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00:00I'm lucky enough to speak with a lot of great fighters, but almost always I get them right
00:04before a fight. So whenever they come in, I have to be extremely sensitive to the fact that they're
00:09sucking weight and in training camp and the whole deal. Along comes Conor Benn. Comes in,
00:14we have a whole room full of tacos today because we're talking to him on Cinco de Mayo. I said,
00:18I'm sorry about all the taco stuff. He was like, sorry, mind if I grab a taco, which is one of the
00:22most refreshing things that I've done so far with any of the fighters. Welcome to Bar Soul Sports,
00:26Conor. It's a pleasure to be talking to you for the first time. How are we doing? How are we
00:30feeling after this weekend's fight? I feel great, but even better after than tacos.
00:34Right. Now I ask you how you're feeling because I had seen a clip from your opponent's dad saying
00:41that in the hospital, his head blew up to almost twice the size and already huge head on Chris
00:46Eubank Jr. And now you've essentially turned him into a bull mastiff. Have you had any kind of
00:51injuries from it or did you come through this relatively unscathed? I mean, I had a little
00:54bit of a sore head, um, sore back, sore muscles. I got a little bit of a sore chest still, but
01:00you know, I was back in the gym on the Monday straight after the fight.
01:04And if you guys are wondering why that's an incredible feat is because this weekend in front
01:09of a sold out crowd at Tottenham Hotspur Arena Stadium, whatever you want to call it. These two
01:15guys, Conor Benn and Chris Eubanks Jr. put on a fight for the ages, absolute slugfest, automatic fight
01:23of the year so far. And I don't know what's going to beat it coming away from that fight.
01:29First of all, thank you for coming in because a lot of times when you don't, if you're not on the
01:33right side of a decision, you don't do a ton of press. So this is very refreshing to come and talk
01:38to you like this, but coming out of that fight just for the scope of where you were fighting and
01:45the scope of the performance that you put on. Can you give me an idea of what that was like?
01:50Well, first off, I mean, you win some, you lose some. It's life. It's just, you know, part
01:55of what life is, you know, you don't succeed without failure. And, you know, I felt like
02:02I had won the fight, felt like I'd nicked the fight, but ultimately I'm not going to cry
02:06over spilled milk. You know, we just got to run it back and get going again. But it was
02:12phenomenal. You know, it was like something out of a movie where you sit there and you go,
02:17wow, we did this. We captured the imagination of the public, not just the British public,
02:22but global. You know, it felt like the world sort of come to a standstill to watch this
02:28fight. I think that just because there was such substance behind it and a big story, 35
02:34years worth of storylines.
02:35It really is. It's a unicorn because you guys are going to put on a performance either
02:43way. Then you have that background with the dads. Then you have, I mean, the egg thing
02:50was the silliest thing in the world, but it did create some sort of viral presence for
02:57people who didn't. Who the fuck just threw an egg or hit somebody else with an egg? It
03:00just created kind of headlines, which I think added to the fact where Eddie's like, I don't
03:05think all the numbers are in, but we got over a million pay-per-views already. We sold out.
03:09Well done.
03:09That's crazy.
03:10Yeah. Well done.
03:11Yeah.
03:11You know, give me, give me a pat on the back. If that helped, then it helped, you know,
03:16it's all part of the game. It's just, it is what it is. It's boxing. It's the entertainment
03:21business.
03:22Yeah.
03:22People love a little bit of thrill. People love a little bit of controversy.
03:25Yeah.
03:26You know, and getting slapped in the egg with a face, you know, unfortunately that had
03:29to be me, but you know, it sells.
03:32By the way, security didn't pat me down. I got a couple of eggs on me, but I would never
03:35use them.
03:35You've got some eggs on you.
03:36Yeah.
03:36I'll be careful now if I was you, mate.
03:39Yeah. Oh yeah, I certainly will. I know that Chris had said that he brought two. He
03:42was going to hit Eddie maybe with one. If that would have happened, that fight would
03:45have been canceled. Pretty boy like Eddie gets his hair messed up. They're calling that
03:48thing off.
03:49To be fair, I think Eddie would have given him a good scrap to be fair. I think he would have
03:52used his reach and kept him at the end of the jab.
03:53He's a big man. Was there any kind of difference with that type of crowd as far as it had your
03:59adrenaline going? Did you find that you were Conor Benn inside a ring with a little bit
04:04extra behind you because of that atmosphere?
