Law & Order UK Season 7 Episode 1 Tracks
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00:00Prosecute the offenders. These are their stories.
00:15Has that his plane landed yet?
00:18Er...
00:20Not yet.
00:22Is he staying for long?
00:24For a bit.
00:26I wish he could stay forever.
00:28Me too, sweetie. Me too.
00:32Max, I'm so sorry. Be careful with that. Pick it up.
00:35I'm sorry.
00:58I might have to put them in there.
00:59I'm sorry.
01:00Can I have a tonnes of water?
01:01Oh my goodness.
01:02Oh my god.
01:03Oh.
01:04Oh, oh.
01:07Oh my god.
01:09Hey.
01:10Hey we're walking music.
01:13No stairs sections.
01:14Go, I can.
01:15To go.
01:17Sorry.
01:18All right.
01:48Hello?
01:57Boys, boys!
01:59Over here, okay?
02:05Come here.
02:07Can you keep looking at me, yeah? Just keep looking at me.
02:10I need a paramedic. I need a paramedic now.
02:15Can you, uh...
02:18Can you tell me your name?
02:20Max.
02:22Max.
02:24Max, I'm sad.
02:26All right? Keep your eyes open.
02:28Keep your eyes open.
02:30Doctor's on his way, okay?
02:32Not my mummy.
02:34I'm on my, I know.
02:36I promise you, as soon as I can,
02:38I'm gonna go and find your mum.
02:40Just keep looking at me, all right, mate?
02:42Max.
02:44I need a paramedic.
02:48I need a paramedic now!
02:50Now!
02:52Max.
02:54Max.
02:55Max.
02:56Max.
02:57Come on, mate.
03:02Come on, mate.
03:04Come on.
03:06Come on, mate.
03:07Come on.
03:08Come on.
03:12Okay.
03:13I love you.
03:27Again.
03:28It is carnage out there.
03:30We've got hundreds injured, twelve dead.
03:35This is solid.
03:36Thirteen dead.
03:38Thirteen dead.
04:06TREE.
04:08I totally know.
04:10aley's Amplified.
04:12No.
04:15We've got two guys perhaps.
04:16I'm dead!
04:17Here.
04:18I have a Evans, man!
04:19Where's the crowd going?
04:20How many more dicks?
04:21Wow!
04:22How many more dicks around the stage?
04:24How many more dicks around?
04:25Let's get theIdená»—i!
04:26ThePub saturate.
04:27TheMerryD even has installed.
04:29Are we ready?
04:30That's great.
04:31Zç‡.
04:32Ohhh!
04:33This.
04:34Matt.
04:35Hello, hello, hello.
04:53Look at you, Detective Inspector Leighton.
04:57Told you I was covering for the Gov.
04:59How are you doing, Wes?
05:00I'm doing all right. How are you, Ron?
05:02I'm very well.
05:02Shouldn't you be chasing poachers around Dartmoor?
05:05MIT couldn't do without me.
05:07All right.
05:07What have we got, sir?
05:09All right, well, this is a county-trained commuter.
05:13It's the 5.15 from Portsmouth Harbour.
05:15Gets into Waterloo about seven.
05:17Absolutely packed to the rafters.
05:19I take it that driver's a goner.
05:20Strangely enough, it wasn't even inside.
05:23Yeah?
05:24Yeah.
05:25Response ran the plates, PNC them, definitely a ringer.
05:28So, and it has over 100 speeding tickets dating back six months.
05:35How did it get the car on the tracks?
05:36Well, whoever was driving it crashed through an access gate about half a mile back.
05:43Tell me it's got CCTV on it.
05:45Yeah, well, rail company will be sending it over as soon as they collate it themselves, sir.
05:50All right.
05:50Well, you know the drill, Ron.
05:51I need all the passengers' ID'd and interviewed.
05:54Already up, man.
05:56Your partner, Godwibble, has he?
05:58He looks a bit...
06:01There was a young boy on the train.
06:03Whereas he tried to save him, couldn't.
06:05All right.
06:06Well, make sure he attends debrief and get some counsellor.
06:09Absolutely, yeah.
06:10Oh, tight down the red line after shift.
06:12Oh, right.
06:13Hang on, hang on.
06:14Uh, double whiskey, chase, no ice.
06:16And a packet of dry and roasted, eh?
06:18That's out of a memory.
06:19Not to catch up on, sir.
06:21Yeah.
06:22All in you know, Wes.
06:25It was just, uh, on the tracks.
06:28No signals, no warning?
06:30Nothing.
06:31I slammed on the brakes a second.
06:33I saw it, but it was too late.
06:35I must have pushed it half a mile at least.
06:39I thought I was never going to see my kids again.
06:45Well, you will, Mr. King.
06:46Don't worry.
06:47We'll get you warm.
06:48Get yourself a cup of tea.
06:49I'm going to need a statement from you when you're up to it, OK?
06:52Um, Dave, do me a favour.
06:54Take care of Mr. King for me.
06:56All right?
06:56Cheers.
06:58Um, right.
07:01False plates.
07:04Restricted area.
07:04This is no accident, is it?
07:06You have to know about the gate and, uh,
07:08timetable.
07:10Yeah, so what are you saying?
07:12This gruntled employee or what?
07:14What do you mean?
07:14There's other jobs that suck.
07:16Yeah.
07:17All right, Pete, what have you got?
07:19Not much, I'm afraid.
07:21But when we get this back to base,
07:23we can cut it open, find the bin,
07:24and see if he's left anything else inside.
07:26There's 13 dead bodies in that tent,
07:28and you've...
07:29you've got nothing.
07:38Just drove right through them.
07:41Do we know who was minding the shop?
07:42Yeah, Hilton Security.
07:44They're the ones with a contract with county trains.
07:47Uniform were onto it,
07:48and they've got, um, lists of all their employees.
07:51And when he crashes through that gate,
07:53why doesn't it trigger the alarm?
07:55Well, it did,
07:55but by the time they radioed the train,
07:57it was just too late.
07:58Why?
07:59I mean, why the slow response?
08:01Well, it happened bang on shift change at Hilton, 6.30.
08:05But he crashed the gate at 6.30
08:07and collision with the train at 6.36?
08:10Yeah, he's cutting it fine,
08:11so how do you know when to time it?
08:14Maybe you were right before.
08:15This could be an employee of the rail company
08:17or the security firm.
