Love It or List It Season 20 Episode 2
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00:00That is like absolutely necessary, otherwise I'm already out the door.
00:04I have to convince Brian to move.
00:06What do you mean open concept? You can't see anywhere.
00:08The backyard.
00:09I don't see a pool.
00:11It's because there isn't one.
00:12We are never going to be getting this in our house.
00:14I have to convince Katrina to stay.
00:16Our max is $1.75, not a penny more.
00:20I know you wanted to save these stairs.
00:22Well, it's not going to happen.
00:23Whoa.
00:24Oh, yes.
00:25This is exactly what we need, a huge island.
00:28Oh, my gosh. Brian.
00:30That is the dream.
00:31Wow.
00:32Oh, my gosh. Look at that.
00:35I know it was a tough one, but are you going to love it or are you going to list it?
00:46Up and in.
00:48Nice.
00:49I'm Brian.
00:49And I'm Katrina, and we're the owners of a three-bedroom detached home.
00:54Welcome to our...
00:57Beautiful.
00:58...dysfunctional house.
00:59Brian and I met through friends.
01:02We fell in love, and then eventually Brian moved into this house with me and my kids.
01:07Oh, yeah.
01:08The layout of this house is so dysfunctional and really doesn't work for our family at all.
01:13Like, it's never-ending stairs, so you're either walking up a few steps or down a few steps, room to room.
01:20Everywhere you go, there's steps.
01:21On the other hand, you're getting a bit of a workout in every day.
01:24It's nice.
01:25This house has tiny, tiny closed-off rooms.
01:30The fireplace takes up half the room in the living room.
01:33The kitchen, you can't even move, and it's so small.
01:36At least we've got a kitchen table.
01:37Which we can't even all fit around.
01:39It's so tight.
01:40But not all things are bad in here.
01:42Look at the windows.
01:43Look at the backyard oasis.
01:45It's nice.
01:45The only nice thing in the house is the backyard.
01:49Yeah.
01:49That's a problem.
01:51It is beyond help.
01:52It's really time for us to go.
01:54Four years I've been staring at this.
01:56Why hasn't it been done?
01:58I'm carpenter by trade, but I've been being a site super, and I just do not have the time to be able to put the effort into getting all this reno done of this house.
02:10There's always an excuse.
02:11If you're not going to do it, it's time to go.
02:17What do you think?
02:18Really nice out here.
02:20I love this neighborhood.
02:21North of the city, so prices are down.
02:23You get a bigger house, bigger lot.
02:25Traditional brick.
02:26After you.
02:27Thank you, thank you.
02:29Oh, okay, a nice foyer.
02:31You say foyer or foyer?
02:32I say foyer.
02:34I do too.
02:35This is going to be one of...
02:37It's a split?
02:38I have a feeling this is going to be one of those 80s designs.
02:41That should never have been designed.
02:42Look, what is the point of those stairs?
02:44It's because they give the illusion of a bigger floor plan because you have to go up three or four stairs.
02:49That's okay.
02:50Nice, big, formal living room.
02:53I like it.
02:54All right, so a little...
02:55What is that?
02:58Wait a minute.
02:59So this must be the formal dining room.
03:01Yep.
03:02This is their pass-through.
03:03I've never seen this.
03:05No.
03:05You've gotten taller since the last time I saw you.
03:07They went design crazy.
03:08I feel like I'm on, like, the Titanic.
03:10Jack!
03:11Rose!
03:12What?
03:12Jack and Rose from the Titanic.
03:14You don't know this scene?
03:15I do.
03:16I do.
03:16I do like the size of this room.
03:19We have space, and that helps me.
03:22All right, so I guess we are going this way since you've already gone to the one and a half level.
03:28But look, it's a nice formal dining room.
03:30It's not bad.
03:31It's not bad.
03:32A ton of different floors.
03:34I can just see so much up and down and around the corners.
03:37I feel like I'm on...
03:38It's a wild ride.
03:39And look at all the unfinished stuff.
03:40Looks like an unfinished project.
03:42I feel like they started to open it up, or maybe they were going to close it up.
03:46Well, he's a carpenter, right?
03:47Yes.
03:48Oh, that is an eyesore.
03:50So it looks like they were, you know, building this area to fit these, and then they stopped.
03:56Oh, really?
03:56You're going to have to create something different.
03:58Oh!
03:59Oh!
04:00It's a spare shower, I guess.
04:02So is this a bedroom?
04:03Nope.
04:04Oh.
04:05This is a funky house.
04:08Family room, wood-burning fireplace.
04:10It's awkward.
04:10I mean, the wall's awkward.
04:11But I finally see something I like.
04:13What's that?
04:14The pool.
04:14Oh!
04:15See, that might make you stay in this crazy house.
04:17That might.
04:18Is that pool.
04:19The pool looks pretty from here.
04:21So let's go back up more stairs.
04:23But then, hold on.
04:24I think I've just passed one, two, three, four, five different flooring.
04:30Oh, so this is the kitchen, huh?
04:33Oh, whoa.
04:35They put a table in here, but this is clearly not an eat-in kitchen.
04:38Well, what it could have been is a round table.
04:40It would have complimented the room more.
04:41Well, this is claustrophobic for me.
04:45It's the design, because the square footage is here.
04:47It's 2,200 square feet.
04:48Yeah, the problem is, it's impossible to make it much better, given the levels, because
04:52you can't level this sucker out.
04:54They just over-design.
04:56They try to put everything you would need in a bigger kitchen in here, which is problematic.
05:01But I would have just rather a round table right here.
05:03That's what bothers me most.
05:04It's not going to help, Paige.
05:06It's not going to make any difference.
05:07It would help in here.
05:09What do you think it's going to make this?
05:09Soft edges always make everything work.
05:12Soft edges make everything work better.
05:14Well, that makes your job pretty easy, then.
05:16All you have to do is put a round table in here.
05:18David, you're very barky today.
05:20I'm just...
05:21This house is making me barky.
05:23Okay, well, let's go woof-woof over here.
05:26Well, at least you don't have to go back downstairs to go upstairs, but we do have to go back downstairs
05:29to go downstairs to the basement.
05:31Well, let's go to the basement.
05:32Is it around this corner?
05:33Yes.
