Maxx Pain In Studio with Mason & Starr
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00:00Ladies and gentlemen, he is here. He is, we call him Max, the movie maker.
00:07Max, Max.
00:08Hey, y'all, what's up, Max?
00:09Hey.
00:10Good morning, Max.
00:11All right, so get right in the middle of that mic.
00:13Hey, Angie, what's going on?
00:14What's up?
00:15There you go.
00:15Tell us what you've been doing since we've seen you last.
00:19I've been working.
00:21I've been working.
00:24The movie has come out on Tubi, Uncle Roommate, last time.
00:27Which is crazy.
00:28That's crazy.
00:29It wasn't out yet.
00:30We were just talking with the cast.
00:31I did the premiere at MGR at that point.
00:34And how did it all go, and where are we with the movie Uncle Roommate?
00:39I ended up getting with Homestead, with Dennis Reed, and distributing through him.
00:44And Uncle Roommate is doing amazing, actually.
00:46Great.
00:47And people from all over the world hitting me with certain lines from the movie and stuff like that.
00:53Wow.
00:53It'd be iconic when you look at it.
00:55It's like, man, we alive, and we constantly putting in work, putting out content.
01:00And for people to keep liking it, I'm going to keep doing it.
01:03For those who are listening for the first time, give them your platforms and run down each movie you have.
01:11I have four feature films out right now on Tubi and Amazon Prime.
01:18My Hitters, My Hitters 2, a musical called The Noise and Music.
01:23Wow.
01:23Okay.
01:24And the latest one, a comedy called Uncle Roommate.
01:26I got J. Will, Fanboy AJ, Big Shorty, Toy Too Tall.
01:33I got Buddy Love.
01:34Okay.
01:35Okay.
01:36Okay.
01:36Comedian D. Pounds, the lead.
01:38He played the lead.
01:39Yep.
01:39We talked to him when he was here.
01:41Monty Shirley.
01:42I had a lot of people in the movie, and they did amazing, honestly.
01:45And I like to get new people, fresh faces for new movies.
01:48I don't like to kind of go and use a lot of stuff.
01:51Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:52And it's interesting, Max, because you need to do an auntie roommate.
01:58And we'll talk about that.
01:59We'll negotiate that.
02:01Because all uncles got an auntie.
02:02They got a wife or somebody that's auntie.
02:05And the second part is a lot of people.
02:07Imagine trouble being in your house.
02:09Listen.
02:09Love.
02:10Listen.
02:11So I've noticed that a lot of people that are doing movies are using comedians.
02:17And this is something.
02:18I had this conversation years ago at the airport with my man that played in Dukes of Hazzard,
02:25the blind hair one.
02:26And I'm at LAX on my way back home.
02:28He's like, I know who you are.
02:29I'm like, I know who you are.
02:31I'm trying to flirt, right?
02:33And he went on to say, you're a comedian, blah, blah, blah.
02:36And we just started talking about acting and all that.
02:38He said the interesting part is, and there's been a few actors that tell me that,
02:41when you get a comedian and you hand them a script,
02:44the creativity is off the chain because we could go through a litany of emotions because
02:50we could be sad, happy, funny, and all of that.
02:54And when you deal with somebody that's a serious actor,
02:56it's hard for them to be funny because it seems forced and canned and all of that.
03:02That's a good point.
03:02So that's why you see a lot of comedians that are doing movies.
03:06And there are comedies, but we can shift gears real quick.
03:09Oh, yeah.
03:09Yeah.
03:10That's beautiful.
03:11Shout out to Auntie Rooney.
03:11Richard Pryor was very good at that.
03:14Yeah, Auntie Roommate.
03:15That's a good point.
03:15Boy, Pryor was just magnificent doing it.
03:21I thought about his movie as we get ready for the Grand Prix, Grease Lightning.
03:26Yeah.
03:27And then he did Which Way Is Up with our friend.
03:29Which Way Is Up.
03:30That's hot.
03:31And then Martin, you remember they came out with a movie back in the day
03:35and all the comedians in it, like Debo was in it.
