Love It or List It Season 20 Episode 3
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00:00We've been through your house.
00:01We've seen the good, we've seen the bad.
00:03And look at this!
00:05That needs to go.
00:06What do you think of a townhouse?
00:07Four floors of goodness.
00:09I have to convince Joyce to move.
00:11Look forward to this rollercoaster ride.
00:13Check.
00:13So my view now is a beige-colored wall.
00:17I actually quite like this.
00:18Yes.
00:20Tell me the words, a rooftop patio.
00:23I have to convince Dave to stay.
00:25This is what I've been waiting for.
00:27I don't have the money for this.
00:28Resale's looking like a pretty good option.
00:30Ooh, welcome to your new home.
00:33Oh my gosh.
00:34I'm trying not to cry.
00:35Are you going to love it?
00:37Or are you going to list it?
00:44I am Joyce.
00:46I'm David.
00:47We've been together for 12 years.
00:48Well, we love a lot of the same activities.
00:50Running, swimming, cycling.
00:52Active pursuits.
00:52We live in a three-bedroom, two-bathroom bungalow
00:56here in the city.
00:57In the city?
00:58You mean suburbs?
00:59No.
00:59But there's nothing around us that says city.
01:01We're in the quiet part of the city, then.
01:03We pay city taxes.
01:04It doesn't count.
01:05I work downtown, and I'm really tired of the commute.
01:08It's just commuting.
01:09This is Joyce's childhood home.
01:12You know, it's the only house she's ever known.
01:13That's where I used to sit.
01:15Learned how to walk, taking my first steps
01:17in that very living room.
01:18I spent my whole life living here,
01:20and I plan to keep it that way.
01:22This is home.
01:23This house is built in the 1950s
01:25and trapped in the late 80s or early 1990s.
01:28Great spot for entertaining with a wall
01:30that closes off the entire space.
01:33The current floor plan basically obstructs
01:35what it has to offer.
01:36I can't even imagine what we could do
01:37to make this space functional,
01:39other than find somewhere else to live.
01:43There is nothing about this kitchen that works.
01:45This is nice when this happens.
01:48Just needs to be updated.
01:51Once Paige comes in and, you know,
01:53waves her magic wand and makes it feel like a home,
01:56not just for me, but for Dave, he will love it.
01:59I disagree.
02:00This house is never going to be a house in this city,
02:02and it's never going to be a house that feels like home.
02:03I think it's time to go.
02:05What do you think?
02:06I think this neighborhood is beautiful.
02:08What I'm seeing here...
02:10It's a postage stamp.
02:11It's a cute postage stamp.
02:13Just needs some love.
02:14Let's go look at the house.
02:14Why are you walking so fast today?
02:17I always walk this fast.
02:18Let's check it out.
02:19After you.
02:20Oh.
02:21Ooh, nice bear.
02:22All right.
02:24Oh.
02:25We're in a little bit of a time capsule right now.
02:29Flooring clearly original.
02:31The curtains are from the 70s.
02:32I had them.
02:33They have not lifted a finger.
02:35A finger.
02:36Nothing.
02:36You know, Joyce was born in this house.
02:37I know.
02:38This is what it looked like her whole life.
02:40Yeah.
02:40He moved in,
02:41and they still haven't touched anything in nine years.
02:44No.
02:44We're just telling me Joyce is not allowing him to.
02:47It's a tough conversation to have about changing things.
02:50You know?
02:51Which means I have to have it.
02:52You do.
02:53Because they need to stay in this house.
02:54Well, or if they're going to sell it,
02:56they certainly need to do something.
02:57Let's see the kitchen.
02:59Oh.
03:02Oh, my gosh.
03:05Oh, my gosh.
03:06This is a lot.
03:08Listen, if they haven't even touched the kitchen,
03:10that means the whole house is like this.
03:11What is this, like wallpaper?
03:13Probably.
03:15Wallpaper before tile?
03:17This is not wallpaper.
03:18It's vinyl flooring.
03:19And look at this.
03:21Is this a cassette tape?
03:25I mean, this is a time capsule.
03:27This is...
03:27This is.
03:28...my childhood as exciting...
03:31Oh!
03:33I've already started demo.
03:34Anything else you want to break?
03:35There we go.
03:36There we go.
03:36Let's go to the next room.
03:37Let's get out of here.
03:38All right.
03:39Let's see.
03:40Door number one.
03:42Bedroom.
03:43Office.
03:44All right.
03:45Bedroom number two.
03:46I would imagine this is the primary.
03:49It's got a closet that, um...
03:51Double closet.
03:52Needs some work.
03:53It doesn't open.
03:54But this is a nice-sized room.
03:56This whole house is just for the two of them.
03:57Right.
03:58Maybe they need to downsize.
03:59I didn't think about that,
04:00but maybe they can downsize.
04:02That's not a bad idea.
04:04Wow.
04:05Look at it.
04:06Joyce.
04:07This was probably her childhood room.
04:09Yep.
04:11Untouched.
04:13Untouched.
04:13Look at all the middles.
04:14I know.
04:15Wow.
04:15That is a boatload.
04:17All right.
04:18Let's see the bathroom.
04:20Oh!
04:21Look at this.
04:22That floor-to-ceiling tile.
04:24My gosh.
04:25Wow.
04:25There's no way they have heated floors.
04:27No.
04:28Oh!
04:30Oh!
04:31They got a jetted tub.
04:33That needs to go.
04:35Well, turn it off before it explodes.
04:36I will.
04:39I mean, look at this toilet.
04:40Were people shorter back in the 60s and 70s?
04:42That thing is still going.
04:44Because it...
04:44Listen to it.
04:45I told you it was going to blow up.
