The Jeremy Kyle Show 8th February 2010
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00:00one thing the truth will you today clear your name 100 million percent are you
00:06guilty of stealing this money no did you take the money for god's sake no lie
00:10detector results that make or break relationships and you know what revenge
00:14cash revenge you never wanted me to fall in date but it's revenge well i've been
00:19fully but if you were my boyfriend for months then it wouldn't have happened would it he's
00:25a lying cheating he's never gonna change you can do better than him and if you
00:29don't want to listen to that back up to you yeah within but you've slept with him cass
00:34you'm saying you've slept with him who do you think you are we asked nathan since you've
00:40been in a relationship with stacy have you ever had sexual contact with anyone else he said no
00:46well well well he's a cheating rat and she needs some of the truth i've known him five year she's
00:51known on three and i know what he's like inside that that's all on my show it's next
01:04good morning and welcome to the show now as you know we often use the lie detector test and for
01:20many individuals and couples who come here they hope that this test will solve their problems today
01:25as i continue the countdown to that all-important milestone my 1000th episode i'm going to revisit
01:30some people who have been here taken the test and we'll see the impact that has had on their
01:35relationships now imagine this scenario you go to a family wedding you have a great day but when you
01:40come home you discover that 40 000 pounds has been stolen from your house hard to imagine but it did
01:45indeed happen to john he became suspicious of his entire family of everybody and he brought them here
01:50to the show so they could take a lie detector test the big question who did it take a look at this
01:56you had 40 000 pounds in your house yeah you had two guns and when you came back from a family
02:03wedding that your brother didn't turn up to until late yeah that was missing yeah can you tell me
02:07from the moment that you got home and the window has been forced and two guns and 40 grand is
02:14discovered to have been missing why would you point the finger at your brother well got on phone the
02:20police they come there the friends are doing their job after the police had arrived and begun their
02:25forensic work you ended up speaking to your brother for whatever reason on the phone i rang him up
02:29and why be specific why would you suspect him was it something in his voice was it something that he
02:35said what was it what is going on at your own why what's why what's the matter he just comes out
02:40with that straight hello how are you guys what's going on in your house so i said right twice the
02:44police is here my home has been robbed i'll be there now i said don't bother coming tonight see you
02:50tomorrow because there's no point the police is here that you're only in the way that within 15
02:55or 20 minutes she was there why would he come around if he was guilty of stealing the money
02:59don't know but isn't it true that a couple of months before you'd lent him a sizable amount of cash
03:0420 grams 20 grand and he paid that money back yeah so if he knew i mean i'm just saying if he knew that
03:10you were good for a few quid and that he was able to pay you back if he wanted 40 000 pounds why
03:15wouldn't he just ask you well then i know he's got it but if it's him i know he's got it so he's
03:21got to give it back simple as that isn't it why would you accuse your brother the police have done
03:28an investigation there is proof is there not via cctv at a supermarket and apparently because they might
03:34or might not have interviewed him that day about some car which he owned and was taken they have
03:40eliminated him from their inquiries why do you still suspect your brother is responsible that's
03:45my question well i was with the free station yesterday with the main man and the very thing
03:48is it's an inside job whoever done it they said they didn't come in through the window they went
03:53out to the right that's the point i want to hear me out you suspect your brother yeah your brother
03:58suspects your new wife yeah and my daughter and you don't why because she could have had a key cut so
04:04today we are going to lie detect your wife your daughter and your brother the police have done an
04:09investigation none of them no i've been found out to be guilty but something in your heart
04:14and soul convinces you that your brother because you don't know if it's your wife or your daughter
04:20well i want to talk down and talk about one i want to know why this is ron senior on the show ladies and
04:24gentlemen
04:34all right yeah are you all right let's cut to the chase your own brother accuses you of stealing
04:4240 000 pounds initially how does that make you feel what do you say sir truthfully what does one
04:48say about you being accused of stealing something when you know you haven't done it you know you've
04:54never done it i know i've never done it now all i've got to do is prove to you which will be proven
05:00trust me did you not borrow 20 000 pounds off your brother yes mr kyle i did twice not once
05:09and did you not pay him back every penny yes and i paid him back the second time
05:14in two days and not a week so why would he nick your money if he knew he could borrow the same
05:19amount in two installments by asking you explain that to me well i can't answer that question but
05:24it wasn't 20 000 what was stolen it was 40 000 it was double has he ever stolen anything of you before
05:29no what about these alibis apparently when you were late for the wedding round which all this story
05:35seems to settle you were allegedly caught on cctv in a supermarket is that true i was in the supermarket
05:40mr carl yes i've never been called mr carl before fantastic um you also were visited by the police
