:10from the beginning. President Trump says Van Hollen, quote,
02:13looked like a fool for meeting Garcia and later said this at the White House.
02:18He's a fake. I know him. I know them all. They're all fake. And they have no interest in that prisoner.
02:24That prisoner's record is unbelievably bad. Not a very, not a very innocent guy.
02:30So Van Hollen stuck around, Greg, because he was first denied a chance to meet with him.
02:34And then he got the meeting he was after.
02:36It was one of the most heroic moments I've ever seen. You know, I've been doing the news for 50,
02:4160 years. It's amazing. I remember the beer summit between Obama and Henry Louis Gates.
02:47This was the barf summit. People are talking about the margarita. I get it. But that's like debating
02:52the type of iceberg that the Titanic hit. You know, if you hadn't pushed for this ridiculous stunt
02:58using this thug as a prop, sorry, you can't complain if we turned it into a more absurd joke.
03:06You know, your photo op was ruined by a margarita. We don't care. Again, this is all downstream
03:12from the real and original sin, the Dems' abdication of the border. You let him in,
03:19our job to ship him out. We're cleaning up the mess you made. Again, the legal argument above my
03:25pay grade. I refuse to use this beautiful brain of mine on some solitary, violent creep out of
03:34billions on the planet, Dana. I have a family. I have a dog. I have a job. I have friends,
03:39co-workers. I have high cholesterol. He doesn't deserve a spot in my brain. And he can't jump to
03:47the front of the line just because he convinced the left that he's father of the freaking year.
03:52Just because you're dating a dirtbag doesn't mean I have to like his pictures on Instagram.
03:57And the fact that Trump has to waste his time on this scum, this is what the Dems do. They choose
04:02one anecdote, one solitary person, and expect you to play their fake game of concern. I won't. Again,
04:10I don't care. You want to make this about due process? That's fine. Maybe try to pick an example
04:16that is more appealing. Like an actual American, perhaps. I will finish shortly, but I'm a little
04:22mad. Not really. The Dems always make one anecdote really important without processing whether it has
04:32any connection to the greater whole. Here you have a victim of a murder and a rape, Rachel Mooring.
04:39Everybody at home looks at her and goes, that could be my sister.
04:41That could be my mother. That could be my daughter. What do the Dems offer? A gangbanger.
04:49Nobody at home is going, oh, that could be my husband, my son. Oh, my brother, the MS-13 wife
04:58beater. It doesn't see that you pick the wrong example. You know, we didn't say we're going to
05:05take Rachel. You take the gangbanger. You chose that option yourself. And you've done it before.
05:09You've done it with Hamas. You've done it with BLM. You did it with Antifa. You did it with looters.
05:15You did it with... I could go on. This is the sunk cost fallacy of the Democrats.
05:21They can't admit that they picked the wrong person. Or else, you know, they could turn around,
05:28they could turn back, but they can't. Just find a better example and we'll listen.
05:32But you know what? I'm not interested in the legal argument. I'm interested in getting criminals out.
05:37I'm not going to waste any more breath on this guy. Well, those are good breaths and
05:41the high cholesterol will get better. Yes. I was supposed to put on statin stain and I feel great.
05:48Slight diarrhea, but that's okay. Yeah. I mean, what's new? Yeah. What is new? It's Friday.
05:53Everybody that is listening to me, could you pull up that Hillary Clinton tweet, please,
05:58or post? I want to read this to Charlie Hurt because I know he's dying to talk about Hillary Clinton.
06:03Before the election, I warned there is no safe haven under authoritarianism.
06:07If they can ship Kilmar Abrego Garcia to a foreign prison, accused of no crime, with no trial,
06:14they can do it to anyone. Americans of conscience must stand against this now. Charlie?
06:20This is a fantasy world they're living in and they, you know, you can talk about the legal stuff.
06:25I think that they're wrong on the legal arguments and we can talk about that all. But I agree with
06:29Greg, nobody cares about that. What they care about is you have the Democrat party literally
06:34becoming the party of importing illegal aliens. And not only that, but illegal aliens who are
06:41gangbangers and illegal aliens who are gangbangers. Oh, and also beat his wife. It's insane.