03:37Yes.
03:37Martin, John.
03:39Cheryl, Andrewell.
03:40Yes.
03:40I was just thinking in my head when I did Uncle Roommate,
03:43I was like, I don't just want to get like a couple of comedians,
03:46like how people usually do here.
03:47I wanted like a sleuth of the comedians.
03:49Okay.
03:50Okay.
03:50So now every character you see, you getting real funny from these people.
03:55And they ain't got, like she said, you don't have to force it.
03:57Yeah.
03:57Yeah.
03:58It's great.
03:58What's the hardest thing for you to do?
04:05Almost challenging.
04:06Because none of it's hard because you do it all.
04:09The most challenging thing more so is when you get to the last few days of filming.
04:16Just keeping everybody with that upbeat so they stay in these characters,
04:20keep the energy on them characters.
04:21Because they can have like such a high energy with the characters in them last few days of filming
04:25and they tired or, you know what I'm saying, or something like that.
04:28And food can't help them with nothing.
04:30Like, so I got to get them back in that.
04:33Let's go.
04:33You know what I'm saying?
04:34This last few days, this movie lasts forever.
04:36You don't want to look like that on the last few days forever.
04:39Right.
04:39You know what I mean?
04:40So I kind of remind them, like, they seeing you, this ain't never coming down.
04:44So your imagination is on a high pitch at all times.
04:47I have to.
04:48I ask God for a certain energy when I'm even doing the movies, period.
04:51Just because you have to.
04:53You, everybody's psychiatrist.
04:55You father.
04:56You all type of stuff on them sets.
04:59I'm brother, uncle.
05:01I'm playing different roles for people in their life just to get them to, you know,
05:05do this movie and make sure everything is straight.
05:07The movie I saw all the way through was Uncle Roommate, which you had a nice part in.
05:14Did you appear in your other movies?
05:17And if so, which one?
05:19I appeared, I actually starred in all of my movies.
05:22That's right.
05:22My whole premise was even doing the movies because I did music.
05:26I'm a rap scene.
05:28I produce the music.
05:29So I was like, what's the way for me to be seen outside of music videos and just going to doing shows?
05:37I'm about to do a movie.
05:38And of course, all my friends was basically like, you can't do a movie.
05:42You ain't got no experience in that.
05:43You know what I'm saying?
05:44You ain't never went to school to use the cameras or none of that.
05:47But I was already shooting my music videos on my own.
05:50They didn't know that I was editing the content too.
05:53So I was like, man, I'm about to do a movie.
05:55Like, I don't really care what y'all saying.
05:56And I took my kids, my daughter.
05:58I put my daughter on the audio for my stepson.
06:01He had the camera.
06:03So I really just started using cousins, all type of just family.
06:06Like, hey, I need y'all.
06:07I need you to hold the lights for this one scene.
06:09And they was doing it.
06:10They was like, bro, you shooting a movie, bro.
06:12I'm going to help you.
06:13But you know what I'm saying?
06:14And then at the end, when it got to the premiere, they're like, you're really premiering the movie?
06:17And then when they seen it, you know, nobody really knew it was going to be like how it was.
06:22You had no movies out.
06:23I'm eavesdropping on a conversation, being nosy.
06:26You were talking to someone I knew who had you on speaker who just totally ignored me.
06:33He didn't care if I was there or not.
06:35You were trying to, you were, one, out of money, two, trying to write a script, three, you were babysitting your own children, which isn't really babysitting.
06:50But you were watching your kids, out of money, trying to write, and you did it anyway.
07:01And just had lost my job from falling asleep in the closet because I had left a scene.
07:07Hold on.
07:08Uh-uh.
07:08No.
07:08Three that morning.
07:09No.
07:10Mm-mm.
07:12It's only one other person I knew fell asleep in the closet.
07:15And he was an orderly that worked with me.
07:17That's why I was calling, checking on the folks.
07:19Nice and quiet.
07:19How did that happen?
07:21Yeah, please.
