JAKARTA, KOMPAS.TV Presiden RI, Prabowo Subianto membuka sesi tanya jawab saat acara pertemuan Bill Gates dan para filantropis Indonesia pada Rabu (7/5/2025).
CEO Danantara yang juga Menteri Investasi dan Hilirisasi, Rosan Roeslani, hingga Hashim Djojohadikusumo tampak mengajukan pertanyaan kepada Bill Gates mengenai isu pendidikan hingga kesehatan.
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CEO Danantara yang juga Menteri Investasi dan Hilirisasi, Rosan Roeslani, hingga Hashim Djojohadikusumo tampak mengajukan pertanyaan kepada Bill Gates mengenai isu pendidikan hingga kesehatan.
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00:00Mungkin ada yang mau menyampaikan pandangan atau pertanyaan, saya persilakan.
00:11Silakan.
00:15Terima kasih, Bapak Presiden.
00:17Well, first of all, thank you, Mr.Gate, for your contribution to Indonesia and also to the world.
00:23Well, you know, under the direction of Bapak Presiden, actually, you know, as a minister of investment and also at the same time, I lead the CEO of Danantara, which is our newly established Sovereign World Fund.
00:38And actually, yesterday morning, we had a discussion with your team because in Danantara, we also setting up the Danantara Trust Fund.
00:48Setting up Danantara Trust Fund.
00:50And, you know, on the internal discussion, we are committed, actually, to put one to up to 2.5% of our dividend payout ratio.
01:04So if you look at the number, actually, every year in Danantara Trust Fund, we are going to put every year at least $100 million.
01:13And for the next five year, even five to six year, if you look at the number, actually, we will pledge to put up to a billion US dollar in the Danantara Trust Fund.
01:26So there's a potential collaboration with Gates Foundation also, you know, because we are looking also in the same line of industry, such as education, health, sanitation, and poverty elevation.
01:46So again, there's a potential collaboration, and I will forward to get your feedback also on this.
01:54Thank you.
01:58And ladies and gentlemen, I'm working with Pak Rosan, basically, because every year, I have a $1 billion rolling over grant for all institutions,
02:08and most of them come from the Gates Foundation, like Global Fund, and that is where I learned that in developed countries, the philanthropic funding average is 2% of them.
02:24So the potential in Indonesia, with $1.5 trillion GDP, is $30 billion US dollar per annum.
02:32However, many Indonesian would like to give, but the money they get is actually through Indonesia, but through other countries.
02:41Because during COVID, I received a lot of grant from Pak Mukhtar, Sinar Wijaya, from Tanato Foundation, but through other countries.
02:50The reason is because we don't have a trusted entity, because trust cannot be forced, it has to be earned.
02:57So that's why I talk with Pak Rosan, maybe we can establish, copying what the Masek Trust has, creating a Danantara Trust.
03:07And I wish Pak Bill, you can sit at the board with Pak Ray Dalio, your friends, because Pak Ray Dalio and Bill Gezo should sit at the board of Chinese Philanthropic Education.
03:21Pak Rosan, have the ample of money as a catalytic function, and I believe all of our friends here can contribute also, and you can also help to contribute.
03:34And Pak Gates have a systematic management that can help us, earning the trust for these people, so they can start giving the money to us.
03:44Thank you.
03:51Mr. Gates, would it be possible to talk about non-health issues today?
03:59Certainly.
04:00Thank you.
04:02My understanding is that you're very interested, and you've invested a lot of money in renewable energy.
04:09I've had several meetings with one of your partners, Edward Jung, who is one of your partners, I believe still is one of your partners.
04:16So I'd like to know your thoughts about nuclear energy, SMRs.
04:24I understand you're, in fact, investing in Wyoming, and nuclear energy, SMRs.
04:31You may know that our government is going to embark on a very ambitious nuclear power generation program.
04:39The second thing is on nature-based solutions.
04:42I'm very much into nature-based solutions and environmental issues.
04:49Reforestation, basically, is my passion, wildlife, and through wildlife, reforestation and restore habitats for wildlife.
04:59So I'd like to know what you wanted to do and where you're going with your nuclear and your views on nature-based solutions.
05:08Thank you.
05:12Yeah, so as I started doing the foundation work, it became clear to me that we need low-cost electricity to help countries develop.
05:27But I also started to be educated about climate change and, you know, understanding that, you know, we have to reduce emissions eventually to zero.
05:40And so I talked to my friends about, okay, can we make nuclear energy cheap?
05:47So I started a company in 2006 that's called Terrapower to make what's called a fourth-generation reactor.
05:57Today's reactors are water-cooled, and they have a lot of pressure in the reactor.
06:02And so they're a bit complicated, so often the cost can be very high.
06:06And so I thought, well, it's very hard to start a new design, but that would be a huge benefit.
06:13And so now it's taken longer than we expected.
06:17We started out as being a joint venture in China, and then the U.S. government decided they didn't like us working in China.
06:28And so we had to change, and actually now, as you said, we're building our first reactor in the United States.
06:36There's a lot of countries that really need nuclear energy.
06:41And so we have to make it cheap, and we have to show that this new design is extremely safe.
06:50And, you know, places like Japan, South Korea, France, the U.K., you know, they have in their plans a desire to use nuclear energy.
07:01But right now, the plans are expensive, and so we are hoping, as we build 20 of these reactors, that the cost can be very low.
