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00:00I'm Adam Aji, and with me in this episode, we have two
00:04sharp women, Syakira and Sabrina
00:08Hello
00:09The owner of a handbag business called Brick
00:12People are mad at us because we launched it
00:14and the next day we can't buy it because it's out of stock
00:16Is that your strategy?
00:19No, it's sold out
00:20It's not a marketing gimmick whatsoever
00:22Our Brick records, we achieved 2 million ringgit sales
00:26in 20 minutes
00:27Congratulations
00:28Alhamdulillah
00:36The English proverb says that money makes the world go round
00:40In an age where everyone needs money, it's up to us
00:45what we want to do for a living
00:48Some work, and some do business
00:52Assalamualaikum and good health to the listeners of Duit Tepi
00:56I'm Adam Aji, and with me in this episode, we have two
01:01sharp women, businesswomen
01:06Girl power
01:08We have Syakira and Sabrina
01:12Hello
01:12The owner of a handbag business called Brick
01:17Our handbag, Brick, is beautiful
01:20Welcome to our Duit Tepi podcast today
01:23How are you guys feeling?
01:24Nervous
01:26This is our first podcast
01:28So if we look like we're having fun, just ignore it
01:33It's okay, let's just relax
01:35So I will ask you a few questions
01:36You guys can answer whatever you want to share with us
01:40We just go with it, okay?
01:41On
01:42Alright, so we want to ice break first
01:45We want to get to know our businesswomen first
01:49So, introduce yourself
01:51Your background
01:54How did you start your business, Brick?
01:58Beautiful handbag, so let's start with you first
02:00Okay, hi guys, my name is Sabrina
02:02I'm the co-founder of Brick
02:05If you don't know, Brick is a local handbag brand
02:09Okay, and this is my sister
02:12Syakira
02:14I'm also the co-founder
02:16We founded together
02:21Basically, Brick is a local brand that was just established last year
02:27Around August
02:28Fun fact, when we came up with the idea of Brick
02:32I was pregnant
02:34So I came
02:35I was pregnant
02:37You were pregnant?
02:39Yes, she was like, what?
02:40Okay, I sold it
02:42Then, alhamdulillah, after I gave birth
02:46Right after that, we posted our...
02:48Sorry, I'm nervous
02:50Move your hand a little
02:54Right after I gave birth
02:56We posted our first ever social media post
02:59Like, literally
03:015 minutes after I woke up
03:03Ah, post!
03:04On the hospital bed, right?
03:05Yes
03:06On the hospital bed, first post
03:08Yes, so this is like a child's blessing
03:10Alhamdulillah
03:12So, for Brick, a unique name
03:14A company that's only been around for a year
03:16Okay, only been around for a year
03:18So, the idea, the starting point
03:22You guys were like, okay, we're excited
03:24We want to start a business
03:26We want to make a handbag business, Brick
03:28So, how did it happen?
03:30It started when we
03:32We were hanging out at a fish shop
03:34Fish, what?
03:36Fried fish?
03:38We were hanging out with my cousins
03:40All of them
03:42Then, my cousin
03:44Started with the idea
03:46We wanted to start a family business
03:48Because we've always wanted to
03:50Sell something, but we never
03:52Thought about what to sell
03:54Because I feel like now, our local brands
03:56Terrible
03:58Because they sell a lot of things
04:00And the things they produce
04:02Nowadays are very international
04:04That's right
04:06So, what we
04:08After a lot of brainstorming, we thought
04:10Okay, why don't
04:12We try out handbags
04:14Because the local scene
04:16It's already terrific
04:18We have a lot of local brands like Nazifi
04:20We look up to them
04:22So
04:24What our business
04:26Plan was, okay, we had a passion
04:28For handbags
04:30For example, this handbag
04:32We like the strap, but we don't like
04:34The flap, the bag
04:36We like the strap
04:38But we don't like the chain
04:40So, why don't
04:42We put together
04:44A handbag that I feel like
04:46Everything that we love in a bag
04:48And to make it
04:50Different from other players
04:52We play with
04:54Material
04:56That's what differentiates us from other brands
04:58Because now in Malaysia
05:00We have a lot of handbags
05:02Like you mentioned earlier, Nazifi
05:04And now we have a lot of demographics
05:06People like certain criteria
05:08You mentioned
05:11You don't like the handle
05:13So, if you guys want to say
05:15To our listeners
05:17What differentiates
05:19Brick's handbags
05:21From other local brands
05:23In Malaysia
05:25I feel
05:27It's more
05:29On the community that we built
05:31I feel like Brick
05:33Has its own community
05:35I feel like
05:37Women don't like to wear
05:39The same clothes
05:41For example, if a woman wears the same clothes
05:43She'll run and pee in the toilet
05:45She doesn't want to
05:47But
05:49When we started off with Brick
05:51When you get this handbag
05:53It's like
05:55We share the same thing
05:57Then they bond over it
05:59I heard from one of our followers
06:01He said that he once bumped into this girl
06:03He didn't know her in public
06:05Then he was like
06:07They can click
06:09And say
06:11When did you buy this?
