Minggu ke-3, semestinya lebih rancak Sembang Atas Dulang Bersama Ceddy, sebab ada Sarancak dan Nell Hanan. Ada je benda yang nak dibahankan. Ada je gosip dan stori nak dikongsi. Semestinya ada Spritzer yang diestrak dari bawah tanah daripada sumber air semulajadi yang tulen dan kaya dengan mineral dan silika. Hidratkan diri anda dengan Spritzer.
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00:00 Sembang Atas Dulang with Sedi
00:03 Hi, welcome to Sembang Atas Dulang Season 2 podcast with me, Sedi
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00:21 Okay, on this glorious day, why are you laughing?
00:24 No, I'm very sincere, Spritzer!
00:26 Spritzer!
00:27 Let's give a little energy, yes
00:29 Okay, so on this glorious day, I have a guest
00:33 who I think is very prominent in the industry
00:37 because they are the number one podcaster in Malaysia
00:42 So I have Nell and Saranja
00:46 Sorry, Saranja
00:48 Sorry, because your name is Ranja
00:50 I should have trademarked that
00:51 so that every time you see, you have to buy your ice
00:53 Luckily, you didn't trademark it, luckily
00:56 Okay, so do you prefer Saranja or Sara?
00:59 Sara, of course, very easy
01:00 Sara, Nell, from Talk To You Later
01:03 Yes
01:04 So, you're the number one podcaster, right?
01:06 Yes, but now I have to cut it off
01:07 From who?
01:08 From KJ
01:09 I thought it was me
01:10 Sedih, sedih KJ
01:11 How dare you, KJ
01:13 KJ, why do you want to steal the title?
01:15 Because if they are not number one
01:17 then I'm supposed to be number two, now I'm number three
01:19 Because of KJ, who just joined the podcast industry
01:25 suddenly he became number one, KJ, you have to climb from below
01:28 Yes, you have to clean everything
01:30 Okay, so before we talk about all the things important
01:33 we usually call it "Sembang atas Dulang"
01:36 So, on this delivery rope, we have some kueh
01:41 This one is a very kueh Chinese themed
01:44 You already know this one is a mooncake
01:48 But why is it black?
01:49 This one is actually a chakol
01:52 Oh, chakol
01:53 I don't know why mooncake has chakol version
01:56 Did you make it yourself?
01:57 No, I just made it
01:59 That's why it's black
02:00 It's not important, it's halal
02:03 Very the netizen
02:06 Very the netizen asked
02:09 I represent the netizen, I have a comment
02:12 You always get it
02:13 You always get it, right?
02:15 So you have to bring back the trauma for me
02:19 No, no, Sedih
02:20 I came here to see your smile every time you eat
02:23 especially during the Maghrib prayer
02:25 Oh, that's why
02:27 Okay, it's okay, next year I will do it again
02:29 Okay, try it, it's delicious
02:30 Before we talk, so you don't have to chew and say
02:33 You try first
02:34 Don't forget to drink water, drink your spritzer along with your cake
02:39 Just eat it, use your hands
02:41 Why is it so hard?
02:42 Share it
02:43 Share it
02:44 Should we share it?
02:47 If you don't want to make halal content
02:54 Okay?
02:55 Not bad actually
02:57 What is that?
02:59 It's like speechless
03:00 But the flour is more
03:02 Are you a reviewer or am I a reviewer?
03:06 Because women who like to cook
03:08 It's a little funny
03:11 A little funny?
03:12 Fail, sun cake fail
03:14 Okay, so we want to talk about your journey
03:17 How did you become the number one podcaster in Malaysia?
03:21 Are you laughing because you self-proclaimed or what?
03:23 No, I didn't self-proclaim
03:25 There's a start right?
03:26 As a new podcaster in the industry
03:32 I want to learn a little from you all
03:34 So tell us how you
03:36 Why?
03:38 We have to open our hearts today
03:40 You're like a household name
03:41 I'm a household name for food
03:45 So people still can't accept that I'm a podcaster
03:49 You're a podcaster, you also make food like this
03:51 How are you going to escape from the image of food?
03:53 That's why
03:54 The producer also said that there's a delivery here
03:58 So how did it all start?
04:00 Who wants to start?
