The Jeremy Kyle Show 8th October 2018
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00:00On today's show...
00:02You're with Wiggy's ex, that's Emma.
00:04Yes.
00:05I'm here for him to stand up and be a dad's son who gives his ad.
00:10How would you sum him up?
00:11A word plus peace...
00:21You don't know after that!
00:23It's not you, is it?
00:25You sat in there being a little...
00:27Sit up!
00:28What's your language?
00:29And you turned round and said no!
00:31How are you?
00:32I'm your friend!
00:33Did I ask you again, Bob?
00:34I don't care!
00:35You've done everything for the kids!
00:36Kylie!
00:37Kylie, maybe!
00:38I've done everything for them kids!
00:41Can you stop me seeing it?
00:43You're a liar!
00:45I'm going liar!
00:47You're the one who dumped your son and took your daughter!
00:50You don't know the answer to it, Debbie!
00:52Shut up!
00:53It's got nothing serious!
00:54It's their kids!
00:55No, it's not!
00:56It's their kids!
00:57I'm not nothing to do!
00:58Do we need a laugh?
00:59Show them!
01:00CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
01:01Hello, my friends.
01:02Good morning and a big, big welcome to the show.
01:06Right, and the first guest today, Brian, is here to confront his wife's ex, Wiggy.
01:11Great name.
01:12As he says, he's a useless deadbeat sperm donor and has done nothing but put women before his kids.
01:27He says that Wiggy's children call him dad and he even plans on adopting them.
01:34He says, basically, today, right, this waste of space is going to know that I'm an amazing father.
01:40Brian's on the Jeremy Kyle Show that way.
01:43CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
01:45How are you?
01:46Not bad.
01:47So, you, Brian, you're with Wiggy's ex, that's Emma.
01:49Yes.
01:50How long have you been with him, her?
01:51Seven years.
01:52Seven years?
01:53Yeah.
01:54It's slightly reading this story this morning.
01:55I was thinking, whoa!
01:56You're here because he's no sort of father.
01:57No, he's not.
01:58Are you here to name and shame him?
01:59What are you here to do?
02:00I'm here for him to stand up and be a dad to them kids his ad, otherwise I want him to sign all the rights over to me to a dad them kids.
02:06And I also want a lie detector test to him because I know he's cheated on her.
02:10Well, this is what I didn't understand when I read this this morning.
02:12You and your missus, Emma, want him to do a lie detector test on the fact that when he was with her, he cheated on her.
02:17That was seven years ago.
02:31Why the hell does it matter?
02:32Because in that seven years he's been with her, he traumatized a woman, so she has got a right to know if he's cheated on her.
02:36I'm not saying that, but surely you could argue that by bringing it back up, then that's going to cause her problems again.
02:42Why wouldn't you just let it go?
02:43You say he's a nasty but a waste of space, cheated on his wife, he's a lanky scruffy tramp, and he stinks and he looks like Shrek.
02:51Yeah.
03:01Have you met him before?
03:02I've met him loads of times.
03:04Yeah?
03:05He thinks he's tall, he thinks he scares people, there's nothing.
03:07You say I've raised his kids on a serious note.
03:10Well, the daughter, I've raised her from being four months old.
03:13She's never asked for anything, he's never paid a penny towards them kids, he's not even been there as a father for her.
03:18So, my team, if it was up to me, you know, he'd have no contact at all, I've done everything.
03:22Why do you think he hasn't done more?
03:23Because you don't, he's happy to go and see his women, meet women what's got kids, and sooner look after their kids than his own kids he's even got.
03:29Has he seen them at all? Has he paid for them? Has he done anything?
03:32He's not paid a penny for none of them. He's seen the daughter probably eight times max.
03:37His son, he had him up till March, and even his own son didn't want to go back to him.
03:42So, you've told us a lot of things, you said he's a benefit sheep.
03:45Yeah, he's told me he's working, but he's also said he's claiming benefits, so why's that work?
03:50Erm...
03:51It's going to go well, isn't it, today? I can see it all happening.
