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The Jeremy Kyle Show 25th March 2014

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00:01On today's show...
00:03That's the first time you've seen your potential son.
00:05That's why. He's your double mate.
00:07No, I did not refuse the DNA test.
00:09Why are the authorities saying that you did?
00:10I don't know.
00:11I've got a letter from CSA saying,
00:13Mark refused and denied the DNA test.
00:20This is a man who doubts that you're his son,
00:23slags off your mother, has never done anything.
00:26Your mother's been there for me!
00:27Whatever!
00:28She's bought us off!
00:29She's bought us off!
00:30She's bought us off!
00:31You slag his mother off!
00:33What are you doing that for?
00:34Is she...
00:35Stop!
00:36All in your notes, all you do is slag her off.
00:38You're doing it all in it before you...
00:40Shut up to be a f***ing dad!
00:42Dad, dad!
00:45How long have you been married for?
00:46A week.
00:47What a joke!
00:48I didn't come out of style on you, did I? No!
00:51There's a squabby little f***ing get away from him.
00:53CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
00:54Thank you, my friends.
00:55Good morning.
00:56As ever, a big, big welcome to the show.
00:59Thank you, my friends. Good morning and as ever a big, big welcome to the show.
01:17Now, listen, our first guest today, Mark, is here for a DNA test on his ex's baby.
01:22He says, I've never met the child and I haven't seen my ex, Kylie, in several months.
01:26In fact, when they split, he actually fled his town due to her stalking.
01:32He says, this girl is a bunny boiler.
01:35Mark is on the Jeremy Kyle Show. Give him a round of applause.
01:40How are you, Mark?
01:41That was the most positive person coming out ever.
01:45How are you? Welcome to the show. Let's do what we always do.
01:48You and Kylie... I fled town to escape my stalker ex.
01:52That's correct, yep.
01:53You and Kylie, you said it was quite casual. What do you mean?
01:56Basically, we got together. We were friends beforehand.
02:00Did she stalk you as a friend?
02:01No, no, she didn't stalk me as a friend. Met up with her on Facebook.
02:05Nice.
02:05Got called talking again. Ended up meeting up, going for a few drinks, went to the cinema.
02:09Ended up becoming an occasional scene.
02:11You're romantic.
02:12You've got to do it properly.
02:13Listening on this show, that's great. Bit of romance.
02:15And then you became lovers. You sound old-fashioned.
02:18How long were you lovers for?
02:20We were together maybe three, three months, something like two, three months.
02:24Um, you say, um, we get together, uh, we have set, I, uh, you know, I admit this happened,
02:30but very quickly she showed her true colour. She was quite paranoid. Smoked a lot of weed.
02:34That's correct, yeah. She did smoke cannabis. I didn't like the fact that she smoked cannabis.
02:37But tell him about work, cos you work.
02:39I did, yeah. I was at work. I was a warehouse supervisor. I was working in a warehouse,
02:43and she kept coming into the store to see if I was working, cos she didn't believe if I was working.
02:47If she didn't go in and see him, she made him take photographs in his uniform of him at work,
02:53so that she could be sure that he was actually there.
02:55This is all after about four weeks.
02:58That's correct.
02:58Eee, eee, eee. Slightly, slightly scary. Um, did you, um, very quickly think,
03:05I don't want to be in this?
03:07It did freak me out a little bit, yes. Um, and then, obviously, the relationship just sort of, it died.
03:12The trust issues became a real big problem.
03:14So when did you find out that she was pregnant?
03:16Um, I was actually living in Torquay at the time.
03:19Nice.
03:19She told me that she was pregnant before I left. Um, we both sat down and agreed that,
03:24obviously, we weren't together anymore and we were to have a termination.
03:27Uh, after we agreed to have the termination, D, I started getting phone calls from...
03:32I had messages from... on Facebook. Um, literally, I'd just tell them and I said to my parents,
03:38I can't do this anymore and moved away.
03:40In terms of the pregnancy, you're now in Torquay, she's pregnant, you're at LogEd.
03:44Did you get involved at all? Did you go to...
03:46No, what actually happened was it got to the point where I actually called my service provider,
03:49to have her number blocked, because it got to the point where I was getting continuous
03:52texts, continuous phone calls. Um, in the end, I got it blocked from her...
03:56Didn't she send you a scan picture? Yeah.
03:58What did the message say? Literally, it was two months after I'd left town,
04:02saying, um, this is the scan picture of our... of our son.
04:06Now, his argument is, um, the timing, the fact that she's blocked you, really,
04:13from being involved, and here's the million-dollar question.
04:15She's here today to do a DNA test on her four-month-old son, Ty, right?
04:19You say, I will do what's right, but I need to know.
04:22But you're not on the birth certificate?
04:23That's correct, yeah. Why would that be?
04:24I have no idea. I didn't... I could be honest with you,
04:26I don't know where he was born, what time he was born...
04:29Here's the bum shell.
04:31If she comes out and says you're the kid's father,
04:33he's four months of age, you've never seen the kid?
04:35That's correct.
04:36Never? Never.
04:38Did you know when she gave birth?
04:39No.
04:39This is even weirder.
04:41Didn't you get a phone call from another guy?
04:43Yes, I did.
04:44I was at home with a family member,
04:46and I got a phone call on an anonymous call
04:48saying that they had done a DNA test together,
04:51it had come back positive,
04:52and I was not calling Kylie anymore
04:54because he was going to look after the child.
04:56Right.
04:57So she used to be extremely paranoid because of the weed
05:00and used to insist that you, you know,
05:02were at work, photos, or she'd pitch up.
05:05She drops the bum shell a week after you split.
05:08You move away because it becomes overpowering.
05:11You say, if it's mine, I'll do whatever.
05:12She blocks you completely.
05:13She doesn't tell you when the child's born.
05:15She doesn't put your name on the birth certificate.
05:17She talked about a termination.
05:19You are here today to say,
05:21if this child is mine, he's four months of age,
05:23I haven't seen him.
05:24I will step up, but I need some fat.
05:25Well, are you saying she's a fantasist?
05:27If that's what you want to call it.
05:29Let's get her out.
05:30Kylie's on the Jeremy Kyle Show, that way.
05:39Kylie, welcome to the show.
05:41You told my team he's ignoring me and the baby.
05:44Yeah, he has, and he knew when I was having a baby,
05:46and he even come to one of my scans with me as well,
05:49when I had my daughter with me as well,
05:52and we can even contact the hospital for that.
05:54Let's go back to the relationship.
05:55Why on earth would you go to work to check out that he's there,
05:58or to insist on...
05:59You know what, I've never gone to...
06:00I went to his workplace when we were together,
06:02and he told me to come down,
06:03but I've never been to his workplace to...
06:05Five times you came to my work,
06:06because my supervisor actually asked you to leave the store.
06:08Do you know, that is a lie.
06:10Swear on your daughter's life.
06:11I swear on my daughter's life.
06:12Well, that's sad, mate,
06:13because your supervisor's never told me to leave,
06:15and I've never been down your workplace.
06:16Are you a stalker?
06:18No, I'm not.
06:18He's a compulsive liar.
06:19I'd like to know when you got the actual thing
06:20where I came to a scan.
06:22I was living in Torquay.
06:23I've never been to any scan.
06:24When did you come back from Torquay?