05:47not something you've done wrong but some car that you owned had been stolen and you say that that
05:51provides you instantly with two alibis cctv at the supermarket and the police don't provide me with
05:56nothing your machine will provide me not no police not no cctv cameras but the police said that he
06:03had he ever stolen anything had he ever stolen anything in your life yes mr carl what bits of
06:09scrap metal being honest truthful i want the same thing as he wants i want him to know that it was not
06:18me it don't solve his problem mr carl who's the person who suggested that there was an ulterior motive
06:26for this and maybe you were behind it because you wanted to hide the 40 000 he said it a few people said it
06:31but what's the point of me hiding money which it's belonged to me and then when the property
06:36sells i got to give it to the ex-wife any i don't know i'm just i'm just advancing your
06:40thing if you did nick the money was it the money the money was known to the guns you were after
06:46to be caught with a shotgun mr kyle's five years automatically and i wouldn't do five years for
06:50the lottery and that is the god's honest truth uh why do you accuse his new wife evelyn then who
06:56accused his wife you do no sir i do not do you accuse his daughter no i don't think his daughter
07:01never done it either so who the hell do you think it it was i did say and i will be honest his daughter
07:07darling did say what she didn't say that is not true one day i went to his own he was gone out
07:14his wife now said i'll ring him she rung him he won't be long do you want a cup of tea yes i'll have
07:22a cup of tea i sought out on a bench his wife sought on his on your doors not the doorstep the
07:32your patio slab then sought on the patio slab so if you can imagine mr kyle two seconds
07:36you're there yes this is darling stood in the doorway this is his wife sought on the step and i was sought
07:48here in all fairness no no what's this got to do with the money the money is this
07:57do you think darling nicked it well sir can you explain to me what this means
08:06sorry could you do that again could you do it again am i that good it's like charades on television
08:17whose line is it anyway hold on a second one letter what is it is it a book or a film you me yeah me
08:24me yeah me money to your heart i've got money for you well what i read sir was she's only here for the
08:33money i'm having it now he's there he can call me a liar if i'm lying then he told me the same so you
08:38suspect because of this game of charades that his daughter might be responsible and she did move out
08:44having fallen out with your new wife yes so might she have a grudge against you for siding with the
08:49new wife and phil i'm just advancing another theory ah i'm not going to get any money because there's a
08:54new woman on the scene i'm going to have it myself might that might that be a theory yes it could be so
08:59why are you accusing your brother if it could be your daughter well she's took a lie detector test
09:02to prove the same as him so and she also should we get her out yeah she's darlene ladies and gentlemen
09:16i haven't done any of them i didn't get so many welcome to the show can we go to um the day of the
09:22wedding were you at the family wedding right i wasn't even in the area did you do those actions
09:31that that uncle ron just did no and if i did i can't remember doing it did you steal the money no
09:38why did you leave the family home do you feel i had an argument with my dad's wife right right evelyn
09:44the end of the day yeah do you think i want to be here i don't want to be here myself yeah and i was
09:48i was gonna steal money which i don't steal i wouldn't steal my own dad's why wouldn't you just ask him
09:52for it exactly do you know what i'm confused did you nick the money no did you nick the money no
09:56i did not what's your new wife called evelyn do you think she nicked the money no let's get evelyn on
10:01the show ladies and gentlemen
10:13evelyn welcome to the show where do you stand on this this whole debate you're the new you two fell out
10:18she moved out that means that he thinks something went on and she was doing sign language did you
10:23steal the money no why would you steal off your own husband well yeah who do you think stole the money
10:28to be honest with you i'm like i'm stuck in the middle um well be honest who do you think
10:33i agree with my husband the way things are going on and the like the things what's happened and that
10:40you know what i mean i don't know why why there's so many lies but what about if your husband's
10:44advanced this theory because he wants to lose the 40 grand hold on a second mr ron right what about if
10:51he one of the theories advanced by certain people wanted to lose the 40 000 so he didn't have to give
10:57it to his ex-wife what if this was an inside job by himself and he's blaming his brother unnecessarily
11:03what would you think of your husband if that's the case what if all three of you passed the lie
11:07detector what if the police are right and all three of you are innocent does the finger of blame not then
11:12point at him yeah but why then i gonna lose a shotgun cabinet cost me 140 pound a shotgun would cost
11:20me 1800 pound a rifle and would cost a lot less than 40 grand to your ex-wife my friend isn't it
11:25who do you think stole the money i still got a refund on the air talking to your wife who do you think
11:28stole the money uh i'm just agreeing with him i want your opinion i'd just agree with him no but who do
11:35you think stole the money well the way things are going on is just looking ronsway okay now join me
11:41after the break when john and his family returned to face the lie detector the big question who
11:45committed the crime i'm right back once he's out of the picture like i said said then i can start
11:51looking at another other other lanes coming all right well should we do what we came to do 24 hours
