The Jeremy Kyle Show 26th February 2018
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00:10On today's show, you describe him as a druggie criminal, a youthful father.
00:16Let's call him Bonehead, because he's a bonehead.
00:20When you come out here, you're going to get us racking the mouth.
00:23He says you're a complete liar. He walked in and found you on top of his girlfriend and you cheated on her behind his back.
00:44Anna's your ex-partner. How long were you with her? Two years. When did you split up? About seven months ago.
00:49She was lazy, she never showered and she spelt a fish.
00:53Hannah is obsessed with my Jason. She's a stalker.
00:58You cheated on me nine times. You don't see my family. You don't see my friends.
01:02You would have a go at me.
01:03You're alive.
01:04Hello, my friends. Good morning and a big, big welcome to the show.
01:28All right, my first guest today, Curtis, says that ever since he started a relationship, check this, with his ex-best mate Dan's missus, Dan has given them nothing but hell.
01:37Mm, there's a surprise.
01:38Curtis says that Dan has even gone as low as to say that his two-week-old son isn't his and wished him dead and today he wants to put an end to it.
01:43There's a low to this story. Curtis is on the Jeremy Carr show that way.
01:47APPLAUSE
01:48All right, Curtis and me. I love that. All right, have everybody Curtis in the house?
01:57Curtis in the sneakers. How are you, son?
01:59I'm all right, mate. Yourself?
02:00Yeah, not bad for a balding 52-year-old. Um, in a relationship with Lisa, this is really interesting. Lisa used to be your ex-best friend Dan's...
02:08No, not, not ex-best friend. Never in my life would I call that scumbag a best friend.
02:13He was, um, he was a friend, though, wasn't he?
02:18Yeah, I thought he was.
02:19And, uh, you've been with his ex for four years, you've got a two-week-old son, and this guy is making your life a misery.
02:25Uh, Loa, as Loa's saying, I don't even think that kid's yours because he's making out that she's basically cheated on you.
02:32Let me correct you there. I...
02:34LAUGHTER
02:35He's not making my life hell. I have a life of bliss.
02:40I've got a great, great missus, two great kids.
02:46The thing is, I don't want to upset you, I want to do this properly.
02:50Look at me, you describe him as a druggie criminal and a useless father,
02:53but when you knew each other, and I know you've turned...
02:55Spice up!
02:56..up, when you knew each other, you both used to take drugs, didn't you?
02:59Yeah.
03:00Spice. Now, I give you credit, you turned your life round.
03:03He hasn't, and that's important, right?
03:07Um...
03:07You say he's never paid a penny, for what?
03:13For the child he has with her?
03:15Anything. The only thing he's paid a penny for is drugs.
03:18He's got a seven-year-old with her that you bring up, and you've got a new baby.
03:21The answer to all of this is to say,
03:24you stole my missus, you're this, you're that.
03:26You say, I turn my life round, this guy is useless, I'm a better dad, yeah?
03:31Yeah, every day. Every day of the week.
03:34You come farther, a puppy, you little idiot.
03:36Shut up!
03:37I don't look after you, son!
03:38He says, um, you say you're a better dad,
03:41you say you feed, dress, and give this child stability.
03:44He says he's getting custody.
03:45I'll correct you there.
03:47My missus...
03:48I don't know, I...
03:49Do you know what? That's it.
03:50My missus feeds...
03:50My missus feeds, that kid.
03:57My missus clothes, that kid, yeah?
03:59All I'm there for is father figure,
04:01because he can't be bothered.
04:03I don't know what his name is now,
04:05because I've torn my cards up.
04:06Let's call him Bonehead,
04:08because he's a...
04:09a bonehead.
04:11What are you dancing for, that...
04:13What am I dancing for?
04:15I've got an adrenaline rush,
04:16because when you come out here,
04:17you're going to get a smack in the mouth,
04:19your mouth...
04:19You can't do that, can you?
04:22I can't.
04:23Because you can't come out here and...
04:24You scumbag!
04:29Look at you, look.
04:31Come see them...
04:31Go away, go away.
04:33New shoes?
04:34Yeah, new shoes, yeah.
04:35Are they yours?
04:35Yeah, they are, yeah.
04:36Of course they are.
04:37What, like your old ones?
04:38That's...
04:39Look.
04:39Mate, these cost more than your entire outfit.
04:41Let's have a look at your little...
04:46Where's he at?
04:48Yeah, yeah.
04:49Dan, you can't even look at me.
04:50Oh, I can't even look at you.
04:51What are you going to do?
04:52Listen, mate.
05:02Listen, mate.
05:03He would bang you up.
05:04Bang him.
05:05Oh, see you, child.
05:07Oh, my goodness, mate.
05:10The first...
05:11Job, now you...
05:13Sorry, mate, yeah.
05:16Don't you...
05:16Could you leave?
05:18Oh, what are you going to do?
05:20Get...
05:20Boy.
05:21Here, boy.
05:22Get...
05:23Boy.
05:24Get down.
05:25You're here, are you?
05:26I...
05:26I'll tell you what...
05:27He hasn't got a microphone.
05:30Oi, swampy, be quiet.
05:31I can't even not be in a farm.
05:34Oh, well, what are you going to do?
05:36What are you going to do?
05:37I'd knock you, spark lights, you idiot.
05:39Nobody can hear you.
05:41Sit down.
05:42Sorry, Jeremy, but...
05:44You're not going to make threats.
05:45Oi.
05:46If you want, listen to me.
05:47If you want, right, here's a bit of advice.
05:50I respected when I read that you've changed your life.
05:53Hear me out.
05:53I respected that you went from drugs and nothing
05:56to have got yourself in order, got a job.
05:58You're with this woman, everything's good, right?
06:00You alert yourself there, you show everybody
06:02that you know better than him, all right?
06:04That's the most important thing about today.
06:06Why are you here?
06:08I'm here to...
06:09I'm here...
06:10I'm called Jeremy, not Jamie, you numpty.
06:12I'm here to prove to this little scumbag
06:17and his little scumbag brother
06:18that my baby is my baby.
06:21I have taken on your child as my own, yeah?
06:25I have done things.
06:26It weren't last year you were thanking me
06:28for doing her homework with her.
06:30So shut your mouth, you little...
06:32He says...
06:33Correction.
06:34He says you're a complete liar.
06:36He walked in and found you on top of his girlfriend
06:39and you cheated on her behind his back.
06:43Dan's on the Jeremy Kyle show that way.
06:49You take a seat then, Mick.
06:50You take a seat.
06:51Take a seat, mupi.
06:52You take a seat.
06:53Before you put me down, take a seat.
06:54Before you put me down, take a seat.
06:54Before you put me down, take a seat.
06:55It weren't a week ago...
06:56Of course it was, yeah, when I battered you up at my dad's house, yeah?
07:00When I battered you up at my dad's house, yeah?
07:01Of course you did, mate.
07:02Yeah, of course you did.
07:03Where's...
07:03Where's the proof in that?
07:05Apart from your Facebook profile with a big walking black eye.
07:08Yeah, I can't see it.
07:08Crying you little eyes out.
07:10I'm sorry, mate.
07:11I'm sorry, mate.
07:12I didn't mean to.
07:13It weren't a week ago...
07:14What are you dancing for?
07:15It's a talk show.
07:15What are you dancing for?
07:16It weren't a week ago, mate, that you were starting to be in town.
07:20Oh, my Facebook's being hacked.
07:22I was meant to send you a letter.
07:23I've not been trolling you on Facebook.
07:25And sorry, mate.
07:26That was your word.
07:28Dancing rights is on TV, and I'll get on that if you want to dance a bat.