06:47What do you want?
06:48Right. This is political suicide. And if you go back, remember the dreamers? Does everybody
06:53remember the dreamers? The dreamers used to be the edge case that we would talk about.
06:57And it was really uncomfortable for Republicans and conservatives because, you know, they're
07:02trying to say, well, the law and the legal, it's there's a problem here. And how do we deal with
07:07these people? Because they're wonderful people and many of them and they didn't do anything wrong.
07:12They came because their their parents dragged them here as children. So they didn't make a decision
07:16to break the law and come to the country illegally. So what do you do about them? And and of course,
07:21Donald Trump in the first term, his first term, made a wonderful deal to legalize all of them.
07:27And solve that problem. And what we then found out was that actually Democrats don't care about
07:32dreamers. They don't care about innocent people and immigrants coming to the country. What they
07:37care about is they hate voters, American voters, and they want to import millions of voters into
07:42the country, new voters into the country who are illegal aliens. And so what you wind up with
07:47is a gangbanger who is accused of beating his wife. And they're literally sending one of their own
07:52down to go. And so all throughout the campaign, the top two issues were border security and the
07:57economy all throughout. And one of the things that was quite shocking was it was the highest number,
08:02like 80 percent of people were for deporting the illegal immigration, illegal immigrants that have
08:07come across during Biden. Harry Enten of CNN, if you could pull this up, call for number five.
08:12This is how voters are thinking about it now.
08:14Voters favoring the government trying to deport all 11 million of them. Back in 2016, just 38 percent
08:23of voters wanted the government to try to deport all 11 million undocumented immigrants. Compared
08:29to where we are in 2025, 56 percent, the majority.
08:33So that number, it's maybe come down a little bit. Maybe it'll be down a little bit more after this
08:38week, but it's still quite a majority, Jessica. So I wonder what you think about Van Hollen and
08:43this photo op. Will it pay off or hurt him in the end? Well, the top line number for sure is going in
08:49Trump's favor on immigration. And we saw this in the recent CNBC poll, too. But it's also 61 percent
08:55disapprove of sending people who are here undocumented, who have not been convicted of a crime to a foreign
09:01prison camp. And that's what's going on here. And people are paying attention to it. I think that
09:07it is very clear that the public outrage over this and the fact that a U.S. senator showed up there
09:11has put pressure on Bukele and on the Trump administration, because before, while they were
09:17lounging around the Oval Office, patting each other on their authoritarian back, saying, ha ha ha,
09:22build more prisons. What is the outrage? What outrage? Public outrage? Yeah. You're just reading news
09:27blogs, Jessica. You think that the Supreme Court saying nine zero that his return has to be
09:33facilitated. You think this Fourth Circuit opinion written by a Reagan appointee saying this should
09:38be public outrage. Yes. Greg, I'm not just getting this off of some junk on my phone. If you look on
09:44the front pages of all of the major newspapers, if you look at every newscast and what they're leading
09:49with, it's this story. And you say you always pick one person. You say that to me frequently. And then
09:54I come back the next day with someone new. When I said there's a 54-year-old American man that was
09:59taken into ICE detention custody. Oh, one guy, he got returned. No big deal. Then I talk about
10:04Andre, the gay makeup artist, who, by the way, still has not been convicted of anything, and we
10:08don't know what's happened to him. Why isn't anybody going down there to try to get him? Well, someone
10:10should. Whoever, whatever's saying. But why would Chris Van Hollen, though, pick this guy?
10:14Why do you pick an MS-13 guy and not the gay makeup artist? This isn't an MS-13 guy. Let's be very clear
10:19about this. The accusation of being MS-13 is based on a double hearsay testimony. They never followed
10:25up with it. And a detective who, weeks later, was indicted for sharing confidential information.