05:34Okay, basement.
05:36Oh.
05:36Look at those stairs.
05:37Oh, my gosh.
05:38Is that what...
05:39Is this like...
05:39A one-finger railing?
05:40A one-finger railing?
05:41Isn't that a shocker?
05:43Oh, my goodness.
05:43Oh, full-on kitchen down here.
05:45This is a lot.
05:47What is...
05:47Is this a bean?
05:48That is what's holding up all these levels.
05:50Can you do pull-ups?
05:51I got a suit on, otherwise I would do it.
05:53Let's see.
05:53Can I do it?
05:57Not today.
05:57All right.
05:58This is overwhelming.
05:59But who is this for?
06:01Nice little office here, though.
06:02It's very organized, which I love, and it's very cute.
06:04All right.
06:05Let's go see the rest of this maze.
06:07This is a lot.
06:08Marshall's a little trip hazard.
06:10Getting our steps in, Paige.
06:12We are getting our steps in.
06:13Our steps in.
06:14Bedroom number one.
06:15Good storage.
06:17Another positive thing.
06:18Nice closet.
06:18Good natural light.
06:19I'm feeling good in here.
06:21So hall bath.
06:22Oh, they've updated it.
06:23I mean, double sinks for the kids.
06:25That's good.
06:25It's nice in here.
06:26Yep.
06:26All right.
06:27Oh, the main.
06:29Yes.
06:30Oh, look at how big this is.
06:32This is great.
06:33Okay, more stairs.
06:34That'd be number eight.
06:35I have never seen so many stairs and trip hazards in one house.
06:39This is crazy.
06:41But, again, we have space.
06:43All right.
06:45So let's go up.
06:46The final stairs.
06:47Our third bedroom.
06:48Smaller.
06:48Yes, it's too small.
06:50Why, you can't grow into this, Paige.
06:51If you put a double in here, almost none of this stuff can be here.
06:55Sometimes you have to stop figuring, and you just go with it.
06:57And I'm looking for everything I can do to help them.
07:00And I see things.
07:01There's too much to see.
07:02That's the problem with this house.
07:03There's way too much to see.
07:06I do like this balcony, though.
07:07How do you fix a problem that is this house?
07:10You know, I think that's the fun in it.
07:12I have enough house to figure out how to solve the problem.
07:15This is what's going to be hard for you, David.
07:16This is a big house.
07:17I could throw a dart without looking and find a house that makes more sense than this.
07:22Let's get out of here.
07:23I like your confidence.
07:24Okay.
07:26Huh.
07:26A little challenge.
07:28I still don't exactly comprehend what I just saw.
07:31I love a challenge, and this house is going to give it to me.
07:34I should probably be concerned about something at this point, but I'm not.
07:39And that may come when they give me their budget and their wish list.
07:42Now, if Katrina and Brian really want this house to work, there has to be a big change.
07:48But can I deliver?
07:50Time will tell.
07:51Well, thank you guys for coming to my wonderful office.
07:59Yeah.
07:59Awesome.
07:59It's a pleasure to see you guys.
08:00Can we have a little conversation about the craziness that is their house?
08:04We need to.
08:05It's not that crazy.
08:06It's a problem.
08:07I think I was motion sickness after I had one of those.
08:09Who uses the shower on the main floor?
08:11What exactly is that bathroom for?
08:14No one but the dog.
08:15It's your doggy shower?
08:16Wow.
08:17Yep, it is.
08:18We do not need that main floor shower.
08:20I'm also curious why you have a kitchen in your basement.
08:22We did have renters in before.
08:24We had tenants.
08:25Let's just back up a little bit.
08:26So you moved in the house first.
08:28Yes.
08:29Brian, you came along.
08:30This is your business.
08:31You're in construction.
08:32I am crazy busy with work.
08:34I'm working night, day.
08:35It's just too much.
08:36And you also have to care.
08:38Brian could live in a shoebox.
08:42I care.
08:42I just don't think that you see how much is involved.
08:46Well, let's just jump right into that.
08:47Okay.
08:48For you to stay, Katrina, what does the design plan of your house have to look like?
08:52It needs to change drastically.
08:55Absolute, complete, open concept main floor.
08:58That is like an absolute must for me to stay.
09:02All new flooring throughout the entire home.
09:04The primary ensuite, it needs to be completely gutted and redone.
09:08And then there's the laundry room that Brian started.
09:12That needs to be completely finished and closed off.
09:15That is like absolutely necessary.
09:17Otherwise, I'm already out the door.
09:19And I can see all of it is really needed.
09:21Yeah, our family needs it.
09:22Yeah.
09:22And our guests.
09:24The whole neighborhood.
09:25Our neighbors.
09:26Everyone needs it.
09:27Okay.
09:28Okay.
09:29So how much do I have to work with to get all of this done?
09:32One hundred and fifty thousand.
09:35We said max 175.
09:36We might as well tell them max now so they know.
09:39If we're going to sink that much money into the house, David, I hope that you can get us
09:43back all of that money so that we can put it toward our dream home.
09:46So I've done an evaluation on your home and current value is nine hundred and fifty thousand
09:50dollars.
09:51Okay.
09:51That's around what we thought.
09:52And of course, once Paige does what she's going to do, obviously that's going to increase
09:56the value.
09:56Yes.
09:57Give you some more equity to work with in the new house.
10:00What new house?
10:00The new house.
10:01The dream house is going to find us.
10:03It is a dream, a pipe dream.
10:04With hopefully only two sets of stairs in it.
10:07So what's the must have list to get you out of that house?
10:09We need an open concept throughout the whole main floor.
10:12Four bedrooms.
10:13Three bathrooms.
10:14I definitely would need a two car garage like we have.
10:17And a pool.
10:18Well, yeah, yeah.
10:19I forgot about the pool.
10:20Yeah.
10:20That's the only good thing about our house.
10:22Yeah.
10:23I don't know how you can forget about it.
10:24That's what we need.
10:25Do you want to stay in your neighborhood?
10:26Why are you shaking your head yes?
10:28I'm talking to them.
10:28I'm coaching them.
10:29Oh, you're coaching them.
10:30We do need to because the kids need to go to their schools.
10:34All right.
10:35So let's talk money.
