Haunted Michigan, Episode 10: Ed Terebus
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00:01Haunted Michigan Terrifying Tales
00:04Well, here we are, another installment of Haunted Michigan. I'm your host, Meltdown.
00:08Just pleased to have Ed Terebus here, of course, the owner and proprietor of Erebus.
00:13They opened up in 2000, and it's really become one of the biggest haunted houses in all of not only Michigan, but also the Midwest.
00:21But I'll tell you what, Haunted Michigan isn't about haunted houses. It's really about the paranormal and stuff.
00:26We're going to get into all that kind of stuff. But first, I just want to welcome Ed to the studios. How are you doing, Ed?
00:31Doing very good. Not only are we biggest in Michigan, we had the Guinness Book of World Records, so we're one of the biggest haunts in the whole world.
00:37That's right. Okay. All right. Well, I stand corrected then.
00:39There you go.
00:40Well, that's great. Now, tell people, how long does it take? My daughter went through this last year. I think she said something like 45 minutes or an hour to go through.
00:48It depends how fast you're running. When things are coming after you, some people move quicker. But it's just over a half-mile walk through the haunted house.
00:54Wow. So, you know, 35 to 45 minutes. Depends how fast you're moving.
00:59Now, we're going to get into some of the paranormal stuff here in a little bit. But let's just talk about Erebus, first of all.
01:03You were just explaining to me the name. So, you've probably talked about this a million times.
01:07Yes. Actually, we were actually looking. We used to be called the Haunted Gallery. We did haunted houses for 20 years before we bought this building.
01:14We wanted one name, just something unique and different.
01:18Like Cher or Madonna.
01:19Yeah, exactly. And I was reading a vampire novel, and all of a sudden, they're looking, and they start talking about Erebus.
01:25Put the thing down. I looked into Webster's definition.
01:30Erebus is the darkness beneath the earth that the dead must pass to reach Hades.
01:34Greek mythology is the sun of chaos or brother of night.
01:36And then cooler than that is, put a T in front of it, and that's our last name.
01:40So, I mean, we were meant to do this kind of stuff.
01:42That's right. So, I was going to say, so you bought Erebus, the building, in 1998, correct?
01:48Correct.
01:48Okay. And then you already, but you said you were already doing this for 20 years previous.
01:52Yeah, we did mobile units. We actually, our first haunted house was 1981.
01:58It was a structure we built in the parking lot. We pre-did it in the backyard, and we charged $1.50.
02:04Wow.
02:04Needless to say, we lost money, but we found out a lot of things we did wrong, and we immediately moved to mobile home trailers.
02:12And then we actually had four mobile home trailers, which came out to like 2,800 square feet.
02:18The third year, we added one more in the middle of it, came out to 3,400 square feet.
02:22We ran that for 13 years, sold that to a church for a buck.
02:26Wow.
02:26And then we picked up 10 trailers, which were 14 feet wide by 70 foot long.
02:32And we were running that one, and you're moving 10 trailers, temporary electrical, temporary water.
02:37We're going, man, all this stuff, you know, storage of these trailers.
02:40I go, we could buy a building for all the money we're spending.
02:43Right.
02:43And then we ended up, we looked for about four years, and finally, the building we're at now.
02:48And, yeah.
02:48Now, obviously, you know, in downtown Pontiac, it's kind of like a perfect place for something like this.
02:53This building was, how big is this building that you have now?
02:55The building's over 100,000 square feet, and it actually was vacant for 40 years before we got it.
03:01Wow.
03:02So there's been a lot of times, a lot of time for ghosts and ghouls to gather.
03:06Oh, man, there's all kinds of stories and stuff.
03:08And, yeah, we have, we can share a few of those.
03:11All right, we'll get into that here in just a few minutes.
03:13But I just want people to get the back history of that.
03:15Funny thing about me, I love the paranormal.
03:18I love horror movies and stuff.
03:19I do not like haunted houses.
03:21I don't like walking.
03:22I don't like being touched.
03:24None of that stuff.
03:25He's already, I can see the wheels already turning.