04:07I mean, it's hard to say. All I do know is it was the quickest 36 minutes of my life.
04:11Right.
04:12It flew by, but I think they could have been Mickey Mouse or Donald Duck sitting ringside.
04:15I probably wouldn't have noticed.
04:16Okay.
04:17You know, because I was so dialed in sitting there. It could have been anywhere. But yeah,
04:23it could have been anywhere. I mean, I just took it in my stride. It's just once I got
04:28to the arena, the stadium, I was just in my element.
04:31But did you get that out of your system? Like, hey, look where we are. Like maybe before
04:37you go on, like you see that with...
04:38No, I took it in. I completely took it in.
04:42Right. Okay.
04:42Yeah. I completely like absorbed it. Did it give me more oomph? I mean, it was the quickest
04:4936 minutes of my career.
04:50Right. You're not a Tottenham fan though, right? Are you...
04:53I'm a West Ham fan.
04:54West Ham fan.
04:55I don't really follow football.
04:58But I know if somebody did follow football and they did that, you might get shit from
05:01the West Ham people.
05:01Probably.
05:01But you didn't get anything from that.
05:02No, no, nothing. I mean, I don't think so anyway.
05:04Yeah. Talk to me about the weight. We spoke about it a little bit before we came in here.
05:08You're at your deadliest at what weight?
05:11Welterweight.
05:11Welterweight. Okay. So when you're at 147 pounds, you feel that you're at your deadliest or I
05:18don't want to put words in your mouth, but unbeatable at 147 pounds. If you don't feel
05:21that way as a boxer, you're not doing your job, right?
05:24Of course.
05:24So then coming up in weight and him coming down in weight, did you feel like that would
05:30be the difference that's in your favor? Because I've always found it easier to gain weight
05:34than lose it my whole life.
05:35Well, it's just that his natural weight, he's competed at this weight his whole career.
05:42Majority of his career, bar two free fights, you know, so his last four fights have been
05:47at this weight. Whereas me, this was my first fight up at this weight.
05:51What did you feel about that in training camp where weight is always an issue anytime you
05:57fight at 140? Do you find it hard to get to 147?
05:59I haven't made it for three years, so we'll see.
06:02Okay. So how do you feel about this camp? Well, all of a sudden you didn't have any kind
06:05of constraints as far as that goes to get there. Was that an easier thing for you?
06:10Yeah. I was fueled for every session.
06:13Right.
06:13You know, I was constantly in a calorie, I was still in a calorie deficit, I couldn't
06:20get enough calories down me. But my structure, my frame size, I'm not a 160 fighter.
06:26Right.
06:27You know, for me to be walking around near that weight, 164, 165, when I'm dieting, you know,
06:34I could make 147 relatively comfortable. But of course, it's going to be hard to get down
06:40to 147. But that's where I'm at my most dangerous.
06:47When the fight had ended and you were on the ropes, kind of just looking off into the
06:52distance, can you tell me what went through your mind then?
06:55I thought I had just won the fight. So I didn't. I had to process the fact that I hadn't won
06:59the fight.
07:00Okay.
07:00And then I couldn't process the scorecards because they weren't reflective of...
07:05I agree.
07:05You know, they weren't reflective of the fight. So I was just sitting there thinking,
07:11going, standing there going, did I really lose by that much then? And I'm sitting there
07:17going, well, surely not.
07:21Right.
07:22You know,
07:22it's just tough to believe.
07:24But then maybe I did then.
07:25You had said something, you know, maybe I spent too much time on the ropes.
07:28Yeah.
07:28Now that, and again, I very rarely have the opportunity to speak to fighters fresh off
07:34of a fight because there's so much on the promotion leading up to it.
07:38Yeah, of course.
07:38So when you're sitting there and I don't think either decision could have ever, could
07:44even be called a robbery because it was that close of a fight.
07:47No, it's not a robbery.
07:47No.
07:47I thought that the cards were way too...
07:50The cards were the robbery.
07:52That was, yeah, that was the incorrect part of it.
07:55But I don't think anyone could feel like it went either way, but it should, it wasn't
08:00judged by that.
08:01And listen, that's the problem for me with boxing.
08:04Yeah.
08:04My biggest problem with boxing, we'll talk about in a second, is the judging.
08:07So when you have something like that, and now you've gone back and looked at the tape,
08:12I'm assuming that you go back...
08:13I've not watched it back, no.
08:14You haven't watched it back yet.