03:57Erm, on a serious note, what I didn't understand, when she and he split, so your Mrs Emma split with Wiggy.
04:05Yes.
04:06They took a child each.
04:07That was an actual parent trap all over again.
04:11I'd just like to say, I think it's just the wrong thing you should do.
04:13I don't think you should split kids up, because the relationship splits up.
04:16I don't see how it works.
04:17So, I want facts here.
04:18Your Mrs had the daughter, he had the son.
04:21Yeah.
04:22In March this year...
04:23Yes.
04:24..your wife partner got full custody. Why?
04:27Yes.
04:28Because Jason was not a very good person.
04:30He thinks more a beer.
04:32You mean Wiggy?
04:33More Wiggy Jason.
04:34Was the child taken off him?
04:37Yeah, I took him off him.
04:38But the court gave full custody to the mother.
04:41Why?
04:42Because of the deadbeat father.
04:44Isn't it true that he was drunk and a fire started in his flat?
04:47Listen, he's drunk, he set fire to his own ass.
04:50Yeah.
04:51He's never really looked after his son, because his son's always been dirty.
04:53His own ex-wife, what's defending him, has even rung us up and told us to fetch off him, because it's neglecting him.
05:00But if that's the case, why is it that the very courts who apparently gave full custody to Emma, your Mrs, are still allowing him unsupervised contact with a child?
05:09If he's a danger to a child or a drunk or somebody that's sex fired to a flat, it's not for me to judge that.
05:14But how come he's allowed near the child, if that's the truth?
05:17Because the court said that he's got to build a bond with these children.
05:20Surely that would be supervised.
05:22Well, I'm going off what the court said.
05:24The court's told him he's got to have his visits.
05:26I just want to find out.
05:27For him to get a bond with them two.
05:28Do you want him to step up or do you want him to step out?
05:29I want him to step up.
05:30If he's not going to step up, then I want him to walk off and have nothing to do with him.
05:33You don't like the guy.
05:34How would you sum him up?
05:36A worthless piece of ****.
05:40Wiggy's on the Jeremy Kyle show that way.
05:51Sit down.
05:52Shut up.
05:53My kids, not yours.
05:54I don't know your day.
05:55You've never been a father with ten kids.
05:56Seriously?
05:57Seriously?
05:58You've been looking up to do the awesome stuff.
06:00It's not you, is it?
06:01Because you've...
06:02Come on, then.
06:03You sat in there being a little **** because you've got your women looking after you.
06:06Sit down.
06:07Sit down.
06:08Like the **** back there.
06:09Oi!
06:10What's your language?
06:13Wiggy.
06:14Don't come trying to make art.
06:15Yes, mate.
06:16What sort of father are you?
06:18I'm a brilliant dad.
06:19When they let me.
06:20But you had the child taken off because you got drunk and your flat was burnt down, mate.
06:23You could have endangered your child's life.
06:24Why would you do that?
06:25No, I had a drink.
06:26I had no kids in my house.
06:28My cooker got up whilst cooking food.
06:31Obviously a fire brigade had come.
06:32It got sorted out.
06:33There was no kids in the house.
06:34But was that why you lost custody?
06:36No, it's not.
06:37Why then?
06:38Because they used my daughter as a weapon.
06:41I was supposed to have a **** for the weekend.
06:44They didn't let me know in time so I couldn't arrange a transport because I don't drive.
06:48You told my team that as far as you're concerned Brian and Emma are brainwashing those children.
06:53You say that this man loves being the centre of attention.
06:56I hate him for what he's doing.
06:58He's a bully and he is the problem.
07:00And also you go further and you say she's not a great mum.
07:03I'm being slagged off left, right and centre but I'm not a bad dad.
07:06Yeah.
07:07Do you pay for your kids?
07:08I do.
07:09Obviously my ex tells me what he needs.
07:11I go out, I get it and I take it round for him.
07:14Do you provide money for those children?
07:16Yes or no?
07:17I've asked them to send me the bank in detail because it's just got sorted through child maintenance
07:21and I'm still waiting for it.
07:22Seven years mate that is.
07:23So you've not paid a penny in seven years.
