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00:00well hello and a very warm welcome back to the andrew eborn show it's my favorite part of the
00:13show we go all the way down to south africa uh to see my good charm i can call you that now
00:17errol musk how are you errol i'm okay thank you yeah yeah not too bad of you but i'm incredibly
00:24busy as always everybody's wanting a piece of you aren't they yeah they seem to i don't know why
00:31honestly i don't know why no idea why it's the charm it's you're such a great raconteur
00:38and i don't know why i love being having having you chat all the time is that we put all these
00:44terrible stories into perspective that's the idea is so much misinformation in the press and so on
00:49and so forth so many reports about you and elon and and your family and what i like to do is put
00:55them to you each time and give you a chance to respond so let's start with a big story at the
01:01moment which is obviously spacex great story from spacex finally bring those astronauts sunita
01:05williams and butch wilmore back to earth after nine months being stuck um as the father of elon who sort
01:12of watched his space dreams grow what's it like to see these real world impacts unfold and how do you
01:17react how did you react when you heard the news well you know it's it's it's not major i mean it's
01:23not major news i mean uh you know elon um offered to bring them back uh five months ago i think it was
01:30you know within two weeks but uh the biden criminals so i can call them they're coming out now they're soon
01:39going to be in court and they're soon going to be facing charges and the charges are very serious
01:45so the biden criminals didn't want to give the credit to spacex uh you know sort of before the
01:55election and uh so they uh wouldn't let them you know with their cronies in the different departments
02:03uh refused to get so spacex would bring them back and as soon as elon got the go-ahead which was about
02:10two weeks ago he he he's brought them back somewhat well i mean a small story maybe in elon's world but
02:19for the poor astronauts who've been stuck up there for nine months it was only supposed to be a few days
02:23that's the sort of thing we do on a monday morning you know uh we don't you know i mean you know it's
02:31like let's not do something too tough on a monday morning let's just try and keep it a little light
02:36you know that's all so that's all it's put light we have much more serious things going on i mean
02:42uh elon is uh trump has now told him that the auto signing of these pardons was it was a criminal act
02:50i mean oh man oh i'm so glad this uh this uh piece of crap son is in the country here now
03:00apparently and uh i would advise him not to go back to us find some pals here and hide away
03:08yeah you're talking about hunter biden for a long time okay you're talking about hunter biden yes
03:14yes i wouldn't call him hunter i'd call him runner or runaway or something yeah it's a stupid name for
03:21him well i mean it is extraordinary you and i've discussed this beforehand because they were
03:27uh preemptive pardons and this sort of people say well you can get away with no such thing
03:32well no andrew i'm now giving you a preemptive pardon you can do whatever you like
03:39the rest of your life whatever it is that you do you're part of and i just want you to feel
03:44comfortable in whatever you do you know so please go ahead you know that x and that one that
03:50dropped you that time you know go for it you know you're free
03:53for the sake of the record there is no x trying to go for it but yes it sounds good
04:00oh well you're lucky oh you're good looking you see you get everybody
04:03you don't have x's who dump you and make you feel bad
04:06well it is good i mean it's yeah i mean it's a phenomenal what's going on the sort of headlines
04:13all over the place i mean yeah we always talk about this and i see you in many interviews people
04:17say oh you must be very proud of your son and you always dismiss that word proud but
04:21of the recent achievements as they say for the astronauts concern nine months being in space
04:26was a great achievement what do you think elon should be most proud of and how does it compare
04:31to your own experiences and engineering challenges
04:34well i think the thing he should be most proud of is that without you know
04:41you know he was really taken in by the leftist propaganda or what do you call it and fake media
04:51and everything for many years and he didn't see through it he thought i was wrong and he's returned
04:57to the values that i taught him as a child as a young boy living with me and he has to be given
05:04credit for that i i'm very proud of the fact that he uh he turned around and said i i made mistakes
05:13in the past you know and now i see what's what i'm proud of that that's something to be proud of
05:18um as far as them achieving things all of them i mean you know a lot of them i have others that are
05:25even more deeply involved in effort and struggling my other children i mean and um that you know my
05:33thoughts go to them right now more than elon really um but um you know i know he's uh he's he's
05:40a person who's very grateful as a parent i mean as a parent you know you start off as a parent
05:46you know you're a parent i mean you start as a parent i mean are these you know sort of
05:51numbers calls of mine going to be able to do a job that they don't get fired from you know
05:57because you know i mean at home you know you try to tell them you know look you do things wrong at