04:01 Mel
04:02 So actually
04:03 We have four podcasters
04:06 Three of us are media practitioners
04:09 So of course we are used to producing content for mainstream media
04:13 So we realize that when we do something that is mainstream
04:15 There are limitations
04:17 Or maybe there are things that we can't do creatively
04:20 So we want to explore more
04:22 Compliance
04:23 And one more thing
04:25 As a content creator, you know that we're in the digital age
04:29 For you to grow as a media practitioner or content creator
04:34 You have to follow the trend
04:36 So that's why we decided to do a podcast
04:38 Because
04:39 One is
04:40 Rather than doing a podcast or making content
04:42 It's also about finding our voice
04:45 Because, like Sarah, you know her
04:47 She's been a host for a while
04:48 But I'm actually a backstreet person
04:50 Before podcast, I couldn't talk like this
04:52 Because I'm the one who makes content in the back
04:54 I'm the writer
04:55 I'm not the one who talks
04:57 It's very awkward
04:58 I can't
04:59 But because
05:00 That's why I said
05:01 We want to find our voice
05:03 And own our voice
05:04 Because as a content creator
05:06 I don't know if you agree or not
05:08 If you don't take credit of your own work
05:10 Someone else will
05:11 Is that right?
05:12 That's right
05:13 There are people who
05:15 What do you call that?
05:16 They will steal your credit
05:19 So the easiest way is
05:21 You have to have your own product
05:23 And you have to appear as a face
05:25 That's it
05:26 So how we get together?
05:27 We're old friends
05:28 We did art, theatre together
05:31 So it's quite easy to get together
05:33 Because we already understand each other's work schedule
05:38 Because
05:39 You know how we work, right?
05:41 There's no schedule
05:43 There's no fixed schedule
05:46 So you just go with the flow
05:48 Speaking about leave
05:50 Last time when I was working 9 to 5
05:52 I can only take leave for 2 weeks
05:54 Because the government gives
05:56 It's the law
05:58 I only took leave
05:59 So there's someone who will take over
06:01 Now, even for a week, I feel like
06:02 The client will be disappointed
06:04 That's right
06:05 If you're on leave, you don't have money
06:06 Yes, on leave, you don't have money
06:07 That's right
06:08 You have no income
06:09 After that, I'll call the client
06:11 Can you give me a job?
06:13 Something like this
06:14 As a content creator, I understand
06:17 But I'm very interested to know
06:19 Why are you like a behind the scenes girl?
06:22 How did you find the voice?
06:24 Like stealing from Ariel?
06:26 Or Ursula style?
06:27 It's easy to tell, Cassidy
06:29 We're actually very expressive people
06:31 Who are bitter
06:32 That's right
06:33 We need to talk about what makes us bitter
06:36 We need to talk about our opinions
06:38 We do a podcast
06:39 If we do social media, we need to have a guideline
06:43 Podcast has no guidelines
06:45 So if you hear it, you can
06:46 "Huah, huah, huah"
06:47 And beat everyone up
06:48 And on top of that
06:50 I think because now
06:51 On social media and digital
06:53 Everyone can do content, right?
06:55 But due to our background
06:57 As media practitioners
06:58 We put some credibility
06:59 It's the same as when I see your content
07:01 I know you're a professional
07:03 Do you understand?
07:04 That's me, sister
07:05 No, no, no
07:06 No, when we see
07:08 Okay, they put some thoughts
07:10 Thank you!
07:12 That's the difference, Cassidy
07:13 Because you don't want
07:15 Influencer or content creator
07:16 To be known as a fool, right?
07:18 That's right
07:19 So we need more people with credibility
07:21 To dare to do content
07:23 Thank you, oh my god
07:25 It's the way you all say that
07:27 I do things like there's an afterthought
07:29 That's right
07:30 Because people think
07:31 "Eh, he's just a TikToker"
07:32 "I'm just a TikToker"
07:33 We use head producer
07:35 Writer, editor
07:37 Videographer, sometimes marketer
07:39 That's right
07:40 That's why I hate it when people label
07:42 People like us
07:44 People label me as an influencer
07:46 I am not an influencer
07:48 The influencers that you can see
07:49 On social media
07:50 The ones that grow like a cockroach
07:52 The ones that are like this
07:53 Influencer
07:54 Even that, you call them influencer
07:56 What is it that they're an influencer?
07:57 That's right
07:58 Like bad influence
08:00 That's right
08:02 You don't want to spend money
08:04 You're just a fool, right?