03:27We got to get this guy into Erebus.
03:30But, no, it's one of those things where I'm just not a huge fan of that kind of stuff.
03:34Obviously, you are a haunted movie fan to a horror movie fan?
03:38I love all stuff horror.
03:39Yeah.
03:40Yes.
03:40What are some of your favorites?
03:42My favorite horror movie, I want to say Alien and Jaws.
03:47I mean, those two got me good as a kid.
03:50And I'm very difficult to get.
03:52So, I mean, I might flinch on the inside, but on the outside, I'm not moving.
03:56But my guys are always trying to get me.
03:57That's one of the, you know, just things we do within the haunted house is trying to scare each other.
04:02And it just makes us giggle, you know?
04:04Right.
04:04And how many people do you have working out there?
04:06There's usually about 10 of us full time, you know, year-round.
04:09You know, we do the haunted house.
04:11We do the escape rooms.
04:13We're opening oddities and curiosities museum.
04:15And then we're also doing the making of the monster now.
04:19Right.
04:19I think I saw you guys just post something on socials that you were looking for actors and stuff.
04:23Is that kind of a normal thing every year?
04:25Yep.
04:25And we have a pool of, you know, that's our scare labor.
04:29Uh-huh.
04:29And our pool of scare labor will probably be, you know, 150, 250 people.
04:34And then we need, you know, anywhere from 75 to 100 people a night, depending on the year.
04:40And so when you walk through your haunted house, are there other rooms?
04:43Like, do you create rooms?
04:44Like, for example, like there's another Saw movie coming out.
04:47Is there a room similar to that?
04:48Or how do you get your ideas for some of the rooms and different things?
04:51It changes.
04:52Everything changes all the time.
04:54I mean, you know, we don't change the whole haunt because it's a half-mile walk.
04:57That'd be virtually impossible to do.
04:59We change about 20, 25%.
05:01And it all depends on what our feelings are, you know, for that year.
05:05You know, what's coming up.
05:06We might see what movies are coming up and try to emulate some of those things.
05:11You know, it's, you know, a lot of it might even be somebody has an idea.
05:16Like, you know, one year, some guy, one of my guys drew a picture of the guys walking through the swamp.
05:20We go, man, that'd be kind of cool.
05:22How do you make a swamp?
05:23And then we had to go and dissect that, all that information.
05:25You know, how do you create resistance?
05:27You know, how do you create the feel of mud?
05:29How do you make the look of water?
05:30And we created airbags, put foam on the floor, bring the lasers down to get the swirling effects for the water effect, you know.
05:37And we're actually taking our swamp.
05:39You know, if you've ever seen a haunt with a swamp in it, we're the guys that invented that.
05:43Okay.
05:43You know, kind of brought that to the table.
05:45Now we're taking our swamp and kind of bringing it up with the next couple of notches, you know.
05:49So this year should be kind of cool with the swamp.
05:51And everybody loves the swamp.
05:53Well, yeah.
05:53I mean, I'm not sure if I like swamp.
05:55I thought quicksand would have been a bigger deal than it was when I was growing up.
05:58Everyone was afraid of quicksand back when we were kids.
06:00Remember that?
06:01Yes.
06:02Quicksand would be a difficult one because they're going to make you go down in.
06:05But we do have a burial lie.
06:06Put you in a room, slam the door, fill it up six feet six.
06:08How long can you hold your breath?
06:10So, I mean, it's kind of like quicksand.
06:11Yeah.
06:11That's something I probably won't be doing anytime soon.
06:14But, no, I just saw a video with Tobin Bell in the saw in the first movie where they were in that bathroom.
06:20And he was just in this room.
06:22And that room is so creepy.
06:23And it's like, it's just like this old abandoned bathroom.
06:26They did have a competition years ago in the haunt industry.
06:30And somehow I missed, they just said, build a saw room.
06:34And I missed one of the files never got to me.
06:38So, they kind of gave you a diagram of what they were looking for.
06:40But we just went off on our own, you know.