06:04home and i sort of you know moan and groan or crap you out or whatever the term is uh but at work
06:12they just say don't come into your fire you know don't come in tomorrow that's different you know
06:16that's much worse and uh so you always worry about that with your children and i do anyway i mean
06:22uh you know i look just at my own parents you know i was being lauded and everything as a young
06:28engineer and my parents were always saying you know um when i told them i'm having this and that
06:34meeting with this and that big shot there's only the newspaper or something my parents would say do
06:39you think you know don't you think you should do this don't you think you should sort of say sorry
06:43don't you think you should sort of apologize more you know or be for existing you know it was
06:50our approach as if you know my parents approach you know don't hurt anybody don't upset anybody you
06:55know because you know how how people can be you know this kind of thing so i mean that's a parent
07:00that's a parent i mean if you're not like that then you're not a parent yeah and then of course
07:05i just want to say yeah just i just want to say betty davis is famous for saying um if your
07:13children never hated you at some point then you were never a parent
07:17you know it's a good point isn't it and and i was watching uh with my wife i was watching yet
07:26another documentary about elon and uh and i heard lots of stories most of which i i realized were
07:33probably untrue having spoken to you directly and i found it extraordinary that they didn't talk to
07:38you directly about some of those stories and and what you what i love about our conversations is that
07:44we can we can put them directly to you you can respond that's the proper way of doing things
07:48how do you feel when you see these documentaries which clearly a misrepresent you they clearly
07:55misrepresent and don't understand your family how does that make you feel
07:58i don't i don't care i mean if you know i mean if you've been through high school
08:05a co-educational high school particularly i would say uh you know you know everything about life if
08:12you if you've survived this five or six years that are co-educational high school in the west
08:18let's say the western i imagine it's the same other countries i don't know if you survive that
08:22you know uh you go from you know from the girls point of view in a high school uh they come to
08:28the conclusion if they don't get their way with you you must be gay you know and uh and so you walk
08:35around with that and then then you've got um the other boys who seem to think you're not doing too
08:41well or rather you're doing too much better than they are and they would like to have a fight with you
08:46you know which means would you please meet us in the boxing ring i'm gonna beat your brains up
08:49and so a high school is a sort of mini lifestyle a mini uh community a mini a mini world so if you've
08:57been through that you know a lot of things about by the time you come out you know and uh you know
09:02if you're any in any way shine you know you know all about it by the time you come out when you get
09:08into um sorry when you get into uh i'll just take this one
09:15uh when you get into um um the world outside you know it helps all those lessons that you had
09:25and um you know um you know um in the schools i went to for example the men the boys were caned
09:32who came i mean you know came where they were left railway tracks on your backside for three or four
09:37days i don't know if you know what that is oh no they used to have uh that at high school
09:42yes so anyway so the real the world outside is um um you know a bit like that and you know you just
09:53take it i mean if on the other hand i mean if it's true if something somebody comes up with something
09:58that's true the thing to do is somehow to try i suppose and apologize for it i don't know how you
10:05would do it but you sort of apologize if they said something that's completely true you know
10:10you say i i made a mistake at that point in time and please forgive me i'm trying to be a better
10:15person on something like that you know but it's not true well then why waste your time with it well
10:21i don't but it's it's like i mean some of them are defamatory some of them clearly i i would find
10:26very upsetting uh no new for well for some some time now we've had lots of these great conversations
10:32unpacking a lot of the untrue stories in the media and and i i felt for you and your family i thought
10:38it was wrong of the documentary makers not to at least reach out to you to get your side of it um
10:44and it's that search for the truth as i say not taking either side the only mistress we should have
10:48the truth isn't it well you know the book that this isaacson guy wrote is is absolute junk it's it's
10:57junk from one end to the other i mean i don't know what this guy was doing they said he did
11:02steve jobs biography i mean this guy is useless he's totally useless and and the stuff he wrote
11:09is nonsense you know he he took some sort of rumor rubbish here and then actually put it in print
11:16i mean the guy's ridiculously stupid and and you know i i pity anyone who was stupid enough to buy
11:22that book because it's very expensive on the other hand the second biography written by a man by the
11:28name of michael flissmas uh called risking it all is actually fairly accurate and it never got much
11:35publicity but it's fairly accurate i have a copy and i was quite amazed at the the at the relative