04:46Let's go to the basement.
04:47It's taking time bomb.
04:48It's going to blow.
04:50It's a basement, all right.
04:51It sure is.
04:52Low ceilings.
04:53Low ceilings.
04:54Oh!
04:54There's light at the end of the tunnel!
04:56I'm so happy.
04:57We have a walkout basement.
04:59That is the one positive in this house that I've seen, is the walkout.
05:03The fact that you can leave the basement.
05:06I'm saying it because there's good light.
05:08No, no, no.
05:08I agree.
05:08This is a separate entrance.
05:10100% agree.
05:10I'm saying that they have opportunities in here that they're not taking advantage of.
05:14Stationary cycles.
05:16Yeah.
05:16Because you hook up your own bike to it.
05:18Your own 10-speed.
05:19Do they still call them 10-speeds?
05:20No, they don't.
05:21So you're also stuck in the 80s.
05:23I am!
05:25A 10-speed.
05:26This isn't bad, though.
05:27This is a great space.
05:29This is nice.
05:30Very nice.
05:31A garden?
05:32Oh, this is beautiful.
05:34They are staying.
05:35Because if you think about it, if they downsize, they can't take their bikes.
05:38They won't have their garden.
05:40Whoa, whoa, whoa, slow down.
05:40They won't have a big backyard, an awkward house.
05:42Uh-oh.
05:43Depending on where they want to be, I mean, that's the question.
05:46Do they want to stay in this neighborhood?
05:47I don't know.
05:48If you think Joyce is going to leave this house, she won't even touch the house.
05:51So imagine trying to get her out of the house.
05:53That sometimes is a problem.
05:54Too much attachment.
05:55Can't leave, can't do what makes sense, can't touch it.
05:57I'm going to touch this house.
06:01There's only two of them.
06:03No cat, no dog.
06:04No kids, which means the options are endless.
06:07Hell, I can show them a condo, a townhouse, a bungalow, a two-story.
06:12It's going to be easy.
06:13David may have a vision for these homeowners out of this house,
06:17but I have an amazing vision for them to stay in this house.
06:22I hope.
06:28Hello.
06:29Well, hi, Joyce and David.
06:31Good morning, guys.
06:32Morning.
06:32How are you?
06:33Good.
06:34Nervous.
06:34Nervous and excited.
06:35Nervous and excited.
06:35Nervous and excited.
06:35Nervous and excited, yeah.
06:36Nervous and excited, yeah.
06:36Nervous and excited, yeah.
06:36You know.
06:37Stressed?
06:37All those things that come with a change.
06:41I know you're attached to your house, and we've been through your house.
06:43So we've seen everything.
06:44We've seen the good.
06:45We've seen the bad.
06:46A lot of bad.
06:47It needs a serious amount of work.
06:48It really was nostalgic walking through.
06:50So I know how important this home is to you, so I know how important this home is to you.
06:52Or else you would have done away with a lot of it years and years and years ago.
06:56To be honest, it's never felt like my house.
06:57That's kind of the biggest issue for me, is that house has really, it's never felt like mine.
07:02It's always been a reflection of Joyce's family, her past.
07:05Paige knows that she needs to make this our home now, so she's going to do that for us.
07:11And then we'll just live it and stay there forever.
07:14Oh, I love this.
07:15The debate is on.
07:16Yes.
07:16I mean, need change, but I think the best way for that change to happen is for us to go and for us to find a new place together.
07:23That's what I'm here for.
07:24I take no backseat to you, my friend.
07:26But he did take the words out of my mouth.
07:28That's why I'm actually here.
07:30Oh, I see.
07:30To completely reimagine the home that you love so much, Joyce, that you grew up in.
07:35Keep the heartbeat, keep the soul of the house, but make it feel like it's your home as well, because it does have good bones.
07:42Well, I'm going to find you a house that also has good bones, that will not need any renovating, that will definitely be yours because you'll be deciding to buy it, the both of you.
07:51I've done an evaluation on your home, all right?
07:53And the value currently, before any renovations are done, is $950,000.
07:57Once Paige does what she's going to do, it's going to increase the value substantially, which is going to help when you put it on the market.
08:03So what is the must-have list to get you out of that house, Joyce?
08:07Well, I definitely need an open concept.
08:10An updated kitchen is the must I love to cook.
08:12At least two bedrooms, plus an office, an outdoor space, so a big enough balcony to plant something in planter boxes or a small yard.
08:20And I guess the biggest thing is we need to find a good space for our bikes.
08:24We have a lot of bikes.
08:25We do have a lot of bikes.
08:26Now, you haven't really talked about location.
08:29For me, being a little bit closer to downtown, I want less commuting.
08:32I want less driving to and from work.
08:33It's just back and forth, constantly driving, constant traffic.
08:37Keeping all of that in mind, what you need in a house and what you need in location, what is the budget?
08:43Well, we talked about that, obviously.
08:45We landed on $975,000.
08:46So when you start talking about houses, you know, closer to downtown, it might get tough with that budget.
08:52But there are other options that we will look at.
08:55But I'm happy with this beginning.
08:56This is fantastic information.
08:58I think that I probably could tell you what you need to stay, but I would like to hear from you, David.
09:05What will you need to stay in this house?
09:07For me, I definitely want to see the main floor opened up, updating the kitchen.
09:11Absolute must.
09:12Bathroom has to be done.
09:14Refreshing the bedrooms, definitely important.
09:17But I think maybe most importantly is just for me to have a space, my own space, a dedicated space, something that I can feel like, you know, is truly mine in that house.
09:26What is the budget that I have to get all this done with?
09:29Our absolute limit on the renovation would be $120,000.