06:13Is it green inside?
06:15Mine is not green
06:17They clicked
06:19It's not like a competition
06:21They're together
06:23Which I really love
06:25It's hard to get that community
06:27Feel
06:29Another fun fact
06:31When we first released
06:33Our first line of bags
06:35The inner
06:37The lining
06:39It's not the color of the bag
06:41It's light green
06:43That's the first line of our production
06:45So whoever has
06:47The green lining
06:49They're like OG
06:51So is the green lining
06:53Still there?
06:55Or did you change it?
06:57It's still there
06:59It's one of the OG
07:01The newly restocked
07:03So we know
07:05I understand
07:07You guys have 4 handbags
07:09Chroma
07:11Petit Chroma
07:13The tote bag
07:15And also the denim
07:17Among the 4
07:19Which one
07:21Is the most personal?
07:23Like
07:25I gotta get this bag
07:27This is me
07:29I will carry the most
07:31I like the macchiato color
07:33I really love that color
07:35And I like upsized
07:37Because I like to bring a lot of things
07:39Like Chroma
07:41I used to be able to bring Chroma
07:43Now I can't
07:45I bring fan
07:47So I think upsized is my favorite
07:49For me
07:51I like vibrant colors
07:53Like my sister
07:55She's more to earthy
07:57Tones, brown, nude
08:00But for me, I like bright blue
08:02From afar
08:04Sabrina is here
08:06If possible
08:08Bright red, blue
08:10Electric blue
08:12Because it elevates your outfit
08:14But I see the back
08:16Especially the Chroma
08:18This is Chroma, right?
08:20This is upsized
08:22The colors are really bright
08:24Like you guys said
08:26It's giving Y2K
08:28So that's the inspiration you guys going for?
08:30Yes
08:32That's interesting
08:34Because
08:36If you go back to your mom's car
08:38Your mom's closet
08:40There's a glossy bag
08:42So we decided to bring back
08:44That Y2K retro feel
08:46Because
08:48We believe the world is just a circle
08:50Everything goes around
08:52So fashion trends also go around
08:54Whatever our mom used to wear
08:56We wear it now
08:58It's a circle of fashion
09:00So in the 4 bags
09:02You guys have bags that are beautiful
09:04And you have followers
09:06That will buy and follow your updates
09:08Everyday
09:10Brick's updates
09:12Do you have customers that say
09:14This is the bag that we like the most
09:16You guys might do some research
09:18Which bag is the most sought after
09:20This is our
09:22Specialty
09:24The color is lilac
09:28I feel like denim
09:30Denim
09:32People are crazy about denim
09:34And then last is
09:36Macchiato
09:38I think people who have macchiato
09:40They'll be like, I have it, you don't
09:42Serious
09:44Because every time we launch
09:46Macchiato's mission is
09:48Less than 5 minutes
09:50So I think maybe it's because
09:52It's a timeless color
09:54And you can rock with any outfit
09:56So I think that's why they go for
09:58That safe color
10:00I see
10:02For Brick
10:04Brick has been in our country for a year
10:06You guys also did shipping
10:08Internationally as well
10:10I understand you guys shipped to Singapore
10:12Shipped to Indonesia as well
10:14Do you have
10:16Plans to open
10:18A physical store
10:20Or do you guys already have
10:22A physical store overseas
10:24Future planning
10:26Maybe if it's 5 years down the road
10:28We don't know where we'll be
10:30God willing, maybe we'll open a store
10:32When we're
10:34Stable
10:36But for now, we want to focus on
10:38Strengthening our
10:40Footing here
10:42Because I feel like we still have
10:44Problems, we can't produce a lot
10:46Because we
10:48Tend to forget that we're still a small business
10:50So
10:52All small business
10:54The main problem is capital
10:56So I feel like
10:58We have to build up slowly
11:00Because if we're fast, where are we going?