06:42And the funny thing is I actually had a chainsaw in the room, bolted down to a table with 10 cinder blocks in there with a sign that said, do not touch.
06:52But I electrified the handles.
06:54So, if you touched it, you'd be like, ah!
06:57And you know what?
06:57It's funny because you'd be walking through and there's always one guy that would grab that thing.
07:00He'd be screaming.
07:01Everybody's going, what, what, what?
07:05Chainsaws are very scary, by the way.
07:06Yes, they are.
07:07Yeah.
07:07Especially when they're electrified.
07:08Right.
07:09It was just the 50th anniversary of the day the Texas Chainsaw Massacre took place in 1973, in August 18th or something like that.
07:18But the video, the movie came out in 1974.
07:21Okay.
07:21So, at the beginning, it says August 18th, 1973.
07:24I was just watching it the other day.
07:26So, okay.
07:27So, people can go through Erebus, you know, like normal, like a normal haunted house at night on the weekends or throughout the week and whatnot.
07:32But you also had this, The Making of the Monster, a walkthrough documentary.
07:36So, what's that all about?
07:37That's for people like you.
07:39You know, you don't want to be scared, but you're interested in Halloween.
07:43You're interested in all the things like that.
07:45We actually installed over 40 monitors throughout the haunted house.
07:49And we know actors.
07:52The lights are on.
07:52The sounds are there.
07:53Turn down a little bit.
07:55We're trying to explain to you, you know, how we got into the business, our history, how we came up with the name.
08:01You'll be able to come in there and see the display, but then look up the monitor and see how it works, you know, without having it work on you.
08:08Okay.
08:08So, I mean, we literally got things in there that will grab you, bite you, land on top of you, that kind of thing, bury you alive.
08:14So, you'll see the video being buried alive, but you won't be buried alive.
08:18Reviews have been through the roof.
08:19Everybody loves it.
08:21I mean, you can walk through on your own.
08:22So, you know, it might take you a half hour.
08:25We had a couple walkthrough.
08:26I thought we lost them.
08:27I'm running around looking.
08:28They spent two hours walking through the haunted house and watching each video, you know, a couple times.
08:33And, you know, they were awesome.
08:34That left us a great review.
08:37But, no, it's for anybody who doesn't want to be scary but wants to experience Halloween a little bit.
08:41Yeah.
08:41Now, where did you come up with this idea?
08:43You know what?
08:44We did a little test last year.
08:46You know, the problem was we just called it an Erebus matinee.
08:51And all of a sudden, it's like, Erebus, a not scary weekend.
08:54No, no, no.
08:54We're scary.
08:55Just not for that two hours, you know.
08:57So, we decided to do it and modify it, gave it its own name, making it the monster.
09:03You know, we have our own T-shirt for it, our own tickets for it.
09:06Totally separate from the haunted house.
09:07The haunted house is scary 100%.
09:09And then this one here is just not.
09:11And it's for people that don't want to be scared.
09:15I mean, you'd be surprised.
09:16I mean, I was talking to a guy at New Year's Eve.
09:20Here's this 35-year-old guy, and he's as big as me.
09:24He's 250 pounds.
09:25And he goes, I ain't going in there.
09:27What do you mean you're not going in there, man?
09:30So, people love Halloween.
09:32And what are you going to do?
09:33You can't trick-or-treat no more.
09:35So, I mean, it's like graduating from trick-or-treating.
09:38Next step is haunted houses, you know.
09:40So, we want to make sure everybody has the ability to come experience a haunted house,
09:43even if they don't want to be scared.
09:45Now, do you yourself travel the country, perhaps, and go to different haunted houses for ideas
09:49or for inspiration or anything like that?
09:51We'll travel the country.
09:52We'll check out other haunted houses.
09:53We go to the trade shows every year.
09:55Yeah.
09:55Is there, like, a whole haunted house community of people that you know?
09:59Oh, yeah.
09:59Oh, yeah.
10:00We belong to America Haunts, which are some of the top haunts across the nation.
10:05And we share ideas and thoughts, kind of like a brain consortium, you know?