11:55to do let's let go let's do those lie detector results you heard rumors and you're desperate for
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12:28jeremy kyle welcome back now today i'm revisiting some of the most memorable lie detector test stories
12:36that we've covered in the past four and a half years before the break you saw john and his family
12:40now this guy had discovered 40 000 pounds had gone missing from his house and worse still he suspected
12:46a member of his family committed the crime take a look at what happened when they came here to face
12:50the lie detector will you today clear your name 100 million percent okay 100 million percent let's talk
12:58about your daughter let's start with darlene why did darlene take a lie detector you accused her you
13:04said and i quote yesterday and please don't do it again because it's not shiraz but you imply that at
13:08some moment she was implying with hand signals that she had taken the money mr kyle i never once said
13:15sir that she took the money i only told him the hand signals that she's and i'll repeat she is only here
13:25for the money i having it that is the god's honest truth that's what your daughter did to you
13:31with your new wife in the room which i didn't tell him about you know but you told me she told you by
13:35word of mouth not no answer yeah but you see therein lies a theory did your daughter aged 18 hear me out
13:41think oh right okay dad's got a few quid he must have to 40 grand in a box in his house and step-mommies
13:47arrived they're about to get married i'll tell you what's going to happen here she's going to run off
13:50with all his money i'm going to get absolutely now so this is a theory i'm going to take that that 40
13:55grand and disappear let's get around to explain darlene ladies and gentlemen you've also taken
14:10a test today yeah are you guilty of seeing this money no who is i don't know i'm not pointing
14:15the finger at no one so i don't see why you should point the finger at me because i haven't said to no
14:18one no i'm trying to give all sides can i ask a question yeah i have never once said that you had
14:23his money the only thing i said that her is here for i that is the proof you said that uh to my
14:35researchers ron let me say this please dr darlene darling you said to my researchers that ron cannot
14:39be trusted what do you mean by that well he can't be trusted me in what way why well because of all
14:44this stuff that's all i said you say you are a thousand million percent sure you will pass it you
14:48say look i don't know what hand signal you're talking about i don't really trust you ron and all
14:52this i haven't stolen from my dad yeah yeah and you stand by that yeah absolutely right your new
14:57wife uh evelyn right yeah why would she nick from her husband evelyn ladies and gentlemen
15:03i don't know what to do to me but hold on you two any clearer this morning from yesterday as to who
15:18did this did you you've done you've done the lie detector did you take the money for god's sake no
15:22no no way i volunteered to come here and to go and take the light detector what said nobody could
15:30accuse you well i've never once said you want it and i've talked to you loads of times and i never
15:35once said you want it you know i haven't i wanted to say to you how do you get to accusing your brother
15:39brother but the one way i live my life a lot of the time is gut feeling and this is just something that
15:44won't leave you will it no once he's out of the picture like i said said then i can start looking
15:49down other other other lanes coming all right well should we do what we came to do 24 hours a day
15:54let's let go let's do those lie detector results now what we'll do is read out we asked the same
15:59question to all three of you okay i will repeat so everybody is aware that the lie detector is between
16:0896 and 97 effective but you guys came and you asked for this we start with your new wife evelyn evelyn
16:17we asked you did you steal john's money from the family home she said no i didn't
16:28she was telling the truth
16:37we then asked your 18 year old daughter who i thought very admirably said i'm not pointing
16:41the finger at anybody did you steal your dad's money from the family home
16:46she said no i didn't
16:49because she too was telling the truth
16:58didn't ask your brother you've been very very outspoken about your brother you come here in front
17:02of a load of people and you accuse your brother who says that he's a thousand percent sure he's going
17:07to prove you wrong we said to ron senior did you steal the money from your brother john's home he said no i
17:12didn't
17:15this is a note from the lie detector examiner a person who i have the greatest respect for mr
17:23don't you mr kyle me you listen in my opinion professionally ron is deceptive i believe
17:31that he tried to beat the test i gave him i'm speaking three warnings and seven tests over two
17:39hours the most we've ever given anybody and he would not sit still he kept changing the words
17:46he failed to follow my instructions throughout and in my professional opinion i can only say that ron
17:53is deceptive that it basically let me explain did you steal the money yes or no say yes or no
17:59miss no lady yes or no so no i did not but it doesn't matter i can't explain it don't matter
18:08you explained it a hundred times too as it's the longest one we've ever done
18:11but i know i never done it i know i didn't have your money it's that simple i'm not arguing with
18:15yeah i'm not wrong with you but god only knows i didn't have your money
18:17the chart showed that you couldn't give a straight answer my friend i'm just telling you
18:21the only the only answer i give was no lady no lady she said to me this is what she said to me
18:29if you do not answer just no then i will refuse to do the test so why wouldn't you just say no
