Foolish In Studio with Mason & Starr
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00:00Listen, Foolish used to work for another radio station.
00:04They just so happened to be in the same building.
00:08But when we were ready to do the crush him up, we'd go get him.
00:13Or we'd be getting coffee and he'd say something.
00:18Oh no, Foolish, you gotta say that on the radio.
00:20You go like, yeah, I'm going back now.
00:22No, no, no, no, you gotta come on our side and say that.
00:25And he graced us a million, two million, three hundred million times, man.
00:32Foolish, thank you, man.
00:33And good morning.
00:34What up, Foolish?
00:35What up, Dad, Foolish?
00:37What up, Joe?
00:39Let me tell you something, man.
00:40It is a pleasure and always an honor to rock with y'all.
00:43I don't give a care where we at.
00:45We could be eating somewhere.
00:47It's like the light always shines when we're together, man, for real.
00:51Thank you, and that is so true.
00:52I ain't never been depressed around y'all, man.
00:55People were musty as I don't know what around us one time.
00:58And for some reason, the funk cleared when y'all started talking, man.
01:03And we overcame the must.
01:06You remember that, man?
01:07We was over there doing the show and all the male ladies showed up.
01:10And we were like, ooh, somebody bumping.
01:13Somebody bumping.
01:14She cute, but you bumping over there.
01:16Foolish, how many years for you now?
01:18In the comedy game, I started in like late 97, so it'll be like about close to 27 years.
01:26What made you think you could go on stage and do comedy?
01:32What was it?
01:32What was the day?
01:33Who did you hear?
01:34Who were you talking to?
01:35You know what?
01:36I've been the class clown all my life.
01:40Like, I'm talking about all my life.
01:41If you ask anybody grew up with me, anybody that hustled with me, I've always been foolish.
01:48But I tell you, when you look at working at Little Caesars at Joe Louis Arena, and I'm
01:54talking about I worked there 12 years.
01:58You know, I brought Prince a pizza.
02:00You know what I mean?
02:01I done sit up there and made sure that Luther Vandross had some chicken wings before.
02:07Like, I mean, it's a difference when you perform at a place where you used to work at.
02:15Like, I'm talking about, like, I went back and opened up for Jay-Z, and I hosted numerous
02:21events there, you know, through radio and just people, promoters.
02:26But I tell you, man, comedy saved my life.
02:31You know, I was going down a very dark road.
02:34And those that know me, they remember when I bust that bottle up against the ground, and
02:39I walked from Tillman and Martin Luther King all the way to Granville and Plymouth.
02:45Wow!
02:47I knew where to go.
02:49You know, like, when a guy hits you, and then you get to moving, and you're leaving people
02:55where they're at.
02:56Like, where are you going?
02:59And they didn't know.
03:00And then you start your path.
03:04Man, it's an incredible journey.
03:07I always loved him.
03:10It was a hundred years ago, we were talking about Tony Brown.
03:13Foolish was doing B's Comedy Kitchen.
03:16Right?
03:17Yeah.
03:18He did a stomach joke.
03:20I had to come back the next night and watch it for two more shows.
03:25I'd already seen it.
03:26It was incredible.
03:27It was incredible.
03:29See, you know, I swear for the last 20 years, you've been talking about this stomach joke.
03:35Yeah.
03:35And I swear, like, all that, you know, that went viral on BET, that joke.
03:42Oh, no kidding.
03:43No, I didn't know.
03:44Because I was talking about, like, why is it so unattractive to exercise?
03:49If you could do sex moves, oh, you'll work out all day.
03:54And then that's why I did the stomach joke.
03:56You know, I could do a hundred million of these.
04:00Because it's the truth.
04:02And, you know, I'm going to talk about that this weekend, too.
04:04Because a lot of times, it's not you that really is unattractive to working out.
04:11It's the place.
04:13If the place made you feel good about working out, you'll go work out.
04:18It's like your doctor.
04:19That's true.
04:19When you go to your doctor and he talking all good to you, and you're like, man, I can't
04:24wait to come to my next checkup.
04:27But if he say something like, man, you ain't going to never see me again.
04:31You hear me, fam?
04:31You ain't going back.
04:32That was the worst news I ever heard in my life, man.
04:35Who, who, who, who, am I paying you for that?
04:38To me, some doctors need to hold back some information, fam.
04:42Don't even tell me I got three months to leave.
04:44You hear me, fam?
04:46Be like, hey, hey, hey, keep it up.
04:48Man.
04:48Keep it up.
04:50You were in a crazy car accident that scared all of us.
04:55Yes.
04:56On, on the most murderous street in the city, Joy Road.
05:01And, you know, I was one block up from it, and I'm coming down, you know, my block, about
05:07to go do a show, and the dude just runs the stop sign doing 60.