10:36What's the budget for the new house?
10:371.1 million.
10:39Okay.
10:39I feel good.
10:40So do I.
10:41You can do this.
10:41Absolutely I can.
10:42I know you can.
10:43So we'll be in touch.
10:44Yep.
10:44Okay.
10:45Thanks for coming.
10:45We can't wait.
10:46See you later, guys.
10:47Okay.
10:47See you later.
10:49You can't fix that amount of crazy in that house completely.
10:52I absolutely can't.
10:53They are going to be left with a little bit of crazy.
10:56I don't think so.
10:57No, I do.
10:58I still think my job's going to be easier than yours.
11:00Well, it will be because you don't have to get dirty.
11:02You don't have to take down walls.
11:03You don't have to do any of that.
11:04You just get, you can stay pretty and just open doors.
11:06Me?
11:07I got to get to work.
11:08That's the way I like it.
11:18Paige?
11:19Matt!
11:19How are you?
11:20Good.
11:21I see your eye caught something.
11:23So, I've been tasked to give the owners an open concept.
11:28We're going to knock down the walls, separating the living room, dining room, kitchen, and family
11:33room.
11:34And I want to drop the floor.
11:36By dropping the floor, this will now be all one level and completely open.
11:40In the kitchen, we're going to get rid of this window so I can do a whole run of cabinetry
11:44and countertop space.
11:45Big island with a sink and seating.
11:47And then these windows have to be lowered, but they'll be grander because they'll be taller.
11:51Okay.
11:52Now, watch your step.
11:53Let's go down into the family room.
11:54Oh.
11:54See, you don't even know which way to go.
11:55More stairs.
11:56More stairs.
11:57So, get rid of the fireplace.
11:59I can put a sectional in here and they can all just hang out and chill.
12:02Okay?
12:03Yeah.
12:03Now, for the laundry room, I definitely want to add a door so we can close it up.
12:07But the powder bath actually has a shower.
12:09It's pointless.
12:10Absolutely.
12:10So, this is what I want to do.
12:11Get rid of the shower, but I want to keep the plumbing so that I can add a sink and make
12:16this one big, grand laundry room with storage.
12:19And then close it in.
12:20Yeah, that works.
12:21Okay.
12:22More stairs.
12:23Are you tired yet?
12:24Get in there.
12:25One thing I plan to put in the budget is to replace the entire stairwell, but I'd rather
12:31not.
12:32I'd rather try to save at least that part.
12:34And just add on to it.
12:35That would really help me.
12:36So, let's just keep that time.
12:37Yeah, that might be something we can do.
12:39So, more stairs.
12:41Matt, check out this main bedroom.
12:43Look how big it is.
12:44Yeah, it's a good space.
12:44It looks so good.
12:45But there's another surprise.
12:47More stairs.
12:48Up to primary bathroom.
12:51Yes.
12:51This house will keep you fit.
12:53True story.
12:54This is awful.
12:55It's pretty rough in here.
12:57So, I want to gut the entire bathroom and level it.
12:59So, get rid of this step up.
13:01Add a nice modern tub and then another, but better, glass-enclosed shower.
13:06Vanity, new flooring.
13:08I really want to make it a beautiful, luxurious en suite fit.
13:12Yeah, I get that.
13:13Just go talk it out.
13:14All right.
13:14Listen, this is going to be my biggest project ever.
13:19I've never dropped an entire floor.
13:21Well, what budget do you have for this project?
13:23I have $175.
13:25No.
13:25There's no way.
13:26That I know.
13:27So, this is what I was thinking.
13:28For $175, I can drop the walls, give them an open concept, drop the floors, and really
13:33make it beautiful.
13:34Mm-hmm.
13:35But what's really going to make them stay in this house is being able to complete the
13:38upstairs bathroom.
13:39But this is what I would like to do.
13:40I'd like to get a second budget from you, which will allow me to complete the upstairs bathroom.
13:45Is that fair?
13:46That's fair.
13:47You'll thank me later.
13:47Oh, okay.
13:48I promise.
13:48Okay, let's go get to work.
13:51All right.
13:52So, this house is 30 minutes from Katrina and Brian.
13:54So, they're not going to love that, but they are going to love the fact that it's a beautiful
13:58house.
13:59It's four bedrooms, four bathrooms, semi-open concept main floor, finished basement, two-car
14:05garage, and that it's nice and level.
14:07So, less confusion, more functionality.
14:10It comes with a price, but for a first house, I think we're going to find out a lot.
14:14Gorgeous day, huh?
14:16Beautiful.
14:16Very nice.
14:17Perfect day to look at a great house.
14:18Yes.
14:19Come on.
14:20Let's have a look.
14:21After you.
14:22Oh, this is really nice.
14:24Look how gorgeous it is.
14:25And it's got nice hardwood.
14:26I know.
14:27It's not the open concept, though, that you were looking for.
14:30Well, we'll see.
14:30It's got some sight lines, but this house is done.
14:34There will be no projects for Brian.
14:36Well, that's good.
14:36All right.
14:37Dining area.
14:38I like that there's a lot of windows and light.
14:40Good so far.
14:41Right here, we have your main floor powder room.
14:44I mean, normally, I'm not into the country look, but this is really nice.
14:49I'm into whatever she likes.
14:52That's the right answer.
14:53That's nice and easy.
14:53Are you into finished laundry rooms like this?
14:56Oh, wow.
14:57There's storage.
14:58There's space.
14:59There's a sink.
15:00This is exactly what I was going to do at our place.
15:04Okay, the main area.
15:07The eat-in kitchen.
15:08Oh, this is nice.
15:10The only issues I see with the island is it's not waterfall, which I know you like, or the
15:15seating on the one side.
15:16Oh, yeah.
15:17But there's a lot of space.
15:18You've got seating for like 10 people over here.
15:20Yeah.
15:20No, no.
15:21I get it.
15:21And this is the sight lines you have into the family room.
15:25So it's not completely open, but it gives you a little more than what you currently have
15:29now.
15:29And it's also all on the same level.
15:31Yes.
15:32Exactly.
15:32Oh, I really like that.
15:33Yes.
15:34Yes.
15:34I think we all agree on the level.
15:37Family room, fireplace.
15:38This one kind of makes sense.