08:19Some train spotter,
08:21or maybe he just did a bit of research beforehand.
08:23Thing is, you see,
08:24you can't tell losing that truck from this, can you?
08:27Yeah, that's because the security cameras
08:28are set up to catch trespassers
08:30climbing over the fence,
08:32not cars smashing straight through it.
08:34OK, now, what time has the site secured?
08:386.55.
08:39Oh, well, he had plenty of time
08:40to get on his toes then, didn't he?
08:42We've got CCTV footage
08:44checking through it now
08:45to see if he's escaped
08:46any further down the line.
08:50We've processed around 100.
08:52Another 120 to go.
08:55What about the ones that went to hospital?
08:57I got officers talking to them, too.
09:01So no-one saw anything suspicious?
09:03No-one on the train saw anything.
09:06One minute, they're cruising along
09:07like every other morning.
09:09The next...
09:11Well, look, if anything comes up,
09:13you'll just call us straight away, won't you?
09:15Excuse me.
09:16Hello, Brooks?
09:17We're up to 15 dead now.
09:2116, if you count unborn babies.
09:25Right.
09:26Well, that's great.
09:26Thanks, Pete.
09:29Socko, I found the VIN.
09:32Car belonged to Michael Janis.
09:36Janis?
09:36What's that name ring a bell?
09:38Janis put his wife in a coma.
09:40Permanent brain damage.
09:42He claimed self-defense.
09:44Hung jury.
09:45Three of them thought it reasonable
09:46he'd defend himself
09:47against a five-foot-two woman.
09:49Yeah, and aren't CPS retrying the case?
09:52Yeah, thanks to Alicia Phillips.
09:54She actually pushed for the retrial.
09:57She did an interview about the CPS
09:58having zero tolerance
10:00in cases of domestic violence
10:02and cited the Reid trial
10:03as an example.
10:05Guess which train she takes every morning.
10:08She wasn't on the train.
10:09Thankfully, no.
10:10She's been promoted.
10:11She's now senior prosecutor
10:12at CPS North West.
10:14But Janis wouldn't know that.
10:16Hmm.
10:16What else do we know about him?
10:18Financial advisor, self-employed.
10:20He beats the shit out of his previous wife.
10:22Only she gets scared,
10:23withdraws the statement.
10:25She emigrated to get away from him.
10:27What a catch.
10:28Get a warrant.
10:29Spin his address.
10:29If I knew what you were looking for, darling,
10:37maybe I could help you.
10:39Well, you can start by sitting down
10:42till we're ready to take you in, please.
10:43No, I'm not going to sit down.
10:44Why don't you just tell me what this is about?
10:47It's about the 15 people who died
10:49when your car caused a train crash this morning.
10:53What are you talking about?
10:55My car is outside,
10:57parked in its space where I normally...
10:59You have got to be kidding me.
11:03Well, obviously, it's been nicked.
11:06Obviously.
11:08Sarge.
11:13Hmm.
11:14Same train line.
11:19Planning a trip?
11:20What?
11:24Michael Jenis, I'm arresting you on the suspicion of 15 counts of murder.
11:28Doctor!
11:28You do not have to say anything, but it may help your defense.
11:31If you do not mention one question, something which you later align in court.
11:35I had a meeting booked in with a client down in Portsmouth.
11:38I was going to take the train.
11:40Okay.
11:41Can you provide us with the client's details?
11:43It was months ago.
11:45He cancelled.
11:47I must have just held on to the timetable.
11:49Look, this has nothing to do with me.
11:51My car was stolen.
11:53But you didn't report it's stolen?
11:55Well, I only found out this morning when you took my front door off, which you better
11:58be paying for, by the way.
12:00When was the last time you saw your vehicle?
12:02Last night, when I drove home.
12:04I parked it, and I went inside.
12:06How long have you been driving on false plates, Mr. Kenis?
12:14All right, yes, I hold my hands up.
12:19I am a speed freak.
12:21I'm playing on Jeremy Clark, then.
12:24Well, 103 speeding tickets have just caught up with you.
12:29All right.
12:32You, uh, you don't like playing by the rules, do you?
12:37Exceeding speeding limits and beating up women.
12:42I think I found the jury found me innocent.
12:46They couldn't decide, which is a bit different.
12:50But that was all about to change, wasn't it?
12:52I very much doubt it.
12:54Well, a new trial date set for next month must have made you angry.
12:58Do you know what I think you did?
13:00Oh, God, I've a feeling you're going to tell me.
13:02I think you drove your car onto those tracks,
13:05and you watched that train hit it, killing 15 people.
13:10What? Wow.
13:12What, is he on something?
13:13Because that's...
13:14You wanted Alicia Phillips dead.
13:18Alicia Phillips died in the crash?
13:20Right, well, every cloud, eh?
13:28No, she didn't.
13:30Shall I tell you who did?
13:32Oh, here we go.
13:34Oh, boy.
13:35David Shelby died.
13:4023.
13:41Mm-hmm.
13:42Uluwed.
13:43Catherine Parkfield, 38.
13:46Mum of three.
13:47Pregnant with a fourth.
13:49I mean, her unborn baby doesn't count on the death toll list, sadly.
13:54And Max Dale, he was seven years old.
14:01He was on his way to meet his father.
14:04Just back from a tour in Afghanistan.
14:08You know, Gavin Dale will never see his son or his wife again.
14:12Get out, now.
14:20Get out.
14:24What the hell was that?
14:29That bust killed 15 people.
14:31He could not give a toss.
14:32More than ever behave like that in an interview again.
14:35Do you understand?
14:38Maybe the eye, Chandler, let you play bad cop,
14:40would not have officers undermining prosecutions with violence.
14:46You count yourself lucky he didn't want a brief in that interview,
14:49otherwise you'd be suspended.
14:50Get to your desk.
14:52Now.
14:56Is it?
14:59Gov?
15:00Yeah?
15:01This boy's got two sets of dabs off the steering wheel.
15:04One belonged to Janice, but the other matched somebody else not on the system.
15:08Maybe you lent the car to a mate?
15:11Yeah, well, listen, we'd better identify those prints,
15:14otherwise Janice is pretty full of only bringing up and call and say someone else did it.
15:17What?
15:18Why don't we just ask him the question?
15:20Who was driving the car?
15:21Well, there's another thing, Gov.
15:22It can't have been Janice,
15:24unless he's got some sort of invisibility cloak.