05:12Woo.
05:14Told my little plastic charger up.
05:16And, you know, I was out for a minute.
05:19And then when I came to, and I saw him come to, he took off.
05:24When he took off, whatever life was left of me put that boy in drive.
05:29And I'm talking about my front end is hanging off.
05:33His back end hanging off.
05:34He already, like, three blocks up.
05:36He had a brand new Cherokee.
05:37Might have been stolen, whatever it is.
05:39We never recovered him or whoever it was.
05:42No kidding.
05:43And my car was breaking down as I tried to follow him and get a license plate.
05:48But, you know, I just thank God and the people who put me back together.
05:52You know what I mean?
05:53And I still got that circle.
05:55You know, sometimes when you really need people, they there.
06:02You know, and phew.
06:05That was, man.
06:06I love them.
06:07I love y'all.
06:08And now you take the stage.
06:10One mic, one light.
06:12Birthday weekend.
06:13Tonight at Punchline.
06:15It's the birthday weekend.
06:17Hey, man.
06:17I want to celebrate people who really are surviving out there.
06:23Because, you know, as we look at the Detroit Lions and that loss, it took some air out the city.
06:28Yeah.
06:29You know, I saw people who were like, man, I'm about to go back and get my GED.
06:33Man, you know, I ain't really worried about it because I got my own business now.
06:36But I'm going to get that GED thing.
06:39And I was like, wow, look at everybody so happy.
06:42And then I was like, you know, it's a fake spirit if you can't keep it.
06:46Right.
06:46There you go.
06:47I tell people all the time, man, don't ask me how I'm doing again, fam.
06:51Because there ain't nothing you can do about it if I ain't doing good.
06:54You want to ask, or is you helping, or is you going to be nosy?
06:58Like, what are you about to do, put the video camera in my face?
07:00Like, people really don't care.
07:04And when they care, you have to take advantage of that.
07:07They start caring about the Lions again.
07:10Me, personally, I was not watching football no more because of how we've been played these last couple years.
07:17Referees and, you know, just not treating the players like how I thought they should have been treated.
07:23You know what I mean?
07:23Like, we should have still had some years with Megatron.
07:27You know, I always say that.
07:28But to get this far and to see the air took out of the city just in one half, it blew my mind.
07:37And I said, I'm not going to be, you know, into that type of fake spirit ever again.
07:43Right now, I root for me.
07:45I root for the people around me.
07:47I root for Black Wall Street, which is coming alive in the city.
07:51You know, one thing, I see Sports Illustrated about to move here off the water.
07:56Really?
07:56Oh, yes, they are.
07:57They got a whole corporate building that they putting together right as we speak.
08:01So this city has so much value.
08:04You see how much them Lions tickets cost next season?
08:07Yeah.
08:07Let me tell you something.
08:08They need to make a package.
08:10Throw the Pistons in there for that price, too.
08:14Golly.
08:14Come on, fam.
08:16Give us something, man.
08:18Free Piston tickets when you buy your Lions.
08:21Dawg, let me tell you something.
08:22I went to one Piston game, and I literally was out to Jersey up.
08:25I was like, y'all need me, fam.
08:27No, you don't even go to Jersey up.
08:28I'm out to Jersey up, fam.
08:30Y'all need me, dawg.
08:31Y'all need me in the corner or something.
08:33Man, two shows tonight at Punchline, 7.30, 10 o'clock.
08:37Two shows tomorrow night, 7.30, 10 o'clock.
08:40You doing a Sunday Monday?
08:41Hey, dawg, Sunday, 6 o'clock show.
08:43And I'm going to be so benevolent because I do church shows, too.
08:47People always think, man, you'll be so raw.
08:49I remember I was on the road one time with Ricky Smiley, and he was like, man, you was
08:53over there talking nasty and cussing and stuff, man.
08:57I was like, that's me.
09:00We at the improv.
09:01This Florida.
09:02I'm giving them the business.
09:03He was like, but I got a church audience.
09:05I say, well, they just got took to church.
09:09I didn't say nothing unrelevant.
09:12But that's the difference in comedy.
09:14I never worked with him again.
09:16But every time he see me, he respect me.
09:18You have to understand that sometimes you do have to calm it down.
09:24But you didn't tell me to.
09:26I'm being me.
09:27If you don't tell me exactly like I got a church show coming up with my girl, Sherry Henderson.
09:32Listen, I know what jokes to do.
09:35Yes.
09:35I know how to fill out the cry.
09:37I know who I'm talking to.
09:38I done performed with the winers before.
09:41You know what I mean?
09:42And I swear, Pastor Winer pulled me to the side.
09:45He said, fool, I want to thank you for not going like how I know you do.
09:51Keep going.
09:51You know how he just calmed the whole room down.
09:56I swear, it could have been riled up.