11:02Relax!
11:04But the expansion plan to Indonesia
11:06Is one of our strategies
11:08To boost our production
11:10So when there's more demand
11:12We can produce more
11:14So
11:17Yeah, we hope
11:19Our customers can support us more
11:21And pray that we can produce more
11:23So people don't have to struggle
11:25We don't like
11:27This culture of battle
11:29People don't want to sell out
11:31They don't want to sell out fast
11:33They don't want to sell out fast
11:35But so far, last night's lunch was okay, right?
11:37Alhamdulillah, people can still buy
11:39Today, which is good
11:41Because usually
11:43Our online lunch
11:45People scold us because
11:47The next day we can't buy
11:49That's what I'm trying to point out
11:51For Whiteside Bricks, sold out
11:53Sold out
11:55We want to correct
11:57Is that your strategy?
11:59Or is it sold out?
12:01No, it is sold out
12:03It's not a marketing gimmick whatsoever
12:05We wouldn't do that to you guys
12:07We want you guys to have the bag
12:09Because like I said
12:11Capital is our problem
12:13But right now, we can
12:15Roll that money
12:17Inshallah, we can produce more and more
12:19Because every time we do an online lunch
12:21We restock, it will be more than the previous one
12:25But it's not a gimmick
12:31Last night, yesterday
12:33You guys did an online drop
12:37Please tell us more about the online drop
12:39How do you guys feel about that?
12:41Alhamdulillah, we launched
12:43Last night was
12:45Can be considered
12:47Very smooth based on our customer's feedback
12:49Because previously
12:51We had issues
12:53You guys need to understand, we are still learning
12:55To handle this business
12:57We learn from our hiccups
12:59From our mistakes
13:01Alhamdulillah, last night went well
13:03We managed to hit our brick record
13:05Which was
13:07We achieved 2 million ringgit sale
13:09In 20 minutes
13:11Congratulations!
13:13Alhamdulillah
13:15We are really thankful
13:17Because without our customer's support
13:19We can't do this
13:21We can't be where we are today
13:23If it's not because of our customers
13:25And actually brick is quite famous
13:27I have a friend who uses brick
13:29When I did a research for brick
13:31I noticed that my friend had a bag
13:33Because brick has a vibrant color
13:35Like you mentioned, it's very bright
13:37And when I go closer
13:39I noticed the brick word
13:41And when I do the podcast
13:43Oh wait, I'm going to interview
13:45The founder of brick
13:47And here we are
13:49Also I want to ask
13:51Since venturing to Indonesia
13:53It's something new
13:55You guys launched there
13:57What do you guys feel about it?
