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00:00105.1 The Bounce, Detroit, Stoback,
00:02Fit Pop and R&B, it's your boy Showtime, the czar,
00:04in studio.
00:06You might have seen this guy
00:08do some of the dopest
00:09week-to-week NFL recaps.
00:12Outside of that, he's just a super dope
00:15rapper, man, and a multi-talented
00:17individual, man. Chef Geech, what up, though?
00:19What up, though? What's the work?
00:20Man, thank you for being here.
00:22My baby, thank you for having me, man. It's a pleasure.
00:24Always. Support, show love,
00:27and people show love and support to me,
00:28so I'm always with this.
00:30Thank you. Chef Geech, the name.
00:32How did you get that name? Did you start cooking first,
00:35then wrapped? I literally just had
00:37this conversation with somebody, like,
00:39five minutes before I walked in here.
00:41Really?
00:42Somebody just asked me that same question.
00:44And I gave them the long-winded answer.
00:46I don't know how to give you that answer that's shorter.
00:50Geech,
00:51Geech come from
00:53being around some people. I used to live in the South.
00:56I was going to college in Florida, and I used to hang
00:58with some people, they used to say,
00:59Geechee, anything, Geechee, anything good.
01:01So then when I started rapping,
01:03well, trying to figure out my rap name,
01:05I had went with Geech for multiple reasons.
01:07Not just that, but also,
01:09it got something to do with Big Meach.
01:10And then,
01:12I was like,
01:14I took the big off
01:16and just kept it at Geech,
01:17and then somebody had that name,
01:18so I was like,
01:19dang, I got to figure out
01:20what I'm going to change it to.
01:21And everybody was like,
01:22just do Chef Geech,
01:23because in all my raps,
01:24I was saying,
01:24Chef Geech,
01:25Chef Geech.
01:26And I went to school for culinary too,
01:28so that was why.
01:29Oh, so you did have
01:29like a background in cooking.
01:30Okay.
01:31Yeah, yeah,
01:31I've been cooking.
01:32I mean, I was cooking.
01:33I'm retired now,
01:33but I used to cook for like,
01:35like 10, 12 years after college.
01:36I seen a video of you saying
01:38you started rapping at like nine.
01:39Yeah.
01:40Okay.
01:40I started rapping
01:41when I was a little kid, yeah.
01:42What got you?
01:43Who's some of your influences
01:44at nine years old?
01:45Nine years old?
01:46Yeah.
01:46A little Bow Wow.
01:47No, that's real.
01:48That was why I started rapping.
01:51It was because of a little Bow Wow.
01:52I seen a little Bow Wow rapping
01:53and I was like,
01:55it was like some hater.
01:56Like, I could do that.
01:57Yeah, you could do it.
01:58You know what I'm saying?
01:58Like, this little boy rapping,
02:00getting rich,
02:00like, man, I could do that.
02:02You know what I'm saying?
02:02Yeah, yeah.
02:03And I was cold too,
02:04as a youngie.
02:05Like, I was cold.
02:07So, I mean,
02:08you kept stuck with it.
02:09Nine years old,
02:10but I didn't start taking it serious
02:11until I got to college.
02:12You went to,
02:12you said Florida State?
02:13I went to the Art Institute
02:15of Jacksonville, Florida.
02:16Okay.
02:16Why down there?
02:17What made you want to...
02:18Um, that's a funny story too.
02:20So, I went,
02:21when I graduated high school,
02:22like, I wasn't like,
02:23top of the class.
02:24And I was like,
02:24a mid-grade student,
02:26like, C's and stuff.
02:27Well, I was like,
02:28D's and E's
02:29in my early years.
02:30And then junior, senior,
02:31I got like, A's and B's.
02:32So, it leveled out.
02:33Right.
02:34So, all my friends
02:35was going to Michigan,
02:35Michigan State and stuff.
02:36I'm like, dang,
02:37I'm about to go to Schoolcraft,
02:38Community College,
02:39and I'm like,
02:40why you say it like that?
02:41But look,
02:42that's how,
02:43at first I didn't trip
02:44because Schoolcraft
02:45was like a culinary school.