06:25I never came back from Torquay.
06:25You come to a scan with me?
06:26No, I have not had any contact with you.
06:28Her argument is that actually that you raised the point of termination.
06:32She says that I was going to do that.
06:34I'd made that decision.
06:35It was you who talked her out of it.
06:37It was you who said that you would support her,
06:39and that's why she went ahead and had the baby.
06:41The reason why he went Torquay,
06:42because when I was pregnant with him,
06:44we split up because he was getting back with his ex-missus.
06:47So we split up...
06:48Talking of which,
06:48why were you having sex with him
06:49when you were in a relationship with somebody?
06:51I wasn't in a relationship with no one.
06:53I was with no one.
06:53You had your ex-partner living with you.
06:55He wasn't living with me.
06:56He stayed at my house.
06:57Were you sleeping with him at the same time?
06:59Never.
06:59Any doubt in your mind?
07:00Any doubt in your mind
07:01that Mark's the father of Ty?
07:03Mark is the father of Ty.
07:03Then why the hell is his name
07:05not on the birth certificate, love?
07:06Because he didn't want to come with me
07:07when I registered him.
07:08You can do it without him.
07:09What?
07:10You can do it without him.
07:11Yeah, no, you can't.
07:12You can't put the father's name
07:13on a birth certificate
07:14if you're not married
07:15and they're not with you.
07:16Listen, I don't...
07:16I'm not here to say I believe you
07:18or I believe him.
07:18I mean, I've sat in front of women
07:20who have made pregnancies up.
07:21I've sat in front of blokes
07:22who don't bother.
07:23What do you want?
07:24Why are you here today?
07:25He didn't bother, though.
07:25What he's saying is out of total, yeah?
07:28So the four months that he tells us,
07:31I haven't been able to see this kid
07:32because she's made it very difficult.
07:34Because he didn't want to know.
07:35That's absolutely crap.
07:36That's crap.
07:36It is.
07:37No, you're talking...
07:38You were continuously texting me.
07:40You were continuously phoning me.
07:41I'd had enough to the point
07:42where I'd actually gone in contact
07:43with my service provider
07:44because you just would not leave it alone.
07:46No, because you got back
07:47and then you didn't want to know
07:49no more, so you blocked it off.
07:50You then decided to go through
07:51You're a compulsive liar.
07:53Why didn't you do the DNA test for CSA?
07:55I did offer to do the DNA test for CSA.
07:57No, you didn't. You refused it.
07:59No, I didn't refuse it.
07:59This is another lie.
08:00He refused it.
08:00Do you want to see that?
08:01I've got a letter from CSA saying
08:04Mark refused and denied the DNA test.
08:08Another lie.
08:09I haven't refused anything.
08:10Another lie, Mark.
08:11Another lie.
08:12You are a compulsive liar.
08:14Everything you've come out and said
08:15is a lie, mate.
08:16Well, I don't know why
08:16they've written it down before.
08:17This letter says,
08:18having looked at the evidence available,
08:20and this is from the CSA, right,
08:23having looked at the evidence available,
08:24we have decided that we can assume
08:26that Mark is Ty's parent.
08:28This is because
08:29they have refused to take a DNA test.
08:32I did not refuse at all.
08:33I was waiting for the letter to come true.
08:35This means that you are required
08:35to pay child maintenance for Ty.
08:37We will now work out
08:38your child maintenance payments for Ty.
08:39We'll contact you about these separately.
08:41They say,
08:41your parentage dispute,
08:43their decision is the information
08:44they gather,
08:45they believe that you're Ty's father.
08:46I did not have...
08:47They said to me...
08:47I'm just reading what's there.
08:48Yeah, no, I understand that.
08:49I respect that.
08:49But I had a letter
08:50and I made a phone call to the CSA.
08:51Talk to her, not me, mate.
08:53I made a phone call to the CSA
08:54and said to them,
08:55can I have a letter?
08:55I need to go to my GP.
08:57They need a letter of confirmation.
08:58Do you think the child's yours?
08:59They said to me they would send that out.
08:59It is his.
09:00They then turned around and said to me...
09:01Tight, it is his.
09:02They then turned around and said to me
09:04that they were having complications with you
09:05because you was messing around.
09:06Are you sure you didn't freak out
09:07because a bird,
09:08don't just take this the wrong way,
09:09that you had a bit of casual sex with,
09:11suddenly rocked up
09:12and said that you're pregnant,
09:12you wanted to get back with an ex,
09:14you rushed off to Torquay,
09:15whatever happened to your life happened,
09:17you buried your head in the sand
09:18and suddenly we're on the Jeremy Kyle show
09:19with a baby four months of age
09:21who hasn't seen its father.
09:22Isn't that actually more likely to be the truth?
09:24No, not at all
09:25because I've already turned around and said
09:26if he's my son,
09:27I would happily do anything I can.
09:28Do you also tell my team I hope he's not mine?
09:30In a way, it would be easier
09:31if he wasn't mine
09:32because I haven't seen him,
09:33I don't know nothing about him
09:34because his mum won't let me.
09:36His mum put a barrier in my way,
09:37has told my family members,
09:39all my family,
09:39that if I want to see him,
09:41it ain't going to happen.
09:41I spoke to you on Facebook,
09:44at that time
09:44and I said if you wanted to see him,
09:45she can come along with you.
09:46How sure are you that Ty is Mark's?
09:48101% mate.
09:50Yeah?
09:50Yep.
09:51Do you remember that?
09:52You worked, didn't you?
09:53And there was a supervisor.
09:55That's correct, yeah.
09:56Who allegedly
09:56got,
09:58was angry with you
09:59because she kept rocking up.
10:00Say, you deny that.
10:02He's not the supervisor here,
10:03Sam's on the Jeremy Kyle show.
10:10Take me back to when he was working,
10:12you were the supervisor.
10:13Was she this stalker or what?
10:15She came in the shop at least five times.
10:18I was on the shop floor.
10:20I come there once when Mark was working there.
10:22Why are you lying for him?
10:23You've had your say,
10:23all right?
10:24You've come up to me when I was at work,
10:26asking where Mark was.
10:27I said,
10:27Mark's in the warehouse,
10:28where he's meant to be.
10:30Yeah.
10:30And then you wouldn't go.
10:31Because he told me to meet him there that day.
10:33I had to get Mark to stick his head out
10:34so you knew he was at work
10:35and he wasn't lying to you
10:36and where he was.
10:37He asked me to meet him down there that day
10:39when we were together.
10:40That was once.
10:41Maybe after work,
10:42but not during work.
10:42I was with Mark
10:44when he told you he was at work.
10:46He cannot speak to you.
10:47You cannot come in and see him
10:49because we had the big delivery to do.
10:50I've got loads of texts.
10:52It's all saved on my phone still, mate.
10:53And in regards to Mark being a dad,
10:57how can you say he definitely is
10:58when you had sleeping at your house
11:01when you was with Mark?
11:02I wasn't with him.
11:03He was sleeping on the sofa.
11:04That's my baby's...
11:05That's my baby's...
11:06How do you know you didn't have sex with him?
11:08Because I wouldn't, mate.
11:09We haven't been together.
11:10I haven't had sex with that man
11:11in about two years.
11:11Right, let's do this
11:12because we're going to go to a break.