08:06 That's right
08:07 It's very interesting
08:09 Because you said you're behind the scenes
08:11 And then you appear
08:13 You find your voice
08:15 But
08:16 Because you've done a podcast
08:18 Yes
08:19 How did it explode?
08:21 How did people realise
08:22 "Oh my god, these two are crazy"
08:23 "These four are crazy"
08:24 You said it for 4 hours
08:25 "These four are crazy, I want to follow"
08:27 Because initially
08:29 He already had a YouTube channel
08:31 He's one of our podcasters
08:33 Do you know Hazman Huzeh?
08:34 He's one of our podcasters
08:36 Initially, I have to give credit to him
08:38 Because when I didn't have a podcast platform
08:42 He always asked me to appear on his podcast
08:45 On his YouTube channel
08:46 For stories
08:47 And you know, the fastest-growing story is
08:49 The ghost story
08:51 Because he's a mystic
08:53 Somehow
08:54 You can see
08:55 Don't say it
08:56 If he tells you, he'll get a cut
08:58 There are a lot of people behind the scenes
09:00 I don't want to know
09:02 So he's already there
09:04 A leg is already there
09:06 We have Hazman Huzeh
09:07 He's already an influencer
09:09 Sarah is sort of an influencer as well
09:11 She doesn't like it
09:12 She's an entertainer
09:14 Old
09:15 Combining with
09:16 I guess my producer head
09:18 Because I've been a producer for the longest time
09:20 For TV
09:21 I think our skill set
09:23 They merge
09:24 But the key point
09:25 How it exploded
09:27 Is because
09:28 I can't deny this
09:29 One, the ghost story
09:30 Strategy
09:31 Second
09:32 I'll share some tips
09:33 Who's your celebrity friend?
09:35 Call them
09:36 Call them to help you with the early episodes
09:38 That's important
09:39 To have a celebrity friend
09:41 Because we've noticed
09:42 In the early episodes
09:43 In season 1
09:45 We can't approach the topic in an intellectual way
09:47 We have to be more tea-minded
09:49 Of course
09:50 We don't want to be known as a gossip podcast
09:53 But somehow you have to
09:54 Because if you don't have an audience
09:55 You'll talk to yourself
09:56 I understand
09:57 So the first step is about
09:58 Gathering the audience first
10:00 When you have a lot of listeners
10:01 And the word has spread
10:02 They're talking nicely
10:04 It'll boom
10:05 But exactly
10:06 We started when it really boomed
10:07 Was one of the episodes
10:08 That we didn't even realize
10:10 It was a woman empowerment episode
10:13 Oh yeah
10:14 We started with woman empowerment episode
10:16 We have a lot of audience
10:17 Because
10:18 Sarah and I
10:19 We have a very different view
10:21 From the majority of women
10:23 For example
10:24 Actually
10:25 We don't endorse marriage
10:27 A lot of people want to get married
10:29 So we're like
10:31 You guys are okay
10:32 If you're not desperate to find a partner
10:34 You build yourself
10:35 So not many people
10:37 Talk about what we're talking about
10:38 A different approach
10:40 On how women's lives could be different
10:43 If you don't conform to the society
10:47 So we talk a lot about that
10:49 About our POV as women
10:50 Who like to rebel
10:52 Apparently people like that
10:54 Because it's fresh
10:56 I think it's fresh
10:58 And you guys are brave
10:59 You dare to challenge the norm
11:02 But that wasn't our intention
11:04 It wasn't our intention
11:06 Maybe because you're very comfortable
11:07 Talking to a friend
11:08 That you have known for quite some time
11:10 So you just go out
11:12 We sort of call out
11:14 For example
11:15 A woman in a marriage
11:16 Who's always abused
11:17 You still sit there
11:19 We're comfortable
11:20 What are you doing?