02:47So, I'm like,
02:48I'm going to Schoolcraft.
02:49So, I remember I had
02:49an open house
02:50and this girl
02:51that I used to talk to
02:51pulled up to my open house.
02:52She was like,
02:53so, what you got planned for?
02:54She was a great hire than me.
02:55So, she had already graduated.
02:56She's like,
02:57so, what you got planned
02:57now that you graduated?
02:58I'm like,
02:59I'm going to Schoolcraft.
03:00She's like,
03:00just like everybody else.
03:01I'm like, dang.
03:03You know what I'm saying?
03:04Right, right.
03:05So, I was like,
03:05dang, then the next day
03:06I was like,
03:07I don't want to go to school
03:08at Schoolcraft.
03:09She's like,
03:09where you want to go?
03:09I'm like,
03:10I don't even want to stay
03:10in the state.
03:11She's like,
03:12where you want to go?
03:13And we just started
03:13looking up places
03:14and I was like,
03:15let's go to Jacksonville, Florida.
03:16It was just random.
03:17Like, let's go to Art Institute
03:18and then we looked up
03:19all the different Art Institutes.
03:20I was like,
03:20let's go to Jacksonville, Florida.
03:22And at first I didn't get accepted,
03:23I had to write a whole letter
03:24to them
03:25and it just panned out that way.
03:26They loved the letter
03:27I sent them
03:27and I was like,
03:28this was heartfelt.
03:29It was honest.
03:29It was true.
03:30We want to accept you
03:31or whatever.
03:32What made you come back
03:32to the city?
03:34I don't live here right now.
03:35Oh, you don't?
03:40Explain that, bro.
03:41What is that exactly?
03:43It's like a competition?
03:44So, yeah,
03:45everything you asking
03:47is wonderful questions
03:48because it's all funny stories.
03:50But I live in California.
03:51I've been living out there
03:51for like five years.
03:52Most people don't know that.
03:53Like, people think
03:54I've been out here doing recaps.
03:55I've been in California
03:56this whole time doing that.
03:57And I just be coming
03:58back and forth a lot.
04:00So, um,
04:01uh,
04:03the Taco Madness situation.
04:04So, me and my partner, Roger,
04:06that's who shoot all my recaps.
04:07He helped me come up
04:08with all my creative ideas.
04:10So, we was just sitting down
04:12one day like,
04:13because a lot of people
04:14would just be seeing me rap
04:15and they'd be like,
04:16yo, we want to get you
04:17to do some rap.
04:18And I'm like,
04:18I ain't no jingle.
04:19Like, I'm not,
04:20you don't get the Lions mixed up.
04:21Like, I really rap.
04:22You know what I'm saying?
04:23Like, I got features
04:23with some of the biggest artists
04:24in the city.
04:25So, I'm like,
04:27I just did the Lions stuff
04:28and just came up.
04:29So, people be thinking
04:30I'm about to do like,
04:31look, yo,
04:31can you rap about the Pistons,
04:32rap about this,
04:33rap about that?
04:33I'll be like,
04:34no.
04:35I'm like, man,
04:35let's do some music.
04:36Let's do some stuff
04:38or do something
04:38that show my personality
04:39and people be like,
04:41it's like they don't know
04:42that I got a personality
04:43and I'm like,
04:44I don't know how you can't tell
04:45by the music,
04:46but it's like,
04:46say less,
04:47we just gonna start
04:47making content
04:48that showcases.
04:49So, of course,
04:50we went the culinary route
04:51because that's where I'm from.
04:52So, you know what I'm saying?
04:53We was like,
04:53let's do something with food.
04:55And I was like,
04:55I want to do what everybody do,
04:56like eating food
04:57and reviewing it,
04:58but I don't want to do
05:00what everybody doing.
05:00Right, right.
05:01I can make it creative
05:02and we was like,
05:03let's make it a competition.
05:04You know what I'm saying?
05:05Let's do this place
05:06versus this place.
05:07And then it was right
05:08around March Madness.
05:09We was like,
05:09let's just make it March Madness.
05:11So we called it Taco Madness
05:12and yeah,
05:14stay tuned
05:15because we're going to come
05:16to the D
05:16and do other stuff.