07:30Yeah, mate, you're as bat as funny.
07:33Oi, oi, Mr. Loverman.
07:35He has a right to speak.
07:36Be quiet.
07:36Don't say a word.
07:37Stop making threats.
07:38Stand welcome to the show.
07:38You say that this guy systematically took your family away.
07:44Yeah.
07:44You say that this guy has taken over your wife, your girlfriend, your missus, whatever, and
07:48now is playing God with your child's life.
07:51You say, the truth is, this guy is a liar.
07:56He was cheating.
07:57They were cheating behind your back.
07:59And you don't even believe that the child that he and Lisa have is his because she's
08:04as bad as him, right?
08:05No, because when Lisa went to Nottingham, Curtis was babysitting my daughter.
08:10A year ago.
08:10Where were you?
08:13I was at my dad's.
08:15Getting out of his face.
08:16Lisa slept.
08:17Lisa slept with me.
08:19Drugs, Dan?
08:20No, I don't know.
08:20Look at them gashes, mate.
08:24Regardless.
08:25Regardless.
08:26I don't take drugs.
08:27When was the last time he took drugs?
08:28Yesterday.
08:29God knows.
08:30Yesterday.
08:30What do you mean, God knows?
08:31I'll do a drugs test.
08:32Go on, then.
08:33Go on, then.
08:34Prove it.
08:34You do one.
08:35You do one.
08:35You do one, Mr. Cannabis Smoker.
08:37You do one.
08:37Cannabis?
08:38Yeah, I smoke cannabis.
08:39Yeah, there you go.
08:39You smoke cannabis.
08:40So how can you talk to me?
08:41How can I talk to you?
08:42Because I get off my...
08:43It's a job.
08:44I don't do drugs, mate.
08:45I'll pass a drug test with Simon.
08:46Mate, mate, I've had more drug interviews this week than you've had.
08:51Don't you mean my daughter's benefit pays you?
08:54Catch him in bed.
08:55Hello?
08:57Of course it does.
08:57When I...
08:58Shall I just leave?
09:01Yeah.
09:01You want me to leave?
09:02Take your security with you.
09:03Then we'll see you with a real man.
09:04But then you're doing the wrong thing, aren't you?
09:06But the thing is...
09:07Anybody watching this would think you've done quite well.
09:10Then you make threats and you look as bad as him.
09:12Oi, did you catch him having what's it with your wife?
09:14Yes, I did, yeah.
09:15So we'll do a lie detector on that.
09:17Oh, God.
09:18We'll do a lie detector.
09:18You've never seen me...
09:20At the end of the day, she's that much...
09:21Can't be spelled...
09:22Oh, yeah.
09:23Yeah, you spell it.
09:24Can you even trust her after you...
09:25You spell...
09:26Yeah, no, but...
09:27You've got so many violent conditions against your convictions, haven't you?
09:33Oh, yeah, of course they have.
09:34You couldn't...
09:34How many times have...
09:36How many violent convictions...
09:37Your producer said to me, your producer said to me...
09:3940 counts of violence...
09:40They refused a lie detector test.
09:4140 counts of violence.
09:41They refused a lie detector test.
09:43On chickens.
09:43Yeah, of course they did.
09:44On chickens.
09:45No, they didn't refuse at all.
09:47Your producer said to me, they refused a lie detector test.
09:48No, they did not.
09:49Nobody said that.
09:5040 convictions for theft, what?
09:52Violence, what?
09:53So what?
09:54I'm not perfect.
09:55No, I'm perfect.
09:56Are you perfect?
09:57Animal cruelty as well, yeah?
09:59Hold on, Jeremy, gambling.
10:00Left in water for you...
10:01Left in water for you...
10:02Left in water for you...
10:03Perfect.
10:04Sorry, I'll tell you again.
10:05Hold on, hold on.
10:07We've got to have this because this happens every day.
10:09What did she just say?
10:10I had a gambling problem.
10:11I had a drink problem.
10:12My name's Jeremy Carlton.
10:13And I'm perfect.
10:14Once, because of my child, he couldn't even look after my child.
10:18He killed chickens.
10:19Listen, listen, no.
10:20Blue torch, they give her a...
10:21She's talking.
10:22It's required why she talks.
10:23Let her talk.
10:24I'm telling you...
10:25Let her talk.
10:26Let her talk.
10:27Then you have in the last God knows that.
10:28Let her talk.
10:29I'm going to go...
10:30Let her talk.
10:31I'll probably sit down back in a minute.
10:32Jeremy, you get me access and you arrange access.
10:33Why would I get you access?
10:34You haven't done anything.
10:35You're a law-breaking law-right.
10:36If there was a good movie, you'd let me see her.
10:37What a good movie.
10:38And if you were a good father, you wouldn't let the kid down.
10:39Yeah.
10:40DNA test results show that Curtis...
10:42You haven't done anything. You're a law-breaking lover.
10:47If there was a good girl for you, you'd let me see her.
10:49What? And if you were a good father, you wouldn't let the kid down.
10:54DNA test results show that Curtis...
10:56Thank you very much and welcome back for the break.
11:10Curtis and Dan, you're now with his ex.
11:13You brought up his seven-year-old and a new kid.
11:15You say you used to be bad, you were on drugs, but you changed your life.
11:19You're working, you're bringing up this kid.
11:21Your gripe about this thing is you say he doesn't do anything.
11:24He slags off your wife and he's telling these rumours around the town
11:27that the new kid that you've got isn't yours and slagging off your girlfriend.
11:30You say, it's a bit rich, we were mates, he's as bad as me.
11:34Although he hasn't got faulty convictions and isn't done for animal cruelty.
11:37But here's the thing, apparently, you caught him bouncing up and down your girlfriend.
11:41Did you not see that? Because you were so high you don't know what you saw.
11:45But at the end of the day now, yeah, she's up much interest to himself, so...
11:48Spell... Can you?
11:50Yeah, spell it. I'm asking you to spell it.
11:52I can spell a lot more than you.
11:54No, you can't.
11:55Spell it.
11:56Spell it.
11:57You're calling her... Spell it.
11:58Can't spell it.
11:59Clear as day.
12:00Spell...
12:01You're a muppet.
12:03Right?
12:04Right on.
12:05You are...
12:06M-U-P-P-E-T.
12:08You're a muppet.
12:09You spell...
12:10I'll tell you what, mate.
12:11I'll tell you what.
12:12Yeah?
12:13How's about this?
12:14Hold on.
12:15Hold on.
12:16Hold on.
12:17Hold on.
12:18Hold on.
12:19Give two from the top.
12:20You want two from the...
12:21A P.
12:22Another P.
12:23Any other letter?
12:24What letter would you like?
12:25E.
12:26E?
12:27That's two P's.
12:28He got one right.
12:29Any other letter?
12:30T.
12:31T.
12:32Any other letters?
12:33Nope.
12:34At the end of the day, right?
12:36At the end of the day, right?
12:37At the end of the day, right?
12:38At the end of the day, right?
12:39All we're going to do is short...
12:40Get access to my daughter.
12:42Get access to my daughter.
12:43Leave the daughter of Jeremy Kyle show that way.
12:45CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
12:48The mother of your child, you horrendous, disgusting human being.
13:05What she did to me was bang out of order.
13:07What?
13:08What she did to me bang out of order?
13:09And what about the 40 people you committed crimes against?
13:12And reporting chicken.
13:14You make me sick.
13:17You were convicted for ammo.
13:18Weren't you?
13:19Yeah.
13:2040 chicken.
13:2140 chicken.
13:22And he didn't take one end to eat it.
13:25Then you think you've got to get a full custody over my day.
13:28Yeah, but you stayed with me.
