Law & Order UK Season 7 Episode 2 Tremors
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00:00Prosecutors who prosecute the offenders, these are their stories.
00:15I need a paramedic! I need a paramedic now!
00:19Max, Max, open your eyes.
00:24I never meant to kill anyone!
00:27I sincerely hope you're gonna charge him with 15 counts of murder and 120 counts of attempted murder.
00:34He is repping you.
00:36Kate Barker.
00:37Diminished responsibility. My client has a history of depression with emotional, unstable personality traits.
00:45All Gavin Dale will choose is what kind of flowers to put in his son's grave.
00:49This is a speech, m'lady.
00:51He gets a hospital order. He'll be out in six months.
00:54Or detained for the rest of his life.
00:55He's not mentally ill. I mean, the doctor's in the security unit was spotted in a second.
01:00On the charge of the murder of Max Dale. How do you find the defendant?
01:04Not guilty.
01:06But guilty of manslaughter by reason of diminished responsibility.
01:11Kate will be joining us for Monday, Alicia's replacement.
01:15Who?
01:16Who's for a celebratory drink?
01:17He'd see Finn Tyler.
01:20What are you doing here?
01:22Sir?
01:24He's dead.
01:26Tyler's dead.
01:27Our charge.
01:28Our charge.
01:34Picature marks consistent with hanging.
01:38Um, security guard cut him down. Remove this.
01:41remove this. Make sure you get the car's DNA for elimination. Already happening. Good. And I want
01:47the PM today. All right. Pathology sunroof. That's one, Pete. Cheers. Hey, Kate. You all right? Yeah.
01:57God, that must have been a shocker. Yeah, it was. Don't look so worried. It's just for elimination
02:02purposes. You touch the body, okay? I couldn't see him. We're going to need a statement when
02:10you're feeling up to it. That's okay. All right? DS Casey there. He'll take all your details.
02:16All right? Ron? Yes, come. They're as vigilant as we are about suicide prevention. Yeah?
02:28No belts, no shoelaces, 15-minute checks on vulnerable prisoners. How did he get that cord in there?
02:36Could have smuggled him from prison. They'd have searched him.
02:40Well, look, Wes, you know, better than anyone, there's always a way. And it's not as if it's
02:46the first time he's tried to top himself. If he'd use the noose the first time as people
02:51he'd kill, he'd still be alive.
02:56Look, what if he didn't smuggle that cord in from prison? What if someone gave it to me?
03:10He'll be看看. You know, he'll be saying, I'll go.
03:25You know what?
04:35I saw you.
04:38Just leave me alone, okay?
04:40I don't need this now.
04:41More to the point, Tyler's brief saw you.
04:46Am I supposed to leave that out on my statement?
04:49Oh, Ron, any news, mate?
04:51Yeah, gov.
04:52Yeah, the CCTV system at the port is still down.
04:58So this is up and running, they'll send it over.
05:00All right, well, I want footage for the whole time Tyler was in that cell.
05:04No problem.
05:04Gov, Sam's supposed to be on rest days.
05:08He needs sending her.
05:10You are?
05:11Well, the truth is the trial's been pretty hard on him.
05:16Yeah, have you looked out here?
05:19I'm full staffed down and we've got a possible assisted suicide.
05:23Deaths in custody don't exactly do much for our popularity.
05:26Tyler was not in our custody.
05:28He was a prisoner in the biggest court in the country.
05:30If he, someone gave him the means to kill himself,
05:33all eyes are going to be on us to find out what went wrong.
05:35Yeah, but gov, if...
05:37Now, look, you find out who gave him that court
05:39and Sammy boy there can go play golf or get pissed
05:43or do whatever floats his boat.
05:44But until Tyler's killer's banged up in those cells
05:47and there's some case papers on my desk,
05:49he's working this, Ron.
05:50Ah, bottle of bubbly now.
05:59Our new prosecutor has finally arrived.
06:02I'm not stopping.
06:03Of course you are.
06:04Don't force her, Henry.
06:06She's got something better to do.
06:09Tyler's dead.
06:13How?
06:14He hung himself.
06:16I found him.
06:19Shit.
06:20Are you OK?
06:24I'd better go back to the office.
06:26The media are going to be all over this.
06:28I'll come with you.
06:29No, you take the afternoon
06:31and buy Kate's lunch.
06:35Keep an eye on her.
06:43Don't you feel even the slightest bit responsible?
06:47You could have accepted a plea to diminish responsibility
06:50and kept the whole thing out of court.
06:52You knew that Tyler was mentally ill.
06:54The court case tore him apart.
06:56The only people I feel any responsibility towards
06:59are the families whose loved ones Tyler murdered.
07:01It was manslaughter.
07:03The jury found on manslaughter,
07:05diminished responsibility.
07:06What do you want?
07:12Pint.
07:17What?
07:17Well, defence barristers usually opt for something more expensive.
07:20Are you forgetting I'm on your team now?
07:25Don't remind me.
07:26The court didn't give us justice.
07:28He was in the hospital for a few months.
07:30Yeah, I'm glad he's dead.
07:32Murdered my little boy and my wife.
07:35Murdered 15 innocent people.
07:37It's the state they should have hung in.
07:43Now I'm going to try and get on with my life.
07:47Although I pity the justice has been served.
07:53Death by asphyxiation
07:55with
07:57said item.
07:59All right.
08:01We were trying to work out
08:03how he got this into the cell.
08:05Do you think you could have smuggled it internally?
08:08I've retrieved all manner of things from anal cavities, Ronnie,
08:12but you're assuming it was suicide.
08:15It wasn't?
08:17I said asphyxiation.
08:19He had a helping hand.
08:22Curvy linear abrasions.
08:25He could have got those trying to pull himself free.
08:27Only if his hands were on back to front.
08:30If I'm fighting for my life,
08:33the nail marks are at the front
08:35and this way round.
08:37So,
08:38what are these bruises doing
08:41on the back of his neck?
08:45Play, you took
08:46thorough fingernail scrapings.
08:48Mm-hmm.
08:51So, what are you saying, Lily?
08:53You're certain Finn Tyler was murdered.
08:55A bruising on his back
08:58confirms it.
