The Jeremy Kyle Show 17th September 2018
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00:00On today's show...
00:01I caught my best friend with my partner in the public toilets.
00:06Went past the public toilets and I heard moaning noises coming from there.
00:12We pretended to have a diabetic fit as a cover-up for them having sex.
00:17Please welcome the crewman's entry.
00:21I was in the middle, Becky was there, Helen was there.
00:30He started touching me up when he was with me.
00:34My mum and him have one argument.
00:36He lays in her bed at night messaging other women, but my mum is downstairs.
00:41You're upstairs.
00:42I'm asking you to come on this stage. Go away.
00:46Do you want to be with him right now?
00:48I don't know at the end of the day. He is a liar.
00:51Have I done any of them things, Mickey?
00:53No.
00:54No, so why have you done it to me?
00:56I'm going to give you a good life. A good life.
01:01APPLAUSE
01:02Good morning, guys.
01:15Good morning, guys.
01:17Good morning, all right?
01:20Good morning, all right?
01:20Thanks, good morning and a big, big welcome to the show.
01:22Right, our first guest today, Helen, is here
01:24for one almighty showdown with her ex-best mate, Becca,
01:27after she says, check this,
01:29she caught her ex-best mate having sex with her boyfriend, Mark.
01:33CHEERING
01:34Don't pink too soon.
01:36In a public toilet.
01:39Classy.
01:40There's so much to this story.
01:41Helen's on the Jeremy Carl Show that way.
01:44CHEERING
01:45CHEERING
01:46How are you?
01:52I'm all right.
01:53This is a story.
01:54Right, everybody at the side, from this exact moment we start,
01:57I want to hear this story develop, so be quiet.
02:00Helen, 39, welcome to the show.
02:04You are here with your ex-best mate, Becca,
02:06who you describe as your opening line as a dirty, filthy,
02:09sexually transmitted, diseased scumbag.
02:11Yes.
02:11Why?
02:14She got with another bloke who was in a relationship.
02:17Were you?
02:18No, there was a friend of mine.
02:19She took her bloke and gave him gonorrhea.
02:22LAUGHTER
02:23Give me some fact here.
02:24Why are you so against this?
02:25You were going...
02:26Basically, you were going out with Mark.
02:29Yes, I was.
02:31CHEERING
02:32I sit here every morning and I say the same thing.
02:43CHEERING
02:45CHEERING
02:46It's all right!
02:51CHEERING
02:52It's all right!
02:55It's all right!
02:55It's all right!
02:56CHEERING
02:56It's all right!
02:59CHEERING
03:00Sit down, shut up, wait until I say...
03:05Seriously, none of that.
03:06Just be quiet.
03:07Thank you very much.
03:08I want to hear...
03:09CHEERING
03:10I just lose the picture.
03:11I'm not interested.
03:12Same over there, Graham.
03:14Talk to me.
03:15You were going out with Mark.
03:16Yes, I was.
03:17This woman is your friend.
03:19This is what I can't as a sister.
03:20Well, right.
03:21And this girl has done this to you before?
03:23Yes, she has.
03:24With...
03:25Wait!
03:26With Tony?
03:27Yes.
03:27Who's Tony?
03:28Is that the bloke there?
03:29Yeah, he's on that side.
03:29Are you sleeping with him?
03:30No.
03:31Right.
03:32So, be quiet...
03:33Oh, shut up!
03:35So, you were with Tony...
03:36This is what I don't get about your story.
03:37You were with a guy called Tony.
03:38Your sister, Becca, best mate, stole him, but still she's your best friend.
03:43Then, because, quite honestly, you must be deranged, you thought it would be a really
03:47good idea to take him, the love of your life, and a woman who's already nicked a bloke
03:53off you.
03:54On holiday, in a two-man tent.
03:56LAUGHTER
03:57We camped in a two-man tent, her and Mark snuck to the toilets to have sex.
04:02Yes.
04:03What happened?
04:04Erm...
04:05I went to basically...
04:06They went out...
04:07What is this?
04:08This is a two-man tent.
04:10LAUGHTER
04:11Please welcome the two-man tent, you guys.
04:13APPLAUSE
04:14I just know what's going to happen.
04:24So, what happened was...
04:26What happened was...
04:27Come here, Alexander.
04:28So, in here, you've got a woman and two blokes.
04:32No.
04:33No?
04:34Two women and a bloke.
04:35Two women and a bloke.
04:36Right.
04:37Steve, come here.
04:38LAUGHTER
04:39Come here.
04:40You're smaller.
04:41See?
04:42Anything for the camera?
04:43In the middle.
04:44Right.
04:45Get in the middle.
04:46Just get in the middle.
04:47Just lie down in the middle of...
04:48Not holding in there.
04:49Just get...
04:50Come here.
04:51You're smaller.
04:52See?
04:53Anything for the camera?
04:54In the middle.
04:55CHEERING
04:56Right.
04:57Any...
04:58Any volunteers from the audience?
05:00This lady here, whose husband...
05:02His boyfriend won't ask her to get married at all.
05:04Could you go once...
05:05Will, you're in the middle.
05:06You're in the middle.
05:07Could you go, well, any other volunteers from the audience?
05:10Look at hands going up like I wouldn't believe.
05:12Your history.
05:13Never mind.
05:14There we go.
05:15So, if we could just...
05:16So, there we go.
05:17So, yeah.
05:21Can you come here a minute?
05:22Come here.
05:23So...
05:24Tell me what happened, then.
05:26I mean, that's pathetic.
05:27I couldn't fit myself in there.
05:29You are...
05:30He was in the middle?
05:31Yes, he was.
05:32Then what happened?
05:33Well, they...
05:34He moved over towards where Becca was.
05:36He got closer to Becca.
05:37Did you think anything was going on whilst he was...
05:39I mean, you must have thought.
05:41Well, I reckon they must have done something while I was asleep.
05:43I'd wait till I...
05:44I slept.
05:45Why would you put a woman who slept with one ex very close to your man
05:50whilst you were asleep?
05:51I didn't.
05:52He moved over to her.
05:53I was asleep at the time.
05:54But I woke up and I saw he moved.
05:55Right.
05:56Give this lot a round of applause.
05:57Go, go, go.
05:58So...
05:59I've said thank you very much.
06:00Well done.
06:01Very good.
06:02Very good.
06:03Yay!
06:10Way too invited to say anything.
06:11There's a tent that's going to stay on.
06:13So...
06:14Then one day you woke up.
06:15How long were you in Western Supermare for?
06:17From...
06:18Only two days.
06:19Right.
06:20You woke up on the second night and they weren't there?
06:22Yeah.
06:23What did you do?
06:24Please tell me.
06:25Fill me in.
06:26I went looking for them, basically.
06:27Yes.
06:28I thought they might be at the car because they normally go in the car for a cigarette.
06:31They normally go in the car?
06:33Yeah, they normally sit in the car.
06:34Was there nothing in your head that went,
06:36I bet she's up to no good?