08:15Okay.
08:16Is that one of the things that you're going to get to, or is it something that you want
08:18to put in the rear view mirror and not see again?
08:19No, it's an effort.
08:20I'll watch it back, but it's a challenge.
08:22Really?
08:23Like, I've got to build up the courage to watch it back.
08:26Right.
08:26So then, is rematch the first thing?
08:28I mean, I know a lot of fighters say, it's the first thing that's on your mind when you're
08:32in there, you get that, and you're looking up at the crowd.
08:34Because again, it's an emotional moment for us watching as fans, you know, you stand up
08:38the crowd, I'm like, what the fuck is he thinking about, other than the fact that he
08:40wants to get back in the ring and knock this guy's head off?
08:42Well, I was back in the gym on the Monday, so let that tell you everything it needs to say.
08:46Right.
08:47He's still eating food out of a straw.
08:49So I mean, that tells you too how close this fight was.
08:53So, you know.
08:53That's what I mean.
08:54I can't, I can't in my head process it.
08:56He's, as you said, you know, eating food for a straw on, on the Monday.
09:00And I'm, I'm like doing, I'm on the treadmill for 30 minutes and doing a strength program.
09:06You're eating tacos with large.
09:07That's what I mean.
09:09So like, you know, I was sitting there, I just, I just didn't feel like it was.
09:16No, I hear you.
09:17So what about, so September is when they say that it might happen.
09:20September, the rematch.
09:21And obviously things have to fall into place.
09:24This was a fight that was three years in the making.
09:26So if there's something where it doesn't happen in September, but it happens later on before
09:29the new year or early next year, that's probably something that could be on the table.
09:34But is it that you want to get right back into it in September and get that rematch?
09:38I mean, I'm ready to fight again this Saturday.
09:40Right.
09:41Okay.
09:41So I genuinely like, just want to get back.
09:45I want, I'll like, as soon as I can.
09:47Okay.
09:48Like as soon as I can.
09:49What do I mean?
09:49As soon as I can.
09:51As soon as I can.
09:51What are you going to do different?
09:53Because now I can ask that question.
09:54There's a lot of things I'm going to do different, man.
09:55Okay.
09:56One of the things you're going to do different is you're going to win.
09:58I was.
09:58Can you leave it up into the judges' scorecards?
10:00Do you feel you need to knock them out?
10:02I feel like I displayed, I can do it for 12.
10:06With a middleweight.
10:07And wobbling three, four times.
10:10You know, so I, what more do you want?
10:13I'm a welterweight who's come in there to fight a middleweight.
10:15Who's competed at super middleweight.
10:17And wobbled in three, four times.
10:20And, and done 12 rounds.
10:23Yeah, no.
10:23I mean, you put him on ice skates a couple of times.
10:25You know, I kept the intensity all the way through.
10:27Round 11 and 12, you know, was, he was tired.
10:30So he's falling in, making the work, you know, sloppy and, not sloppy, man.
10:36Falling in and making it reckless.
10:38A slugfest.
10:39Which I should have used my movement to, to not allow him to push me back to the ropes.
10:43There's a few things that would have changed in terms of what I had done.
10:46But, you know, those, those, I can change those for sure.
10:49I know that weight divisions exist for a reason.
10:54I'm close friends with Canelo.
10:56And when Canelo was doing the b-ball fight, the first one, I said, please don't fucking do the fight.
11:00But it seems like boxers sometimes get into that mindset.
11:03Everybody wants to be Manny Pacquiao and win straps in eight divisions or something like that.
11:09But they do exist for a reason.
11:11This wasn't a case of you saying, I'm going to go up and see if I can fight up at this level.
11:15Or at least just yet, this was a case of you saying, this is a fight of destiny, right?
11:19I'm going to fight this son of a bitch.
11:21The same way my dad fought his dad.
11:23I use son of a bitch in a term.
11:25Yeah, I get it.
11:26Yeah, I don't mean it.
11:27Yeah, I get it.
11:27I don't want him hitting me either, to be honest with you.
11:29I got to fight this son of a bitch because it's almost like a thing of destiny.
11:32But otherwise, you don't have much desire to fight up there again.
11:36No, no, no.
11:37Except if it's against.
11:38I'll only fight you bank at 160 up there.
11:40Okay.
11:41And drop back down.
11:41I'm not, I don't want to stay at 154.
11:43I don't want to fight at 160 again.
11:45It's you bank call 147.