11:40you know because um he never interviewed me michael flissmas he asked me to interview and i said no
11:47i don't want to do it and he said okay i'll find everything out by myself which he did and it was
11:53fairly accurate and um so yeah the the the the yeah so you don't worry about it i mean if you're
11:59worried about somebody going around saying that uh you know andrew uh airborne you know you want is a
12:06um uh you know he's he's a he's a closet this or that or something like that and it's not true well
12:13i mean you you're absolutely you just sent them for the publicity well thanks for thanks for the
12:18publicity fellows you know thanks appreciate that well it's also oscar wilde wasn't it errol the
12:26i said the only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about so i guess
12:30if if that's the sort of reaction to it yeah it is a joke but i mean a couple of big stories at the
12:37moment such a brilliant oh fantastic what a wonderful wit and and you you share that great
12:44sense of humor as well no no he's way beyond a wonderful wit um he he said for example this
12:51the truth is sometimes plain but it is never simple
12:57now if you can understand that yeah then you can understand a lot of things yes yeah you see
13:07no i i absolutely well so look at looking at some of those things i mean another big story at the
13:12moment is um there's this public frustration towards tesla and there have been terrible reports
13:17of vandalism at dealerships and protests publicity more publicity free publicity you don't have to go
13:25to the newspapers and pay 500 000 pounds for adverts or anything like that you're getting it all the
13:30time you know and uh you know i i don't know if you realize that but if if scumbags do things like
13:38that to you you become the hero and they become they just remain scumbags and what people remember
13:43is the name tesla yeah you know i mean you say that but the stock unfortunately it's had a bit of
13:49it's it's come down since december um amid these sort of boycotts i mean how all the stocks have come
13:55down all the stocks have come down and um this is cyclical you know it's cyclical and um you know
14:03until they reach levels people push their stocks you know they are they are tricks and of the trade and
14:10everything moving the stocks up and down and um as elon says he never looks at stocks he never looks
14:15at the stock value so the thing is it's basically like your home you know one day people will come
14:21to you and say oh everybody's moving into your area your home must be worth you know much more than
14:25you thought it was and then the next time they come and they say oh no everybody's moving out of
14:30your area your home has no value anymore what's nonsense so your home has an inherent value and that's
14:35the end of it you know yeah yeah and but do you think he takes do you think he takes it personally
14:41though these attacks on tesla no no no i mean um you know um when you're being attacked or being
14:52lauded it's sort of like the same coin just different sides of the same coin you know the whole thing in
14:58in life is as you said something about um oscar wilde just now the whole thing in life is to be
15:05noticed and not not be noticed i mean you i was talking about a high school the worst thing to ever
15:10be is you know i went to such and such such and such a high school to a crowd of boys and girls who
15:17went to that high school and they say oh you were there and i noticed you you know they've saw you
15:22it's not so good you know you're actually wanting it's very unpleasant no no no um if you are being
15:29noticed that's what matters that's all that matters yeah and um the other thing about being noticed is
15:35uh trump uh turned the white house into a tesla showroom didn't he had cyber trucks and the red
15:39model s out front saying he'd buy one to support elon what what was your reaction when you saw president
15:45uh uh spotlight tesla in that way and did elon give you the heads up that was going to happen
15:49well you know there are well no there are there are two schools of thought or sort of in the car
15:57business i have for example petrol cars you know or what i call petrol gas i don't get petrol i think
16:04call it petrol as well and um you know i'm sort of petrol head you know i mean i like it i like the
16:10petrol head i like changing gears i've just driven my little peugeot sports car it's a convertible to
16:17to cape talent back at 150 kilometers an hour all the way back and um you know it's terrific i mean
16:23going through the gears and all that sort of stuff um when you have a uh you know and say an electric
16:29car it's it's it's not so interesting you know it's not as interesting you know you sort of it drives
16:35for you it does everything for you so there's two schools of thought you know there's the people like
16:40i imagine trump being my age and from my generation you know we like the mustang you know and then my
16:47personal favorite is that boxy looking uh aston martin that came out once you know uh it looks like
16:54mustang but like a mustang and you know if i could get one i'd like okay well i can sell one kidney and
17:01then i could uh i could have uh yeah and then i can buy one you know you know but um but um yeah so
17:11there's two schools of thought so trump is that of was of that sort of school you know and um yeah it's
17:16really hard it's sort of engraved in you you know but he's realized he can't he can't fight you know
17:21progress and so he's made it um he swallowed his pride and you know sort of said okay i'll drive an