06:37I had a feeling there was something going on but I couldn't prove it.
06:40That's the problem.
06:41Right.
06:42So where did you go to look for them?
06:43I went past the public toilets and I heard moaning noises coming from there.
06:48It's just an absolute joy, this show.
06:52Oh, shut up.
06:53I've heard her before because...
06:55You've heard, you know her sex noises.
06:57Yes, because when she had her own place, she slept, she had sex with another bloke while
07:01I was in the same bed.
07:02You confronted them.
07:03Did you bash the door down?
07:04I don't even believe.
07:05I banged on the door.
07:07Yeah.
07:08And he goes, who's...
07:09Mark said, who's there?
07:10And I go, it's me.
07:11Right.
07:12It's your girlfriend.
07:13Sorry, yeah.
07:14It's your fiance.
07:15Oh, fiance.
07:16Shut up.
07:17And I said, it's me.
07:19And he goes, oh, it's me in here.
07:21And I go, I know you're with Becca.
07:22And then it took him two minutes to open the door.
07:24Then he pretended to have a diabetic fit as a cover-up for them having sex.
07:29He claimed to have had a diabetic fit?
07:31Yes.
07:32He was sat on the floor.
07:33I am the doorman.
07:34I'm totally sorry.
07:35You've just found me, oh dear fiance, in a public toilet with your best friend.
07:38I've actually had a diabetic fit.
07:40That's what you're saying.
07:41Yes?
07:42What?
07:43On the floor more like.
07:44Oh dear.
07:45Now, incredibly, what I find even more extraordinary is that you spent the next night in the tent with
07:52them again.
07:53I mean, you must be devastated.
07:54I was devastated.
07:55But not surprised because she's done it to you before.
07:58Yeah, but I didn't think.
07:59She kept saying to me, oh, I don't want to ruin our friendship.
08:03They freely admit they'd done it 20 times in Western Supermare.
08:06Every time you'd turned over, gone to sleep, got...
08:09Oh, be quiet.
08:11Outside the tent.
08:13So, why are you here now?
08:15Because they're together.
08:16They're rubbing your face in it.
08:17What's the point?
08:18I just want answers from him, not her, as to why he'd done that.
08:23Isn't there some money as well?
08:25Be quiet!
08:26Oh, shut up!
08:27She's stolen your car, apparently, as well.
08:29Yeah, they won't give my car back.
08:30Well, if you give me a £400 back, mate, and you'll have your car back...
08:33What £400 back?
08:34Is that you stole out of your bank for my money?
08:35Becca's on the Jeremy Carr Show that way!
08:45You can have the car back, but until then, you ain't having a car.
08:47No, that's that.
08:48You can't...
08:49Just try it.
08:50Really?
08:51Try it, bring it on.
08:52All right.
08:53Bring it on.
08:54I don't want to sit next to you, mate.
08:55I don't want to sit next to you, little...
08:56Really?
08:57Yeah.
08:58Totally behind my back.
08:59You...
09:00Really?
09:01Tony?
09:02Don't go with it, Helen.
09:03No.
09:04This thing was.
09:05Don't lie.
09:06Who's Tony?
09:07You've been admitted once!
09:08No, behind my back and behind Mark's back, was it?
09:09Sorry, hold on a minute.
09:10Who's Tony?
09:11Who's Tony?
09:12Who's Tony?
09:13Who's Tony?
09:14Who's Tony?
09:15Who's Tony?
09:16Who's Tony?
09:17Where'd you sneak off to at 3 o'clock in the morning there to go pick him up, huh?
09:20I didn't pick him up.
09:21I didn't pick him up.
09:22I didn't pick him up.
09:23I didn't pick him up.
09:24I didn't pick him up.
09:25I didn't pick him up.
09:26I didn't pick him up.
09:27I didn't pick him up.
09:28I didn't pick him up.
09:29Hold on a second.
09:30You were her mate, yeah?
09:31I was.
09:32You deliberately went on holiday and in that tent stole her man.
09:36No.
09:37And you're out here having to go, oh, shut up.
09:38Go on, speak.
09:39GG.
09:40She slept with my partner.
09:41Who's he?
09:42She slept with Tony when I was Tony.
09:44So, well, this was a revenge act getting with Mark.
09:46No, it's not revenge.
09:47You can't help.
09:48You can't help who you fall in love with.
09:49I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
09:50You've fallen in love with him.
09:52He wants to be with me, not you.
09:53We've been together a week.
09:55How can you be out of someone?
09:56How can you be out of someone?
09:57What, a week?
09:58What, no, yeah, all right.
09:59I'm a little bit...
10:00Can you...
10:01Will you be quiet?
10:02You said nothing when I wanted you to speak.
10:04Now you've got verbal diarrhoea.
10:06Be quiet.
10:07Who is that?
10:10That's Tony.
10:11Lose the picture, Matt, please.
10:12I want you to talk to me, Becca.
10:14Lose the picture, Matt.
10:15You used to be with Tony.
10:17Yep.
10:18And then she, apparently, according to you, stole him.
10:21What happened?
10:22Tell us.
10:23Don't interrupt.
10:24I got with Tony.
10:25And then two days after I got in a relationship with him,
10:27I went round to one of my mate's house and come back
10:30and I didn't know nothing about it until I confronted him.
10:32It was in the other day that he turned round and told me on Facebook
10:35Oh, nice.
10:36That he slept with her behind my back.
10:38So, you found...
10:39No, no, no.
10:40So, you didn't know about that when you went after Mark then?
10:43I know.
10:44Explain to me how a friend, who she described as a sister,
10:47goes on holiday and systematically...
10:49Because you and Mark make no secret of this.
10:51You had sex the whole time, didn't you?
10:52Yeah.
10:53Deliberately behind her back.
10:55Can't have people for it at the end of the day.
10:57But that was your mate.
10:59She's done it.
11:00So, did you do it out of revenge?
11:02You can shut up her mouth.
11:03No, I did do it out of revenge, no.
11:04So, why are you here today?
11:05Because I want them not to start threatening me and...
11:08I have not threatened you.
11:09Helen, you've got loads of people texting me and my mum
11:12where my kids live for God's sake, getting people to go to my mum's house.
11:15I have not said anything.
11:16Shut your mouth, mate.
11:17Helen's an attention seeker.
11:18She's stolen my money.
11:19I have her car.
11:21And unless the sloth gives me the 400 quid, she ain't getting her car back.
11:25No, she ain't.
11:26And I've got proof as well.
11:27And now, Tony, you say, I'm glad I'm not with him because he stank.
11:31He don't bath.
11:32None of them bath, man.
11:33They're both welcome to each other.
11:34But you were sleeping with a man who didn't bath.
11:36I admit, I did not sleep with him for months.
11:39On the left is the...
11:41Oh, look at his neck.
11:42On the left...
11:43Is that your work, is it?
11:45Well, obviously, yeah.
11:46Yeah, well, it might be somebody else.
11:48So, we've got the love bite scenario man on the left
11:52who was going out with you but is now sleeping with her.