11:47And that's because you're 28.
11:49You're naturally going to start to get fat like me.
11:51And maybe that happens somewhere else.
11:53Not like me.
11:54I hear you.
11:54Yeah, yeah.
11:54I mean.
11:56Exactly.
11:56No, that face is.
11:57That's the most insulting thing I said to him today, by the way, John.
11:59Yeah.
12:00That he's going to fucking look like me.
12:01That makes me feel like shit.
12:03I didn't say, no.
12:03I didn't say fat.
12:04You said it.
12:05I thought you were in good shape.
12:06Oh, there's a fucking compliment there.
12:08I appreciate that, sir.
12:09So you don't have any, like, if you gradually go up there.
12:14Yes.
12:14I gradually will.
12:15Not now.
12:15As your body gets bigger and stuff like that.
12:17No, no.
12:17I've got a small window, I think, for, to get this 147 world title.
12:21So if Eubank isn't next, it will be the 147 world title.
12:25But also, if it's, if Eubank doesn't happen next, it won't happen again.
12:30Okay.
12:31Talk to me about, because my audience is almost exclusively here in the U.S.
12:37And I try to tell people that United States boxing fans are okay.
12:42They're okay.
12:43Okay.
12:43And sometimes we have Mexican boxing fans who make fights because they go absolutely bananas.
12:49I will tell you, Canada has a sneaky, crazy boxing fans up there that you see.
12:55But the U.K. has the best boxing fans in the world.
12:57I agree.
12:57I watched Ricky Hatton get his ass knocked out by Floyd Mayweather.
13:03The whole place was cleared out except for a couple of Brits.
13:05Somehow they fucking snuck a saxophone in.
13:08There's only one.
13:09We're from Ricky Hatton.
13:10It's nothing like it.
13:12So can you explain to us, and obviously you have a little bit of a different story because
13:16you grew up in a boxing family.
13:17What boxing means to the average sports fan inside of England and why that makes them
13:24the best boxing fans in the world.
13:25They just get behind their own.
13:27When they love someone, they get behind them.
13:28They follow them around the world.
13:30They are hardcore fans.
13:33And they get behind their fighters.
13:35I think you have darts.
13:36You have darts and boxing.
13:40What else is there?
13:41Darts, boxing, and football.
13:43Paul Snooker.
13:45Snooker, yeah.
13:45My cousin was a professional snooker player, and I was like, how do you make a living doing
13:49that?
13:50Yeah, yeah.
13:50So I'll say those are like the humble sports of just the everyday man who follows sport,
13:57follows boxing.
13:58Do you want to have a global footprint now that you kind of, I mean, I don't know if you
14:04can raise your level.
14:05I just want people to go, we've got to watch that fire.
14:10We've got to watch Conor Ben fire.
14:12Now you're must-see TV.
14:14Yeah, that's it.
14:15What you did.
14:15Value for money.
14:16Right, exactly.
14:17Because so many people tune in.
14:18I took people to a NASCAR race this weekend down in Talladega in Alabama, and I wound up
14:22being a stinker.
14:23I've taken a lot of people to fights where it becomes 12 rounds of dry humping to a
14:28weird decision.
14:29Yeah, so I'd rather lose an exciting fight than win a boring fight.
14:34That's, yeah.
14:35I mean, that's kind of refreshing for me to hear.
14:38That's the way I am, because ultimately I'm going to lose some fights, but I'm going to
14:42win some, I'm going to win loads more as well, you know, so it's just part of the game.
14:46With my style, it's just about sheer excitement and giving people value for money, putting bums
14:51on seats.
14:52Because I'm not here for a long time.
14:53I'm here for a good time.
14:54Will you keep the 18 by 18 in the rematch, or would you give yourself a little bit more
15:00room to win?
15:00I'd keep the 18 by 18.
15:01You like fighting in the phone booth?
15:03Yeah, yeah, for sure.
15:03I mean, after round six, I had written in a blog today, it looked like you guys were tied
15:07together by your left feet.
15:09I mean, nobody gave up any ground, and you'd mentioned a couple times where you wobbled
15:13the hell out of him.
15:14He legitimately looked like he was on ice skates.
15:16Yeah, yeah.
15:16But outside of that, there was no backing up at all during that fight.
15:20Yeah.
15:20I mean, it's one of those ones that should go down, like Ward-Gaudi, those type of battles.
15:25Yeah.
15:26How does it feel to be part of that?