07:22Set that scene for it.
07:23We had a scene, it was like a scene.
07:25It wasn't even supposed to be that late.
07:26But you know sometimes if the actors ain't getting it right, we got to keep doing this over and over.
07:30So I ain't leave the set probably about 3.30, 4.00, because I got to pack up everything.
07:36You're to be at work at what time?
07:38Like 7.00.
07:39I had to be like 6.30.
07:40So you're packing up 3.30, quarter to 4.00 in the morning.
07:42Get to the house, get in the shower, get right back to work.
07:45So I did the job, though.
07:47It was just like, let me do the job and just go try to see if I can sleep a little bit,
07:50because I got to leave the job and go right back to another scene.
07:53Obviously you didn't wake up.
07:55No, I didn't.
07:56They ended up firing me.
07:57How'd they find you?
07:59It was a guy.
08:00He was watching me.
08:02He snitched?
08:03Yeah, he snitched.
08:04He riding on me.
08:05He 6'9 on me.
08:06It's cool.
08:06But I didn't need that job anyway as far as for what I was doing.
08:10When you really got something that you're going after, sometimes a job ain't really in the forecast.
08:15So he was really a helper.
08:16He was an angel.
08:17Yeah.
08:18He really was an angel.
08:19I wasn't even mad that he told.
08:20I'm like, man, I'm asleep.
08:21I'm like, I just left a set.
08:23He was like, yeah, but you're not supposed to be sleeping.
08:25I'm like, you act like this is a hospital.
08:26I was working at, what's the place that all of the sewer water go to downtown?
08:33Yep.
08:34There.
08:34Right there.
08:35Yep.
08:35I think I'm out.
08:36The Great Lakes sewer.
08:37Whatever they call it.
08:39Yeah.
08:39I was working.
08:40The Dookie.
08:41They call it the Dookie Island.
08:42Yeah.
08:42You know, that's what I would do to go.
08:44So I was working there.
08:46So he basically was doing that.
08:47And I'm like, bro, I done cleaned up any number of offices in there.
08:50He just, they was just doing too much.
08:53That's amazing.
08:54The most, the one moment through all of this that happened to you and you said, oh, I got
09:03to keep going now.
09:05What happened?
09:06Where were you?
09:07You know what, what gave me that right there?
09:10Like actors, like, and I say actors and actresses because a lot of these people who I put in
09:16these movies weren't actors and actresses before I put them in it.
09:19So I basically started a platform for them that they didn't even know that they can
09:23do.
09:24So now a lot of them are pursuing it.
09:26You know what I'm saying?
09:27Like.
09:27And you get off on that.
09:29Yeah.
09:29I like that.
09:30That's like somebody basically writing a rap for me and like, I'm going to get you started
09:34with rapping.
09:34I start rapping and I'm rapping for 20 years.
09:37So.
09:38That juices you.
09:39Yeah.
09:39I like that.
09:41So what was your first movie?
09:42Which one was the first one?
09:45My first movies was kind of violent.
09:47My Hitters one was the first one, but I knew because I had The Noise and Music wrote
09:52before My Hitters.
09:53But let's go back to Hitters because I didn't really know you.
09:56But I, but I, but I, right, right, right, right.
09:59Yeah.
09:59I got my, my story.
10:00Right.
10:00I didn't know you.
10:02And I, and I, and this is, I think it was on, it was on Tubi, right?
10:05Okay.
10:05So like I'm experiencing Tubi for the first time and I'm like, okay, this is from The
10:09Dig.
10:10It's called My Hitters.
10:11I'm like, it's not going to be no real kind of movie.
10:13You know?
10:14So I started watching it.
10:16I was like, I see.
10:16It's just like, I watched it and I was like, ah, this is a good storyline.
10:22This is a good plot.
10:23And I was like into this movie and then it was over.
10:26And then I saw a promo that said what?
10:28Hitter.
10:29My Hitters 2.
10:30My Hitters 2.
10:31So because you was so good in your first movie, you caught me.
10:35So I couldn't wait.