11:56And on the right, we've got the bloke that you were going out with, Tony,
11:59who you had...
12:00Did you have sex with Tony?
12:01When she was with him, the once.
12:03Oh, see?
12:04Oh, you're a million now.
12:05You're a million now.
12:06That sort of loses the moral high ground.
12:08I'm the only person on this stage who hasn't had sex with everybody.
12:12Back in a minute.
12:17She was the one that cheated on me twice.
12:18I have never cheated on you.
12:19I have.
12:20You've admitted it just...
12:21You're just admitting it.
12:22You're about me.
12:23It's both you and Mark.
12:24What are you gonna...
12:25Here.
12:26What are you to say?
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12:54You had sex with Mark, her partner, before you went to Western Supermare?
13:08Yeah.
13:09You had?
13:10Did you hear that?
13:11Is there nothing about you that wakes up and smells this situation?
13:14They were sleeping behind your back, love.
13:15I haven't...
13:16You've done the same.
13:17It's like sleeping with a...
13:18Sleeping with her.
13:19Are you not really?
13:20Please tell me.
13:21Mark's on the show with the love bites.
13:22Give him a round of applause.
13:23When we were sleeping, I was glitching here and I was...
13:24Like this.
13:25What did you say?
13:26We were sleeping here.
13:27Who was sleeping?
13:28I was in the middle.
13:29Becky was there.
13:30Helen was there.
13:31Me and Becky, when she was sleeping, was literally this far away and I was...
13:34When we were sleeping, I was literally here and I was...
13:36Like this.
13:37What did you say?
13:38We were sleeping here.
13:39Who was sleeping?
13:40I was in the middle.
13:41Becky was there.
13:42Helen was there.
13:43Me and Becky, when she was sleeping, was literally this far away and I was...
13:47Right, good.
13:48Okay.
13:49Why didn't you just finish it with your girlfriend before you started having sex with her mate
13:52three feet from the tent?
13:53Because it was love at first sight.
13:54Sorry?
13:55It was love at first sight.
13:56Wouldn't it be more respectful?
13:57Let's say...
13:58What did you say?
13:59What did you say?
14:00What did you say?
14:01We were sleeping here.
14:02We were sleeping here.
14:03Who was sleeping?
14:04I was in the middle.
14:05Becky was there.
14:06Helen was there.
14:07Me and Becky, when she was sleeping, was literally this far away and I was...
14:10Right.
14:11Good.
14:12Why didn't you just finish it with your girlfriend before you started having sex with her mate three feet
14:15from the tent?
14:16If you were disrespectful, let's say you didn't want to be with Helen.
14:18Let's just say that you decided to move on.
14:20Why would you rub her nose in it mate?
14:21Because she was the one that cheated on me twice.
14:23I have never cheated on you.
14:24Who do I have?
14:25You've admitted it just...
14:26You're just admitting it and you're like a clown by the way.
14:28I was not even with you when I slept with her name.
14:31One by the time when you picked him up from the police station then...
14:33I did not pick him up from the police station.
14:34Has anybody not slept with anybody else?
14:35Yes she did.
14:36No I did not.
14:37Has anybody gone to work?
14:38I never picked him up from the police station.
14:39Has anybody gone to work or did you just all have sex the whole time?
14:41That's the point there.
14:42So you were with her, you were engaged though weren't you Helen?
14:48I was engaged.
14:49But I'm glad I'm not anymore.
14:50Tell us what the relationship, you say she needs to back off, it was an awful relationship.
14:54Yeah she needs to back off, stop threatening Becky, stop threatening Becky's family.
14:58I have not...
14:59All she did when...
15:00Tell her not me.
15:01All she did when I was with you was play your s*** game.
15:03What's this diabetic attack?
15:04It's a bit disrespectful to people who have diabetic fits.
15:06I'm gonna try one diabetic myself.
15:08Well then don't make it up because you said it was a lie.
15:10That's the excuse I come up with.
15:12You're in a public toilet with another woman and you go I'm sorry I've had a diabetic attack.
15:15I've got...
15:16I had to think on my feet then I saw.
15:18Right now who's Laura?
15:19Now Laura, right, is best friends with you.
15:23She says you tried it on with her.
15:25Is this a week after she got married or a week?
15:27No, the day before she got married.
15:29But that's funny because...
15:30Laura's on the Jeremy Kyle show that way.
15:33You do it all the time.
15:34What?
15:35You do it all the time.
15:36What?
15:37You do it all the time.
15:38What?
15:39You do it all the time.
15:40What?
15:41You do it all the time.
15:42What says you?
15:43You're a cheater.
15:44It's not about me.
15:45It's about you and Mark.
15:46Why are you here?
15:47I'm here.
15:48What are you to say?
15:49You're to slam each other off anyway.
15:51Because I'm not...
15:52Oh yeah.
15:53Love it.
15:54Love it.
15:55Every day, mate.
15:56Mark trying not to be on my day with my father.
15:58I'm a baffler.
16:01I'm a baffler.
16:02Why do I?
16:03Really?
16:04I know this is called the Jeremy Kyle show and some might think that I'm involved but
16:10I am.
16:11So shut the hell up shouting.
16:13You knew this man before you got married and before you married the love of your life
16:20has said two words.
16:21What happened?
16:22The day before we got married on a Friday, we went out for a few drinks before I got married
16:27and then Mark went to my mate's house to get some weed and then...
16:31And then he said...
16:32He said he was going to buy drugs or what I said?
16:35And he said that he wants to...
16:37Before day before my wedding.
16:38But that's funny because we was in college, we was in coventry all night so...
16:41How was that?
16:42What did you say?
16:43How was that possible?
16:44I said no.
16:45I really want to sleep with someone like that.
16:46I want to sleep with you!
16:47The s***!
16:48Are you mad?
16:49So, Becca, you say has a reputation.
16:50I know, you've had a reputation for 22 years.
16:51Hang on, who's the one that said you had a reputation yourself?
16:5218!
16:53After Becca?
16:5418 years ago!
16:55No, I haven't!
16:56I'm happy married, thank you!
16:57Yeah, but she says...
16:58Hello!
16:59I don't go see whoever people...
17:00Boyfriends!
17:01Oh, really?
17:02She didn't...
17:03I know, I did!
17:04So, she slept with one of your boyfriends as well?
17:05Yes, she did!
17:06My house is...
17:07No!
17:08So, you were going out with her, and before that, you slept with Tony, her boyfriend, and
17:28you slept with him.
17:29You got married to a bloke who can't say anything.
17:32The night before you got married to him, he wanted to have sex with you.
17:35And I said no!
17:36And you've also slept with him!
17:37No, I haven't slept with him!
17:38No, I haven't!
17:39What?
17:40So, you're going to lie to me then, is he?
17:41Can I ask you something, Bec?
17:42Bec, you made a point to my team, right?
17:45You said that she is cheating on her husband.
17:48Yeah.
17:49How do you know that?