08:59The killer
09:00held him down with his knee,
09:02choked him from behind
09:03with the cord,
09:04scraping his neck,
09:05leaving nail marks,
09:07and then he strung him up.
09:09Textbook
09:10staged
09:11suicide.
09:12The in-cell security cameras
09:18weren't recording,
09:20but we managed to get some footage
09:21of the corridor approaching the cell.
09:25What about the door?
09:26Can you see anyone going in and out?
09:28No, just the approach.
09:30But this is the last cell in the block,
09:32so from this view,
09:34they can't be going anywhere else.
09:35Right.
09:35Now, the custody security officer,
09:39William Braxton,
09:40gave us a copy of the log.
09:43That's a list of everyone
09:44who signs in and out,
09:46briefs and security guards mostly.
09:49Last in was Tyler's brief with Ronnie.
09:52And before that?
09:54In the 15 minutes before,
09:55only two people were seen
09:57entering the block.
09:58One security guard
09:59who was coming on shift,
10:00but he didn't go anywhere near the cell.
10:02Only one person
10:04was seen approaching the cell
10:07in the 45 minutes
10:08before Tyler was found dead.
10:12So, who was it?
10:32Please, gov.
10:41No, look, I've got a DPS officer
10:42waiting to speak to him.
10:44Let me just speak to him first.
10:45He's the partner, man.
10:47It's against every protocol.
10:48He is either going to clam up
10:51or totally lose the plot,
10:52but I can get through to him.
10:54Okay, what was he doing
10:54in that cell, Ron?
10:57I don't know.
10:58It could be all manner of reasons.
11:00Give me one that doesn't implicate him
11:01in Tyler's murder.
11:04Just let me get in there with you.
11:05No, no, no, sorry.
11:06You're out.
11:15DS Casey,
11:17you were the last person
11:19seen entering the cell block.
11:21And you appear on CCTV
11:23approaching Tyler's cell
11:24immediately preceding his death.
11:28Can you explain
11:28what you were doing there?
11:30I went to get
11:30the proxy forms signed.
11:33We still had Tyler's
11:34personal effects
11:35from his arrest.
11:37But your partner,
11:38DS Brooks,
11:39had the forms
11:40in his possession.
11:41I didn't realise that.
11:42I thought I had them.
11:44Where?
11:49Excuse me?
11:50Where did you think
11:51they were
11:51in a briefcase,
11:55bag?
11:58You weren't carrying
11:59anything that might
12:00conceal the forms.
12:01Well, I wasn't carrying
12:02a noose
12:04either.
12:14I'm sorry.
12:15I thought the forms
12:16were in my jacket pocket.
12:18OK, so what did you do
12:19when you found out
12:20they weren't?
12:20I turned round
12:21and walked out.
12:25Ronnie was in reception
12:26with Tyler's brief.
12:31He can vouch for me.
12:36So,
12:36you never spoke to Tyler?
12:39No.
12:39No?
12:40Never opened the wicket?
12:42No.
12:42Well, you all know
12:45how you felt about Tyler.
12:46You must have been furious
12:47to go to hospital order.
12:50Yeah, well,
12:52we all were,
12:53weren't we?
12:54Well, we weren't all
12:55seen on CCTV
12:56approaching this cell.
13:01You were down there
13:02ten minutes.
13:02Don't take ten minutes
13:03if I know you haven't
13:04got the forms
13:04in your pocket.
13:07Am I under arrest?
13:08Not yet, no.
13:11But we would like you
13:12to continue helping us
13:13with our inquiries.
13:14I'm sure your Fed rep
13:15would urge you
13:16to cooperate.
13:17I don't really care
13:18what he thinks
13:19or you.
13:20DS Casey.
13:30Sam.
13:31Sam.
13:32DS Casey.
13:33If you don't answer
13:34these questions now,
13:35you're going to be
13:35answering them
13:36under arrest.
13:36All those people are dead
13:38and you are wasting
13:39our time on the man
13:40that killed them.
13:41You walk out now,
13:42you're making a big mistake.
13:43Do I look like
13:43I give a toss?
13:45Sam, just calm down.
13:46Tell the gov
13:47what you...
13:47Gov, you're not my gov.
13:48Do you think
13:49it's that easy?
13:50I held that boy
13:51in my arms.
13:53I haven't slept
13:55for months.
13:57Every time
13:57I close my eyes,
13:58I see that boy's face.
14:00I see his dad's face
14:02when I had to tell him
14:03that his son was dead.
14:07So, yes,
14:09I went down there
14:10to tell Tyler
14:12how that felt.
14:13All right?
14:14I went down there
14:15to try and make him
14:16feel that pain.
14:18but you know what?
14:21I couldn't do it
14:22because being a police officer
14:25came first.
14:31I swear to God, Ron,
14:36I swear to God,
14:37I turned around
14:37and I walked away.
14:39It was a very slow walk
14:40because you were off camera
14:41for ten minutes.
14:42DSKC,
14:48I'm suspending you
14:49pending further investigation.
14:52You can leave your warm car
14:53with me.
14:54Good.
14:55Good!
14:56Sam, wait.
15:11What?
15:11He thinks,
15:12you know what,
15:12he thinks I'm sort of nutcase.
15:14Yeah, but he doesn't know you.
15:16Yeah, well, you do.
15:17What do you think?
15:19Well, I think you've been through a lot.
15:20Oh, Ronnie.
15:21Sam!
15:25What were you doing
15:26for those ten minutes?
15:31Look, just take it easy.
15:34You've got a young lad
15:36that needs you.
15:36I know.
15:38Well,
15:38I can help you
15:40and I will help you
15:41but you've got to be honest with me.
15:43What did you do
15:43for those ten minutes?
15:47Come on.
15:48Sam,
15:50I wanted to go in there.
15:52I've already said
15:53I wanted to go in there
15:54and tell him what he'd done.
15:57How it felt
15:58to hold a dying child
15:59in my arms
16:00because of him.
16:04How it feels
16:05every time
16:06I kiss my boy goodbye
16:08all I can see
16:09is that kid's face
16:10dead
16:11in that train.
16:12What did you do?
16:25You want to know
16:27what I did
16:27for those ten minutes?