17:26electric car another thing about driving electric car is that once you start driving an electric car
17:32it's very uh it grows on you you know i mean you look at you sort of look at people in petrol stations
17:38as you drive past the sort of sort of wonky eye you know what are you doing there what's all that
17:44crowd around that petrol station you don't really know what they're even there for you've forgotten oh
17:48they're buying petrol oh that's right i remember that the tesla um showcase if you like on on the
17:58at the white house it it coincided with the uh uh retaliatory tariffs didn't it uh uh basically
18:06happening at the moment how do you know navigating this tension between global's uh the global needs
18:11of tesla and his loyalty to trump well you know people adjust i mean people adjust to all these things
18:18um you know at the moment in this country when you buy a car you're already paying about 90 percent
18:26um i mean it's taxed to this hopeless government i mean it's ridiculous so you know it's just it's
18:35just taxes i mean i was amazed once to be in england at um uh piccadilly circus area and i saw the
18:41new mercedes benz coming out in 1990 you know sort of a like a mustang looking one
18:48uh you know convertible and i looked at the thing oh this is terrific and i went in to look at it
18:54and and they said if you take an fob it's a hundred thousand francs oh no no francs
19:01deutschmark so then i thought what that's that's ridiculous what do you mean call me that must be like
19:09three hundred thousand no no oh no that's fob it's when you get it to your country that it becomes
19:14three hundred thousand if you fall out of need yeah anyway so terrorists you know we've all we all have
19:20that misery and um uh you know so what can you do i mean um at the other i just wanted to say about
19:28these terrorists that trump's talking about i was aware many years ago that um if i went to canada
19:36which i did quite often beside children so university in ontario that um they the people
19:43on weekends because i would spend quite a few weeks there you know the people on weekends would all head
19:47to buffalo which is the nearest united states city they cross the border on a saturday morning
19:53they come back late on a saturday evening and they have their trunk loaded with groceries
19:59uh whatever it is they could want to you know anything kettles toasters um you know whatever
20:06they needed you know uh and the car is like loaded you know and um you know and then they have to get
20:11back through the they don't have any trouble with the american uh customs they have a problem getting
20:17back into canada and then you know i did this a few times with people and uh the canadian custom guys
20:23would like sort of turn around as you came in because they were trying to help you know
20:27and say gee look there's a bird in the distance you know and then you would say yes and then you're
20:32all looking that way and then you drive through you see and you know you know i mean so that they
20:36didn't they didn't stop you they're really nice because it was so much better for the canadians
20:41to spend their their loomies or whatever they call their money on the canada on the american side
20:46they get so much more value you know than they did on the american on the canadian side
20:50and that was because canada charges incredible tariffs then on american goods i was told for
20:59example you know if you bought something in the dairy line let's say in america and then compared
21:07to what you'd pay for it in canada it was three times more expensive in canada because of the tariff
21:13so the tariff on an american uh whatever it is you know would be three times as much on cheese or
21:21something like that you know and uh i said really you know so they you know that's the thing so canada's
21:27been charging um the united states uh terrorists through the roof for years and because canada's
21:34viewed it as a sort of you know sort of weak neighbor they just put up with it right i mean it's i i always
21:41thought i mean from trump's point of view it's a negotiating tactic isn't he so tariff is that
21:46most beautiful word but he's basically trying to negotiate deals around the world it is the art of
21:51the deal isn't it well yes you know i i don't know what i think what gave rise to tariffs
21:58i'm not sure what all i know is that they've been ripping off the americans there's no question
22:05about that and in order to keep going the americans have been borrowing against their own country to
22:13keep everybody uh happy you know so you've got the united the european union charging the u.s three
22:22times the tariffs that what what they are charged like you know the other way around and um that's not
22:30right that's not right i mean the european union as a group is is as big as the united states they
22:36they they are fleecing the united states they're a bunch of crooks really they're a bunch of what
22:42we call scallops you know um bad they do that to the americans because the americans are kind and
22:48and decent people and they try to help if you know what i mean the americans never i saw the american
22:53station the other day a bunch of democrats actually and they were moaning at me but i was saying you
22:58know the americans they'll give and give and give they don't take and the last thing they ever think
23:03of is going to another country and asking for financial help if you if you know what i mean
23:08they'd rather die they'd rather you know all die than than than ask another country to to give them