09:58He just come in.
09:59Hi.
10:00That's good.
10:01I think I need y'all to turn it down.
10:03That is good.
10:04That is kind of foolish.
10:05And I swear, man, Detroit is so beautiful.
10:09But at the same time, we can be so ignorant.
10:12I don't know what type of women out there are dating these dudes, but if you're dating somebody that's still in Kia or taking steering wheels off cars, do you know what your life's about to be like?
10:28I just want you to know this.
10:31Ladies, do you realize gym shoes and buffs really ain't the qualifications of a good man?
10:38Do you know this?
10:40We're going to talk about it because I have a 14-year-old daughter.
10:43She is not amused.
10:45She knows that once she comes in contact with somebody's spirit, you're neither bringing me up or down.
10:52There you go.
10:53And if your ignorance is something to bring me up, then that means I'm about to be down.
10:59Yep.
10:59That's a good point.
11:00Hell, I got a bill for that.
11:02Give me the bill for that.
11:04Man, let me tell you something.
11:05I used to be ignorant, and I thought it was all right.
11:07Drink 40 ounces, got my undershirt on with the hard Levi's in the top 10s.
11:12I'm on the block with the rock.
11:14And I swear it was taking so much away from me because as you grow out of it, you realize, damn, you don't get that time back.
11:24Right.
11:24So if I would have started comedy when I felt like hustling and doing all this other stuff, man, I'd be rich and probably could have put some other people on.
11:36A lot of people don't think about that.
11:38The smarter you are, the smarter you're going to make somebody else if you love them.
11:43Yep.
11:44So true.
11:44If they envious of you, you got to watch God take them out of your life.
11:50You can only help a person so far before you realize they taking out the bucket.
11:56Mm.
11:57And not throwing anything back.
11:59Woo!
12:00Mm.
12:01Man, I love my circle, man.
12:02Y'all been in my circle, man, some decades now.
12:06That's right.
12:07We done saw the level of Detroit from Colman Young and up.
12:12Yep.
12:13Long time.
12:14I was at my boy Rue baby shower and I saw Kwame and his wife.
12:18Oh, yeah?
12:19And a couple kids.
12:20You get a chance to talk to them?
12:22You know, I talked to them a little bit, man.
12:24You know, Kwame about 5'5 now.
12:26He was as big as he was.
12:28You know what I mean?
12:295'5.
12:30It took a lot for Kwame.
12:31I saw him, yeah, Kwame, 5'5 now.
12:34You know, and Kwame ever since, we was on Taylor getting our hair cut by Peanut.
12:39You know what I mean?
12:40Peanut, that's right.
12:41Come on now.
12:42And to see how life has absorbed him and put the spirit back in him, that's what made him
12:47tall when he talked.
12:49He started getting big again.
12:51But you got parts of this community here that has that side of the story and this side
12:58of the story.
13:00And something happened.
13:01But we can't talk about it because it's so gangster.
13:06Yeah.
13:06But everything else, got a camera with it.
13:09You seeing footage.
13:11There was a lady punching her son in the face.
13:14I said, I gotta do this.
13:17I said, Foolish told me a long time, he's taking it in the face.
13:20Taking it in the face.
13:22You know, they still say that.
13:24My thing with Foolish, I don't know if you remember this, but they used to do comedy at
13:30Nicky's.
13:31They were trying to do a comedy night.
13:32Yes.
13:33And you were hosting.
13:34And I came in.
13:35I know it was crazy.
13:36And he hit the mic.
13:37And he would say, this is funny to me.
13:39Funny to me.
13:41No matter what, funny to me.
13:44You know what?
13:45I remember.
13:46I always remember that in my head.
13:47I love that.
13:48I remember, like, literally seeing the same people come in early at the club.
13:54And they just hit the dance floor.
13:56And then, like, about 1 o'clock, I see them still out there.
13:59And I just be like, wow, they just sweated.
14:02Three hours.
14:03Didn't dance with nobody else but themselves.
14:05You ever saw the people?
14:06Oh, yeah.
14:06They by themselves.
14:07Oh, yeah.
14:07They will dance all night.
14:09I don't know what's in them.
14:11But I say to myself, I say, boy, to be musty that long is stay at the club to the end.
14:18Yes.
14:19Like, they ain't even trying to talk to nobody.
14:21I remember one girl, she just get on the dance floor.
14:23And she go do the splits about 5,000 times, everything.
14:27And she did not like nobody to talk to her.
14:30She just wanted to be in her splits.
14:32She loved the DJs, though.
14:33Right.
14:33She loved the DJs.
14:34She'd be right by the DJ.
14:36Hey, could you play this show?
14:37I want to do my little splits.
14:38Did you ever want to be a DJ?
14:40Did you ever fool with that?
14:41Man, you know what, dog?