16:28Yes.
16:31I just sat down
16:32by that cell door
16:33and I cried
16:35like a baby.
16:35I cried like a baby.
16:42I'll have a look.
16:45Come on.
16:47Come on.
16:49I've seen many
16:50an officer
16:50with a look
16:50in their eyes.
16:51Don't worry about that.
16:53You're strong enough, son.
16:54You'll come through this.
17:02You're a good copper, Sam.
17:04No.
17:04You are?
17:05No, I'm not.
17:06You are.
17:06Just don't let
17:07all your good work
17:08end here.
17:09I need to know
17:13one thing.
17:14Do you see Tyler?
17:20I want to go.
17:22I swear, Ronnie.
17:23I swear.
17:25Well,
17:26no one went
17:27to his cell
17:27after you
17:28except for his brief.
17:29Found him.
17:32So Tyler
17:33must have already
17:33been dead
17:34when you went down there.
17:39You believe me,
17:42don't you?
17:45Yes.
17:46I believe you.
17:55Hello there,
17:55William.
17:58You think they
17:59did you some sign-off,
18:00didn't you?
18:01The office?
18:02I'd rather just
18:02keep working.
18:03Right.
18:05Well,
18:05I hope you don't mind.
18:07I just need
18:08to ask you
18:09a few more questions
18:09if that's okay.
18:10Go for it.
18:11Right.
18:12Well,
18:13we're just trying
18:14to establish
18:14time of death
18:15and
18:16just wanted
18:17to know
18:18how long
18:19Tyler
18:19was in the cell
18:20before he was found.
18:22They brought him
18:23down
18:23straight after
18:24sentencing,
18:24so
18:25an hour,
18:26maybe?
18:29Right.
18:31Because
18:31we've only seen
18:3245 minutes
18:33of CCTV footage.
18:35maybe it was
18:36more like
18:3745 minutes
18:38then.
18:39I wasn't
18:40clock watching.
18:44What are you
18:45having then?
18:46I'm not hungry.
18:49What this is
18:50supposed to be,
18:50you're welcome
18:51to the CPS lunch.
18:52Well,
18:53I don't feel
18:53much like
18:54celebrating.
18:56Second thought
18:57was about
18:57switching sides.
19:00My client
19:01just killed
19:02himself.
19:03The last
19:04killer on the
19:04streets.
19:05Are you sure
19:06you don't want
19:06to join the
19:07Bring Back
19:07Hanging Brigade?
19:08Of course not,
19:09but it's in such
19:10a stretch to see
19:11why so many
19:11people feel
19:12that way.
19:13It is for me.
19:15You know,
19:15if I'd been
19:16the one
19:16prosecuting
19:17Tyler,
19:18I'm not sure
19:19I'd sleep
19:19so well
19:20tonight.
19:21You really
19:22want me
19:22to feel
19:23guilty?
19:24Don't you?
19:25Not even
19:26the tiniest
19:27bit.
19:28A man
19:28took his
19:29own life.
19:29You were
19:30instrumental
19:30in the
19:31process.
19:31I was just
19:32doing my
19:32job.
19:33Yeah,
19:34but you
19:34aren't just
19:35your job,
19:36Jake.
19:38You're a
19:38human being
19:39too.
19:39No,
19:41there's plenty
19:41of people
19:41who disagree
19:42with you
19:42there.
19:45Do you
19:45ever open
19:46up?
19:48Do you
19:48ever just
19:48cut the
19:50bullshit
19:50and the
19:51wisecracks
19:51and just
19:52get real?
20:02Why
20:02aren't you
20:03at work?
20:04I have
20:05mom rest
20:05days.
20:06It's not a
20:07good time.
20:08It never is.
20:09Ben's busy.
20:10He's got
20:10homework to do.
20:11Well,
20:11I'll do it
20:12with him.
20:15He's seven
20:16years old.
20:16I mean,
20:17how hard
20:17can it
20:18be?
20:20Have you
20:20been
20:21drinking?
20:24No.
20:25Daddy!
20:27Hey,
20:27kid.
20:28Oh.
20:32How's
20:33my little
20:33squidge?
20:35Aye?
20:37Mm.
20:38Oh.
20:39Have you
20:40been all
20:40right?
20:41Yeah.
20:41Yeah?
20:41I want
20:44him back
20:44by 4.30.
20:47Thank
20:47you.
20:50Are we
20:51going to
20:51have a
20:51fun day?
20:52Yeah.
20:53Yeah?
20:56He got
20:57past the
20:57mob on
20:58the steps
20:58then.
20:59Well,
20:59I have
20:59the advantage.
21:01They have
21:01no clue
21:02who I am.
21:03Lucky
21:03you.
21:04Tabloids
21:04are blaming
21:05us for
21:06Tyler getting
21:06a hospital
21:07order.
21:08The
21:08broadsheets
21:09want my
21:09neck for
21:10driving a
21:10mentally ill
21:11defendant
21:11to
21:12suicide.
21:14Conwin.
21:14Well,
21:15maybe I can
21:15put your
21:15mind
21:15at rest,
21:16eh?
21:17No one
21:17drove
21:17Finn Tyler
21:18to
21:18suicide.
21:20He
21:20was
21:20murdered.
21:22You're
21:23sure?
21:29I
21:29don't know
21:29what's
21:30worse.
21:41Who's
21:41that
21:42kid?
21:43You.
21:44Me.
21:45You know,
21:45it's a
21:45long time
21:46since I've
21:46been in
21:47a uniform.
21:48But my
21:48teacher won't
21:49know you're
21:49a policeman
21:50if you
21:50don't have
21:51a uniform.
21:53Well,
21:53that's where
21:53your homework
21:54is.
21:55You've got
21:55to draw
21:55pictures of
21:56your dad's.
21:57No.
21:59We've got
21:59to draw
22:00pictures of
22:00our heroes.
22:01check the
22:10timings.
22:11Tyler was
22:12in his
22:12cell over
22:13an hour
22:13before he
22:14was found.
22:15Well,
22:15where's the
22:15missing 15
22:16minutes?
22:17I think
22:18that footage
22:19has been
22:19edited.