10:36Because then we interviewed.
10:37To see, right.
10:38But I didn't, it was just the way you write for that to be your first movie.
10:43I was like, dang.
10:44And that was real Detroit.
10:45Yeah.
10:45The way you wrote that.
10:47Like, I was like, this is, I mean, it just, you took me on some twists and turns because
10:51I write.
10:52So when someone can take me somewhere where I didn't know I was going to go, that is what
10:57impressed me about you.
10:58So I'm in a restaurant, not, not like a Coney Island.
11:03And somebody see me, they recognize me and they go, hey, Mason, da, da, da, da, da.
11:08This street girl jumps up.
11:10You Mason?
11:11Like, whoa, what did I do?
11:13I went, yeah, yeah.
11:15She said, and you didn't know about my hitters too?
11:19I mean, she went off on me.
11:21I was so delighted.
11:23I'm like, go ahead.
11:24And I just, I wanted her to just keep going.
11:27But she went off on me like, do you own a television?
11:32I mean, that's how she went off on me.
11:34Like, where, where do you come from?
11:37Where do you live?
11:38You, you never seen my hitters too?
11:40And she was talking about too.
11:42And I knew, I knew that violent content will work more so.
11:45Uh, didn't, but it had to be a good move.
11:47Yeah, you had violent content, but you had wisdom in it too.
11:50A lot of people got violent content.
11:51You feel me?
11:51Street wisdom.
11:52I commercialized it though.
11:53Okay.
11:53If you really look at my hitters, like I.
11:56That's business.
11:56I made every character to where it was like, you would want to follow every character's
12:00story.
12:01Okay.
12:01Serious.
12:01I'm telling you, like he, I didn't know him personally, but I knew it was from Detroit.
12:06Anything from Detroit that looks good, that I know that the world is going to watch.
12:10I'm, I'm impressed with when they produce something of quality.
12:13And so I couldn't wait for hitters too.
12:15But then I want to say, I, again, was in the, like I had my fire stick, so I was in the
12:20Tubi world.
12:21Okay.
12:22And it was like on Tubi, they say, what's coming?
12:25What's, what you should watch.
12:26Every time you click on your stuff, what, what, what they recommend you should watch.
12:30What came up?
12:31Noise.
12:32What's your, came up like a big, the second one, third one, third, the third.
12:37But my point is, Hulu, whoever that company is, puts his movies up first.
12:43For promo.
12:44For promo.
12:45Yeah.
12:45Now, I don't know because we're in Detroit or what.
12:47Because they're good.
12:48But because they're good.
12:49It promotes the network.
12:49It depends on the type of the movies you watch.
12:52I'm a gangster, so yeah.
12:53I mean, I mean it like that.
12:56It's an algorithm that Tubi kind of puts you into.
13:00Because you may have watched some of my other films, it'll have my film, my newer films
13:06and like you'll recommend it.
13:07How did you learn what to do?
13:10See, you, when you came along, by the time I met you, there weren't a lot of people from
13:19here doing Tubi.
13:20They had made gas station movies for DVD.
13:23They had not gone to the streaming companies.
13:26No.
13:26You went to the streaming companies.
13:28How's that happen?
13:29The only one who was like on Tubi at that time was like Dennis Reed.
13:34I know the bad girls.
13:36Will, I don't know Will's whole name, but he had a filmmaker.
13:38Ramirez got the bad girls, the bad girls too.
13:40He had one on there.
13:43Pond Shop was on there.
13:44It was only like a few.
13:45It wasn't a lot.
13:46You know what I'm saying?
13:47You're not talking about Will Packer, are you?
13:49Packer.
13:49No, not Packer.
13:50Okay.
13:51Pond Shop is what Foolish was in.
13:52Foolish was in Pond Shop.
13:53Right, right, right.
13:54Foolish, Kool-Aid, Crystal Pea.
13:56Yeah.
13:56It wasn't that many.
13:59And my hitters wasn't even...
14:01I had my hitters on YouTube.
14:03Like when I did the movie, I put all that money into it.