10:08Yeah.
10:09Have you ever thought, well, we'll get into the paranormal here in a second.
10:12But, like, for example, let's say the Sally House.
10:15You know about the Sally House?
10:16No.
10:16In Kansas City?
10:17They say it's the most haunted house in all of America.
10:20And, like, also the Lizzie Borden House.
10:22I'm thinking about staying there coming up at the end of September,
10:25but I haven't really pulled the trigger on that one yet.
10:27But would you ever think of buying a house that was actually haunted like that
10:30and doing something with it?
10:32I lived in the haunted house from 1998 to 2013.
10:38In the area here?
10:39No, my haunted house.
10:41I lived in the building.
10:42I have a loft in the building.
10:43Okay, got you.
10:43Okay.
10:44And, you know, we'll talk more about that in a little bit.
10:46Well, let's get into it.
10:47Go ahead.
10:47What have you seen there?
10:48You're talking about Erebus right now in Pontiac.
10:50Yeah, there's just all kinds of things.
10:51There was a rumor that somebody passed away in the basement prior to us getting
10:55a homeless guy froze to death or something like that.
10:59Oh, I think I've heard about that.
11:00We went to the boiler room.
11:01In fact, if you want to come on by, we still have – that's a room we haven't even touched.
11:07His pillow and blanket are still in the corner.
11:09It's, you know, it's covered in dirt and dust and, you know, all kinds of grime.
11:14We've actually had paranormal investigators come, and they came out.
11:19They wanted to come after our busiest night, which is, you know, sweetest day.
11:25It's 2.30 in the morning.
11:26We're closing the doors.
11:27I'm going, I'm done.
11:28I'm going to bed.
11:29I told my nephew, I go, you watch – you know, you hang with these guys.
11:32Right.
11:32So they went down there, and they put a flashlight in the corner where the guy's sleeping bag,
11:36where his blanket was, and they're going, turn off the flashlight.
11:41Turn off the flashlight.
11:43And my nephew's standing there for 45 minutes, and he just got fed up.
11:46He goes, turn off the flashlight.
11:48And it went off.
11:49Oh, my God, the spirits are talking to you.
11:51Time to turn it back on.
11:52So for 20 minutes, he sat there and go, turn on, turn off, turn on, turn off.
11:56He goes, you know what, Ed?
11:57He goes, I'd call that bullshit.
11:59He goes, but that was my flashlight.
12:03So, I mean, we had that, and then there's – on the second floor where the elevators
12:07was, like a hotspot, and the third floor – I mean, you know – let me just backtrack.
12:13My wife is from Thailand.
12:15Okay.
12:15So the first time she came out to visit me, you know, she'd come to my loft, and as you're
12:20going from the second floor to the third floor, walking up the ramp, in between each
12:23joist going up was a skeleton hanging.
12:26Then you had to walk past all our caskets.
12:28And this aisle way down here is all body parts.
12:31You know, pass all this stuff to get to my house.
12:33So she's probably going, what the hell did I get myself into, you know?
12:37So we're sleeping in the house, and on the third floor we have some wicker caskets, which
12:43are kind of like body bags, pre-body bags, okay?
12:47Those are real things or like props?
12:51Well, you could use them for a prop, but these are real things from, you know, they're
12:54ancient or antique body bags.
12:57Okay.
12:58So who knows how many bodies have been in there.
13:00And I guess they were outside my loft area, and I guess they have a voice recording going,
13:07Ed, Ed.
13:09And I'm thinking, I'm sleeping on the other side of that wall.
13:12So you just talked about, how many other paranormal experiences have people witnessed there?
13:20You know, that one, in fact, it's funny because I mentioned my wife, and they believe in ghosts
13:25in Thailand.
13:26They actually build a ghost house before they build the house, to house a good ghost before
13:31they build a house where they're going to live in.
13:32So we're, you know, they had another paranormal people there, and we come walking around the
13:37corner, and the lady goes, oh my God, I just saw an apparition, you know, from the waist
13:40up.