07:12Part of that would be through a very strong partnership we have with some companies in South Korea.
07:18Hyundai and SK are investors in this work.
07:23And so in 2030, that first reactor would turn on, and so during that decade, we would hope to build over 30 gigawatts.
07:35And the question that I asked on Monday, which now I'm going to address to you, is,
07:42is there any way that we could actually collaborate more and give more?
07:47Because I would like to actually knock on doors to everyone that's present here.
07:57Because the government will not be able to do it alone.
08:00The private sector needs to actually contribute in eradicating illiteracy and improving the teaching quality.
08:10Hence, we can actually achieve higher order thinking.
08:13Unfortunately, that is the biggest hurdle that we experience in finding new talent in employment.
08:22And I heard Papa President had pushed for the AI learning and everything.
08:28Unfortunately, we don't have the infrastructure in terms of the brain capacity to even think properly to create simple tasks.
08:41So I wonder if we could actually use your co-pilot to be deployed to, you know, around Indonesia,
08:52using the hands of CSRs, because there's no way we can do this alone.
08:58No way one party can do it alone.
09:00Using the tools of everybody's CSRs.
09:04As you said, nobody trusts to give money to people they don't know, like Babudi had said.
09:09And I completely agree with that.
09:11So if they know everyone that sits here and actually working for the same cause and the same vision,
09:22the basic need that we need is to help our teachers, teaching faculties all over Indonesia,
09:28from maybe minus 10 to become minus 5, minus 5 to become 0,
09:34and hopefully the more elite education could become more global standard.
09:42So that's, it's a lot of, it's a very big question, but that's basically the essence.
09:50Thank you.
09:50Yeah, so, you know, obviously I think, you know, if you've got two things that help the future of your country,
10:03that health and education, you know, would go together.
10:07The healthier the kids are, you know, less stunting malnutrition, the more they can be educated,
10:14and then, of course, the more they're educated, then their, you know, economic output allows the government to put more into health
10:22and you get this virtuous cycle.
10:25If you look at education statistics in this region,
10:33the exemplar, the two exemplars would be Singapore and Vietnam.
10:38You know, Singapore is kind of amazing, which is, okay, they're rich, and it's partly cultural,
10:46but their education outcomes are really amongst the best in the world.
10:53Vietnam, for its level of income, is the best in the world.
10:58You know, they run, and it's not through the use of technology.
11:02I'm a huge believer that, particularly as you get up into high school and college,
11:07that having access to these learning tools, these tutoring tools from AI will help.
11:17But the key thing that allows a country to be an exemplar is that they train the teachers well,
11:25and they have very high expectations for the teachers.
11:28In some countries, the teachers are so politically strong that asking them to do this,
11:36what's called structured pedagogy, sometimes doesn't work well.
11:42Our education work is a very small part of the foundation, only about 4%,
11:47and most of it's in the U.S., but we have some partners in India.
11:54Ashish Dewan, who's actually a board member of the Gates Foundation.
12:01And India's a good story because five years ago, I would have said to you,
12:05India is not very serious about education,
12:08because the measurements, they weren't paying attention.
12:12But really, in the last five years, they're adopting new practices,
12:16including structured pedagogy.
12:18They're seeing very good improvement from quite a low level.
12:22But they're willing to look at the bad statistics and say, oh, no.
12:28And they have a lot of interstate competition,
12:31whereas one state's doing something well, the other states are like, oh, no, we have to catch up.
12:36So I think they're, you know, even regionally, there's a lot that can be learned.
12:43Then you do want to connect into AI.
12:45The Gates Foundation funds group called Khan Academy that does an AI called Khan Amigo.
12:53And they've had a few philanthropists, like some in Brazil and some in Mexico,
12:59that have gone to them and said, okay, we'll fund bringing that technology
13:04to our country.
13:06So, you know, that would be a possibility.
13:09But, you know, I wish I had enough to do both health and education in a serious way,
13:17but we're 90% health.
13:19But I'm totally aligned with you that education will be important.
13:25and now AI will finally help us with that.
13:36I think because of the time and Mr. Gates' very tight schedule,
13:45he has to fly to New York.
13:46So I apologize if I cannot give the opportunity to all of you.
13:52But at least we have heard the vision of Mr. Bill Gates.
13:57And Mr. Bill Gates promised also to sponsor very important events in Bali.
14:06about, first is about malaria,
14:13and the second is cervical cancer,
14:16two important international conferences.
14:20Most of the important stakeholders around the Asia Pacific will be there.
14:26and we are talking more and more about how we can interface
14:39and cooperate with the Gates Foundation on many critical matters.
14:43So I think we thank you, Mr. Bill Gates, for spending some time with us.
14:51And once again, I would like to thank you on behalf of the Indonesian people
14:56and the government for your commitment
15:00and your attention to important issues that we face.
15:08And yes, we would like to acknowledge your great contribution.
15:18And also we would like to work together with you in the future.
15:24Once again, thank you very much.
15:28Well, thank you all.
15:29You know, I look forward to coming up with partnerships
15:33and all these different areas.
15:36So it's great to be here.
15:38Saya minta maaf yang baru saya belum kenalan,
15:42saya kira bisa maju ke depan untuk kasih tangan ke beliau.
15:45Kapan lagi gitu mobil lagi.
15:49Cepat-cepat ya.
15:51Tunggang foto cepat.
15:52Terima kasih.