17:50No, I'm not!
17:51Go out!
17:52No, we don't!
17:53I don't need hardly go out!
17:54I'm looking after my mum and dad!
17:55Have you cheated on your husband?
17:57No, I haven't!
17:58Because I've been looking after my mum and dad!
17:59Be honest, have you cheated on my husband?
18:00No, I haven't!
18:01I haven't!
18:02I haven't!
18:03It's a joke!
18:04It's a joke!
18:05It's a joke!
18:06It's a joke!
18:07No, it's not!
18:08You're married!
18:09You've just got two days to get engaged!
18:10Helen!
18:11You don't got the...
18:12Sorry!
18:13For what?
18:14For cheating!
18:15That's not...
18:16Why are you even on here anyway?
18:17To prove you're a...
18:18Or what?
18:19You ain't a...
18:20No, I'm not!
18:21I'm not!
18:22I'm not a...
18:23I'm not a...
18:24To prove a point!
18:25Prove what?
18:26You're a...
18:27No, I'm not!
18:28No, I'm not!
18:29To prove a point!
18:30To prove a point!
18:31Prove what?
18:32Because I know you're a cheater!
18:33Who's Andy?
18:34Because I know you're a cheat
18:38Who's Andy
18:44And is your brother
18:46Just adopted brother and you used to go out with him. No, I didn't know
18:52Why she's here because
19:00Say started touching me up when he was
19:04Oh
19:06Yeah, you know Jack Russell remember that
19:24I'm going for walking
19:30She with Laura yeah, she was cheating on me as well
19:34You were cheating on me
19:40This is a story about when he met another woman and then tell us this is brilliant
19:44It's my favorite line ever just tell them what his excuse was and what happened bill
19:48He told us all he had amnesia
19:50Love you loads
19:52Yeah, that's the text
19:54He sent that to her
19:56I don't love him like I used to
19:58No, he knows that I've closed down
20:00He's hurt me too many times
20:02He's done this I asked him to do one thing
20:04It's not hurt me
20:06Are there three people in your relationship?
20:08Are there three people in your relationship?
20:10Are you in a love triangle?
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20:32Hello, welcome back I think I'm having a breakdown
20:44So this story started with you
20:46You came out you said I was in a relationship with a bloke called Mark
20:48This friend of mine Becca was like a sister to me
20:50Had actually cheated on, well stolen a boyfriend of mine before
20:52So I thought it was a really good idea as I was into Mark
20:54To invite her and him into a two-man tent which you can see
20:58In western, shut up, this is my moment
21:00This is my moment
21:02And I was very upset to discover that in fact they were at it at the tent
21:04And outside the tent
21:06But anyway, after a couple of nights
21:08I woke up and they'd gone
21:10And I walked past this public toilet
21:12And I realised that Mark was in there with Becca
21:14Right? Okay this is important
21:16This is important to the story
21:18So that's that, then you come out and you say
21:20She did the same to you
21:22When you were with a guy called Tony
21:24You're now with Mark, you're very happy
21:26You come out, I don't even know where you came from
21:28You're, you're just a friend of hers
21:30And you say, you know what I'm having
21:31I know, I'm 14 years
21:32I don't know what Rebecca does
21:33But you say that this man, this Mark
21:35This guy who apparently is happy
21:37Tried it on with you a day before you got married
21:39I know, I did, I didn't testify
21:40Who's Tony?
21:41Her ex
21:42My ex
21:43Are you friends with Tony?
21:44Yes
21:45This is the one that Becky slept with
21:47Yes
21:48Tony's on the Jeremy car show
21:49You're the biggest
21:50Who is?
21:51Yeah you are
21:52You've got one pair of underwear, that's it
21:53You don't
21:56Really?
21:57You're a
21:58Sorry what, why are you doing?
21:59I'm
22:00I'm
22:02I'm
22:03I'm
22:04I'm
22:05I'm
22:06I'm
22:07I'm
22:08I'm
22:09I'm
22:10I'm
22:11I'm
22:12I'm
22:13I'm
22:14I'm
22:32I'm
22:33I'm
22:35I'm
22:37I'm
22:41I'm
22:42Oh, yeah.
22:47Descending into what I feared it would be quiet.
22:50You were, you were with her.
22:52Yeah.
22:53You're as bad, you're all as bad as each other.
22:54You had sex with her, right?
22:56Yeah.
22:57Now you come out.
22:58No, be quiet.
22:59Seriously, I'll lose it.
23:00Now you come out, you call her every name under the sun.
23:02Same as I said to him, none of you are better than anybody else.
23:06You're exactly the same as her.
23:07You're the male equivalent.
23:08What makes you so high and mighty all of a sudden?
23:12I don't know.
23:13And what were you causing trouble about last night?
23:15Last night?
23:16Because you, you're getting it right.
23:18Because you've been a pain in the backside all night, haven't you, to my team?
23:21No.
23:22Really?
23:23What about racial abuse?
23:24What about having to be thrown out of the hotel?
23:26What about getting drunk?
23:27What about misbehaving?
23:28You horrible human being.
23:29Terrell Fox.
23:30Yeah.
23:31Horrible.
23:32Do you know why you're clapping?
23:33Because you slept with him, you idiot.
23:35Yeah, the biggest was good.
23:36Who's Andrew?
23:37Andrew from my foster brother.
23:39This guy's an Elvis impersonator.
23:41My morning is disappearing.
23:42Uh-huh!
23:43It's next.
23:44Give him a round of applause.
23:45I don't know.
23:46Bless me.
23:55Uh-huh.
23:56Thank you, Jeremy.
23:57What is going on?
23:58Who have...
23:59Right, I'll tell you what.
24:00We can do something very, very unique.
24:02Your ex is...
24:03Which one?
24:04Laura...
24:05Why are you here?
24:06Why?
24:07I'm here to back these two up.
24:08Have you slept with him?
24:09No.
24:10Have you slept with her?
24:11No, she's my sister.
24:12This is the Jeremy Carr show.
24:14Have you slept with her?
24:15No, thanks.
24:16Have you slept with her?
24:17Nah.
24:18Have you slept with him?
24:19You're having a laugh, aren't you?
24:20You're slept with anybody!
24:21Why are you two...
24:27I don't understand how this ties into the story.
24:30Why are you looking like...
24:31I'm here to support Helen, my best friend.
24:33Right.
24:34And?
24:35Because I know for a fact that she wouldn't do anything wrong when she's in a relationship.
24:38I know she's loyal to her partners, so I know she wouldn't do anything.
24:41But her so-called fiancé at the time decided to touch me up one night when me, Helen and him were in a...
24:49You tried it on with her as well, Mark?
24:51No.
24:52Hang on a minute.
24:53There was me, you and Helen in a bed.
24:55This is a brilliant story.
24:56They were also in a bed in an Airbnb.
24:59You were in a bed with Mark and him, yes?
25:02No, Helen and Mark.
25:04You were going out with Mark?
25:06No, Helen was going out with Mark.