10:32His legal status, Abrego Garcia's, was approved by the Trump administration in 2019. And every year
10:37since then, he has checked in with the Department of Homeland Security. And nobody has said anything
10:42about him being a gangbanger. Until he was? No, no, not until anything. Until he became
10:47a prop. To this day. It's not about being a prop. There will be other senators that are looking into
10:52these because it is reported that over 75% of the people that were on that plane have not been
10:57convicted of anything. And the American public understands the difference between being deported
11:01and being sent to a foreign prison where they don't get a phone call. They don't get to talk to their
11:07lawyer, their wife. Neither does somebody who's been killed by an illegal alien. If we have a mass
11:12murderer in maximum security American prison, they have more rights than the people being sent there
11:17for a lifetime sentence. Because they get here. Okay. He had legal status. Okay. How did he get here?
11:23He was here illegally. He admitted he was here illegally. And the government said we made a mistake.
11:28Okay. So the question that Dana asked was, why did Chris Van Hollen pick this particular person
11:35to completely defend, to go to El Salvador, to have this big show? And the answer is because this is
11:41his constituent. This is who he sees, this illegal alien gang member who beat his wife, was accused of
11:48being a suspicious human trafficker that the Democrats in Maryland and the Democrats at the federal level
11:54completely allowed to continue that behavior for years. He's lecturing about deception,
12:01which is pure projection. And the question about why he's doing this comes back to me,
12:06because it's hard to wrap your brain around why you would do this, is that he's running for president.
12:11He wants to run for president. So he's looking at his constituency. Democrats have completely lost the
12:17voters they used to have. And they're looking at the people they brought in and they're saying,
12:21we're going to completely erase the line between citizenship of the United States of America
12:26and being here illegally, which Jessica just perfectly laid out why it doesn't matter.
12:30He said residents of this country. He didn't say citizens of this country. So Democrats for years
12:36have tried to destroy that so they can then import this new constituency, which they are defending
12:42in Maryland, in El Salvador. And this is what they're doing with it. Finally, I would say that
12:48Americans have been the victims of these crimes. And it goes back to, again, they're willing to defend
12:54the rights, the constitutional rights that this guy doesn't actually have because he's not a citizen,
13:00but they're not willing to stand up for actual Americans in their states who are victims of violent
13:05crimes. They're victims of identity theft, a whole slew of things that happen when illegal immigrants
13:11pour into the country. And so Democrats are doing this. I think the Trump administration likes it.
13:15When your enemy is doing something stupid, you just let them keep doing it.
13:19And I don't think that that press conference. All right. We will move it right along. Up next,
13:25Kamala Harris is crashing and AOC is rising. It is falling fast. Kamala's numbers seem to be slipping
13:33in early Democrat primary polls and socialist AOCs are starting to rise. Ocasio-Cortez is a close second
13:40behind the former VP in the latest 2028 Democratic primary matchup. And it's got this ex-CNN reporter
13:47thinking Harris should give up on her dream of being president.
13:52Kamala Harris absolutely should not, should not run for president in 2028. They know her name more than
14:02they know the names of anybody else. But there's been two polls out in the last five days, four days,
14:10that I think are, should be, I don't know if they are, but they should be a bright siren, a red flashing
14:17warning for Kamala Harris as she looks at what she wants to run for next and the presidency.
14:22And always a betting man, Nate Silver is putting his chips on AOC being the Democratic nominee in 2028.
14:31My first pick of the first round draft is Alexandria Ocasio.
14:39Sorry, I mean, I have to say it's substep. You can say whatever we want. That was going to be my first pick.
14:43Oh, my God. We both are on the AOC bus.
14:47And she was going to be my first pick and I can't conceal that now, right?
14:50Um, because of some of the polling, because she has this kind of progressive lane, probably not to
14:54herself, because she is younger and media savvy. Do you guys have anybody up there?
15:01So, Jessica, uh, two things. Should Kamala say, never mind for president? And is AOC going to be
15:08the front runner? I think it's just way too early for this. And I think it's more likely that Kamala
15:13runs for California governor than she runs for president. Again, I know you floated the idea she
15:16could do governor and then she could do president. But I really feel like Democrats are just in,
15:24you know, crouching mode, trying to figure out what's going on. And the dividing line in the
15:28party right now is who's being active and who's being passive. And AOC is being the most active.