23:15money to them it's really weird actually you know so yeah so it's what's happening now is right
23:22it's got to stop you know i mean canada's a prime example i mean it's it's ridiculous that they they
23:29don't want americans to charge 25 on dairy products and they charge 300 on dairy products
23:37i mean hello you know hello i mean what are we talking about here what a bunch of nose skulls yeah
23:45it's it's it's it's gonna be interesting to see how it's a lame place yeah it's got to be
23:51the home of the lame it should be called calamita calamita it's the lamest country i've ever come
23:59what a bunch of lame people interesting um what what are the other reports as well uh errol is
24:08that grimes um your uh daughter-in-law ex-daughter-in-law recently shared her frustration about
24:14not keeping her grandchildren your grandchildren offline saying she's begged elon to limit their
24:19exposure as their grandfather how do you view this clash between their public lives and her privacy
24:25push and has elon ever talked to you about it well you know it's i have discussed a little bit
24:31it's it's a private matter so it's their business it's not really for me to talk about that kind of
24:37thing it's their matter it's their business and i have my business with my children so i wouldn't want
24:43to comment on that i i i do think that some of the ideas she had for the children a bit odd
24:50and i can understand elon's frustrations but other than that um you know um giving little children
24:58tattoos and all that sort of stuff it's silly you know if you know what i mean then elon you had to
25:02protect his children from that you know yeah i don't think that's right he wasn't married to her
25:07yeah it's very very different difficult isn't it when you have different views about bringing up
25:12children as you say uh as you wisely quoted at the very beginning saying look if you haven't fallen
25:17out with your children as betty davis once said then you haven't really been a proper parent i mean
25:22you've you've been very candid including when in our conversations about your relationship uh with
25:27elon how's it evolved as he's juggled things like the tesla backlash and global fame um and so on and
25:34so forth that's him on the phone now so don't speak to don't tell andrew eborn how it's evolved that's
25:41what he's telling you it's got to be good there you go sorry sorry what that's that's all right
25:46it's all good stuff yeah i mean how's your relationship evolved i mean he's obviously
25:50in the spotlight even more now
25:52how is our relationship evolved yes i mean you've obviously had these recent things has it brought
26:03you closer together now that you're um basically he's so close to trump uh he calls it tech support
26:09and so on and so forth and uh and he's got his own troubles trying to navigate those have you found
26:15your relationship has strengthened as a result of those and do you give him sort of fatherly advice
26:19we don't have any problems we don't have any problems at all you know um nothing i mean uh i
26:27needed to to purchase something this i didn't really need to purchase it but i mentioned it and
26:33um i looked at my account this morning and the money's there you know so you don't just send me the
26:38money so that's personal and i don't like to really share that but but i will share it but
26:43because i don't really have to say to him you know hello how are you you know how was your week
26:48and he says how was your week
26:52i do that with the girls unfortunately with the girls it's quite the opposite
26:58with the off it's it's quite the opposite you know the girls it's long long talks which go on for
27:06like an hour you know and um and you keep uh yes you can do i shouldn't say this you can do all your
27:13planning for the next two weeks during that conversation you know with your daughter
27:17she tells you all her problems but at the same day i had the same thing i mean it's it's quite nice
27:24to be to talk to your daughters sons are like yes no i don't think so goodbye you know you know
27:32that's sons get ready for it if you have a son no i i have i have a wonderful children i'm very
27:37very proud of both of them and everything they achieve and they have my full support always
27:41which is good but you're right it's it's just being there and that the problem is is we've said
27:46before nobody understands the relationship between other people and they all speculate don't they which
27:51must be very painful sometimes isn't it no no not at all well yes i mean you know i'm you know i'm i
27:59i was a kid growing up as a person growing up i would have some friends and then they would say
28:03so-and-so's father did this all so-and-so you know we had even worse situations so-and-so's father
28:10committed suicide you know these are terrible things you don't want to know about it as a man as a boy
28:16you you you know one of the worst things you want is you know you want to get come in in the evening
28:22if you're still at home i mean and uh your parents just say hi you know you know don't ask me
28:27how my day was you know and if your father says how was your day you think oh my god somebody phoned
28:32him you know somebody must have got a hold of him you know oh my god why is he asking me that
28:39somebody's been on touch in touch with him you know and you start thinking you know what am i
28:44going to say here you know um because now lie lie lie you know it wasn't me you know it wasn't me
28:49and uh all that no the relationship between uh men is different to the relationship between uh