25:07But you tried it on with her?
25:09Why do you all keep inviting him into spaces where three people go?
25:13Jeremy.
25:14What?
25:15Can I say something?
25:16I'm sure you're going to.
25:17I've lost the will to live, Elvis.
25:18When I was actually with Laura...
25:19Yeah?
25:20...she was cheating on me as well.
25:21Hang on, Andy!
25:22Shut up!
25:23We were cheating on me!
25:24Just show us where I had it!
25:25Why are you here?
25:26Why are you here?
25:28Did he not walk in on you having sex with somebody else?
25:31No.
25:32Yeah, so he did.
25:33No, you didn't.
25:34Let me just...
25:37Who's the person I'm supposed to have been sleeping with?
25:42Well, let's not...
25:44All of the...
25:45...and you give...
25:46...people.
25:47Is it really?
25:48Is it really?
25:49Let's just make a complete...
25:51Alright, Elvis.
25:52Uh-huh.
25:53Thank you very much.
25:54So...
25:55So you are...
25:56Let's just...
25:57Because you look very much like her.
25:58That'd be the next one.
25:59Oh!
26:00Oh!
26:01Oh!
26:02Oh!
26:03Oh!
26:04Oh!
26:05Oh!
26:06Oh!
26:07Oh!
26:08Oh!
26:09And yes?
26:10Why are you good at the same thing?
26:11Who have you slept with apart from Andy on the stage?
26:12No.
26:13One to Andy.
26:14So...
26:15So you don't like her because she's with Andy.
26:16I don't know.
26:17I hardly know the girls.
26:18I hardly know her.
26:19What?
26:20I hardly know her.
26:21Jealousy.
26:22Right so Andy, you're with no one.
26:23You're with her although you were engaged to her.
26:25No one could be with her anyway.
26:26You're coming to love bites from her.
26:27You're married to the nice guy there.
26:29Who are you with?
26:30No one. Well, this one, I think you should be with her.
26:32Yeah.
26:41Sorry?
26:42Can I have one minute, please?
26:44What are you doing?
26:50Are you mad at me?
26:54It's all show, it's all show!
27:00It makes me sick, it does.
27:04He'll cheat on everybody!
27:06What I loved about that whole proposal was,
27:10Dad, out the way, big fella.
27:12Just do that.
27:14Are you all right? You look a bit sad about that.
27:17I'm tired, that's all.
27:19You're tired? Why are you tired?
27:20Three kids keeping you up at night.
27:22Three kids keeping you up at night? Put something on the end of it.
27:25Um, um, um, um, um, um, so, so, are you, why don't you ask her out?
27:31No.
27:32Go on, it'll be a clean sweep.
27:34You both be a perfect couple, right?
27:36Yeah.
27:37You both be a perfect couple, right?
27:38Yeah, right.
27:39You both be a perfect couple, right?
27:40Yeah.
27:41You both sleep with a perfect day.
27:44Oh really?
27:45Really?
27:46One, two, three.
27:47You got warm, you got warm, huh?
27:49Why do you think he didn't sleep with Helen?
27:51Why didn't he think he didn't sleep with you?
27:53Why was that?
27:54You're like a fucking guy that were here.
27:56Yeah, at least...
27:57Who was at Helen cleaning the flat all the time?
27:58Oh yeah, well guess me.
27:59Because you're a lazy and...
28:00So were you.
28:01You don't clean your house.
28:04Hello, hello, can I just ask...
28:06Oh, shut up.
28:08Shut up.
28:09Oh, shut up. Shut up. Shut up.
28:12Right. So you are with him. You're very happy.
28:15We've done that already. You're with absolutely no-one,
28:17but would you want to be with Tony?
28:19No. You're happy being single.
28:20You're happy being single. You look absolutely delighted about it.
28:23Shut up. Shut your mouth, Lev.
28:25Why don't you shut your mouth?
28:27Right, there's been some allegations.
28:29I mean, we seem to be doing this a lot, but I want to ask this, right?
28:33There seems to be some allegations, which is hardly surprising,
28:35given that we just spent five minutes talking about the lack of health,
28:38that somebody might have given somebody else a sexually transmitted disease.
28:42I've never had one I have in my entire life.
28:43Sorry, I can't...
28:44I've never had one I have in my entire life.
28:47Hang on, I get checked every month because I've had two caesareans, love,
28:49so get a grip. When you've had kids, come back and tell me, yeah?
28:52Yeah, OK.
28:54Do you want to prove that at all?
28:56I'll prove that right now.
28:57I'll tell you what we'll do.
28:58If you two want to go and do a test now,
29:00I'll bring you back at the end to prove to everybody.
29:01Is that all right? As for the rest of you,
29:03what I'm going to do as a resolve, which I've never done before,
29:05I'm going to buy an eight-man tent, as I said.
29:07I'm going to send you all back to Western Supermare.
29:09I don't know, thank you.
29:10I'm going to put...
29:11No, no, I don't need that.
29:13...we prove they haven't got a sexually transmitted disease
29:16in an eight-man tent, Western Supermare, our whole weekend.
29:19Frankly, you're going to have a fantastic...
29:21Now, get out my sight, go!
29:23We'll catch you at the end of the car, go!
29:30Right, good luck to them.
29:31My next guest today, Abigail,
29:33is here to confront her mum's boyfriend, Mickey.
29:35She says that Mickey is a waste of space
29:37and knows absolutely that he's met other women
29:39behind her mum's back.
29:40She says that Mickey is using her mum for money
29:42and a roof over his head, and she says,
29:44I've had enough.
29:44Today, I want answers, I want the truth.
29:46Listen, young man, she says,
29:47you are not going to do this to my mother.
29:49Abigail's on the Jeremy Carl show that way.
29:55How are you doing?
29:58Well, not good, really.
30:00What I loved about reading about this this morning...
30:02Listen, is he married to your mum, Mickey?
30:04No.
30:06He's been in her life how long?
30:08Just over two years.
30:09You are absolutely...
30:10There's nothing deterring you from this view.
30:12You say this guy is up to no good.
30:14Oh, yeah, he is, yeah.
30:15All he does is treat it like a... all the time.
30:17He just snaps at me and my mum 24-7.
30:19You say he's just a deceitful, dodgy git.
30:22Yes, he is.
30:22Why? How do you know that?
30:23Because my mum and him have one argument.
30:26He lays in her bed at night messaging other women
30:29when my mum is downstairs.
30:31Now, I have to say that your mum wanted to be here today,
30:34but she has to look after one of her children.
30:36It wasn't possible for her to be here,
30:38and she wants you to do her bit.
30:40But I'm interested to ask you this.
30:41You're quite forceful about your opinion of him.
30:43Yes.
30:43Does she feel the same,
30:45or does she just get wrapped around his little finger?
30:47What happens?
30:48She has her own opinions of him,
30:50but at the end of the day,
30:51she has a feeling.
30:52She says, I love the guy.
30:53I don't know what to do.