15:27We've checked all of the CCTV now.
15:29Nobody went in or out of that crash site
15:32from the time the crash happened
15:34to the time we sealed off the site.
15:36Right, well, if no-one's been seen going in and out of the site,
15:41then maybe the driver was still in it,
15:43hiding amongst the passengers.
15:45Yeah, we'll talk to Intel,
15:46see if they've finished the background checks.
15:48Okay.
15:53Um, Gov?
15:54Yeah?
15:55Um, about Sam.
15:56What about him?
16:00Well...
16:00Yeah, okay.
16:01I'm trusting you, Ron,
16:03but you keep a tight leash on him.
16:07Sam, I know you are hurting,
16:10and I know you've got that kid's face right here,
16:14but if you can't hold it together...
16:16Ronnie, look, I'm still here.
16:20I was only in the job four weeks.
16:23They put me on response.
16:25I was the first one on the scene, car crash.
16:27Okay?
16:28Three kids, all gone.
16:31I couldn't sleep for three months, mate.
16:34That was an accident.
16:36This was deliberate.
16:40You have got a boy of your own to think about now,
16:43and a job you need to hang on to.
16:46Okay?
16:47And let me tell you,
16:48this is going to get a whole lot worse.
16:51You've got the inquest,
16:52you've got the trial,
16:54you've got all those grieving families wanting answers.
16:57So,
16:58let's just get it right for them, eh?
17:02Eh?
17:02Yeah.
17:03Come on, come on.
17:09Hi, Kim.
17:09Hi, Ronnie.
17:10Anyone jump out at you?
17:12Apart from all the fake injuries,
17:14hoping for a nice insurance settlement with county trains,
17:17we've got seven between the ages of 16 and 65,
17:21with no ticket,
17:22or who can't remember where they boarded.
17:24Are you PNC'd them?
17:26No criminal records.
17:27All right.
17:28Thanks, sir.
17:29Thanks.
17:33So, what do you reckon?
17:34Our man hung around to admire his handiwork,
17:38and then just got stuck when we closed the scene.
17:40Yeah.
17:41Let's start with this one.
17:43He lied about where he got on.
17:44You told the police you boarded the train at Wimbledon.
17:53It was serviting.
17:55I stayed at a mate's house.
17:57Why would you lie about that, sir?
17:58I was confused.
18:00I had a bang to the head, didn't I?
18:03But you couldn't have been that confused.
18:06I mean, you're still at work, aren't you?
18:08I don't work.
18:10I don't get paid.
18:12Well, you also showed the police an expired passport.
18:18We're going to need to see a valid ID.
18:20That's all I've got.
18:24What about a driver's licence?
18:26I don't drive.
18:28What?
18:29Not at all.
18:30I barely make enough money to pay my mum a housekeeping.
18:36How am I supposed to afford driving lessons?
18:45Kath, I am not asking to change my contact.
18:49I am not saying that.
18:51All I'm asking is to...
18:52What?
18:55You get them all week.
18:57You get them all week and I get...
19:00She not happy?
19:03You know, most weekends, she dumps in with her mum.
19:05She's off partying.
19:08Ron, how's it going to work if I get in for a weekend?
19:11Well, you had your counselling session, yeah?
19:13I'll get my therapy down in the pub later.
19:15Don't you worry about that.
19:17Good.
19:18Right, then.
19:19Here we are.
19:20Number 131.
19:24No valid train ticket.
19:25This is Finn Tyler, 36, unemployed.
19:28Got cuts and bruises treated at the scene.
19:30And used his driver's licence as ID.
19:34Well, at least we know this one can drive.
19:36Hello there.
19:49Detective Sergeant Brooks.
19:50Detective Sergeant Casey.
19:52Would you like a word with Finn Tyler, please?
19:54What's he done now?
19:57Is he hurt?
19:59Not badly.
20:00He doesn't live here, then?
20:08We separated a month ago.
20:14Can you tell us where he is?
20:16Hmm.
20:16He lives in a bedsit around the corner.
20:20I'll get you the address.
20:21Hello.
20:29I like your drawings.
20:31It's a triceratops.
20:33It means three-horned face.
20:35Really?
20:37You're very clever, aren't you?
20:38I'm going to be a pain in toddlers when I grow up.
20:46He looks a bit mean to me.
20:49He's going to keep me and Mummy safe.
20:53In case Daddy goes funny again.
20:55Who is it?
21:16Police.
21:18Just a minute.
21:18OK.
21:25Finn Tyler.
21:28Yes, Brooks.
21:29Yes, Casey.
21:32The driver's license you showed the officer at the scene
21:36had your wife's address on.
21:38Yeah.
21:39Separation's only temporary, so...
21:41I'll get myself back on my feet.
21:44Still, might be best to let the DVLA know your new details, yeah?
21:51We need to see that license.
21:53It's, uh...
22:12My little girl, Ellie.
22:15Bridesmaid at my brother's wedding.
22:16Yeah?
22:18Well, that must be tough, you know, being away from her.
22:21Your arm's bleeding.
22:36Did you get that in the crash?
22:39Iron glass.
22:42Right.
22:44Well, have you got any spare dressings?
22:45Oh, you don't just do CPR, you know.
22:52I reckon I can bandage a cut.
22:59I don't know.
23:00Well, take a seat, and I'm looking at it for you.
23:02Oh, pop your tub off.
23:20Oh, pop my dad.
23:44This isn't from flying glasses, is it, Finn?
24:01It is. It is.
24:04It's too clean, Finn. It's too clean.
24:07That was done by a blade.
24:09How long have you been cutting yourself?
24:20How long?
24:25It started when I was a kid.
24:28But I stopped when I met Manda.
24:31She made everything right.
24:35Well, little Ellie came into our lives.
24:39I thought I was healed.
24:44And why did it start again?
24:50When I lost them, it all went dark.
24:53But it stops when I cut.
24:57For a while, it all stops.
24:59Well, you know what, Finn?
25:06I don't think you got this gun in the crash at all.
25:11I think this was done to make it look like you was hurting the crash.
25:15Hey.
25:21Am I right?
25:21Something make it go dark again?
25:41I never meant to kill anyone.
25:43But you did, Finn, didn't you?
25:59You killed 15 people.
26:02I meant to kill one.
26:03It was supposed to be me.
26:05We were convinced Jenis was guilty.