15:40Yeah, it doesn't take up half the room.
15:42Yes.
15:42Look at this sectional.
15:43Oh, yeah.
15:43No room.
15:44And you have room for a big TV.
15:45This is a nice room.
15:46I was looking at this pool, wondering if it's bigger than yours.
15:49Um, it's probably the same size.
15:51And you can see all the money they've put into this.
15:54I probably wouldn't leave here in the summer.
15:55I think that we're out the door here.
15:58I think we're getting pretty close.
15:59Well, I think we're getting a little ahead of ourselves.
16:02Didn't you just say recently, whatever she likes, you like?
16:04Yeah, but she's going to like what Paige does to our place, too.
16:08How do you feel about your basement?
16:09I don't feel like it's that great.
16:11Okay, let's go see this one.
16:12Okay.
16:13I like what I'm seeing so far.
16:14Yeah, this is amazing.
16:16It's all open.
16:17It's nice.
16:18This is move-in ready.
16:19Yeah.
16:19Brian, do you really want projects in your life?
16:21No, no, no.
16:21I don't want projects.
16:22Second floor.
16:23Let's go.
16:24So you got four bedrooms and two bathrooms up here.
16:26It's a good size.
16:27This one seems a little bit bigger.
16:29This would be the bathroom that the kids would use.
16:32It's perfect size for the kids.
16:33Yep.
16:34Okay, main bedroom.
16:34This is a nice size.
16:36It's not as big as ours, but it's a better layout.
16:39The bathroom, it's got the double sinks, it's got the tub, it's got a nice shower.
16:43Let's head downstairs and talk money.
16:45Yes.
16:46So now's the moment of truth.
16:49What do you think about this house overall?
16:50Yeah, it's nice.
16:51It's got everything that we want.
16:54It's just a location.
16:55That's the only thing.
16:56What do you think this house is listed at?
16:57I'm guessing 1.3 to 1.4 million?
17:02Hmm, 1.35.
17:05This house is listed at $1.3 million.
17:07A little bit above our budget.
17:08It is above your budget, but I mean, ultimately, you can move into this house and not have
17:12to lift a finger, right?
17:13Definitely worth thinking about.
17:14Won't have to lift a finger, but I'm going to have to work until I'm 85.
17:19Yeah.
17:19And I have been looking in your neighborhood.
17:20I have.
17:21There just isn't really anything there, especially finding one with a pool.
17:24We could put the pool in, but I think it would affect how much we could spend.
17:29Okay.
17:29You heard him say it.
17:30He's willing to put the pool in.
17:32I did.
17:33I did.
17:34All right.
17:34Well, look, I think we're pretty close.
17:36Let's see what we can find.
17:37I'll talk to you soon.
17:38Okay.
17:38Bye.
17:38Thanks.
17:40It may take a mansion and a yacht to impress Brian, but I think the key is Katrina.
17:46I impress her, and I did today, and she will push Brian out the door.
17:52I thought it was perfect for us.
17:53The location, a little bit far, but...
17:55It was nice.
17:56I got to give him that, especially for the first place.
17:58I almost feel like I'm going to have to find them something with a pool, because if I don't,
18:02all they're going to be thinking about, especially Brian, is what that's going to cost.
18:08Hey, Payne.
18:09How are you doing?
18:10Good to see you.
18:10Me too.
18:10I'm so excited to show you the new design plan.
18:13It's going to be amazing.
18:15Let's start in your laundry area.
18:18So you have this powder bathroom with a shower in it.
18:21We'll keep the powder apart, but get rid of the shower.
18:23Put the door up, and then we're done with the laundry area.
18:25Okay.
18:26Awesome.
18:26No one needs to see.
18:28At all.
18:28No dirty laundry, please.
18:30Now, upstairs with your main en suite, I want to level it.
18:34Make it into, like, a beautiful spa experience.
18:37Yes.
18:37Sounds good so far?
18:38Yeah.
18:38Amazing.
18:38Okay.
18:39Well, let's go upstairs.
18:42Now, you asked me for an open concept.
18:45Here's where it starts.
18:46This wall comes down.
18:47Circles are gone.
18:49Amazing.
18:49They're gone.
18:50This wall will come down.
18:52Awesome.
18:52Going into the kitchen.
18:53So this is where we really start to make some magic happen.
18:57We're going to just completely gut this kitchen.
18:59So we're going to have a big island with a sink and a dishwasher.
19:02With lots of storage.
19:04Lots of storage.
19:04Absolutely.
19:05This wall, though, I want to bust through that wall.
19:08I mean, the goal here is for complete open concept so that you can actually see your entire
19:13family at once.
19:14And that's what I need for you to say.
19:16Yes.
19:16It's definitely not the dream if it's not open concept.
19:20But there's only one way to do that.
19:21I'm going to drop the floors.
19:23Whoa.
19:24Ooh.
19:24I didn't even think that was possible.
19:26It's possible.
19:27So we all will be on one level.
19:30Wow.
19:31That's who you wanted.
19:31That is the dream.
19:32But I don't even want to hear what the price is going to be on that.
19:37I'll jump right to it.
19:38$225,000.
19:39No.
19:40There's no way.
19:42Our max is $175,000.
19:45Not a penny more.
19:46But the floors have to get lowered.
19:48And this has to be open concept.
19:51It will help the resale value of the house.
19:53So there's got to be a give then somewhere.
19:55I can drop the floors, give you an open concept for sure.
19:58Good.
19:59But this is what I cannot do for $175,000.
20:02I can't touch upstairs.
20:04I can't touch the ensuite.
20:06Like all of that is gone.
20:07Then it's not going to be our dream home.
20:09I can do the bathroom later.
20:11Which we know won't happen.
20:12It'll happen.
20:13You know what?
20:14Fine.
20:14If we're taking the bathroom off the list, just open everything up.
20:18And then it will be so much easier to sell.
20:20And then David is going to help us get a lot of money for our house and buy our dream home.
20:25Well, my goal is to keep you in the house.
20:27So I'm going to make it as beautiful as I can.
20:29I just can't touch upstairs.
20:31Okay.
20:32Work your magic.
20:33I got you.
20:34$175,000 it is?
20:35$175,000.
20:36$175,000.