13:59To start brick this time
14:01In Indonesia
14:03Sometimes I feel like I don't believe
14:06That we managed to launch
14:08In Jakarta
14:10But
14:12To be honest
14:14I think it's a bit hard
14:16To penetrate the Indonesian market
14:18Because their local brands are very strong
14:20The people in Indonesia
14:22Are very supportive of their local brands
14:24So I think
14:26We had the upper hand
14:28To expand our business
14:30Because we have business partners
14:32In Indonesia
14:34So we just send our stock
14:36To test the market
14:38To see how they
14:40Accept our products
14:42Because it can be
14:44Tricky
14:46Because Malaysia and Indonesia
14:48Are low paid
14:50But I love my Indonesian girls
14:52But yeah, inshallah
14:54If
14:56With the influencer
14:58Marketing that we do there
15:00If it's possible
15:02We can build our brick community
15:04There
15:06But so far, Alhamdulillah
15:08I think they are very accepting
15:10Of our products
15:12They feel like we are so rich
15:14Don't you say it
15:16Don't you say it girl
15:18Buy it
15:20We also want to share
15:22To our listeners
15:24This is something that
15:26Just came to my mind
15:28It's not easy to run a business
15:30Some people just want to work
15:32Some prefer 9 to 5
15:34But to start a business
15:36You can think about it
15:38But to run one, it takes a lot of struggles
15:40It's not easy
15:42Even I myself
15:44Maybe I should start a business
15:46But still
15:48I don't know where to start
15:50Maybe to sustain the business
15:52It's one of the most difficult part
15:54To sustain the business
15:56So my question to the both of you
15:58To run this business
16:00If you could give me
16:02One struggle
16:04That you guys think
16:06It's worth it
16:08What will it be
16:10What will it be
16:12Struggle that
16:14We face the most
16:16I think it's QC
16:18Quality checks for the bags
16:20And the amount of bags that we have to
16:22QC
16:24Astagfirullahalazim
16:26MashaAllah
16:28It's not easy
16:30Some people say we have to restock 10 bags
16:32It's not 10
16:34Don't say that
16:36It hurts
16:38I think it's QC
16:40We have to check a lot
16:42But we need to do it
16:44Because it's for our customers
16:46For our
16:48When the product
16:50Reaches our customers
16:52We want them to be happy with the quality
16:55Satisfied
16:57The best
16:59What they paid for
17:01That's what they get
17:03We want to make sure
17:05I think you ask all the brands out there
17:07QC is one of the most
17:09Tedious thing to do
17:11When you want to sell
17:13But when you get back customer feedback
17:15It's all worth it
17:17The result of our QC team
17:19It's worth it
17:21Because you get positive word of mouth
17:23It's true
17:25But there's also
17:27When we ship products
17:29There's a problem
17:31Dented boxes
17:33It's hard to avoid
17:35Even though we repackaged it many times
17:37If you see how they handle the parcel
17:39It's scary
17:41But we don't blame them
17:43We don't blame them
17:45Because it's not just our parcel
17:47They send it daily
17:49So we will try and improve
17:51Our box
17:53But
17:55Alhamdulillah for now
17:57The feedback that we get on our bags
17:59Is good
18:01Alhamdulillah so worth it
18:03It's not something easy
18:05It's not
18:07From A to Z
18:09We have to make sure
18:11We wipe the bags
18:13The bags
18:15One by one
18:17The dedication
18:19Is this defect?
18:21No, we forgot to wipe it
18:23If you want to run
18:25This is not easy
18:27I actually like bags
18:29I have several bags at home
18:31But I bring my handbag
18:33Sometimes
18:35For me as a guy
18:37I personally don't feel anything wrong
18:39To bring my handbag
18:41Because it's easy to put things in
18:43But when I look at Brick
18:45Do you guys think
18:47Brick unisex?
18:49Or specifically for women
18:51Honestly
18:53I think
18:55I've seen a lot of
18:57Influences like Asfah Harry
18:59He went to concert 21
19:01This is Brick
19:03This is Brick
19:05With a sling
19:07It comes with a long strap
19:09It looks very neat
19:11It elevates his outfit
19:13Even though he wears T-shirt and pants
19:15It's like
19:17Beautiful
19:19So I think
19:21I think Petit Chroma is
19:23The most unisex
19:25Universal
19:27I think in the future
19:29We want to start venturing
19:31Into male bags
19:33We have to do some research
19:35Because we get a lot of messages
19:37From husband and wife
19:39Who help to buy
19:41I always buy for my wife
19:44I always buy for my husband
19:46So noted
19:48I think
19:50Specifically for men
19:52For Brick
19:54It's unisex
19:56Anyone can wear
19:58If we purchase one Brick
20:00What comes inside?
20:02Do we get extra straps
20:04Some people
20:06Their marketing
20:08They put shawls
20:10Or extra straps
20:12Do you guys add something different?
20:14Is there any?