09:34Okay.
09:35$120,000 is a lot of money.
09:36And I will come up with a great plan to give you a home that you will fall back in love with and that you will feel like is your own.
09:43It's going to have to be a pretty big drastic change in the house, I think, for me to push aside, like, my need to be closer to the city.
09:52Well, that I can guarantee you will happen.
09:53It will be a very drastic change.
09:55When I get done with your home, you're both going to love it.
09:57Well, I think getting you closer downtown is going to make you listed.
10:00Yeah, I'm very picky, so good luck with that.
10:03Listen, listen, that's good.
10:04I like picky people.
10:06Look forward to this roller coaster ride.
10:07Oh, boy.
10:11Good day, good day.
10:13Age.
10:13How you doing?
10:14You're late.
10:15I'm on time.
10:16Yeah, I was early, actually.
10:17No, I'm kidding.
10:17First time.
10:18Yeah, exactly, exactly.
10:19Well, this one's going to be fun.
10:20Yeah?
10:20I have a little surprise as soon as I open this door.
10:22Oh.
10:24Oh.
10:25That's a good entrance.
10:26Exactly.
10:27Let's start in the kitchen.
10:28Wow.
10:29Something else.
10:30It's original.
10:31Right?
10:31Very.
10:32The whole house.
10:33Joyce has lived in this house since she was, like, literally a baby.
10:37Oh, really?
10:38Yes.
10:38Wow.
10:38She's never moved out, and so David moved in, and now's the time to make a major life change.
10:47We're going to completely gut the kitchen.
10:49These walls come down.
10:50Nice, open concept.
10:52We'll do a pony wall between the front door and the kitchen, and then I can create a peninsula
10:57with seating.
10:59We'll give them a new gas stove, lots of counter space, and plenty of cabinetry for storage throughout.
11:06And that's it.
11:06Nice.
11:07All right?
11:07So let's go to the other side of this wall that won't be here, and that takes us around
11:11to the living room.
11:12And great dining area.
11:14It's a nice big space, which I like.
11:16Is this dining, or is this office?
11:19Well, currently, it's being used as an office.
11:22But it will go back to dining, which brings me to what's on the other side of this wall.
11:27I want to turn this bedroom into a dedicated office.
11:30We're going to open up this wall, so the entrance will be on this side, and we'll remove this
11:35door and close off the wall.
11:36Bathroom.
11:37Bathroom.
11:38So complete gut.
11:39And I want to flip everything around in here.
11:42So this is the back of the bedroom closet on the other side of this wall, and I need the space.
11:47So I want to blast through here and create space for a double vanity.
11:51And then just flip the toilet around, give them a huge shower.
11:55Coming down to the basement, look at this.
11:58Beautiful.
12:00So what I want to do is make it a really special place, especially for David.
12:05So all of this will be gone.
12:07We're going to get rid of everything, though.
12:08Everything has to go.
12:08Handling, ceiling.
12:09Oh, my God, this has to go.
12:11That's about it.
12:12I mean, it's enough.
12:13Yeah.
12:13But it's enough to give them the change that they want, because Joyce is a little resistant
12:19to changing anything.
12:21It definitely needs a refresh.
12:22What kind of budget are we looking at?
12:23$120,000.
12:25The budget's good.
12:26My only concern is there's always one surprise or two, right?
12:29Once we get it demoed.
12:30Then let's start demo tomorrow so we can find out.
12:33No, tomorrow's Saturday.
12:34I don't wear Saturdays.
12:38We are downtown, exactly where David wants to be.
12:41This condo, it has two bedrooms, two bathrooms, nice little den where they could have an office
12:45space, where they could have their bikes, open concept main floor.
12:49And a beautiful view over the city.
12:53It is gorgeous.
12:55Will Joyce love it?
12:56Let's find out.
13:00Hello.
13:01Good morning.
13:02Bit of a different scene here than your neighborhood.
13:04Yeah, it's very noisy.
13:05Eventually, that condo will be up, and then you won't hear all that noise.
13:09And you'll just be able to enjoy what is at your fingertips.
13:12A lot of action.
13:13A lot of action and a lot of great condos.
13:15So let's go have a look at it.
13:16Okay.
13:17Okay.
13:17Sounds good.
13:18It's on the 11th floor.
13:21All right, so downtown condo living experiment number one.
13:26So it's going to have most of what you need, but it is going to be a little bit more compact
13:30than having two levels of a house.
13:33Okay.
13:33But no stairs.
13:34You've got your main floor laundry, and then main bath for guests.
13:38The den can be an office space.
13:40Could be where you set up your bikes.
13:42It's a perfect size for a training room.
13:43But I also need an office.
13:45Bikes here, desk there.
13:47So my view now is a beige-colored wall.
13:51But some artwork.
13:52Oh yeah, that's great.
13:53Okay.
13:54A lot more to see.
13:54Let's head this way.
13:55Main area.
13:56You have your kitchen, living room combination.
13:59Got a little bit of outdoor space where you can have coffee.
14:02Beautiful view.
14:03I mean, look at the view across the city you've got.
14:05Amazing view.
14:06And the view is pretty spectacular.
14:08Yeah, that's really nice.
14:10Very small kitchen.
14:11But it's nice and open, and there's lots of prep space.
14:15Like, with a dining area just adjacent to it.
14:17Like, I think this is a really nice setup, actually.
14:20Yes, because we dine a lot in our dining room.
14:23Well, that's because it's your office.
14:26It's just small.
14:27You're going to give up certain things, you know, for the benefit of being where you are.
14:31All right?
14:32Okay, so, bedroom number one.
14:34Decent-sized bedroom.
14:35You've got good storage.
14:38Beautiful view, obviously.
