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00:00:00 (upbeat music)

00:00:02 - Can you say hard hats folks?

00:00:05 Hard hats, much pale steel to a boots.

00:00:07 - Anything short of a championship this year is a fail.

00:00:09 - It's time to look at this boomer right here.

00:00:11 - You've just got so much talent here.

00:00:14 - Somebody said we need to apologize for Jalen.

00:00:16 - Can I pull the John?

00:00:17 What are we apologizing for?

00:00:18 What'd we say?

00:00:19 What'd we do?

00:00:20 (upbeat music)

00:00:29 - Wow, we're good to roll in, but I'll tell you what Amit.

00:00:31 Amit, producer Amit in the back.

00:00:34 We don't need to roll in tonight.

00:00:36 Not after this one.

00:00:38 Not after this one.

00:00:40 How's everybody doing?

00:00:42 Joe Swaye Pavone in the building with Jimmy Toscano here.

00:00:46 What is that?

00:00:47 What is that sound?

00:00:48 Who's messing around with like the audio and graphics?

00:00:51 - It's probably you, Jimmy.

00:00:52 - That's not me, dude.

00:00:54 Someone's trying to frame me here.

00:00:56 - You're jumping something so bright.

00:00:57 - Someone's trying to frame me here, man, already.

00:00:59 - Amit's got the jokes tonight.

00:01:02 - Unbelievable Amit from Atlanta.

00:01:04 - Boomer right here.

00:01:07 - Yeah, Amit's on.

00:01:08 Hey, I'm glad Amit's having a good time

00:01:10 'cause you know what, Joe Swaye?

00:01:12 That was tough to watch as the Celtics drop

00:01:14 a 120 to 118 game in Atlanta to a-

00:01:18 - The whole city of Atlanta

00:01:19 about to have a good time tonight.

00:01:20 - A beaten and battered Atlanta team

00:01:23 that had no business even being in this game.

00:01:27 The Celtics go up 30 points and they lose.

00:01:31 They completely disappear in the second half.

00:01:34 Things go south.

00:01:35 Things started to go south late

00:01:36 in that second quarter, Joe Swaye.

00:01:39 There weren't any adjustments

00:01:40 or enough adjustments this afternoon.

00:01:42 Hawks come out firing to start the third quarter.

00:01:44 Missoula decides to keep play going.

00:01:48 Doesn't want to call a timeout.

00:01:49 Wants to see if the players can figure it out on their own

00:01:52 as we've seen them try to do over and over and over

00:01:54 over the last few years.

00:01:56 And as we've seen many, many times over,

00:01:59 they do not figure it out.

00:02:00 Missoula has to call a timeout.

00:02:02 The damage was done at that point.

00:02:03 The Hawks were officially back into the game.

00:02:06 And fourth quarter, more of the same.

00:02:10 And the Hawks pulled one off.

00:02:12 They pulled one off in the end.

00:02:14 I would say a combination of lackluster defense

00:02:18 by the Celtics, floppy play on the offensive end.

00:02:23 Again, living by the three in the first half,

00:02:25 dying by the three in the second half.

00:02:28 And this is your result, Joe Swaye.

00:02:31 Speechless.

00:02:32 - Yeah, man, I was speechless.

00:02:34 Just how fast things happened, right?

00:02:37 And obviously the Celtics didn't get the lead back

00:02:39 in safe territory, so to speak, right?

00:02:43 Got it back to double digits, but the Miami,

00:02:44 I mean, the Atlanta Hawks, I should say,

00:02:48 man, they just completely switched up

00:02:50 their approach on defense.

00:02:51 All of a sudden, they cared on that end of the floor.

00:02:53 And man, Krejci's knocking down threes.

00:02:56 You got, you know, Matthew's knocking down threes.

00:02:59 It was insane, Jimmy.

00:03:00 This guy's a two-way player.

00:03:02 Guy's just going all.

00:03:04 - Talk about doing the YouTube highlight reel.

00:03:06 Oh my God, I had to pull that one out.

00:03:08 - I'm sure you were looking at his mixtape

00:03:10 and like, where did this guy come from?

00:03:11 - It's like, even Krejci's playing basketball now.

00:03:14 - Man, no lead is safe with the Celtics, man.

00:03:17 Like, this is it.

00:03:18 Like, this has to be like their mindset

00:03:21 going into the playoffs.

00:03:22 And you have to adapt to that

00:03:25 because it's one of those things

00:03:26 where if you're the Celtics, it's like,

00:03:27 we can never, ever, ever let something like this

00:03:29 happen again, you know?

00:03:30 How many times has it happened this season?

00:03:32 And this is the worst one.

00:03:33 And look, I'm not saying the sky's falling here.

00:03:35 I don't think the Celtics have all of a sudden lost.

00:03:38 I don't think the chances of them winning a championship

00:03:39 has diminished, but it's a humongous flaw to have, Jimmy.

00:03:43 No lead is safe, no lead is safe.

00:03:44 You can't ever say that about the Celtics.

00:03:47 - Look at this, look at this, Josue.

00:03:49 Celtics blow a 30 point lead for the first time since '96.

00:03:52 - That happened too quickly, Jimmy.

00:03:54 Okay, no lead is safe.

00:03:56 All right, the rebounding, you know,

00:03:58 all of a sudden, Bruno Fernando

00:04:00 getting aggressive in the paint,

00:04:02 and the Hawks just stole the momentum completely.

00:04:05 And they did it in a hurry.

00:04:06 All of a sudden, it's a two point game,

00:04:08 and you're not even in the fourth quarter.

00:04:09 So look, I just think this has to be

00:04:14 like the ultimate lesson for this team

00:04:17 at this point of the season.

00:04:18 Like, sure, you had the best record in the NBA.

00:04:20 Sure, you had this humongous historic lead

00:04:22 at the top of the Eastern Conference,

00:04:23 but that's not gonna secure you a championship.

00:04:25 And by the way, this could be a team you see

00:04:27 in the first round, you know?

00:04:29 But man, that happened in a hurry.

00:04:32 - Josue, I'm still trying to piece it all together, Jimmy.

00:04:35 - Yeah, I mean, hey.

00:04:35 - What do you make of this thing?

00:04:36 I saw you on the group chat going off,

00:04:38 but I wanna know, like, after you've, you know,

00:04:41 kind of had a couple of minutes here before the show started,

00:04:42 I'm sure you got some things brewing here

00:04:44 that you wanted to drop on me.

00:04:47 - Yeah, we're all trying to, I think,

00:04:50 wrap our heads around what just happened.

00:04:51 But I mean, the lower third stat here, Josue,

00:04:54 South Dix Bluff 30 point lead for the first time

00:04:55 since '96, '97.

00:04:57 That '96, '97 team, Josue, was probably the worst,

00:05:02 I think it was the worst South Dix team of all time.

00:05:05 - That was Antoine's year, right?

00:05:07 Rookie year, I think.

00:05:07 - They went 15 and 67 that year, Josue.

00:05:12 So what's stunning to me is that they ever even

00:05:15 had a 30 point lead in that season.

00:05:17 It's not stunning to me that they blew it.

00:05:18 This South Dix team, the way they're constructed,

00:05:20 and yes, no Derek White's tonight, no Drew Holiday,

00:05:23 we get it, we get it.

00:05:24 The starting guards weren't in the game.

00:05:27 There is no excuse to drop a game

00:05:30 that you had a 30 point lead in.

00:05:31 I don't care if your starters are all sitting

00:05:35 or what the situation is.

00:05:38 You're a team.

00:05:39 With this roster construction, you can afford to miss it.

00:05:41 And we've seen the South Dix win plenty of games

00:05:43 without all five of their starters

00:05:46 or even four of their starters.

00:05:48 So not really an excuse.

00:05:50 The way that they went up in this one,

00:05:52 you have to figure out a way to maintain the lead.

00:05:54 It's the NBA.

00:05:55 We know that it's a game of runs

00:05:56 and you're not really expecting them

00:05:58 to hold a 30 point lead for the remainder,

00:06:00 but to let the Hawks come back the way they did,

00:06:04 a team that's down and out,

00:06:06 their best players aren't not even playing,

00:06:09 and to allow it to happen,

00:06:11 it's like the PTSD again, Joseph.

00:06:15 And that's what it comes down to.

00:06:15 No one here tonight, at least on this show tonight,

00:06:19 because John Zanis isn't with us,

00:06:21 and say this team's toast, this team's done,

00:06:26 they don't have what it takes.

00:06:28 But I will say this, it's your biggest fear.

00:06:32 It's your biggest fear, I think,

00:06:33 is with this team, with the makeup of this team,

00:06:37 is that, like you said earlier, no lead is safe.

00:06:40 And it's a mentality thing.

00:06:42 Jalen Brown's gonna go up on the podium

00:06:44 or speak to reporters after the game,

00:06:45 he's gonna say the same thing that he has said

00:06:48 many, many times after losses like this.

00:06:50 We let our foot off the gas,

00:06:52 we didn't come up with that same energy.

00:06:54 I think when we saw that their best players weren't playing,

00:06:58 we sort of took it for granted.

00:06:59 It's the same Groundhog Day type answers, right?

00:07:04 And I have no idea what he's gonna say.

00:07:05 And actually, speaking of that, Joe Sway,

00:07:08 why don't we go find out what Coach Joe had to say

00:07:10 after this?

00:07:11 - Yeah, Joe's up first.

00:07:13 See what he says.

00:07:14 - We got a clip here that Ahmed added.

00:07:16 By the way, Bobby Manning is in Atlanta.

00:07:19 He will be joining us at some point during the show.

00:07:21 Producer Ahmed is in Atlanta.

00:07:23 We'll see how that goes.

00:07:25 One of Ahmed's favorite cities.

00:07:28 But anyways, let's see what we got here from Joe.

00:07:31 - Nine, what seemed to be live ball turnovers for points.

00:07:34 And then they shot the ball really well from three.

00:07:36 So we got off to a really good start,

00:07:38 but it's a good lesson when you let a team hang around.

00:07:41 They made those margin plays,

00:07:43 points up turnovers, three pointers, offensive rebounds,

00:07:46 and credit to them for battling back.

00:07:48 - What kind of learning experience is this for you guys?

00:07:51 What's kind of the big takeaway you have from this?

00:07:54 - I mean, just so it would be in any game.

00:07:55 Just gotta start quarters, end quarters well,

00:07:58 and execution, and then the idea of putting teams away

00:08:01 when you can.

00:08:02 So, you know, there's been, that's like 58 now, at least,

00:08:05 but you know, there's 58 times a 20 point lead

00:08:07 has either been tied, or the other team has taken the lead.

00:08:11 So it's the stuff like that's gonna happen.

00:08:13 We have to learn how to manage it,

00:08:14 continue to learn how to manage it.

00:08:15 We do by managing runs, beginning quarter, end of quarter,

00:08:19 and then the margins.

00:08:20 You know, those things are the most important,

00:08:21 regardless of who you play.

00:08:23 - Joe, what happened to the offense in the second half?

00:08:25 It seemed like you guys scored 44 points.

00:08:28 - Yeah.

00:08:29 - And then you scored 44 points in the first quarter.

00:08:31 - Yeah.

00:08:32 Well, one, I think we shot like 40% from three

00:08:34 in the first quarter.

00:08:35 So I thought we got some good looks that we missed,

00:08:38 but I thought their physicality, you know,

00:08:40 they were extremely physical

00:08:42 as soon as the ball got over half court.

00:08:43 I thought that messed up just our offense,

00:08:45 and they made us work for everything.

00:08:46 So I thought they defended us pretty well,

00:08:48 and I thought we missed some really good looks,

00:08:50 you know, Peyton, Sams, Fee, KP, some of those guys.

00:08:53 So, you know, credit to them for their physicality.

00:08:55 - Yeah.

00:08:59 I mean, it's a good thing they did that, Jimmy,

00:09:00 because it made all the difference in the world.

00:09:02 I just felt like when the Celtics got out

00:09:04 to that humongous lead, it was like,

00:09:06 this is historic, literally, right?

00:09:08 I think it was the first time since like the mid '90s,

00:09:11 around the same time that the Celtics,

00:09:13 I guess, blew that huge lead back in the mid '90s,

00:09:16 that you had so many players in double figures

00:09:20 going into the second quarter.

00:09:21 - And three guys, yeah.

00:09:22 Three guys in double figures.

00:09:23 - You couldn't slow them down, you know,

00:09:25 between Porzingis, Tatum, and Brown.

00:09:27 I mean, Tatum and Brown combined for almost 30 points

00:09:29 in that first quarter.

00:09:30 It was insane.

00:09:31 And then Porzingis is heating up.

00:09:32 You got Peyton Pritchard continuing the stretch

00:09:36 of impressive basketball that he's been on,

00:09:38 being that facilitator, showing that he can be someone

00:09:40 that you can rely on to hold down the offense,

00:09:43 to run the offense, I should say.