14:06It wasn't no Tubi and Amazon Prime in my head.
14:09You know, I didn't know about those spaces.
14:10So it was more so like, all right, let me just put it on YouTube and see what it do.
14:13And then it ended up going viral on YouTube.
14:15On YouTube?
14:16Yeah, so it had like my hitters, one had got to like six million views and I had put two
14:22out and two had got to like a million and they took the content down because they was
14:27reporting it because they said kids was watching this content.
14:30It was violent.
14:30Right.
14:30So this is when I'm kind of responsible for YouTube changing the rules.
14:35You know, like they changed the content rules after that.
14:37Sure.
14:37Amazing.
14:38Where you had to put like if it's for kids or not.
14:41And I was wondering, like they took my whole page down for that.
14:43But I had like, you know, 50, 60,000 subscribers.
14:46That's amazing.
14:46But it was cool because like somebody came to me like, your movie had a lot of views.
14:50You know, did you want to try to get distribution for it?
14:52I'm like, yeah, for sure.
14:53So Cherry ended up getting me to a guy at One Shot, Curtis Boss.
14:58He got a few movies on there and he got me distribution through Andy Rice.
15:02Real quick before I go.
15:03I know.
15:04Yeah, we got to go.
15:04But just the wisdom and the way you write your scripts.
15:08Again, Noise and the Music, you learned about the Detroit musics.
15:12You learn the behind the scenes.
15:14You learn what your characters go through.
15:17The depth of your writing.
15:18I'm telling you because I write.
15:19So I'm very impressed with you.
15:22But that's why people, you get so many views and people are loving your work.
15:26Because you just, your whole package is, I think people, Detroit is such a mysterious place.
15:33So if you can kind of live in that world for a minute and the way you bring theater of the mind to life is phenomenal.
15:38So I applaud you.
15:40I love your work.
15:41What will we see next from you, Max?
15:44I got some good stuff coming.
15:46Auntie Roommate.
15:47Auntie Roommate.
15:48We didn't get into any good.
15:49Look, Uncle Roommate do got a continuation.
15:52What I'm trying to do is turn Uncle Roommate into a series.
15:55That sounds like it.
15:57I'm trying to go to NBC or something like that.
15:59Make it a little cleaner, of course.
16:01How can people see your movies?
16:03You go on Tubi or Amazon Prime.
16:05You can just put my real name in, Kevin Caldwell.
16:08Okay.
16:08All my films will pop up.
16:10I got like albums.
16:11I'm going to do that today.
16:12I'm going to go home.
16:13Go get me some fish.
16:14Go to Google.
16:14You're going to love it.
16:15So go to Google.
16:17Right?
16:17You can just go to Google and you can just type in Kevin, Max Payne, Caldwell or my hitters or anything.
16:23All my movies are going to come up.
16:24Then everything will come up.
16:26Max, thanks for spending some time with us again today.
16:28Yes.
16:29I appreciate it too.
16:30Yeah, man.
16:30Always appreciate it.
16:31And thank you for working in excellence and representing the D correctly.
16:35Thank you so much.
16:36I got an album coming too, Mason.
16:37Oh, yeah?
16:37A musical album.
16:38You know, music is my passion and reality.
16:41Film is just something I got into.
16:43I like the difficulty of film.
16:44You keep saying it.
16:45This is where he and I have an argument all the time.
16:47He keeps saying he does music.
16:49I said, you do movies.
16:51He could do both.
16:52No, he does.
16:52Oh, no doubt.
16:53He does.
16:54Music is such a passionate thing for me though.
16:57You know what I'm saying?
16:57Watch this.
16:58This is a shameless plug.
16:59You know Auntie Roommate could sing too.
17:01You know you.
17:02That's all you know.
17:03I got to have Coco and Uncle Roommate sing.
17:06Max, thanks again, man.
17:07Appreciate you.
17:08Lots of luck to you.
17:09Thanks for real.
17:10Thank you so much.
17:11Max, the movie maker.
17:13The real deal.