20:37I'll get to work.
20:37Thanks.
20:38See you later.
20:39Bye.
20:39Bye.
20:39Bye.
20:47I'm so excited to see how everything's looking, Matt.
20:53Oh, yes.
20:54You can see literally how the floor will come down.
20:57The ceilings are going to be so tall.
20:59So what's that going to give us?
21:0010 feet?
21:00Just over 10.
21:01Just over 10 feet.
21:02Really, really good.
21:03That's a lot.
21:03It is a lot.
21:04I know how much work you're doing, Matt, and I appreciate it.
21:07I mean, you're working hard to let this baby breathe in here.
21:10I love it.
21:10So I know you wanted to save these stairs.
21:13I need to save these.
21:16Well, it's not going to happen.
21:18OK, why now?
21:19The engineer in the city don't really love our idea of adding on to this.
21:26They much prefer one solid stringer and a new set of stairs.
21:29I mean, what does that mean cost-wise?
21:31It's about $14,000 to $15,000 between the stairs and all the railings.
21:36Well, that takes up my entire contingency budget.
21:39So after we do this, I'm flatlined.
21:41All right, so I don't usually hit people up with a reality check this soon in the game.
21:51But what they ask me for is pretty much unattainable for their budget.
21:56But I do have a house.
21:57It's five minutes from theirs.
21:58It's got four bedrooms, four bathrooms.
22:00It's got an open concept main floor.
22:03It's got a decent backyard.
22:05And this neighborhood's incredible.
22:06Good morning.
22:07Good morning, David.
22:08So, five minutes from your house.
22:09Perfect.
22:10I've been searching your neighborhood, and there's not a lot for sale.
22:13OK, let's do it.
22:14Let's go.
22:16Which means I need an open mind, Brian.
22:17I will try.
22:19Let me know what you think.
22:20Oh.
22:21OK, nice tall ceiling.
22:23So you have your formal living room, dining room combination.
22:27I think the sight lines are pretty good from here.
22:29Oh, yeah.
22:29So nice and open.
22:31So you've got access to your two-car garage.
22:33Oh, that's good.
22:34A couple stairs, I see.
22:35Yes, I know.
22:37I know.
22:37I don't mind these step downs.
22:38It separates things a little bit.
22:40You've got your laundry room.
22:41Kind of nice to have a door on your laundry room, isn't it?
22:43Yes, it is.
22:44It is.
22:44Very nice.
22:45So let's go see the main area.
22:47OK.
22:47Which is nice and bright.
22:49I mean, you've got your eating kitchen, family room combinations with great sight lines,
22:54little center island here, double sinks.
22:57I mean, the kitchen's a little small here, but this is nice and big.
23:00I don't know if you'd like the dark cabinets.
23:02Yeah, that I'm not a fan of.
23:04Some work for me?
23:05No, we can send out the cabinets to be painted.
23:08My recommendation would be send it out as opposed to having Brian.
23:11I know you do good work.
23:12Yeah.
23:12It's the doing part that you have a slight problem with.
23:15Now, this is going to be a tough one.
23:18The backyard.
23:19I don't see a pool.
23:21It's because there isn't one.
23:22You know, if you wanted to put a pool in, you could.
23:24We could do it.
23:25If the price is right, for sure.
23:26Last morning seat.
23:27Here.
23:28So there are four bedrooms up here and three bathrooms.
23:32The rooms look like they're really good sizes.
23:34So the main bedroom.
23:35This is big.
23:36So you've got two walk-in closets, bathroom, double sinks, which is what you guys wanted.
23:41Lots of natural light.
23:43It's similar to what we have.
23:44This is a step up from our bedroom and our bathroom.
23:47For sure.
23:48Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
23:49Just admit it.
23:50Yep.
23:50All right, let's go see the basement.
23:52Okay.
23:53So I know that you've kept your mind open.
23:55Yep.
23:55I need you to open up just a little bit more.
23:57Uh-oh.
23:58All right, come on.
23:59Endless possibilities.
24:01Oh, they went with the painted floor look.
24:05Yeah, so lots of work here.
24:07But there's enough square footage on the other two levels with the things that you need that
24:11this can be sort of like one of those projects.
24:13Endless possibilities.
24:14Yes, and endless money.
24:16Let's talk about money.
24:17Yes.
24:18Upstairs, come on.
24:19Okay.
24:20Here's the moment.
24:21The moment where you tell me exactly how you feel.
24:24I really like the layout, so I think we could take on the work.
24:27Brian, what do you think this house is listed at?
24:301.1, maybe just a bit above.
24:32I think 1.15.
24:34This house is listed at a million dollars.
24:36Okay.
24:36So, comes in under budget.
24:38Yeah.
24:39So there's some money to play with.
24:41Mm-hmm.
24:41Depending on what we can get for our place.
24:43Yeah.
24:44We could definitely do all the work.
24:46And depending on what our place looks like.
24:48It's never going to have four bedrooms and look like this.
24:52Let's think about it.
24:53If we could expand the location a little bit, that would help out a lot to finding a house
25:00that needs less work than this and possibly has a pool.
25:04I think we should just look at whatever you think would make sense and go from there.
25:09Perfect.
25:10I love that scenario.
25:10Sounds good.
25:11Good job.
25:12There is a lot of work to do in this house.
25:14And although Brian has shown that he's capable of doing the work and Katrina might think he'll
25:19do the work, he's not likely to do it.
25:22There's a lot of good things about that house.
25:25I mean, the biggest good thing would be how close it is to where our other house is.
25:29Yeah.
25:30I mean, this location is great.
25:32There might be another reality check coming.
25:34And I'm okay with that.
25:35It's a long game.
25:36Hi, you guys.
25:43Well, I'm excited.
25:44I think it's going really well.
25:46Come in.
25:46Oh, wow.
25:47Check out your newly opened house.
25:49Yeah.
25:49Awesome.
25:50This is super exciting.
25:52Okay, good.
25:52And scary at the same time.
25:54It is.
25:55It is.
25:55But we're still on track.
25:56So I'm excited.
25:57Well, thanks for meeting with us because there's been a few things that we really need to have
26:00done.
26:01What's going on?
26:01So we know we gave up the shower in the bathroom just over here.