26:13It was his car.
26:14He had a motive.
26:15But Finn Tyler's DNA is all over that vehicle.
26:18And his confession is watertight, as you see.
26:21Do you really think Tyler intended to kill himself?
26:25Why?
26:26Does it make a difference?
26:27It might influence how we charge him.
26:30Well, you've got his DNA in the vehicle.
26:31His fingerprints are on the steering wheel.
26:33And there's a signed, taped confession.
26:35Without a solicitor present.
26:37He didn't want one.
26:39And he was seen by a mental health professional.
26:41Yeah.
26:42The FME.
26:43And he was, he was confident.
26:48He was confident Tyler was fit for interview.
26:51I'd like to see it.
26:54It's by the book, Jake.
26:57I sincerely hope you're going to charge him with 15 counts of murder
27:01and 120 counts of attempted murder.
27:04Because I was at that scene and I saw what he did to those people.
27:13It was unequivocal intent by Finn Tyler.
27:16He drove his car onto those tracks.
27:18He must have known the train would crash.
27:20He was thinking logically.
27:21I agree.
27:22But if he was suicidal, logic goes out the window.
27:25Well, he seemed to make a reappearance
27:27when he decided to escape the vehicle
27:29and save his own life.
27:31Screw everyone else's.
27:33We charge murder.
27:3415 counts.
27:36Stop the attempted murder charges if you have to.
27:38He's unfair, sir.
27:39It saves us the cost of trial.
27:41Here's repping him.
27:43Kate Barker.
27:45Kate Barker.
27:47Oh, you know her?
27:48No, we're Joseph Holland.
27:49Manchester big-time crack dealer.
27:51CPS North West had him bang to rights
27:53and he coughs up for Kate Barker as counsel.
27:57She's the one who got Holland off.
27:59She took tenancy at a set in London about three months ago.
28:04Attractive barrister new on the scene
28:06and you don't know about it.
28:08You're losing your touch, Jake.
28:10No, she's doing this on legal aid.
28:12Don't let that fool you.
28:18Diminished responsibility.
28:20My client has a history of depression
28:21with emotional, unstable personality traits.
28:26I was hoping you'd surprise me.
28:28Jake, by the way.
28:29Finn Tyler grew up in care.
28:32Shocking childhood.
28:33Prolific self-harmer.
28:35Perfect dad for four years
28:37and then he loses his job
28:39and his wife dumps him.
28:41Won't let him see his kid.
28:43He is going to break the jury's hearts.
28:45Jury?
28:46He confessed.
28:47Yeah, about that.
28:48It seems the police conveniently
28:50forgot to call in an appropriate adult.
28:53He didn't need one.
28:54The forensic medical examiner
28:56assessed him fit for interview.
28:57Oh, with his slashed wrist still gushing blood.
29:01Really?
29:02I thought we were here to discuss the plea.
29:05Yeah, we are.
29:06But if we can't agree,
29:06this will go before a jury.
29:08And what does he want me to agree to exactly?
29:10Manslaughter diminished responsibility.
29:13The judge will see
29:14concurrent sentences are the best option
29:16if she doesn't make a hospital order.
29:18A hospital order?
29:19Tyler deserves prison for life.
29:22You can't expect us to treat this
29:24as though he killed one person instead of 15.
29:26But that was his intent.
29:28To kill one person himself.
29:30Shame you didn't have the balls
29:31to stay in the car then.
29:36You can make me a counter?
29:39I do love a good barter.
29:41Oh, please.
29:42Make yourself at home.
29:45We're charging murder.
29:4715 counts.
29:48The only bargain you're getting off me
29:50is the 120 dropped attempted murder charges.
29:54I'd say you got a good deal.
29:56No.
29:57Not good enough.
29:59The incarceration of mentally disordered offenders
30:02is a bit of a passion project of mine.
30:05This will make a great case study.
30:07Ah, now I get the legal aid.
30:11Well, because all defence barristers
30:13are interested in is the page count, right?
30:17Maybe I'm different.
30:18Do you think his responsibility was diminished?
30:22There's a giant chasm between suicidal thoughts
30:25and crashing a commuter train
30:27because your wife left you.
30:28That's a little mad.
30:30Selfish.
30:31Sounds like Kate Barker
30:33isn't the only one making this a passion project.
30:35I find suicide hard enough to understand.
30:38Taking other people with you,
30:40that's unforgivable.
30:41I got the police to talk to Tyler's wife.
30:45Maybe she can fill in that chasm.
30:48When he lost his job,
30:50he told me he'd been given an admin role.
30:53They wanted people to work from home.
30:55He said he volunteered
30:55so he could spend more time with Ellie.
30:57And how did he explain his vanishing wages?
31:01Well, he didn't.
31:02Put everything on the credit cards,
31:04mortgage, utilities,
31:06and a lot.
31:09And you found Elle?
31:10Ellie's HLP.
31:12Well, they used to call gifted.
31:14She won a part scholarship
31:16to a private school
31:18and, er...
31:20cos I was doing my nursing training,
31:22I managed to get a bursary
31:23to cover the rest of her school fees.
31:29We were away
31:30after...
31:31at, er...
31:34a friend's cottage in Yorkshire.
31:36Do you want sugar?
31:37Oh, no.
31:38No, thanks.
31:39Headmaster rang,
31:41said that Ellie's fees
31:42were a term and half late.
31:45Finn had maxed out credit cards
31:47and spent a bursary, too.
31:50And so, what,
31:51you gave Finn his marching orders?
31:53I told him I wanted him out.
31:55They were crying,
31:57begging me not to leave him.
32:00I mean, I could forgive him the debt.
32:02The lies, even, but...
32:05Well, not Ellie's school fees.
32:09I mean, she's been given a chance.
32:12Neither has ever had.
32:14I slept in with Ellie that night.
32:20And the next morning,
32:22when we tried to leave the cottage,
32:25it wouldn't let us.
32:28Well, he got violent.
32:31He...
32:32he locked the door,
32:34he barricaded it.
32:38It was a kitchen knife.
32:39Ellie was terrified.
32:45It took me three hours
32:48to talk him down,
32:51get him to let us go.
32:52I honestly thought he was going to kill us all.
33:07Do you know why I'm here today?
33:11To see if I'm mental.
33:12Your solicitor wants to say
33:17you're not guilty of murder
33:18because you're mentally ill.
33:21Do you think you're ill?