00:09:45 And then all of a sudden, the Atlanta Hawks apply,

00:09:47 make adjustments, shout out to head coach Quinn Snyder,

00:09:49 who of course, you know, had a best of seven series

00:09:52 last year against this team.

00:09:53 And it just seemed like in his face, he's just like,

00:09:54 man, we're gonna, I wanna make this, you know,

00:09:57 this is gonna be an interesting game in the second half,

00:10:00 because you saw the comeback already taking,

00:10:03 starting to take form, I should say,

00:10:05 in that first half, in the second quarter.

00:10:07 It felt like when they came out

00:10:09 with that different approach,

00:10:10 that's when everything changed,

00:10:11 between applying extra pressure on Pritchard,

00:10:14 between getting extra possessions, rebounding,

00:10:17 just Bruno Fernando, like, it was one of those, like,

00:10:20 okay, we're gonna leave it all out on the floor,

00:10:22 and let's just see if that leads to great possessions

00:10:25 and open shots.

00:10:26 And it did.

00:10:27 All of a sudden, the three-point line opens up

00:10:28 for the Hawks, and they just started completely,

00:10:32 just taking control of the game, I feel like.

00:10:34 Again, I said earlier, the Celtics took it back.

00:10:37 They bring the, the Hawks fight their way back,

00:10:40 and all of a sudden, you know,

00:10:41 three minutes, two minutes into the game,

00:10:42 it's anyone's game.

00:10:44 And I just hate that scenario for the Celtics.

00:10:46 I really do, Jimmy.

00:10:47 I don't trust them in those spots.

00:10:50 I love to see Jalen Brown go straight to the hoop,

00:10:53 you know, seeking the high percentage shots,

00:10:55 'cause he was, whether it was off the switches,

00:10:58 or whether it was beating his man one-on-one,

00:11:00 he had the upper hand, and I like that.

00:11:02 But then all of a sudden, he gets the ball again,

00:11:04 and he did, like, the bad version of Tatum, you know?

00:11:08 Remember when he just dribbles out the clock,

00:11:09 and all of a sudden, he's looking for a screen,

00:11:11 he's getting farther and farther away from the basket,

00:11:13 and the clock's going down to seven, six, five,

00:11:15 and all of a sudden, you barely have a chance

00:11:17 to make a quality shot, or at least,

00:11:19 or get past your man.

00:11:21 So I just thought that, that little, that,

00:11:23 those were, they just add up in the end.

00:11:26 I feel like the Celtics are just prone

00:11:27 to make those mistakes if it's a close game,

00:11:30 and there's only a couple minutes left to play,

00:11:31 or in that instance, you know, 10, 12 seconds.

00:11:35 - Yeah, I mean, are you okay with what Mazzullo said?

00:11:40 I mean, basically, just saying,

00:11:42 it felt like the Hawks were going to the 50-50 balls,

00:11:46 winning between the plays.

00:11:47 I mean, you saw some sloppiness from the Celtics

00:11:49 during the second half, whether it was, you know,

00:11:51 Tatum walking the ball up to an eight-second violation there,

00:11:55 that's kind of unacceptable.

00:11:57 I know he didn't like it,

00:11:58 but obviously it was close enough in the official's eyes

00:12:00 where, I mean, dude, just come on.

00:12:02 And there's nobody even playing defense on you

00:12:05 at that point.

00:12:06 The Celtics were at least pressuring the Hawks full court

00:12:09 at points during this game,

00:12:11 but that's just one example of, you know,

00:12:15 just your head not being in the game in that second half.

00:12:20 And again, it started late in that second quarter.

00:12:22 You could see it, 30 points,

00:12:24 all of a sudden it becomes 20 points,

00:12:25 and then right out of the gate, sure enough,

00:12:28 you know, the Hawks continue that.

00:12:32 So Tatum, again, it was a tale of two halves.

00:12:35 I mean, he finishes with 37 points.

00:12:38 The three-pointer wasn't really there tonight,

00:12:39 especially in the second half for anybody.

00:12:42 A rebounds five assists, two steals.

00:12:44 Other than that, though,

00:12:46 I wouldn't say that there was a lot of,

00:12:49 a ton of help on the offensive end.

00:12:51 And we want to get into Porzingis a little bit later,

00:12:53 later in this one, we'll talk to Bobby

00:12:55 and figure out if something's been a little bit off

00:12:57 with Porzingis.

00:12:59 Brown, 24 points, 10 of 22 from the field.

00:13:02 Again, two of seven from three.

00:13:03 These guys from three tonight weren't hitting the way

00:13:06 that the Celtics needed them to.

00:13:08 I mean, you had Hauser got to go cold there

00:13:10 in that second half.

00:13:11 Pritchard had some problems,

00:13:12 and damn, is everyone going to give him the too little now?

00:13:16 'Cause I felt like that happened to him again tonight.

00:13:19 - Yeah, it's kind of an easy go-to, you know?

00:13:22 You just kind of have that look

00:13:23 where you just want to be like, ah, this-

00:13:24 - Short shaming, man.

00:13:25 Not on this show.

00:13:26 You won't get that on this show, Josue.

00:13:28 - No, not tonight.

00:13:30 But the, you know,

00:13:33 the guy in this equation, he was on the wrong end of it, man.

00:13:38 Like Pritchard just, hey, it's a great experience for him

00:13:42 to learn to be in those tough spots.

00:13:44 Not always easy how the defense can make adjustments

00:13:46 on the fly, and all of a sudden,

00:13:47 it seemed like it was easy,

00:13:48 and everything was coming together the way he wanted it to,

00:13:52 until all of a sudden, the extra pressure,

00:13:54 the switches, I felt like really disrupted him.

00:13:57 But yeah, man, I just feel like the Atlanta Hawks,

00:13:59 they just, they put forth the effort

00:14:02 on the defensive end of the floor

00:14:03 that the Southerners just weren't ready for,

00:14:04 because it came out of nowhere.

00:14:06 Like, they weren't doing that in the first half,

00:14:08 you know, not even close to it,

00:14:09 even throughout that second quarter, or the tail end of it.

00:14:12 You know, Mazzullo always talks about ending quarters

00:14:14 on a high note.

00:14:15 You can easily say the Hawks really were the ones

00:14:18 that were carrying, not the momentum, I should say,

00:14:21 but they were a bit more confident

00:14:23 at the end of the second quarter

00:14:26 than they were at the start of the second, if you ask me.

00:14:28 So I just think all it took for them

00:14:30 is to get off to a great third quarter.

00:14:32 That's exactly what happened.

00:14:33 All of a sudden, it wasn't a double-digit deficit anymore.

00:14:36 - No, and-

00:14:39 - What do you think about what Jared here said?

00:14:40 That's interesting, because it was point tatum, right?

00:14:44 Before JV, I felt like, sort of had the hot hand.

00:14:47 I felt like he was seeking the high percentage shots.

00:14:49 You know, I love what he was doing,

00:14:51 compared to what he was doing in the second quarter.

00:14:52 I feel like he was taking a lot of,

00:14:54 he was selling for a lot of threes in that second quarter

00:14:56 when the Hawks started to kind of build,

00:14:58 little by little, chipping away at that 30-point deficit.

00:15:00 But, you know, I didn't hate seeing the ball

00:15:04 in Jalen's hands, though, because, again,

00:15:05 he did the right thing in the second-to-last possession

00:15:09 or so, and then when he-

00:15:11 - I mean, it's not ideal.

00:15:12 I mean, let's be honest.

00:15:13 I mean, this was my concern going into this game

00:15:15 when they announced that Holiday and White were out.

00:15:18 You have Pritchard who, again, give Pritchard credit

00:15:21 for the way he's played as of late

00:15:23 and his ability to contribute,

00:15:25 but he's coming off the bench for a reason.

00:15:27 And there are size differences.

00:15:29 There are mismatches that the Hawks can

00:15:31 and try to exploit there.

00:15:32 When you're without your two guards,

00:15:34 there's obviously gonna be complications,

00:15:38 I think is probably a word to use,

00:15:40 with the offense and running the offense

00:15:42 the ideal way that you'd run it.

00:15:43 I mean, that you have either Holiday or White.

00:15:45 If one of those two guys are out there

00:15:47 in the playoffs at all times,

00:15:48 you don't run into a fraction of the issues

00:15:51 that you can run into in a situation

00:15:53 where you need to execute down the stretch

00:15:55 and it's Tatum, it's point Tatum or point Brown

00:15:59 and everybody else is just kind of caught looking around

00:16:01 at that point because your options do kind of

00:16:04 become much more limited in that situation.

00:16:06 And so if that's the one spin zone

00:16:09 you wanna come out of this one is that,

00:16:11 this never happens if you've got your guards in the game,

00:16:15 then maybe you can make that point.

00:16:16 And again, I think that's why you take this one

00:16:21 with a grain of salt, not to make excuses.

00:16:23 It's pathetic that they would allow a 30 point

00:16:28 comeback in this fashion,

00:16:29 but you have to try to find the middle ground a little bit.

00:16:33 This isn't gonna be the doomsday game for them,

00:16:38 but it does bring up some,

00:16:42 again, I said the word PTSD earlier.

00:16:44 It just brings up old fears, I guess,

00:16:48 you know what I mean?

00:16:49 Of situations where you're looking for that killer instinct

00:16:53 in these types of games.

00:16:54 Just put the team to bed.

00:16:55 The talent level is so much higher on your end.

00:16:58 The one thing you wanna look at, right?

00:17:01 No, it is, but that's the thing is you gotta-

00:17:03 - They weren't doing the same things.

00:17:04 - Right, you gotta, but you,

00:17:06 they weren't doing the same things,

00:17:08 but they also, I think that they just let the momentum

00:17:10 kind of flip completely.

00:17:11 But you look at the last, I think three or four games,

00:17:14 even though prior to this game,

00:17:15 the Celtics are still winning those games,

00:17:17 they're doing it in a way where I'm not sure

00:17:20 you can do it the same way in the playoffs.

00:17:21 They're not relying at all on defense right now,

00:17:24 it's as a seed.

00:17:25 They're allowing teams to shoot 50 plus percent

00:17:27 from the field against them.

00:17:31 And they are relying, I think, just on talent,

00:17:35 you know, out scoring basically, right?

00:17:38 Which at the end of the day, great.

00:17:39 That's what it's all about.

00:17:40 But I think in the playoffs,

00:17:41 there's a different mentality that takes place.

00:17:43 Teams clamp down, opponents will clamp down

00:17:46 on the defensive end.

00:17:47 And if you get in a situation where you are relying

00:17:52 too heavily on that three point shot,

00:17:54 and it sways as dramatically as it does tonight,

00:17:58 that's how you lose a lead so quickly, Joe Sway.

00:18:01 If you're just praying that these threes are fine,

00:18:03 and they were fine at 50% rate, I think, in the first half.

00:18:06 So yeah, that explains why you're up 20 points

00:18:08 or whatever it was.

00:18:09 - Yeah, we got triggered.

00:18:10 That's true.

00:18:11 - Soon as that stops falling,

00:18:13 okay, run some plays, call timeout,

00:18:16 draw some things up, work the ball around.

00:18:18 When they were moving the ball, even without the guards,

00:18:20 there were points in this one

00:18:21 where they were moving the ball,

00:18:22 and they were scoring with ease.

00:18:25 That starts to slow down.

00:18:26 And then all of a sudden,

00:18:27 you start to play a little bit more reactive than proactive.

00:18:31 You're not getting the stops on the defensive end.

00:18:33 Now you're not getting out and running.

00:18:35 And oh, shoot, now the threes aren't falling either.

00:18:37 So now you're playing,

00:18:39 now you have to get back on defense,

00:18:40 long shots, long rebounds situation.

00:18:42 The Hawks got out and run,

00:18:44 and they had guys come through for them tonight.

00:18:45 I don't even, I mean, Creechie.

00:18:47 Who was the other guy that got hut for them?

00:18:50 Where is it?

00:18:52 - The Matthews?

00:18:55 Which one?

00:18:56 - Well, actually, looking at it, there was a few, but yeah.

00:18:59 I mean, it wasn't Matthews, but-

00:19:00 - A few?

00:19:02 Oh, you mean the players.

00:19:03 - Bogdan, Bogdan was hitting shots late in the game.

00:19:06 And Hunter-

00:19:07 - Wow, he hit a big one in transition.

00:19:08 That was the one that-

00:19:09 - Yeah, Hunter had, yeah.

00:19:10 That was the one that put him up.

00:19:11 - And then Hunter, man.

00:19:13 Just to have the stones to take that shot.

00:19:15 Like, you're supposed to get foul on that.

00:19:17 He goes, he hits the three.

00:19:18 That's when you're like, okay, this is,

00:19:20 South Dakota's probably gonna win this game, you know?

00:19:23 It's unfortunate.