11:23 Those kind of things
11:24 So I want to know
11:25 When you deal with celebrities
11:27 You don't have to name drop
11:29 Because I don't want you to get sued
11:30 There must be a famous celebrity
11:33 Oh my god
11:35 Nell and I
11:36 We always talk about this
11:38 And always one name that comes up
11:40 Generally
11:41 No name dropping
11:43 I want to name drop
11:44 But if you can't
11:45 After show
11:46 But I think
11:48 I mean
11:49 Who we invite
11:50 Of course, it's a celebrity
11:51 But I mean
11:52 Our experience working in industry
11:54 We have one common celebrity
11:56 That everyone
11:57 Never had that experience
11:59 People outside
12:01 I mean the public audience
12:02 They'll be like
12:03 She's nice
12:04 But who has worked with her
12:05 Knows her real character
12:06 I think
12:07 Who you have been talking to
12:08 Will know who she is
12:09 Exactly
12:10 I've seen it
12:12 The newbies
12:14 In the industry
12:15 Won't know
12:16 Only us
12:17 Because we've seen
12:18 For example, I've seen
12:19 She put a script on someone's face
12:21 She showed it to people
12:22 But in public
12:24 Everyone will be like
12:25 She's so nice
12:26 People won't know
12:28 She's a devil
12:29 I think I've seen her in the show
12:31 Okay
12:33 She's like
12:34 People worship her outside
12:36 Because of her image
12:38 Her
12:39 Already gave her
12:41 There
12:42 Producer Nura
12:44 Please invite this person
12:46 We want to ask
12:48 Is she a devil?
12:49 You invited her
12:50 She's so nice
12:51 She'll put a persona
12:53 She'll put a persona
12:54 But I'll ask
12:55 Is it true
12:56 According to the hostess
12:58 Or talk to you later
13:00 You've put a script on someone's face
13:03 She didn't just put it
13:05 She cursed
13:06 She said
13:07 Very typical
13:08 I mean people behind the scenes
13:09 Or people who have worked with her
13:10 Will know
13:12 Even the media knows
13:13 The media knows
13:14 But the media doesn't
13:15 Why?
13:16 Why did the media protect her?
13:17 Not to protect
13:19 They don't want to face the repercussions
13:21 They don't have the energy
13:23 To face all the problems
13:24 Plus everything she did
13:25 Was like a boom
13:26 So next time
13:27 We want to be able to cover
13:29 That boom story
13:30 So we'll keep a PR
13:32 PR
13:33 I understand
13:34 Wow
13:35 I thought they'll be
13:37 Secretive
13:38 Won't say anything
13:40 The industry will know
13:42 You have to comment below
13:44 Who do you think
13:46 The comment below
13:48 Is full of Malaysian artists' names
13:50 Don't
13:51 Don't make a scene
13:53 In my comment section
13:54 I'll be the one
13:55 Who'll be on fire
13:57 I don't know
13:58 If you know, let me know
13:59 I don't know
14:00 I really don't know
14:01 Because
14:02 I mean my era
14:03 I consider myself as an influencer
14:05 In the digital era
14:08 We're from the analog era
14:10 Analog
14:11 Digital
14:12 Some people are doing things in digital
14:13 Some
14:14 You have your own range
14:16 She remembers
14:18 Because she has millions of followers
14:20 So she's like
14:21 Oh I'm a celebrity
14:22 You can think like that about yourself
14:24 But
14:25 Don't you feel ashamed
14:26 If you go to an event with me
14:28 People know me but not you
14:29 You know
14:30 That's not you
14:31 People don't know you
14:32 But
14:33 But her character
14:34 She's like
14:35 Oh Aca-Aca is so nice
14:37 But I've seen her before
14:39 But she didn't get to be in the script
14:40 Because she's not qualified to be an actor
14:42 So she
14:43 Like
14:44 She's a diva in the production industry
14:46 To me
14:47 I want to tell you one thing
14:48 If you want to survive in the industry
14:51 People that you can't
14:53 You can't
14:54 You can't root for
14:55 Is the production team
14:56 Don't root for make-up artists
14:58 Dialect
14:59 Behind the scenes
15:00 If you're not good enough
15:01 You can't do make-up
15:04 Make-up artists
15:05 They can make your face look bad
15:06 Right
15:07 It's okay if they make your face look bad
15:08 But they can make your name look bad
15:10 They can make the artist look like
15:11 Do you know who I am?