33:24I don't know.
33:25All I know is I wanted out.
33:31Couldn't even get that right.
33:36I screw everything up.
33:40My marriage.
33:42My daughter.
33:43I can't even have my own life with that.
33:49I'm making a mess of it.
33:51Is he psychotic?
33:55He's full of shame and rage,
33:58but psychotic, no.
34:00He's bitter.
34:02Resentful.
34:03Towards his wife?
34:04I think he wanted to get back at her.
34:07I killed myself and 15 others
34:10and it's all your fault.
34:12That's got to be hard to live with.
34:14But did he ever intend
34:16to go through with it?
34:18If he did,
34:19he knew perfectly well
34:20he was going to take
34:21a lot of other people with him.
34:24And
34:25that doesn't suggest
34:27a mental health disorder
34:28sufficient to demonstrate
34:30an abnormality of the mind.
34:34I've read both the reports
34:36and while it's clear
34:37that Mr. Tyler
34:39was suffering depression
34:40and insecure attachments
34:43from his time in care,
34:45I'm still not convinced
34:46that he's suffering
34:47an abnormality of the mind.
34:49My lady,
34:49the defendant
34:50was quite evidently suicidal
34:52following the breakdown
34:53of his marriage.
34:54If this isn't an abnormality
34:56of the mind,
34:57then what is?
34:57My lady,
34:58relationships break up.
34:59People feel a little low about it.
35:01They don't all try
35:02and derail commuter trains.
35:04A little low?
35:06I can tell you've never had
35:07a relationship
35:08worth hanging on to.
35:09I'm inclined to agree
35:11with the Crown,
35:13Miss Barker.
35:14If your client wants
35:16to plead diminished
35:16responsibility,
35:18so be it.
35:18But it's up to the jury
35:20to decide
35:21whether or not
35:22he was suffering
35:23an abnormality of the mind
35:25at the time
35:26the offence was committed.
35:27He remained at the scene.
35:33He, uh,
35:34mingled with real passengers.
35:37He used a penknife
35:39to inflict superficial wounds
35:41to his hands and arms.
35:43He was treated by paramedics
35:46and then released.
35:46How would you,
35:48as a police officer,
35:51interpret these actions?
35:54He was trying to blend in.
35:57Get away.
36:00Like any other
36:01hit-and-runner.
36:14I understand you arrived
36:16at the scene
36:16about 20 minutes
36:17after the crash.
36:19Yes, I did.
36:20Am I right?
36:22You attempted
36:23to give CPR
36:24to a young child,
36:26but sadly
36:27were unable
36:28to save him.
36:32Yes.
36:33A seven-year-old boy,
36:35Max Dale.
36:38I did everything
36:39I could.
36:42But he died.
36:46That must have been
36:48incredibly challenging
36:49for you.
36:51Traumatic.
36:54That's my job.
36:57Even so,
36:59you're a father.
37:02I'm sure having a child
37:04your son's age
37:05die in your arms
37:07must have affected
37:08you greatly.
37:08Yes, I suppose so.
37:17You must have felt
37:18very angry
37:19with whoever
37:20was responsible.
37:21Of course I felt angry,
37:23but I remained
37:25professional.
37:26You arrested
37:26Mr. Tyler.
37:29Yes, I did.
37:30Interrogated him.
37:31I interviewed him.
37:34He confessed
37:34to an officer
37:36who had held
37:37his dying
37:38seven-year-old
37:38victim in his arms.
37:40He admitted his guilt
37:40at his arrest.
37:43And once again,
37:45during an interview,
37:46no one put
37:47any pressure on him.
37:48Did you make
37:49any special arrangements
37:50for Mr. Tyler?
37:51Special arrangements?
37:52Were any special
37:54precautions taken
37:55while he was
37:56in custody?
37:57No.
37:58Are you quite
38:01sure about that?
38:09He was on
38:10suicide watch.
38:17Nothing more,
38:18m'lady.
38:23Pete Parker
38:24scored a hat-trick
38:25of Sam Casey.
38:26If Tyler was
38:27on suicide watch,
38:28he must be
38:29mentally ill.
38:30That's how
38:30the jury will see it.
38:31Or feeling suicidal
38:32could be seen
38:33as remorse
38:33for his actions.
38:34That's evidence
38:35of his sanity.
38:36How he felt
38:37after the event
38:37is irrelevant.
38:38All the defence
38:39has to prove
38:39was his state of mind
38:40at the time
38:41of the offence.
38:43All Kate Barker's
38:44interested in
38:44is using this case
38:46as a soapbox
38:46to highlight the cuts
38:47of mental health
38:48provisions.
38:50How too many
38:50mentally ill people
38:51end up being
38:52criminalised by the state.
38:54That could resonate
38:55with the jury.
38:55Everyone's angry
38:56about NHS cuts.
38:58I have to dash.
39:00This case
39:01isn't about cuts.
39:03I won't let her
39:03distract them.
39:04Dr. Holdsworth,
39:21the antidepressants
39:23you prescribed
39:23have a number
39:24of side effects.
39:26Well,
39:27all medication
39:28has side effects.
39:29Perhaps you could tell us
39:30the ones caused
39:31by this particular
39:32medication.
39:33Oh,
39:34nausea,
39:35decreased appetite,
39:38raised cholesterol,
39:39sexual problems.
39:40Insomnia,
39:41nightmares,
39:42agitation,
39:43confusion,
39:44hallucinations,
39:45suicidal thoughts.
39:48Well,
39:48in some cases,
39:50yes.
39:51But Finn Tyler
39:51was also a prolific
39:52self-harmer.
39:53I had no idea
39:55he was self-harming.
39:56All I saw
39:57was a man
39:58feeling down
39:58over a marriage
39:59breakup.
40:00Nothing more.
40:02What a shame
40:04you didn't see
40:04a man in severe
40:05crisis begging
40:06you for help.
40:08Because then
40:0915 lives
40:10might have been
40:10saved.
40:11My lady,
40:11did I miss
40:12ask the question
40:13there?
40:14The jury
40:15will disregard
40:16the last comment
40:17made by
40:18Miss Barker.
40:25Dr. Holdsworth,
40:26you were the last
40:26medical professional
40:27to see the defendant
40:28before the train
40:29crash.
40:30You saw him
40:31a month before
40:31when you prescribed
40:33the antidepressants.
40:34Yeah,
40:35that's right.