00:19:24 I just think,

00:19:24 I just think when the Celtics,

00:19:28 when the offense, like, you know what?

00:19:30 You're right, Jermaine.

00:19:31 I just think it starts on the defensive end of the floor,

00:19:35 and that starting five,

00:19:36 it's just not the same without Derek White, man.

00:19:38 Like, I just, I mean,

00:19:41 obviously coming off of what he's been doing of late,

00:19:44 player of the week, all that,

00:19:46 what he means to the defense,

00:19:47 what he means to the offense, essentially.

00:19:49 But especially on the defensive end,

00:19:50 I just feel like when he's making these key stops,

00:19:52 it's like, it's almost contagious.

00:19:53 All of a sudden, everyone else wants to,

00:19:55 wants to step it up on that end of the floor, you know?

00:19:57 And this is one of those games

00:19:58 where they could have really used him.

00:20:00 But I just thought that someone like Peyton Pritchard,

00:20:03 you know, this was a great spot for him.

00:20:04 I wasn't, it wasn't one of those games where I'm like,

00:20:07 man, why didn't White play?

00:20:08 Or it was too bad.

00:20:09 Because at this point of the season,

00:20:11 you want someone like Pritchard

00:20:12 to get an opportunity like this.

00:20:14 And he was thriving, you know, in that first half.

00:20:16 So it's unfortunate that he was unable to adjust,

00:20:21 or at least, you know,

00:20:22 when the adjustments happened

00:20:23 on the defensive end of the floor for the Hawks,

00:20:25 whether it was point tatum,

00:20:26 or whether it was Brown down the stretch, you know,

00:20:29 this team just couldn't figure it out

00:20:30 because they kept them at bay for a little bit,

00:20:32 but then back, they can't,

00:20:33 the transition buckets, you know,

00:20:35 rebounding, something settling for threes,

00:20:37 a lot of three-point shots,

00:20:38 I felt like that just turned into transition layups

00:20:40 for the Hawks, you know,

00:20:41 it's just one of those things that happens so fast.

00:20:45 And you think it's, you say,

00:20:46 okay, well, Celtics,

00:20:47 they've been through this so many times this year,

00:20:49 you know, they're gonna do the right thing,

00:20:51 but you give up, you lose one key possession,

00:20:55 and it's just one of those things where you,

00:20:59 that's how thin the-

00:21:00 - What do you think of this question?

00:21:02 Thank you, Eric, by the way.

00:21:03 - Hunter makes a three, and it's game over pretty much.

00:21:06 - Eric Polanco asks,

00:21:08 late game offense is going to lose us tight games

00:21:10 in the playoffs.

00:21:12 It's so predictable, do you guys agree, Josue?

00:21:16 - Yes, absolutely, I don't trust this team

00:21:18 down the stretch, man, I told you,

00:21:20 you know, flip a coin,

00:21:22 I don't like to sell those chances, it's 50-50, you know,

00:21:25 because you don't know if it's gonna,

00:21:27 if Tatum's gonna make the right play,

00:21:30 if it's gonna be Brown,

00:21:31 I mean, sometimes it feels like,

00:21:33 most of the time it's Tatum,

00:21:34 but in this game, I love that it was Brown,

00:21:36 you know, at least that, the last two possessions,

00:21:39 he didn't make the right decision that very last one,

00:21:42 but I just think the Southers have to get that down, man,

00:21:45 and it's one of those things where, like,

00:21:47 you're really encouraging teams, you know,

00:21:49 to just stick around,

00:21:51 and you put yourself in a position to win,

00:21:53 and the Southers, they'll fold,

00:21:54 they'll stumble on themselves,

00:21:56 and you'll have chances,

00:21:59 but you gotta seize the moment, obviously,

00:22:00 and Hunter did that in a big way by shooting that three,

00:22:02 he didn't wanna go into overtime,

00:22:04 he was like, "Look, whatever,

00:22:04 "I'm gonna take the chance here."

00:22:06 - Yeah, that was, no, he's just an idiot,

00:22:07 he's just an idiot, that's right.

00:22:09 - No, he didn't want it.

00:22:09 - I think he got caught up,

00:22:11 I think he got caught up in it.

00:22:12 - I can put these guys to sleep right now,

00:22:15 and he did it, man, he did it.

00:22:17 - Nah, don't say that.

00:22:17 - I mean, look, that's not the reason why

00:22:19 they wanted to be in the game.

00:22:20 - He could've just rippled out the clock, practically,

00:22:23 instead, but whatever, it went in,

00:22:26 and yeah, like you said,

00:22:27 whether it was balls of steel or rocks in your brain,

00:22:30 one or the other, either way.

00:22:31 - One or the other.

00:22:32 - It went their way, so, yeah, I mean,

00:22:36 listen, I had the same concerns,

00:22:38 but I didn't as, and the reason why it's different

00:22:42 is because I have a lot of trust in Holiday,

00:22:44 I have a lot of trust in White,

00:22:46 I have a lot of trust in Borzingas,

00:22:47 and we've seen what Tatum and Brown can do,

00:22:49 and I think you,

00:22:50 trust them a little bit less

00:22:56 because we've seen both sides of them a little bit more,

00:22:59 right, in those situations where they've either

00:23:03 made the big shot or the bonehead turnover, right,

00:23:06 or just a bonehead play, so, again,

00:23:08 there is that aspect of you're like,

00:23:09 okay, have we outgrown this, have we moved forward,

00:23:12 and are we gonna execute down the stretch?

00:23:14 Do you trust Joe?

00:23:15 That's another question, down the stretch,

00:23:17 in a tight game, to understand the situation

00:23:21 and have a play lined up,

00:23:22 and not just have it be Tatum, Iso, or whatever.

00:23:25 It's pretty much seems to be like the default,

00:23:27 and that was criticism earlier this season,

00:23:30 was that everybody in the world knew

00:23:33 it was gonna go to Tatum.

00:23:34 Why?

00:23:34 You have Borzingas, you have other options on this team now

00:23:37 that can be just as effective, if not more,

00:23:40 so that's why I'm not asking Sir and Josie,

00:23:42 there are better options this year.

00:23:44 I think we can all agree that the team

00:23:45 has been firing on all cylinders, again,

00:23:48 prior to the last 30 minutes of this basketball game, but--

00:23:52 - RIP the win streak, huh?

00:23:56 - Yeah, it needed to end at some point, I guess, right?

00:23:59 And there are people in the chat saying,

00:24:02 they needed a loss like this,

00:24:05 or it's just one, blah, blah, blah,

00:24:07 and maybe that's true.

00:24:09 Again, that's another little bit of a spin zone,

00:24:11 but for me, I think it would have made everybody

00:24:15 feel a hell of a lot better if,

00:24:17 let's say they blow the lead,

00:24:18 but they figure out a way to close it out, right?

00:24:22 And we saw that, I think last week,

00:24:23 they had a similar situation where they closed it out late.

00:24:26 So that's my issue out of this game.

00:24:30 It's not that they lost, it's whatever,

00:24:34 one loss out of the way that they've been playing,

00:24:37 it's not a big deal, it's just that it's how they lost.

00:24:40 It's not having that,

00:24:44 you wanna have the freaking killer instinct

00:24:47 to not allow the comeback, A,

00:24:48 and then you wanna say, you know what, all right,

00:24:50 we're done effing around,

00:24:51 let's put these guys to bed here late in the game,

00:24:54 whether it's Tatum or Brown or--

00:24:55 - Yeah, but they don't--

00:24:56 - Or Przingis.

00:24:58 - I'm not saying this is always the case, Jimmy,

00:24:59 but they didn't have it this time.

00:25:01 I mean, look, I love the throw down dunk by Tatum,

00:25:04 the rah-rah moment, that's great,

00:25:05 but did it cost him an eight second violation to wake up?

00:25:10 Possibly, you know what I mean?

00:25:11 I just think it was one of those quarters

00:25:13 where it was just like, he's taking his time,

00:25:15 he's like, oh, everything's gonna be okay,

00:25:17 and the Hawks just said, look, we're not going anywhere.

00:25:21 Essentially, that's what they said all fourth quarter,

00:25:23 and obviously, they had to hit some big shots as well,

00:25:25 but they scrapped, man, they fought for possessions,

00:25:28 they won 50-50 balls, they drew fouls,

00:25:32 key fouls, big fouls.

00:25:33 I mean, look, I thought Springer was,

00:25:35 to be put in that spot, he certainly made the most of it,

00:25:39 but he made a foul as well,

00:25:42 that put the team into the penalty,

00:25:44 and then the Southlakes, I mean,

00:25:45 the Hawks capitalized on that,

00:25:46 they got that free throw line over and over again

00:25:48 in those last couple of minutes,

00:25:49 so I just think it's all, it was just a snowball effect,

00:25:53 essentially, of what we've seen in the past.

00:25:55 PTSD college, I mean, yeah, I mean, yeah,

00:25:58 that's pretty much what it is,

00:25:59 because we've seen this before,

00:26:01 we've seen the criteria of a Southlakes breakdown

00:26:04 when they have a humongous lead,

00:26:05 but never like this, 30 points, man, that's a,

00:26:09 look, I'm not saying, again, I said at the top,

00:26:13 it doesn't diminish the Southlakes' chances,

00:26:14 but man, it really does apply extra pressure

00:26:18 when they're back into these situations,

00:26:20 especially in the postseason.

00:26:22 I just hope they're ready for it,

00:26:23 I just hope they are, I'm not quite sure.

00:26:26 - So 120, 118, Josue,

00:26:28 that's what our golf scores probably look like too,

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00:27:10 I know we're still like,

00:27:11 we're ramping up here for playoff basketball,

00:27:13 but once the sun comes out and we get,

00:27:15 I mean, here in New England, man, it's cold as hell still,

00:27:17 but we can get the temp up to about like 50s,

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00:27:48 I'm gonna get a couple of polos,

00:27:50 gotta get the fitted polos, Josue,

00:27:51 you know what I'm saying?

00:27:52 - Oh yeah.

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00:27:54 the quarter zip, you can't go wrong with the quarter zip,

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00:27:57 If you're gonna hack it up,

00:27:59 yeah, if you're gonna hack it up

00:28:00 for like 120 strokes or whatever,

00:28:01 you gotta at least look good doing so.

00:28:03 Fake it till you make it, so.

00:28:05 - I feel like that's your go-to,

00:28:07 is that what your go-to is in the summer?

00:28:09 You know, that and some khaki shorts, something like that?

00:28:11 - Oh, for sure, dude, you can't go wrong with that.

00:28:13 And hopefully, hopefully the Celtics,

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00:28:23 So, one guy we haven't talked about yet, Josue.

00:28:26 What is this?

00:28:28 What did I just do?

00:28:29 Did I do something here?

00:28:30 That was a mistake, I think.

00:28:34 One guy we haven't talked about is Christas Porzingis.

00:28:38 And bit of a quiet one tonight,

00:28:41 seven to 14 from the field, 17 points,

00:28:43 five rebounds, three blocks, minus seven

00:28:45 for the Celtics tonight.

00:28:48 Anything to be concerned about with Porzingis?

00:28:51 He's been in and out of the lineup,

00:28:53 banged up here and there.

00:28:55 Again, not really the effective,

00:28:59 not really the effective night you wanted to see from him.

00:29:02 Pretty quiet, all things considered.

00:29:04 And certainly, not much help down the stretch.

00:29:07 - Yeah, you know, I just thought

00:29:10 the Hawks did a really good job

00:29:13 trying to keep him out of his sweet spot.

00:29:14 You know, when the ball,

00:29:16 when he's around the free throw line

00:29:18 and trying to get the ball going,

00:29:19 and I feel like when the offense is really flowing,

00:29:21 like he's a key part of that.

00:29:22 And I felt like when the Celtics offense

00:29:24 started to get going,

00:29:25 he kind of let Jalen and Tatum do the thing.

00:29:27 He got those quick 10 points in the first quarter.

00:29:29 And I feel like outside of that, or after that rather,

00:29:32 he couldn't really find his offensive rhythm.

00:29:33 You know, I think he couldn't,

00:29:34 he was trying to get to his spots.

00:29:36 The Hawks did a really good job of switching up,

00:29:38 especially when Celtics tried to go to him in the paint.

00:29:40 He was swarmed a lot of the times,

00:29:42 and I felt like he just couldn't,

00:29:44 just couldn't find his groove.

00:29:45 You know, I just think missing those five games,

00:29:49 little by little, I feel like he's still kind of like,

00:29:52 I don't want to say ramping up,

00:29:53 but trying to get back into,

00:29:54 I mean, trying to get back into a rhythm.

00:29:55 And I think these two games could really help him out.

00:29:58 But yeah, I just think after that first quarter

00:30:00 or second, essentially the first half,

00:30:03 he was just trying to find his offense,

00:30:05 especially those shots where it was kind of like

00:30:08 laying the shot clock and he's behind the three-point arc,

00:30:11 they find him real quick.