05:19You know what I'm saying?
05:19I can't talk too much.
05:20Okay, all right, cool.
05:21I respect it.
05:22Let's talk about
05:23the rapping thing, man.
05:24You,
05:25the Lions thing,
05:27what got you starting
05:27to doing that?
05:28You said your boy
05:28in California
05:29told you something
05:31a little bit about that.
05:31What made you start
05:32really doing it week to week?
05:33Because it's not just
05:33the Lions that you do,
05:35but just the NFL recap, bro.
05:37Yeah, Roger,
05:39that's my brother.
05:41We had just,
05:42literally,
05:42we had just started,
05:43we've been knowing
05:44each other for years,
05:45but we've never worked.
05:45And he's like
05:46a prominent camera guy
05:47in California,
05:49director.
05:50And we've been knowing
05:51each other for years
05:52through music
05:52because he used to do music.
05:54And he was just like,
05:54man, let's start working.
05:56Like, we got a friendship,
05:57but there's no reason
05:58why you dope,
05:58I'm dope,
05:59and what we do
06:00and we ain't make
06:00no content or nothing.
06:01So anyways,
06:03he talked me into it.
06:04I'm like,
06:04let's make some content.
06:05And like,
06:06I want to say the recaps
06:07was like our third,
06:08fourth video
06:09we ever made together.
06:10And it came about
06:12because we just used
06:13to be sitting there
06:14brainstorming like,
06:15how can we come up
06:15with something dope
06:16or creative?
06:17And then one day
06:17he called me
06:18and he was like,
06:20I think I got something dope,
06:21but I don't know
06:22if you're going to mess with it.
06:22I'm like,
06:23well, he was like,
06:23you should write about the NFL
06:24since we both football fans.
06:26And I was like,
06:26no,
06:27that's not gimmicky.
06:28Right, right.
06:29And then he was like,
06:31all right,
06:31but I had a talk with God about it
06:33that same,
06:34that very moment he did it
06:35because God had humbled me
06:37earlier that week.
06:38And I was like,
06:39I feel like this guy
06:41trying to humble me again.
06:42You ain't no better
06:43than nobody, bro.
06:44Go on ahead and try it.
06:45So I just started writing
06:45and then I text him
06:46like this junk actually
06:47sounded pretty fire.
06:49And he was like,
06:50let's shoot it.
06:50And we shot it the next day
06:52because when we,
06:53when we,
06:53when he came up with the idea,
06:54it was Wednesday
06:55and Thursday is
06:57when football come back.
06:57I'm like,
06:58if we do this,
06:58we got to do it now
06:59because football come back on tomorrow.
07:00It ain't going to make no sense.
07:02He was like,
07:02let's do it this
07:03and drop it right before
07:04Thursday night football.
07:04So we did it,
07:05dropped it
07:05and the first one went viral.
07:08People look forward to them.
07:09I'm one of them people
07:10that look forward to the videos.
07:11I ain't going to cap with it.
07:13But I'm going to ask you
07:14a similar question
07:15that I asked Kid J, man.
07:17The type of rapping that you do,
07:18it's not popular anymore.
07:20You're a lyricist, bro.
07:21For sure.
07:22How are you able to do that
07:23in 2025 with the way
07:25that male hip hop in particular
07:27is, you know, portrayed now?
07:29I think that,
07:30that's a great question.
07:32I think that it's a few things.
07:35One, I do got a little ratchet in me.
07:38That's real.
07:39I'm a lyricist,
07:41but I grew up on Black Icewood
07:43and Rock Bottom.
07:45You know what I'm saying?
07:45Them my favorite artists, period.
07:47Not just in Detroit,
07:48just period.
07:49That's what I grew up on.
07:50But I was a mindful kid.
07:52I listened to Eminem too
07:53and, you know what I'm saying,
07:54and J and Big and I.
07:56So it was like,
07:57I'm the best of both worlds,
07:59I feel like.
08:00And in today's day and day,
08:02you just got to be yourself.
08:03And you got to know,
08:04like me personally,
08:06to answer your question,
08:07me personally,
08:08I feel like what separates me
08:09from a lot of other rappers
08:10is I market while I rap.