22:20I'll get
22:21the time
22:21code checked,
22:22see if there's
22:22any gaps or
22:23jumps.
22:24All right.
22:29You know
22:30I believe
22:30Sam's
22:31innocent,
22:31told you.
22:33You're
22:33loyal.
22:34I remember
22:34her.
22:36And I
22:36remember you
22:37when you
22:37used to
22:37pound the
22:38streets just
22:39to get
22:39your man.
22:40You loved
22:40it out
22:41there.
22:41You're
22:41the last
22:42person I
22:42thought
22:42would ever
22:43turn
22:43corporate.
22:43Bigger
22:44trade
22:44check,
22:44mate.
22:45You
22:45were never
22:46motivated
22:46by money,
22:48Wes.
22:51My team
22:52and me
22:52come back
22:53to London
22:53because
22:54we're doing
22:55IVF.
22:57Second
22:57round.
22:58you've got
23:01two girls,
23:01right?
23:02Hmm.
23:04I give
23:04all of a
23:04heart beat
23:05to be a
23:05dad.
23:05you're popular.
23:28Yeah,
23:29it's a curse.
23:30So who's
23:31Cara?
23:34It's going to be
23:35bags of fun
23:36sharing an office
23:37with you.
23:38Sorry,
23:38I'm dead
23:39nosy.
23:39Always
23:40I've been.
23:40Why are you
23:42swapping
23:43sides?
23:44I fancied
23:45a change.
23:47Your turn.
23:48Who's
23:48Cara?
23:49My mother's
23:50nurse.
23:50Your mum's
23:51ill.
23:52My mum's
23:52dead.
23:54Was it
23:55recent then?
23:56Last
23:56week.
23:58Shit.
24:00I'm
24:01sorry.
24:02Oh,
24:02don't
24:02be.
24:02She
24:03wasn't
24:03exactly
24:03warm
24:04and
24:04cuddly.
24:05What
24:05about
24:06when
24:06you
24:06were
24:06a
24:06kid?
24:07Why
24:07are you
24:07joining
24:08the
24:08CPS?
24:09Really?
24:10I'm
24:11bored
24:11of
24:12all
24:12the
24:12fake
24:12whining
24:13and
24:13dining
24:14with
24:14solicitors
24:14touting
24:15for
24:15business.
24:16I'd
24:17rather
24:17spend
24:17me
24:17Friday
24:18nights
24:18with
24:18a
24:18DVD
24:19and
24:19a
24:19Chinese.
24:20No.
24:20You
24:20don't
24:21spend
24:21six
24:22years
24:22choosing
24:23only
24:23to
24:23defend
24:24and
24:24wake
24:25up
24:25one
24:25day
24:25and
24:26become
24:26a
24:26prosecutor.
24:28Sticky
24:28toffee
24:29pudding
24:29and
24:30hot
24:31chocolate
24:31in
24:32aid
24:32of
24:32Henry's
24:33credit
24:33card.
24:40Jake
24:56Thorne's
24:56phone.
24:56Hello?
24:57Hello?
25:02See,
25:03it's one of
25:03us.
25:04I
25:07heard.
25:08Would you
25:09let me
25:09not come
25:09in?
25:17Hello?
25:19Oh,
25:19hi,
25:20Ange.
25:20Yep.
25:21I'll be
25:21there.
25:22I
25:30wish
25:31you
25:32could
25:32come
25:32back
25:32home.
25:36I
25:37know,
25:37kid.
25:39You
25:40too.
25:41Mm-hmm.
25:43I
25:44never
25:44got
25:44scared
25:45of
25:45monsters
25:45when
25:46you
25:46lived
25:46with
25:47us.
25:47Monsters?
25:49Are you
25:49scared
25:49of
25:50monsters
25:50now?
25:51At
25:52night,
25:52I
25:52am.
25:54I'll
25:55tell you
25:55a secret,
25:56shall I?
25:57You
25:58see,
25:58grown-ups,
25:59they,
25:59uh,
25:59they make
26:00up stories
26:01about
26:01monsters,
26:02so they'll
26:03scare
26:03children into
26:04doing what
26:05they're
26:05told.
26:06But
26:07they're
26:07not real.
26:09See,
26:09real monsters,
26:10they look
26:11like us.
26:13They're
26:13human.
26:15They
26:16don't
26:16hide
26:17underneath
26:17the
26:18bed
26:18or
26:18lurking
26:24in the
26:24dark.
26:25They're,
26:25um,
26:27they're
26:29out
26:29there.
26:31Or
26:32in here.
26:40But it's
26:40daddy's
26:41job to
26:41catch them
26:42and lock
26:42them up.
26:43Yeah?
26:43I said
26:484.30.
26:50I knew I
26:50couldn't trust
26:51you.
26:51Ah,
26:53Cathy,
26:53I'm sorry,
26:54I just,
26:54I'd lost track of
26:55time.
26:56That's the last
26:56time,
26:57Sam.
26:57One weekend
26:58a month from
26:59now on.
27:00You're bringing
27:00about one
27:01second late
27:01and you'll
27:02lose that
27:02too.
27:03Come on.
27:06Bye,
27:06dad.
27:06You have
27:19no right
27:19to answer
27:20my phone.
27:21I'm
27:21sorry.
27:22Did you
27:24check my
27:24text too?
27:26Wropping
27:26through my
27:26coat pockets
27:27maybe?
27:27Don't be
27:28daft.
27:29I can't
27:30work with
27:30someone I
27:30can't
27:31trust.
27:31You can
27:32trust me,
27:33you can.
27:35Look,
27:35your mum's
27:35nurse,
27:36she just
27:36wanted
27:36to make
27:37sure
27:37you'll
27:37be at
27:37the
27:37funeral
27:38tomorrow.
27:39She
27:39told
27:39you?
27:40She
27:41just
27:41came
27:41out
27:41with
27:41it.
27:42I
27:42think
27:42she
27:42thought
27:42I
27:42was
27:43your
27:43girlfriend.
27:45I'm not
27:46even having
27:46this
27:47conversation
27:47with you.
27:54There's
27:5515 minutes
27:56and 32
27:56seconds
27:57missing.
27:58They're all
27:58in one
27:59block.