28:57woman and men you know yeah i would say it's it's very interesting i mean the other big story
29:02happening here at the moment is the big conflict between nigel farage and rupert lowe and uh elon's
29:09very publicly taken a strong stance in favor of rupert lowe and you said nigel you said on this very
29:14program nigel you don't think is up to the job um what what's your current take on this conflict
29:20rupert lowe's basically been thrown out of the party he's been referred to the police for
29:24criminal investigation about things he's alleged to have said um what's your take on it
29:29well i don't i've seen that roughly more or less from the side um it's it's terribly weak to hear
29:39stuff like that terribly bickering you know it just reeks of weakness you know so then that's no
29:48good at all you don't want anything like that and um you know no i i don't unfortunately you know the
29:55reform party is it's sort of like the your tory party in in the same jacket different color you know
30:02and um you know it's sad actually because i didn't like seeing uh stormer there you know
30:09visiting uh trump and leaning over as far as he could in the other direction while he was talking
30:13to trump you know this little sort of prick of a character i saw that's how i see it and uh you know
30:22um i mean pathetic uh if i'd been trump i'd have told him you know he can see one of the one of the
30:28juniors but he can't see me i wouldn't have seen him i would have said no but um you know not not
30:34after you've told me told people that i'm this and that and the other you know publicly and so on
30:39as storm and his crowd have done so yeah but as far as the reform party is concerned you know i don't
30:46know i go on a few of these other channels and they talk about that everything's okayish in the us
30:53in the united kingdom at the moment okayish and i you know i i say that's nice to hear and um you
31:01know um i'm happy to hear that um at the same time you know the sort of bad things are going on
31:09they're still carrying on you know it's becoming a tax country a country you know it's heading more
31:16and more to the situation where in england in uk i mean your the government is is is far more than
31:23half your life and you don't want that the very worst you want is government and politics to be
31:28half your life preferably about 10 percent of your life but when it's starting to become 60 to 70
31:34percent of your life well then it's not fun anymore at all then you want to see what's wrong here you
31:39know and um you know my thoughts went earlier today when i was listening to something to the time when
31:46you had henry viii yes who simply uh you know this monster i mean this monster i mean if i if i was in
31:53england i'd have everything that it relates to him scratched damaged checked off the wall you know
32:02he simply had people who said they who opposed him had their heads removed you know and i know i i
32:11respect this point we we look at history history is really ugly that's not right and we teach
32:16school children it's all a bit of fun you know they laugh about it it's it's tragic it's awful when
32:21you look at the reality no no no no no quite yes they make these these movies as though some sort of
32:27glamorous thing yeah no um yeah as far as england is concerned at the moment it's quiet and down um you
32:35know i'm not sure what to say about about the uk at the moment um i have no idea what what to say
32:41except i thought by now stromer would have done so many bad things who have been removed or had to
32:48have called an election of some kind you know that's that's what you said you said to me i don't
32:53know we had we had a had a bet he was going to be out by february i think you said and uh having a
32:59look at that but i i agree with you with the way he was groveling up to trump it was embarrassing
33:04wasn't it well yes you know you know i i mean if i were him i would have first maybe he did maybe he
33:11did i would have apologized i would have said look i i'd like to apologize for the things we said about
33:18you we we maybe he did i don't know maybe he did well he's not done it publicly i mean selensky
33:24made the mistake of uh that appalling thing in the white house there um and he had to sort of come
33:30back groveling didn't he yes it looked like that you know and and you know then of course i i did see
33:37that the next day he went off after trump sent no more weapons to ukraine he off he went the next day
33:43and that addressed the rest of those devos people that call themselves you know elected
33:51politicians of some kind that we're now going to scrape the barrel and find everything we've got
33:56weapon wise for ukraine and we're going to send it to ukraine so we can keep this war going we want
34:03this war to keep going and then if you've got a half a brain you start to realize hey wait a minute
34:08why are they doing this they're hiding something they're terrified that this war should stop
34:14because if it stops maybe there's something they don't want people to know about so whatever they
34:21do they've got to keep this thing going yeah you're absolutely right you've got to ask yourself why they
34:26want to keep it going what are they trying to hide who benefits from war carrying on and as i say
34:32trump's really focusing he wants the uh the nobel peace prize he wants to be the president
34:37who brings peace um errol we've run out of time this time it's been an absolute delight
34:42having you on the show as always uh for now errol moss thank you for joining me okay