13:29If you stayed with me, if it was that wrong, why didn't you stay with me?
13:32If it was that wrong, why didn't you stay with me?
13:34I think we used to keep you up because you can't do what you like.
13:37You're not keeping it up.
13:39Lisa, take a seat.
13:41Let me just tell you.
13:42Lisa is a 50-year-old woman.
13:45Just putting that out there.
13:48There's nothing wrong with being 50.
13:50Listen, do you hear me?
13:52He had yellow joints as you idiot when he was born.
13:56Stupid idiot.
13:58Yellow joints as what?
13:59Did you drink that much?
14:00I don't.
14:01I don't.
14:02I don't.
14:03It's not going very well, is it?
14:05Yeah.
14:06I know what I know.
14:08You're still in love with her, aren't you?
14:09You're jealous of Mitra and Tristan.
14:10You're jealous of Mitra and Tristan.
14:11Yeah.
14:12You don't even ask about you.
14:13Jerry, Jerry, I wouldn't even talk to you.
14:15Can I ask you about this?
14:16I would not even talk to you about yours.
14:17I would not even talk to you about yours.
14:18You couldn't talk to you about yours, you know?
14:20I don't want...
14:21I mean, you asked about her all day!
14:23You don't...
14:24You asked about her, are you?
14:26You, you...
14:27I've been asking the producers all day to see her.
14:29I've been asking the producers all day to see her.
14:31Can you remember what he got off of a sixth birthday?
14:37Five shout-to-shop teddies.
14:38Can I get involved? It's called the Jeremy Kyle Show.
14:41Can I speak? Is that all right? Thanks.
14:46Hear me out. I want to speak to her and nobody else.
14:48You've heard your posturing.
14:49Did you cheat with Curtis when you were with Dan?
14:51No, no chance.
14:52Second question. Why are you in the slightest bit bothered about what he says?
14:55To prove to that idiot and get him out of our lives.
14:57What about your child that you share with him?
15:00How long ago was it? How long have you been together?
15:02Four years.
15:03In that four years, has he seen the seven-year-old?
15:05A few times, that's about it.
15:06But what you've given him...
15:08Shut up!
15:08Could he's the boss and he's stopped...
15:10...100 chances, Dan.
15:11Oh, that's good.
15:12Give you 100 chances.
15:13You promised to take her to play zone.
15:15This poor lad have to take it out.
15:16No money and take it there.
15:18We see you in the shelter, mate.
15:20You had to go with them.
15:21We see you in the shelter.
15:22You had to go with them.
15:23Well, this...
15:24...years ago, you...
15:26You promised to take her to play zone.
15:27Can you stop swearing?
15:28I don't like the word doubt.
15:29Still living in the past.
15:30Still living in the past.
15:31Still living in the past.
15:32That's what you are.
15:33Homeless.
15:34Seeing you outside McDonald.
15:35Everyone's seen you outside McDonald.
15:36Begging for something.
15:37When was that?
15:38When was that?
15:39When was that?
15:40Why are you calling her a doubt?
15:42My own sister see you in a homeless church.
15:44And then sit there telling me.
15:45When was this?
15:46About four weeks ago.
15:47When have I not seen you at the homeless church?
15:48Four weeks ago.
15:49Isn't it true?
15:50Yes, you were.
15:51You were near enough in tears to me, mate.
15:54I didn't mean to.
15:56It weren't me.
15:57I was meant to send you a letter, but someone hecked my face ball.
16:00Can I speak?
16:01Jeremy, you get me access and you arrange access.
16:03Why would I get you access?
16:05You haven't done anything.
16:06You're a law-breaking loner.
16:08How much money have you paid for the child?
16:24Nothing.
16:25Jack Poo.
16:26Jack Poo.
16:27Make me laugh.
16:28Jack Poo.
16:29Loat.
16:30Loat.
16:31Trying not to swear.
16:32Jack Poo.
16:34I'll sign to CSA today.
16:36I'll pay anything.
16:38When I speak to him, Lisa, I'm giving the chance.
16:40Lisa!
16:41Shush!
16:42Curtis, be quiet.
16:43Why'd you come here today?
16:44Whatever.
16:45Shush, not a word.
16:46To get access to my daughter, Jeremy.
16:47Why haven't you bothered in the last four years, then?
16:49Because he stops it.
16:50Of course he has.
16:51Every time I react.
16:52Go to court, then.
16:53He's not the child's father.
16:54But if he is everything you say he is, and he's turned his life around in working,
16:57why haven't the courts or the authorities got he shouldn't be around the kid?
17:00Because isn't the truth?
17:01You've been so off your damn face, you haven't bothered with your kid.
17:04No, I haven't.
17:05No, Jeremy.
17:06So you've just been taking drugs and you haven't been a good father?
17:11No, I have not been taking drugs.
17:12No, I've been a good father.
17:13So you've been a good father?
17:14Yeah, a man back.
17:15No, I've not been the best father.
17:16No, I could be a better father, yeah.
17:17I think you should be thanking him, mate.
17:18That's what you should be.
17:19Thanking him.
17:20Never in a million years.
17:21Never in a million years.
17:22Never in a million years.
17:23Never in a million years.
17:24Never in a million years.
17:25Through social services you had contact and failed half of that as well, didn't you, Dan?
17:29Can you not remember this?
17:30Because you wanted just me.
17:31They even have to get people to come and pick him up.
17:32I never wanted you, Dan.
17:33Yes, you did.
17:34You have to get people to come and pick him up.
17:35I never wanted you, Dan.
17:36You wanted to take him to contact.
17:37Oh, I never wanted you.
17:38Because you just wanted to see me because you wanted to see me outside of contact.
17:40No, no, no.
17:41Mate, you only turned up half an hour early.
17:42Never turned up, did you, Dan?
17:44Never turned...
17:45My boy.
17:46My boy.
17:47Half-cast, is he?
17:48It was a bit yellow-jointed because it was early, Dan.
17:50Not half-cast, mate.
17:51And he's still more the man you are.
17:53He's not my kid, mate.
17:54He's not my kid.
17:55Still more the man you are.
17:56My daughter's...
17:57You're saying that...
17:58I've never said that.
18:01Try and be a dad to her.
18:03He said it to one of your producers.
18:04Never said it.
18:05Never said it.
18:06No, I didn't get you.
18:07That's the only reason we're here, you gormless git.
18:09You said he's not my child.
18:11She's been cheering on me.
18:13That's not your kid.
18:14I like his...
18:15I like his tiger suit.
18:16You know what?
18:17If it is, I'll apologise.
18:18That's a present of the mother.
18:19If it is, I'll honestly apologise.
18:20Bye-bye.
18:21Oh, Mike, it's fine.
18:22Because I'm a bigger man in the...
18:23Apologise to you.
18:24The DNA test results...
18:25If it is DNA...
18:26The DNA test results show that Curtis...
18:28Is the father.
18:30Is the child's biological father.
18:32We need more patience again.
18:33APPLAUSE
18:35Do you want it?
18:36Do you want it?
18:37Do you want it?
18:38Because I don't need it.
18:39Because I already knew your little idiot.
18:40Now, all we want from you is stay out of our lives for good.
18:43And stop ruining it.
18:44What about him seeing his seven-year-old?
18:46Over my dead body.
18:47He can't even look after chickens around.
18:48See what I mean, look.
18:49See what I mean, look.
18:50Every time I say I want to see her.
18:51Every time I say I want to see her.
18:52I have to sit there.
18:53You don't listen to each other, will you?
18:54Please listen.
18:55What she's saying is relevant.
18:56What?
18:57Listen.
18:58Wait, please.