11:13We've got a guy who came out
11:15and said I had a casual relationship
11:17with this woman.
11:17I admit we had unprotected sex.
11:19I got rid of her
11:20because the relationship was too much for me.
11:22She was paranoid.
11:22She rocks up a week later and says,
11:24you're the father of my baby.
11:26I can't get to see this kid.
11:27I know nothing about the truth.
11:28I've moved away.
11:29The kid is four months of age.
11:30If I am the father, it's I, I'll do everything.
11:32But actually, I don't know the truth.
11:33And I've come here today.
11:35By the way, says he,
11:36I'm not on the birth certificate.
11:37You say, hold on a second.
11:38It's you.
11:39It's you taught me out of a termination.
11:40It's you said you'd support me.
11:42Then you've done one
11:42to run off to some other bird.
11:44And our son, that's what she's saying,
11:46has missed out.
11:46You say, how sure are you
11:47that he's the father?
11:49101%.
11:49What about you?
11:50I don't know.
11:50I'm 50-50.
11:51All-important DNA results next.
11:53I'm right back, my friends.
11:54Do you read it if you need it?
11:55Look.
11:56That's the first time
11:57you've seen your potential son.
11:59That's right.
11:59He's your double, mate.
12:00The DNA test results show that Mark...
12:06This is a man who doubts
12:08that you're his son,
12:09slags off your mother,
12:10has never done anything.
12:11You've never been there for me!
12:12Whatever!
12:13These bottles all...
12:14Can somebody give me
12:14those DNA results, please?
12:21Do you need to find out
12:23who is the father of the baby?
12:24Do you need a DNA test?
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12:52Thank you, mate, friends.
12:58Welcome back before the break.
12:59Talking to Mark,
13:00his ex, Kylie,
13:01his mate, Sam.
13:02One of the things
13:03that they both said
13:04and one of the things
13:04that we didn't really touch upon
13:06in the first part
13:06was that you were very paranoid,
13:08you were stalker-ish,
13:09excuse the phrase,
13:10because you smoke a lot of dope.
13:12No, I used to smoke it
13:14a couple of years ago
13:15and even when I was with him
13:16in a relationship,
13:17I didn't smoke it, mate.
13:18Sam says that you smoked it
13:19in front of your kids.
13:20No, I don't even smoke cigarettes
13:22in front of my kids.
13:23I smoke them outside.
13:24How would you have been to my house?
13:26You haven't met my children?
13:27When I see you walking downtown,
13:28no, why are you chatting
13:28so much with inmates?
13:30When you see you walking downtown,
13:31no, I don't, yeah?
13:32You stink off weed.
13:33You are such a liar.
13:35You are such a liar.
13:36What have I got to lie about?
13:37Why is it I see you up my seat
13:39all the time
13:39and you're like, hello,
13:40like, wave and smile
13:41and now you're here chatting about me?
13:43What?
13:44Because I walk past you
13:45and you smell a weed?
13:46No, I don't, mate.
13:47You're lying little tramp, mate.
13:48That's all you are.
13:49Yeah, you shouldn't even be
13:51sitting here trying to make lies
13:53up with him,
13:53trying to make me look like
13:54the bad one.
13:55Why are you going so quiet, Mark?
13:56At the end of the day,
13:57this is all pathetic.
13:58We need to work together.
13:59If Ty is my son,
14:00I will walk the earth
14:03to see my son.
14:04I've tried that with you.
14:05I've wanted you to see Ty.
14:07Am I not bugging?
14:07No, you haven't.
14:08Look at that.
14:09Do you really need a DNA test?
14:10Look.
14:11Do you really need a DNA test?
14:12That's the first time.
14:14That's the first time
14:15you've seen your potential son.
14:16That's your double, mate.
14:17You really need that DNA test.
14:20Come on, Mark.
14:20I want the truth.
14:21Did you...
14:21It's gorgeous.
14:23Did you refuse a DNA test?
14:25No, I did not refuse a DNA test.
14:27Why are the authorities saying that you did?
14:28I don't know.
14:29I had a letter come through my house
14:30and I said to them
14:31I would do the DNA test.
14:33They said to me
14:33they would send a letter out
14:34so I could take you to my GP.
14:35Who rang the show to find out the truth?
14:36Me.
14:37Why didn't you if you were so bothered?
14:38Because I don't see
14:39I should be doing my dirty laundry.
14:41I just feel it's unfair for Ty.
14:42But maybe you should have pitched up
14:43and done a DNA test elsewhere
14:45because if somebody said to me
14:46I'm not having a go at you
14:46there is even a 1% chance
14:48you're the father of a baby
14:49I'd want to know from day one
14:51for the sake of that little nipper.
14:52Isn't that right?
14:52Yeah, yeah.
14:53So why didn't you do this
14:54three and a half months ago then?
14:55Because I haven't had the chance.
14:56When I got back in contact with...
14:57Why didn't she come to this show
14:58to do this?
14:59Unless she was...
15:00How sure are you?
15:01101%.
15:02101%.
15:03You can even just tell by the picture
15:04just by looking.
15:05And if he is, what happens?
15:06You said that was what you must work together.
15:07I spoke to the people
15:08from DNA people
15:09and they turned around and said to me
15:10they were waiting on Kylie
15:11and then they turned around and said...
15:13You also said it would be easier
15:14if he wasn't your kid.
15:14It would be easier.
15:15Why?
15:15Because I had no input.
15:16I don't know anything about the child.
15:17Well, thank God we're doing this now.
15:19So have you had no contact
15:19because you haven't made enough effort
15:21because you buried your head in the sand
15:22or because she's being particularly...
15:23She's been an absolute...
15:24If he was my son, I would have done this a long time ago
15:27and we wouldn't be sitting here right now.
15:29So, 101%.
15:30You're 50-50, yeah?
15:31What about you, Sam, the supervisor?
15:3250-50.
15:33All right, let's do those all-important DNA results, please.
15:36This is about Ty.
15:37Five months of age, I beg your pardon, not four.
15:39Whatever the rights and wrongs of this situation...
15:41I'll give you it after so I can give it to Ty when he's older.
15:43If you are the child's father,
15:45it's fundamentally wrong, of course,
15:47that you haven't been able to see him
15:48for four and a half, five months.
15:52Five months and three weeks.
15:52Was this a serious relationship
15:54or a casual relationship?
15:55It was just like casual.
15:56It was only to give her for a couple of months.
15:57The DNA test results show that Mark...
16:00Is the biological father.
16:01Sorry?
16:02Is.
16:02She's right.
16:03That's your child, pal.
16:07Now this has been done,
16:09now this has been done,
16:10can I please see him?
16:12Well, after saying all these lies...
16:13Sam, you can take her...
16:14Give her a round of applause.
16:15No, I haven't.
16:17No, I haven't.
16:18No, I haven't.
16:19What you need to understand in that,
16:20there is a child in the middle of it.
16:21We don't have to have anything.
16:23I've got this trouble just to get a DNA test
16:24and I'll try to get it through CSA and everything.
16:26No, I agree...
16:27What did you do wrong, Mark?
16:28I'll give this to Tom,
16:29but when he's older...
16:29What did I do wrong?
16:30Hold on a second, listen to me.
16:31Listen, listen, listen.
16:31You're all right, just listen.
16:34Hands on heart here.