14:40Yeah, I would almost flip the two from the den.
14:43I would actually make this my office, put a desk here so I get to look out onto the greenery.
14:48You could.
14:49I mean, depending on how often you have guests come over, this could be your office.
14:52What else?
14:54Whatever.
14:56What else?
14:57Okay, so, we're heading over to the main bedroom.
15:00I've been clear this place in, like, four steps.
15:03That's great.
15:04Main bedroom.
15:05Spacious.
15:06Big enough for a king-sized bed if you want.
15:08Again, an incredible view.
15:10Does have nice natural light.
15:12And it does come with an ensuite.
15:13I do like having an ensuite, because we definitely don't have this in our house.
15:19Walk-in shower, nice big tub, double sinks.
15:23When we entertain, we don't have to clean up the bathroom.
15:26Mm-hmm.
15:26Yes.
15:27It's the one positive thing that I can say.
15:31How do you feel about this condo?
15:33It's a pretty condo.
15:35I just don't think it's for us or for me.
15:38I just, when I look at a condo, I never think there's much value in it, because you're paying
15:43so much for not a lot of square footage versus a house.
15:48And when I think of value, I think about location, I think about convenience, I think
15:53about all of those things.
15:54What do you think this house is listed at?
15:56$9.75.
15:57What do you think?
15:58$1,075.
16:00This condo's listed at $975,000.
16:03So, right on your budget.
16:05Yeah.
16:05Right, of $975,000.
16:07I don't know about the condo situation for you guys.
16:11I mean, would you consider a townhouse?
16:13I actually quite like a townhouse.
16:15How do you feel about that?
16:16If it's a downtown location, then I'm all in for sure.
16:21As much as that was a disaster for Joyce, it opened up something incredible.
16:27David definitely does have his work cut out for him.
16:30I have confidence that he's going to be able to find something.
16:32I just don't think so.
16:37Still packing.
16:39Yeah, some last minute things, you know?
16:41How are you doing?
16:42It's just setting in now that this house will never look the same again.
16:47This is the last time I'm going to see this kitchen.
16:50Let me just say this.
16:50There'll be some walls coming down, pushed back, moved around a little bit.
16:54So, I just want to prepare you for that.
16:56To start with this foyer wall, I want to take her down.
17:03But put back a pony wall.
17:05So, that's a half wall.
17:07And then the top will be glass.
17:09But it won't be a glass that you can see straight through.
17:11Now, the pony wall will continue to right here.
17:14And then with this living room, wall down, I'm going to do a peninsula.
17:18So, it'll go this way.
17:19So, you have some good prep space.
17:21And that will be how we open this wall.
17:23Okay.
17:24The rest of the kitchen is going to come out and go far, far away.
17:29This is what I've been waiting for.
17:31Now, let me ask you a question.
17:32What do you feel about skylight?
17:33I like the idea of having more natural light come in is amazing.
17:37That's always going to be a plus, for sure.
17:39Well, it's the kitchen that we know that needs a lot of work.
17:42So, I'm excited for a new kitchen.
17:45Good.
17:46Okay, good.
17:46This is good so far.
17:47So, let's go in the living room, which, you know what, you guys, your living room and
17:52I would say dining area, but your current...
17:55My office area.
17:56Office area.
17:57This is a big space.
17:59I do want to put all new windows in, all new flooring, so everything is uniform in the
18:03house on this level.
18:06The flooring, eh?
18:07Yeah.
18:10These floors.
18:11They were the pride and joy of my mom and dad at one point.
18:14It's just a big change to see them gone.
18:17But they're worn now.
18:18Mm-hmm.
18:19Yeah.
18:20And it's time to enjoy new beautiful floors in the same house.
18:24Okay.
18:25Okay?
18:26Well, let me just keep going.
18:27I do want to put you in a proper office.
18:30In fairness, it's just because I like looking out of this window.
18:32It's a very nice view.
18:34We have other bedrooms, but the view is spectacular here.
18:39You know what?
18:39I'm glad you said that because I want this first bedroom to become your office.
18:42I want to put top slider door here, and that way when you're working in your office, if
18:47you have the door open, you can see outside.
18:49That would be perfect.
18:51That sounds amazing.
18:52Let's go into the bathroom.
18:53So there's some more moving and shaking in here, Joyce.
18:56Okay?
18:57I'm just going to prepare you.
18:58That I really want to give you guys a beautiful bathroom.
19:03This right here, this is your closet for the bedroom that's adjoining this wall.
19:07So I want to steal that space and use it for this bathroom.
19:11And you guys need the space.
19:12Yeah.
19:12I mean, you need, you deserve double vanities.
19:14You guys work hard.
19:15You need to have a little bit more breathing room, a beautiful walk-in shower.
19:19So let me just show you my idea.
19:21Coming into Joyce's room.
19:24Now, here's the closet bump out that we're going to use for the double vanity.
19:27And that'll be way more functional, having so much more space in the bathroom than this
19:31old closet.
19:33That closet worked for me.
19:35Great for resale value.
19:36That's a lot of change.
19:38I had asked, you know, just thought, you know, fresh paint, new baseboards, sand the floors
19:43and new windows could really brighten the place up.
19:45Well, you don't need me to come in and just paint baseboards.
19:47You need me to come in and give you a space where you can create new memories, but still
19:52have the honor of the layout of the floor in the house that you've loved for so long.
19:56Well, that was the whole, you know, drive to have this done was to create a space so Dave
20:02could feel like home and not, you know, my family house is our home.
20:08Well, speaking of Dave's space, your entire basement, I'm going to just take all the drop ceiling tiles down, all of the wood paneling, the flooring, and really make a beautiful space for Dave.