14:42I love my DJs.
14:44But one thing I see is that I be trying to rap too much over the beats.
14:49But you can rap.
14:50Oh, yeah, yeah, man.
14:51I still got it.
14:51Don't make people think.
14:52Okay.
14:52I mean, y'all still freestyle.
14:54You know, we can get something going whenever.
14:56I'm totally like, oh, good.
15:00Look at Angie.
15:00She's like, really?
15:01Look at Angie.
15:02Hey, turn me up, son.
15:05Turn me up, son.
15:06You used to do these records.
15:07Do you know anybody got February 29th birthday?
15:10I do not.
15:11Me?
15:11I've never met a man or her.
15:13I do not.
15:14Please come party with us.
15:15How does that work, though?
15:16You know, I'd be mad.
15:17I'd be kind of mad.
15:18You have to pick a day the day before and the day after, right?
15:20You just celebrated the next day.
15:22You have to go on March 1st.
15:23Oh, you go the next day.
15:23Yeah.
15:24But that ain't your birthday.
15:25Yeah, but you know what?
15:25You got to do what you got to do in this world.
15:29Fools, we said we would let him freestyle.
15:31I just pulled the first thing I got.
15:32I got too short.
15:35Aw, dawg.
15:36Too short.
15:36Aw.
15:37Yeah, yeah.
15:37Blow the whistle as well.
15:38Uh-huh.
15:39It's a birthday weekend.
15:40It's a birthday weekend.
15:42It's a birthday weekend.
15:43It's a birthday weekend.
15:44My back hurt.
15:46My back hurt because I'm 54.
15:50My back hurt.
15:51My back hurt because I'm 54.
15:54Who old as hell out there driving your car?
15:57I know I see you.
15:58You could have been at the bar but can't go no more because you like taking naps.
16:03Oh, you can't get the young life back.
16:05Oh, back hurt 54.
16:07But we gon' go right there to the punchline and grind like never before.
16:11This is the weekend for everybody that used to be freaky.
16:14Pull out that outfit right out the attic.
16:17I know you got mothballs on it.
16:18I know that's probably unhattily.
16:20But we gon' give a damn.
16:21Let me see them shoes that you used to look good in.
16:25Your toes are showing.
16:26Your toes are showing.
16:27Ladies and gentlemen, there he is, Dr. Foolish.
16:30I'm about to go there, man.
16:32Appreciate that, man.
16:33Punchline all weekend.
16:35It's gonna be a great show.
16:36That was good, Foolish.
16:37Man, thank you, man.
16:40That's what you used to do when we first met.
16:42He could rap.
16:43He could rap like crazy.
16:45Yo, let me tell you something.
16:46Foolish could do a lot of stuff.
16:48You made me literally pull a pin out every morning.
16:53He like, look, this is what you're going to do.
16:55This is what I'm going to do.
16:56You made it easy for me.
16:57You gave me a rhythm.
16:59And with that rhythm, that's how I looked at comedy.
17:03You got a host.
17:05You got a feature.
17:06And then you got a headliner.
17:08Me, I don't even need a feature.
17:11I bring that.
17:11Let somebody just bring me up.
17:13I got an hour or two.
17:14Yep.
17:14You know what I mean?
17:15The party.
17:16And we can go there.
17:17Ooh, you cut, you cut, you cut.
17:21Yeah.
17:23Your barber just messed up, baby.
17:25Ooh.
17:27Come on, now.
17:28That was the craziest.
17:30Whoa, we had a ball.
17:31Cat Williams has made quite the noise out in the world over the last month.
17:37It's so foolish.
17:38You had a chance to see any of that?
17:40Man, I watched it about five times.
17:43Yeah?
17:43And you know what, man?
17:44I love Cat.
17:46You know, Cat was one of the dudes that, you know, when I saw him backstage at Joe Louis
17:50Arena, because my boy Zuman Miller, man, him started off in the game together, man.
17:55He got me some tickets, man.
17:57Primo show.
17:58It was Red Grant, Superman, Mark Curry.
18:01Red always talks about you when he comes here.
18:04All right, man, you know, Red Grant, good brother.
18:05He actually asked to produce my hour special.
18:11No kidding.
18:12That weekend we worked together.
18:13Yeah.
18:13He was like, man, I want to do your hour special.
18:15And I would just look at him like, I do too.
18:17I want to do it.
18:19I want to do it too, fam.
18:21But Cat Williams looked at me, and he was like this, foolish.
18:25Like he'd been knowing me for years.
18:29Only two other people did that.
18:33Ice Cube, Mike Tyson.
18:36Wow.
18:37I'm talking about just straight up.
18:38Mike Tyson saw me in Vegas and literally just came running towards me like, man, her screen
18:48door stank.
18:50Something he heard you say.