15:34And that's why she's the most talked about. She's having this enormous rally is fundraising $9 million.
15:39I think it was $9.2 million maybe in the first quarter. And everybody just wants to see their
15:45representatives with a spine. People who are saying, we're going to stand up to the Trump
15:49administration, people that are galvanizing folks. And she, she and Bernie have one of the more
15:53compelling working class messages. They sound like Trump a lot of the time, um, when they're talking
15:59like that. Maybe a spine, Dana, but also with some hypocrisy, working class, but also raking
16:04in $700 tickets at Coachella. I don't know. Private jets, private jets, all the things.
16:09They're in crouching mode. It's more like fetal position. I mean, it is bad. And Doug Sosnick
16:14is a great political analyst during the Clinton administration, has a big deep dive in Politico
16:18today. And one of the things he says is anytime after a presidency is won, like Trump winning,
16:23then the next couple of years, even possibly four years, there's really only a party and a half.
16:29So it's the Republican party and then half a Democratic party, because they might try to
16:33win the midterms. But I got to say, the Republicans have to be pretty happy that David Hogg is at the
16:37DNC saying, we are going to destroy all the moderate Democrats. And Bernie and AOC are like,
16:43sounds good to me. Also, it's pretty cute that the media thinks that the rally that Trump had at
16:48Madison Square Garden was nothing. And yet we're supposed to be so excited that they can sort of like
16:53half fill an auditorium. Yeah. Or at a concert that everyone was going to anyway.
16:57Yes. Right. For all the musical acts. So, Charlie, they say this is the shock pull with AOC
17:03coming in second place. But based on what Dana just said about David Hogg trying to destroy
17:07anyone with common sense left in the Democratic Party, I'm actually not surprised at all.
17:11Yeah. I didn't think that was much of a shock either. You know, obviously, the Harris numbers
17:15are just name ideas, all it is. And people are and I agree with Jessica. They're just kind of confused
17:20more than anything else. AOC has all of the credibility for her side because she says things
17:26that nobody else says. She draws great crowds, good energy, lots of charisma. All this stuff is
17:33really great for them. I think that she could be a probably if I had to bet on somebody right now,
17:40I would probably tend to bet on her. The problem is that she does not unify the party. And when you look
17:47back at what the party elders did to Bernie Sanders, they're going to try to do to her, too. And if you
17:54think Kamala Harris had a problem with Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro being Jewish, wait till you
18:00see the problem that that this woman has with Jews in her party. It's going to get very ugly and
18:08you're not going to be able to paper over these things the way that was the gift of Barack Obama.
18:12He was able to paper over all the differences in the party and everybody loved him. She's I don't
18:17think she's going to be able to do that. She's not a uniter, Craig, at least for AOC.
18:22Yeah. Well, first, I think we should have a moratorium on white dorks on Zoom calls.
18:26Okay. You know, we have like done. We have fastest and we have fan mail. And I just can't listen to
18:32those Nate Silvers and these Silliza people just bites into this glorious show. AOC. She's kind of
18:40fun in a, you know, a silly, but earnest, wrong, but adorable way. She's like your daughter when she
18:47comes back from her first year at Brown, full of half baked, half opinions in need of some gentle,
18:54patient deprogramming. But people have to realize new faces doesn't mean new ideas. Drives me crazy.
19:01AOC has never introduced a fresh idea or issue in her life. She, the reason why she gets along with
19:09Bernie is because they're, she's like an 80 year old leftist in a used bookstore. I mean, you know,
19:15she may look, she may look fresh, but she's as stale as an abandoned futon on the street. It's like,
19:21I listened to her. I go, I heard that at Berkeley in 1983. So their problem is, and the reason why they
19:27don't have any ideas is they operate on half opinions. Like what if we get rid of cash bail?