40:35Did he appear
40:36as though he was
40:37suffering with a
40:38mental health
40:39disorder?
40:39He was behaving
40:41like a spoiled
40:41child.
40:43He didn't get
40:44what he wanted.
40:44He had a tantrum
40:45and stormed out.
40:46What made him
40:47so angry?
40:47I suggested
40:48he try the
40:50antidepressants
40:50and use some
40:51relaxation techniques,
40:52but he wanted
40:53sleeping pills.
40:55I'm not in the
40:56habit of dishing
40:56them out without
40:57very good reason.
40:59Oh, because
40:59the budget cuts?
41:00No, because
41:01I don't want
41:02patients becoming
41:03needlessly reliant
41:05on addictive
41:05medication,
41:07especially when
41:08they have a
41:08history of addiction.
41:09Mr. Tyler
41:12has a history
41:13of drug addiction.
41:14Alcohol abuse.
41:16He was treated
41:16in rehab
41:17for alcoholism
41:18in 2004
41:19and again
41:20earlier this year.
41:24Amanda.
41:25That's it.
41:28Um,
41:29did you know
41:31Finn was an
41:32alcoholic
41:32when you first
41:33met him?
41:33Yeah,
41:35but
41:35I really believed
41:37he'd stay sober
41:38for me and
41:39Ellie.
41:40All right.
41:41And what made
41:41him start drinking
41:42again?
41:43He had a run-in
41:44at work with
41:45his brother
41:45Daniel.
41:46Just triggered
41:48something in him.
41:49He was so jealous
41:50of his brother's
41:51success.
41:52What sort of
41:53business was it?
41:53Um, security.
41:57CCTV monitoring
41:58mainly.
41:59Daniel's got
41:59contracts up and
42:00down the country.
42:04What was the name
42:05of the company?
42:06Hayleton
42:07Security.
42:14Daniel Hayleton
42:15was spoken to
42:16after the crash
42:17about security
42:18and any
42:18disgruntled
42:19employees.
42:20We even asked
42:21him for a list
42:22of anyone
42:22that had been
42:23let go in
42:24the past year.
42:25He never
42:25mentioned his
42:25brother?
42:26No, and
42:27because Tyler
42:28was unemployed
42:29there was no
42:30reason for us
42:31to ask about
42:31his last
42:32employer.
42:33Hayleton
42:33was paying
42:34him cash
42:34in hand
42:35so Tyler
42:35never made
42:36it onto
42:36any books
42:37and because
42:37of the
42:38different
42:38surnames
42:39well,
42:41we just
42:42didn't connect
42:42any dots.
42:43Mr. Hayleton
42:47you gave
42:48your brother
42:48a job
42:48at your
42:49firm
42:49Hayleton
42:50Security.
42:51I felt
42:51sorry for
42:52him.
42:53He just
42:54lost his
42:54job
42:55and Amanda
42:56was doing
42:56nursing
42:57qualifications.
42:58And I
42:59believe you
42:59fired him
43:00because he
43:00was unreliable.
43:02That's right.
43:03He was
43:03drinking.
43:05I paid
43:06for rehab
43:06but he was
43:07just as bad
43:07when he got
43:08out.
43:08You and
43:09your brother
43:09grew up
43:09in care.
43:11We had
43:12a rough
43:12start.
43:13but you
43:14got to
43:15put the
43:15past
43:15behind
43:16you
43:16haven't
43:16you?
43:16Do you
43:17think
43:17this
43:17was
43:17a
43:17genuine
43:18suicide
43:18attempt?
43:26No.
43:28I think
43:29he wanted
43:29to get
43:30back at
43:30me.
43:31How
43:31would
43:31causing
43:31the
43:32train
43:32crash
43:32get
43:33back
43:33at
43:33you?
43:33My
43:34company
43:34we
43:35had
43:35the
43:35contract
43:36with
43:36county
43:37trains.
43:38It was
43:38my firm
43:39that watched
43:39the gate
43:40that he
43:41broke
43:41through.
43:42So
43:43Finn
43:44knew
43:44about
43:44the
43:45shift
43:45change.
43:46He
43:46knew
43:46the
43:47best
43:47time
43:47to
43:48hit
43:48that
43:48gate.
43:49It
43:49was
43:49his
43:49job
43:49to
43:50watch
43:50it.
43:54Looking a lot
43:55more like
43:56revenge
43:57than
43:57diminished
43:58responsibility
43:59to me.
44:00You
44:00can't
44:01be
44:01mentally
44:01ill
44:02and
44:02vengeful.
44:04What
44:04about
44:04school
44:05shootings?
44:06Bullied,
44:07demoralised
44:07teenagers,
44:08depressed,
44:10seeking
44:10revenge?
44:11Any
44:11juror with
44:12half a
44:12brain cell
44:13will see
44:13Finn
44:13Tyler
44:14for
44:14exactly
44:14what
44:15he
44:15is.
44:15An
44:16angry,
44:17vengeful
44:17man
44:17who
44:18needlessly
44:19murdered
44:1915
44:20people
44:20to get
44:21back
44:21at
44:21his
44:21brother.
44:25Come on
44:26Miss
44:26Barker.
44:28No
44:28last
44:28word.
44:31When
44:32the
44:32courts
44:32heard
44:32from
44:33our
44:33psychiatrist
44:34I'm
44:34calling
44:34Finn
44:35Tyler.
44:36I'll
44:37leave
44:37the
44:37last
44:37word
44:37to
44:37him.
44:40I
44:40saw
44:40you
44:41with
44:41Henry.
44:45Were
44:46you
44:46jealous?
44:51got to
44:51get
44:51this.
44:52Sorry.
44:55Hello
44:56Kate Barker.
45:00I
45:01never
45:01heard
45:01of
45:01that.
45:02I
45:03was
45:03an
45:03alcoholic.
45:04We
45:04was
45:04in
45:05and
45:05out
45:05of
45:06care
45:06homes
45:06from
45:07as
45:07early
45:07as
45:07I
45:08can
45:08remember.
45:09I
45:10started
45:11drinking
45:12when I
45:12was 12.
45:14Self-harming
45:14when I
45:15was 13.
45:16And
45:17you
45:17carried
45:17on
45:17as
45:17an
45:18adult?
45:19It
45:19was
45:19how
45:20I
45:20coped.