18:59If it was a good movie, I'd let me see her.
19:00What?
19:01And if you were a good father, you wouldn't let the kid down.
19:03Yeah.
19:04CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
19:07Honestly, I've tried.
19:09Honestly, I've tried.
19:11I'll tell you what.
19:12Without you saying a word, and I mean it, listen to me.
19:14Curtis, not a word.
19:15I've tried, Tamora, say a word.
19:16Try and convince her, cos I'm not going too far.
19:18Say I won't talk there tonight.
19:20You try and...
19:21Oi, stop slagging her off cos she's brought your kid up.
19:23Shut your stupid mouth and listen.
19:25You've got 30 sec...
19:26It's quiet.
19:27You've got 30 seconds without shouting, screaming,
19:31swearing and gesticulating.
19:33Go on, convince her why you should be allowed to suddenly,
19:36after seven years, and the crime and the animal cruelty
19:39and the drugs, why you should be allowed to be in that child's life.
19:42Go on.
19:43If anything, me as well.
19:44I've got one parent, you've got one parent.
19:45You know what it's like to have one parent in your family.
19:47My parents don't let her sit there and have to watch them cry, Dan,
19:49because you've let her down.
19:50He has to sit down.
19:51Give me a chance and I won't let her down.
19:52Yeah, do you not remember that?
19:54Give me a chance and I won't let her down.
19:55Give me a chance and I won't let her down.
19:56Give me a chance and I won't let her down.
19:57Give me a chance.
19:58Give me a chance.
19:59I'm waiting for this apology.
20:00You've got no chance.
20:01Why?
20:02That's what kind of mother you are.
20:03See what I mean?
20:04She's the best mother.
20:05She's the best mother.
20:06She's the best mother.
20:07Let her down for paces and let her sit there.
20:09See, it's a really difficult one for me because the remit,
20:11can I speak without anybody just for ten seconds?
20:13The remit on this show is to try and, you know,
20:15get whatever chances we can.
20:17Bit of card, mate.
20:18I'm still waiting for the apology, you little naughty.
20:20I'm the bigger man.
20:21Where's this apology?
20:22I'm sorry for what I said.
20:23I can't.
20:24I don't accept it.
20:25I can try but the fact is, do I sit here and say she has to?
20:35No.
20:36She's the mother and she's been around.
20:37No chance.
20:38You have to convince this woman by not shouting and screaming
20:41and breaking the law and taking drugs.
20:43You have to convince her that your child deserves a chance
20:46to be with you.
20:47But you know what, Dan?
20:48Maybe I have to care without that muppet there.
20:49Maybe she'll agree.
20:50I've never been there.
20:51I've never got in the way of you.
20:52Dan, you have supervised contact and never turned up.
20:53Give me a favour.
20:54Curtis.
20:55You have supervised contact and never turned up to that.
20:56You have supervised contact and never turned up to that.
20:57You have supervised contact and never turned up to that.
20:58Trust me.
20:59Trust me.
21:00Alright, give Curtis a round of applause.
21:01You can't even look after yourself, let alone a child.
21:06You can't even look after yourself, let alone a child.
21:10Without shouting, say what you just said, cos she's right.
21:12I said he can't even look after himself, let alone a child.
21:14Why can't I have changed?
21:15Outside Macdonald, begging for money.
21:17When was that?
21:18Maybe last year, yeah, but not this year.
21:19It wasn't last year at all, Dan, it was this year.
21:20No, it wasn't at all.
21:21He only seen you a couple of months ago.
21:22No, it wasn't.
21:23Hello, can I, what is he?
21:24Ted's Curtis, me and him used to start smoking at scamp.
21:26He doesn't do it anymore cos he changed his life.
21:28No, he did, John.
21:29He did, yeah, he did.
21:30Cos he started smoking at women and we both stopped it.
21:32Yeah, you haven't stopped it.
21:33You haven't stopped it.
21:34Yeah, can't say, I'll do it.
21:35Just, I'll pass it.
21:36Let me do one.
21:37Did you and Curtis ever have a good relationship?
21:38Yeah, we did at one point.
21:39We used to do everything together.
21:40Not at all.
21:41Did he and the baby ever have a good relationship?
21:43No.
21:44The daughter?
21:45He just used to let her do what she liked.
21:46Stay up too stupid.
21:47But here's the thing that I wanted to say before we finish cos my head's hurting.
21:50How long were you, just don't say a word seriously or I promise you.
21:54How long were you in a relationship with Dan for?
21:56Probably about three years of head.
21:57And how long was he in the child's life?
22:00Probably about two years of head.
22:02And you knew exactly at that point what he was?
22:04Yeah.
22:05You knew that he had problems with criminal, criminal things.
22:08You knew that he was a drug taker.
22:09Yeah, so sure.
22:10No, be quiet!
22:11At that point, before you had Curtis, and you've got to see from his point of view a little bit,
22:17you are with his ex-friend.
22:19Hear me out.
22:20You've got the perfect life.
22:21You've got the kids.
22:22He's had some ups.
22:23He's had some downs.
22:24He's made some mistakes.
22:25But here's my question.
22:26Before you had Curtis, warts and all, you were letting him see this kid.
22:30So the problem with this is that people will watch this and go,
22:34she's only stopped that since you got with Curtis.
22:36No, no.
22:37Oh.
22:38That's what you have to answer calmly.
22:39That's what you have to answer calmly.
22:41That's how I think and that's how I feel.
22:42Right, no more shouting.
22:43Before I got with Curtis, then you had contact with social service and never turned up.
22:46I've asked you to see her and you've said, oh, Curtis has said he's taken out of social service.
22:48No, I've never said Curtis.
22:49Curtis has nothing to do with you seeing your child.
22:51I've never said that Curtis said that at all.
22:52Here, here's the point.
22:53If you as a mother, if you as a mother decide and you have good reason if this is what you decide to say no,
23:00that is your choice.
23:01But you have to be absolutely sure when you say he can't see this kid.
23:05You can put conditions on it, quite right, agree with you.
23:08But if you said to him, through us, you've got one chance.
23:12Contact centre through the Jeremy Karl show.
23:14Look at me.
23:15You've got a chance, mate.
23:16Come on, mate.
23:17Over my dead body.
23:18Why?
23:19Because I'm not letting her get let down.
23:20I'll sit there more.
23:21Then if I do let you down, Jeremy knows I've let you down.
23:22I have to sit there.
23:23I will not blow it up on you.
23:25Why don't you...
23:26So you can show her this when she's older and say I gave him a chance and he didn't.
23:29But what if he does?
23:30Hello?
23:31I asked her this morning.
23:32Well, you shouldn't ask a seven-year-old.
23:33Look at me.
23:34Look at me.
23:35Look at me.
23:36What if he turns up and this is his eureka moment and he turns the light on in his head and he changes his life and he turns out to be alright.
23:41Is that not right for her?
23:43Not him.
23:44Get him out of your mind and think about her.
23:45No chance.
23:46He'd just turn up out of his head.
23:47No, I wouldn't.
23:48Yes, you would.
23:49No, I wouldn't.
23:50Give him a chance.
23:51We'll control the whole thing.
23:52Give us one chance.
23:53Look at me.
23:54One chance.
23:55No.
23:56We're going to do a drug test now.
23:57Yeah, I will do.
23:58I'll pass it.
23:59No.
24:00I'll pass it and he'll fail on cannabis, you know he will.
24:02After the show, if he does a drug test and passes it, will you sit with Graham and at least try and have a conversation about one situation in a contact centre under our control, ours.
24:11If he lets the child down, you've got it forever.
24:13If he doesn't, she will decide for herself.
24:16Yes or no?