27:59That's
28:00the odd
28:00thing,
28:00it's in
28:00two
28:01different
28:01sections.
28:02The
28:02first is
28:0310 minutes
28:03after Finn
28:04Tyler arrived
28:04in the
28:05cell.
28:05Six
28:06minutes
28:06missing
28:06there.
28:07That's
28:07long
28:07enough.
28:08And 11
28:09minutes
28:09missing
28:09immediately
28:10before Sam
28:11arrived.
28:12All that
28:12clear is
28:13Sam's name.
28:14So who
28:14could have
28:15tampered with
28:15the footage?
28:19There's
28:19whole sections
28:21missing.
28:21thing.
28:24I
28:25passed
28:25it
28:25on.
28:25That's
28:25all I
28:26did.
28:27Is the
28:28log
28:28accurate?
28:29Yeah.
28:30I'm a bit
28:30OCD about
28:31it.
28:33No one
28:33gets past
28:34me without
28:34signing in.
28:35What?
28:37Well,
28:38someone went
28:39into Tyler's
28:40cell in those
28:41missing minutes
28:41and I think
28:42that someone
28:43killed him.
28:45I thought
28:45it was
28:45suicide.
28:47Murder.
28:47See,
28:51William,
28:51if someone
28:52did go
28:53into that
28:53cell,
28:55I think
28:59that footage
28:59was tampered
29:00with.
29:02What do you
29:02think?
29:04A lot of
29:05angry people
29:05in that
29:06court yesterday,
29:06weren't there?
29:08Eh?
29:08maybe you
29:11turned a
29:11blind eye.
29:12They
29:12wouldn't
29:12blame you.
29:13Maybe you
29:14let someone
29:14into Tyler's
29:15cell.
29:20What do you
29:20say?
29:23Look,
29:23if I'd
29:23known what
29:24he was
29:24going to
29:24do...
29:27Go on.
29:30He was
29:30only in
29:30there a few
29:31minutes.
29:35Who was?
29:38Gavin Dale?
29:52Yeah,
29:52what?
29:53I'm arresting
29:53you in
29:54the suspicion
29:54of the murder
29:55of Finn
29:55Tyler.
29:56He didn't
29:56have to say
29:56anything,
29:57but it
29:57may harm
29:57your defence.
29:58If you
29:58do not
29:58mention
29:59when you
29:59question
29:59something
30:00which
30:00should
30:00later
30:00rely on
30:01in court,
30:01everything
30:01you do
30:02say
30:02may be
30:03used
30:03in
30:03evidence.
30:07If you
30:07want to
30:07be sorry
30:08he's dead,
30:10you'll have
30:10a long
30:10wait.
30:11The security
30:12guard told us
30:13he let you
30:13into Tyler's
30:14cell.
30:15He told
30:16you.
30:20Why did
30:21you go
30:21into his
30:22cell,
30:22Mr.
30:22Dale?
30:25I wanted
30:26Tyler to
30:27look me
30:27in the
30:27eye.
30:30I wanted
30:31him to
30:31say he
30:31was sorry
30:32for killing
30:33my wife
30:34and my
30:34son.
30:36And
30:36did he?
30:37too busy
30:40feeling
30:40sorry
30:41for
30:41himself.
30:44And
30:44did that
30:45make
30:45you
30:45angry?
30:48I was
30:49out in
30:49Africa
30:49and
30:49it's
30:49down
30:49six
30:50months.
30:52I
30:53kept
30:53the picture
30:53of my
30:54wife
30:54and my
30:54boy
30:54with me
30:55the
30:55whole
30:55time.
30:59It's
30:59the only
30:59thing
31:00that kept
31:00me
31:00going.
31:04The
31:05thought
31:05of getting
31:05back to
31:06them.
31:08He must
31:08have hated
31:09Finn
31:09Tyler then,
31:10taking that
31:11away from
31:11you.
31:14Is that
31:15why you
31:15killed him?
31:18I never
31:18killed him.
31:21So what did
31:22you do?
31:23Just talk to
31:23him?
31:24Yeah.
31:26Told him I
31:26hoped he
31:27rotting in the
31:27hospital.
31:30Told him
31:31even if
31:31you got
31:31out next
31:32week.
31:32You'd
31:33have to
31:33live
31:33before he
31:33done.
31:35And
31:35then you
31:36left?
31:37Yeah.
31:39So,
31:40um,
31:41how come
31:43the cord
31:44from your
31:44jacket
31:44ended up
31:45around
31:45Tyler's
31:46neck?
31:49We're having
31:50it tested.
31:52We both
31:53know
31:53those tests
31:55are going
31:55to show
31:55the cord
31:57that choked
31:58Finn
31:58Tyler is
31:59the same
31:59cord
32:00missing
32:00from
32:00your
32:00jacket.
32:01So let
32:01me ask
32:01you
32:01again,
32:03how did
32:03the cord
32:04from your
32:04jacket
32:04end up
32:05around
32:05Tyler's
32:06neck?
32:10I gave
32:11it to him
32:11and put
32:13in his
32:13hands.
32:15I told
32:16him to do
32:16the right
32:17thing,
32:17but then
32:18I left.
32:19So you
32:19want to
32:19charge me
32:20for giving
32:20him the
32:20means to
32:21kill
32:21himself,
32:21then you
32:22go ahead,
32:22but I'm
32:22glad he
32:23did it.
32:27Because
32:27now Oaknaw has
32:28some sort
32:29of peace.
32:30All
32:31need
32:32the rest
32:33of the
32:33families.
32:35The
32:36victims
32:36group.
32:44The way
32:45he talked
32:45about
32:45those
32:46other
32:46families,
32:47collectively
32:48having some
32:49sort of peace
32:50now Tyler's
32:50dead.
32:51Like he
32:51did it
32:51for them?
32:52Like they
32:52did it
32:53together.
32:54How many
32:54in that
32:55victims
32:55group?
32:56About
32:5615.
32:57they were
32:58after
32:58compensation
32:59from the
33:00train
33:00company,
33:01had the
33:01same
33:01solicitor.
33:02Were they
33:03met up
33:03regularly?
33:04I believe
33:04so,
33:05yeah.
33:05It became
33:05a sort
33:06of support
33:07group,
33:08you know.