18:37mr kyle why wouldn't you just say no instead of no lady but i've been brainwashed into no lady yes
18:43sir no lady yeah i have it's true you just told me by the way for your information i'm not you and
18:50you might leave today thinking whatever about me but you've just put your foot right in the cack my
18:55friend because when i kept saying to you stop calling me mr kyle sir why do you keep doing it a
19:00bit like no lady you said it's a habit i've done it for years you now say you were brainwashed into
19:04saying no lady by an examiner who i believe told you for two long hours to just say yes or no and you
19:11couldn't do it which points to the fact that you're lying for god's sake so why don't you tell
19:15him the truth you don't believe me i can only do what i know i'll do you a favor don't did ron did
19:24you take the money mr kyle sir if i tell you no you don't believe me so what's the point i swear to
19:30almighty god i swear on my fort my my i swear all my children niblo i swear on almighty god i swear
19:36on my children i never had your money then why did they pass mr kyle i'll tell you again why couldn't
19:40you just say yes or no i repeat what was you asking ron there you go on and come and do another
19:44one then ploply fair another one i'll do another one wasting my time on my money my friend the lady's
19:50gone home she spent two hours a lot more time than she should have with you sir she did seven tests and
19:56cost this show an amount of money that we would do for you but you know what don't take the mickey
20:01out me and laugh in my face you had to say yes or no and not fudge the issue what do you expect me to do
20:07now get on my knees and beg the rest of your family to believe you you make your bed mate you
20:11gotta lie in it it's as simple as that john what are you gonna do how you gonna move on well i'll move
20:17on in my time uh we'll ask you to speak to the aftercare team i'll survive i'm gonna move on my
20:22friend john darlene evelyn and ron as well give him a round of applause thank you very much
20:29well i contacted john after the show and this is what he had to say he says jez since the show ron
20:37has still been trying to cause trouble for me and my family he's been proven to be a liar but yet he
20:41still won't accept it when and only when he accepts he took my money and pays it back then we can move
20:46on until that point i want absolutely nothing more to do with him ron though is still adamant that he
20:51didn't steal the cash and it is important that i point out at this moment that the test was inconclusive
20:58so the identity of the thief is still a mystery we'll move on after the break more people face
21:02the lie detector and i am told how this whole thing works don't go anywhere because i'm right back
21:08she did it to me so i've done it back to her so you're saying that you slept with your sister's
21:12boyfriend out of revenge yeah we asked nathan since you've been in a relationship with stacy have you
21:17ever had sexual contact with anyone else he said no well well well
21:28a bombshell that you know will break your daughter's heart good morning i'm jeremy carl and
21:36on today's show feuding sisters cheating lovers and relationships at breaking point
21:40let's do this all important life to take the results it really is time to be honest
21:57well well well she said no i haven't she was lying he said no he was telling the truth
22:03the dna test results showed that of course you're the child's father
22:11you're not the child's father mate sorry why'd you have a one night stand with her then why don't you
22:16put something on the end of it why don't you stay faithful to your girlfriend
22:20i don't think to be rude darling but women like you ought to wise up and stop allowing to procreate
22:24get off my stage now families and relationships should come with a warning sticker i reckon
22:32you're standing up and you're being a parent that's great some advice from an old man
22:38i'm jeremy carl and i'll see you on the next show
22:46welcome back so as i continue the countdown to that all-important 1000th episode today we're revisiting
22:52some of our classic lie detector test moments unbelievably in four and a half years we've
22:56carried out over 500 tests but somehow i never thought it would be me sat here hooked up to
23:01the machine so guy today you're going to do something called a stim test on me what's that
23:05what we're going to do jeremy is ask you to write a number and on that piece of paper in front of you
23:10any number any number between two and eight all right two and eight i'll write the number now
23:13not left-handed but there we go okay number four fantastic you can pass me the pad here sure
23:17what i'm going to do jeremy is i'm going to write you've written the number four there
23:20i'm going to write the number one two three and i'll put five and six there as well okay
23:26let's pop this back down in front of you okay all right okay now you'll connect it up to the
23:31polygraph so what i'm going to do is i'm going to ask you some questions about that piece of paper
23:35when we get to the number four i want you to lie to me deliberately okay tell me the truth about all
23:39the others but lie about number four lie about number four lie about number four don't forget okay
23:43now face the front you've got to keep nice and still arms up on the sides there it's quite scary
23:47it comes now pump the fat and pressure cuff up oh 120 over 70. okay all right
23:53okay that should do it fantastic so keep nice and still jeremy and here we go remember you're
23:57going to lie about number four tell the truth to the others okay okay on the piece of paper in
24:03front of you did you write the number one no on the piece of paper did you write the number two no
24:09did you write the number three no on the piece of paper did you write the number four no did you
24:18write the number five no on the piece of paper did you write the number six no okay how did that feel