20:16Our packaging
20:18Comes with a box
20:20And we have a thank you card
20:22Customizable
20:24You can put your name
20:26Like hello, blank
20:28For your girlfriend
20:30I feel like our
20:32Packaging stand out
20:34Because
20:36I think
20:38The positive word of mouth
20:40When people
20:42Unbox our bags
20:44It's a very hard box
20:46That we create
20:48To protect the bag from chemicals
20:50Because if we buy a bag
20:52From an e-commerce platform
20:54It will be scratched
20:56Sometimes it will be smudged
20:58It won't be a bag anymore
21:00It will be something else
21:04We invest a little
21:06In a hard box
21:08So it will be protected
21:10But it's still aesthetic
21:12When we create a dust bag
21:14We keep it
21:16We don't throw it away
21:18We don't throw it away
21:20We keep it in a dust bag
21:22Care for the bag
21:24Love that response
21:26Now
21:28We want to see
21:30Our beautiful bag
21:32Okay
21:34Now
21:36This bag is
21:38The up-size
21:40Up-size chroma
21:42The material is very
21:44Shiny
21:46What material is this?
21:48It's PU leather
21:50PU leather
21:52Glossy
21:54If a customer
21:56Want to buy
21:58This bag for his girlfriend
22:00Or for my wife
22:02If I want to keep it for a long time
22:04Is it possible?
22:06We haven't prepared it yet
22:08But it can be divided
22:10Thank you for the idea
22:12We don't have an idea
22:14It can be divided
22:16So
22:18Usually
22:20You put lanyards
22:22To make it yours
22:24To personalize
22:26Any other
22:28To the customer
22:30To make it more to themselves
22:32Maybe you guys sell keychains
22:34Or mufflers
22:36Or something to wrap
22:38Is there anything you guys offer
22:40In the future planning
22:42For our denim series
22:44We give a special rubber keychain
22:46That comes with the bag
22:48Because we realize
22:50When we sell this
22:52It comes with a paper keychain
22:54For branding
22:57When we walk in public
22:59They see it
23:01They use the paper keychain
23:03So sweet
23:05So when we launch
23:07The denim series
23:09We want to do a keychain
23:11So it can last longer
23:13So that's the
23:15Difference
23:17For the other one
23:19Size difference
23:21This one is
23:23Small
23:25So these are the sizes
23:27This one is bright red
23:29This one is
23:31Sangria
23:33This one is
23:35Last night
23:37This one is the new one
23:39So these are the size difference
23:41This one is red
23:43Both are red but a different shade
23:45Different shade
23:47This one is red
23:49This one is purple
23:51Very very beautiful
23:54Thank you
23:56Break
23:58You guys have
24:00Usually for marketing
24:02We have collabs
24:04With some brands
24:06Collabs with this brand
24:08Or this one celebrity
24:10For break
24:12Are there collaborations
24:14That are still ongoing
24:16Or maybe in the future
24:18We as of now
24:20We haven't collabs with any brands
24:22For now
24:24Because we want to strategize
24:26Because we are not
24:28Scared
24:30We are not ready to collaborate
24:32But we are definitely open to collaborate
24:34With other brands in the future
24:36Because it needs a lot of planning
24:38So we have to plan
24:40So maybe next year
24:42We have to lay out our plans
24:44What do we want to do
24:46Who do we want to collaborate with
24:48We have to plan and discuss
24:51We have to plan for 2025
24:53So inshallah
24:55Maybe next year
24:57There will be a collaboration
24:59Guests will never know
25:01Stay tuned
25:03We will know
25:05What the future holds
25:07For backbreak
25:09Is there any target
25:11Audience
25:13Like I said earlier
25:15You guys have influence Y2K
25:17And you guys have influence Y2K
25:19Are there specific people
25:21That you guys target
25:23For the university students
25:25Or for the 20s to 30s
25:27Or anyone can wear
25:29Is there a specific target
25:31Audience
25:33I feel like anyone can wear
25:35Because
25:37Even our moms can wear
25:39So anyone can wear
25:41Even teenagers
25:43Like my nieces
25:45They can wear this
25:48My mom can wear
25:50My grandma can wear
25:52It's a secret
25:54True
25:56I feel like they said
25:58It reminds them of their old bags
26:00So they feel young
26:02Using our bags
26:04So if anyone
26:06Wants a backbreak
26:08You can go to Serbu
26:10Website Break
26:12Ask your parents to buy a backbreak
26:14For you to bring to school