45:20Your
45:21brother
45:21is
45:21a
45:22successful
45:22businessman.
45:23He
45:23told
45:24the
45:24court
45:24he
45:24moved
45:25on
45:25from
45:25his
45:25damaged
45:26past.
45:26He
45:27was
45:27fostered
45:28by
45:28a
45:28decent
45:28family
45:29wasn't
45:29he?
45:30They
45:30adopted
45:31him.
45:31Sent
45:32him
45:32to
45:32a
45:32good
45:32school.
45:34He
45:34was
45:34never
45:34pushed
45:35from
45:35pillar
45:36to
45:36post
45:36like
45:36me.
45:38Why
45:39did
45:39your
45:39marriage
45:40break
45:40down?
45:41Daniel
45:41sacked
45:41me.
45:42I
45:42was
45:42so
45:44scared
45:44of
45:45losing
45:45Amanda
45:45I
45:46never
45:47told
45:47her.
45:48When
45:49she
45:49found
45:49out
45:49I
45:50so much
45:51that
45:51she
45:51freaked
45:52and kicked
45:52me
45:52out.
45:53I
45:53tried
45:54to
45:55get
45:55myself
45:55together
45:56again
45:56but
45:56she
45:59wouldn't
45:59let me
45:59see
46:00my
46:00little
46:00girl.
46:02Without
46:02her
46:03there
46:03wasn't
46:05a
46:05point.
46:08So
46:09you
46:09took
46:09that
46:09car
46:10and
46:11drove
46:11onto
46:11the
46:11tracks.
46:14Tell
46:15me
46:15Finn
46:15did
46:16you
46:16honestly
46:17intend
46:18to
46:18kill
46:18yourself?
46:19Yes.
46:20didn't
46:21you
46:21realize
46:22other
46:22people
46:22could
46:22be
46:22hurt?
46:24I
46:24thought
46:24the
46:25train
46:25would
46:25wipe
46:26out
46:26the
46:26car
46:26and
46:26keep
46:27going
46:27like
46:27a
46:28tube
46:28train
46:29when
46:29someone
46:29jumps
46:30in
46:30front
46:30of
46:31it.
46:31But
46:31you
46:31got
46:31out
46:32of
46:32the
46:32car.
46:34Why
46:34did
46:35you
46:35do
46:35that?
46:35I
46:37saw
46:37the
46:38train
46:38coming
46:38in
46:39and
46:41I
46:41saw
46:42Ellie
46:43crying
46:43at
46:43my
46:44funeral
46:44and
46:44I
46:45couldn't.
46:46I
46:46tried
46:46to
46:47hot
46:47wire
46:47the
46:47car
46:48again
46:48but
46:48it
46:48wouldn't
46:49spark.
46:49I
46:50swear
46:50to
46:50God
46:50I
46:51never
46:51meant
46:51to
46:52hurt
46:52anyone.
46:54I'm
46:54so
46:54sorry.
46:55Sorry.
46:55If you
47:15really
47:16wanted
47:16to
47:16kill
47:16yourself
47:17why
47:17didn't
47:17you
47:17throw
47:18yourself
47:18off
47:18a
47:18building?
47:20I
47:20wanted
47:20to
47:21make
47:21sure
47:21I
47:21didn't
47:22survive
47:22to
47:23be
47:23a
47:23burden
47:24on
47:24my
47:24family.
47:24But
47:25you
47:25could
47:25have
47:25jumped
47:25in
47:25front
47:26of
47:26a
47:26tomb
47:26taken
47:27an
47:27overdose.
47:28That's
47:28why
47:29I
47:29tried
47:29to
47:29get
47:29them
47:30sleeping
47:30tablets
47:31but
47:31that
47:31doctor
47:31never
47:32gave
47:32them
47:32to
47:32What
47:32was
47:33the
47:33real
47:33reason
47:33you
47:33caused
47:34the
47:34train
47:34crash?
47:36I
47:36told you
47:37already
47:37I
47:37wanted
47:38to
47:38kill
47:38myself.
47:38Wasn't
47:39it
47:39to
47:39get
47:39your
47:39wife's
47:40attention
47:40and
47:40get
47:40revenge
47:41on
47:41your
47:41brother
47:41to
47:42boot?
47:43I
47:43mean
47:43she's
47:44been
47:44here
47:44for
47:44you
47:45every
47:45day
47:54family
47:55is
47:55everything
47:56to
47:56you
47:56honestly
47:56expect
47:57this
47:57court
47:58to
47:58believe
47:58you
47:58thought
47:59no
47:59one
47:59else
47:59would
47:59be
48:00hurt?