16:35Yeah?
16:36What mistakes did you make?
16:38I could have...
16:38I've made loads of mistakes.
16:40I haven't been there.
16:40I could have done more.
16:41I'm not saying I didn't.
16:42But now he's...
16:43What's the first thing out of your trap
16:44should have been three minutes ago?
16:45I apologise, I'm sorry.
16:46Listen to him.
16:48And now I know I have a son,
16:50I'd like to be involved with his life.
16:51I know I've missed out five months of his life.
16:53Now, I believe, actually,
16:54and I've said this many times before on this show,
16:57I read things and then people come out
16:59and it's very different.
17:01And when he was out bandying that
17:04she's a stalker phrase,
17:05it's very easy to paint a picture.
17:07I think you've come out here
17:08and done your son a huge amount of justice.
17:10He looks great, by the way.
17:12He does, yeah.
17:13I don't like him, like, unfortunately,
17:14but they're looking.
17:16Well, yeah, here we go.
17:17That's what happens if you have unprotected sex.
17:19But here's the thing.
17:21I don't believe that you would be here
17:23unless you wanted to sort this for Ty.
17:25I...
17:26To the bottom of my heart,
17:29the one thing that does my head in more than anything
17:31is when kids, male or female,
17:32use a kid as a weapon, right?
17:34I'm not saying that you're going to go,
17:36yes, it's fine, we're going to be this, that and the other.
17:38But you actually do want him involved
17:40and here's a real test thing.
17:41Well, then instead of understandably
17:44and rather stroppily saying you can't,
17:46will you just let us facilitate this, right?
17:49Because him, he...
17:52Ty.
17:52Deserves to know.
17:54And if his father, look at me,
17:55is a complete deadlock,
17:56he runs off to Tolkien or whatever
17:57and sticks his head in the sand, right?
17:59That's not going to be...
18:00No, I'm not saying it is.
18:01Then at least you can say to Ty,
18:03as much as you can show him that,
18:04hey, I'll see that?
18:05I gave him a chance and your dad let you down.
18:06What worries me about these stories is
18:08if you don't because you're hacked off,
18:10which I sort of understand,
18:11I wouldn't want him to grow up and take it out on you.
18:13He's a good-looking kid.
18:14Do I think...
18:15Do I think he can step up?
18:17Absolutely.
18:18I do.
18:19And I think that the best thing about this story is
18:21you're not screaming and shouting,
18:22the both of you are all right,
18:23you're a bit older.
18:24It's about him.
18:25Let me...
18:26I agree.
18:26Let me...
18:27get him to prove to you
18:30in a situation that makes you feel content.
18:32He'll say all this now,
18:34but then it will be different.
18:35And then you've got it.
18:37I did try.
18:37Oi!
18:38You've got him on national television
18:39saying he's going to step up and be a dad
18:41and if he lets your son Ty down,
18:43you've done the best that any mother can do.
18:46Seriously.
18:46He'll let him down for five and a half months.
18:48Because I haven't had that chance.
18:49Give me that chance now and let me be a dad.
18:53Let him meet his son now for three minutes.
18:55Listen to me.
18:55And then Ty will be with the childminders
18:58and you two will sit with Graham
18:59on your terms, massively it has to be on her terms.
19:01Yeah, I agree.
19:02A situation whereby even...
19:03Whatever it is, however it's worked out,
19:06that you're happy with, that you're safe with
19:07and let's see if he can prove it
19:09because I actually think he will
19:11and I'm quite pleased we can get rid of this blockage.
19:14Let's have a go for the sake of Ty, yeah?
19:16Do you want to meet your son?
19:17Yes, please.
19:17Say thank you first and foremost.
19:19As parents, no more arguments that way.
19:22No more arguments.
19:28Have you got any other kids?
19:30Me, yeah, I have a daughter.
19:31Right.
19:32This is your first son, your biological son.
19:34Thank you, by the way.
19:35And can I say before we go in?
19:37He's a good mum.
19:38Yeah, I've never dealt with him as a parent.
19:39Never, I wouldn't doubt him as a parent.
19:41I don't know, you have to say, you know?
19:42He's your son.
19:44Hello, mama's father.
19:46Hello, mate.
19:46It's just won't enough.
19:48Are you getting it?
19:49Yeah, is that all right?
19:50Yeah.
19:51Hello, mate.
19:53Good luck.
19:54Hello, mate.
19:54Your mum did good by you today.
20:07She did.
20:08And I actually think to be able to stand here and look at this, I think you'll be all right
20:12as well.
20:12Yeah.
20:12You have to remember, that's your mum.
20:14You have to remember the most important thing is Ty, okay?
20:17Absolutely.
20:17We work.
20:18Absolutely.
20:18We'll work with you to ensure that we can arrange something that works.
20:22Do you know the one thing, very quietly doing this?
20:25There's too many kids like him who...
20:27They lose out and they don't know who their parents are.
20:28You can be a good dad.
20:29Absolutely.
20:30You can be a great mum.
20:31You don't have to have anything.
20:32Just be civil for his sake, yeah?
20:34Mm-hmm.
20:34And she's right.
20:35Not your friends, not your friends.
20:36You too, with our help, be adult for the sake of Ty, yeah?
20:39I will.
20:39Thank you so much for coming on.
20:41Good luck, all right?
20:42You're a lucky man.
20:43You found your dad.
20:43Give me a round of applause.
20:51You know, I actually think that they are mature enough to put aside any angst and concentrate
20:56on Ty.
20:57I hope he can be a good dad.
20:58And she, blessed her for coming to the show, has proven to him.
21:02Fingers crossed we'll keep you updated.
21:03Right.
21:03My next guest today, Adam, describes his dad, Stephen, as useless and says he hopes a paternity
21:07test today will finally get him to start acting like a real father.
21:11Heart goes out to this young man.
21:13Big round of applause for Adam, ladies and gentlemen.
21:18How are you?
21:19How are you?
21:21Bless your heart.
21:22Listen, this story is really, for me, the sort of story that we should be doing on the
21:28Jeremy Kyle Show.
21:29You're 18 years of age.
21:32I want to hear the story about Stephen.
21:34Um, you say, today I want to prove that he is my dad and I want the bloke to just give
21:41me something.
21:42Tell us, tell us growing up.
21:43Tell us the story, Ed.
21:44Well, I've been growing up and, um, he's kept saying that he's not my dad.
21:48So, so, growing up, your mum, Katrina, um, what would she say?
21:52Would she say your dad's not around?
21:53What, what was the situation?
21:54He's never been around for us.
21:56He's not even my brother.
21:57He's never been there for us.
21:58What's the first time you remember seeing him?
22:00Um, ages ago now.
22:03I can't remember when.
22:05You tracked him down yourself, um, when you were 16.
22:09And I read this appalling thing this morning that said that on many occasions in public,
22:14to your face, he said, I'm not your dad.
22:15Yeah.
22:16When he's had a beer thing, he's not my dad.
22:18Birthday cards, Christmas?
22:19Never got birthday cards, never got Christmas cards, no presents, nothing.
22:23We had to get in contact with him.
22:24He never rang us.
22:26And doesn't all this guy do is badmouth your mum?
22:28Yeah, yeah, he calls her every name under the sun.
22:32Said that, oh, she, he went to prison.