24:24to answer those questions jeremy it was fine but when i got to four i was i was i was trying to make
24:28it sound as real as possible saying no definitely not you think about it and that's the process of lying
24:33lying means you have to think in a different way you recall information from a different part of the
24:37brain it causes a physiological response so what we've got here if i just show you these are the
24:42numbers when i've asked you the numbers here two number three and number four and you can see quite
24:47clearly your skin resistance here which has been measured by your the resistors on your hand has
24:52changed dramatically at the point that you've answered about number four we've also seen a little
24:56increase in heart rate there and a slowing of breathing rate and that would indicate to us that you're
25:00withholding information and changing it how accurate is this test seriously the test done properly with a
25:06specific amount of limited questions no more than three you're looking at around 95 to 98 percent
25:11which is incredible in itself it's very very accurate very accurate test fascinating i never
25:16thought that it would be me sat here hooked up but i lied about four and the test shows you that
25:21interesting guy thank you so much indeed that's fascinating appreciate that right another person who
25:26came on the show to face the lie detector was nathan he'd been accused of cheating on his girlfriend
25:31stacy but not just with anybody with her own sister did he pass take a look at this so you're still
25:39with stacy yeah the accusations we need to nail her sister k says that you had sex with her on how many
25:47occasions i don't know same once i think when about eight months ago something like that um now the
25:57reason that any girl would be upset if they imagine that you're doing that with their sister that's
26:02enough but where was stacy when this was supposed to have taken place she's in the hospital having a
26:07miscarriage with our baby if this is true that makes you one of the nastiest people i've met yeah
26:15yeah yeah do you absolutely refute these allegations yeah i was at home if i worked
26:19home i was in the hospital looking after a look her as as a person away from this story k how would you
26:24describe her irritating
26:26everyone say she's been look you know she's pregnant now yeah and she's got six potential
26:36dads to the baby now six yeah six you know that for a fact yeah i know every one of them
26:41you know every one of them yeah so what you're saying is a woman with a reputation who might or
26:45might not have six or seven potential fathers to a baby is accusing you uh of sleeping with her
26:50whilst her young sister is in hospital having a miscarriage i go back to it why would she make it up
26:54i don't understand that i don't know so i've never really got on with her that well to be fair i've
26:59always been arguing with her you say that you've done the lie detector to prove sir stacy that k is
27:04a liar should we get her out yeah she's k on the show ladies and gentlemen
27:18you're such a liar you're just a liar no no at all he's a liar can i ask the first question that's
27:24springs to mind in no absolute order here if this is true madam i know you're pregnant what the hell
27:29are you doing sleeping with your girlfriend's boyfriend because you will be part of that
27:33revenge revenge revenge yeah what do you mean she did it to me so i've done it back to her so you're
27:43saying that you slept with your sister's boyfriend out of revenge yeah so you don't feel shame yeah i do
27:48now yeah let me go back to that moment i know you're pregnant um he's had a lot to say about
27:53you it's important that you put your side uh nathan's been with stacy for a couple of years um let's
27:59talk about when this was alleged to have happened how it took place tell me um i was at my mates i was
28:06having a drink now if i'm coming to the house he asked me if he wanted to be walked home i said yeah
28:11um he walked me on i told him we could stop there he did ask so i gave him a quilt put him on the settee
28:18he came upstairs saying he wanted to listen to the an mp3 and he sat on the bedroom floor
28:27and then he sat on the bed and then he asked if he could lie down and i just laughed he lied down on
28:33the bed and then he made the first move right so it's all his fault oh yeah saying it's all his fault
28:39his text too but he made the first move do you have sex once yeah once no protection no is this
28:47around the time you conceived this child no no so there's no way in your mind that he's the father
28:51no no he says that there are potentially six fathers and that actually you didn't use this word before
28:56but but he actually told my uh my researchers that you're
28:58you're nothing how can you say that because you are six gazes that that could be that that why are
29:08you lying it's going to come out now anyway how's it going to come out because it is
29:13do you think you're that gorgeous that i've got a lot about sleeping with you look at the side to you
29:17what do you mean look at the side look at the side to you all right now that's been through all
29:21tuntney just to get a bobby all right i'll tell you now i'll do a day and out this bobby as she's
29:26backstage he say he says he'll do it as well so we're both willing to do a dna so you today are
29:31going to prove for whatever reason and that's actually what i want to ask you the motivation
29:35your motivation about coming here today is to what you've admitted that it was out of revenge against
29:40stacy so what do you get from proving her boyfriend's a liar on national television
29:44i get to prove that he's lying and i'm the one telling the truth i've got nothing to lie about
29:50do you feel bad for doing it now yeah why now because it was a mistake it should never have
29:56happened and if he hadn't come on to me it wouldn't have happened i know that the lawyer