15:27I mean, people are going to say that in the same breath as, you know, Mickey Ward-
15:31Do you know what's so funny is so many people have said that, and I sit there and go, did
15:36I do that?
15:37Yeah.
15:37Did I do that?
15:38Right.
15:39It's just, it still blows my mind, because you don't know you've got it in you until
15:43you have, it comes down to it.
15:45Like, imagine me jumping up two weight divisions to deliver this fight.
15:50I sit there and I go, like, people are going, yeah, it's going to be, it's a classic.
15:54It's better than the first dad's fight.
15:56So I'm sitting there going, did I just do that?
15:58Yeah.
15:59Have I really done that?
16:00Yeah.
16:00But I don't even want to watch it back.
16:02Yeah.
16:02But I'm just like, that on its own, for me, is like, I made it.
16:11And on top of it all, you did it on the perfect platform.
16:14Yeah.
16:14If you guys had did that in some sort of, you know, smoker at some local place, it would
16:21have kind of got lost in history.
16:23But at least now, I think you've put your stamp on it.
16:25Yeah.
16:25I feel like I've definitely, I think me and Chris have really changed the narrative of
16:31you've got to come from nothing to be a good fighter.
16:34Because the reality is, we're both, people want to say Nepo kids, or people want to say
16:38Silver Spooned, but ultimately, it's not about your sphere.
16:45It's not about the way you were raised, it's in you.
16:49The reality is, I was raised in church.
16:50I used to sing in the church choir, play the guitar, used to skateboard, used to listen
16:56to, you know, heavy metal music, you know, and lived a very privileged, luxury life.
17:04And I fight like I come from out the mud.
17:06Right.
17:07Yeah.
17:07You know, but I don't know nothing about getting out of the mud.
17:09But doesn't, but isn't that partially because your dad?
17:12Like, isn't your dad kind of pushing me as far as that?
17:14He knows what it takes.
17:16Not really, because I still, I still woke up in a mansion.
17:18My parents still didn't work.
17:20I still went to private school.
17:21I still lived a very blessed life.
17:24But you just have that fire in your belly.
17:27Right.
17:27You have that, you have that, that spirit in you.
17:32And you're born with that.
17:34You can't, you can't nurture it.
17:36You can't just get it.
17:37Yeah, that's nature.
17:38You're born, you're born with it.
17:40It skipped me.
17:41I'm more of a natural cowboy.
17:44And do you know what?
17:45Otherwise I would have hit you with the angle already if I'm fucking terrified.
17:48Yeah, yeah.
17:49So you're here in the United States, you're here in New York with us now.
17:52I think you said next stop is going to be Miami before you head back home, correct?
17:55Yes.
17:56Which is kind of nice, you know, a little thing.
17:57But one of the reasons that you're here is we have this big fight going on.
18:00It's a huge fight weekend with Canelo fighting in Saudi Arabia versus William Scull.
18:04And then you have this fight over here in Times Square just a couple of blocks away.
18:09where you got Ryan Garcia, Devin Haney, and Teofimo Lopez on the card, right?
18:15So we have three fights out in the middle of Times Square.
18:17How do you feel about this big night of fighting?
18:20Because you're here for that.
18:21I'm so excited.
18:23Again, it's history.
18:25I've just gone from making history to then attending history, you know, two weekends on the run.
18:30Right.
18:31You know, so I'm excited to see, well, how can you have boxing in the Times Square?
18:36I went over there.
18:38It's an absolute shit show.
18:39I don't know how they're going to close this place down.
18:41It's fucking crazy.
18:43I can't seem to process it, but it's history.
18:48Yeah.
18:49I mean, it's just a wild thing to see.
18:51But you're not talking about just putting on some mediocre show.
18:54You're talking about putting on some of the best fighters in the world in Times Square.
18:57They didn't have to do that.
18:59Like, to your point, to have Haney, Garcia, and Teofimo on the same card,
19:04put it in the Mecca in Madison Square Garden.
19:06So, yeah, but...
19:07You're walking by Madison Square Garden to get to it.
19:09Yeah, but imagine just walking past as a guest.
19:11Yeah.
19:12You're walking past as a tourist.
19:14Yeah.
19:14Oh, look.
19:15Ryan Garcia.
19:16Fine.
19:16It just blows my mind.
19:18But what I think is going to be a great event.
19:21You've got to understand.
19:23They're changing boxing.
19:24They're changing the landscape of boxing.