22:36He went to prison, and then when he come out, I were born, and he's saying, oh, no, it can't be mine.
22:41It's not my kid.
22:42So, this is a man who doubts that you're his son, slags off your mother, has never done anything.
22:50And I read, bless you.
22:51But my mum's been there all the time.
22:53And I read this from this kid.
22:54He went, I don't want his money, I just want to understand why he's never loved me.
22:57Yeah.
22:58What's wrong with this bloke?
22:59What is he, an alcoholic, a thief?
23:01What is he?
23:01What's wrong with him?
23:01He's an alcoholic.
23:02Is he?
23:03Yeah, he drinks a lot.
23:05There are people, to be fair, who would watch this and go, and I'm just being honest with you,
23:10why the hell would you bother with such an horrible man who doesn't seem to be able to know?
23:14Because I'm just really knowing what that is.
23:17Your brother Liam's in the audience.
23:19He's never doubted you.
23:20Have you got a relationship with this guy, though?
23:22Well, it's just the same, obviously.
23:24I do the best I can.
23:25Has he been any sort of doubt at all?
23:27Well, he's tried his best, I think.
23:29You think he's tied his breast?
23:31Obviously, he could do better.
23:32He could do better.
23:33Well, this is an example of him having done his best, is it?
23:35No.
23:37Do you feel sorry for your brother?
23:38Yeah.
23:40What do you expect?
23:40I feel sorry for him all.
23:42What?
23:42I feel sorry for him all.
23:43Don't even look that bothered.
23:47What does this mean to you today?
23:49It means I just want to know who my dad is.
23:52And it's like I go around saying that he's my dad.
23:54He's not my dad.
23:55Well, listen, it's obviously nothing whatsoever to do with him, but I think you've turned out really well.
23:59I think you talk about it fantastically.
24:02I mean that.
24:03Right.
24:05After the break, we've got him, 40-year-old Stephen, who drinks a bit and has spent years to your face at 18 saying,
24:12I'm not your dad.
24:13We've got DNA and we've got your mother, Katrina.
24:15Hang in there.
24:15We're back in three minutes.
24:16Don't go anywhere.
24:18F***.
24:19You've never been there for me.
24:21Get the f*** off me now.
24:22You've never been there for me.
24:31It's all to do with Adam, not you.
24:32That's his mother.
24:33Can somebody give me those DNA results, please?
24:37How long have you been married for?
24:39A week.
24:39What a joke.
24:41Why are you married when you...
24:42Why is your wife married to you after what you've done?
24:45Do you think you're one of these?
24:46Do you think you're one of these?
24:46I've got my friends.
24:47Hopefully, the next idiot that you come across won't believe as much, though.
24:59We'll have watched the wonderful Jeremy Kyle.
25:01If you want to tell me anything, come out of the toilet now or we're done.
25:07What about the prostitution?
25:09Selling a baby's pram for crap.
25:11What about the prostitution?
25:13Oh.
25:15Oh, yeah.
25:17Oh, yeah.
25:19Britain's worst one, you're dived and shaved.
25:22What are you doing here?
25:23You want your five minutes of face?
25:27We're not chasing you this time.
25:29Does his face look bothered?
25:30Bothered.
25:30Discuss me at the Jeremy Cole show.
25:34That's why I'm standing there.
25:35This is why you're standing there.
25:48Have you been accused of cheating?
25:49Do you need to prove your innocence with a lie detector?
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26:23Thank you very much, Lee.
26:24Welcome back for the break.
26:25Really impressive young man, Adam, 18.
26:27Um, Katrina, your mum, Liam, your brother.
26:30Today is about, is Stephen my dad?
26:32You say he's 40 years of age.
26:33He's said many things to me over the years.
26:36Mostly, you're not mine.
26:37He's not really been there.
26:38He's not been supportive.
26:39He even looks like he thinks it's a bit of a joke, doesn't he?
26:42And I said to you something that most people would understand.
26:44Why would you want to bother?
26:45And you say, because I want the truth.
26:48You have to say this, okay?
26:49You ready?
26:50This is Stephen on the Jeremy Kyle show, ladies and gentlemen.
26:52You've never been there for me.
26:59You've never been there for me.
27:02Where's the birthday card?
27:04Where's the rest and stuff?
27:05Where's everything?
27:06Your mum stopped me from seeing you.
27:08My mum loves everything.
27:10Whatever.
27:10She's brought us up.
27:11She's brought us up.
27:13She's what?
27:15She's been there for me.
27:16What are you?
27:18Where the hell have you been for the last 18 years, then?
27:21I've told you where I've been.
27:23Oh, wait.
27:23Wait.
27:24Wait.
27:24Superdad's going to speak.
27:26Go on.
27:26Yeah, I've been.
27:27Where have you been?
27:27Prison?
27:28Yeah.
27:28Well, stop breaking the law, you odious human being.
27:33Where have you been?
27:34Where have I been?
27:35Yeah.
27:36What about this kid?
27:37Where have you been?
27:38She's stopped me from...
27:39Of course she has, yeah?
27:40It's all her fault.
27:41Yeah.
27:42But you could have still gotten contact with me.
27:44You want to stop you?
27:45I'll give you phone numbers.
27:46Mum's give you a gesture.
27:48No, she ain't.
27:49Yes, she has.
27:49No, she ain't.
27:50She has.
27:50She told us.
27:51She ain't.
27:51She gives you every gesture since we've moved her.
27:54No.
27:54Have you really done enough for him?
27:56Well, I've been there sort of...
27:5811 years you didn't bother with this kid.
28:01Let's get the mother out.
28:02Katrina's on the...
28:03Don't do me a...
28:04Oh, no!
28:04Oh, no!
28:06Oh, no!
28:06Oh, no!
28:07Oh, no!
28:07Oh, no!
28:08Oh, no!
28:08Oh, no!
28:09Oh, no!
28:10Oh, no!
28:11Oh, no!
28:12Oh, no!
28:13Oh, no!
28:14Oh, no!
28:15Oh, no!
28:15See, he's not doing that bother, that he's walking away.
28:18Where's he gone?
28:19Where's he gone?
28:20He's just walking away, so he's not bothered, so he don't want to hear the truth.
28:22Why would he rather...
28:23Why, just come back!
28:25Eh?
28:26It's all to do with Adam, not you.
28:28Eh?
28:29It's all to do with Adam, not you.
28:30That's his mother.
28:31You slag his mother off.
28:32What are you doing that for?
28:34I'm not slagging you off.
28:35This s***, son!
28:37All in your notes, all you do is slag her off.
28:39And he's got two ball patches.
28:41And you're doing her on her before you beat her...
28:43If you've had that on her, you're doing her on her.
28:44Before you hear that, if you're about to...
28:45He's stuck up to be a f***ing dad!
28:47That's all he wants!
28:50Do you know what he said in his notes?
28:52Yeah.
28:52You called the mother a prostitute.
28:53Welcome to the show, by the way.
28:55What sort of low life are you, really?
28:57I'm not a low life.
28:58Then why haven't you been there for your kid?
29:01Why do you slag the mother off?
29:02Maybe because we don't come out soon soon.
29:04So let me get this as a role model.
29:06You went to prison, you drink a lot, you slag your son off.
29:09No, I don't drink a lot.
29:09Oh, really?
29:10No.