07:25They haven't had him seven years.
07:27It's only this year.
07:28Never for the girl.
07:29Surely you were paying for the girl.
07:30Obviously I had in my custody.
07:32They had a .
07:33You've gone very quiet.
07:34Makes me laugh.
07:35Just don't use disgusting language.
07:37Because now, in the old time, when this all got sorted out, we paid you .
07:41No you didn't.
07:42Yes we did.
07:43We paid you.
07:44We sent you money and you got money.
07:45When?
07:46When?
07:47When?
07:48This was back to 2013.
07:49So you know I'm right.
07:50You've not paid a penny for climbing.
07:51We've asked you for money for uniforms.
07:53You have not paid a penny.
07:55Last week and I asked you.
07:57We asked you for a legal.
07:58Who are you?
07:59They needed for school.
08:00And you turned round and said no.
08:02Send her the money.
08:03And you'll find it.
08:04For two weeks man.
08:05Who are you?
08:06Sure you are.
08:07I'm a girlfriend.
08:08Did I ask you to get involved?
08:09I don't care.
08:10Fair enough, I'm sharp then.
08:11The fact is, you've got two kids to Emma.
08:13You've never been bothered by because she is not a boy.
08:16Is that right?
08:17That's no problem.
08:18Really?
08:19What about then?
08:20When we went to Lincoln.
08:21You brought them two a pound toy each.
08:22You brought her kids a £30.
08:24Hold on, hold on.
08:25Hold on a minute.
08:26Sorry, now I know.
08:27You're Wiggy's new girlfriend.
08:28What were you saying?
08:29I was a cousin here with a shouting.
08:30They messaged him saying that they needed school uniform for the children.
08:33Yep.
08:34He messaged them back saying send me a list of what you want.
08:36I'll order it from Asda's and we'll get it delivered direct to your door.
08:40You are a damn liar.
08:41Really?
08:42Yes.
08:43Yes.
08:44I am, yes.
08:45There was messages on his phone.
08:46There's nothing.
08:47Get him up then.
08:48Because he has not sent us anything asking what they want, what they need or what.
08:51We asked four times what they needed.
08:53Because you said you're a **** for two days later.
08:56Oh my days.
08:57He texted me sadly when he never turned up to see his kids.
08:59Give him a bank detail.
09:00The train was delayed on Saturday.
09:01He went out on the Friday and bought presents and everything for the kids.
09:04The train got delayed on Saturday.
09:05I phoned you up and said that the train was late.
09:08And you and Emma said that you were not prepared to wait.
09:11Have you done enough?
09:12If they let me, I won't do enough.
09:14Why wouldn't you let him do more?
09:15Because he hadn't done nothing.
09:16He's a waste of meat of a father.
09:18And my other part of this story is apparently did you or did you not cheat on Emma?
09:22But you haven't been with her for seven years.
09:24Why does anybody care?
09:25I know.
09:26With Charlotte.
09:27I didn't even know the woman back then.
09:28Well apparently according to Emma who's coming out after the break, she reckons that you
09:32and Charlotte who aren't together anymore.
09:33But this is an interesting twist of the story.
09:35You got with Charlotte after you and Emma split up.
09:38Emma thinks...
09:39I got with...
09:40Emma thinks...
09:41Emma thinks that you and Charlotte were at it.
09:43But anyway, you say no.
09:44On the room a completely different woman.
09:45Interestingly, if he's such an appalling father, right?
09:47Yeah.
09:48He went with Charlotte, had a baby with Charlotte, stayed for a while with Charlotte.
09:52That didn't work.
09:53She's here saying he's a good dad and you're in the wrong.
09:56How does that work out?
09:57How does that work?
09:58Emma, Charlotte.
09:59We said a lot more after this.
10:00Be quiet.
10:01Back, back, back in three.
10:02Really?
10:03I've done everything for your kids.
10:04What are you doing?
10:05You've done everything for the kids.
10:06I've done everything for the kids.
10:07Kylie.
10:08Kylie maybe.
10:09I've done everything for them kids.