19:26You know, and the vision they have.
19:28So, I'm looking forward to seeing this event.
19:30How it plays out.
19:31How it unfolds.
19:32Because they must have a vision that I'm not.
19:35I can't see happening.
19:37But it's happening.
19:38Yes.
19:38And they've made it happen.
19:39Is it gimmicky?
19:40No.
19:41No, not at all.
19:42Like, because why is boxing doing this?
19:45Like, I can understand filling up a stadium in England with crazy British fans for that.
19:54Like, that makes sense.
19:55Going big.
19:55And you have to admit to me that you know the people who had bad seats to your fight probably couldn't even see it.
20:03And you know they didn't care because they knew they were being part of something special.
20:07And everybody was absolutely crazy.
20:08There's going to be more babies made in nine months from now because of that kind of thing.
20:12Because guys come home being like, you know what I mean?
20:13Yeah, yeah, yeah.
20:14But it's a shit seat.
20:15It is what it is.
20:17So, I wonder if it.
20:19But it made sense.
20:21This does make sense to me.
20:22I'm wondering how it's going to work out.
20:23It's made history.
20:24Yeah.
20:24So, it's made sense.
20:25It's the first time it's done it.
20:26Yeah.
20:27It's made history.
20:28So, it's made sense.
20:29You can't have an opinion on it until the fights have happened.
20:31Yeah.
20:32Because you might sit there and go, wow.
20:34What a moment.
20:35We were there yesterday as they were setting up the stage.
20:37I've not seen the set up.
20:38Okay.
20:38I've not seen the set up.
20:39I mean, I've driven past it.
20:40Right.
20:40And I'm sitting there going, I can't process it.
20:43Crossroad of the world, it's called.
20:44But the craziest things that people would never even think of that seem to take place always end up being the best things that have happened.
20:51Yeah.
20:51You know, so for me, I am really genuinely excited to see this set up, excited to see the fights, you know, some of the best fighters in the world competing all on the same card, all in the similar same way, who could be future opponents of it one another.
21:06You know, so, yeah.
21:08You said future opponents of one another.
21:10I know you have wood to chop.
21:12I know you have wood to chop with Eubank.
21:14But if you see, Teofimo can very easily fight Welter.
21:18I mean, me and Teo are under the same management.
21:20So, likely that won't happen.
21:22All right.
21:22So, then let's talk about it.
21:23Devin Haney, let's talk about Ryan Garcia.
21:25I'm not interested in Haney.
21:26I'm here to see Garcia.
21:28Okay.
21:28I'm here to see him win a W.A. World title.
21:30He's moved up to 147.
21:32So, you know.
21:34Anything about Garcia that you say, I could pick that kid apart?
21:39Yeah, loads.
21:40Oh, there's loads of things I see.
21:41You know, he said he sees loads of holes in me.
21:43I see loads of holes in him.
21:44Right.
21:44You know, loads of holes.
21:47You've got to remember Luke Campbell knocked him down.
21:50Javonna Davis stopped him with a body shot.
21:53And those are just public things that everybody's seen.
21:57Not what I've seen, you know, in terms of dissecting him.
22:02I think it's a great fight to make.
22:05Especially one minute from a stadium back home.
22:07Or I'll happily come over here.
22:09The love I get shown over here in the U.S. is unbelievable.
22:12So, that is a fight definitely that can happen next.
22:15And likely would happen next if it's not Eubank.
22:18You don't have to fight in England after this second fight with Eubank.
22:22You've given...
22:23I think if you were to now take a big blockbuster fight over here before that fight with Eubank,
22:29your fans would be like, why did you just screw us?
22:31Why didn't you give us the opportunity to come to see?
22:33But you've given them some...
22:34And I'm assuming that the second one's going to be an absolute banger.
22:37And then it's a global type thing for you.
22:39Do you know what?
22:40I feel like a fight with Ryan here, although it would be unbelievable, obviously,
22:46and loads of Brits would travel.
22:47I feel like I want to do my best to make up for the three years,
22:52two and a half years that I missed out on fighting back home.
22:55I want to do my best because I owe that to the public.
22:58Okay.
22:59You don't think you're paying him back a little bit this past Saturday?
23:02I mean...
23:02That should have happened anyway.
23:04Right.
23:05Okay.
23:06Yeah.
23:06That should have happened anyway.
23:07I will tell you right now, boxing, I think, is on the come.