29:11Well, then what have you done with your life at 40, then?
29:13Do you work?
29:13No.
29:14No.
29:15Have you paid for this, Charles?
29:17No.
29:18You spent your money on your booze, didn't you?
29:20No.
29:21Don't deserve to be a father.
29:22Not in a million years.
29:23I don't even understand why this kid would want or even believe that he should waste his
29:28time, but he does.
29:29Because you know what?
29:30You know what?
29:31Because we love him.
29:32I don't care if he's not been there, I still love him, me.
29:34Even if he's not been there, I still love him.
29:35I'm not disagreeing with you, but he's in a mess.
29:37I know that, obviously.
29:38We know that.
29:39We know that.
29:40I just want to hear it.
29:41If this DNA comes back, like he's my dad, I want him to start coming to see us.
29:45And what if he doesn't?
29:46Then I don't want nothing to do with him.
29:48If he can't be bothered to get the chain down to come and see me, well...
29:51You don't send him a car.
29:52I don't want nothing to do with him.
29:53You don't send him a car for his birthday, you know?
29:55Do you know what?
29:56Do you know what?
29:57Do you know what?
29:58Do you know what's doing my birthday's on?
29:59When's his birthday?
30:00Four...fifth...
30:01No.
30:02Four...
30:03So you don't even know his birthday, do you?
30:04Yeah.
30:05Do you understand how devastated this guy is?
30:07Yeah, I do.
30:08Well, then why haven't you done something about it?
30:10He's a little bit older, but he says...
30:11And all your family.
30:12He slagged my mother off.
30:13He hasn't been...
30:14He's...
30:15Do you know what's the worst thing about a story like this?
30:17Yeah.
30:18Is that they'll end up bitter and twisted.
30:19I mean, he's still at a point where he wants to...
30:21Of course, she's angry.
30:22You ran from her.
30:23She's been there for them both, hasn't she?
30:25I'll call one for him.
30:27Oh, do me a favour.
30:28Yeah, but I must have come as well.
30:29That's his mother who's been bringing him up.
30:31Well, you've been in the nick or in the pub or just in your own world.
30:34She's been there for him.
30:36Of course, he's going to support her.
30:38You don't deserve kids, mate.
30:40Does my head in.
30:41Can somebody give me those DNA results, please?
30:43At this point, you don't even know if you're four brothers, right?
30:46Yes, obviously, we're at this...
30:48Might be half of the...
30:49I'm still classing with my brother, obviously.
30:50Are you close?
30:51Yeah, yeah, yeah.
30:52We've got class now.
30:53To us, there's an injustice that this guy hasn't been around and he hasn't bothered.
30:57You look like you've...
30:58You've just learned to accept it.
30:59Yeah, yeah, I've learned to accept it.
31:01Obviously, you have to get on in life.
31:03But he's at an age where...
31:04Obviously, I just don't want to do the same mistakes as what he did.
31:08If I have a son or a daughter, I don't want to do the same.
31:11And how's your man turned out?
31:13Is he all right or is this something...
31:14Mark, my brother.
31:15Yeah.
31:16Is this something that...
31:17Well, he upsets him all the time.
31:18He upsets him.
31:19I try at night.
31:20He tries at night, obviously.
31:21He wants to know who his daddy is, don't he?
31:22Obviously.
31:23Do you want Stephen to be your dad?
31:26Well, yeah.
31:27Yeah.
31:28But I just want him to come and see me and just be supported.
31:32I don't think he did it.
31:34I don't know.
31:35He's a kid, really.
31:37Not really, Liam.
31:38I don't agree with you.
31:39He's made his bed.
31:40I just don't think that any kid should have to be on national television at 18.
31:44Just seemingly, if we think about this, begging his father to show him attention.
31:50I know you all think I come from a different planet, but I've got four kids.
31:55I wouldn't give a rat's backside if I had no clothes, no money, no house.
32:01The only thing in my life that means more to me than anything.
32:04Anything.
32:05I've got four kids.
32:06If I ever thought that my kids thought that I was a waste of space or a no good deadbeat
32:11dad, that would kill me and eat me up inside.
32:14You took money off me when you...
32:16You took money off me.
32:17Remember?
32:18He was supposed to take him to Disney World.
32:20I got a passport.
32:21You got a passport for a Liam.
32:22Yeah?
32:23And you didn't even take...
32:24You promised him you'd take him to Disney World.
32:26Did you?
32:27Yeah?
32:28But you didn't.
32:29You took somebody else's child.
32:30Oh.
32:31I've heard it all now.
32:32You run off with somebody else's child.
32:35Not your own children.
32:37What do you want to say to me?
32:40I'm so upset about that.
32:41It hurts me inside.
32:43I don't want to say nothing.
32:44I just want to know if he is or not.
32:46It would be easier if he wasn't.
32:49But as we said, this is about you being full brothers or not.
32:54Are you all right, Lee?
32:55Sure?
32:56What do you think?
32:58100%.
32:59Not 100%.
33:00110%.
33:01How about you?
33:0250.
33:0350.
33:04DNA test results show that you...
33:06How sure were you?
33:07100%.
33:08What about you?
33:0950.
33:10Another mistake in your little life.
33:11Of course he's your child.
33:12Yes.
33:13Oh!
33:14Told you dinner!
33:15I don't understand that.
33:17Adam.
33:18Adam.
33:19Adam.
33:20Come here.
33:21Adam.
33:22Come here.
33:23Adam.
33:24Adam.
33:25Adam.
33:26Come here.
33:27Adam.
33:28Adam.
33:29Come here.
33:30Come here.
33:31Where is he?
33:32Where is he?
33:41Right?
33:42Sorry.
33:43I don't know.
33:44I'm sorry.
33:45Por..
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34:00Per..
34:01The opening gambit from you might well be, Stephen.
34:14I should have been there for him.
34:17And I have to say, I think you're quite lucky,
34:20because there's a lot of kids at 18 and a little bit older
34:23that would have really not given you the time of day.
34:26Listen, the one thing this show always said it would do
34:28is if people want to change their lives,
34:31you have to acknowledge what you've done wrong,
34:33and they will help you move forward.
34:34You have to understand this will not be an easy path.
34:37This kid, look, he's terrified, but he came here,
34:41he's so desperate to get the truth,
34:42and that should be every catalyst you need, OK?
34:46Fair play to you for coming after him and saying,
34:48sorry, a lot of work ahead, but he wanted this, OK?
34:52Graham over there and the team will work with you.
34:54This isn't going to happen overnight, OK?
34:56Is this what you wanted?
34:57Yeah.
34:57Don't expect too much and just one thing.
35:00Think Disney World and don't make promises to your kids
35:04that you can't keep.
35:05You are a credit, young man, to your mother.
35:07The four of them will go to Graham that way.
35:09Give them a round of applause.
35:10Good luck.
35:11All right?
35:11See you later.
35:15Nice young man.
35:16I hope they can get it sorted.
35:17We'll keep you updated.
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35:24I recently met Emma and her fiancé, Dan,
35:27when she asked him to take a lie detector test
35:29on the Jeremy Kyle show.
35:31Take a look at this, my friends.
35:32We asked Dan, since the start of your relationship
35:34with Emma in November,
35:35have you had sexual intercourse with any other person?
35:38He said no.