20:19That sounds amazing.
20:20It's a lot of change happening.
20:22It is.
20:23Yeah, it's still a lot of change.
20:24It's a lot.
20:25No more blue walls.
20:27Bye.
20:28Aw.
20:28My team is ready.
20:31And so on a yes and a green light from the two of you, we get started.
20:37And demo happens in a blink of an eye.
20:39Like day one, this whole thing will be gutted.
20:44What do you think?
20:49Yes.
20:50Yeah.
20:50Yes.
20:51Aw.
20:52I know, that's a big deal.
20:53That's a big deal.
20:54We're going to do really good together, and you're going to be very, very happy.
21:01She's in your hands.
21:03And now it's time to get to work.
21:20Oh.
21:23Hey, Paige.
21:24Hi, Matt.
21:25How are you?
21:27I'm good.
21:27There's a lot going on in here.
21:29Yeah, there is a lot going on.
21:30Like, what's going on in here?
21:32We did demolition, and there was nothing.
21:34We had no studs, no anything.
21:36Nothing?
21:36Just the concrete?
21:37Nothing. We had not any studs.
21:38Yeah, that was all we had.
21:39So in order to hang drywall, insulate, we needed to reframe all the walls.
21:44You had to frame the whole house?
21:45Whole house.
21:46Why didn't you call me?
21:47Well, there was really no choice.
21:50Like, unless we left the walls concrete.
21:52We always have a choice in life, Matt.
21:53You could just look at it.
21:55Hello?
21:55Paige, here's my challenge now.
21:57I don't have the money for this.
21:59So I have to go back and tell them, oh, we had to reframe your entire house, and there's
22:04going to be an additional cost.
22:05Maybe they'll give us more money.
22:06If not, they've got to take something off the list.
22:08Not these clients.
22:11Oh!
22:11I don't even know what to say right now.
22:12I haven't done the bathroom yet, and I haven't done anything in the basement other than take
22:16the carpet out.
22:17Oh, she's not going to be happy with this.
22:18We're downtown, but it doesn't feel like downtown, and I think that's what they're going to love
22:27about it, especially Joyce.
22:29And even though it's a townhouse complex, it feels like an actual neighborhood, and it's
22:35quiet.
22:37And it's got everything that they want.
22:38I mean, it's got three bedrooms, three bathrooms.
22:39It's got a beautiful open concept main floor, a finished basement that will be perfect for
22:44the bikes, and the price?
22:47I don't think they'll even believe it.
22:50Hello.
22:51Good morning.
22:52Morning.
22:53How do you feel about this location?
22:54It's quiet sounding, so so far, not bad.
22:57What do you think of a townhouse?
22:58Four floors of goodness.
23:00It looks cute on the outside.
23:01Yeah?
23:02I like it too.
23:03Ready?
23:03Okay.
23:04Let's go.
23:06So we're just going to head right downstairs.
23:08Okay.
23:08Hey.
23:09It's nice and light.
23:12You can have your bikes down here.
23:15Right now, your bikes are in a basement to begin with.
23:17I think this would be a perfect spot for you.
23:19Yeah.
23:19Yeah.
23:20I would agree, especially since it looks like there's an outdoor space.
23:24Good to wash the bikes out there.
23:25Absolutely.
23:26You've also got a nice little office area down here, a bit of natural light.
23:30Yeah, I like the window here.
23:31Good.
23:32So far?
23:32So far, I actually quite like it.
23:34Okay.
23:34But there's three more floors to see, so.
23:36Right, which is good.
23:37Yeah.
23:37There's more, right?
23:39More goodness.
23:39Yeah.
23:40Head upstairs.
23:41Okay.
23:45This isn't bad.
23:47Nice sunlight coming in.
23:48And good sight lines.
23:49Nice and open concept, which is what you guys wanted.
23:51I actually quite like this.
23:53Yes.
23:54Wow.
23:55Well, Joyce, you're surprising me.
23:57Me too.
23:57I'm surprising myself.
23:59Okay.
23:59I like how this is rolling.
24:02So, we've got a nice dining area and you've got a pantry.
24:06It's always nice to have extra storage.
24:08Then you've got your family room area.
24:10And it's got a nice patio where we can put a barbecue, open up these doors as well.
24:14So, it's great.
24:15Yeah.
24:15How does this feel in terms of being your main floor?
24:19It's nice.
24:21Really, eh?
24:21There's two more floors to disappoint me, so.
24:25Let's find out.
24:27And you can do a stair workout.
24:28Like, all four floors, you're just going up and down.
24:30So, this is guest level.
24:32Okay.
24:32So, you've got two bedrooms and a bathroom in between.
24:35And here is your laundry.
24:36Oh.
24:37Which is good.
24:38I mean, it's on the second floor.
24:39Just don't back up too much.
24:40I know.
24:40Don't back up too much.
24:41Watch the steps.
24:43I feel like I'm going to need a baby gate just in case when I'm doing laundry.
24:48Come on.
24:49A lot more to see.
24:50Let's head this way.
24:50The third floor is all primary.
24:52Your oasis is upstairs.
24:53Oh.
24:54Okay.
24:54Really nice and light.
24:56Nice tall ceilings.
24:58But one hiccup.
24:59Which is?
25:00There's no door.
25:01If you're watching TV and I have to go to bed early, that noise is going to travel up two flights of stairs.
25:06You want a door.
25:07I want a door.
25:07Might be something you can do at the bottom of the stairs, maybe with a pocket door.
25:10But everything you need is up here.
25:13You've got a little Juliet balcony, which is kind of cool.
25:16And you've got your main bath.
25:18Oh.
25:19It's nice.