26:17For you to bring to university
26:19To make a beautiful break
26:21Is there a seasonal break
26:23Like break for raya
26:25Or break for christmas
26:27Is there a plan
26:29For it
26:31Yes
26:33Our last launch
26:35For this year
26:37Give us a nap
26:39Kim K's mom
26:41Is working hard
26:43We work harder
26:45For next year
26:47We have another drop
26:49Maybe
26:51New material
26:53Write that down
26:55Because we want to expand
26:57Our target audience
26:59Maybe some people like our shape break
27:01But don't like the material
27:03Glossy, maybe less
27:05So maybe we want to release another material
27:07Who knows
27:09Alright
27:11Backbreak
27:14We are in the market
27:16From what I can notice
27:18You guys are well aware
27:20We stick to one branding
27:22Maybe they have a preference
27:24Maybe they have been using that brand for a long time
27:26When we are comfortable
27:28I can speak for myself
27:30I am comfortable with this brand
27:32I want to stick with that
27:34So how
27:36Your planning
27:38Or maybe the ideas you guys approach
27:40To give break
27:42I want to make a switch
27:44I want to try
27:46What's that one thing
27:48That you guys put in your branding
27:50Or marketing
27:52Or the product itself
27:54I think
27:56What makes people interested
27:58Is the color
28:00So when they see
28:02Let's say they buy black
28:04They see the girl wearing green
28:06They have to buy green
28:08I think
28:11Which is so cute
28:13Cute
28:15You buy to collect
28:17Colors
28:19According to your outfit
28:21So I think
28:23Maybe they are happy with
28:25The quality they get
28:27So maybe that's why
28:29When they buy one
28:31I am satisfied with the quality
28:33Let's try with another one
28:35Every time they see
28:37They buy
28:39Like wow
28:41My sixth brick
28:43We just use a sample
28:45It's okay
28:47Do you have anything to add?
28:49No
28:51It's okay
28:53If we have customers
28:55Because this brick is already on social media
28:57People have seen it
28:59You guys have made an event to promote
29:01If there are customers
29:03Let's say from South Korea
29:05If there are brothers and sisters
29:08So through online
29:10Or maybe is there any other way
29:12That they can purchase black brick
29:14If they want to buy
29:16They have to come to Malaysia
29:18Or Indonesia
29:20Because we haven't
29:22Put it in any stores
29:24We haven't
29:26Explored that
29:28Because we want to strengthen
29:30Our online presence
29:32Because we are new
29:34We are babies
29:36So you guys are sisters
29:38Yes
29:40I read that
29:42Each of you guys
29:44Have your own aesthetic
29:46So from Shakira and Sabrina
29:48What is
29:50One thing or anything
29:52From you guys
29:54That is unique
29:56That you guys promote
29:58In making black brick
30:00Is your aesthetic wise
30:02Which is different between both of you
30:05When we started with our first launch
30:07We started with 5 or 6 bags
30:096 colors
30:11Same product line
30:13The Chroma
30:15So we made 3 colors of me
30:173 colors of her
30:19So my fashion style is more
30:21Vibrant, more colors
30:23I like weird things
30:25Shakira is more
30:27Demure
30:29She is more nude
30:31Yes, earthy colors
30:34I like neutral colors
30:36Because my wardrobe is mostly black, white, brown
30:38So that is your personality
30:40You like neutral colors
30:42I am messy
30:44I am vibrant
30:46So neutral people are vibrant
30:48So our first line
30:503 vibrant colors
30:52Green, blue, pink
30:54And 3 nude colors
30:56Black, off-white
30:58And brown
31:00So that represents us
31:02Okay, I think I have asked
31:04Your guys
31:06Upcoming launching
31:08Maybe
31:10Any other planning for the future
31:12For brick
31:14Maybe another line
31:16You guys have 4, maybe you want to add 4
31:18Maybe you want to add 5
31:20Maybe branch to clothing line
31:22Who knows
31:24Anything you guys want to share
31:26Maybe
31:28We are looking into expanding
31:31Because I think
31:33We want to
31:35Because we have done research
31:37And our target audience is still in university
31:39So maybe they cannot afford
31:41A bag that is above their budget
31:43So we think
31:45Maybe we should
31:47Launch something
31:49That people can
31:51It is more pocket friendly
31:53For students
31:55So what do you guys think?