10:11And he stopped me seeing it.
10:13And he...
10:14He says that you stopped him seeing the daughter.
10:17I'm a liar!
10:19I'm going liar!
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11:00Welcome back for the break.
11:02Brian and Wiggy.
11:03Brian came out and he said,
11:04You know what?
11:05I'm with Emma.
11:06I've been with her a long, long time.
11:07Two kids, a boy and a girl from this ex-Wiggy.
11:10He's a waste of space.
11:11He's done nothing.
11:12When they split up, it was parent trap.
11:13Emma had the girl.
11:14He had the boy.
11:15In March this year, because of certain things,
11:17the child, the boy came to live with us.
11:19He doesn't pay.
11:20He doesn't bother.
11:21He doesn't see him.
11:22I am going to adopt these kids if this guy doesn't step up.
11:25Not unless I'm dead.
11:26You can't stop it.
11:27Of course I can.
11:28I can, yeah.
11:29The fact is, you're a deadbeat father.
11:31You're a sperm owner.
11:32That's it.
11:33Come on then.
11:34So what actually have you done for your daughter?
11:35Come on.
11:36In all this time.
11:37You won't let me.
11:38You will not let me.
11:39I have to go through here instead of her mum.
11:41Is Emma your ex?
11:43Is Emma your ex?
11:45Is Emma your ex?
11:46Is that it?
11:47Is that it?
11:48Keep going.
11:49That's what you said every year.
11:50Is Emma your ex?
11:51Emma's on the Jeremy car show.
11:52That way.
12:01You're lying little ****ing.
12:02You know you are.
12:03What is his message then?
12:04I have a school uniform.
12:06Where is it?
12:07Come on.
12:08On my phone.
12:09Show it then.
12:10I'm supposed to finish off.
12:11I've sent you messages saying we need 24 uniforms.
12:14You're a point blank liar.
12:15Really?
12:16I've done everything for your kids.
12:17What have you done?
12:18You've done everything for your kids.
12:19Hey Kylie.
12:20Kylie may be.
12:21Kylie may be.
12:22Not Aidan.
12:23Right then.
12:24Not Aidan.
12:25What you do.
12:26Wiggy.
12:27Why don't you let Emma speak?
12:29Go on then.
12:30Welcome to the show.
12:31Why are you bothered whether he cheated on you seven years ago when you don't want anything
12:34to do with him?
12:35What the hell is this all about?
12:36He's still in love with me.
12:37It's got to be obvious.
12:38You are a rat ****.
12:42Definitely.
12:43You wish.
12:44Are you in love with him?
12:46No.
12:47No, the reason I want to know is cheating because I want to prove to them ****ing there
12:54what a liar is.
12:55Who are those?
12:56Who are those what?
12:57Them ****ing there.
12:58That's Charlotte.
12:59Charlotte is.
13:00I want to prove to everyone that he's a liar.
13:04Oh, shut up, you ****ing there.
13:05If he's such an appalling father, can we just calm down a minute, right?
13:14When you split this parent trap, you have the girl, he has the boy.
13:17How does that benefit your kids?
13:19If he's such an appalling father, shut up, such a lowlife, such a waste of space and I'm
13:24just a referee in this, why didn't you allow him to have your son for five years, six years then?
13:29Why didn't you go, hang on a minute, why didn't you do that?
13:31No, no, no.
13:32Oh, be quiet.
13:33Why didn't you go, I'm the child's mother, I don't trust him, he's a waste of space.
13:36I'm having both my kids.
13:37Why do you let one of your kids with him if he's such a nightmare then?
13:40Listen, how could I take him when internet wouldn't even let me near him?
13:45Which is what he's saying you are doing to his daughter all that time as well.
13:55When we split, I got you a new phone, you was messaging him and sending him the dirty videos,
13:58pictures and everything.
13:59He's not even mad at us, she didn't reel that on.
14:01No.
14:02Who was sending what?
14:03You left, you left, and left Aidan and Kylie in my care for two weeks while you got
14:08You ****ing liar.
14:10You ****ing liar.
14:12And then you are ****ing.