08:12I don't just be writing
08:13and rapping just to be creative
08:16or dope.
08:16I'm sitting up there thinking about,
08:17dang, what can I say
08:19that's going to make the crowd
08:20what can I say
08:21when I perform?
08:22It's going to do it.
08:23I'm giving away sauce right now
08:24that I shouldn't.
08:25But what can I do
08:26to make this genre mess with it,
08:28this demographic mess with it,
08:30this like,
08:30I don't never just be sitting there like,
08:32I'm also marketing,
08:33but I'm always being myself.
08:34It's hard.
08:35It is.
08:35It's as hard as I make it sound.
08:37Like, it ain't easy,
08:38but I've been doing it for so long.
08:40You ever be afraid
08:41that because people only see you
08:42doing the NFL raps,
08:45because after I saw you do that,
08:46I'm like, oh, he can really rap.
08:48So I dig a little deeper.
08:49Now I'm like, okay, yeah,
08:50he for real about it.
08:51You ever get nervous
08:51that people only see that
08:52and they're like,
08:53oh, he's a gimmicky rapper,
08:54he can't really,
08:54is that ever.
08:55Okay.
08:55Absolutely.
08:56I get discouraged sometimes,
08:58but I'm also at a point right now
09:00in my life where
09:01I'm not too in love with hip hop
09:03like I used to be.
09:04Why is that?
09:05To be honest,
09:06it's just dead.
09:07It's dead.
09:08And I don't feel like,
09:10as sad as it is to say,
09:11I don't feel no responsibility
09:13to revive it.
09:16I don't.
09:16I just don't.
09:18I'm going to let it die.
09:19Wow.
09:19Just be honest,
09:21where it's at right now,
09:22what people is making,
09:23what they doing.
09:24It might be because of my age.
09:26I'm 33.
09:27So it's like,
09:28I'm up there now.
09:29I don't really feel
09:30how I used to feel at 23
09:31when I was rapping.
09:32Yeah, yeah.
09:32So, you know,
09:33it's just like,
09:34but I think
09:35the reason why I asked you
09:37about the lyricist's question
09:38is because of,
09:40I feel like the females in hip hop,
09:42they kind of
09:43stepping on next.
09:44And I feel like the guys
09:45got to step it up.
09:46So when I hear guys like you
09:47that's really out here
09:48can actually rap, bro,
09:49that's sustainable.
09:51You know,
09:51the stuff that they doing now
09:52is not really.
09:53So that's why I feel like
09:54you are reviving it
09:55without you even trying, bro.
09:56So to hear you say that you're like,
09:58I don't feel that responsibility.
10:00It's like,
10:00do you really feel like that
10:02or is it just like
10:03in the moment thing?
10:04I think that,
10:05yeah, I do.
10:06Like, people be asking me
10:07about where the music at
10:08and I be like,
10:09I don't know.
10:10You know what I'm saying?
10:11Like, I don't,
10:12it's not even on my mind.
10:13It's not even on my radar.
10:14Like, right now,
10:15I just feel like
10:16I'm in a deep bag with,
10:18um,
10:19not just the recaps,
10:20but just as a content creator,
10:22like,
10:22I think people are starting
10:23to see that
10:24I'm a creative
10:25just all around.
10:26Right.
10:27And they don't stop
10:27at the rapping.
10:28Movies, anything.
10:29You know what I'm saying?
10:30So now that I'm showcasing
10:31it to people
10:32and people is like,
10:33dang,
10:33this boy is talented
10:34at a lot of different stuff.
10:36Like,
10:36just as he is talented
10:38at rap.
10:39I've always known that
10:40about myself since a kid.
10:41So now that I get to showcase it
10:43and I'm in rooms
10:43where people see it,
10:44it's like,
10:45dang,
10:45sky's the limit.
10:46I ain't got to just
10:46stop here at rap.
10:47You know what I'm saying?
10:48And then,
10:48I guess what also discourages me
10:50is I know the game.
10:51I've been in the game
10:51for 12 years,
10:52like deep in the game.
10:53Like,
10:53I ain't new to this.