13:41And I kind of went, oh, we got to turn back around and get out of here, man.
13:44I want my wife, you know, I can't have her be scared of living where we live, you know?
13:48We had a group of guys, they used to be the ghost hunters.
13:53They had a show out there.
13:54Yeah.
13:54And they took the Kinex box, and they put it on top of their iPad, so a Kinex will look
14:00at you and turn you into a stick figure, okay?
14:02Right, right, right, yep.
14:02So they're looking at their iPad, they're looking at you, you're a stick figure, you're
14:06standing in the doorway, they're all of a sudden, here comes two more figures coming
14:11up behind you, and I'm looking, and there's nobody there.
14:15And one of them kind of floats away, and this woman was standing there, and a stick figure
14:20is behind her, literally petting her hair.
14:23In fact, I'll send you the video if you want, in fact, you know, me and my other guy were
14:28there, I'm going, get the hell out of here, no way, man, we're looking, but I mean, and
14:32then all of a sudden, next to us, the temperature's going down, they get the temperature reading
14:36things, and very, very bizarre.
14:38Wow, and have you caught any of this stuff on, I mean, obviously that one's on video,
14:41but you have video when people are going through the house, right?
14:44Yeah.
14:44Do you have, have you ever caught anything crazy on there, or there's probably just too much
14:47chaos and commotion?
14:48It's too much chaos and commotion to watch, I mean, the only time we actually, you know,
14:52I'll have somebody watching, because we have 44 cameras, one guy watching 44 cameras at
14:57one time, and it's kind of nuts, and normally we're looking for troublemakers, or, you know,
15:02crowd backing up, or anything, you know, anything you need to do to, you know, try to hit it
15:07off at the pass before it gets too bad, you know?
15:09So you've had the ghost hunters come in, what was the first paranormal group, do you remember
15:12what they were called?
15:13That was Lower Michigan Paranormal Society.
15:17Oh, okay, yeah.
15:18So we had them come out, and then Channel 4 came out and did their own investigation,
15:22and then they took all that information, and then we were actually on My Ghost Story, Episode
15:2963.
15:30So if you check that one out, you can hear about the flashlight and all the other good
15:35stuff, and they got footage of that.
15:37What was this guy's name?
15:38Did you know the guy that died in the basement?
15:41I do not recall that, but when the show came out, somebody called the front office and
15:47talked to Michelle, the office manager there, and go, I knew that guy.
15:51So somebody knows him.
15:53I don't recall the name offhand.
15:54Yeah.
15:54Any other stories that have taken place out there?
15:57Is that pretty much it?
15:58No, no.
15:59I mean, you know, you got to get Joe in here.
16:01You got to get Steve in here.
16:02Get the other guys in here.
16:03They've been touched.
16:04They've been scratched.
16:05You know, Joe talks about some red orb flying through the place and waking him up because
16:09he was sleeping.
16:11You can actually, the building is very unique.
16:15The basement used to be a cab company.
16:17The first floor was retail.
16:18The second floor was a bone alley bar of billiards.
16:20The third floor was offices with a little bit of parking.
16:23The main parking lot was the roof.
16:24So you can drive your car anywhere and all over.
16:27You can drive your car on the roof.
16:28Wow.
16:29So he was working at his car in the basement, and he worked late, so he was just sleeping
16:33in the back.
16:34And yeah, he has this whole story about this red orb coming through his truck, waking
16:38him up, and he's terrified.
16:42He won't stay there by himself anymore?
16:43Oh, no.
16:44Not too often, you know?
16:46So when people go through Aribus, they go through all four floors?
16:50We take you, we bring you up.
16:52Yeah, we take you all the way to the third floor, bring you all the way down to the basement,
16:55and then back up to the first floor and out.
16:57And how many people will go through in a typical season?
17:01Tens of thousands.
17:02Yeah.
17:02Every, you know, we start off slow.
17:04Obviously, you know, I mean, a lot of people complain, oh, my God, it was backed up.
17:08We had to wait so long.
17:09If you don't want to wait in a long line, don't come on Sweetest Day.