48:00I
48:24poor
48:26me
48:26poor
48:27Finn
48:27Tyler
48:28you
48:28can
48:29watch
48:29Ellie
48:29grow
48:29up
48:30make
48:30friends
48:30pass
48:31exams
48:32get
48:33a
48:33boyfriend
48:33get
48:34married
48:34Max
48:35Dale's
48:36father
48:36is
48:36here
48:36today
48:37how
48:37do
48:37you
48:37think
48:38he
48:38feels
48:38he
48:39will
48:39never
48:39see
48:40his
48:40wife
48:40and
48:40son
48:41again
48:41maybe
48:42you'll
48:42be
48:42lucky
48:43enough
48:43to
48:43help
48:43Ellie
48:43choose
48:44what
48:44subjects
48:44she
48:45takes
48:45at
48:45school
48:46or
48:46what
48:46she
48:46wears
48:47on
48:47her
48:47wedding
48:47day
48:48all
48:48Gavin
48:48Dale
48:49will
48:49choose
48:49is
48:50what
48:50kind
48:50of
48:50flowers
48:50to
48:51put
48:51in
48:51his
48:51son's
48:52grave
48:52this
48:53is
48:53a
48:53speech
48:54m'lady
48:54mr
48:55thorne
48:55please
48:56you
48:56could
48:56have
48:56chosen
48:56a
48:56method
48:57of
48:57suicide
48:57that
48:58didn't
48:58endanger
48:59others
48:59you
49:00could
49:00have
49:00saved
49:00all
49:00those
49:01children
49:01who
49:02lost
49:02parents
49:03from
49:03a
49:03lifetime
49:03of
49:04misery
49:04that's
49:05not
49:06diminished
49:06responsibility
49:07it's
49:08cowardice
49:20jake
49:23he gets
49:28a hospital
49:29order
49:29he'll
49:30be
49:30out
49:30in
49:30six
49:30months
49:31or
49:31detained
49:32for
49:32the
49:32rest
49:32of
49:32his
49:32life
49:33he's
49:33not
49:33mentally
49:33ill
49:34i mean
49:34the
49:34doctors
49:34in
49:35a
49:35security
49:35and
49:35it
49:36was
49:36spotted
49:36in
49:36a
49:37second
49:37he'll
49:38be
49:38at
49:38the
49:38dose
49:39before
49:39we
49:39know
49:39it
49:40it
49:40it's
49:40all
49:40if
49:40Sam
49:41the
49:42jury
49:42find him
49:42guilty
49:43of
49:43murder
49:43then
49:43he's
49:43facing
49:4415
49:44life
49:45sentences
49:46have
49:48you
49:48been
49:48drinking
49:49yes
49:51i had
49:53a
49:53couple
49:53at
49:53lunch
49:54time
49:54so
49:54what
49:55let's
49:58hope
49:59the jury
49:59is back
49:59monday
50:00with
50:00good
50:00news
50:01good
50:01news
50:02there's
50:04no good
50:04news
50:05for
50:05gavindale
50:06i mean
50:06that
50:06bastard
50:07wiped
50:07out
50:07his
50:07entire
50:08family
50:08please
50:14answer
50:14either
50:14yes
50:15or
50:15no
50:15to
50:15my
50:16first
50:16question
50:16have
50:18the
50:18jury
50:18reached
50:19a
50:19verdict
50:19upon
50:20which
50:20you
50:20were
50:20all
50:21agreed
50:21yes
50:22on
50:23count
50:24one
50:24on
50:25the
50:25charge
50:25of
50:26the
50:26murder
50:26of
50:26max
50:27dale
50:27how
50:28do
50:28you
50:28find
50:28the
50:29defendant
50:29finn luke
50:30tyler
50:31guilty
50:32or
50:33not
50:33guilty
50:33not
50:36guilty
50:37but
50:40guilty
50:40of
50:40manslaughter
50:41by
50:41reason
50:42of
50:42diminished
50:42responsibility
50:43on
50:45count
50:45two
50:45on
50:46the
50:46charge
50:47of
50:47the
50:47murder
50:47of
50:48marniedale
50:49as
50:50you
50:50find
50:50the
50:50defendant
50:51finn luke
50:52tyler
50:52guilty
50:53or
50:54not
50:54guilty
50:54not
50:55guilty
50:56but
50:57guilty
50:58of
50:58manslaughter
50:59by reason
51:00of
51:00diminished
51:00responsibility
51:01finn luke
51:08finn luke tyler
51:08you have been found
51:11guilty on
51:12fifteen counts
51:13of
51:13manslaughter
51:14by reason
51:15of
51:15diminished
51:16responsibility
51:16i am therefore
51:18sentencing you
51:19to a hospital
51:20order
51:20with a
51:21section
51:21forty
51:22one
51:22restriction
51:23you will
51:24not be
51:24released
51:25without
51:26leave
51:27of the
51:27secretary
51:27of
51:28state
51:28he'll
51:38get
51:38treatments
51:38in
51:38hospital
51:39he can
51:39apply
51:40for
51:40release
51:40in
51:41six
51:41months
51:41he
51:41deserved
51:42fifteen
51:43life
51:43sentences
51:44maybe
51:44he did
51:45you
51:46agree
51:47he was
51:47criminally
51:48responsible
51:48he did
51:49a terrible
51:49thing
51:50but it
51:50could
51:50have
51:51been
51:51averted
51:51millions
51:52spent
51:53on
51:53prisons
51:53while
51:53mental
51:54health
51:54takes
51:54the
51:54brunt
51:54of
51:55the
51:55cooks
51:55i
51:56don't
51:57make
51:57social
51:57policy
51:58no
51:59you
51:59just
52:00clean
52:00up
52:00after
52:00those
52:01that
52:01do
52:01but it's
52:07been
52:07fun
52:07as you
52:09told you
52:09the good
52:09news
52:10then
52:10i
52:11didn't
52:11think
52:12it
52:12was
52:12fair
52:12during
52:12the
52:12trial
52:13in case
52:14it
52:14distracted
52:14you
52:14apart
52:15from
52:15your
52:15appalling
52:16taste
52:16in
52:17footwear
52:17there's
52:17very
52:17little
52:18you
52:18could
52:18do
52:18to
52:19distract
52:19me
52:19miss
52:20barker
52:20kate
52:21you
52:22should
52:22definitely
52:23start
52:23calling
52:24me
52:24kate
52:24especially
52:25as you'll
52:25be
52:25sharing
52:25an
52:26office
52:26kate
52:28will
52:28be
52:28joining
52:28us
52:28for
52:28monday
52:29alicia's
52:29replacement
52:30who's
52:33for a
52:33celebratory
52:34drink
52:34yeah
52:36look i'll
52:37see you
52:37down there
52:37i just
52:38need a
52:38quick word
52:38with my
52:38client
52:39if you
52:51could just
52:51get your
52:52client to
52:52sign that
52:53for us
52:54then
52:54nominate
52:54the
52:55family
52:55member
52:55or
52:55we
52:56can
52:56kill
52:56his
52:56property
52:56too
52:56that
52:57would
52:57be
52:57great
52:57let's
52:58see
52:58estranged
52:59wife
52:59or
53:00loving
53:00brother
53:00here to
53:02see
53:02Finn
53:02Tyler
53:03if you
53:05just
53:05want to
53:05hang
53:06on a
53:06tick
53:06I'll
53:06give it
53:06straight
53:07back
53:07Tyler's
53:07at
53:07number
53:08eight
53:08okay
53:09what are
53:24you doing
53:25here
53:25Sam
53:27Sam
53:29what are you
53:29doing down
53:29here
53:30Sam
53:31he's
53:42dead
53:42Tyler's
53:45dead
53:45over
53:55him
53:56and
53:57look
53:57now
53:58let
53:58damn
53:59Allah
54:00let
54:00us
54:01let
54:01our
54:03and
54:04.
54:04Our
54:08oste
54:08name
54:08.
54:08.
54:09.
54:09.
54:10.
54:10.
54:10.
54:10.
54:11.
54:11.
54:12.
54:13.
54:13.
54:14and the story continues in law and order uk next sunday at nine but if you can't wait till then we
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