10:54I done have deals
10:54with Atlantic,
10:55everything.
10:56Oh, wow.
10:56So it's like,
10:57I know how this junk work
10:58and it's not worth it sometimes.
11:00You know what I'm saying?
11:01It's like,
11:02I'm straight,
11:03I'll go over here
11:03and make some other money
11:04and I ain't even
11:05about to deal with it.
11:06So that's where I'm...
11:07You said you had to deal
11:08with Atlantic.
11:08Can you talk about that?
11:09Like,
11:09what happened?
11:09Did it just...
11:11So I used to work,
11:12I say I used to work with them.
11:13I ain't never go full
11:15pledge with signing
11:16with them at APG.
11:17They had a publishing company
11:18called APG
11:18I used to work with a lot
11:20and ghostwriting
11:21for your favorites,
11:23you name it.
11:24You know what I'm saying?
11:25Sitting in the studio
11:25all day slaving,
11:27writing music,
11:29hoping and praying
11:30for a placement
11:31and just,
11:34just sitting up there
11:35putting your music
11:36on the shelf for it.
11:37Taking the advisory
11:38from them to put your music
11:39on the shelf for it
11:40so you could push
11:41other artists
11:42and help them
11:42push other artists.
11:43And it just was slave work
11:45and I wasn't rocking with it.
11:47Then I also seen
11:48what the artist
11:49was going through too.
11:50You know what I'm saying?
11:51And all of the splits
11:53and everything,
11:54all the money
11:54that get split up in it
11:56and money that get
11:57taken out of it
11:58that ain't even...
11:58Man, it's a dirty game.
12:00It's a dirty game.
12:02I saw it from my outside
12:03looking in.
12:03And I'm not one of the people
12:04that, don't get me wrong,
12:05some people be in good situations.
12:06I'm not a biased person
12:07at all where I'm just like,
12:09man, everybody go through.
12:10No, some people
12:11have really good situations
12:12but it's rare.
12:14In an industry like that,
12:15I dang it,
12:16I don't even want
12:16no parts of that.
12:18Right now,
12:18you're better off
12:19being independent.
12:20That's what I hear.
12:21But you got to have
12:22a strong team.
12:23Right.
12:24I want to ask you
12:26two more things, bro.
12:29Do you ever feel like
12:30you want to make
12:30an entire project
12:31of music
12:33just showing people
12:33what you...
12:34Yeah, I'm going to drop
12:35something.
12:35I'm about to drop
12:35something in a couple months.
12:36All right, bet.
12:37There we go.
12:38That's what I want to do.
12:38Just because it's like,
12:40you know the good thing
12:41about not caring no more
12:42is that I'm not putting
12:44too much pressure
12:44on myself
12:45to drop no music.
12:46So it's like,
12:48I'm a perfectionist
12:49and I'll be like,
12:50when people be hearing me
12:51and I'll be getting
12:52the compliments
12:53that I respect
12:54and love,
12:54like what you gave me
12:55and I appreciate it,
12:56I'll be feeling like,
12:57dang, I got to come.
12:59Yeah, we need a body
12:59of work, bro.
13:00With some fire.
13:02But at the same time,
13:03I got so much throwaways
13:04on my computer
13:05that I'm feeling like,
13:07man, I could give y'all this
13:08and y'all be satisfied.
13:10I ain't tripping
13:11because I really don't care
13:12no more.
13:13So that's more,
13:14not trying to like downgrade
13:15what I got on my computer.
13:17It's fire.
13:17And even compared
13:19to some of the stuff
13:19we hear every day
13:20is fire.
13:21But is it a body of work
13:23that I'm just sitting there
13:24in album mode
13:25and not comprised
13:26and it's like,
13:27no.
13:28But it's going to be,
13:29I'm about to drop
13:30a selection of music
13:32that's sitting on my hard drive
13:33in an album form.
13:35Back.
13:36Last thing.
13:38Ben Johnson.
13:39Seen you tweet
13:40about Ben Johnson.
13:43You don't think
13:43you being too hard on him, bro?
13:45No.
13:46Let me.
13:46So, so look,
13:48I pulled up
13:49a couple of the tweets.