24:17I don't know.
24:18I don't think I should let her get upset all the time.
24:19Let him do a drug test and prove.
24:20Yeah, I'll let him do a drug test but he won't fail it anyway.
24:23They'll tell me afterwards, if you fail it, in your own mind, you're done.
24:27You're done.
24:28Yeah?
24:29That's probably what you've been cloaking off because you've been stressing all afternoon.
24:31No, I haven't.
24:32Yes, you have.
24:33No, I haven't.
24:34Yes, you have.
24:35Because you wanted to get on here.
24:36I'd wait all the time in the world, mate, to find out who my kids are.
24:38Yeah, I wanted to get on here so I could properly see my daughter.
24:40When was the last time to have the streets right now because you're going to make yourself look like...
24:43Eight weeks ago.
24:44Eight weeks?
24:45How do you know eight weeks ago?
24:46No.
24:47Because that's when I left.
24:48I've not been on it since.
24:49I promise you now.
24:50All of it.
24:51I've got...
24:52I've moved out, Jeremy, I promise you now.
24:54I've moved out to get off it.
24:55He was only there the other day when I gave it to my son because it...
24:59No, I wasn't.
25:00Will you at least sit with Graham and decide?
25:03I promise you now he's lying to you.
25:05I've been with my new girlfriend.
25:07Hi!
25:08Hello!
25:09She sits there messaging me loads of messages about you.
25:11So that's really a good missus that she...
25:13Drugs test.
25:14And if you pass it, a conversation with Graham and her.
25:16If you fail it, you're on your own.
25:17That's the best I can do for you, yes?
25:18It will fail it straight away.
25:19Yes?
25:20Yeah.
25:21You go that way, you go that way.
25:22Go!
25:23Graham or yours?
25:24We'll let you know.
25:25I'm going right back.
25:28So she performs oral sex on a regular basis and this makes her a good girlfriend.
25:32Yep.
25:33Is there any...?
25:34You've cheated me nine times.
25:35You don't have to see my family.
25:36I did not see it on you nine times.
25:37You've got to see my friends.
25:38No, I didn't.
25:39You made me look like an idiot.
25:40Everyone, every day, in public, he would have a go at me.
25:43You know what?
25:44You're such a liar!
25:45You're such a liar!
25:46You're such a liar!
25:47You're such a liar!
25:52It's getting worse.
25:53Yes, I need your help and I'm not leaving this stage till I get your help.
25:56I want my life back.
25:58Give me a chance to prove you're wrong.
26:00I mean it.
26:01Give me a chance to prove you're wrong.
26:03I want to see it.
26:04I want me kids.
26:05I'm gonna burn.
26:07My name is Emma.
26:09And I believe I'm your daughter.
26:12This is my last chance.
26:14I've always thought about you getting cocked up.
26:17I've always thought about you getting cocked up.
26:21She got her full house!
26:25She's a grandchild.
26:27You saw this, okay?
26:28I promise you.
26:29Listen, it's all right.
26:31He wants to be a dad.
26:33He wants to have a relationship with his child.
26:35He's your dad!
26:36You will, today, go to Newham.
26:38You are the child.
26:40You are the child.
26:44You can change and if there's anybody out there who thinks I can't, come and get Jeremy's help, trust me.
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27:24Thank you, my friends. Welcome back.
27:25Right, my next guest today, Jason, is here to tell his ex, Hannah, that she is nothing but a stalker who needs to accept their relationship is over and he's moved on with someone else.
27:32He describes Hannah as a bunny boiler.
27:35Who's trying to destroy his relationship and making false accusations that he's a woman beater and he's here to set the track all straight.
27:40He says, today, I'm going to sort her out.
27:42Jason is on the Jeremy Kyle Show that way.
27:44CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
27:52You all right, son?
27:53Yeah, basically, I want to come on the show today, basically.
27:55All right.
27:56So, basically, twice within time.
27:58Just relax, basically.
28:00You all right?
28:01Yeah.
28:02Yeah, not bad for an old bloke.
28:03Right, you're third 29.
28:05Hannah's your ex-partner.
28:06How long were you with her?
28:07Two years.
28:08When did you split up?
28:09Cursed about seven months ago.
28:10Why?
28:11Because she was controlling.
28:12She wouldn't let me do what I want to do.
28:14My ex, Hannah, is obsessed with me.
28:16She got me sacked from seven jobs.
28:18Shout out.
28:19That was her money bank.
28:21She was lazy.
28:22She never showered.
28:23And she's...
28:24Who's that with her?
28:25Her brother's...
28:26Boyfriend's brother.
28:28Her boyfriend's brother.
28:30Right.
28:31Uh, she was lazy.
28:33She never showered.
28:34And she smelt of fish.
28:35Yeah.
28:36She had showered, like, once every two weeks.
28:42You said the sex was rubbish because...
28:44Why was it rubbish?
28:45She just lied there.
28:46Like a sack of potatoes.
28:48What?
28:49You said that there was one thing that every woman should do to a man that she refused to do.
28:56Yeah.
28:57Which was what?
28:59******
29:01Now she stalks you on social media, she repulses me.
29:08I've got...
29:09Have you got a new girlfriend?
29:10Yep.
29:11What's she called?
29:12Charlotte.
29:13Charlie?
29:14Charlotte.
29:15Charlotte.
29:16Hannah is obsessed with my Jason.
29:18She's a stalker.
29:19He's had to change his number five times because of her.
29:21It's a complete lie that her and Jason were still sleeping together when we got together.
29:25I'm so much better for him than her.
29:26I've changed him.
29:27Totally.
29:28She needs to leave us alone and get on with her own life.
29:30And she needs to have a shower.
29:31She's just being childish.
29:33Er...
29:34So...
29:35So...
29:36So...
29:37Charlie, you're happy.
29:38The sex with Charlie's unreal, isn't it?
29:39Yeah.
29:40What does she do that's so better?
29:41She gives ******, keeps me happy.
29:43Is that your...
29:44Is that your...
29:48Oh, God, the art of conversation.
29:50So, she performs oral sex on a regular basis and this makes her a good girlfriend?
29:54Yep.
29:55Right!
29:56Ah!
29:57Are you related?
29:58Er...
29:59Hannah's on The Jeremy Kyle Show.
30:00Take a seat.
30:01How are you?
30:02Nice job.
30:05Um, Hannah, I don't know what's going on.
30:07There's a bloke who, I don't know why his ear keeps wandering around.
30:09This is very upsetting on a serious note.
30:11He says...
30:12I'm just giving you the chance here.
30:13You're obsessed with him and you keep stalking him.
30:15What's the truth, darling?
30:16That's all she keeps on doing.
30:18You're a liar?
30:19She texts me all the time, she rings me, she texts my girlfriend...
30:22You say, he's dragged me on here, he was a liar, he was a cheat and he controlled you.
30:28What do you mean?
30:29You cheated me nine times.
30:30You don't...
30:31I did not cheat on you nine times.
30:32You stopped missing my friends.
30:33No, I didn't.
30:34You're a little idiot.
30:35Everyone, every day, in public, he would have a go at me.
30:38You're such a liar.
30:39You're such a liar.
30:40You're such a liar.
30:41You're a liar.
30:42You're a liar.
30:43Who are you?
30:45You sit it in beer.
30:46You're an idiot.
30:47No, I'm not.
30:48You need to stop lying.
30:49Do you know what?
30:50Can I speak to her, whoever you are?
30:52I don't know...
30:53Disgusting.
30:54Alright, well, could you wait until I ask you on?
30:58He hit me, he screamed in my face.
31:00She threw me down the stairs.
31:01Okay, I pushed you when you went to grab me.