25:20And a huge upgrade of what you currently have.
25:22I really like it, yeah.
25:23It's an upgrade.
25:24I don't want to put the word huge in front of it, but, you know.
25:27Well, if you don't get one from Paige, it's a huge upgrade.
25:35How do you feel about it overall?
25:36It's not bad.
25:38I don't mind it.
25:39Just a few little hiccups, you know.
25:41I don't mind the open bedroom.
25:43And I think the laundry issue with the stairs, I think we can deal with that.
25:47What do you think this townhouse is listed at?
25:49I think 1.1.
25:51What do you think?
25:53I'd say just a little over a million.
25:55This townhouse is listed at $770,000.
25:59Now, it's listed low to get multiple offers.
26:02That it's likely going to come in probably somewhere around your budget, which is $975,000.
26:07I really like this.
26:09I think David's nailed it.
26:11I reserve judgment.
26:12I am not changing the direction this train is going.
26:18There was way too much positivity in there to think I need to come up with a different idea.
26:23You know what?
26:24I hate to admit it, but I think David was very close on this one.
26:28So I can get Joyce's mind to a place where she can say, David, love it.
26:33And then, of course, eventually, list it.
26:42Oh, my.
26:44Oh, wow.
26:44Hey, Joyce, David.
26:47Some things to talk about.
26:49Because we had some developments.
26:51We opened up the walls, and we found there was nothing behind the drywall, except for concrete.
26:58Great.
26:58So that meant we had to frame the entire house.
27:02How much more is this going to cost us now?
27:06I'll cut to the chase.
27:06$10,000.
27:08Wow.
27:11All right.
27:12$10,000.
27:13So what's the plan?
27:15Yeah, we haven't framed the bathroom yet, so we could take that off the list.
27:19Or we can do away with your basement, David.
27:22The bathroom's, like, probably one of the most important things of the entire renovation.
27:26So I guess that means it's the basement.
27:28No.
27:29My basement that's going to get sacrificed.
27:31Because that's one of the main reasons of keeping you in this house.
27:35Well, we don't have any choice.
27:36No.
27:36Well, why don't we just keep the original floors?
27:41Okay.
27:41Oh.
27:42Okay.
27:43The floors are gone, so that's not an option anymore.
27:46That was the agreement that we had.
27:48It was in the budget.
27:49All new flooring.
27:51Now we've got to figure out where to save the money.
27:53Our choice, your choice, of whether to go with the bathroom or the basement so that we can just keep moving forward.
27:59We have to keep the bathroom.
28:01There's no, there's absolutely no choice in the matter.
28:03So if anything, this is just pushing us more and more towards selling this place and just moving on.
28:08Resale's looking like a pretty good option.
28:10Ooh.
28:13I need your decision.
28:14Do you want to go with the bathroom or with the basement?
28:18We don't need an extravagant new bathroom.
28:21There's not even a question.
28:22We can't leave the bathroom, like, done halfway.
28:26Or not, like, it's, it's, we have to do the bathroom for resale.
28:29Well, I guess it's, it's your basement then.
28:33Yeah.
28:33Oh, this is ridiculous.
28:37Oh, my goodness.
28:42Hello.
28:44Hey, Joyce, how are you?
28:45So, um, David has shown us some real contenders.
28:52Um, and, you know, the leaning towards listing is, is becoming more and more of a reality.
28:59So, I can get you $7,000 for anything you can do to the basement to help push David back on our side.
29:07Perfect.
29:07So, work that magic, pull that rabbit out of your hat, and thank you so much.
29:14I'm excited.
29:14Okay, Joyce, I'm on it.
29:26Hello, hello.
29:27Hey, babe.
29:28Oh, hey.
29:29Wow, I was going to say, how's it going, but it is going well.
29:33It looks good in here.
29:34It's coming along.
29:35Wow.
29:36Kitchen's almost done.
29:37I've ordered the countertops, so when they get here, we're ready.
29:40Sky lights are coming tomorrow.
29:42Bathroom's drywalled and everything.
29:43It's just we haven't started tiling yet.
29:45This is pretty impressive.
29:47I like it.
29:47Well, thank you.
29:48Want to run something by you?
29:49What's up?
29:50Talk to Joyce, and she found $7,000 to give to me to refresh the basement.
29:55Right.
29:55That I had to take off the list.
29:56I know that this is what I definitely need to keep David in this house.
30:00I figure we can just, you know, make her pretty down there.
30:04Drywall, paint, flooring.
30:05There's still a lot to do for $7,000, though.
30:07Like, there's a lot of labor involved in that.
30:09I think that you and I doing it, we can knock it out.
30:11Like, after hours, we can just knock it out.
30:14For you, I'll do it.
30:14Thank you, Matt.
30:15You know what, actually?
30:16If we're going ahead with it, the kitchen's pretty well wrapped.
30:19Yep.
30:19But I'll get them started on demo if you're saying we're doing it.
30:22Yeah.
30:23Okay.
30:23All right.
30:24Get going?
30:24All right, then I'll see you when we have to put in our elbow grease.
30:27Well, it's starting now.
30:28You're not staying?
30:29Not for demo.
30:29Oh, not demo.
30:30Okay.
30:42We are downtown once again with Joyce and David.
30:46It is a house that gives them everything that they want.
30:49Three bedrooms, three bathrooms, open concept.
30:52It's got a great area for the bikes and the view.
30:56Wait till you see the view.
30:59So, how are you liking this coming to downtown experience we've been doing?
31:04It's been interesting.
31:06It's noisy here, though.
31:07Even with the noise, still, this is an amazing location.
31:10Awesome.
31:11Yeah.
31:11Let's go have a look.
31:15Okay.