30:54So I said, look, I'll go on the Jeremy Kyle show
30:57because at the end of the day, it has to be sorted.
30:59He told...
30:59You see, there's this story about when he met another woman,
31:02and then...
31:03Tell us... This is brilliant.
31:04It's my favourite line ever.
31:05Just tell them what his excuse was and what happened.
31:07He told us all he had amnesia.
31:10So, so...
31:11Now, we can't mock that for a simple reason.
31:14And I was talking about these shows always,
31:16and we always had briefings and stuff,
31:17and we were talking about,
31:18and I think...
31:19What's he called again, John?
31:20T... What is it?
31:22Tangent...
31:23Transient Global Amnesia.
31:25TGA is an absolute fact.
31:27People can be struck down like that in a heartbeat
31:29without going to too much detail.
31:30Somebody that I know that happened to her husband,
31:32and within 24 hours, he was completely recovered
31:34and had absolutely no recollection of the day.
31:38So I want to say here and now,
31:39before the do-gooders jump up and down,
31:41TGA is possible,
31:42and it might well be that this man had a moment.
31:45And one would only say,
31:47without knowing too much of the story yet,
31:49pretty convenient, isn't it?
31:50Well, if it was possible,
31:51then why would he remember going out
31:52with two of her friends as well,
31:54knowing what coffees he bought,
31:55finding a receipt in his wallet...
31:56But didn't he chat this woman up on Badoo?
31:58No, this is a different woman.
32:00Oh, Christ.
32:01Well, tell me about the Badoo woman.
32:02Oh, basically, it's the same website he met my mum on.
32:05And then he was lying in bed,
32:07messages this woman going,
32:09oh, I just want to be...
32:09Oh, you know, I want to meet up for coffee
32:10and, you know, let's go do that all together.
32:14It says on her thing,
32:15saying long-term relationship only,
32:16he said that basically it was friends only.
32:18Love you loads?
32:19Yeah, that's the text.
32:20He sent that to her?
32:21Yeah.
32:23No, I didn't.
32:25You ch... shut up.
32:26Yeah?
32:27You want to stay out of our relationship, babe?
32:29Be quiet.
32:29Calm down, you fifth-year-old way to space.
32:32Hark, who's talking?
32:33Oh, yeah, you're just ch...
32:35Fifty...
32:36You don't...
32:36Not every 50-year-old's a waste of space.
32:38No, B.
32:41He's been in your face a bit, hasn't he?
32:43Oh, yeah, when I was pregnant with my little girl,
32:45she's now six and a half months old,
32:46and he got in my face, threatening to hit me,
32:49threatening to basically, you know, go to me.
32:51He was going to me,
32:52oh, you need to pipe down a little bit,
32:54you're just a little girl.
32:54I'm just like, I'm not a little girl, mate.
32:56I'm 18, I'm getting married in a few months.
32:58I'm married now.
32:59And he just doesn't think me and my partner are happy together.
33:01Well, at the end of the day,
33:03if for him and my mum are so perfect together,
33:05then why is he going to see other women?
33:13You want to stay out?
33:14You want to stay out?
33:15If I ask you to come on this stage,
33:17go away until I ask you to come on.
33:19That is...
33:20That is...
33:20Hold on a second.
33:21Today is about what?
33:22Sticking up for your mum.
33:23Now, quite interestingly,
33:24I don't think he knows about this,
33:26but he's about to find out.
33:27I managed to create technological history
33:30on The Jeremy Kyle Show
33:31because she did desperately want to be here.
33:33I love this.
33:34What's she called your mum?
33:35Davina.
33:36There she is, Davina.
33:37Yay!
33:41Davina, your daughter's...
33:43I love your daughter.
33:44She's a chip off the old block.
33:45She's very strong.
33:46I know this is difficult for you,
33:47but it's also important that you're honest.
33:48Do you trust this man?
33:50No.
33:51Do you want to be with him right now?
33:55I don't know.
33:56At the end of the day,
33:57he is a liar.
33:58At the end of the day,
33:59he did message this woman on Purdue.
34:01He did go and meet up with her,
34:02and I caught him with my other daughter,
34:04and he...
34:05..hissed himself and ran for his life.
34:07It's true.
34:08You are a chip off the block.
34:09Mickey's on The Jeremy Kyle Show that way.
34:11Go, go, go, go.
34:12Go, go.
34:13Don't even do that to her.
34:21Do you understand?
34:22Sit down and be quiet right now.
34:24Oh, my God.
34:24It's easy.
34:25Oh, my God.
34:27Two guys in there.
34:29One quick enough of a pass.
34:31Let's talk about the Purdue, then.
34:32Let's talk about the woman that you met.
34:34Let's give you the opportunity to use TGA
34:37as a perfectly reasonable explanation.
34:40Just take me through it, nobody else.
34:42You were texting this woman, yeah?
34:43Yeah, as friends.
34:44Do you...
34:45Shush!
34:45Do you remember doing that?
34:47Yes.
34:48Right.
34:48So you remember texting her,
34:50and you met her on Purdue.
34:51Davina, don't speak.
34:52Hear me out.
34:53Don't go anywhere.
34:54Why would you say I love you lots?
34:56I didn't.
34:57She's a good friend.
34:57You're ch...
34:58I didn't.
34:59Mickey, we all saw the text.
35:01That's your husband, Luke.
35:02We'll get him on in a minute.
35:02Luke, be quiet.
35:03Look at me, look at me, look at me.
35:04What part, the amnesia, tell me how that happened.
35:07What was the story?
35:08Tell me, help me out.
35:09I went on air to get more friends.
35:11Right.
35:12You could shut up.
35:14She hasn't said anything.
35:15Look at me, you foul-mouthed human being.
35:17I'm asking you the question.
35:18How did you meet her, Purdue?
35:20Why did you agree to meet her?
35:22Because you wanted more friends.
35:23Yes.
35:23When you met her, you arranged to meet her.
35:25Did you go for a coffee?
35:27We were going to, yes.
35:28Then what happened?
35:30Then she was going to go home.
35:33Did you meet her?
35:34Yes.
35:35So you remember meeting her?
35:36Yes.
35:37What is it you don't damn well remember then?
35:39That wasn't that one.
35:40What?
35:40That wasn't that one.
35:41That wasn't that one.
35:41And X.
35:42No, the Purdue one, and basically the other one was different.
35:45Basically, with the other one, he went and biked all the way,
35:47about 18 miles from where we live,
35:49to give this woman his number through her letterbox,
35:51for her to text him and then to go meet up.
35:53What part of, when did you get amnesia?
35:57I've got all these people saying these things.
35:59I mean, give me some facts.
36:00When did you get amnesia?
36:02Well, I went to the dental office, got the wrong day.
36:09Got the wrong day.
36:10You are the shiftiest person I've ever met.
36:15Tell me something.
36:18Davina, let's put Davina on.
36:19He won't explain when he's got amnesia.
36:21You speak to him, Davina, because he won't listen to me.