30:00detector test is going to come back that he's lying i'm now i'm wondering if that's the case what
30:05do you think is going to happen to him and stacy to tell you the truth i have to split up because
30:09chickens are better than him you can sit like that you know you batter her she's allowed to do
30:17nothing let's get the lady in question on the show stacy ladies and gentlemen
30:21help me out i need out myself when everyone's lying the truth here is you were going through one of
30:39the most awful things a woman can go through lying in a hospital bed having gone through a miscarriage
30:44and your sister your elder sister says she was having sex with your boyfriend how does that make you feel
30:51i don't know and you know what revenge kai revenge you're never wanting me to phone
30:56today but it's revenge oh come on yeah yeah good enough yeah good enough what did you
31:03then look i says revenge yeah yeah but you were going to tell me but it's revenge yeah shut it up
31:08i'd be funny but if you my boyfriend for months then it wouldn't have happened would it who do you think you
31:15do you want to know something can you be quiet can you be oi oi shut it you whether you like this or
31:25not whether you're going to tell the truth or not via this lie detector with a baby in your belly
31:30should not be using such disgusting language now shut your mouth
31:33i want to get into a whole debate be quiet little rats i am yeah you are yeah what about
31:45you what about me what about me what about you what about you what about you what about you
31:49because are you because your boyfriend no because are you you call just very tall
31:54on one take out two remain let's take that point up with you be quiet hold on one second let's take
31:59that up sit up straight what if he has slept with her what does that mean about your relationship
32:04then we're finished and i've told him that what do you think is going to happen today stace
32:10i don't know i'm being serious i know you're nervous do you think he's going to fail it or pass it
32:15i want him to pass it but i think he's going to fail it nathan
32:18pass it but you say absolutely he'll fail no we've found the one question that she's
32:25let's do those all important lie detector results please as ever we'll read the questions that nathan
32:28was asked the answers that he gave and we'll tell you whether he was telling the truth or not
32:32i actually can't call this one i'm being serious
32:42we asked nathan since you've been in a relationship with stacy have you ever had sexual contact with anyone
32:47else that's anything from a kiss to intercourse he said no well well well
32:58you were lying weren't you
33:03we asked have you ever had sexual contact with k he said no
33:11he was lying sweetheart
33:12thank you what did you just say to her no no at all make sure you don't open your gob again until
33:18i ask you okay what what what because i have to find it
33:23what did you just say
33:34whatever there's a better way of telling her than doing what you say you did we'll get to the final
33:39question have you ever had sexual intercourse with k he said no
33:42i'm sorry darling he was lying
33:48can i deny it now tell me the truth go on no day what no day tell me the truth tell me the truth
33:55what'd you say i'm telling you the truth no you're not you're lying now tell me the truth what emeline
34:00come on come on what you slept with her didn't you know and worst of all you slept with her while she
34:04was having a miscarriage and i don't know what she called you was it rat i put you about a thousand
34:08places below that type of animal in my heart and before you think you can walk out of here and
34:20disappear off all the women that watch this will know what you are can i admit it you're going to
34:25tell me the tests are on i bought what you think think what you want to think did it happen or not
34:29no stays finished you're not bothered are you boy should i be bothered yeah but why should i be
34:40bothered you're not bothered that she's going to finish with you of course i'm bothered that
34:43she's going to be finished you said you weren't do you understand what each word no i'm bothered a bit
34:46though what obviously i'm bothered about that well tell her the truth then told her i don't care
34:53why do you keep lying i can guarantee within an hour or a week or a month somebody from my team will
34:58tell me that you've gone yeah it was true guarantee it right i've contacted stacy since the show and
35:06this is what she said jasmine and nathan are getting on great now we've even talked about getting engaged
35:11i've forgiven him for cheating on me it's now in the past and we're just happy to be moving on with
35:16our lives together good luck to the three of them interestingly nathan still maintains his innocence
35:20and yet backstage with graham in aftercare he admitted what he'd done and guy it begs the question what
35:26would you say to people who maintain their innocence when the lie detector test says you're
35:31lying well like nathan if a person comes on the show and they know they're lying when they answer
35:35the questions it's going to cause a physiological response that's going to be detected by the
35:39polygraph and they will fail the test period end of the story fantastic thank you very much indeed
35:44right next claire contacted the show because she'd received emails that her husband had been sleeping
35:50with an ex take a look at this so you've been together three years how many weeks you've been
35:55married um just over four weeks so you get married everything's grand and then out of the blue
36:02the email yeah tell me what it said what they said um well the first email was like hi my name's
36:08claire i'm gareth sex i was with him about four years ago um just thought you had a right to know
36:15when we were living up in scotland a year ago that me and him were sleeping together so the ideal
36:21start to your honeymoon or married life is it so when you get that email that's just like a massive