31:17Did not anticipate this when I was standing outside.
31:20You've got your dining area with a nice little set of doors.
31:24You've got your main floor powder room.
31:26You've got your kitchen.
31:27And lots of storage space, great counter space.
31:30I like how everything can be contained from an entertaining perspective on this floor.
31:35That's good.
31:36Let's head upstairs.
31:37This second level is basically all yours.
31:39Okay.
31:40Where you have what is going to be your primary bathroom.
31:43So, you've got a jetted tub.
31:44You've got a massive shower, which is nice.
31:46It only has the one sink.
31:48Oh, we're used to one sink.
31:49But that's why I don't think that's a big deal.
31:50And this door leads through to the primary bedroom.
31:54Oh.
31:55Beautiful big window, sort of overlooking a little park.
31:58So far, it's not bad.
32:00Let's head to the third floor.
32:01So, this is going to be the guest level.
32:06You've got a bedroom here.
32:08Could be my office.
32:09That's perfectly set up for an office.
32:10Yeah.
32:10Yeah.
32:11And then you've got a bathroom.
32:13And then bedroom number three could be where the bikes go for spinning.
32:17This would be a perfect workout room.
32:18Yeah.
32:18I think the only potential issue is when we do have the full family over, we would have
32:24to move the bikes somewhere else.
32:26I think it's workable.
32:27It's workable.
32:28Now, it doesn't have a backyard, but it does have something better.
32:32Tell me the words are rooftop patio.
32:35It is a rooftop patio.
32:36Oh, I love it.
32:38I actually really do.
32:39This is amazing.
32:40Yeah.
32:41Yeah.
32:41Look at the view of the city you've got.
32:43It's quite incredible.
32:44Oh, that is a wonderful view of the city between the apartment building.
32:47You can see people on the balcony, and they can see us.
32:50So, great entertainment up here.
32:52Oh, come on.
32:52That's over to the side.
32:53It's not even right in front of us.
32:54That's the biggest problem.
32:58How do you feel about this place overall?
33:00Actually, I didn't think I would like it as much as I do.
33:04What do you think this townhouse is listed at?
33:06$989.
33:08What do you think?
33:09Um, I'd say $955.
33:10This is listed at $975,000.
33:13So, we are right on budget.
33:15How does this stack go?
33:16Well, for me, it's actually a toss-up between this one and the other townhouse that we looked at.
33:23That one had that basement with the walkout into that courtyard.
33:26Yep.
33:27So, that space itself is great for our bikes.
33:30We're not actually eating into a second bedroom.
33:34It was perfect.
33:35Yeah.
33:35It was a perfect setup for the bikes, for sure.
33:36For sure.
33:37Yep.
33:37Second place was quieter.
33:38The location, don't think we could get any better, like, even if we picked it ourselves.
33:42Do you have an idea which one you think is the better option for you two?
33:46I think the other townhouse that we looked at might edge out this one.
33:51The one on the quiet street.
33:52Yeah.
33:52I do agree.
33:53I really love it.
33:54Decisions made?
33:55Absolutely.
33:56Yes.
33:56But, and we also have to see what Paige can do with her magic wand.
34:00Paige here?
34:01Yeah.
34:01I think Joyce is now in on coming downtown, and that's huge for me.
34:10I have every hope and faith that Paige is going to knock it out of the park.
34:14Or maybe it'll feel so changed to you that it doesn't feel like your house anymore, and
34:18it doesn't remind you of the house that you grew up within that you love so much.
34:22This place is buzzing with energy, and I'm so excited to see my vision for Joyce and Dave's
34:27home finally coming to life.
34:29I just hope it's enough to get Dave to love it.
34:32All right, let's get this party started.
34:34To help save money and make the basement a reality, Matt and I are doing the work ourselves.
34:41If you think that I'm going to let David win this thing, nope.
34:46Remember, I got it.
34:58Wow.
34:59Look at the new sofa.
35:00Wow.
35:01Hello.
35:01Hello.
35:02How are you guys?
35:03Good.
35:05Looking at all the black just makes a huge difference.
35:09I'm excited.
35:10So are we.
35:11We are, too.
35:11All right, big changes are inside.
35:13This is not the same house you grew up in.
35:16Let's go ahead.
35:17Welcome to your new home.
35:18Holy sugar nuts.
35:20I know.
35:21Oh.
35:21Wow.
35:23There's no mirror here.
35:26I have no idea where we are.
35:27Could not picture this at all, but it's incredible.
35:30It's stunning.
35:31Well, let's keep going.
35:32Okay.
35:33There's a lot more surprises.
35:34Your new formal living room.
35:42Looking into your new dining room.
35:44It's pretty unbelievable.
35:48Are you okay?
35:48I'm trying not to cry.
35:50I know.
35:50So I don't want to be that person that cries.
35:52It's okay to be that person because, you know, this home means that much to you.
35:57And this is a massive transformation.
36:00I know my parents would be so happy.
36:05It's like, wow.
36:06Well, let's talk about your floors.
36:10We went with a little bit of a wider plank so it opens up your space.
36:14Yes.
36:14It's hardwood.
36:16So you're not going to lose the element of what you were cherishing before in your original home.
36:23And now we're in the kitchen.
36:25So Joyce is not listening to me anymore.
36:27So, okay, well, let's just go look in the kitchen.
36:29There was a wall here and now it's gone.
36:33Wow.
36:35This is the kitchen that you grew up in.
36:37Wow.
36:37And hopefully this is the kitchen I'll grow old in.
36:40Like, this is beyond what we had pictured, honestly.
36:45This skylight is just bringing in so much natural light, Paige.
36:48Look at all the space you have.