26:05Yep.
26:05But now we've been thinking about our dog.
26:08If we are going to stay, she gets muddy.
26:11She's a golden retriever.
26:12And we need a way to bathe her close to the door.
26:16So we're wondering if there's any way to have a little doggy bath.
26:19I think it wouldn't be too hard to make something work.
26:22You guys couldn't ask me before I ripped out your whole bathroom?
26:24It would really, really make a difference.
26:27Okay.
26:28Doggy shower.
26:29Question.
26:30Will there be an exchange of currency for this service?
26:34We're topped out.
26:35There's got to be a way to make it work.
26:37Yeah.
26:37Wow.
26:38So speaking of adding to the list, if we are going to stay, we are thinking that we might
26:44end up renting out the basement.
26:46Okay.
26:47And if we do rent out the basement, we are going to want a wall.
26:51So if somebody rented the house, they'd be able to come in.
26:54The door, it would have to be like a curved wall to match the upper floor, separating to
27:01the stairs, going downstairs.
27:03For clarity, curved wall.
27:04Yes.
27:05You have a separate entrance for potential tenants to go down to the basement.
27:09Yeah.
27:10Yeah.
27:10Well, here's my honest response.
27:12This staircase, the city said that I had to take this whole staircase out.
27:17I mean, that's where my cushion, my cushion's gone.
27:20So I would have been like, sure, no problem.
27:22I don't have any money left.
27:23I don't know.
27:23Well, I have full faith in you.
27:25Yeah.
27:25Like, we've seen a few places from David and she's starting to like.
27:28Yeah.
27:28And if we are going to stay, we have to make sure it's exactly what we need for the future.
27:32David card gets me every time, you guys.
27:35I cannot make any promises.
27:37I can't even make a half of a promise.
27:39But let me work on something.
27:41Okay.
27:41Perfect.
27:42Thanks.
27:42Thanks.
27:42Thank you, guys.
27:52Can I get in this house?
27:55Matt!
27:58What are you yelling about?
27:59I'm trying to get in the house.
28:00I couldn't get in the front door.
28:01There's a giant hole in here.
28:02You're not allowed in.
28:03It's not safe at all.
28:04Okay.
28:05Well, I have to talk to you.
28:06What's up?
28:07I met with Brian and Katrina.
28:09Yeah.
28:09And they've thrown two new projects at me.
28:11What they want me to do is add a wall for a separate entrance for the basement so they
28:16can run out.
28:17Okay.
28:17That's minor.
28:18But the shower that I was taking out, they want me to keep it as a doggy shower.
28:25Not so minor.
28:25So, exactly.
28:26Because we have no money left.
28:27So, I'm thinking.
28:28These windows, I'm glad are still here.
28:30Yeah.
28:30They're coming out soon, though.
28:31I want to lower them, reuse them, and then just add transom windows.
28:36Because I have the new windows that we're going to do floor-to-ceiling on order, but
28:40if I can cancel that, then I can save a ton of money.
28:42So, bring these ones down.
28:44Yep.
28:44And then just do a fixed paint across the top.
28:45Yes.
28:46We still get great light in.
28:48That's a great idea.
28:48And I'm saving the money that I need to add in the doggy shower in the wall.
28:52They're basically new, so there's no point in tossing them.
28:54Right.
28:54That's good, right?
28:55Yeah.
28:55All right, good.
28:56I'm going to get inside this house.
28:57In a couple days, maybe.
28:58A couple days.
28:59And there's no giant hole in there.
29:00I'm excited.
29:00I want to see it.
29:02You can see it when it's done.
29:03All right, Matt.
29:03All right.
29:04Okay, thank you.
29:05Nope.
29:05Matt and the team continue with dropping the floors.
29:08The new staircase is going in, and we're upgrading the walls with spray foam insulation.
29:18I have got an incredible house for Katrina and Brian.
29:21The house is done from top to bottom.
29:23Brian will not have to lift a finger or a hammer to do anything to fix anything.
29:28So, Katrina will be happy about that.
29:30It's got four bedrooms, four bathrooms, beautiful open concept main floor, beautiful finished
29:36basement, something I know is not getting touched in their house.
29:39And the price?
29:40Price is pretty good.
29:41I think they should be happy with it.
29:43How are you?
29:43Isn't it beautiful out?
29:44The colors and everything?
29:45Yes.
29:45Now, we are about 10 minutes from your house.
29:47Great neighborhood, though.
29:48And it's got a house that I think you're going to love and doesn't need any work.
29:52Perfect.
29:53Even better.
29:53Nice entrance.
29:56Okay.
29:56Nice.
29:57Every level is level, Brian.
29:59Yeah, I like it.
30:00And there's a nice door on the laundry room.
30:03Oh, yeah.
30:04Yeah, that's good.
30:04That's nice.
30:05So, you've got your office area and your formal dining room area.
30:09Perfect.
30:09We can have lots of people in here.
30:11So far, so good.
30:12Good?
30:13Yeah.
30:13Then it keeps saying it.
30:14Yeah.
30:14As you walk in and see your eat-in kitchen family room combination.
30:18Wow, this is bright.
30:19Oh, this is exactly what we need, a huge island.
30:22Great for entertaining.
30:23All up to date, all soft clothes.
30:26This is going to be perfect.
30:27It's huge and it's open.
30:28I think we can fit lots of people in here.
30:30This might be a winner.
30:32Yeah, it'll be almost as good as the kitchen that Paige is doing for us.
30:36Listen, you're going to get, listen, no doubt, it's going to be incredible, your main floor.
30:40And it has the feature in the backyard that you want.
30:44And it's got the hot tub you want.
30:46The hot tub that I need.
30:47Relax my muscles.
30:48You need the hot tub.
30:50Come home from a hard day's work.
30:51I mean, it's nice to be able to jump in there.
30:53Nice and private.
30:54Looks good?
30:55Looks amazing.
30:56Now, am I correct in saying that nothing is happening to your second floor?
31:02No, huge disappointment, so.
31:05Have a look at this.
31:06Cute house.
31:07This is good.
31:08You've got a beautiful big bedroom.
31:09You've got these incredible windows.
31:11Love the light.
31:12And you've got like a dream bathroom.