17:12Oh, is that?
17:13That's the day, huh?
17:13Wow.
17:13That's the day.
17:14Sweetest, you know, there's two, three weekends there.
17:17We're going to be busy.
17:19We also have dynamic ticketing, you know, trying to, that's our highest ticket price, but
17:23you can come, you know, it's a $35 ticket.
17:25If you come on a $20 a day, it's the same show.
17:28We're just trying to get people to come on the slower days, you know?
17:32Oh, I got you.
17:32Yeah, so it's more expensive on the weekends, you're saying?
17:35Correct.
17:35Yeah, I got you.
17:36And, of course, you're probably in that mood where you want the weather to be kind of a
17:41little bit darker, probably pushes people towards your place.
17:44You know what?
17:45It's not the dark.
17:47It's the coolness.
17:48Coolness, okay.
17:49It's the autumn air coming in, you know?
17:51I mean, as soon as it gets a little cold, boom, it's Halloween time, you know?
17:55I mean, it's fall time.
17:56You know, up until that point, it's, you know, it's boats, bikinis, and beaches, and beer
18:00kind of thing, you know?
18:01So, yeah.
18:03So, Michigan's very unique in that regards.
18:06And what do you got that's new?
18:07Obviously, you got the Making of the Monster.
18:08Anything else that's new for this year?
18:10We got the Making of the Monster.
18:12We brought out new crew in, so we got new blood that's in the haunted house.
18:16We redid the whole clown section.
18:18We're revamping a couple areas.
18:21A lot of new things going on at Making of the Monster.
18:23We also were opening Audities and Curiosities Museum.
18:26Yeah, tell me about that, because there's a few of those type of things here in Southeast
18:30Michigan, with the Horror Museum down in Monroe, and you got the Museum of Death up in Mount
18:35Clemens.
18:36So, tell me about what you got.
18:37Ours will be a little bit different.
18:39You know, we have a little bit of that stuff.
18:41We have dinosaur bones.
18:42We got Mortician and, you know, Funeral Parlor stuff.
18:47We got 350 vintage Halloween masks.
18:49I got a Petrified Leprechaun and a Tooth Fairy.
18:52I got a Fiji Mermaid.
18:54You know, we got Stuffed Piranhas.
18:56We got just, I probably got the world's largest collection of figurines, which are, they're
19:04all, what do they call them?
19:08I don't want to say the Underworld, but that's not right.
19:10You know, from The Hobbit.
19:11The Lord of the Rings kind of thing.
19:14This guy is the guy they send, they make them, they send them to him.
19:19He hand paints each and every one of these things and has, like, tons of hours.
19:23It's a 20-year collection, and there's thousands of pieces.
19:27Wow.
19:28But it's pretty incredible that you look and just took to paint all these things.
19:32And now, is this separate from going through Erebus, or is this all part of the deal?
19:36Completely separate.
19:37We teamed up with Steve Shipp.
19:38But most of that stuff was actually in his house in his basement.
19:42Yeah.
19:42I mean, all this crazy stuff.
19:44You can't believe how much stuff is in this thing.
19:47It's totally separate.
19:48You know, it'll be open probably on the weekends.
19:51We're trying to get that open by the end of the month here.
19:53Yeah, when you brought up the wicker caskets and whatnot, it reminded me of, at the Museum
20:00of Horror, upstairs, Nate Thompson, they had, like, all this old funeral stuff.
20:06Okay.
20:07And they had all caskets and different things like that up there.
20:10He teamed up with Todd from the Museum of Death.
20:14Yeah.
20:14So a lot of that stuff is Todd's stuff up there.
20:17Yeah.
20:17They kind of intertwine with each other.
20:20Good guys.
20:21There's just a lot of that kind of stuff that I've unearthed since I started doing this Haunted
20:24Michigan project here in Michigan.
20:26There's a lot of cool things.
20:27Oh, man.
20:28You got...
20:28It's funny because, you know, as a normal guy, I own probably 70 caskets, 80 caskets.
20:35That's not a normal guy, by the way.