31:03Threw me down the stairs.
31:04I pushed you down the dog cage and you slipped and fell backwards.
31:06No, you threw me down the stairs.
31:07And what did I do?
31:08I apologise straight away.
31:09But whenever you hit me, whenever you strangled me, you never apologised.
31:12You thought I made me leave seven jobs.
31:14Why didn't you report the violence on a serious note?
31:16Because I was scared of him.
31:17I loved him.
31:18I don't want to...
31:19You never loved him.
31:20I never loved you.
31:21I don't care if he never loved me.
31:22He's the worst person ever.
31:23Did you catch him cheating, sweetheart?
31:24I sent messages on all of his phones.
31:25Did you cheat on her?
31:26Once.
31:27His girlfriend's pregnant.
31:28Nine weeks pregnant.
31:29On the 5th of December, she'll be about nine weeks pregnant.
31:31We broke up on the 19th of November.
31:32Oh, we didn't?
31:33My mum is so much.
31:35You're still in love with him, aren't you?
31:38No, I'm not.
31:39I don't love him.
31:40That's why I left him.
31:41I didn't care about the affair.
31:42That's why you always text me and ring me.
31:43I'm really happy now.
31:44He was ringing me.
31:45He was telling me.
31:46You say he's obsessed with you.
31:48You say he claims he's moved on, but he's obsessed.
31:50He needs to grow up and leave me alone.
31:51He needs to leave me alone.
31:52You need to leave me alone.
31:53You need to leave me alone.
31:54You need to leave me alone.
31:55You need to leave him alone.
31:56You need to leave me alone.
31:58You need to leave me in the� yap.
32:01You're not going to get that.
32:02Why should it go?
32:03I've told him many a times.
32:05You didn't ask me to pay for your dog's funeral for money from me.
32:09You asked me for money to pay for your dog's funeral.
32:11Why would I ask for money from you when I'm working?
32:13The dog's funeral?
32:15The dog's funeral?
32:17You're not to get that, why should it, what?
32:19Two days ago he rung me, frightened me on the phone.
32:21Sorry, hold on a minute.
32:23My stalking ex rang me and said I want money for the dog's funeral.
32:27Why are you demanding money for the dog?
32:29I'm sorry the dog's dead, but why have you asked for her to pay for it?
32:31I don't ask for money, I've got my own money.
32:33No you don't.
32:34How much is a dog's funeral?
32:36I don't know.
32:38What, so you didn't do a funeral for the dog?
32:40Not yet, no.
32:42Did you do a eulogy, what would you say?
32:45I don't know, my mum's dealing with it.
32:47It's a dog's life, isn't it?
32:49You need to leave me alone and let me get on with my life.
32:51Jackson, I don't contact you, I blocked you on every number.
32:53You do contact me. Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat.
32:55I blocked you, I blocked you on everything.
32:57You unblocked me this morning on Facebook.
32:59No, I don't.
33:00We did, everyone can ask you.
33:01Now, one of the things that came out of this, which I think is interesting,
33:04is that apparently, and I don't mean to be rude,
33:07you made an accusation to my team which is shocking.
33:11Apparently, Hunky Jase was sending dirty pictures on dating sites of his...
33:18Yeah.
33:19Brilliant.
33:20And he was sending them, wait, wait, and he was sending them to...
33:27My brother-in-law.
33:29Oh!
33:30All right, then.
33:31All right.
33:32All right.
33:33Who's the one that was sleeping with all my mates?
33:34Jinx on the Jeremy Kyle Show!
33:36I don't know.
33:37It'sFM!
33:38It's actually brutal violence.
33:39It doesn't...
33:40You came on before...
33:41Who...
33:42Why's he here?
33:43Why is he here?
33:44Why is he here?
33:45He's got nothing to do with you.
33:46Sorry, I know, I...
33:47I didn't really know who you are.
33:49Be quiet!
33:50Why have you got aggressive all of a sudden?
33:51Yeah, I didn't really know who you are to be quiet. Why have you got aggressive all of the sudden what's going on to be honest?
33:58He's just he's a numpty. Sorry being deadly honest. He's been sent a picture to you of
34:05I'm not gay really yeah when you called me up you've text me. I've never the phone
34:11I've never called you really who you are
34:16You sent a picture good small small
34:21Small
34:23Tell me something you've got that tattoo done in November beginning of the biggest beginning of the way you was having a family
34:28New girlfriend. I won't mention it. We're not allowed to mention it, but you've got my name tied on it
34:31How did you explain to her who that name was?
34:37And how long have you had that since November we broke up on the 90th there's evidence saying that you're with Charlie
34:43Yeah, I heard it before before I was with Charlie. Are you sending pictures of your penis to me? No. Why would he say that?
34:48I know this is a terrible terrible thing to us, but how'd you know it is Willie? Because it's a picture of him and he's
34:57Why would he say that?
34:59Why would I lie? Tell me a reason that what is it? What am I going to gain?
35:04I don't know. I was lying to you. Come on
35:09I'm not like, speak
35:11You speak
35:14I never ever did that. I'm not like that
35:16Nine occasions, nine occasions I've found different girls they ring you. I gave directions to some places
35:21Do you ever suspect that he might be bisexual or anything?
35:23Once
35:25Why?
35:26Because I caught him when I came back at 5 o'clock in the morning
35:28His mate was in his boxers and he came running to the door, but he told me nothing happened and I believed him
35:32Okay, yeah, that never happened
35:35So why would you go out tonight from 9 o'clock at night till 5 o'clock in the morning and not ring me and say
35:40I'm coming home
35:41Why were you out? Were you cheating on him?
35:42I wasn't allowed out
35:43I wasn't allowed out
35:44I wasn't allowed out
35:45I couldn't go out
35:46He didn't go out
35:47He didn't let me out
35:48You just said you were out
35:49My mate paid him 20 quid to let me out
35:51She used to call me
35:52My mate had to pay him 20 quid to let me go out and I had to be back at 12
35:55I left at like 8, I had to be back at 12
35:57What did you do when I was at work?
35:59Sit on the Xbox all day
36:00I cleaned the house every day
36:01You never cleaned the house
36:02You never once cooked
36:03You never once did anything
36:04Can I just, sorry, sorry, I know I've missed the point
36:07You think he's gay, you think he's a freak and you think she's a stalker
36:11She is a stalker
36:12That's what I'm going to work
36:13I'm actually going to bring you this mirror with me
36:15Why are you even bothering to be upset with each other when you don't want anything to do with each other?
36:19You don't leave her alone
36:20I do
36:21I'm in a new relationship
36:23I'm happy in a new relationship
36:24Okay, that's right, two days ago, sorry
36:25No, you don't have to apologise
36:26So, two days ago, you didn't call her
36:28So, we called him
36:29Oh, about the dog
36:30Last week it was
36:31Oh, last week
36:32Let him speak, go on
36:33So, you called her about the dog
36:34About the dog
36:35About the dog
36:36So, we're sitting there like a normal day
36:38Get a phone call from
36:39Sitting there like a normal day, not working
36:40From this strip
36:41Get a call from him
36:42From what?
36:43From this strip
36:44Yeah
36:45They're a drip
36:46Apparently they're going to
36:47Something about the dog
36:48And she needs to give him money
36:49And then
36:50Yeah, she did call him two days ago
36:52Why did she call me in the first place?
36:54She shouldn't be calling me
36:56Shush, why is she getting so upset unless she's still got feelings?
36:59Because of what?
37:00Because of what?
37:01She's still got feelings obviously
37:02No, because of what you've done
37:03Because of what you've done
37:04Because of what you've done
37:05Because of what you've done
37:06You think you can walk in this office and you say
37:07Yeah, I want you
37:08With the grey hair
37:09I want a bit of you over there
37:10I'm not being rude
37:11Because I'm just
37:12What's the point?