35:38Why'd you say no?
35:39Telling the truth.
35:40Because, of course, he was telling the truth,
35:41ladies and gentlemen.
35:47Happy?
35:48Since the start of your relationship with Emma in November,
35:49have you passionately kissed any other person?
35:51You said no.
35:51Why'd you say no?
35:52I was telling you to...
35:53Test says you're a liar, pal.
35:56What?
35:57Test says you're lying.
35:59I've not.
36:00But you didn't have sex with them.
36:01Didn't do anything.
36:02OK.
36:03All right.
36:04Not my reason.
36:04Since the start of your relationship with Emma in November,
36:06have you had sexual contact with any other person?
36:08Are you saying from a kiss to intercourse?
36:09No.
36:10You said no.
36:10Test says you lied on that question as well.
36:13It's like, I'm going to hate you.
36:15Look what you've done.
36:18So you can ask the first one.
36:25It's like, I get blamed for everything.
36:28You can't even tell the truth.
36:30Why can't you just tell the truth?
36:32I'll tell you the truth.
36:32You're not.
36:33Tell her the truth, mate.
36:34You're lying.
36:35Nothing.
36:35Tell her the truth, Dan.
36:36There's nothing, Janet.
36:37I've got plenty of opportunity to tell me the truth.
36:39I haven't done nothing.
36:40How can the first question be right and a second to a wrong?
36:44You want another planet?
36:45Go back to Manchester.
36:46Leave me alone.
36:48So as you can see, Emma gets the results, decides to end the relationship and cancels the wedding.
36:55So you can imagine my surprise to hear this morning when I came to the studios, the couple wanted to come back on this show.
37:02I'm thinking to myself why.
37:04Emma's back, ladies and gentlemen.
37:10Hello.
37:11Hiya.
37:12Why are you back?
37:13Um, because I'm sick of rumours.
37:14I'm sick of people saying that I've cheated when I haven't...
37:17Hold a minute, hold a minute, hold a minute.
37:18You know I'm getting old.
37:19Uh, so, uh, you come here and you do a lie detector and, uh, he fails.
37:24And can I point out, and you'll bat me on this, that it was about the moment you got in the car, he went, yes, something did happen.
37:30He admitted, right?
37:31He hadn't had sex, but he had sexual contact and kissed somebody.
37:34So the test was right, yeah?
37:35Yeah.
37:35Tell me through the car journey home when you've split up and you've cancelled the wedding with a bloke who's just admitted he's had a grope and a snog with another bird.
37:42What happened from there?
37:43Um, on the way home, he decided to tell me that he had actually kissed somebody, but he doesn't remember doing anything else, but clearly, obviously, he did.
37:52Right, so how did we go from that?
37:53Why are you back here?
37:54Um, we got married.
37:57Um...
37:58Sorry, so I thought you cancelled the wedding?
38:00As I thought, I did say to him, because we started talking.
38:03No, no, but you cancelled the wedding.
38:06No, I didn't.
38:06You dumped him and you cancelled the wedding?
38:09Um, I had a conversation between him and his mum to say that his mum was on her way down from Manchester, so I got a bit curious as to why she was on her way, and then he had to tell me, well, I've not cancelled any of the wedding, it's still on tomorrow.
38:25Why would you marry a man that you don't trust?
38:27I trust him, it's him that don't trust me.
38:29Hold on a minute, hold on a minute, hold on a minute, hold on a minute.
38:30So you instantly, when you heard that the wedding was on, completely forgave him, you're right, and can trust him despite what he did?
38:39Yeah, because he was in Manchester when he did what he did.
38:43The wedding took place, but none of your family turned up, why was that?
38:46I had, most of my members of the family were there.
38:49Shall we have a look at the picture of your wedding?
38:50My dad wasn't there, but that's private reasons why he couldn't be there.
38:55It was just the two of you?
38:55Yeah, that's just a picture that someone took place.
38:59You don't look very happy, love.
39:01I wish my dad could have been there, and my brother.
39:03Why did you marry a man you didn't trust?
39:06On this show, you said, I don't trust you, I want to cancel the wedding.
39:08Why did you marry him?
39:09Because we started talking, and...
39:11Right, and now you're here, how long have you been married?
39:13I'm going to fall over while I hear this.
39:14How long have you been married for?
39:15A week.
39:17And you're back on the Jeremy Kyle show because, what, you don't trust him?
39:20No, he doesn't trust you!
39:24What a joke!
39:25I don't f***ing think so!
39:27But when you want to f***ing, you don't!
39:29Why is it a joke?
39:30Is it a relationship?
39:31No.
39:32Thank the Lord, I'm not in your ridiculous relationship.
39:34You've been married for a week!
39:36You're insane, isn't you?
39:37What?
39:37You're insane!
39:38Absolutely not, but I wouldn't marry somebody who...
39:40Why are you marrying him when you...
39:41Why is your wife married to you after what you've done?
39:44Do you think I'm underneath, though, you're a background?
39:48Go on then, girl.
39:49So you've not been bad, no?
39:50You've not done anything wrong.
39:52You've not forgave no one, no?
39:54Your wife didn't forgive you, no?
39:55What for?
39:56Whatever you've done!
39:58Well, let's have some facts!
39:59What, the fact that I had a gambling problem years ago, yeah?
40:01And your wife didn't forgive you, did she or did she not?
40:03I wasn't with her at that point.
40:04I'll give you something.
40:06You must love him an awful lot.
40:08But here's the thing.
40:08If you didn't want to marry him, right, and then you have married him, why do you think he doesn't trust you?
40:15At what point, though?
40:16Why do you think he doesn't trust you?
40:17Because of people getting involved.
40:19No, because of what he did!
40:21No, I might be sorry, but people...
40:22And then he, he, you don't even know the half of it.
40:27You get with him, and then you come to us and you say, I don't trust him, and we spend money on a test, and that proves that he's a dirty liar.
40:34He says it's rubbish, but then you get him to admit that the test was right and he's a cheat.
40:40You say, I'm going to dump him, but then you aren't marrying him, and now you wonder why he doesn't trust you.
40:44And you think I don't have the right to say what a joke your marriage and relationship is.
40:48Dan's on the show, whatever you want.
40:56Sit down.
40:56Sit down.
40:57Sit down.
40:59I want to apologise for what's going on when I got angry here.
41:00Your eye detector is real.
41:04I'm just going to...
41:05Sorry, so you, what?
41:09I'm going before I actually kick off big time.
41:14I'm going to punch the cat while she tries to run somewhere.
41:23She came here and said, I don't trust him, and he failed a lie detector, which proved that he was a liar.
41:30He denied it and then accepted it.
41:32She cancelled the wedding.
41:33I came in this morning.
41:34Life was pretty normal.
41:35Anyway, in the car on the way home, they started talking, right?
41:39She marries him, despite the fact he cheated, right?
41:43And a week later, ladies and gentlemen, seven days, 168 hours, she's back on the Jeremy Carl show because he doesn't trust her.
41:52He, who was angry with me, came out and shook me and said, thank you very much, your lie detector's great.
41:56We're going to do the lie detector results next.
42:00I'm completely confused.
42:01We're right back.
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42:49Welcome back.
42:50They've been married seven days.
42:52Apparently, it's my fault.
42:53Where am I going?
42:55Right.