14:14You are lying.
14:16This is about ****ing.
14:18You are ****ing.
14:19I let you see.
14:20Did you send him dirty videos?
14:22No.
14:23You did, didn't you?
14:24Listen, really.
14:25I will send him out.
14:26Excuse me, I'm not talking to you.
14:27She has never sent me no videos.
14:29That was you being a ****ing liar.
14:31That was you being a ****ing liar.
14:33That was you being a ****ing liar.
14:35Your language, you know, most people watching this might actually assume that you're homophobic,
14:39me old son, the language you're using.
14:41Wash your mouth out and shut up because you're, mate, you can't use language either.
14:46Emma, Emma.
14:48You're the one who said in the midst of that, it is about the kids and it is about the kids.
14:52The kids are now with you.
14:53Apparently we can't go too much into March.
14:55Since March, has he had anything to do with...
14:56No.
14:57Why?
14:58I'll shut up.
15:00So, interestingly, the woman that he ended up with when he left you is a girl called Charlotte.
15:04They had a kid, they were happy.
15:05I can't believe what I read.
15:07She's shut up.
15:08I said no.
15:09She's split up with you because you cheated on her and yet she says you're one of the most loyal men she's ever met.
15:14Charlotte's on the Jeremy Carp show that way.
15:15Come on, then.
15:16Come on, then.
15:17Let's see.
15:18Come on.
15:19You're such a great mum.
15:20I raised your son for three years.
15:21Come on, then.
15:22You're such a great mum.
15:23I raised your son for three years.
15:24Come on, then.
15:25Come on, then.
15:26You're such a great mum.
15:27I raised your son for three years.
15:28He come back...
15:29So, I wasn't raising ****, then.
15:30While you were doing...
15:31I said you weren't raising ****, then.
15:32I didn't even say you weren't raising ****.
15:33I didn't even say thank you to you.
15:34No, you didn't.
15:35You didn't give me abuse.
15:36You both of you told me to throw myself down the stairs when I was pregnant with ****.
15:39Poor Sadie.
15:40Yes, you did.
15:41Poor Sadie.
15:42Yes, you did.
15:43Messages on his phone from recently after you got **** back, calling our son who's disabled
15:48a ****.
15:49Come on.
15:50You called my room.
15:51He's a ****.
15:52No, I did not.
15:53He's got a message.
15:54I'm the **** in the back.
15:55I did not, thank you very much.
15:56Yes, you did.
15:57When did I say this?
15:58Please, give me a turn today.
15:59He's got a message on the phone.
16:00You call him my son.
16:01Can I ask you a question?
16:02Welcome to the show.
16:03Can you seriously stop dominating this or I'll get you off the stage?
16:06He's a control freak.
16:07He can't help it.
16:08Pretty weird for somebody who was with somebody, got cheated on, is no longer with him, to say
16:13he's a very good man.
16:14Is he a good father?
16:15He's a good dad.
16:16Don't get me wrong.
16:17It happened.
16:18That's it.
16:19That was to do with us, not to do with our kids.
16:21Well, our son.
16:22And he's a brilliant dad to him.
16:23So what's your view of the Emma situation?
16:24I find it slightly strange the kids were split up.
16:26I worry about the fact, I want to say to you.
16:28Can I speak?
16:29Sorry.
16:30That he was allowed to have this kid for six, seven years if he was such an appalling man
16:33and did such a good job.
16:34We know because we checked that for three years you played mum to that child.
16:37I repeat to you and you did not even answer me.
16:39Any mother worth their sort, if they thought the dad was what you think he is, would have
16:43taken both of those children and looked after them and themselves.
16:46But you are allowed.
16:47No, I haven't finished.
16:48You have a police escort.
16:49You have to do it.
16:50I'm a liar.
16:51I'm going liar.
16:52I got told that Stephen was my dad.
16:53I got told that he went to the shop I would hate and move in there.
16:55What does today mean?
16:56Just what answers, I'm just like, this eight years my dad.
16:58If this is the answer she has wanted for 32 years, then that's putting your family
17:15back together, isn't it?
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