15:13 She's bad
15:14 She's bad
15:15 She's bad
15:16 Gossip spreads the fastest in the make-up room
15:19 Make-up room
15:20 The hub of gossip
15:22 That's right
15:23 If you're really feeling like an influencer
15:26 If you want to be a diva or whatnot
15:28 Make sure you really deserve to be a diva
15:30 Make sure you're steady
15:31 You can't be low-key
15:32 The lowest level you can be a diva
15:35 The lowest level you're worthy of being a diva
15:37 Steady
15:38 If you're not higher than steady
15:39 You can't
15:40 You don't have the right to be a diva
15:41 To me
15:44 You don't have to be a diva
15:46 Right
15:47 Sometimes
15:48 To me
15:49 Some people say
15:50 I'm quite difficult to work with
15:51 Because I
15:52 The time
15:53 Okay
15:54 So tea about myself
15:55 Some agencies
15:56 I love tea
15:57 Give him tea about himself
15:58 There are agencies
15:59 Half of the agencies can't stand me
16:00 Because
16:01 They give me a concept
16:02 To make content for clients
16:04 Stupid
16:05 They never think
16:07 So
16:08 Not up to your standard
16:09 So I'll give him
16:10 I said I don't want to do this
16:11 He can't accept
16:12 He said it's difficult
16:13 I said
16:14 Am I difficult or
16:15 You don't know what you want
16:16 Yeah
16:17 Sometimes
16:18 Sometimes
16:19 Clients will give
16:20 Instructions that
16:21 Don't make sense
16:22 Right
16:23 So you as an agency
16:24 Don't be a parrot
16:25 Right
16:26 Don't say
16:27 Clients say they don't like
16:28 You think
16:29 You tell clients
16:30 Right
16:31 So sometimes
16:32 To me
16:33 I don't think I'm a diva
16:34 But I just know what I want
16:35 Yeah, exactly
16:36 I'm firm
16:37 Don't confuse firm
16:38 With
16:39 So when you invited
16:40 People on your podcast
16:42 Yeah
16:43 There must be
16:44 Experience that you know
16:45 A wood artist
16:46 Or a guest
16:47 We don't have guests
16:48 On our podcast
16:49 We don't have guests
16:50 Okay, so
16:51 Actually
16:52 For me
16:53 It's important
16:54 We warm up before the show
16:55 Right
16:56 We have to make him comfortable
16:57 Producer is the best
16:58 So
16:59 You have to warm up
17:00 With him
17:01 Then he
17:02 Because some people
17:03 He's the best
17:04 He's quiet when he gets the mic
17:05 He's like
17:06 His tongue is itchy
17:07 He's very aware
17:08 When there's a mic in front
17:09 He feels awkward
17:10 So we have to
17:11 Make him relax
17:12 Because
17:13 Podcast is more
17:14 We want it to be heart to heart
17:15 Right
17:16 But actually
17:17 One of our podcaster
17:18 He's a wood artist
17:19 Oh
17:20 Over time
17:21 We train him
17:22 He's become
17:23 He's one of the favourite characters
17:24 Oh
17:25 Favourite character
17:26 You guys are like
17:27 Podcast is a drama
17:28 Podcast
17:29 Podcast
17:30 But we have different characters
17:31 We have different characters
17:32 So the one who's
17:33 Used to
17:34 He's awkward
17:35 Now he's used to it
17:36 His name is Zul
17:37 He's a very chill character
17:39 But he's always
17:40 Hit by these two girls
17:41 Because he
17:42 The three of us
17:43 Are media practitioners
17:44 He's not from this industry
17:45 Okay
17:46 So whatever we say
17:47 He doesn't know
17:48 Like
17:49 What is he?
17:50 Like that
17:51 But people like that character
17:52 Oh because it's blurry
17:53 Blur
17:54 But it's really blurry
17:55 Because it's blurry
17:56 Then we curse him
17:57 Because it's blurry
17:58 So people like it
17:59 People like him cursing
18:00 So
18:01 Not just ghost stories
18:02 Not just
18:03 What is it
18:04 Celebrity friend
18:05 You have to curse
18:06 Yes
18:07 Your co-host
18:08 Yes
18:09 Curse your co-host
18:10 To make it interesting
18:11 Wow
18:12 What is the worst thing
18:13 That you get from your show
18:14 Like the comment
18:15 That you really feel
18:16 Like oh
18:17 Hmm
18:18 What is it
18:19 There's too much
18:20 Too much
18:21 Oh this
18:22 Means
18:23 Our audience
18:24 Asked us to be more Islamic
18:25 Okay
18:26 Means okay
18:27 Okay
18:28 He's like this
18:29 I understand why
18:30 Because they
18:31 Look at us
18:32 They said oh you guys
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