36:25shock did you email back did you approach him did you confront him what happened um well gas was out
36:30in the that day um i emailed her back so well well why why haven't you why didn't you why's all this
36:39come from because they've been talking online before we got married and she was like oh i hope you
36:44have a really nice wedding um i'll send down give vouchers as a wedding present and it's just like
36:50do you think that she that claire yeah because you're this claire do you think that she is
36:55systematically trying to destroy this relationship yeah what does he say he he's denied all these
37:01gareth's denying the whole lot do you believe that well yeah because i trust gareth why are we here then
37:07because she's it's not just a case on her accusing saying he's been asleep but she's also turned around
37:15and said he's slept with three weeks before our wedding so he's made she has made a lot of accusations
37:22what's interesting is and i read this this morning that she says i'm only doing this right to make you
37:28realize what a rat you've met married i'm only doing this because i care about you yeah she doesn't want him
37:34destroying my life like he has done with everybody else but then here's a question which i will put
37:39to her later right as she sends you these emails apparently to warn you in graphic detail what a
37:44complete rat gareth is yep and admits that she's sleeping with him despite the fact that she admits
37:50he treated her really badly why would she still be sleeping with him unless she was just out to cause
37:53trouble well at the time she says in the emails that she really did care about him she sent you loads of
38:00emails right yeah is there anything in any of the detail that makes you question him just a small
38:04bit um she knows his mobile telephone number she gave me the mobile telephone number gareth only got
38:10that mobile telephone number a couple of months ago i've asked her where she got that mobile phone
38:15number from and she said she's got it from gareth i've asked gareth and gareth says he doesn't know
38:22poor you horrible
38:23so the big question is gareth a cheat find out after this break we're right back he's a cheating rat
38:32and she's listening to the truth i've known him five year she's gone on three and i know what he's like
38:37inside of you have you heard rumors and you're desperate for the truth maybe somebody's stolen
38:53from you or you want a lie detector test to clear your name now if you're 16 or over and you want
38:57to be considered for the show you can text the word talk with your name to 633 34 text cost 25 pence
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39:15more or go to our website for free it's itv.com forward slash jeremy kyle
39:23welcome back so today as i continue the countdown to a thousand shows i'm here with guy looking back
39:27at some of our most memorable lie detector test moments now before the break claire and gareth she
39:32suspected he'd been cheating with an ex just weeks before the wedding so what did we do we brought
39:38gareth to face this man let's see how he got on take a look at this do you think your husband's a liar
39:44or his ex is a woman scorned desperate to do anything to score points a or b i think she's well b i think
39:52it's she just i god knows what's going on i know i had let's get her out let's have her side of the
39:59story it's important this is claire ladies and gentlemen
40:05you need to know the truth welcome to the show what did you say he's a cheat he's a cheating rat and
40:18she needs to know the truth i've known him five year she's known on three and i know what he's like
40:23inside her can i ask you a very very calm question before anybody jumps in at all if by your own
40:30words he's a lying cheating two-faced whatever who is going to ruin her life right if that is the case
40:38my darling and he did the same to you why are you still having sex with him then
40:44because at the end of the day it's his life is ruining why are you allowing yourself to be sucked
40:54back into that situation because from the outside it would appear very much that you waited for the
40:58optimum moment of misery and are trying to score points there's no something my back in explain the
41:02timing that's nearly three years ago okay but explain the timing why do you wait until after they
41:07are married because after i would have done it before but my mum had a heart attack i had no access to a
41:13computer to find it on facebook when i got access to a computer that's when i said you stand by
41:18everything you've written in those emails yes so you will pass the lie detector which is him who is
41:22lying and will you take satisfaction when he's proven to be a liar yes in knowing that her marriage has
41:27gone down the toilet yes because at least i know i'm the one telling the truth and he's the liar 10 weeks
41:34ago gareth came and spent about an hour an hour and a half at my back well he was at my but we slept together
41:41he did he leave was he away from you at that time he went up i know he went out to scotland
41:48financially we couldn't both go up so he came to sympathize with you and comfort you and had sex with
41:52you did you feel bad about sleeping with somebody else's husband well i didn't know it was a husband
41:56i didn't find out they were getting married until about a week before they were due to get married when
42:00he plastered it all over you only found out a week before the marriage that they were going to get
42:04married so when you were having sex with him 10 weeks ago up in scotland for an hour and a half of great
42:08passion you simply thought he was going out with her what did he tell you allegedly that 10 weeks
42:16ago when he had came on with that for you and he turned around and he says he would leave clear for
42:21me and i'm gonna if it meant he could come back to scotland gareth can't stand scotland and this