36:49There's so much storage in here.
36:51Great prep space.
36:52I mean, you guys can really start entertaining here.
36:55And everything really connects.
36:57Nothing feels like a separate space anymore.
36:58It's just, like, all one unified, like, yeah.
37:02I'm speechless, which Dave knows doesn't actually happen to me at all.
37:08No.
37:08I know that.
37:09I know that.
37:10Ever?
37:10Ever?
37:11Ever?
37:11You also have your own office now.
37:15Would you like to see it?
37:16Yes.
37:17Let's go check it out.
37:18Love the door.
37:22Joyce, your new office.
37:25Oh, my God.
37:28This is an office.
37:30It is an office.
37:31While you're working, you can still see out your picture window.
37:33That is exactly what I wanted.
37:35And that's why I wanted to move the door so you would have that access.
37:38Now it allows for, like, the dining room to actually be a dining room, the office to be an office.
37:44Whole new level of function.
37:46And we still have a closet here so it can be a bedroom again.
37:48It can be a den.
37:50This is perfect.
37:50So should we go look at your new bathroom?
37:52Okay.
37:53Oh, my God.
37:53Oh, my God.
38:07I love the blue tile.
38:09The rain shower.
38:10I love the wallpaper.
38:11Love the double vanity.
38:13I love it all.
38:14Okay, you guys.
38:15Let's head down to the basement where I have a big surprise for you, David.
38:21My friend David.
38:23This is for you.
38:24What?
38:27Oh, my God.
38:30Oh, my gosh.
38:31This is crazy.
38:34One of the big things was not having my own space.
38:36Now there's a space that I can call my own.
38:39I'm beyond floored.
38:41Like, best money ever spent, I would say.
38:44So much space down here.
38:45So much room for the bikes.
38:47Sit down.
38:47Make yourself at home.
38:48I need you to make sure that you love this space, David, so that you know it's yours.
38:52David's upstairs waiting for you, and he has some things to speak with you about, but we'll meet up later so that we can get your decision that should be with all this beautiful renovation to stay.
39:03I'm just saying.
39:04Hi, David.
39:09Hello.
39:10How are you doing, guys?
39:11Good.
39:12Welcome back to your house.
39:14Looks a little different than the last time I saw it.
39:16Just a little bit.
39:17Just a bit, right?
39:18Yeah.
39:18It looks incredible.
39:19Yeah.
39:19And most of the time I'm like, okay, here's what you've got here, then there's this other house, which makes the most sense.
39:26But to me, it's more than just about houses today, right?
39:29I think it's about two people considering a drastic lifestyle change.
39:33Mm-hmm.
39:33Agreed.
39:34One that's going to get you closer to downtown, closer to work, and closer to the things you guys love.
39:39Yeah.
39:39Absolutely.
39:39Four level, completely done, townhome on a quiet street.
39:44You know, I was surprised, actually, how quiet that area was.
39:48Got the main level, which is completely open concept.
39:51A great entertaining space, that main floor.
39:54A kitchen that was surprisingly big for a townhome.
39:57Mm-hmm.
39:57That walk-out basement is...
39:59Yeah, I think that basement and envisioning it as a training room with the bikes, like, absolutely perfect.
40:05It also had two outdoor spaces where you can barbecue and also entertain.
40:10And for your budget, it's not an easy find downtown.
40:14No.
40:14All right, so, let's talk money.
40:16The house was listed under budget.
40:18However, we all know that it's not going to sell under budget.
40:21It's probably going to go over asking, right?
40:23But not so much that this is not going to help a lot.
40:28Oh.
40:28That is now the value of your home with the renovation that has been done.
40:32That's a pleasant surprise.
40:34Very.
40:34The original value of the house was $950,000, with a rental budget of $127,000.
40:42The final evaluation is $1,175,000, with an increase overall of $225,000.
40:51That definitely puts it in a whole new context, for sure.
40:55It does.
40:55Like, knowing that that's what we can do.
40:59Like, is it too much of a change?
41:01It doesn't even feel like our house.
41:04Mm-hmm.
41:04It doesn't even feel like our house is not going to have a house anymore.
41:05David Vizantine.
41:07What a difference that this house is.
41:09Right?
41:10Oh, my gosh.
41:11Pretty amazing.
41:11Compared to what it was when we walked through it at the first time?
41:14I'm telling you.
41:15It was a disaster.
41:16Not anymore, though.
41:17Having a space that I can call my own is pretty incredible, but I still dread the drive downtown.
41:23The downtown factor for me is huge for them, given that everything that they love is downtown.
41:30And that's the only thing I'm really worried about.
41:33Despite all this back and forth, I think we know what we want to do, don't we?
41:37I think so.
41:38I agree.
41:41Okay.
41:43So, decision made?
41:46Decision made.
41:47Are you going to love it?
41:48Or are you going to list it?
41:51We are going to...
41:54Love it.
41:55What a great decision.
42:00Yeah.
42:01Seriously?
42:01Yeah, I know.
42:02It was really, like, it honestly was really, really tough.
42:06You both made it tough for obviously different reasons, but it just, like, looking at this transformation
42:11and suddenly feeling like this could be my space for the first time ever in this house.
42:19Wow.
42:19I think that's what really tipped it over the edge for me.
42:22Yeah.
42:22Yeah.
42:23Well, awesome.
42:24It's a fantastic renovation.
42:26Thank you, David.
42:27You're welcome.
42:28Sorry, what was that?
42:30Thank you, thank you.
42:31And before that?
42:32I don't know.
42:32Fantastic renovation?
42:34Thank you, guys.
42:35Congratulations.
42:36Great decision.
42:38No, thank you, Paige.
42:39Best ever.