36:23Yeah, when he got amnesia, right, he went off that day,
36:27he went and met this woman.
36:29I've spoken to this woman, yeah?
36:31Then he got amnesia.
36:32But funny, that night, he texted me and said,
36:34I don't know who I am or where I am.
36:36Why contact me on your mobile?
36:38Why didn't you contact everybody else?
36:39But it's funny, you were texting this woman all day at night.
36:42Very loud.
36:43And you know that's got down well.
36:45Davina, Davina, listen, I make the point I made at the beginning.
36:48TGA is a known medical condition.
36:52I'm not dissing in any which way.
36:54I'll put this to you, though, Mickey.
36:55It's slightly convenient, and I love you, Mrs,
36:57because she's made a really good point.
36:59Let's say when you went to meet this woman
37:00without telling your girlfriend, Mrs, whatever,
37:03and then you've got amnesia,
37:04how did you know to get hold of her then?
37:06It's because she got...
37:07I didn't.
37:07Well, why'd you get hold of her then?
37:08Why'd you phone Dan?
37:09Why'd you phone the Prime Minister?
37:11Why'd you get hold of her?
37:11If you lost your mind, you wouldn't know she was.
37:13Wouldn't know.
37:13Pick your mum, pick your dad, you ran my name.
37:18Sorry?
37:19I went to first number.
37:20So Davina is absolutely no, no, nobody in the world
37:23whose name begins with A, B, or C.
37:25My name was Davina.
37:25How did you know my name?
37:25My name's very difficult to get in it.
37:27Davina, shush, shush, go on.
37:28My number on his phone wasn't saved as Davina,
37:30it was saved as D, right?
37:31He had amnesia.
37:32Davina is a really hard name to remember.
37:34And he remembered my mum's address, right?
37:36And then he knew where he was walking to.
37:37He knew he was walking to the centre of Cambridge
37:39from my mum's house.
37:40It's a very hard way to walk, right?
37:42He knew exactly where he was going.
37:43Davina, you speak to him, mate,
37:45because you're right on it.
37:47And I don't even know.
37:48I mean, I've met...
37:49I'm not even walking.
37:49Talk to her.
37:50You're walking down the white past
37:52looking stoned as hell, mate.
37:53So you can shoot her.
37:53Oi, Mickey, turn around and talk to Davina.
37:55Go on.
37:55I was not stoned.
37:56Yeah, you weren't stoned.
37:59When you got to the hospital, yeah,
38:01at the end of the day,
38:01I even got this woman on the phone
38:03and she said to you when you were in the hospital,
38:05you met up with me,
38:06we had coffee together.
38:07No, we didn't.
38:08Yeah, you did, because we, me,
38:10I've been down to Luke,
38:10so all the text messages,
38:12I love you.
38:12Answer Davina.
38:13Davina threw me out.
38:16I did not.
38:18Do you love him?
38:20I don't love him like I used to.
38:22No, he knows that.
38:24I've closed down.
38:25He's hurt me too many times.
38:26He's done this.
38:27I asked him to do one thing.
38:28It's not hurt me.
38:29But all these things he's done,
38:30he says, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
38:31Come on, Mickey.
38:32You've got to answer her.
38:33Turn to her.
38:34Answer her.
38:35You shifty man.
38:36Talk to her.
38:37I'm not shifty.
38:38Yes, you are.
38:39You are.
38:39You are.
38:39You are.
38:39You are.
38:39You are.
38:40You are.
38:40You are.
38:40You are.
38:41You are.
38:41I have done.
38:42Which are what?
38:44Meeting that woman.
38:45Yes.
38:46But I thought you'd forgotten about that.
38:47Not that one.
38:48What about the other one?
38:50How do you know that you've forgotten about the other one
38:52if you didn't know you did it in the first place?
38:57You just said to me, I didn't have amnesia with the first one.
39:01It was the second one.
39:02How?
39:03Maybe you did get.
39:04How did you know you had amnesia with the second one
39:07and if you hadn't been to the doctor's at the hospital said?
39:10No.
39:10The doctor's words at the hospital said the work.
39:12How long did the amnesia last for?
39:14I can't remember.
39:17The doctor's words at the hospital were, I don't know exactly what it was.
39:21They put it down as that.
39:23Was it the first or the second woman that you went to meet?
39:27Second.
39:28How do you know that?
39:30Because everyone keeps telling me.
39:31So you don't know that you went to meet the second woman?
39:33Did you?
39:34No.
39:34At what point?
39:35Right, this is my big question.
39:36Million dollar, no noise to anybody.
39:38When you went that day, not on Badoo, second woman, for a coffee,
39:41whatever it was, you've forgotten because you've got amnesia.
39:45Were you walking along the road, this is what I'm saying,
39:47and did you suddenly go, oh, I don't know who I am,
39:49I'm going to go, which is going to happen, it happened, I've told you that.
39:52You took yourself to a hospital.
39:54Was that on the way to a house during you were at her house
39:57or on the way home?
39:57When was it?
39:59You can't remember.
40:00No.
40:00So do you remember going that day?
40:03No.
40:03So you're saying you didn't go that day?
40:06I don't remember.
40:08But you do remember meeting and chatting this woman, don't you?
40:10No.
40:11Well, it's not what you told us, she said you did.
40:13Well, first but not before.
40:16Really?
40:16You're always chatting to women online, though, aren't you?
40:19You chat so much.
40:20Why?
40:21I chat to her.
40:23Yes, you do.
40:24You want to...
40:25All you do is lie to my mum, and I've had enough of it, right?
40:28I'll tell you, do you remember that, right?
40:31It's a fusion of our lives.
40:32Yeah, you're learning.
40:33Yeah, you're using a DMB, mate.
40:35I'll tell you what, I need it for her, because if you do the world of good, you would.
40:43Well, how did you do these things?
40:45For one, we had an argument, first time.
40:47Second time, I don't...
40:49Right, so you're going to get an argument then, tell me.
40:50I'll go meet up with another man because we've had an argument.
40:52You don't do that in a relationship, it's wrong.
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41:35It's your husband called Luke.
41:36Luke's on the Jeremy car show.
41:37Give him a round of applause.
41:43Come on then, big boy.
41:49You are a little man, aren't you?
41:53Little man syndrome.
41:55Welcome to the show, Luke.
41:56I don't get this.
41:57I love, by the way, your missus has got...
41:59Oh, she's fantastic.
41:59No, but she's great and she's sitting out for a mum.
42:01I love Davina.
42:02He's a shifty as hell, this bloke, isn't he?
42:04Oh, totally.
42:05What's your...
42:05Let's give you the chance.
42:06Let's quieten this right down.
42:08Okay.
42:08Davina's listening.
42:09The audience are listening.
42:11What is your justification, Mickey?
42:12Why are you here today?
42:13What do you want to say?
42:15To tell Abigail to stay out of our relationship.
42:17Let's stop.
42:18Stop then.
42:19All right, okay.
42:24You want to stay out of it?
42:25No, no, hello, Mickey.