23:11Like, you know, boxing has had peaks and valleys throughout history.
23:14This fight wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for Turkey El Sheik.
23:19And that's the difference.
23:20I promise you now this fight wouldn't have happened.
23:22For His Excellency Turkey El Sheik.
23:24I mean, outside of the obvious, he has a lot of money.
23:28Yeah.
23:28Is there something special about that guy that just would convince you to...
23:32He wants to make the biggest and the best fights at all costs.
23:36You know, and, you know, he doesn't scrimp and scrape and, you know, try and cut corners.
23:40He wants to get the job done.
23:41He wants to, you know, put the fights on that are in demand.
23:46Right.
23:46You know, and people going, oh, you know, that'll never happen.
23:49That won't ever happen.
23:49I think when he first came into boxing, he made Deontay Wilder and...
23:53Was it Deontay Wilder and AJ on the same card?
23:55Mm-hmm.
23:56Yeah.
23:57Blow my mind.
23:58Then you've got promoters working together.
24:00What's the Christmas card too, right?
24:02So you sit there and you go, this man's great for boxing and he's changing the landscape
24:06of boxing.
24:07And for me to be involved in the Eubank fight and it being as big as it was, you know, 23.8
24:13billion impressions the fight had, you sit there and you go...
24:18It's fucking tight.
24:1923.8...
24:20Yeah, exactly.
24:21So you sit there and you go, this man just made me a superstar.
24:26Right.
24:27Do you understand?
24:28I don't understand because I haven't had him approach me yet.
24:32But I'm waiting for him to put me up into the stratosphere.
24:34I'll point in a good word.
24:35Fury fights Joshua somewhere.
24:38I mean, where does that then fall for...
24:40And they have to do that in England first.
24:42Make a fight, biggest fight in British history.
24:46Obviously, the fight with me and Eubanks is a story.
24:50Right.
24:50You know, like it's just a long...
24:51It's a movie.
24:53Right.
24:53You know, but ultimately, AJ Fury's a humongous fight.
24:59I don't think there could be a bigger fight made in the UK after what you guys had done
25:04this weekend than that.
25:05Like, if they give you some half-assed thing, people wouldn't go.
25:08Do you know what?
25:09It was emotional because you had the younger generation.
25:12It appealed to so many generations.
25:13You had the younger generation.
25:14Then you had the older from my dad.
25:16So, it was like the whole nation was to come to a standstill.
25:19Yeah.
25:20And just watch the fight.
25:22It was the maddest thing.
25:23How was it with your dad afterwards?
25:25Is that too personal to ask?
25:26No, no.
25:27My dad, when we was in the sauna, we was...
25:29When me and my dad were in the sauna, we was joking around.
25:33He said something.
25:33And I had a little moan-up about him.
25:35And he went, yeah, you loser.
25:37Did you get to that?
25:38He went, you loser.
25:39He gotcha.
25:40I went, I looked at him.
25:41What did you say?
25:42Right, right, yeah.
25:43I was like, oh, that caught me deep.
25:45But I just started laughing.
25:46I was like, Dad, it's like the day after the fight, mate.
25:49Like, give me some grace.
25:51I fought the nerve on you, mate.
25:52Because to see the interaction with the sons and dads.
25:55And on the one side, we didn't know if Eubank's dad was going to show up there for a while.
25:59I was happy he did.
26:00Yeah, and he absolutely showed up, you know, wearing that jacket, too.
26:03Like, he just got out of some sort of, you know, sci-fi movie.
26:06Bizarre.
26:06Bizarre jacket.
26:07I mean, only he can pull it off.
26:08Yeah, 100%.
26:09I kind of liked it.
26:10And then seeing you and your dad, it was just something that's very special.
26:14So I'm going to wrap it up.
26:16But this is kind of bad.
26:17It's the first time that I'm speaking to him.
26:19I hope it's not the last time.
26:20I want to thank you again on behalf of all boxing fans here in the United States.
26:24And obviously, I don't have to thank you for the guys over in the UK.
26:27But for putting on a show that I think it lived up to the hype for, not for once,
26:34but it lived up to the hype more so than any fight that I can think of in my head.
26:39Because the buildup with this for the generational, you know, headbutting with the dads and the sons was just great.
26:46So I wish you the best of luck going forward.
26:48I can't wait for September and beyond.
26:50And I hope to have you back again on the show.
26:52Thank you very much.
26:52Open invite.
26:53Conor Ben.