33:09Few of
33:09them were
33:09interviewed
33:10after Tyler's
33:11death.
33:11They seemed
33:12pretty happy
33:12about it.
33:13You bet
33:13they were.
33:14Me,
33:14you're nearly
33:14one of them
33:15had motive.
33:16Maybe
33:17Dale wasn't
33:17in this
33:18alone.
33:22Knock,
33:22knock.
33:24Morning.
33:24I take
33:31it this
33:32one's
33:32mine?
33:33Unfortunately.
33:35Wow,
33:36this is
33:37going to be
33:37a lot of
33:38fun if
33:38you're
33:38planning on
33:39holding a
33:39grudge.
33:40I don't
33:40hold grudges,
33:41but I do
33:42value my
33:42privacy.
33:45Duly
33:45noted.
33:46Lesson
33:46learned.
33:49I can
33:49apologise
33:50again if
33:51it would
33:51help.
33:55OK.
34:01What
34:02are you
34:02doing here
34:02anyway?
34:03Shouldn't
34:03you be
34:04at your
34:04mum's
34:04funeral?
34:06I'm
34:07not
34:07going.
34:09Not
34:09that it's
34:10any of
34:10your
34:10business.
34:11gums too
34:21careful.
34:29Mate,
34:30I can get
34:31another one
34:31of these
34:32when you're
34:32ready.
34:32it.
34:39Well,
34:40I don't
34:40want to
34:41hassle
34:41you,
34:41son.
34:41I've
34:42already
34:42left
34:42two
34:42messages,
34:43so just
34:43give us
34:44a call
34:44when you
34:45get this,
34:45will you?
34:46OK,
34:47cheers.
34:49Emma?
34:54What do you
34:55want?
34:58I was in
34:58the area,
34:59so,
34:59erm,
35:01just give me
35:02five minutes,
35:03please.
35:06All right.
35:21Give it a
35:21kick.
35:23We had the
35:23same one at
35:24me last
35:24chambers.
35:27Let me
35:28have a go.
35:29Come on.
35:30Come on.
35:30Come on.
35:43We could
35:44go out
35:44for coffee.
35:46On
35:46me.
35:47A peace
35:47offering.
35:48You can
35:49show me
35:49where's
35:49good round
35:50here.
35:52One
35:53condition.
35:53Name
35:54it.
35:55We
35:55don't
35:55talk
35:55about
35:56me.
35:56Fine.
35:58I'm
35:59sure you're
35:59dying to
35:59find out
36:00all about
36:00me
36:00anyway.
36:02So how'd
36:03you find
36:03me?
36:04Well,
36:05your sister.
36:06Sarah said
36:07she was back
36:08in touch
36:08with you.
36:09She had no
36:10right to tell
36:11you where I
36:11worked.
36:13I'm glad
36:13she did,
36:14eh?
36:14me.
36:17Anyway,
36:18what about
36:19that little
36:19boy over
36:20there?
36:20Hey,
36:21Matthew,
36:21he's a
36:21cracker,
36:22isn't he?
36:22Sarah was
36:23the lucky
36:24one.
36:24Got old,
36:25didn't she?
36:26Husband,
36:26kid,
36:28cozy
36:29relationship
36:29with her
36:30dad.
36:31You can
36:31have that
36:32as well,
36:32Emma,
36:32can't you?
36:34Sarah had
36:35the luxury
36:35of knowing
36:36you before
36:36the drinking.
36:37She tells me
36:41you're single.
36:42Why would
36:43I want to
36:43get hooked
36:44up?
36:45Follow the
36:45shining example
36:46you and
36:46Mum set?
36:47I don't know,
36:48kids maybe?
36:50It worked
36:50for you.
36:54Emma,
36:55I'm sorry,
36:57I really am.
36:58Can we
36:58start the
36:58game,
36:59please?
37:00Huh?
37:01Come on,
37:02eh?
37:06What made
37:07you stop
37:07drinking?
37:08Well,
37:11what made
37:12me stop?
37:12Well,
37:13what got
37:14me started?
37:15That's a
37:16better story.
37:17I just
37:18assumed it
37:19was me.
37:20No,
37:21absolutely
37:21not.
37:22Of course
37:22not.
37:22God.
37:24I was
37:24four when
37:25you staggered
37:26out of my
37:27life.
37:28What's a
37:28four-year-old
37:29supposed to
37:29think?
37:34Why?
37:38What's a
37:3824-year-old
37:39think?
37:42She
37:42remembered.
37:47Homerton
37:48Hospital,
37:503.22
37:51a.m.
37:52Some date
37:53you never
37:54forget.
37:55You forgot
37:56the last
37:57eight of
37:57them.
37:58Well,
37:59I didn't
38:01forget,
38:01though.
38:02I just
38:03missed out.
38:04I know
38:04that I'm
38:05something.
38:05You could
38:06have got
38:06in touch
38:07before.
38:12You
38:12never
38:12stop
38:13loving
38:13your
38:13children,
38:14you
38:14know.
38:16Even
38:16though
38:17sometimes
38:17you have
38:20to walk
38:20away,
38:22you never
38:23stop loving
38:24your
38:24children.
38:28Some
38:28people
38:29just react
38:30differently.
38:31I mean,
38:31you know,
38:35the
38:36situation
38:36and
38:36everything.
38:40I'm
38:40sorry.
38:42Hello?
38:46Hi,
38:47Wes.
38:48Yeah.
38:51Yeah,
38:51okay.
38:52Bye-bye.
38:57I'm
38:58sorry.
38:58I've
38:58got to
38:59go.
39:00If it
39:00wasn't the
39:01drink,
39:01it was
39:01the
39:01job.
39:02let me
39:06take you
39:06out for
39:06dinner
39:07tonight,
39:07Emma,
39:08eh?
39:10We can
39:11go to
39:11that little
39:12Italian I
39:13used to
39:13take you
39:13and Sarah
39:14to for
39:14your
39:14birthdays.
39:15You know,
39:16it'd be like
39:16old times.
39:18Only without
39:18the booze and
39:19the arguments.
39:22Eight o'clock.
39:23Let me make it up
39:24to you,
39:24please.