42:56Let's go for it.
42:56Why is she wailing at me?
42:59Her boyfriend's a cheat.
43:01He's come out.
43:02I, there are points where I am going to implode.
43:05One of these days.
43:06F***ing morning.
43:07Where is she now?
43:08Follow the noise.
43:09He's like, can I have anything to do with that squammy little man?
43:13Why is it?
43:16Sorry, why is it my fault then?
43:19Why is it my fault?
43:21Because you think it's good to pick on people.
43:24How do I come out of style on you?
43:24You've come back here.
43:26No, I didn't come out of style on you, did I?
43:28No.
43:29You came here.
43:31Emma.
43:31Get her away.
43:32Could you, Dan, could you do me a favour?
43:34Could you explain this to me?
43:35No, no, no.
43:36She's come back, right?
43:37Let her go a minute.
43:37You came here.
43:38We're all in the cold time.
43:39No, that's fine.
43:39No, that's fine, but you.
43:40No, that's fine, but you.
43:40No, that's fine, but you.
43:40No, that's fine, but you.
43:40No, that's fine, but you.
43:41There's a squammy little c***.
43:42Get away from him.
43:46Well, I've been called many things in my life.
43:49Why did you come, why did you come back then, Emma?
43:53Why did you come back?
43:54Why is he not listening to me?
43:55Dan, help me out here, mate, because I'm a little bit confused.
43:57Let's just get this right a minute, sorry.
43:58Your wife, come here.
43:59You did the lie detector, and she said the wedding's over.
44:05Yeah.
44:06You admit you lied.
44:08You and she put that right.
44:09I did put it right, yeah.
44:10In the workplace, why is she so angry?
44:13Because you want her to do a test.
44:14The only thing that people would assume, and I'm being honest with you,
44:17is that she's lost her rag because she's going to fail the test.
44:20No, I hope not, Jeremy.
44:22Why do you want her to do the test?
44:24What are the doubts?
44:24People, it's landscape, that bag, the bag.
44:27But people are getting involved again.
44:28They got involved before, but they were right about you.
44:30I don't know, Jeremy.
44:31I've come out and apologise.
44:32It wasn't just rumour.
44:33Wasn't there a night out that you were worried about?
44:35Yeah, she came back at 6 o'clock and lost the bag.
44:37Sorry?
44:38She lost the bag.
44:38And got back at what time in the morning?
44:406 o'clock.
44:41So you have genuine doubts?
44:42And you want to do those results?
44:43Yeah.
44:48So you don't want the results, no?
44:50Oh, my God!
44:51Your husband wants the results because he says she went on a night out
44:53and ding about till 6.
44:54I'm just doing what he asked me to do.
44:56So if you don't want to hear them, I'll read them to him, yeah?
44:58Because I'm not following you around this building any more.
45:00It is not my fault.
45:01Your relationship at this point has been a bit ridiculous.
45:04Do you want the results?
45:05No.
45:06Can I have the results, please?
45:07I'm not following you.
45:08Keep walking, love.
45:09I've never got that.
45:10How in the name of God it's my fault that your relationship's a joke is beyond me.
45:14Thank you for standing here.
45:16Do you know what?
45:17Now I'm even more confused.
45:19Since the start of your relationship with Dan, have you had sexual intercourse with any other person?
45:24She said no.
45:25Your wife was telling the truth.
45:28Since the start of your relationship with Dan, have you had sexual contact with any other person?
45:32She said no.
45:33She was telling the truth.
45:34Fuck off, eh?
45:35Full house.
45:36Yeah, it is a full house.
45:37So why have you lost your rank with me?
45:38That's brilliant!
45:39Oi!
45:40No, no, no!
45:41Calm down and listen.
45:42Why?
45:43Calm down, darling.
45:45I told you I was going to do.
45:47Do you know what's happened here?
45:48Too many people have got involved in your relationship.
45:51I told you I was right!
45:54Emma!
45:55Emma!
45:56Emma!
45:57You've found what you've come out of being so for guilty and that's why people do this.
46:00But you've listened to too many people.
46:02I've not listened to nobody else.
46:03Haven't you?
46:04Me and you, look, I am so sorry.
46:06What I did was wrong.
46:07I paid for your forgiveness, Emma.
46:10I love you so much.
46:12I just want to be with you.
46:13Do you not think you should be on honeymoon rather than on the Jeremy Kyle show?
46:16Exactly.
46:17That's where we're going.
46:18We're going next week, dang it.
46:19Emma!
46:20Emma!
46:21You took it wrong, babe.
46:22This isn't my fault.
46:23Just hear me out.
46:24Listen.
46:25No, because you came here.
46:27Look at me and listen.
46:29This is important.
46:30You came here, right?
46:32You know that I'm an honest guy.
46:33Look at me.
46:34You came here and you said, my boyfriend.
46:37I remember you saying about your kid and you saying, you know, I've really opened up to this guy and I think he's done the dirty, right?
46:43We do the test results, right?
46:45And he's done the dirty.
46:46The worst thing he could do, you look at me and you go, you know what, Jez, marriage is over, I'm done.
46:50What would you do if you walked back into your office four weeks later to be told, with respect, hear me out, just paint this picture, right?
46:56Not only did she not do that, she went and married him, and now they're back because he doesn't trust her and I'm like this.
47:02This isn't life, I just said you should be on your honeymoon, you shouldn't be on this show.
47:05Look at me.
47:06There's two lessons here.
47:07One, you're one lucky man that she's forgiven you, but I think actually he's probably got the message and will behave himself.
47:12And secondly, why do people listen to rumour the whole time?
47:17I would like to thank you.
47:18Of course you can.
47:19I would like to thank you.
47:20And I mean that too for you.
47:22Hand and heart.
47:23Sorry.
47:24Oi.
47:25What?
47:26Sorry.
47:27I don't want to thank you for that.
47:28I know what, do you know what I thought, you want me to tell you something?
47:31I thought that you went off on one because you were going to fail the test and the truth of the matter is, forget everybody in Margate, Ramsgate or anything that ends in Gate, right?
47:38Let's do one thing here.
47:39You are lucky she's forgiven you.
47:41You've got married.
47:42It might not have had a lot of guests, but I'm sure it was a nice day.
47:44The fact is, you haven't cheated.
47:46Why don't you two go out into the big wide world and go, do you know what?
47:49We're not coming back here.
47:50We don't need a lie detector and the next person who tells us anything, we will believe each other, not them.
47:55Is that okay?
47:56Are we friends?
47:57Sorry.
47:58Don't be ridiculous.
47:59Take your wife, get out of my building and never darken my daughter again.
48:03Good luck.
48:04Somebody said to me this morning that one of these days, Kyle, you will actually implode on that stage.
48:11How in the name of the Lord is that my fault?
48:13Anyway, but listen, at the end of the day, they're apparently sorted.
48:16He admitted that he lied on the lie detector.
48:19They got married because he didn't cancel it.
48:21She was very angry, but she understands that we were, you know, looking at the relationship.
48:26She passed.
48:27They're sorted.
48:28Ignore everybody else.
48:29I'm out of time.
48:30Thank goodness.
48:31I need to go and lie down in a dark room.
48:33See you very soon.
48:34Take care.
48:35Bye-bye for now.
48:56Bye-bye.
48:57Bye-bye.