18:52He saw me on BET.
18:53And he remembered that.
18:54Wow.
18:55Chris Brown did the same thing on that joke.
18:58But I'm going to tell you, Cat Williams is a genius for real.
19:02He made comedians come after him now.
19:06If you was in that conversation, now you got something to prove.
19:11Yeah, no doubt.
19:12I saw an interview with Earthquake.
19:14Earthquake said, how can't I read?
19:17And I was building nuclear bombs in the armed services.
19:24Really?
19:25Yeah.
19:26Oh, my God.
19:27But I mean, that's crazy to me that now, you know, when you talk about comedians, they get
19:34sad and depressed.
19:36Like, when I saw Ricky Smiley on camera crying, and I was like, come on, Ricky?
19:42Ricky?
19:44Ricky?
19:46Get at him, Rick.
19:49What?
19:50Don't be crying.
19:51Don't go for the sympathy, fam.
19:53Steve Harvey do the same thing, just talk.
19:57I mean, come on, man, Steve.
19:59You don't even look right crying, fam.
20:02Got that bushy mustache, dawg.
20:05Always sensitive to it.
20:07If I didn't have my wife.
20:11Come on, dawg.
20:14Grump some hair back, fam.
20:15That boy is.
20:16Don't get too sensitive, dawg.
20:19You know, it's like this.
20:22When I see my fellow comedians, you know, it don't be like no starstruck stuff.
20:28Like, I don't ride nobody coattail.
20:30You know what I mean?
20:30Because half of them dope face, and half of them know when they came in town, they wanted
20:35me to get it for them.
20:37Because I was a street cat.
20:38Right.
20:38So it was like, don't even front.
20:43I know everybody.
20:44I done opened up for everybody.
20:46I done been on shows all through this mug.
20:49So you can't do nothing but acknowledge me like I acknowledge you.
20:54If it's lesser than that, then I already know what you're about.
20:57You know what I mean?
20:58T.K. Kirkland coming in town, he'd be like, foolish, I'm your biggest fan.
21:02I just want to let you know I'm your biggest fan.
21:05T.K.
21:06And I swear, to this day, I've never heard him crack a joke.
21:11I haven't either, foolish.
21:13That is true.
21:13And we interviewed him all the time.
21:18That's what his show is.
21:20It's a conversation.
21:21He's telling you the truth.
21:22But at the same time, he's telling you how his game is.
21:27And once you watch Cat Williams, it's like, he's telling you the truth, showing you how
21:33his game is.
21:34That's the new way of doing comedy.
21:37You go out there to L.A., it's all black and white jokes.
21:40Black people like this, white people like this.
21:42I saw at least 100 comedians go back to back on just black and white jokes.
21:47Wow.
21:48Wow.
21:48Trying to fit in.
21:49Yeah.
21:50So have you ever been out in L.A. and performed?
21:52Man, I went out to L.A. and I saw dudes doing my jokes from working with me at Coco's House of Comedy.
21:58Really?
21:59But I didn't give a damn because they were my friends.
22:02I don't ever want to see my friends not look bad.
22:05So if you take a piece of something that I got and you do good, I'm like, you know what?
22:09Hey, run that.
22:10I don't ever want you to look bad.
22:12You said T.K. does, but you do that.
22:17You're a storyteller.
22:19I'm worse, though, man.
22:20I ain't going to lie because my punchline is on something ridiculous.
22:25Yes, it is.
22:25Right now.
22:26Which is why people want to keep talking to you.
22:28I love writing a joke.
22:31You know what I mean?
22:32I got a joke life that's funny.
22:35I'm always going to talk about growing up in E-Course and Southwest Detroit off Vinewood,
22:40but when you can write a joke, like, you know, when I was on Comic View,
22:45those were jokes that I wrote.
22:47There wasn't nothing off the top of the dome because you had three minutes.
22:52But I've seen you do over an hour off the top and not remember one of the jokes you did.
22:58And you saw me do it three shows in one night off the top.
23:03Off the top.
23:05Off the top.
23:05And I ain't going to lie.
23:07I repeated a couple.
23:08That's why I'd be like, yo, I don't drink heavy no more.
23:12I thought you could do it.
23:13Like, you know what I mean?
23:14I was like, no, you can't do that.
23:15Three shows in one night and you have.
23:17But you did it, though.
23:18Man, I ain't going to lie.
23:19You did it, and I witnessed it.
23:21And then I would get you in the corner and say, foolish, remember when you did this one?
23:24You said, base.
23:27Really?
23:28I don't remember.
23:30I said, you got to.
23:32You spent 10 minutes on it.
23:33Man, this girl, this girl, she came to me, and she was like, you don't remember me, do you?
23:40And I'm looking at her, you know, she got short hair, you know, brunette, nice looking.