13:50You did
13:50hand emoji,
13:52AG,
13:53middle finger,
13:54Ben Johnson.
13:55You said
13:55Ben Johnson
13:57got me effed up.
13:58Now I'm pissed
13:59all over again.
14:00That's another tweet.
14:02You said
14:02men's betrayal,
14:03Trump's reinstatement,
14:04OSU winning the title.
14:06It's like they planned
14:06all of this
14:07just to see a black man
14:08crash out on MLK Day.
14:10I swear I did.
14:10It was a bad week that week.
14:11Yo,
14:12why y'all like Ben?
14:13I understand why,
14:15but explain in further detail
14:16to Ben Johnson.
14:18Now let me say this
14:18before I get in the bed.
14:21You bringing up old stuff.
14:23At the same time,
14:25I knew,
14:27I knew Jesus
14:28when I,
14:28when I,
14:29when I made them tweets,
14:30but I ain't know Jesus
14:31how I know Jesus.
14:32Now,
14:32so let me just say that.
14:33So,
14:34that after Ben Johnson,
14:35you know what I'm saying?
14:36But I know Jesus
14:37a little bit more now,
14:38so I ain't really.
14:39You got in that headspace.
14:40That's cool.
14:41That's a little over the top.
14:42That's why I asked,
14:43bro.
14:43You was like mad at him,
14:44bro.
14:45But you know,
14:45he had me messed up,
14:46though,
14:46because I was at that game.
14:48I was at that Washington game
14:50and I got it on video.
14:52I'm sitting there every play,
14:53like,
14:54why we not running the ball?
14:55Like,
14:56what is,
14:57bro got 10 yards of carry.
14:59Why we not running the ball?
15:00Like,
15:00this ain't making no,
15:01I'm sitting there every five seconds
15:02asking my camera,
15:04like,
15:04why we not running the ball,
15:05bro?
15:05Am I tripping?
15:06Am I woo woo?
15:07Every play I'm questioning,
15:08like,
15:09why is it third and two
15:10and he in a shotgun,
15:11empty backfield?
15:13Like,
15:13why is it,
15:13it was just so much stuff
15:15that I just ain't never seen him do.
15:17Right.
15:17Now let it be told,
15:18he's the one that calls
15:19all the plays on offense,
15:20right?
15:21So if he the one
15:21calling all the plays on offense,
15:23like,
15:23what is you,
15:23like,
15:24we could have won that game
15:25with flying colors.
15:27And then you left the next,
15:28like,
15:29next day.
15:29Yeah.
15:30So he feel like it was a setup,
15:31like he kind of dropped the ball.
15:32Yeah,
15:33bro, like,
15:33like,
15:34like,
15:34Cliff Kingsbury,
15:35the offensive coordinator
15:36for the Washington Redskins.
15:39He got a bunch of job offers,
15:41right?
15:42Like,
15:43right after the season
15:44because he did his thing
15:45and he already been a head coach.
15:46Bro,
15:46he turned every offer down,
15:48like,
15:48bro,
15:48I'm not talking to y'all
15:49until the playoffs are.
15:51Right.
15:51Our team was the only team
15:53that had coaches
15:54interviewing for positions
15:55during the playoffs.
15:57So I'm mad at AG too,
15:59don't get me wrong,
15:59but AG didn't go to our rival.
16:02You feel me?
16:02So it's a smorgasbord
16:03of you interviewing
16:05during the playoffs
16:05so you're not focused.
16:06First off,
16:07you,
16:07if Cliff Kingsbury
16:08could tell teams,
16:09wait till after the postseason,
16:10bro,
16:11you the hottest coach
16:11on the market.
16:12You could tell everybody,
16:14I ain't making no decision,
16:15I ain't having no interviews
16:16till we win the Super Bowl.
16:17You feel me?
16:18So based on your play calling,
16:20I feel like you was not focused,
16:21you was not locked in,
16:22or you sabotaged us.
16:24I ain't know that type of person,
16:26but I ain't leaving it
16:27out the window.
16:28Right.
16:28You know,
16:29and then you went to the Bears.
16:30It's like...