00:30:12 He's kind of forced to chuck it.

00:30:14 And he wasn't one of those,

00:30:15 like he didn't look very comfortable out there,

00:30:17 you know, either it was either forced

00:30:20 or he was trying to, you know,

00:30:22 get a good position, position himself in the paint

00:30:25 and the Hawks just weren't having it, you know?

00:30:26 So I just think it was a tough night for Porzingis.

00:30:29 - Yeah, question here from Jared.

00:30:32 - He got boxed out a lot too, man.

00:30:34 - Celtics need to have Tatum play with Porzingis more

00:30:38 when Brown sits.

00:30:39 Thoughts on that?

00:30:41 Sure, why not?

00:30:43 I mean, we know the great report

00:30:47 that those two guys have, Porzingis and Brown,

00:30:50 but let's be honest, I mean,

00:30:52 Tatum and Porzingis are two thirds

00:30:55 of that three-headed monster.

00:30:56 So you absolutely need to have a good back and forth

00:31:00 between those two as well.

00:31:01 You know, they're gonna have to,

00:31:03 everyone's gonna, I mean, are you kidding me?

00:31:04 By the time the playoffs get here,

00:31:06 everyone's gonna have to be comfortable

00:31:08 with whatever combinations they can put out there.

00:31:10 I know Joe has been using this time,

00:31:12 these last some of these games to get a little bit creative,

00:31:14 get a little funky with lineups.

00:31:16 And they even started Pritchard in the second half tonight

00:31:21 after he came off the bench to start the game.

00:31:24 So again, a little wrinkle in that one.

00:31:27 It didn't work because the Hawks just went off

00:31:29 to start that third quarter.

00:31:32 So again, I mean, Mizzou was trying things,

00:31:34 but you know, probably having a hard time

00:31:37 figuring out exactly what was gonna happen,

00:31:41 what was gonna help them in the second half tonight.

00:31:42 Real quick guys, before Bobby joins us,

00:31:44 we'll wanna remind everybody

00:31:46 that we are doing our very own March Madness

00:31:50 here in the Garden Report.

00:31:51 And we've been running this bracket since Friday,

00:31:54 I wanna say.

00:31:56 And some really good close matchups going on right now

00:31:59 is the Kevin Jelly region.

00:32:02 You can vote on that.

00:32:03 I think you can vote on that now in the chat,

00:32:05 but also on Twitter.

00:32:07 I think it's Luke's Lemon Squares

00:32:09 is up against the Stay Ready Crew.

00:32:12 And then we have,

00:32:13 Do You Have Children is up,

00:32:16 I don't even, I can't even see who they're playing against

00:32:19 'cause we have the lower third in the way.

00:32:21 Let me see if I can get rid of that.

00:32:22 Here we go.

00:32:23 Do You Have Children up against Luis Loves Jalen.

00:32:27 So a couple of matchups to vote on tonight,

00:32:30 and then we will announce the Elite Eight.

00:32:33 I think we'll have probably have that announcement

00:32:36 probably by tomorrow, I would imagine.

00:32:38 And then fans will be able to vote on that.

00:32:42 And then we'll go all the way through

00:32:43 till we crown a champion.

00:32:45 I think the favorites did a pretty good job so far,

00:32:49 Joe Sway, based on my review of some of the results so far.

00:32:54 So should make for a pretty good bracket

00:32:57 down the stretch here.

00:32:58 So we remind everybody about that.

00:33:00 What else you got in this one, Joe?

00:33:02 Anything else stand out to you?

00:33:05 We're gonna get Bobby on with us shortly.

00:33:06 I know he's been in the locker room.

00:33:08 I think he's looks like he's trying to log on here.

00:33:11 Get Bobby on to play a little blame pie.

00:33:14 Here we go.

00:33:17 - He's taking out a blame pie, he's taking it out.

00:33:18 - I'm still thinking, but I don't wanna give it away yet.

00:33:25 I don't wanna give it away.

00:33:26 - All right, we'll save it.

00:33:27 - I wanna make sure I see all the candidates

00:33:30 before I make my final call,

00:33:31 but it's gonna be a few different slices, I think.

00:33:35 - Okay, okay.

00:33:36 No, man, I just, again, it's the same thing, man.

00:33:38 Same concerns, the same thing that it's gone up a bit

00:33:41 tonight, man.

00:33:42 Like late game execution.

00:33:45 And listen, teams, you have to be,

00:33:47 you have to win four games in the best seven series.

00:33:49 So I'm not saying that, again,

00:33:51 I don't think this diminishes the Celtics' chances,

00:33:52 but it's a humongous flaw.

00:33:55 I just think it's one of those things where it's gonna

00:33:58 add up to losses in the post season.

00:34:01 How many of those happen throughout the course

00:34:02 of the best seven series?

00:34:03 That's up to the Celtics.

00:34:04 And do they fall under that pressure?

00:34:06 I mean, it's one of those things where it's like,

00:34:09 when's the last time we've seen a team

00:34:10 have this big of a lead?

00:34:11 When's the last time we've seen a team out the East

00:34:14 so dominant, have such a dominant season?

00:34:16 It seems like everything is already in place

00:34:18 for them to go as far as everyone expects them to,

00:34:20 which is at least the NBA finals.

00:34:22 However you feel about the Nuggets

00:34:23 or whoever team you think is gonna come out

00:34:25 of the Western Conference is up to you, right?

00:34:27 But for the most part, that's been the feeling

00:34:29 of this whole time.

00:34:30 But that's not how it always plays out in the playoffs.

00:34:34 - And I'm not saying that the Celtics,

00:34:35 look, I just think the Celtics,

00:34:37 they're more than talented enough to get there.

00:34:40 But these flaws, these type of losses,

00:34:43 they're gonna repeat themselves.

00:34:44 And we just have to, I can't wait to see

00:34:47 what Joe looks like, what Joe Mazzulla's team looks like

00:34:51 the next time they're in this situation,

00:34:52 because it's not just about the team making adjustments,

00:34:55 but Joe gotta be the one calling the shots here.

00:34:57 I mean- - You trust Joe?

00:34:59 - The ISO and stuff, I'm not sure I do, Jimmy.

00:35:02 I think it really does come down to the players

00:35:04 a lot of those times, because obviously,

00:35:06 I mean, they're the ones that have been through it

00:35:07 so many times, and I'm not quite sure Joe

00:35:09 always has these set plays ready.

00:35:12 He's not a huge X and O guy.

00:35:13 He's not gonna put out these crazy, wacky plays

00:35:16 that we haven't seen before.

00:35:17 I mean, I'm sure he's saving something for the playoffs,

00:35:19 but the Celtics have to get these reps down now

00:35:22 for them to be prepared for that.

00:35:23 And it seems like a lot of times,

00:35:25 I trust my superstars.

00:35:27 I trust Jalen or Tatum in an ISO situation.

00:35:31 I'm not quite sure that's best.

00:35:33 I'm not quite sure you're maximizing your starting five.

00:35:35 I'm not quite sure you're maximizing all the talent

00:35:38 you have on this team when you do that.

00:35:40 You're really minimizing your chances in some instances.

00:35:44 Not all the time.

00:35:45 Like when these guys are red hot, you do what you gotta do.

00:35:48 Brown was feeling it, I'd say.

00:35:50 I don't know if I'd call it red hot.

00:35:51 So again, I'm not mad at who had the ball in his hand,

00:35:56 but I'm not quite sure the play was the right one,

00:35:59 or if there was at all.

00:36:00 Anything was designed in that spot.

00:36:02 Who knows?

00:36:03 - Yeah.

00:36:04 One guy we do trust though, Josue.

00:36:05 We trust him with all our hearts.

00:36:08 Bobby Manning, everybody.

00:36:10 Welcome to the show.

00:36:11 - This is the biggest L he's seen.

00:36:15 - Yeah.

00:36:16 - Biggest comeback.

00:36:18 - There can't be a lot of reporters there, right?

00:36:21 Like you must have pretty up close and personal reaction

00:36:25 to one of the worst losses in franchise history,

00:36:29 to be honest.

00:36:31 - Yeah, I'm guessing that has to be the biggest,

00:36:33 if not one of the biggest collapses ever.

00:36:36 I remember 28 against-

00:36:40 - First 30 plus point blow,

00:36:44 what are they?

00:36:45 They blew up 30 point plus leads, it's 96-97.

00:36:48 30 plus point collapse, it's 96-97.

00:36:51 - Yeah, that's probably how far back they track it.

00:36:53 So as far as I can remember,

00:36:56 the biggest collapse I've ever seen from them.

00:36:58 And you have the obvious caveats of no Drew and DeDerrick

00:37:01 and they're experimenting all the game

00:37:03 and they're running Springer and Speed in the forest.

00:37:05 So all that stuff accounts for it a little bit,

00:37:09 but you do get in the crunch time as Josue said,

00:37:12 and that's my big focus is they did not perform well.

00:37:15 They're drowning down the clock on that Jalen possession.

00:37:18 Poor defensively too,

00:37:21 was Chris Stapp's big takeaway following too much

00:37:24 in that moment.

00:37:25 And running out of time,

00:37:27 effectively down four with 10 seconds left.

00:37:29 I know that's kind of a desperation situation.

00:37:31 And that three off the offensive rebound on the play before

00:37:34 was just such a unconventional dagger.

00:37:38 Normally you think a guy's going to hold in that spot

00:37:40 and he just launched it for the win.

00:37:42 And credit to the Hawks, that's the kind of-

00:37:43 - That was a wild play, right?

00:37:44 I mean, that was a mistake.

00:37:46 - Nah, man, you had stones.

00:37:47 Come on, Jimmy, follow what it is.

00:37:49 - Stones in his head.

00:37:50 I mean, I can imagine-

00:37:53 - It was a big play.

00:37:55 - Come on, what do you think about it?

00:37:56 - He stepped right into it.

00:37:57 - Was that a terrible, was that just like,

00:38:01 he just was too caught up in the moment?

00:38:04 Or does he just have those big cojones?

00:38:06 Come on, which one is it?

00:38:07 - It's a bad decision.

00:38:08 Probably lost track of the situation.

00:38:10 - If he misses that, probably, let's say,

00:38:13 statistically six out of 10 times.

00:38:15 - It wasn't a one point game.

00:38:17 - We're all laughing at him.

00:38:19 - Yeah, but you still-

00:38:20 - It was a one point game.

00:38:20 - It was a one point game, yeah.

00:38:23 - No, no, no, I'm saying,

00:38:24 oh yeah, it was a one point game.

00:38:26 I meant to say, I meant to say they weren't losing.

00:38:29 They weren't losing.

00:38:29 - No, they weren't losing, they were winning.

00:38:31 - I mean, you don't have to foul,

00:38:32 even though he was supposed to be waiting for the foul.

00:38:33 Yeah, it would have been, I don't know, man.

00:38:35 It's one of those moments, you gotta,

00:38:37 you gotta see if you have it in you.

00:38:40 And he definitely hit the big shot, man.

00:38:43 And he's that guy, come on, he takes shots like that.

00:38:45 He's like that, put it that way, right?

00:38:47 He's not one of those conservative shooters.

00:38:49 - He is like that for a reason.

00:38:50 All right, we're gonna hear from,

00:38:51 poor Zink is here for a second, Bobby,

00:38:53 and then we'll get you guys' reaction to this.

00:38:55 - You guys look so good for some parts of the game,

00:38:59 and then not look so good for the rest.

00:39:01 Like, how does that happen?

00:39:03 - Relaxing.

00:39:04 Relax, which is natural, you know, you go out dirty.

00:39:08 Feel like everything's just smooth.

00:39:10 And you relax, you give 'em some,

00:39:12 and to that type of team, if you relax too much,

00:39:16 they give 'em some open looks,

00:39:18 those guys can make shots.

00:39:19 You know, they're an offensive-minded team.

00:39:21 And they got going.

00:39:23 And then it's a tough battle to kind of bring it back

00:39:28 to where we want it.

00:39:29 And yeah, they played a competitive game,

00:39:31 and we just gave 'em too much life.

00:39:34 - What do you feel like's the biggest thing

00:39:35 you guys need to take from this one, learn from?

00:39:37 - There he is.

00:39:37 - Reel 'em, Bobby!

00:39:43 - To be honest, not overreacting.

00:39:44 You know, I think we did a good job during the game,

00:39:46 not overreacting, even though it was a big contrast

00:39:49 in what happened in the game.

00:39:51 Um, you know, it's the NBA.

00:39:54 These kind of things happen, of course.

00:39:56 We just don't want to make this a habit, you know?

00:39:58 And it hasn't been a habit for us.

00:39:59 Just, we slipped one game, and we did relax a little bit,

00:40:02 and we paid the price.

00:40:03 - Paid the ultimate price.