23:44She was like, when you was at Club 313, you went off on me and my daughter.
23:50And I was like, why?
23:52Why did I do that?
23:52She was like, we was both in there with blonde wigs on.
23:57And you said that I looked like Hulk Hogan, and she looked like Brynn to have a valentine.
24:05You are not.
24:07You are not.
24:08And I was like, oh, I do remember y'all.
24:11Everybody ran out to my last.
24:14It was people running down school, Graham, after that joke.
24:17Because they looked at you.
24:18Let me tell you something about that blonde hair.
24:20We're going to have to stop that blonde hair.
24:22That Barbie movie started it back.
24:25You know what I mean?
24:26So you got women that don't look nothing like Barbie with this blonde hair.
24:31Barbie the Barbarian.
24:33That's what the hell you look like.
24:34Chunky Barbie.
24:36Come on, now.
24:36This ain't right to try to look like people on TV, and you look like yourself in the mirror.
24:43What you mean, Tom?
24:44You just look at somebody on TV and be like, oh, I'm about to get that.
24:48Why?
24:49That's not you.
24:51It's the same thing with the BBLs.
24:53This ain't you, fam.
24:55People is dying on a serious note.
24:58I know.
24:58You over here at the Red Roof talking about you about to get a big booty.
25:01Do it sound right.
25:03Do it sound right.
25:05You about to get a shot at the Red Roof.
25:07Okay.
25:07Who paying for this?
25:09Yeah, I got my tax money back.
25:11Oh, hell no.
25:13Go buy another couch.
25:15Please go buy another couch.
25:17No more BBLs.
25:18What did you want to ask, Angie?
25:20Your name came up yesterday.
25:22We had popcorn in the studio.
25:24Oh, my God.
25:24He said he was older than you, but you was like schooling him.
25:26You schooled him.
25:27Why you ain't got a pen?
25:29Why you ain't got paper?
25:30You ain't like the joke?
25:31He said you damn near threw him out of a club one night because he was not prepared.
25:36You know, popcorn had a bad night, and you know what?
25:39I've had bad nights, but this night was like cemetery for him.
25:45Like, I ain't going to lie.
25:46I saw people waking up like, hey, man, get this off the stage.
25:52I was sleeping for two minutes over here.
25:55I got work to do in the morning.
25:57I can come up with it.
25:58But it made popcorn so hilarious after that.
26:03If you ask any comedian that ever, like, came up and tried to get some type of information,
26:09they probably say, man, I don't like the way his approach was when I was asking him.
26:13I'm like, yeah, fam, because I don't know you.
26:16And you a stranger to this game.
26:17You ain't in no competition.
26:19Oh, he said you ready.
26:20I give it to him because my thing is we had competitions where I had to go up against 90 comedians.
26:29Could not imagine.
26:30I had to go.
26:31I took 98 people on the bus with me to Chicago to perform, and I went against 12 comedians.
26:38Came up, runner up.
26:39Now, I remember trying out for the radio, going up against all the comedians in the city for a whole week.
26:51For Mason?
26:52No, not for me.
26:53Oh.
26:54No.
26:54I just wanted to find him.
26:57He was on with me.
26:59So, so, so, so, P.
26:59Audition.
27:00No, he couldn't audition.
27:01No, no, no.
27:02Come on, Mace.
27:03The people made him.
27:04The management.
27:05Yeah, the management made him literally pull comedians out for a whole week.
27:11Yeah.
27:12And then I came up, and it was just like, boom, he made his decision.
27:18Oh, yeah, foolish.
27:19You know foolish is going to kill it.
27:21It was like you feel everybody and the comfort.
27:25The only other person that I ever heard on the radio that was just snapping them off,
27:30and like his timing was like impeccable, was Kool-Aid, comic J. Will, and Josh Adams.
27:40Yeah, Josh.
27:40I mean, like when I hear them snapping, they snapping them.
27:45Comedian CP, snap them, and they all from our camp.
27:49These are the dudes that I could call to perform anywhere in the city, in any type of hood,
27:57and they come out.
27:58You know what I mean?
27:59And that means more to me than anything that you can like build your own circle
28:04that's going to be successful wherever they go.
28:06When you did the BET show, tell everybody who may not have had the opportunity to catch it,
28:14how did it come up, and where did you go to do it?
28:19This is going to be crazy.
28:21I was living in the basement in Flint doing a gospel play called Hair Weave with Talisha and Ken Berry.
28:29They had four kids, and they told me, they was like,
28:34yo, we want you to move in with us.
28:36We're going to teach you how to act.
28:38We're going to get facial expressions, and I lived in Flint for a whole year.
28:42And then when I came back here after we did the play,
28:46which Mike Epps was in and Zoo Man Miller, we didn't go on the road.
28:51So they were like, look, I taught you as much as I could teach you.