31:14Oh yeah, see, we're never going to be getting this in our house.
31:17You've got double sinks.
31:19Yeah.
31:19Look at that tub.
31:20Look at that shower for you, Brian.
31:22Yeah, no, I like it.
31:23This is ready to move to.
31:25Yeah, and it's something that I would maybe consider.
31:29And we still have a lot more to see too.
31:31Come on.
31:31Yeah.
31:32Four bedrooms up here.
31:33I don't think they'd be complaining about these rooms.
31:35Nope.
31:36Yeah.
31:36And this would be the bathroom that they would share.
31:39Oh, this is pretty big.
31:40The kids would be really happy to move here.
31:42Really awesome.
31:43I think you're convincing him.
31:44I think so.
31:45Well, I guess it depends on the price.
31:48Yeah, we haven't seen the basement yet.
31:50Well, hey, sorry to tell you, Brian.
31:53Yeah, it's finished.
31:53But it's finished.
31:55This is the workout run.
31:56Oh my gosh.
31:57Brian, a whole room for our treadmill and other stuff.
32:01You've got this cool little rec space.
32:04Look, you can have all your friends over, watch sports.
32:07And you have this.
32:09Oh.
32:10Oh my God.
32:10Shower and everything.
32:12Really, what it comes down to is the money.
32:14Well, let's go find out.
32:15Let's find out.
32:17All right.
32:17How do you feel about this house overall, Brian?
32:20There's nothing I can complain about.
32:22And you know I like to complain a little bit.
32:23I do.
32:24I do know that.
32:25What do you think this house is listed at?
32:26Probably 1.2.
32:27I think 1.3.
32:29This house is listed at $1,150,000.
32:32So, a touch above budget.
32:34However, I do believe with the work that's being done on your main floor, it's going to
32:39have a huge impact on your house.
32:41Yeah, if we're on par or very close, then we've got major decisions to make.
32:47Decisions that I didn't think we'd be making.
32:50All right, guys.
32:51Yeah.
32:52Okay, thanks.
32:52It's been a pleasure.
32:54We'll talk to you soon.
32:55I only have one little concern, and that is it's not in their neighborhood and how that
33:01might come into play.
33:04I think David's convinced you.
33:05Yeah, I agree.
33:06This has everything.
33:07So, if I can make the numbers work, and I think I can, they might be swimming in a different
33:15pool next summer.
33:18Seeing the home start to come together is the best part of the process for me.
33:21The kitchen window we covered up gets re-bricked, and the ones I managed to save are being re-installed
33:28in their lower frames.
33:29The main floor in this house is going to be incredible.
33:33I just hope it's enough to make Katrina love it.
33:40Hi.
33:41Wow.
33:43I love this couch.
33:45Oh, this might be good for the living room.
33:48Nice neutral color.
33:49Yep, this is it.
33:52All right.
33:53This is cute.
33:55Let me see how it feels.
33:57Oh, this feels good.
33:58It's comfortable.
33:59It's big enough.
34:00I like this one.
34:02Oh, excuse me.
34:03Hello.
34:04I'm Rosemary.
34:05Hi, Rosemary.
34:05I'm Paige.
34:06I'm relaxing on your beautiful sectional.
34:08Great.
34:09What I need next is a dining room table.
34:12Okay.
34:12I need it to be able to expand.
34:15The clients that I have, they host a lot of their family.
34:19But this is my challenge.
34:20I don't want them to have to take the leaves all the way down to their basement.
34:23We have great options for you.
34:25Yay.
34:25Right this way.
34:26Options.
34:27Oh, good.
34:28Okay, so this table is in the extended position right now.
34:31But look at this.
34:32Oh, hot.
34:34Well, that was surprising.
34:35No way.
34:36Okay, now this is new.
34:37Like, I stay ahead of the curve on a lot, but I've never seen this.
34:40But for this particular house, I don't think the marble will go with my design.
34:44Okay.
34:45We have a wood option over here.
34:47Okay.
34:47Comes in walnut and oak.
34:49Okay.
34:49Versions.
34:50And we have lovely leaves here.
34:52Oh.
34:54That was so easy.
34:56Yeah.
34:56So this is probably almost a 12-person table.
34:59I think it's perfect.
35:01I love how neutral the walnut is, but it has so many different waves.
35:06I think this is it then.
35:08Right.
35:08Let's right this way.
35:09Rosemary.
35:09This is so easy.
35:10I'm so excited in here.
35:15The final elements of the kitchen are coming together.
35:18This is going to be my biggest transformation yet.
35:38Hi.
35:39Hi.
35:40Hi, Katrina.
35:41Welcome home.
35:42Hey.
35:42We're excited.
35:43Wow.
35:44Hey.
35:44Oh.
35:48And it's open.
35:49Yeah.
35:50Oh, my God.
35:51This is not the same house.
35:53It's not.
35:55This is still your same living room.
35:57Yeah.
35:57Right?
35:58It's the same size, but it looks bigger.
36:00Well, it probably looks bigger, because when you look this way, we're missing a wall.
36:04It's a big, big change.
36:06I love it.
36:08You can just walk right in now.
36:09You can just walk right in.
36:10Well, you did it.
36:16We were able to save money and still add in a ton of light, because we kept your original
36:21windows.
36:22We just lowered everything.
36:24Oh, yeah.
36:24Look at how high the ceiling is.
36:25Yeah.
36:25And we added the transom windows up top to give even more natural light.
36:29Yeah.
36:29Yeah.
36:29That's good.
36:31This is a moment, you guys.
36:33This is a wow moment.
36:34It's incredible.
36:35So you have six burners, a pot filler.
36:39That's what I wanted.
36:40Custom hood vent.
36:42Yeah.
36:42It's amazing.
36:43When I first walked in your kitchen, it was like a small box right there.
36:48Yeah.
36:49Look at all of this storage now.
36:50I know.
36:51It's even got a ladder, it looks like.
36:53Kids are going to love it, too.
36:53Oh, yeah.
36:54They're going to love that.
36:58Let's just get into this island moment.
37:00Yeah, that's a nice, big island.
37:02And it extends right into your dining room.
37:04I've dreamt of an island like this my whole life, for sure.
37:10Oh, really?
37:12Yeah.