00:40:08 - Yeah, so again, come on, get out of this.

00:40:11 Nothing that we haven't heard them say

00:40:15 many times before, Bobby.

00:40:17 So why believe them this time?

00:40:20 - It's like the boy who cried wolf.

00:40:22 - Yeah, and maybe it's not a habit,

00:40:25 but they've done it multiple times,

00:40:27 and multiple times this month, right?

00:40:28 That Cavs game was this month.

00:40:30 - Yep.

00:40:31 - 22 point collapse in the fourth,

00:40:32 so you do have another situation,

00:40:33 almost exact to this one, where you're in the fourth,

00:40:38 you lose control of the game,

00:40:40 you have a chance in crunch time,

00:40:41 and United able to execute there.

00:40:43 No points for the Celtics in the final minute.

00:40:46 So, offensive concerns there.

00:40:48 KP thought it was more their defense.

00:40:50 But you had a couple opportunities there

00:40:55 in that final minute to seal the game,

00:40:57 even after the massive collapse.

00:40:59 You have your starters out there.

00:41:00 I think Pritchard was out there late,

00:41:02 so you had a point guard.

00:41:03 Thought he played well in this game,

00:41:05 especially after the collapse,

00:41:06 to build another lead there.

00:41:08 You know, Vic Crecci comes out of nowhere,

00:41:10 and goes on his own eight-nothing run.

00:41:12 He played out of his mind tonight,

00:41:13 and the shooting on the Atlanta side

00:41:15 was out of this world.

00:41:17 But you need to be able to establish control

00:41:19 of the game again.

00:41:20 And turnover on Tatum, just driving into Murray,

00:41:25 head on with, you know, 100 seconds left in the game,

00:41:29 is brutal, leads right to a three.

00:41:31 And then, you know, Brown gets off a nice shot there,

00:41:34 but then the following possession after the Murray layup,

00:41:37 runs out the whole shot clock,

00:41:39 step back three, had no real chance there.

00:41:41 So, those are two critical possessions

00:41:44 under two minutes to play there,

00:41:46 where you had multiple chances to take a lead,

00:41:49 get a stop on the other end, and shut this game down.

00:41:52 And it really does come down to those couple possessions

00:41:55 late in these games sometimes.

00:41:56 And that's the only takeaway I have from this game, Jimmy.

00:41:58 We know that both guards were out.

00:42:00 We know that they were trying stuff all game long,

00:42:03 and we know that the Hawks shot out of this world from three.

00:42:06 But when you get to that final minute or two,

00:42:09 you want to start to see them execute more consistently.

00:42:11 And they have a good record in crunch time this year, Jimmy.

00:42:13 We've been talking about this since the Cavs game,

00:42:16 but they're four and seven in games,

00:42:18 decided by one point with under a minute to go.

00:42:20 In one point games with under two minutes to go.

00:42:25 I'm going to get them with two points.

00:42:28 Let's say two points.

00:42:29 So like a, you know, one possession game.

00:42:31 So we'll say three points under two minutes to go.

00:42:34 The Celtics are...

00:42:36 - Drum roll, please.

00:42:43 - 12 and 11.

00:42:44 - What was it again now?

00:42:47 Can you repeat what the stats?

00:42:48 - One possession game under two minutes to go.

00:42:52 Celtics at 12 and 11.

00:42:54 - Just what you said earlier, it's a coin toss.

00:42:56 - 50/50, man, I'm telling you.

00:42:58 That's really what it is.

00:43:00 - And you can-

00:43:01 - That is tied for 10th in the league, but not good enough.

00:43:03 - You can expect closer games in the playoffs

00:43:06 against, you know, better competition,

00:43:09 tighter play, tighter defense, Bobby.

00:43:12 I mean, I don't know.

00:43:13 I mean, you're a guy who screams defense a lot.

00:43:16 The Celtics team hasn't been playing great defense

00:43:18 over the last handful of games here.

00:43:20 I mean, they're getting away with it

00:43:21 because they're outscoring players.

00:43:23 - Right, yeah.

00:43:23 - And then you relax.

00:43:26 - I think that's the side of the ball

00:43:27 where relaxing hurts you more than anything.

00:43:28 - Especially when your means of offense

00:43:34 relies more heavily on three point shots.

00:43:36 If those go cold, like they did in this game,

00:43:40 combined with the laying off the gas on the defensive end,

00:43:45 you saw how quickly that lead disappeared.

00:43:47 It happened in a jiff.

00:43:49 And that leads us to our, what's that?

00:43:53 - They gave up a 37 to 10 run in nine minutes.

00:43:56 And it happens fast.

00:43:57 I mean, Joe actually said after the game,

00:43:59 I think he pointed to 58 games

00:44:01 where teams was led by 20 this year that got blown.

00:44:05 I think that's what he was referring to.

00:44:08 So, you know, he was big on this happens

00:44:10 and you need to expect it to happen.

00:44:11 I think that more than any criticism he's had

00:44:14 to this team resonates in recent weeks.

00:44:16 The Bucks game, for example, Jimmy,

00:44:18 they're up, what, 21 in that game?

00:44:19 Goes down to three late.

00:44:22 So that's another example of a massive blown lead.

00:44:24 And I was screaming from the high heavens, Jimmy.

00:44:26 Joe Sway and I just podcasted about it again yesterday.

00:44:30 - Yeah, we did.

00:44:30 - That game concerned me a little bit.

00:44:32 Just because you let go of the rope so much

00:44:35 and you put yourself in position late in that game

00:44:37 to lose it.

00:44:38 Credit to them in that game, Jimmy.

00:44:40 It was the opposite of this one where they executed late

00:44:42 in crunch time and got two key scoring plays.

00:44:44 - Right.

00:44:45 - That's nice.

00:44:46 You blow two possessions and you lose this game.

00:44:50 So crunch time concerns still exist.

00:44:54 Handling the lead, managing the game.

00:44:56 I think that's something Joe talks about too.

00:44:58 Do you still trust them with that

00:45:00 in these kinds of spots where you build these big leads?

00:45:04 It's going to be a factor here.

00:45:05 And you know, back to those crunch time stats, Jimmy,

00:45:08 you know, you're 12 and 11 in those spots.

00:45:11 Chicago, a team you could see in the first round,

00:45:13 is 19 and 12.

00:45:14 Denver's 18 and nine.

00:45:16 So you could have games in the playoffs

00:45:19 that swing on crunch time.

00:45:20 Even the Bucks 13 and nine,

00:45:21 a few games better than the Celtics.

00:45:23 Those are the kind of games that swing a series.

00:45:28 - How much of that do you put on coaching?

00:45:30 - I think a lot goes on coaching

00:45:32 because for some reason or another,

00:45:35 Joe talks a lot in these situations

00:45:37 about how you need to speed up.

00:45:38 You need to play with pace.

00:45:40 You can't wait too late in the shot clock

00:45:42 to get into your actions.

00:45:43 And they repeatedly do it over and over again.

00:45:46 And there's got to be some way.

00:45:47 Obviously it's on the players first and foremost.

00:45:49 But when you see this happening repeatedly,

00:45:53 you need to be able to identify it as a coach

00:45:54 and figure out a solution to it.

00:45:56 And once again tonight, shades of Joe last year,

00:45:59 he just shrugged off the crunch time stuff and said,

00:46:03 "Yeah, you know, teams around the league

00:46:04 "all have trouble with that.

00:46:05 "You got to make shots."

00:46:07 That's like 2023, Joe.

00:46:10 And I don't love that answer.

00:46:11 You got to find solutions in these spots.

00:46:13 You're not the best in those situations.

00:46:15 There's some teams in your class

00:46:17 that are better than you in those spots.

00:46:18 And does shot making decide a lot of that?

00:46:20 Yes, but you can clearly identify, Jimmy, the pace issue,

00:46:25 the getting into plays too late in the shot clock,

00:46:28 and the way you played games

00:46:30 throughout the course of the night,

00:46:32 turning into isolation late.

00:46:33 I mean, that Tatum possession was horrible.

00:46:35 Just dribble, dribble, dribble right in the Murray

00:46:37 and Murray just stripped him with ease.

00:46:39 So I'm going to harp on that.

00:46:40 - And then Brown had one too.

00:46:41 Brown had one too.

00:46:43 - See, when you talk about PTSD earlier,

00:46:45 Bob, you weren't here for this,

00:46:46 but Jimmy was talking about that,

00:46:47 Bowen Lees and the Celtics just showing that bad side of them.

00:46:51 That's what I think Quinn Snyder was starting to feel

00:46:56 in the second half, that familiarity where it's like,

00:46:58 "Wait a minute, I got,

00:47:00 "I sort of got four Zingas out of the picture here.

00:47:02 "It looks like Tatum and Brown are going to try to

00:47:05 "put the team on their back, so to speak,

00:47:06 "or at least take turns in trying to put us away here.

00:47:08 "So why don't we just apply pressure to those guys?"

00:47:10 And I feel like it was just like,

00:47:12 the league disappeared after that, you know?

00:47:15 And then the Hawks really bought as much as they could

00:47:17 to just keep applying that pressure, you know?

00:47:20 And it extended all the way down to the end of the game.

00:47:23 I just think that getting Jalen out completely

00:47:27 away from the three-pointer arc the way they did,

00:47:28 knowing, like, they had a sense of how much time

00:47:31 was on the shot clock the entire time.

00:47:32 They had a game plan with the Penta down to the floor.

00:47:35 And when the ball got back to Jalen, they executed.

00:47:37 And I felt like Jalen was really surprised.

00:47:40 I just felt like he was thrown off guard.

00:47:42 And that's something that the soldiers have to work on.

00:47:43 They got to prepare themselves for those situations,

00:47:45 whether it was Jalen Brown, whether it was Jason Tatum,

00:47:48 whether they're doing what I like to see them do,

00:47:50 what got them essentially the huge lead in the first half

00:47:53 is just move the ball around,

00:47:55 four Zingas in the middle, get guys going on the wing,

00:47:57 constant ball movement where everyone's getting

00:47:59 their touches in.

00:48:00 That's essentially what got that huge lead.

00:48:02 And obviously, three-point shooting is a big part of that,

00:48:04 but it doesn't necessarily have to be a big part

00:48:06 of their DNA down the stretch.

00:48:08 They have to find a way to not only defend

00:48:10 and come up with huge stops, but execute offensively.

00:48:13 They have more than enough weapons for that.

00:48:14 And I get it, no Derek White, no Drew Holiday.

00:48:16 Those are two big guys on the offensive end of the floor,

00:48:18 two facilitators, but the soldiers have proven

00:48:20 that they can win these type of games.

00:48:22 I mean, they had a 30-point lead, but probably not allowed.

00:48:24 It's just one of those situations where, man,

00:48:26 if you're one of those teams in the playoffs

00:48:29 and you've got the Celtics with their backs

00:48:30 against the ropes, those teams are gonna build confidence

00:48:34 over and over again, and it can really change

00:48:36 the complexion of a best-of-seven series,

00:48:38 especially if you just beat them twice.

00:48:39 I mean, we've seen that in the past with this team.

00:48:43 - It wasn't just, yeah, and it wasn't just late game

00:48:46 or end of game tonight, too.

00:48:47 I mean, Bobby, the way that third quarter started

00:48:51 couldn't have been worse for the Celtics.

00:48:52 Joe Mizzou elected to try to play through it,

00:48:56 let the guys figure it out on their own.

00:48:58 How many times have we seen that happen and backfire

00:49:01 and not work out the way that Mizzou had wanted it to?

00:49:04 And again, the same thing tonight,

00:49:05 and eventually he did have to call a timeout.

00:49:07 I think maybe it was another possession or two

00:49:09 after the fact, but is this just something

00:49:14 that we're gonna have to just accept with Joe

00:49:16 is that he's gonna hang on to these timeouts

00:49:17 and he's gonna really try to force his players

00:49:21 to figure it out on their own

00:49:22 until they're basically drowning out there?

00:49:26 - Yeah, it is, and I think it makes sense

00:49:28 in this kind of game where you're experimenting,

00:49:30 where you wanna play through a situation like that.

00:49:33 I mean, what better game to do that in

00:49:35 than this one where you just clench the East

00:49:37 and you have Tatum and Brown out there

00:49:40 with a bunch of other different guys

00:49:42 and you're putting yourself in situations

00:49:43 that you wanna see it out.

00:49:44 Like, I don't mind a tenacity.

00:49:46 - But it didn't work.

00:49:47 So are you concerned about the players

00:49:49 not being able to figure it out on their own?

00:49:51 - I'm concerned about their ability to handle the pressure

00:49:54 the Hawks put on them in that spot

00:49:56 'cause they turned up the heat at the point of attack.

00:49:58 They played up to half court.

00:49:59 They were knocking guys off the ball.

00:50:01 I mean, what happened on the eight seconds play?