28:55Go into Detroit and get your wings.
28:57And when I came back here to the city,
29:02it was competition after competition to get on BET Comic View.
29:07I remember that.
29:08It was a lot of competition.
29:10So much competition it didn't even seem real like they were really going to do it.
29:14That's right.
29:15And then all of a sudden I got the call.
29:17And when I got the call, Gary Owen was the host.
29:21He had just beat out Mike Bonner and Damon Williams to be the host
29:25because that was the big thing on BET back then.
29:28Who's going to be the next host?
29:30It was Mike Bonner, Damon Williams, Gary Owen.
29:33Gary ended up beating everybody.
29:35They was like, yo, he the white hype.
29:37He's the Eminem of BET.
29:40We gots to go there.
29:42So I go.
29:44So where do you go?
29:45Where is it?
29:45New York, LA.
29:46I'm in Burbank, California.
29:48Burbank.
29:48Burbank, California.
29:49That's why I work a lot in Burbank.
29:51And I didn't know nothing about it.
29:53I had to borrow $1,000 from my boy Greg, who owns Strawberry Fields, to get there.
29:59And he told me, he said, you got to work every Monday.
30:01Pay me back.
30:02I'm like, I'm there.
30:03I went there.
30:04They gave me three minutes.
30:06Now, mind you, I'm going up after Ricky Smiley, who was wearing a handicapped big weight boot
30:14doing a character with the bifocals on.
30:17Yeah.
30:18He ripped.
30:19I'm talking about ripped it.
30:22I'm going up next.
30:23Now, I got chipped teeth.
30:25I ain't going to lie.
30:27I had the two short Excalibur's.
30:30My teeth was so wrecked that I had to make sure my jokes was on point
30:35so they don't see these boys.
30:36Because if you look back at that tape, you're going to be like, oh, damn.
30:41Damn, foolish.
30:42I know you had a little gingivitis with those.
30:46But it was like I went up and I knew exactly what I was going to do in three minutes.
30:55And that's when I did the James Evans.
30:57And that came from more or less seeing a young lady in Palmer Park.
31:04That's where the James Evans joke came from.
31:07And Jerry Springer split.
31:09Like when the dude went on there, it was a chick from Palmer Park.
31:12And they done went on six days and he didn't know that was a man.
31:16I'm like, Palmer Park, man.
31:20You know what I mean?
31:21And she up there laughing like James Evans.
31:23And that's the best part of, to me, like when I look at my humor, like how friendly it was.
31:39It's not abusing stuff like how, like Eddie Murphy looked back at his stuff.
31:44He said, damn, I was bad.
31:48And I'm looking at him like, no, you was with the times.
31:51One thing about this comedy is you got to be with the times.
31:54It's a lot going on in our city, I swear, with the music game.
31:59The time is us right now.
32:03Ice Web Vezo, Peasy, Babyface Ray, Sada Baby, my boy V's.
32:11I'm like, it's a movement.
32:13Cash dial.
32:14And it all started with who?
32:16I don't know.
32:19You tell me.
32:20Because that's your.
32:22M&M.
32:23The respect of Detroit started with M&M.
32:28You can't take nothing away from him because he done built so much up in us.
32:34But now that the streets have taken over, it's the side of Detroit that is ready to be seen.
32:42Before, we were so underground with the Eastside Cheddar Boys.
32:45And, you know, the Street Lords and Rock Bottom.
32:48You know, you look at how the music is now.
32:52It's on another level of how sweet it is.
32:55Before, you know, we sounded a little like, you know, we wasn't in the Dr. Dre studio.
33:01Like, we was off cassette still a little bit.
33:04But I'm bouncing it because, you know.
33:06It's us.
33:07It's us.
33:07Yep.
33:08So now you see the city at a higher plateau.
33:11You say to yourself, how can I move with it?
33:14And we used to tell people that you got to make it a little bit more commercial.
33:19Right.
33:19So that the world can pick it up.
33:21Don't.
33:21You can't die like on stage, fam.
33:23You can't keep doing a gang of drugs and want people that don't do drugs to come rock with you.
33:30Like, because, you know, that's really what it comes to.
33:32It comes to the point to where, yo, can I come to your show without dying?
33:37You know what I mean?
33:38Because I ain't going to lie to you.
33:40If I go to the club, after I hear all the babies, I know I got to leave here, baby.
33:44You done play Lil Baby?
33:48Dumb Baby?
33:48You done hurt all the babies?
33:50All right.
33:50It's time to leave, baby.
33:51You ain't put on no baby face.
33:53And I ain't talking about baby face, right?
33:54I'm going to pin it up.
33:56I'm 54.
33:57Come on, now.
33:58Mix it up.
33:58Listen, Foolish is at Punchline.
34:00We got to get out of here.