16:31Now,
16:31that's the only thing
16:32I'm okay with
16:33because it's the Bears.
16:34Now,
16:35it's just my opinion,
16:36bro.
16:36Talk to me.
16:37Had he went to
16:38like a Green Bay
16:39or a Minnesota team,
16:41I know that they wasn't
16:42in a position to get a coach,
16:43but let's just say
16:44Green Bay had like a midseason.
16:45It was like eight and nine
16:46or whatever,
16:47you know what I mean?
16:47Yeah.
16:48And then he's like,
16:48okay,
16:48I'm gonna go to Green Bay,
16:50a team that's really contending
16:51with the Lions.
16:52Then I gave him the side eye.
16:54He going to the Bears,
16:55bro.
16:55He got to rebuild.
16:56Everything that he did here,
16:58he ain't gonna just go
16:58over to Chicago and do it.
16:59No,
16:59but the Bears...
17:00And the...
17:01Okay,
17:01I feel you.
17:02Keep going.
17:02And the...
17:03What's the term I'm looking for?
17:04The lifespan
17:05or the turnaround
17:07for coaches in the NFL?
17:09Yeah.
17:09If he don't do it
17:10in like two,
17:10three years,
17:11bro,
17:11he got it there.
17:11And I don't know
17:12if Ben Johnson's
17:13the leader of me.
17:13So that was my only thing.
17:15When I seen that,
17:15I'm like,
17:15I get it.
17:16But he going to the Bears.
17:17I'm not worried about that.
17:18I'm not mad at you
17:19for feeling like that.
17:20Only...
17:21I am mad at a few things.
17:22One,
17:23the Bears is...
17:25They gonna be good eventually.
17:27I'm just not so right now.
17:29That's my only thing.
17:30Oh, yeah.
17:30No,
17:30I don't think Ben is.
17:31But he know what it's gonna be.
17:33Yeah.
17:33And I know what it's gonna be.
17:34And then you gotta look
17:35at their window
17:36versus our window.
17:37They got a longer window.
17:39They got a 10-year plan.
17:39All right, bro.
17:40We only need a year or two
17:41to get a Super Bowl.
17:42By that time...
17:43Yeah.
17:44They got a 10-year plan.
17:44We got a four-year plan.
17:45So I'm looking at it
17:46like that.
17:47Like, bro,
17:47he actually went to...
17:48He went to the right thing.
17:49He went to the most potential team
17:51in the division.
17:52100%.
17:52100% agree with you right there.
17:54It's just...
17:54I hate it was in our division.
17:56That's really what it is.
17:56Yeah, that's what...
17:57I don't care.
17:57I understand what you're saying.
17:58Minnesota and Packers,
18:00I don't rock with them.
18:01But don't sleep on the Bears
18:02just because they've been
18:02trash lately.
18:03Like, they got the most potential
18:05sitting up there
18:05and they got the most money.
18:06And it's like...
18:07Yeah.
18:08He went to the...
18:09It is what it is.
18:10All right.
18:10So new project.
18:12We still got to wait on that, man.
18:13But what is something
18:14that you want people to know
18:15that you got coming up
18:16other than the taco thing?
18:18Man, get ready.
18:19The season is coming up.
18:20Draft is Thursday.
18:21So shout out to the Pistons, too,
18:24doing their thing.
18:25I might do a recap
18:26for the playoffs.
18:27Okay.
18:28I might do that.
18:29And yeah, project coming.
18:30I mean, the title of it,
18:32I can tell y'all that.
18:32It's called Saffron, My Vices.
18:35Usually my projects
18:36be saying Saffron in the beginning,
18:37which is like my second alias.
18:39And it'll say my something.
18:40So it's going to be called My Vices
18:42because it's like
18:43my last little bit
18:44of secular music I got left.
18:47All right.
18:48But appreciate you
18:49for stopping in
18:50and talking with me, man.
18:51Thank you for coming in here.
18:52Lions season.
18:53We're going to have
18:54to chop it up again,
18:55but see what's going on.
18:56But I appreciate you
18:56for coming in here.
18:57Thank you for having me, boys.
18:58One on five.
18:59One to bounce.