37:13Why don't you just go your separate ways
37:15I see
37:17I see
37:18I see
37:19They've been out together for ages now
37:22All the time
37:23And she somehow gets hold of it and contacts me
37:25You got me £2,000 debt by taking contracts
37:27Oh my name
37:28And
37:29And if it's not been funny, we used to talk as friends.
37:32After we back up, I decided to stay friends with you.
37:34I even didn't care that you had an affair.
37:36I didn't care that you had an affair.
37:38Can I give you some really, really advice that no doubt 5,000 people will write in?
37:43I come from a different land and a different age,
37:46and all the camera will see whether they agree or not.
37:48You know when you break up with somebody,
37:50you know those people who go,
37:51oh, we've broken up on Thursday, we're going to go for a cup of coffee on Saturday as friends.
37:55What a pile of BS.
37:56I don't have...
37:57Try walking in the opposite direction.
38:00It's brilliant.
38:02Really.
38:06There's no need, is there?
38:07Leave her alone!
38:10Leave him alone!
38:11Leave each other alone!
38:13Stop!
38:15You don't even know.
38:18Can't you block each other on Facebook?
38:21Were you sleeping with Charlie before you left her?
38:24Yes.
38:25No, I wasn't.
38:25Does it matter?
38:26Oh, God.
38:27I don't really care.
38:28Why don't you just move on?
38:28Let me move on.
38:29Why don't you just tell him you love him and we're done?
38:31No, thanks.
38:31I'm engaged.
38:32I can't get that.
38:33You're engaged.
38:34Yeah, I don't need that.
38:36I made a statement to the police about the moment 20 hit me.
38:39So, if you made a statement, why have they not contacted me?
38:42Because they don't have enough everything to get used.
38:43Because you've changed your number 15 times?
38:45Police can't get older than you.
38:46She can.
38:47So, there's no need on a serious note for anybody to be in anybody else's.
38:50He's just going to leave me alone.
38:51But it's not nice that when she was with him, she called me up, absolutely bawling her eyes out.
38:57And when he's shouting down the phone, I'm threatening to smash her face in.
39:03No, I never said that.
39:04There's audio.
39:04No, I was on FaceTime.
39:06I was on FaceTime.
39:07Don't even lie.
39:09I never do that.
39:09Don't even lie.
39:10Leave each other alone or one day somebody will get into trouble with the police, won't they?
39:15That's the only thing I can say.
39:16But there is audio of him threatening me on the phone.
39:18This is what I've done.
39:19It's like everyone's going to sit here and think I'm in the wrong place.
39:21Do you want to know what I think?
39:22I buy you, my darling, a little bit more than I buy him.
39:25That's what I'm going to say to you.
39:26However, I suspect somewhere down the line that it becomes, as so many of these stories do,
39:32it becomes a bit of a game, doesn't it?
39:33And people start, you know, one person says one thing and then the other says the other.
39:38I don't mean to lie.
39:38I haven't finished speaking.
39:40Oi.
39:41Sorry.
39:41I haven't finished.
39:42I know this is very boring, but there are a lot worse things happening in the world.
39:47You had a bad experience, you say you had a bad experience, then the answer is very simple.
39:51Go in the opposite directions.
39:53Stop contacting scoring points or whatever.
39:56I did.
39:56Because in the end, and if it is you, and I think it's far more likely to be you than her, by the way, right?
40:02Yeah.
40:02You know?
40:03Yeah.
40:04If she's stalking you, ignore her.
40:05Ignore, ignore, ignore.
40:06If he's stalking you, ignore him.
40:08If one or both of you think the other person's doing that, go to the police and report it.
40:12Apart from that, I'm a busy man.
40:13Go and get on with your lives.
40:14Go.
40:14Be gone.
40:19Well, more am I supposed to say back after the break.
40:21Don't go anywhere.
40:23Stuart, right, gets brought on by your mate Adam.
40:25He said they didn't make bank card, weren't missing.
40:27He passes the test.
40:28You come on and go.
40:29Not bothered about the bank card.
40:30He nicked my son's phone.
40:31No.
40:31What did he nick talk about?
40:32Drugs.
40:33Yeah.
40:33He said, nicking money's one thing, but nicking somebody's weed's absolutely the lowest of the low.
40:39Welcome back.
40:39Did you nick your son's phone?
40:41No, I didn't.
40:41At all.
40:42Do you think you're being lied to?
40:49Do you have evidence to prove it, like home videos, recordings or texts, that you want
40:53to confront someone with?
40:54If you're 18 or over and you'd like to be considered for the show, email talk at itv.com
40:59along with your number, text all, plus your name to 63334, text costs 25 pence, plus one
41:04standard rate message, or you can call my team today.
41:07It's 09011, it's 123456, calls, costs 25 pence, plus network access charge.
41:21Thank you very much.
41:21You might just remember my next guest from a previous show.
41:25Take a look at this, my friends.
41:26Why would old Sticky Fingers Stu, why would he have nicked a card, we shouldn't have any
41:34money taken out of it, and then put it back?
41:36Because obviously I was due to get paid on the next morning, so obviously he took the
41:40card, obviously expecting to take money out of my account.
41:43Did you steal his bank card?
41:45No, not at all.
41:46You know what I'm saying?
41:46Did you nick his bank card?
41:47I didn't nick his bank card.
41:48Do you think he did?
41:49I think he did nick his bank card, because he stole off me.
41:54What, did I steal off you then?
41:55I can't say I'm on national television, but you know what you stole off me, and you're
41:58also, I'm putting you on a lot of textiles to tell you stole my son's phone.
42:01Did you take Adam's bank card from his flat?
42:03You said no, I'd say no.
42:05No, because I was telling the truth.
42:06Of course he was telling the truth.
42:11Well, they're back today.
42:12Stuart has done another test this time, because Peter says he's a tea leaf.
42:16So, who's the accuser?
42:18Peter's on the Jeremy Carl's show that way.
42:20He's a tea leaf.
42:21He's a tea leaf.
42:22He's a tea leaf.
42:23He's a tea leaf.
42:24He's a tea leaf.
42:25Are you OK?
42:26I'm all right.
42:27I'm all right.
42:28I'm all right.
42:29I'm all right.
42:30Right, sit down.
42:31So, it was very simple.
42:32Stuart, right, gets brought on by your mate Adam.
42:33Adam says I befriended him.
42:34He moved in down the road.
42:35We were good mates.
42:36I looked after him.
42:37Helped him out.
42:38He said that my bank card went missing.
42:39I absolutely believe it's him.
42:40Stuart come on the show.
42:42Audience went.
42:43He passes the test.
42:44You come on and go, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but, but, not bothered about the bank card.
42:48He nicked my son's phone.
42:49Yes, but there's all the proof that he's nicked off other people.
42:51We've got proof on the phone, but it hasn't been shown that he has nicked off other people.
42:55So, you're now telling me that you believe he's a thief?
42:57I know he's nicked and he's nicked off me, but the thing he's nicked off me...
42:59You know he's nicked off you?
43:00I know he's nicked off me.
43:01Tell me what happened.
43:02Well, he nicked stuff, but I don't want to mention what he nicked, but he know what he nicked off me.
43:07Drugs?
43:08Yes, drugs.
43:09Yeah, weed, basically.
43:10He nicked weed.
43:11Did you sell it before you sell it to other people, or was that your own?
43:13No, I don't sell it as a small person.
43:14That's my hobby.
43:15That's not my hobby.
43:16That's my conflict.