00:50:03 I mean, I had to find this perhaps as much as anything.

00:50:07 - I can tell you exactly what happened.

00:50:09 - It was too cool for school Tatum, man.

00:50:11 I hate that.

00:50:12 - I mean, that's, yeah.

00:50:15 You don't see that much.

00:50:16 That's the embodiment.

00:50:18 - Jimmy, did you read his lip on the TV?

00:50:21 He's barking, that was seven seconds.

00:50:23 That was seven, okay, one second off.

00:50:25 Why are you in that situation?

00:50:27 Why are you in that situation?

00:50:28 - You're totally missing the point.

00:50:29 Yeah, exactly.

00:50:29 - I should have been in on Tatum asking him about that.

00:50:32 I hope someone did, but man,

00:50:35 that playing body just collapsed, didn't it?

00:50:37 - If Gary didn't, someone did.

00:50:39 - Yeah, that's something.

00:50:40 - I mean, they just slowed down

00:50:41 and took their foot off the gas.

00:50:43 I love how Brown said too,

00:50:44 not only took their foot off the gas,

00:50:46 they took their hands off the wheel.

00:50:48 - Oh, wow, a lot of that.

00:50:51 Speaking of Brown, we got a Brown clip right here.

00:50:53 Let's see what he had to say.

00:50:54 - Similar situation against Cleveland.

00:50:56 You mentioned mindset after that game too.

00:50:58 What do you have to develop in a spot like this

00:51:00 to be able to pull yourself out of this?

00:51:02 And what's the most difficult part of that?

00:51:04 - Just taking every possession,

00:51:06 handling it the right way.

00:51:10 I think that we got a little casual,

00:51:13 we got a little distracted, and it cost us.

00:51:18 - Crunch time, it was one point game late there.

00:51:21 How do you feel like that went?

00:51:22 Where do you feel like you guys are in those kinds of spots,

00:51:24 especially you and Jason as the ball handlers?

00:51:26 - I feel like we have some good looks.

00:51:29 I just feel like we didn't get a stop.

00:51:30 I didn't love the last shot that we got.

00:51:32 I think we kind of waited too late.

00:51:34 I was waiting for the action to kind of develop,

00:51:36 but the clock was winding down.

00:51:38 It was taking too much time.

00:51:40 And I didn't really like the last shot

00:51:42 that I got on the right wing.

00:51:43 But other than that, I feel like we got some good looks

00:51:47 outside of some of the turnovers that we had.

00:51:50 But that's something that we definitely

00:51:52 will continue to work on.

00:51:54 - Yeah, I mean, that was a horrible possession,

00:51:57 that last shot that Brown took.

00:51:59 And I want to lead right into, before we get-

00:52:02 - It sounds like he's blaming the prep though, Jimmy.

00:52:04 It's not controversial here, but he's like, well-

00:52:06 - Sounds like he's what?

00:52:08 - It sounds like he's blaming the prep, the prep.

00:52:11 Like preparing for that play, it was like,

00:52:13 well, the screen didn't this, and the screen's like, oh.

00:52:15 - That leads us to the blame pie, Josue.

00:52:18 - Yeah, we need some music for this.

00:52:18 - That leads us to the, we do.

00:52:19 We need a sponsor for this.

00:52:21 - We need like a circus thing, like a, I don't know.

00:52:25 (laughing)

00:52:26 - Blame pies.

00:52:28 - Some kind of circus thing.

00:52:28 - C&S Card Report blame pie.

00:52:30 If I'm on the show on a loss,

00:52:32 you can guarantee there's going to be a blame pie

00:52:34 going around.

00:52:35 So, Bobby, we'll start with you.

00:52:38 Who are you dishing out slices to tonight?

00:52:41 - I think you go to Tatum.

00:52:44 Minus 15 in the second half,

00:52:46 second worst on the team behind Brown.

00:52:48 Second half, second worst on the team behind Pritchard.

00:52:51 He's out there for much of that opening stretch

00:52:55 and the runs that cost him in the second half there.

00:52:58 We talk about slowing down.

00:53:00 That's all on him.

00:53:01 We know Jalen wants to speed it up

00:53:03 and be aggressive in these spots.

00:53:04 I thought he had some nice moments in the second half too.

00:53:06 Pritchard saved them at times in that second half

00:53:09 with his ability to create shots and create offense.

00:53:12 And Joe, again, I think this is an experimental game

00:53:15 from his standpoint.

00:53:15 He's not going to save them in a game like this.

00:53:17 He's trying different stuff.

00:53:19 He's putting different lineups out there.

00:53:20 He doesn't have the full roster at his disposal.

00:53:22 So I think he gets a break in this one too.

00:53:24 It's Tatum, man.

00:53:26 That eight second thing,

00:53:29 it's the perfect embodiment of the lack of trust

00:53:32 we still have in him to get this done, or the distrust.

00:53:37 The skepticism, I think, is the right word actually,

00:53:39 that he's going to get it done this year

00:53:40 because of habits like that.

00:53:43 It's on him.

00:53:44 He's the leader of the team.

00:53:45 He's setting the tone.

00:53:46 The ball's in his hands more than anybody's.

00:53:48 He needs to be able to manage the game.

00:53:50 And we're talking about managing the game as Joe does.

00:53:52 Joe's not going to rip individual players.

00:53:54 He's not going to rip the team.

00:53:56 He's going to talk about stuff like that.

00:53:58 And when he's talking about managing the game,

00:53:59 it's on a guy like Tatum.

00:54:01 And I know Brown's part of that.

00:54:03 I know Pritchard's part of that,

00:54:04 but more and more we're going to see that

00:54:07 whether or not they win this championship

00:54:09 is going to come down to Tatum.

00:54:10 I think everybody else is going to do their jobs.

00:54:11 He has the hardest job, obviously,

00:54:14 but I mean, this one shouldn't have been hard tonight.

00:54:17 Joe Sway?

00:54:20 - Oh man.

00:54:24 - Cutting up the pie or are you giving it off?

00:54:25 Bobby just, Bobby just pied.

00:54:27 He just took a pie and just shoved the whole thing

00:54:30 on Tatum, dude.

00:54:31 Just like that.

00:54:33 Tossed it in his face.

00:54:36 - I thought he was going to do some math here.

00:54:38 He's like, nah, man, 100%.

00:54:39 - 100%.

00:54:40 (laughing)

00:54:43 - Should we blame Steve?

00:54:44 - I mean, I'll pull a chat and blame Jaden Springer.

00:54:47 - Yeah.

00:54:48 (laughing)

00:54:49 - Yeah, no, man, don't do it like that.

00:54:51 He made the most, it was one of those,

00:54:53 like once you hit like the four or five minutes in the game,

00:54:56 you knew it was going down.

00:54:57 Yeah, he did his best, man.

00:54:59 He did his best.

00:54:59 All right, I'll go.

00:55:01 I'll probably go just to make it easier.

00:55:05 - Our blame pie is looking like me.

00:55:06 Our blame pie is looking like my webcam right now, man.

00:55:10 - You're running out of time, Joe Sway.

00:55:12 It's just a PM.

00:55:13 - You know what, I'm going 60, all right,

00:55:14 I'll go 60 Tatum.

00:55:16 Shit, you know what, 60, 40, whatever.

00:55:21 Tatum and Missoula.

00:55:22 The 40 goes to Missoula, and I know he's the coach.

00:55:24 - I like that, I like that.

00:55:26 - I know maybe people will be like,

00:55:27 oh, well, maybe the coach should get a bigger slice,

00:55:29 but Tatum knows better than this, man.

00:55:32 Jimmy, what does attitude reflect?

00:55:35 - Leadership.

00:55:36 - Exactly.

00:55:37 One of your go-to lines last year.

00:55:39 We gotta repeat it again

00:55:40 because Tatum was not putting forth the right attitude, man.

00:55:44 Like, you're the leader of this team.

00:55:46 You've been that guy all year long.

00:55:48 You were the point forward in this game,

00:55:50 and you got off to a hell of a start.

00:55:52 Wasn't just dominating with scoring like you did,

00:55:54 and wasn't just like one of those nights

00:55:56 where it felt like, man, if only this game was closer,

00:55:58 we'd see Tatum go off a 40, you know,

00:56:01 and it was closer,

00:56:01 but we didn't see that side of Tatum on the second half.

00:56:03 We saw poverty Tatum.

00:56:04 We saw, I can't believe we're losing,

00:56:06 you know what I mean?

00:56:07 Not even losing, but I can't believe

00:56:08 we gave up this huge lead Tatum.

00:56:10 Why aren't things, you know, coming so easily for me?

00:56:13 And then soon as he got that humongous dunk, that drive,

00:56:16 that's the Tatum I wanna see.

00:56:17 I wanna see more of that.

00:56:18 - That was a big play.

00:56:19 - But then that guy disappeared.

00:56:20 He disappeared.

00:56:21 Jaylen Brown stayed the course though.

00:56:24 Kept seeking high percentage looks.

00:56:26 Again, I can't, I hated the last possession,

00:56:31 but I can't give him even a sliver of his pie.

00:56:33 I'm going with Tatum and Mazzulla,

00:56:35 and then the Mazzulla gets his 40,

00:56:36 or excuse me, Mazzulla gets his,

00:56:38 oh yeah, 40.

00:56:39 He gets his 40% off of not being prepared

00:56:42 for these situations.

00:56:43 He's not prepared for these guys.

00:56:45 All right, I just feel like that's something

00:56:46 he has to work with his coaching staff.

00:56:48 They gotta make those decisions obviously on the fly,

00:56:52 and they have to have the right Xs and Os

00:56:55 to back up those situations.

00:56:56 Whether it's Brown that needs to have the ball in his hand,

00:56:59 whether it's Tatum, whether it's, you know,

00:57:01 an option with Porzingis in the middle.

00:57:05 And again, I know they're gonna have Derek White

00:57:08 and they'll have, most likely have Drew Holiday

00:57:10 throughout most of the postseason.

00:57:11 But this was a great opportunity for guys like Tatum

00:57:13 and Brown just to close it out.

00:57:15 You know, okay, yeah, you blew the big lead,

00:57:17 but you still had a chance to close it out.

00:57:18 They didn't, I never saw them really sulk until,

00:57:22 I mean, I never saw anyone else sulk besides Tatum,

00:57:24 and Tatum is the leader.

00:57:26 If you had that type of attitude,

00:57:28 it's gonna trickle down.

00:57:29 I think it did, I really do.

00:57:31 - Yeah, that's good.

00:57:32 - I'll stay with Brown too, just to sprinkle it in, Jimmy.

00:57:36 Missed free throw, the foul on Hunter.

00:57:40 And that shot, it's tough to give him a pass

00:57:42 on the shot clock play, that was pretty bad.

00:57:45 - Well, the shot, yeah, well, the,

00:57:48 you mean his possession there at the end?

00:57:50 - Yeah, where it ran out of time, yeah.

00:57:52 - I think this is fair, Baylin Melanie says 10%

00:57:55 is on Brown with his free throws in that last shot.

00:57:57 That's fair, so Brown gets like the last--

00:58:02 - He's got it, just not hitting those.

00:58:04 - Yeah, he really does, that's becoming a bigger problem,

00:58:07 it feels like, because you know,

00:58:09 you know there's gonna be a situation in the playoffs

00:58:11 where he's gonna step to the line in a big situation,

00:58:14 and it's all mental at that point.

00:58:16 It's clutch at that point.

00:58:17 - You know, if he, Jimmy, if he keeps this up,

00:58:19 it's gonna turn into hack of Jalen.

00:58:21 - Hack of Jalen, it's gonna be the new thing.

00:58:23 - Eric Spolstra.

00:58:24 - I could see it, I could see it for sure.

00:58:26 - Or one of these playoff,

00:58:27 they will put him on the spot, on the road, absolutely.

00:58:30 If he keeps this up, I'm telling you,

00:58:32 people are doing their homework.

00:58:33 - Well, fresh off a full serving of Blame Pie,

00:58:36 we're gonna hear from Jason Tatum here.

00:58:37 - It's tough, you know, whenever a game you play,

00:58:40 you know, for us, we never like,

00:58:42 people think we never should lose.

00:58:43 And you know, we was up a lot,

00:58:46 and we kinda, we (beep) the game up.

00:58:50 And we know that, we all adults and professionals,

00:58:52 and we know we didn't do the things necessary to win.

00:58:55 And I think that's sometimes easier to fix

00:59:00 when you know if you do the right things

00:59:02 and play the right way and how we supposed to,

00:59:05 we know usually what the outcome is gonna be.

00:59:07 So like KP said, not overreact,

00:59:11 take it on the chin and get ready for Thursday.

00:59:14 - So if John Zanis was here tonight, and he's not,

00:59:20 I think he's at like a podcast convention or something,

00:59:23 guys, I think he's somewhere.