39:27Seven.
39:28I've got plans
39:29with my friends
39:30at eight.
39:30Great,
39:31seven.
39:31That'd be
39:32brilliant.
39:32Yeah.
39:36I get that
39:37you don't like
39:37talking about
39:38family stuff,
39:39but just
39:39answer me
39:40one question.
39:41I'd really
39:41rather not.
39:42I'll never
39:42ask another
39:43thing about
39:43your personal
39:44life,
39:44hand on
39:45heart.
39:45I don't
39:45know,
39:46I believe
39:46you.
39:47Don't
39:48you think
39:48you owe
39:48it to
39:49your mum
39:49to be
39:49there
39:50today?
39:50Owe
39:51her?
39:53I'm
39:53grateful
39:53she gave
39:54birth to
39:54me and
39:55that's
39:55where it
39:55ends.
39:56You
39:57must have
39:57one happy
39:58memory.
39:58one time
40:00when things
40:00were good
40:01with her.
40:01Don't you
40:02ever give
40:02up?
40:02What about
40:03when you
40:03were little?
40:04I'd love
40:04to tell you
40:05that she
40:05nursed me
40:06through chicken
40:06pox and
40:07chibi at
40:07football matches,
40:08but it never
40:09happened.
40:09I had this
40:12client who
40:12had a brain
40:13tumour and
40:14it was like
40:15his whole
40:15personality
40:16changed
40:17overnight.
40:18He was
40:19this loving
40:20family man
40:21one minute
40:21and the
40:22next he's
40:23gambling,
40:24drinking,
40:25defrauding
40:26his business
40:26partners,
40:27sleeping with
40:27prostitutes.
40:30When they
40:30found the
40:31tumour and
40:31took it
40:32out, he
40:32was back
40:33to his
40:33old self.
40:34He couldn't
40:35believe the
40:35things he'd
40:36done.
40:37I got him
40:38off,
40:38obviously.
40:39maybe your
40:43mum's tumour
40:43was always
40:44there, making
40:46her the way
40:46she was, and
40:48it turned
40:48into cancer
40:49later.
40:53Anyway, it's
40:54good of you
40:55to take care
40:55of her like
40:56you did, seeing
40:56as you never
40:57got on.
40:58I visited
40:59her every
41:01fortnight.
41:02So you do
41:02have a heart?
41:03She's dead.
41:05She won't
41:06know if I'm
41:06there or not.
41:07But you
41:10will.
41:12One day you
41:13might regret it.
41:15I doubt
41:15that.
41:18Anyway, it's
41:20too late.
41:20The funeral's
41:21over.
41:23It's never
41:23too late.
41:24uniform spoken to
41:36everyone in the
41:37victim support
41:38group is set
41:39for David
41:40Manning.
41:41He moved
41:42abroad with his
41:42son after his
41:43wife died in the
41:44crash.
41:44Chica.
41:45We've got a
41:45number for him.
41:46Well, we have
41:47left messages, but
41:48it's his stepson
41:49Billy's been
41:50attending the
41:50group on his
41:51behalf.
41:51Oh, you'd
41:52think this
41:52Billy could be
41:53involved.
41:54Well, pretty
41:54much everyone
41:55in uniform spoke
41:56to mention that
41:57Gavin and
41:57Billy were
41:58close.
41:58They were
41:58self-appointed
41:59leaders of the
42:00group, so they
42:01organised all the
42:02meetings, spurring the
42:03others on that
42:04sort of stuff, and
42:04they always went
42:05for a drink
42:05together afterwards.
42:06Well, maybe they
42:07were just offering
42:07each other support,
42:08mate.
42:09And maybe they
42:10had the biggest
42:11grievance.
42:12Don't forget,
42:12Gavin lost his
42:13wife and son in
42:14that crash, and
42:14Billy lost his
42:15mum.
42:15Oh, lots of
42:16people lost their
42:17parent.
42:18Yeah, but Eva
42:19Manning spent the
42:20last five years
42:21fighting cancer.
42:22No task.
42:23She got the
42:23all-clear three
42:24days before the
42:25crash.
42:27All right, well,
42:28let's get this
42:28Billy in,
42:29interview him.
42:30Problem is, we
42:31can't find any
42:32records for a
42:33Billy Manning,
42:34and he's not
42:34answering the
42:35number that the
42:35solicitor gave us,
42:37so...
42:37Oh, well, maybe
42:38Gavin Dale knows
42:39where we can find
42:40him.
42:40He's still in custody.
42:41Plenty of time
42:42left on the clock.
42:43We'll have a go
42:44with him.
42:44Gov, Intel's
42:45finished going
42:46through Gavin Dale's
42:47phone data.
42:48There's a long
42:49text conversation
42:50with Billy.
42:52Number's been
42:52investigated, but
42:54it came from
42:54an unregistered
42:55pay-as-you-go.
42:56The conversation
42:57mainly talks about
42:58meeting up, sent
42:59over the past few
43:00months, but on
43:01the day Tyler
43:02died, Billy sent
43:03that message to
43:05Gavin Dale's phone.
43:06There's no going
43:07back, it's down
43:08to you.
43:09Some kind of
43:10pact.
43:12And Gavin Dale's
43:13the chosen one.
43:18Tell us where
43:19Billy Manning is.
43:21I don't know.
43:22Come on, you're a
43:23friend of his.
43:24We only made the
43:25group.
43:27Well, you don't
43:27know where he
43:27lives, where he
43:28works.
43:31No.
43:32You did have some
43:33sort of pact with
43:34him.
43:34We know that, that
43:36you planned Tyler's
43:37death.
43:39All we ever wanted
43:40was justice.
43:42And the court never
43:43gave you that, right?
43:46So what, you and
43:47Billy just decided to
43:48get justice of your
43:49own?
43:50We just wanted him
43:51to do the right
43:52thing.
43:53To kill himself.
43:54Tyler said he
43:56wanted to die.
43:58He said that's why
43:59he caused the
44:00crash.
44:00Okay, so basically
44:01what you're telling
44:01us is that you
44:02gave him the means
44:04to kill himself, he
44:05wouldn't do it, so
44:05you gave him a
44:06helping hand.