42:26ain't just about my marriage that goes down the toilet this is my daughter who called him dad you told
42:34my researchers that you caught a sexually transmitted infection off gareth now at the risk of being
42:40boring you've been married a number of weeks and i presume you've had sexual intercourse to the husband
42:44yeah i never thought when i was at school that i would find myself on national television asking this
42:48question have you got no that's what i was looking for would you be aware that he might have them did
42:57have them could have had them should have had them might look like he has got them
43:00no because if gareth had him he would have passed them on to me you made it a lot better than i did
43:07isn't that true but gareth was the only person i had been with i want to meet the man who has two
43:12women chomping at the bit gareth's on the show ladies and gentlemen
43:14no computer access claire was talking to you and she was watching every conversation that was
43:30getting said and about the vouchers that you were going to send doing for your wedding present and
43:34you asked for the address she's watched me type in your address so didn't start your
43:38passion of any internet access welcome to the show gareth um sorry go on we've not had that on
43:43the access since you smash smash my mom's laptop smart right if i supposedly smashed your mom's laptop
43:48same as you supposedly said that i beat your mother up right hi i'll admit i'm booted that door
43:53down but i've been in solicit and worked it you had 450 pound worth of my stuff gareth gareth welcome to
43:57the show um now we have in front of us either the husband who's a liar or or the ex who's uh terribly
44:03um desperate to ruin uh his new relationship and his marriage with the innocent lady sat in
44:10the middle in the first part when i was talking to claire your wife she said that although she
44:14believes you and ultimately that's how she wants to be there was too much finite detail how would she
44:20know your mobile telephone number i don't know the only number i gave my number to was did you have sex
44:26with her who no did you have sex with her partner at that time was sat there and i've got i had photos
44:32to back all that up did you have sex with with claire you're right hell no hell no
44:40we've actually done a lie detector question on the other one as well as that so we can clear that up
44:44completely she confuses me because she sits there with a smug look on her face and yet paints you
44:49as this lying cheating toe rag who she should never have been with and yet then sits there with the
44:54same face saying but i'm having sex with him are you going to pass this lie detector yes i know i am
44:59like i told you researchers and the producer i know i'm going to pass this lie detector test let's
45:04do those all-important lie detector results please we asked you three questions each and two of them
45:11were the same questions each okay we asked gareth since you first started your relationship with your
45:17wife claire have you had sexual intercourse with the other woman in question this is just
45:26gareth we asked gareth since you started your relationship with your wife claire have you had
45:29sexual intercourse with the other woman in question he said no
45:34he was telling the truth
45:42then we asked both claire and gareth since gareth has been in a relationship with claire
45:47have you gareth had sexual contact with ex claire he said no she said yes
45:59your husband was lying and she was
46:07then we asked both claire and gareth since gareth has been in a relationship with claire have you
46:11gareth had sexual intercourse with ex claire gareth answered no claire answered yes this test says that
46:19gareth was lying and claire was telling the truth
46:25then we asked claire did you have sexual intercourse with gareth 10 weeks ago she said yes
46:29yes she was telling the truth
46:37i didn't see that one coming
46:46sorry this isn't about me anymore
46:50go on then
46:51and i didn't see
46:54i never had sex with her and i didn't have sex with the other woman that was
46:57actually no no no you didn't have sex with the other woman and the test said you were telling
47:02the truth so before you tell me this is really important to say this to you before you start
47:06questioning the validity of this lie detector you passed the first question you did not have sex
47:11with the other person but this lady my test says was telling the truth and i apologize to you it sounded
47:17fantastical
47:18i thought you were just sending emails to be like a kid in school for heavy ground and through jealousy
47:27you need to know what he's like he cannot be trusted
47:31yeah but you shouldn't have slept with him as well
47:33you shouldn't have slept with him
47:36um you're the lady i feel sorry for what i mean you haven't even looked at him
47:39my whole world's just been completely shattered
47:52so i've contacted the couple since the show and this is what they told me claire says jez we got
47:55back together we're very happy in fact we've got a new baby on the way but i can never forgive him
48:00for cheating on me that's interesting and so is this gareth says jez i thought that i could beat the
48:05lie detector test but it didn't work out like that and my advice to anyone who's cheated is to tell
48:11the truth is it possible to beat this guy well some people like gareth think they can come on the
48:15show and beat the test but i stand 100 behind the results i give and after seven years i'm always
48:20certain when i do a test listen thank you so much for all that you've done over 500 lie detector tests
48:25and delighted to call you our polygraph expert thank you to you thank you to everybody who's been on
48:29the show the moral will be liars will be found out on the jeremy carl lie detector test we'll see you
48:35very soon take care bye-bye for now
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