37:12No, I like to have everybody sit and, like, be able to show.
37:15I can't wait for you to start cooking.
37:18It's going to be so good.
37:20We don't have to lie, Katrina.
37:22We all know that I cook.
37:25It's so nice to actually be standing here and be able to see right to the front of the house.
37:29You can see everywhere.
37:31Yeah.
37:31Everywhere.
37:32Let's go over to your den.
37:33Let's step down.
37:35Oh, yeah.
37:35We're going to step into your den.
37:37It's so strange not having to step down.
37:40And look.
37:40It's not open.
37:41It's so much bigger with that fireplace.
37:44And the entryway is now gone.
37:46This actually makes so much sense.
37:49So, like, every...
37:50This is going to be great.
37:51The kids can watch TV.
37:52I mean, I'd love to say while they're cooking with me.
37:54But at least...
37:55I can.
37:56Thank you for watching, Mark.
37:57Yeah.
37:58Well, let's keep going.
37:59There's a few more surprises around the corner, including your brand new stairs.
38:03Oh, my gosh.
38:04Look at that.
38:05I love that staircase.
38:07Oh, it's gorgeous.
38:07Yeah.
38:08Look at this floor.
38:10Wow.
38:10Brian, you asked me to curve a wall for you.
38:14Yes, I did.
38:14Oh, yeah.
38:15I liked that it's curved, actually.
38:17This is another focal point in your home.
38:20Yeah, it's a showpiece wall.
38:21Okay.
38:22Wow.
38:22Well, let's go see what's inside.
38:26Welcome to your new laundry room.
38:28Oh, my gosh.
38:29I'm not going to hate doing laundry anymore.
38:31Wow.
38:32Wow.
38:32I love the color.
38:33Good.
38:34So nice.
38:34And your puppy bath.
38:37And it's all stone.
38:38Oh, yes.
38:39Wow.
38:39For sure.
38:42Look at all of the storage, all the way up to here on the side as well.
38:47I'm in love with your powder.
38:49Oh, yeah.
38:50So am I.
38:52Oh, my gosh.
38:54Look at this.
38:54That tile is amazing.
38:56Love it.
38:56Okay.
38:58Well, back to almost where we started.
39:01Mm-hmm.
39:02I hope that I have done you well, Katrina.
39:05Yes.
39:05Brian, I hope you're happy.
39:07I love it.
39:07Now, my good friend and colleague and competitor, David, is around in your kitchen waiting for
39:12you.
39:13And we will catch up in a little bit.
39:15Okay.
39:15Thanks.
39:15All right.
39:16Okay, Katrina.
39:17Thanks so much.
39:18Okay, Brian.
39:18Yeah, it's incredible.
39:19My guy.
39:20Yeah.
39:20Okay.
39:21Welcome back to your house.
39:23Holy transformations.
39:24Oh, yeah.
39:24It's a totally different house.
39:26And if the other two floors in this house had had the same attention as this one did, you would
39:30have near perfection.
39:32The good news is, 10 minutes from here is a home with three floors of perfection.
39:38That was an awesome house.
39:40It was a nice house.
39:41Nice spacious entry, mudroom, laundry room.
39:44Like, an incredible main floor like this, right?
39:46And that incredible eat-in kitchen family room combination with basically wall-to-wall
39:51windows.
39:52It was big and open.
39:54That hot tub blew you away.
39:56Yeah.
39:56Any hot tub blew me away, but yeah.
39:59The second floor, completely level.
40:02No ups, no downs, no stairs.
40:05Yeah.
40:05Just everything you need.
40:07And an incredible primary bedroom.
40:09Oh, yeah, that bathroom was nice and done.
40:12Great bathtub, great shower for you.
40:15Yes.
40:15That basement was incredible.
40:16It was.
40:17I mean, the rec space with the TV, the bar area.
40:20The honey-do list is that long.
40:23That might be the best.
40:24In that house.
40:24Yes, it is.
40:25That's for sure.
40:26In this house, there's still work to be done.
40:29I know for you, Katrina, that's a big deal.
40:31Now, financially, the house was $50,000 over budget.
40:37However, with all the work that was done here, that is now the current value of your
40:43house.
40:44So the done house is affordable, right?
40:46Oh, yeah.
40:47Yeah, it's affordable.
40:48So, you guys talk about it.
40:49Okay.
40:50Yes, thanks.
40:50The pre-rental value of the house was $950,000.
40:54With a budget of $175,000, the new value is $1,250,000, which is an increase in value
41:03of $300,000.
41:05So, we have one of those big life decisions to make here.
41:10I know.
41:11That actually makes the other house...
41:13Affordable, yeah.
41:15Yeah, it's possible now.
41:16Like, there's not one thing in that house that would need to be done.
41:19This is actually an incredible transformation, this main floor.
41:22Like, it's mind-boggling.
41:24It is.
41:24I just wish you had a couple hundred thousand more and you could do the second floor and
41:27the bottom floor.
41:28Then I think you'd have, like, a house I would want to buy.
41:31There's a lot of work that needs to be done.
41:33In our bathroom, like, that's a huge job that still needs to happen.
41:37The only shot I think you have is the fact that it's not in this neighborhood, that it's
41:4210 minutes from here.
41:43Okay.
41:44Okay, let's go talk to them.
41:45Perfect.
41:48Hi.
41:49Hello.
41:50Hello.
41:51Okay, so, decision made.
41:54Yep.
41:55Yeah, we have a decision.
41:56We have a decision.
41:57Well, I know it was a tough one for sure.
41:59Yep.
42:00But you have to tell us now.
42:01Are you going to love it or are you going to list it?
42:06Well, we're going to love it.
42:12Really?
42:13Paige blew us away and Brian has promised that he's going to finish what hasn't been done.
42:19Okay.
42:21Thank you both so, so, so, so much.
42:23Okay?
42:23I'll look out for your call.
42:25Yeah.
42:25Let's go.
42:26Oh, I guess I got to go now.
42:27Okay.
42:28Thanks.
42:28Oh, I'm feeling like a winner.
42:33I predict I get a call.
42:36There's going to be a call made.
42:37Mm-hmm.
42:38And Katrina's going to be like, David, you know what?
42:40That stuff's not getting done.
42:41Okay.