44:06I told you the
44:07truth.
44:09I told him if you
44:10had any kind of
44:10conscience, he'd do
44:11the right thing.
44:13And then I gave him
44:14a cord for my
44:14jacket.
44:16Hmm, well, you
44:19see, that's not
44:19what the bruising on
44:21Tyler's back tells
44:22us.
44:22That tells us that
44:24his killer put
44:26their knee into
44:27his back, held
44:28him down, and
44:29then choked him
44:30to death.
44:32But Tyler killed
44:33himself.
44:35His killer then
44:38forced his hands
44:39away when Tyler
44:40tried to free
44:41himself, struggling
44:42for air and
44:43fighting for his
44:44life.
44:45No, I did.
44:46Then his killer
44:47strung him up to
44:49make it look like
44:50suicide.
44:50I swear to God,
44:51I left him alive.
44:52You've admitted
44:53being in Tyler's
44:55cell.
44:56You also admitted
44:57giving him the
44:58cord from your
44:59jacket that was
45:01used to strangle
45:01him.
45:02Well, whoever
45:04tied the knots in
45:05that cord, they
45:07very likely left
45:09their DNA under
45:09those knots.
45:11We're going to have
45:12the results back
45:13soon.
45:13Is it going to be
45:14your DNA we find
45:15under those knots,
45:15Gavin?
45:17Because if it is,
45:22Gavin, you're
45:27looking at life.
45:27we all talked
45:38about it.
45:40What we do is
45:41Tyler didn't get
45:42life.
45:44But the others,
45:45they will all
45:45talk.
45:50Only me and
45:51Billy really cared
45:52to be true
45:53straws.
45:54To decide which
45:54one he would
45:55talk him into
45:58killing himself.
46:00I drew the
46:01short straw.
46:02I made the
46:03cord into a
46:04noose.
46:04I did that.
46:05My DNA is
46:05going to be
46:06under those
46:06knots.
46:07But I swear
46:08to God,
46:09that's all I did.
46:10So you're
46:11saying that
46:12Billy did the
46:12rest of it?
46:12He must have
46:13done, but I
46:14didn't know.
46:14I swear,
46:16Billy told me
46:17Tyler killed
46:18himself.
46:20Can't find any
46:21record of
46:21Billy Manning.
46:24Can you help us
46:24out, Gavin?
46:26Manning's his
46:27mum's name.
46:28All right.
46:29Started using
46:30after she died.
46:31Okay, so what's
46:31his real name?
46:37It's Braxton.
46:39William Braxton.
46:41He's gone away
46:42tonight.
46:44Where?
46:46Come on, Gavin.
46:47platform three.
47:01It's across
47:01the walkway.
47:02Steve, stay here,
47:04please.
47:04And you go.
47:05Exit.
47:06Exit.
47:15That's him, Ron,
47:16over there.
47:17Right.
47:25Where's I've got
47:26this?
47:39Going away,
47:40Billy?
47:40New start.
47:47I'll train
47:48to you any
47:48minute.
47:52Do you want
47:52to talk,
47:53son?
47:55I can't
47:56miss it.
48:02I know your mum
48:03died in that
48:03crash.
48:03I really
48:17can't do this
48:18now.
48:22I know you're
48:22set dead and
48:23your brother moved
48:25abroad,
48:25didn't they?
48:28That only left you
48:29and you must have
48:30thought you was the
48:31only one who cared
48:32for your mum,
48:32eh?
48:34They wanted to put
48:35it all behind
48:36them.
48:38But I couldn't
48:39leave her.
48:44You really
48:44loved her,
48:45didn't you?
48:45she was the only
48:53person who ever got
48:54me.
48:59I understand she was a bit
49:00of a hero.
49:04All the time she had
49:05cancer.
49:10She was thinking what
49:12she could do to help
49:13others.
49:15What race she could run,
49:17how much money she could
49:18raise.
49:21She was the most
49:22helpless person I ever
49:23knew.
49:27But Tyler,
49:28he was the opposite,
49:31wasn't he?
49:33So selfish.
49:35He didn't care who
49:36we hurt.
49:41Did you go into
49:42Tyler's cell,
49:42Billy?
49:50The court was on
49:51the floor.
49:52He should have done it
49:58himself.
50:00But he didn't have the
50:01balls.
50:03You did,
50:04though, eh?
50:05I had to.
50:10For mum.
50:12For Gavin's little
50:14boy.
50:16For all the other
50:17people that Jane
50:18had been killed,
50:19he was going to get
50:22away with it.
50:23A few months in
50:24hospital chatting
50:25about his feelings.
50:28How's that justice?
50:32I picked up the
50:33court.
50:38I said,
50:38this is for Eva
50:41Manning.
50:47Then I got my mum
50:48justice.
50:58Where's your luggage,
50:59Billy?
51:03Oh,
51:03no!
51:04No!
51:04No!
51:04No!
51:04No!
51:04No!
51:04No!
51:04No!
51:04No!
51:04No!
51:04No!
51:04No!
51:05No!
51:05No!
51:05No!
51:05No!
51:06No!
51:06No!
51:06No!
51:07No!
51:07No!
51:07No!
51:07No!
51:07No!
51:08No!
51:08No!
51:08No!
51:09No!
51:09No!
51:09No!
51:10No!
51:10No!
51:11No!
51:19You all right, son?
51:23I've come.
51:36Hello?
51:37all right
51:41i'm on my way no no no i'm on my
51:46all right uh yeah i've um where's i've got i've got to do this
51:52it's been a funny old day today i spent it trying to find out why a man was murdered
52:02because the man the man killed a lot of innocent people and we did our best to get justice for the
52:10families but the court decided he wasn't really responsible mate can i get another one were you
52:18ready please no i thought people on the news cheering because the guy was dead and saying
52:26that the death penalty should be brought back for people like him one of his victims even took
52:32justice into his own hands and now he's gonna spend the rest of his life in prison paying for it
52:39there's people saying that justice has been done i don't know
52:51i can't stop thinking of that little girl growing up without a dad
52:59emma i'm
53:03i'm sorry i've let you down
53:11and i'd really like to try again honest
53:17i hope you're listening
53:23love you
53:25dad
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