43:17So, he said to my team, brilliant.
43:18He said, nicking money's one thing, but nicking somebody's weed's absolutely the lowest of
43:21the low.
43:22But with the weed...
43:25So, she sat on the last day with some morality and talked about your son and how devastated
43:29he...
43:30Did you tell your son that you smoke weed or what?
43:31Does he know that?
43:32My son...
43:33My son doesn't know I smoke weed.
43:34No, I smoke weed when my kids.
43:35My kids have got everything.
43:36My weed don't come before my kids.
43:37My kids come before my weed.
43:38That's good.
43:39But what you're saying is he nicked your son's phone.
43:41He nicked my son's phone, yes.
43:42And did what with it?
43:43I was sold cash converted.
43:45What...
43:46What else he does is a thief.
43:47What else a thief.
43:48And you...
43:49Did you...
43:50I'm only asking, because we've done it again for you, because you wanted to...
43:51Did he...
43:52Did you see him nick it?
43:53I didn't see him nick it, no.
43:54It's either been nicked from my son being staying at my brother-law's house, or my house.
43:58There's only certain people that come in my house, is either family or friends, and this
44:02person who's been nicking out of my house is him.
44:04You've been setting traps.
44:05You were, like, leaving lighters around your house.
44:07Leaving little...
44:08Lighters were going missing.
44:09Next day, Stuart would come round, and he'd say, have you got a light?
44:11And he'd do that...
44:12And he'd be the same lighter.
44:13Would it?
44:14Yeah.
44:15And he's saying he's both from the shop.
44:16Well, lighters are lighters, it's different things like that.
44:18But all my friends...
44:19How sure are you that he's a tea leaf?
44:20Serious.
44:21Because I know...
44:22Add you're back as well.
44:23Welcome back.
44:24I've got evidence on my phone.
44:25I've got evidence on the phone.
44:26He's a thief.
44:27He went out and had a one night stand with a bird.
44:29We took him back to Earth property.
44:31Stole us.
44:32No, but we're not doing that.
44:33You said, bring him back, he's nicked my son's phone.
44:36Yes, but I know he's nicked my son's phone.
44:37Well, let's get him out, because that's what the lie detector is.
44:40He says, I didn't steal the bank card, and I didn't steal the phone, and I'll keep coming back, because I'm going to prove you wrong.
44:45Stuart's back on the car show that way.
44:49He's still a thief, though.
44:50He pinched the girl's phone.
44:51Yeah, but hold on a minute.
44:52Can I just say something to you?
44:53He was a thief because he nicked your bank card.
44:54Can I speak?
44:55He's still a thief.
44:56He called me a liar on the last show.
44:57And he passed that.
44:58If he passes, you're still going to be sat there calling him a thief.
44:59No.
45:00Get me my phone.
45:01Get me my phone, and I'll prove he's a thief.
45:02Get me my phone, and I'll prove he's a thief.
45:03It's all the people on his estate.
45:04Welcome back.
45:05Did you nick his son's phone?
45:06No, I didn't.
45:07At all.
45:08Still a thief.
45:09I'll prove he's a thief.
45:10Look at the proof, yeah.
45:11Get me my phone, and I'll prove to you he's a thief.
45:12It's all the people on his estate.
45:13Welcome back.
45:14Did you nick his son's phone?
45:15No, I didn't.
45:16At all.
45:17Still a thief.
45:18Still a thief.
45:19Still a thief.
45:20I feel like it's ground-dogged.
45:21You're going to be calling him a thief.
45:22Right, that's it.
45:23Give me those results.
45:24What's next?
45:25What's next?
45:26It's not that.
45:27Listen.
45:28There's all the people on his estate.
45:29Listen, what he's robbed off.
45:30When it goes out alive, the people are going to be talking to the back.
45:32All right, well, get them all on, because all I'm saying is, he might fail this, but
45:36he's passed with him.
45:37How many people think he...
45:38He's passed one finger.
45:40He's passed one finger.
45:41Don't mean that he ain't a thief.
45:42He's passed both, because he didn't nick his kid's thing either.
45:45I'm going to show you the time, mate.
45:47I'm going to show you the time, mate.
45:48I'm going to show you the way for me.
45:50But what am I supposed to do?
45:52You're a thief.
45:53What am I supposed to do?
45:55We're in a thief, yeah.
45:56It's like saying to you, you're a thief, yeah, right?
45:59Still a thief.
46:00You've actually robbed of someone.
46:02You're in my property.
46:03We know you're a thief, but things are going to miss out of property.
46:05Well, then don't be friends with him, but how many lie detectors do you want me to do?
46:08It's two out of two.
46:10Well, yeah, then ask him about this bird's farm.
46:13What am I saying?
46:15The audience is saying, you've done it twice.
46:18He's passed twice.
46:19I'll tell you what, you know the people that have come out of the woodwork, right?
46:22I'm going to say something.
46:23Bring them on.
46:24And the lame to...
46:25Oi, listen to me.
46:26Come back here a minute.
46:27Come back here.
46:28Yes, I know.
46:29You get...
46:30Listen.
46:31We've been in 13 years.
46:32If you've got anybody else...
46:33Oi!
46:34You've got anybody else from the...
46:35You've got your own baby mum.
46:36He's rob his own son.
46:37Right, I'll tell him.
46:38Why don't we just stay there, I'll get him.
46:39Oi, Stuart, get here.
46:40Get here, get here, get here.
46:41Get here.
46:42Listen, how do you rob your own baby son?
46:43When your baby's in hospital, do you, mate?
46:44How can you do that?
46:45Is...
46:46Did you just say?
46:47Did you just say?
46:48Don't tell me you didn't rob your missies.
46:49Did you rob a 300 quid at your birth and missing?
46:50No, not at all.
46:51Listen.
46:52I just proved you're both wrong.
46:53I didn't take your card.
46:54I didn't take your son's card.
46:55Therefore, this is done.
46:56I don't want to roll with either of you.
46:57Just stay away for a minute.
46:58You stay away for a minute.
46:59You stay away for a minute.
47:00Remember the words in the wall.
47:09You're right in the wall.
47:12Listen, without me scoring...
47:13You're right in the wall.
47:14Listen.
47:15You've come to a room
47:17Listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen.
47:20And listen, when you get the walls, you've asked me to do your testing.
47:22So now you're threatening him on live television, it's such a good smoke read and you make threats on television.
47:33Listen, don't tell me about smoke and all weed.
47:35What's that?
47:37He's got two tests!
47:40What more can I do?
47:42When you get back to wherever you are and they all knock on your door, get them all on.
47:45We'll do 40 more of them.
47:47I want to bring people here to prove these are feets.
47:49The person who was meant to come on the show was too scared to come on the show.
47:52Then get them!
47:53Bring me back!
47:54It's had the whole estate on!
47:56I'll bring them back.
47:57I'll bring them back.
47:58I'll bring them back.
47:59I'll bring them back.
48:00And listen, I'll bring the person who's phone back.
48:01I'll bring that person back.
48:02Then you do that and don't wear that top again.
48:04Get off.
48:05Give him a round of applause.
48:10However many people in your street that you think he's Nick from, bring them all to the Jeremy Kyle show.
48:15We'll do lie detectives.
48:16I am for this morning out of time.
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48:20To the guests for the audience and to you for watching.
48:22I mean, there you are.
48:23I'll see you soon.
48:24Take care.
48:25Bye-bye for now.
48:26I thank you very much.
48:28I'll see you soon.
48:29Thanks, everyone!
48:30Take care.
48:32Let's go first.
48:33See you soon.
48:34Bye-bye.
48:36Do you have any help?
48:38Margo- Recovery?