20:37Normal guys don't own 70 caskets.
20:39It's funny because my aunt one time goes, here you go, Ed.
20:42And she gave me this bag, opened the bag up.
20:44And I'm like, what the hell?
20:46It's a petrified squirrel.
20:49You know, teeth are being, you know, skin's pulled back, showing the teeth.
20:51And I'm thinking, she goes, well, you're in the Haunted House business.
20:54I figured you'd like that.
20:55I'm thinking, you know, it's kind of like talking to my daughter.
20:59Everything is pretend.
21:00You know, hey, they're rubber bodies, man.
21:02They're not real, you know?
21:04That's how Jeffrey Dahmer started out with petrified squirrels or something, right?
21:08That's right.
21:09Man, I went to Milwaukee last year, and I went to this place.
21:12Well, actually, I went to this place called The Rave.
21:14I don't know.
21:14Maybe it got into my psyche, but I was watching the Dahmer stuff on Netflix.
21:18So I went to Milwaukee.
21:19I wanted to see the Harley-Davidson Museum and the whole thing.
21:21So I went to a concert with Gwar the night, you know, one of the nights there.
21:24And I went to this place.
21:25So it was October 28th, right around Halloween season.
21:27I'm at this place called The Rave, which is supposedly, like, really haunted.
21:30It's from the 1920s.
21:31It's like a poor man's Masonic temple, you know?
21:33Okay.
21:34And right across the way, there's the Ambassador Hotel where Dahmer killed one of his people.
21:38So it's like, oh, it's kind of crazy.
21:40But no Dahmer rooms in your place?
21:44No, not this year.
21:46You know what, though?
21:46We still have – we had Miss Patty's meat pies.
21:49We serve meat pies at the exit, you know, or, you know, you can buy a meat pie and have a meat pie while you're waiting in line and stuff.
21:55But then when you go through the Haunted House, you can kind of see how the meat pies are made.
21:58So, you know, it's like, I don't know.
22:00Well, you know, our T-shirt said we had the freshest human meat available, you know?
22:05That's hysterical.
22:06Well, I wish you guys nothing but the best this year.
22:09Erebus Haunted House once again opened since 2000.
22:12And you got the Making of the Monster.
22:14And all this stuff is on the website.
22:16People can find out all the details.
22:17Yeah, everything's on hauntedpontiac.com.
22:21Making of the Monster is also separate if you want to do that.
22:24But you can link to it through hauntedpontiac.com.
22:28By the way, how has Pontiac treated you guys?
22:31Pontiac's treat is awesome.
22:32Yeah, good.
22:33You know, at first, I don't know if they wanted a haunted house in their city.
22:37Right.
22:37You know, not knowing what we were going to do.
22:39But, I mean, we've gotten world recognition.
22:42We've got people that fly in from different states, different countries and check us out.
22:46We just had a convention come in from Chicago a couple months ago.
22:51And so, you know, we pull a lot of people to downtown Pontiac.
22:54Any celebrities come through?
22:57Celebrities, hockey players, basketball players.
23:00Yeah, a little bit of everything.
23:01You know, sometimes incognito.
23:02Sometimes they call us.
23:03And, you know, we have to sneak them in the back door and sneak them through.
23:07You know, at one point in time, we had ICP actually acting in haunted house.
23:10So, you know, a little bit of everything, you know?
23:13Yeah, I was going to say, the guys, any of the bands playing over there at the Crowfoot
23:15want to walk through, I guess, huh?
23:17All the time.
23:18Yeah.
23:18Yeah.
23:19But sometimes it's tough, depending on how late they play and how late we're open, you know?
23:23Yeah, I got you.
23:24Well, thank you so much, by the way, for coming in.
23:26I appreciate you having us.
23:27It's an honor to meet you.
23:29And, Erebus, once again, you can check out all the information on hauntedpotiac.com.
23:34Is that correct?
23:34Correct.
23:35All right, there you go.
23:36Haunted Michigan, I'm your host, Meltdown.
23:37Thank you so much for watching.
23:39Happy Halloween.