31:57Comment below
31:59Let them know
32:01We are working on it
32:03So that brick is for everyone
32:05Any advice?
32:07Any perspective?
32:09Or maybe
32:11Anything you guys want to share
32:13To future business women
32:15Or business owners
32:17In the future
32:19Before they start
32:21The business
32:23Because you guys have mentioned
32:25It is not easy
32:28And to sustain
32:30It is even more than that
32:32What do you guys want to share?
32:34Let's start with Syakira
32:36She has mentioned to me
32:38I love it
32:40When I was in school
32:42The sisters
32:44I was always the one hiding
32:46She is an extrovert
32:48I am an introvert
32:50For me
32:52I am an introvert
32:54If you see me on social media
32:56I am not like that in real life
32:58Unless I am really comfortable with you
33:00But I feel like
33:02Sometimes
33:04You have to get out of your shell
33:06Because until when you want to be
33:08In your bubble
33:10I think
33:12PKP
33:14That makes my social skills
33:16Decrease
33:18It will not take me anywhere
33:20I have to go out
33:22To meet people
33:25To build more connections
33:27With people
33:29This podcast
33:31I did not want to agree to
33:33Because I am really shy
33:35I am such a camera shy person
33:37I am the total opposite of Brina
33:39She is like
33:41All girls can do it
33:43I can't
33:45But I am trying
33:47You have to sometimes
33:49Get out of your bubble
33:51Try something new
33:54Okay
33:56Listen to me
33:58For me
34:00I feel like
34:02I want to get rid of the perception of local brands
34:04I don't like it when people say that
34:06Why? What's wrong with being a local brand?
34:08It becomes a stigma
34:10Like people say
34:12I want that one instead of local
34:14It's weird
34:16Why can't we want
34:18What makes us different
34:20From international brands
34:22We should build our
34:24Local businesses
34:26And local industries
34:28Yes, build the economy
34:30Because when do we want local brands?
34:32Support people in Malaysia
34:34Yes, because you are helping the economy
34:36So my advice would be
34:38To the business owners out there
34:40Or people who want to start a business
34:42To just go for it
34:44Trust your passion
34:46Because when we want to start
34:48We are afraid
34:51That we might not be able to sell our products
34:53But you have to have
34:55The right planning
34:57Do research on your target audience
34:59Look out for
35:01Market gaps
35:03Understand what's missing
35:05What's not in the market
35:07So when you have that
35:09It's easy for you
35:11To penetrate the market
35:13When you understand properly
35:15What the market needs
35:17So don't be afraid
35:19I want to touch on the problem
35:21Of not supporting local brands
35:23You guys can spend thousands
35:25Of ringgit on other brands
35:27You support foreign brands
35:29But our products
35:31Our businessmen from our own country
35:33We push them aside
35:35We want to support local brands
35:37But what's the action?
35:39You don't give in
35:41I think
35:43That needs to go
35:45You have to start supporting
35:48If not, we'll be like
35:50A stagnant
35:52We can do it
35:54And it won't happen
35:56If you don't help us
35:58Local brands have quality
36:00We have quality
36:02Like them
36:04It's not that hard
36:06To make sure you guys get the best product
36:08So support local brands
36:10So can PSA
36:12Thank you so much
36:14We are Sahaja
36:16With Shakira and Sabrina
36:18The founders of
36:20Brick
36:22Thank you
36:24Thank you for coming
36:26Thank you so much to all listeners
36:28We want to say
36:30That you can watch her TikTok
36:32She's scary
36:34We want to promote her
36:36Before I came here
36:38When they briefed us
36:40You will be
36:42Hosted
36:45She's a TikToker
36:47I know this girl
36:53Thank you for making us feel very comfortable
36:55Thank you so much
36:57Appreciate it very much
36:59Thank you so much for being
37:01You guys are very vibrant
37:03Sometimes we say
37:05People are jealous
37:07Am I jealous?
37:09No, it's okay
37:11Thank you so much
37:13Thank you so much
37:15Thank you for having us
37:17Yes, bye