19:33Oh, let's do it. What happens? You have repeat criminals wreaking havoc. What if we have sanctuary
19:39cities? Hey, let's do it. What happens? You have rapists and killers, you know, finding sanctuary,
19:44safe haven. What if we give trans rights, rights that we don't have? Well, you just ruined women's
19:49sports. You ruin safe spaces. You make kids' lives hell. But you don't think about,
19:54they never think about what their ideas incentivize. That would be nice. So where
19:59are their ideas going to come from? Trump. The only way they're going to create a message
20:04is based on whatever Trump does. So I have some slogans for the Democrat Party.
20:09The Democrat Party, when you're tired of success. The Democrat Party, make America suck again.
20:17Democrat Party, the first choice for illegals, vandals, and dead people.
20:23Well, thank you for not using the word oligarchy in your slogans.
20:28Oligarchy. Not using any of those.
20:31Okay. Up next, late night crybaby Jimmy Kimmel is sobbing again about Trump's election win.
20:38He is back. Jimmy Kimmel is trying to distance himself from cancel culture. He said, quote,
20:42I think a lot of the outrage is completely manufactured. I think these liberals who've
20:47done such a good job of viciously attacking comedians are a big part of the reason why
20:51Trump is president right now. But let's see what an actual comedian thinks. Tom Dillon is riffing on
20:58whether he's part of the manosphere that the media says got Trump elected.
21:04The manosphere is just a funny, it's a funny idea because it's this idea that the people,
21:12you run a very unpopular candidate on a platform that Americans reject and then go,
21:17it's actually four guys who have podcasts. Half of these people, you know, we work like an hour a day.
21:23Yeah. And, uh, a lot of us do it, uh, you know, high.
21:27So that would be Tim Dillon earlier this week on the one and only Gutfeld. Um, you know, uh, the,
21:35the first question I really want to know from you, I want an absolute rock solid promise from you
21:41that unlike James Kimmel, you will never, ever cry about politics on your show.
21:47I never will. And I will never add a Y to my name. It'll never be Greggy. You know,
21:51he says Kimmel in this interview says he's grown, like he won't make a joke
21:56about a person. If that person of a particular color or persuasion is in that room, that's not
22:03growth. That's just being a sneaky bigot. You know, he's saying, you know, if the black guy's
22:07in the room, I won't make the joke about the black guy. What's he's out of there. Hey,
22:11did you hear about the guy, the black guy in the bucket of chicken? You know, he's racist.
22:16He basically kind of just admits he's a closet racist. And then he says, it really isn't enjoyable
22:21when someone is funny and then a skull tells him, oh, that's not funny. That's his entire
22:26relationship with Trump. The funniest person on the planet is Trump. And this guy is the leading
22:31voice and saying, oh, that's not funny. Taking him literally every single time. I don't think
22:36he can find a more legitimate scold than Kimmel. And he's not doing it for the sake of reality.
22:40It's status preservation. He's deliberately shape-shifting to fit the contours of his A-list
22:47pals. The problem with gaining status, you can lose it. And that changes the way you think.
22:53I've never had any status. Never. So I can't lose anything. By the way, Tim Dillon is the funniest
23:00person on the planet. And his podcast is amazing. So, Dana, obviously, Jimmy Kimmel is a sneaky
23:07bigot. He is also blackface. Obviously. He was. And he's also shape-shifting. And I am so confused
23:14about what in the world he's trying to say to Rolling Stone here. Well, I think that there was
23:19not a lot to root for when it came to Jimmy Kimmel in reading the Rolling Stone piece. Like, it's not
23:24like there's a lot of layers to the guy. And also, so he's complaining about the left scolding. He says,
23:29liberals coming after comedians. But in the same interview, he says, I don't understand how
23:33Americans can support Trump and all the stuff he gets hung up on, like transgender sports that affect
23:38almost no one. Yeah. True. True. Jessica, um, should, uh, Jimmy Kimmel have been canceled
23:47for doing the blackface? It was a long time ago. I'm not. So with slavery, Jessica.