42:26Go for your own life.
42:27Mickey, I want to give you the chance.
42:29Excuse me.
42:30What?
42:30Leave D if you want her to stay out.
42:32D's obviously part of her life.
42:33Can I say something?
42:35I want to give you...
42:35No, I want her to stay out of our relationship.
42:37Hello.
42:37It doesn't work like that.
42:38Yes, it does.
42:38Excuse me, Luke, Luke, Davina, everybody.
42:40I want to give you the chance.
42:41You, okay?
42:42Not anybody else.
42:43Get the scowl off your face.
42:44Tell me your side of this story.
42:46Tell me.
42:47Abigail keeps interfering.
42:48Okay, so if Abigail was out of the situation...
42:52Right.
42:52What you've been accused of by her mother Davina,
42:54the Badu, the other woman,
42:56what is your answer to that?
42:57I want to give you the chance to defend...
42:58I've held my hands up for things I have done.
42:59To what?
43:00To what?
43:01Meeting the woman in Badu.
43:02Right.
43:03What happened there?
43:04I went up there because me and D had an argument.
43:07Okay.
43:07So you put your hands up to that and the big question for me will be,
43:10in a relationship,
43:11why aren't you at home trying to make it work rather than going out...
43:14That's what I am trying to do.
43:15Okay, okay, fine.
43:15She keeps interviewing me.
43:16No, no, no, no, no, drop the anger.
43:18I want to hear your side.
43:19It's important to try and do this the right way.
43:21So, the second woman,
43:24you, no shouting, no screaming, nothing from me,
43:27take me through what happened, the thought processes.
43:29You went back online to find somebody else or what?
43:32No.
43:32How did you meet the second woman?
43:33No.
43:34Wait, Davina, hold on a second.
43:34He knew her.
43:35Davina, let him speak.
43:36Right, so you went to see this woman, yes?
43:39I don't remember.
43:41Convenient.
43:43How do we know then?
43:44Davina, let me put this to you down that way a little bit.
43:46Davina, just hear me out.
43:48From the timescale of him going to meet this other woman,
43:51I can't say what you just said,
43:53how did he end up back at yours before you took him to hospital?
43:56If he didn't, he had amnesia and he didn't know who you were
43:58and had to get to your house?
43:59Or did he come back to your house, sit there and go,
44:01oh, I've got amnesia?
44:03No, I, well, he said he didn't know where he was,
44:06so I had to go and pick up his brother-in-law and his sister
44:10because he was in...
44:11and I'm no good at that area.
44:13Do you know what, actually, Davina?
44:15Davina, I'm just sitting here thinking to myself,
44:16do you know what?
44:17Actually, the first one, the second one, amnesia or not,
44:21if he's in a relationship with you,
44:22and this is why I think it comes to you,
44:25surely it's not acceptable to you that he's meeting other women.
44:27So, you know, you put up or you shut up.
44:29No, it's not.
44:30No, my love, and I'm just letting you understand what it's going.
44:33And...
44:34What do you want to do?
44:36What do you want to do?
44:38I'm with him.
44:39I'm not with him because I'm one of these women that go,
44:41I want to stay with him because I love him.
44:43I have this to put to Mickey, yeah?
44:44Well, you tell me, since we've been on the Jeremy Cole show,
44:48what have I done?
44:48Have I done any of them things, Mickey?
44:50No.
44:52No?
44:52So why have you done it to me?
44:55Well, I give you a good life, a good life.
44:59Why give this to me?
45:01So we've been together two years, and I've been faithful,
45:04I've never met up with anybody,
45:06I've just been there for you, and you've done this to me.
45:09Abigail will never, ever stop interfering.
45:12If you treated me right, she wouldn't do these things now, would she?
45:16You've only got to shut the...
45:17So, so...
45:20So, Mickey, you know, not the rest of us.
45:23You have to answer Davina like that.
45:25I'm giving you the chance, pal.
45:27Yeah, I have held my hands up.
45:29Yeah, but why?
45:30Why did you do these things?
45:33For one, we had an argument, first time.
45:36Second time, I don't...
45:37Right, so I'll go and do a thing to get an argument then, do we?
45:39I'll go and meet up with another man, because we've had an argument.
45:41You don't do that in a relationship, it's wrong.
45:44So, well, did you, first?
45:46Have you tried apologising to Davina?
45:50Yes, I have.
45:51Right?
45:52Yes, not good enough.
45:54So what's the choice then, Davina?
45:55Here's the other thing, if I swing it right.
45:56No.
45:57Here's the thing, what I have to say on this show always,
45:59and I swing it round.
46:00At the end of the day, you put up or you shut up.
46:04If his behaviour, and we can see it's unacceptable,
46:07it's disrespectful, unacceptable,
46:09in the end, you just go, do you know what?
46:11I don't want this in my life, and you move on.
46:13Or you accept...
46:14I mean, Mickey, with respect, and I've given you five minutes,
46:17I've given you a real chance,
46:19you do come across as quite shifty.
46:22It is shifty.
46:23Yeah, well, I know that.
46:23I'm trying to be nice.
46:24It is.
46:25Your girlfriend's saying it.
46:27Her daughter's saying it.
46:28Her daughter's husband's saying it.
46:29I'm saying it.
46:30If I...
46:31Let me tell you...
46:31How many people in this audience think this man's story
46:33doesn't really add up and he's a bit shifty?
46:36Well, there you go.
46:37So just in case anybody thought that it was just me,
46:39and I wasn't even looking at them.
46:41So I think what she's saying is,
46:43you can't be upset with my family being concerned for me
46:46because they love me.
46:47I think what she's saying is,
46:48you didn't treat me right.
46:49I don't know what you expect, Mickey.
46:51I hold my hands up for things I've done.
46:53Yeah, but you don't have the reasons why.
46:57That's a very good question.
46:59Do you love Davina?
47:00Yes, I do.
47:00Why are you chasing other women, then?
47:04That was a long time ago.
47:07Yeah, but it's still in the time you've been dating my mum.
47:10You weren't even around, David.
47:11Davina, we'll offer you and Mickey the support
47:13that we always offer couples after the Jeremy Kyle show's finished,
47:16but Mickey, Mickey, redirect your anger, right?
47:20We will offer you two the coupling support and help
47:23that we do for everybody, you and Davina.
47:26Hope you can get it on track.
47:27But here's one thing.
47:28You misdirect your anger at Abigail.
47:30Direct it at yourself because your behaviour, okay,
47:32and the way you've treated this woman
47:34is not only unacceptable and disrespectful.
47:37A lot of women by now would have kicked you to the curb.
47:39She wants you to get better.
47:41She wants you to treat her properly.
47:43And let me tell you something, if you don't,
47:45it won't be her, it'll be her who has to go at you.
47:47Except I help.
47:48You want that help, Davina?
47:50Yes, please.
47:51All right, darling, lovely to meet you.
47:52You go that way, you to go that way.
47:53Lovely to meet you.
47:53Thank you very much for being here.
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