34:02Foolish is at Punchline this weekend.
34:04You hear him?
34:05Okay, then.
34:06I got to say, hear me.
34:07You hear him?
34:08Foolish, we always beg for you to come in the studio.
34:13Go ahead, Angie.
34:14Yeah, because we have something in common with Mason.
34:16And I wanted to ask.
34:17Is it okay to ask him about the weed story?
34:20We got a lot of weed stories.
34:21And I don't even smoke.
34:23That's my point.
34:25But Foolish is the one I trusted.
34:28And you came to work and Mae sent you out home.
34:31Yeah, Mae was like, yeah, man.
34:32You ain't going to smoke before you come up here.
34:34He reversed rehab me.
34:37He was like, hey, man, you need to go out to the car, fam.
34:39I don't know what's going on with you.
34:41So just get it together, man.
34:43Come back.
34:44All right?
34:45I said, Foolish.
34:46I said, Foolish.
34:47I said, something not right.
34:49I couldn't even do Belle Isle, man.
34:51I would be like.
34:52Right.
34:52I don't feel right doing the voice.
34:54Foolish had created a lot of stuff.
34:55And then he couldn't do it.
34:56I said, Foolish, you got to go back in the car and go to Belle Isle.
35:00Smoke some.
35:01And then come back.
35:02Yeah.
35:02Yeah.
35:03I ain't going to lie.
35:03See, I mean, because he knows something that happened.
35:08You know what I mean?
35:09And when your stomach hurt or something like that, you got to get it together.
35:12And I know it probably was a hangover because some of these clubs don't be having the liquor
35:16that they say it is.
35:19Foolish.
35:19Ooh.
35:20Talk about it.
35:21See, with Foolish, I really leaned on Foolish.
35:25Foolish was different for me.
35:28And so he would create with me.
35:31And this would be stuff he created.
35:33So I could take his creations and just put them in the pot and stir it.
35:37And he was so good at it.
35:39The funniest stuff would be people would be like, is this Foolish?
35:43That would just, it would, I mean.
35:45He was the master of deception on this microphone.
35:50You don't know who doing the voices.
35:52I swear, he will, he will literally, like, he can change so much in the technology to make
36:00you sound like many things.
36:02Like, for me to do Belle Isle, man, hurt so much just to do.
36:06Then he found a way to, like, okay, just do your voice.
36:09Physically.
36:09It was physically.
36:10Hello, everyone.
36:12Yeah, man, I'm tired of that.
36:13We got it, though.
36:16He was, Foolish, you know, we're super proud of you, man.
36:19We had you, Coco, and Shawnee back in those days.
36:22That's all I had.
36:23And I leaned on Coco, Shawnee, and Foolish.
36:26And look at us.
36:27We still doing it.
36:28Yes.
36:28You know, people ask all the time.
36:30They be like, yo, man, is you going to come back to radio?
36:32We were always one of the same.
36:33Yes.
36:33And I'm like this.
36:34I'm like, look, I like selling weed.
36:36I like selling Cartier's.
36:38I like doing Cartier's.
36:39I like my life being regularly, like, put together by me.
36:45Yeah.
36:46So I would have friends who would come to visit me from out of town.
36:50They smoke.
36:51Now, who I'm going to say?
36:52Who I'm going to walk up to and say?
36:53I'm coming with it.
36:54I'm like, I said, I got one person I can ask.
36:58Don't ask me what kind of weed it is.
37:01Nothing like that.
37:02I got just one guy.
37:03But I guarantee you, you're not going to complain.
37:07They be like, okay, then.
37:08And they wanted to meet him.
37:10After they smoke, they like, who was that, man?
37:13You got to introduce me.
37:13Hey, I sold weed to Frank Ocean.
37:16And I didn't even know, you know, that that was Charles Pugh Frank.
37:21I didn't even know that.
37:22Foolish thanks, man.
37:23He is always, you know, we love you to death, boy.
37:26He's always the same.
37:27He never changed.
37:28He has never changed.
37:29Period.
37:30He has never changed.
37:31When the other comedians come in and talk to us, they consider you like a goat.
37:35You're like one of their favorites.
37:36He's a goat.
37:36They always have great things to say about you, but you're just always down to earth.
37:40One thing I'm going to say for the Honorable Downtown Tony Brown, in his last days, he still
37:49was hilarious.
37:51Yep.
37:51He was at peace, and he became a dog whisperer.
37:58He was messing with exotic dogs.
38:02Really?
38:02And was teaching them language the whole nine, because he's a G.
38:07Tony was an intellectual.
38:10That's right.
38:10That, um, I see him over there hitting you right now.
38:13You're like, you, you're here.
38:16Foolish, foolish.
38:17I'm getting the hell out of here now.
38:18Now I'm going, I love you, foolish.