00:59:25 He's somewhere doing something to help make our show

00:59:28 bigger and better than it already is.

00:59:31 So we'll give him a pass.

00:59:33 - He's just like selling merch somewhere.

00:59:34 He's just like, I wanna get these t-shirts right now.

00:59:36 - He's selling bucket hats somewhere.

00:59:38 But what would he say about how,

00:59:40 why he hates that answer from Tatum?

00:59:43 We, we, we, we, we, we, we, I don't know how many we's

00:59:47 we count on that one.

00:59:49 But there's the accountability, calling into question again.

00:59:51 I didn't like that answer, playing it off as you know,

00:59:55 it's a lot of things we should win, blah, blah, blah.

00:59:58 Yeah, let's go over the layers.

00:59:59 This is a layered pie now.

01:00:01 - Then the third one,

01:00:04 you said everyone thinks we should win all the time, right?

01:00:08 And for me, it's just the, hold on, play it again.

01:00:13 All right, let's play it again.

01:00:16 We loved it so much.

01:00:17 We'll play it again.

01:00:18 Here we go.

01:00:18 - Yeah, pull that back.

01:00:19 - There's something else in there.

01:00:20 - You know, for us, we never like,

01:00:21 people think we never should lose.

01:00:23 - Yeah, hear that again.

01:00:24 - We, you should remember this.

01:00:25 - And you know, we was up for this,

01:00:26 and we kind of, we (beep) the game up.

01:00:29 And we know that we all the adults and the professionals,

01:00:32 and we know we didn't do the things necessary to win.

01:00:35 And I think that's sometimes easier to fix

01:00:40 when you know if you do the right things

01:00:42 and play the right way, how we supposed to.

01:00:44 - Oh, what just happened?

01:00:48 I don't know, but I remember now.

01:00:51 It's a number one, the we,

01:00:53 number two, everyone thinks we should win all the time.

01:00:56 And number three, just move on.

01:01:01 Just move on to Thursday, forget about it.

01:01:03 That's always been his approach.

01:01:05 And you know, there's been situations

01:01:06 where they found themselves in big holes,

01:01:07 and I've asked them,

01:01:09 do you have to switch up that approach a little bit?

01:01:11 I know he wants to just erase games,

01:01:13 erase misses from his head.

01:01:14 And I think that's worked for him to some degree.

01:01:16 Like, you can't have a game,

01:01:18 a game six against Philly last year,

01:01:19 where you start one at 13 or whatever it was,

01:01:21 turn around without forgetting about the misses

01:01:23 and staying aggressive.

01:01:24 I think that's important for him.

01:01:26 But I do think after losses like this,

01:01:28 you need to diagnose things a little bit more.

01:01:30 You know, where'd you go wrong?

01:01:31 What do you need to take from this game?

01:01:33 And his approach often, at least publicly,

01:01:35 has been just throw it in the trash and move on to Thursday.

01:01:38 So I've never loved that from him either.

01:01:40 I get why he does it,

01:01:41 but I think there's a little bit more introspection

01:01:43 you need from, you know, a loss like this.

01:01:45 - Yeah, I mean, it's, again,

01:01:49 it's almost kind of like the too cool for school.

01:01:50 He looks like his post game kind of reflects his play

01:01:53 out there in the second half, Bobby.

01:01:54 He said it like, or Joe Sway, walking the ball up,

01:01:57 you know, sort of being slow into your sets,

01:02:00 not working the ball around like you were in the first.

01:02:02 I mean, these guys were,

01:02:04 these guys couldn't miss in the first quarter.

01:02:06 And then like, I don't know,

01:02:07 Poisingas kind of said they got,

01:02:10 what'd he say, they got comfortable or they got,

01:02:13 they did, they stopped playing basically.

01:02:16 - Let me be honest, Jimmy,

01:02:17 I skipped a lot of those Tatum sessions.

01:02:20 I skipped it tonight.

01:02:21 I don't find what he says in those settings interesting.

01:02:24 I don't find it insightful.

01:02:26 I think he just kind of shrugs these off.

01:02:28 And if that's works for him, great.

01:02:30 But at least public facing is, you know,

01:02:32 the leader of the team.

01:02:33 I don't think we learn a lot about like his mindset

01:02:36 and his approach coming out of games like this.

01:02:39 And listen, you sit up there

01:02:41 and you take the credit when you win

01:02:42 and you, you know, basking the glory,

01:02:45 but you need to be able to sit up there after losses

01:02:48 and be able to dive, you know, great.

01:02:50 You face, you know, the media as you should,

01:02:53 but you also need to be able to kind of speak

01:02:55 for the team in that moment.

01:02:56 Like, what do you need to do?

01:02:57 Where do you need to improve?

01:02:59 What do you need to learn from a game like this?

01:03:03 And too often it's just, you know, whatever.

01:03:05 I'll know the next one.

01:03:07 - Yeah, because then his mind is thinking we won,

01:03:09 we won nine of the last 10.

01:03:12 Like, what do you want from us?

01:03:12 You know what I mean?

01:03:13 I just feel like that, that type of attitude,

01:03:16 it's just, I don't know, man.

01:03:18 Like again, it's not like the sky's falling for this team,

01:03:21 but I just feel like they're showing their vulnerable side,

01:03:24 you know, which is you can--

01:03:27 - The mindset.

01:03:28 - Bully them around a bit.

01:03:29 Yeah, the mindset.

01:03:30 Like if they're off to a huge lead,

01:03:31 like that's when they're, they're weak-minded.

01:03:33 You got to attack them.

01:03:34 I mean, obviously no team's going to go out there

01:03:36 and like try to go down by 25 and be like, oh, here we go.

01:03:38 This is the, this is the recipe to beat the Celtics.

01:03:41 But it just shows that when you really make them

01:03:44 uncomfortable, when things are going really well for them,

01:03:46 you can close out a deficit in a hurry.

01:03:49 And the Hawks prove that, you know?

01:03:51 And let's face it, this isn't, this is a,

01:03:54 they're missing like three stars

01:03:55 or three guys out of their rotation.

01:03:58 And obviously one of them is Trey Young.

01:03:59 So I just think that--

01:04:00 - That's what really made this one a killer.

01:04:03 - You're putting yourself out there a bit, you know?

01:04:04 And I feel like the word, the word's kind of been out,

01:04:06 but now it's like, man, like you guys are going to really

01:04:08 be put on the spot here if you can't carve out

01:04:12 a significant lead down the stretch, you know?

01:04:14 They're going to be one of those teams in the playoffs.

01:04:17 - Well, that's, yeah.

01:04:18 And again, this is like a good problem to have, I guess,

01:04:20 but there hasn't been a lot of,

01:04:22 there hasn't been a lot of situations this year

01:04:26 where the team has had to overcome

01:04:30 like a lot of adversity, right?

01:04:32 And really like--

01:04:34 - Dominated and praised.

01:04:35 - Yeah, really like band together

01:04:37 and them against the world sort of mentality,

01:04:40 trust each other and forge through.

01:04:42 And like the whole thing,

01:04:44 like hard times create strong men type mentality.

01:04:47 It's like, so if that's going to happen,

01:04:49 if you're going to hit the playoffs,

01:04:52 obviously you're the one seed, everything looks great,

01:04:54 home court, blah, blah, blah.

01:04:56 But if you hit a bump in the road,

01:04:57 how are you going to respond to that?

01:05:00 How are you going to address it?

01:05:02 Are you going to take it face on?

01:05:04 Are you going to make the necessary changes

01:05:05 right off the bat?

01:05:06 Are you going to ignore it?

01:05:07 Are you going to just downplay it?

01:05:09 Like, these are the things that I think

01:05:10 if you are concerned about something,

01:05:12 it would be how this team is going to react to adversity.

01:05:17 'Cause you have to imagine that they'll face some,

01:05:20 at some point, whether it's, I mean,

01:05:22 it won't be the rest of the regular season here,

01:05:24 but in the playoffs at some point,

01:05:26 assuming that they're going to be playing against teams

01:05:28 that are going to be fighting for,

01:05:33 they're going to fight for their playoff lives

01:05:34 just like the Celtics are.

01:05:35 Then there's not going to be any cakewalks in the playoffs.

01:05:37 Everybody has pride.

01:05:39 You see what happens when you take an opponent for Grattan,

01:05:42 granted, Celtics have done it a couple of times this year.

01:05:45 If that's one lesson they can take from tonight,

01:05:48 hopefully they can finally take it.

01:05:50 But I feel like we'll be,

01:05:51 we've talked about this numerous times in the past.

01:05:54 So it'll be interesting.

01:05:55 - I think this is why, you know,

01:05:57 we've kicked around the playoffs

01:05:58 at the last handful of games here, Joe Swain,

01:06:00 who's looming in the first round.

01:06:03 I think this is exactly why,

01:06:04 I think all of us agree here

01:06:05 that you'd rather see a Miami, a Philly round one,

01:06:08 the toughest opponent possible right off the bat.

01:06:11 'Cause yeah, you're going to cruise by a Chicago

01:06:13 or an Atlanta for that matter.

01:06:14 You know, they're in the mix here.

01:06:16 But it's not going to be difficult enough.

01:06:20 It's not going to heighten their senses.

01:06:21 It's not going to raise their antenna to start the playoffs.

01:06:25 You put Miami on the other side,

01:06:27 it might be difficult.

01:06:29 You might be at risk of losing round one potentially,

01:06:32 just because of how difficult of a matchup

01:06:33 it's been in different spots.

01:06:35 But you realistically shouldn't,

01:06:36 and you're going to take it so seriously

01:06:39 that it's just going to set a good tone for the playoffs.

01:06:41 So you should be asking for the toughest possible

01:06:43 first round opponent for this team,

01:06:44 just to wake them up, get them going

01:06:47 and put them in a serious mindset right off the bat.

01:06:49 Just like that Brooklyn series did a couple of years ago,

01:06:51 Jimmy, we debated that one fiercely going into those playoffs.

01:06:54 - Yeah, but Bobby, why was that significant?

01:06:55 - That's a scary team on the other side,

01:06:57 but it put them right in that mindset

01:06:59 that we're talking about here.

01:07:00 - Well, I was just going to say, Bobby,

01:07:01 why was that significant though?

01:07:03 Because it was kind of like, man,

01:07:04 we're finally going to not beat the bully,

01:07:06 but kind of like beat the quote unquote super team,

01:07:08 you know?

01:07:09 If it's the Miami Heat, man,

01:07:12 what can motivate these guys more?

01:07:13 If you're Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown and Derek White,

01:07:17 and the guys that were on the team last year,

01:07:19 it's like, man, those guys,

01:07:20 like we should have made history last year.

01:07:23 Let's get, you know what I mean?

01:07:24 Like that should be natural.

01:07:27 You know, that should be your approach

01:07:28 in terms of being tough minded.

01:07:30 It's like, no, you're not going to get us this time.

01:07:32 You know?

01:07:33 So yeah, I would embrace a matchup like that for sure.

01:07:35 100%.

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01:09:31 Guys, Bobby, you're in Atlanta.

01:09:34 What haven't we seen being back here?

01:09:38 You notice anything, locker room, post game?

01:09:41 What was Joe?

01:09:42 You know, we did play a clip of Joe

01:09:43 and we know that you were in there talking to him.

01:09:45 Anything stand out to you from what he had to say?

01:09:48 - I can tell when he's taking something seriously.

01:09:52 Like he was not defensive tonight.

01:09:54 He was not combative about this loss.

01:09:56 I think he knows what went on out there

01:09:58 is not what you want to see.

01:10:00 And again, he's not going to call these guys out.

01:10:02 He's not going to blast individual players.

01:10:05 That's not his style.

01:10:06 But you hear him talk about managing the game

01:10:08 and the runs that you have to expect.

01:10:11 He said that, you know, after that Bucks game last week,

01:10:14 you have to expect up 20 that they're going to come back.

01:10:17 It's a given.

01:10:18 You know, that's why he keeps emphasizing that stat

01:10:20 that he's blow those leads all the time in the league.

01:10:23 So you have to keep playing.

01:10:24 I think he's stressing that with these guys.

01:10:26 At the crunch time stuff to me,

01:10:27 his response to that didn't suffice.

01:10:30 I felt like just saying,

01:10:32 oh, we're just like everybody else in those spots.

01:10:35 And similar to Tatum's comment, right?

01:10:37 People want us to win every game.

01:10:40 Obviously, you're not going to win every game.

01:10:43 But that's where expectations are for this team.

01:10:45 And you're not just like every other team in terms of talent,

01:10:48 even on a night where you're shorthanded.

01:10:50 And listen, they're 3-3 without Derek White now.

01:10:53 I think that's a real thing.

01:10:54 They cannot survive without him out there.

01:10:57 He is looking like the most important player

01:10:59 in terms of availability for this team.

01:11:01 Going into the playoffs, Tatum and Brown aside.