23:53Very true. And I'm glad that you brought that up. Um, actually not glad at all. Don't want to talk
23:59about it. Um, dark past. Yes. Um, I kind of think the whole conversation around the cancellation of
24:09comedians really was commensurate with how good you are at comedy. Like great comedians who were
24:16even political had some of the most successful years during the Trump administration, like Dave
24:21Chappelle, Bill Burr, people that are openly liberal, like John Mulaney, who's even more to the left of
24:27them. Like he's fine. I think that people didn't react well to low hanging fruit. Like if you were
24:33act, like if you were a comedian that was just giving people the most obvious, like Trump is like
24:39Hitler, they didn't like that. And they reacted poorly to it. But if you were actually making
24:44nuanced jokes or doing cultural criticism that people left and right liked it and didn't,
24:50I think nobody went after Biden except for my show. Yep. She's saying it's boring.
24:54I, yeah. How dare you? How dare you? It was boring. So I'm not, no, I. So for a second.
25:01I take coverage to low hanging fruit. No, no, but that's not what I'm saying. That's a hype joke.
25:06No, but I actually wasn't. I wasn't talking about you. I was saying about. So Jimmy Kimmel was totally fine
25:12with people getting canceled so long as there are people he didn't like. He was fine with keeping
25:16conservative comedians out of comedy. He was fine with canceling people who liked Trump. He never
25:21shared the risk when somebody got in trouble exactly he he never stood up for comedy when
25:25it really mattered in the first amendment and now all of a sudden he's losing to people like
25:30greg he's gonna whine and act like somehow he should have said something before like this is
25:36so obvious and also they just kept regurgitating the same thing over and over again checking the
25:41boxes of what you were allowed to make fun of what you weren't allowed to make fun of and it
25:45was just really boring and hollywood's in the same position and so he's desperately running to the
25:49front of the parade and acting like he is leading it when actually gut felt exclamation point is
25:54leading it's so true your status now great so true yes you have now you have something to lose so be
25:59careful up next wendy's is refusing to squash the beef with katie perry you go girl the all-female
26:08spaceflight was supposed to launch female empowerment into the stratosphere you never know how much love
26:15is inside of you like how much love you have to give and how loved you are until the day you launch
26:24i don't like that people are calling it a ride a ride you know you never see a man a male astronaut
26:30who's going up in space and they said oh he took a ride
26:33instead it launched a punchline beloved fast food chain wendy's is refusing to apologize over a snarky
26:40post insulting carrie perry after the space flight it said quote can we send her back and transportation
26:47secretary sean duffy just confirmed that katie perry and gail king are not astronauts thank you
26:53secretary duffy for clearing that up dana why why you think the wendy's shade well i think that people
27:00didn't realize that wendy's is like the social media team that every company needs and wants like
27:05they're unique they're different they're out there punching that like when uh burger king said um why
27:11do you have square burgers and i said because we don't cut corners like you i mean they're funny and
27:17um i think if i were katie perry i never would have responded no never would have responded this is
27:23exactly what wendy's wanted they we are talking about how funny wendy's is on the vibe all day
27:29yep all day long wendy's but does that sell any hamburgers that doesn't make me hungry for wendy's
27:34oh it makes it i want a frosty right now with french fries no they do i use their frosty with french fries
27:39i mean i i you guys don't tell me the calorie count i don't want to know who counts calories
27:44everybody but you i don't maybe because you're a man charlie and do men not count calories no
27:51ever no greg not usually have you counted calories no this body i was so happy when i first heard
28:00about this launch and so sad when i found out they were coming back um i'm in wendy's camp on this
28:08when trump drove the garbage truck we didn't pretend he was a garbage man right you know they're calling
28:14this a ride well what did you do in the ride did you touch a button no the only thing you did was you
28:18buckled up this is the culmination of the you go girl absurdity it's actually insulting to women
28:24i agree for them to be called astronauts and where is the trans astronaut i mean you this is not
28:31inclusive at all there was no trans there was no spirit animals no genderqueer
28:37they were by the
29:05I don't know.
29:35and it has to be a swim
29:37and it has to be a swim
29:39oh my god
30:05wow
30:35I'm sorry.
30:37My volume is cold.
30:41Oh, oh, oh.

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