01:11:04 So you're going to need him down the stretch here.

01:11:07 Fortunately, he's super durable,

01:11:09 and he's going to play 40 minutes a game this postseason

01:11:11 compared to coming off the bench

01:11:13 and sitting in crunch time like we saw a year ago.

01:11:15 I think that's going to make all the difference

01:11:16 and it has this year with this kind of stuff.

01:11:19 But I did sense a level of seriousness here, Jimmy.

01:11:22 And that's why I asked KP,

01:11:23 what'd you say after a game like this?

01:11:27 Does someone even say anything

01:11:28 or is it just a given what happened here?

01:11:30 And he said, it's a given.

01:11:31 You blew it in the second, it lingered into the third,

01:11:35 everybody knows that.

01:11:36 You don't have to say it.

01:11:37 Does that reflect well to you?

01:11:41 The fact that you walk out of a game like this

01:11:43 and it's obvious what went wrong?

01:11:46 Or do you think someone does need to speak up

01:11:47 after a game like this more than we even heard?

01:11:50 - Maybe in a group chat or something like that.

01:11:54 I don't think they need like a player's own meeting,

01:11:56 but you know, like just kind of like,

01:11:57 hey, like that wasn't cool what happened last night.

01:11:59 - I do believe they have a team dinner tonight.

01:12:02 - Tonight?

01:12:03 - You also have three days off.

01:12:04 - And that is the shit timing for a team dinner.

01:12:07 - So, or two days off, right?

01:12:08 The next two days off, so.

01:12:10 - Yeah, I mean, they're gonna be together.

01:12:11 They've got a few days here.

01:12:12 I mean, Jalen Brown's in his hometown.

01:12:14 I'm sure he's gonna be- - He has a practice

01:12:14 on Wednesday.

01:12:16 - Hanging out with some friends and family, but-

01:12:18 - Yeah, exactly, Brown's home.

01:12:20 - Yeah, they have some time to get it together.

01:12:22 A little team bonding on the road.

01:12:25 And again, you can be very, very annoyed

01:12:30 by how this game went.

01:12:32 You can be disappointed.

01:12:33 You can be somewhat concerned just on a macro level,

01:12:38 just because there is, yeah, here you go.

01:12:41 - That was pretty funny.

01:12:42 - There is the idea that this is not,

01:12:47 we know this is not a one-time thing

01:12:49 because we've seen it now a few times

01:12:53 and a couple as of late.

01:12:54 So if you're trying to find things

01:12:57 or if you're looking for things to cause you concern

01:13:03 or give you a little pause,

01:13:05 Bobby, you mentioned it,

01:13:07 very, very late game execution, it would be one.

01:13:10 And the other one would be not being able to,

01:13:13 not that they don't, but in some situations like tonight,

01:13:18 just juggling and hiding the first and second half,

01:13:22 just completely letting up.

01:13:26 And this was one example.

01:13:28 And Cleveland recently without Donovan Mitchell

01:13:30 was another example.

01:13:30 So it's a pattern a little bit.

01:13:33 So that's pretty much where you're at with it.

01:13:37 You're not changing, like you're not holding off

01:13:39 on any predictions that you had yesterday.

01:13:43 You're not gonna change your overall outcome,

01:13:46 but this is now something

01:13:47 that you're gonna be thinking about.

01:13:48 And when the playoffs do come around,

01:13:51 it's gonna be in the back of your head.

01:13:52 So.

01:13:53 - Yeah, last thing I get to say is

01:13:55 you haven't had as many of these, right?

01:13:58 Chris Depp said that this hasn't been a habit this year.

01:14:00 I don't think they've had a lot of off.

01:14:02 - Not a habit.

01:14:03 - Like this.

01:14:04 - Right.

01:14:05 - It's not a habit.

01:14:06 - I'll stack them up.

01:14:06 It's Charlotte, that Lakers game and this one.

01:14:10 I think that's it in terms of-

01:14:11 - Cleveland.

01:14:13 - Cleveland, that was recently.

01:14:14 - Yeah, but I'm saying games you should have never lost

01:14:16 in a million years.

01:14:18 I know you're big in that game and that makes it that way,

01:14:20 but you go into that game on the road against Cle,

01:14:22 I mean, that's the third best team in the conference.

01:14:24 So I don't put that one in the same category

01:14:27 as these three where LeBron and Davis are sitting,

01:14:29 that Hornets team was horrendous,

01:14:30 and this Hawks team put a non-playoff team

01:14:34 on the floor tonight.

01:14:35 So those are three in a class of their own.

01:14:37 Whereas last year, I think you had like eight

01:14:38 or nine of those at least.

01:14:41 So that's a different situation this year.

01:14:44 I just don't like the response being the same.

01:14:48 This is fine, onto the next one, we're okay.

01:14:53 'Cause you find yourself in those situations

01:14:55 in the playoffs and you can't do that.

01:14:57 Remember last year down 0-3 and it's just a scramble

01:15:00 to start identifying issues and figuring things out.

01:15:03 - Well, that's the bad thing.

01:15:05 - I remember Al saying around that time last year,

01:15:08 we should have identified these things sooner.

01:15:12 We were trying to identify these things sooner

01:15:14 and figure them out.

01:15:16 You gotta get ahead on stuff like this

01:15:18 'cause it's gonna happen, Jimmy.

01:15:19 It's not gonna be, get it out of your heads.

01:15:23 They're not gonna win the championship

01:15:25 blowing every team away by a million points.

01:15:28 Especially the style they play.

01:15:29 'Cause Jimmy, first half you're on fire from three,

01:15:31 second half you're ice cold and you gotta figure it out.

01:15:35 And no one's gonna accept once again,

01:15:37 'cause people try to say it after the East finals.

01:15:40 Does anyone look back at those East finals and say,

01:15:43 ah, they just missed shots

01:15:44 and the Heat made a bunch of shots, oh well.

01:15:46 You can, but does that make you feel any better

01:15:48 about how that series went?

01:15:50 So it just, again, I don't wanna overreact to this one

01:15:53 'cause I do think for three quarters,

01:15:55 you're experimenting and you're down two point guards

01:15:57 and all those excuses are valid.

01:15:59 But then you get to the very end

01:16:00 and I think that's a real takeaway.

01:16:02 That crunch time situation

01:16:03 is a real sore spot for this team.

01:16:05 - Backs my dog.

01:16:09 Josue, you got any final thoughts here?

01:16:11 - Yeah, man.

01:16:12 I just think the team needs to get back

01:16:15 to just being what it,

01:16:16 when it's at its best on the defensive end of the floor.

01:16:19 And that shouldn't change much,

01:16:22 even though when guys are out of the lineup

01:16:24 and I know Derek White and Drew Holiday,

01:16:26 they really missed those guys tonight,

01:16:27 but I just feel like they're approaching that first half.

01:16:30 I mean, yes, I guess it's easier to play defense

01:16:32 when your three point shots are falling.

01:16:35 You got this 20 point lead going on 30,

01:16:38 but I just think they can't change

01:16:41 what they're doing on the end of the floor, no matter what.

01:16:43 And I think a lot of the times

01:16:44 when teams are able to just go on a quick run

01:16:48 against the Celtics,

01:16:50 they have to learn to fight back.

01:16:52 And a lot of the times,

01:16:53 that's the difference in those matches

01:16:56 that you brought up, Bobby,

01:16:57 especially the teams that are shorthanded,

01:16:59 have nothing to lose.

01:17:00 Like we're not even supposed to win this game anyways.

01:17:02 Like that's what they feed off of.

01:17:04 And I also think they feed off of that lax approach.

01:17:07 You know, so that can't be something that we see again,

01:17:12 you know, from this point forward,

01:17:13 they got to approach every game,

01:17:15 'cause these are tune-ups for the playoffs essentially.

01:17:17 So they have to approach it that way.

01:17:19 And I feel like that's not always the case

01:17:21 or they let up in certain quarters

01:17:24 and they haven't done it in a while, you know?

01:17:27 So obviously the win streak was great, you know,

01:17:30 almost the second time that they extended it

01:17:33 to double digits, didn't happen this time around,

01:17:35 but hopefully this is just a one-off.

01:17:37 - We got to remember, no guards tonight.

01:17:39 - You don't see this again.

01:17:40 - No guards tonight.

01:17:41 We got to remember, they didn't have Paul any more weight.

01:17:44 - I think the point was holding it down, all right, Jimmy?

01:17:46 And he's, he's holding the ball.

01:17:50 That's what he was doing.

01:17:51 - I think there's three very valid excuses out of this one.

01:17:55 And that doesn't excuse how the game ended

01:17:58 'cause that's anybody's ball game

01:17:59 once it's one point game late,

01:18:01 but you were fooling around with lineups and strategy

01:18:05 and a lot of different stuff throughout the flow of the game.

01:18:06 So it's a mild excuse.

01:18:08 And listen, the Hawks team is missing two key guys.

01:18:11 Maybe the two best players on the other side.

01:18:13 So that, that raises most of the excuse there.

01:18:16 - Right, right, right.

01:18:18 - The way the game ended is inexcusable.

01:18:20 - If you're just thinking about execution though,

01:18:22 like on offense, like things are going to change completely

01:18:24 with the holiday and or white out there.

01:18:26 - Right. Hopefully holiday's healthy.

01:18:28 - Yeah, you asked about that earlier.

01:18:31 - Pritchard was carving up that defense.

01:18:34 - I thought Pritchard was pretty good in this one.

01:18:35 - He was fine, but he, he, he was fine,

01:18:37 but you're like, I'm sorry, you're not going to,

01:18:40 like Pritchard's not your only starting guard

01:18:42 in the playoffs.

01:18:43 So like, he's going to be in a different role.

01:18:46 Real quick.

01:18:47 - I was just surprised how the adjustments

01:18:49 really threw him off in the second half.

01:18:51 I don't know.

01:18:51 I feel like he just completely lost control.

01:18:53 - Joe went to start, he went,

01:18:54 he went to Pritchard to start the second half.

01:18:58 - Snyder's an excellent coach too.

01:18:59 He gave them hell in that playoff series last year.

01:19:02 - That's what I was saying before you hopped on, man.

01:19:04 I'm thinking, man, he was like, wait a minute,

01:19:06 if I can get Przingis out of this in the second half,

01:19:08 like we got a shot here.

01:19:08 And I feel like that's essentially what he did

01:19:10 with his changes in the front court

01:19:13 and just the way these guys were playing

01:19:15 and just muscling the Celtics, you know,

01:19:17 especially with the former Celtic Bruno Fernando

01:19:20 leading things.

01:19:22 - Bobby, before we leave, do you have a,

01:19:24 do you have a little update on Holiday Forest?

01:19:27 - No concern.

01:19:29 Did some shooting here, shoot around.

01:19:31 He rolled back in some comments about the dead arm.

01:19:36 And I said, it's more just the after effects

01:19:38 of the collision there.

01:19:39 So I think, you know, John's assessment,

01:19:42 the medical diagnosis we got from John was pretty accurate.

01:19:45 Just a little bit of stinger.

01:19:47 And they're taking their time with that.

01:19:48 Joe said before the game, he's not worried at all.

01:19:51 - All right.

01:19:53 That's the holiday update, guys.

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01:20:56 - I believe in a few minutes, we'll go live again here

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01:20:59 I want to say we're going live, but-

01:21:01 - I think you are.

01:21:03 - Yeah, I'm almost certain we are.

01:21:04 - I don't know if you are, but there will be-

01:21:06 - It's always wifi depending, Kevin.

01:21:08 It's always wifi depending.

01:21:09 - Are we going live or are you not going live?

01:21:11 - I know Ahmed is on the court right now

01:21:14 waiting for Bobby to get out there, so we will-

01:21:15 - Ahmed's doing the tests.

01:21:17 We met up with some special guests,

01:21:18 so just stay tuned to the channel here.

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01:21:29 We want to thank everybody for joining us tonight.

01:21:31 Thank you, Bobby from Atlanta.

01:21:33 Thank you, Joe Sway from Brockton.

01:21:36 Just kidding, wherever you're at these days.

01:21:38 (laughing)

01:21:40 We'll see Bobby again on Thursday with a rematch.

01:21:45 - Game two.

01:21:46 - Celtics have a chance to make up for this disaster.

01:21:49 How about that?

01:21:51 So we will see you guys on Thursday

01:21:54 and I am going to look for the outro.

01:21:58 Deuces.

01:22:00 - Wait, Ahmed's got an outro for us.

01:22:03 - No, he doesn't.

01:22:03 - He said he was going to work on an outro.

01:22:06 - He had a phenomenal game.

01:22:08 - Phenomenal.

01:22:10 (laughing)

01:22:11 - Poor Frito, I think it's an option.

01:22:13 (laughing)

01:22:16 - That did not sound like a chair.

01:22:18 - It was a freaking chair.

01:22:20 It does sound like a chair.

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