Law & Order UK Season 3 Episode 4 Confession
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00:00Prosecutors who prosecute the offenders, these are their stories.
00:06I can see them now. Over here!
00:09Over here.
00:16We were jogging past and we heard it go off.
00:19You sure it was a gunshot?
00:20Oh, we thought it was a firework at first, but...
00:24It's over there.
00:26Look, there's an ambulance on its way.
00:28Did you see anyone and off?
00:30No, no, no. It was all over by the time we got here.
00:32Okay, you wait here.
00:45Sarge? Everything okay?
00:49Sarge?
00:52Sarge?
00:58Hotel Yankee from 28. Urgent message. Over.
01:06Ambulance required urgently to Battersea Park.
01:09Victim is a police officer.
01:11Repeat, a police officer has been shot.
01:13Is it him?
01:25Yeah.
01:27PS, Peter Galvey.
01:29Vice.
01:30He died before the ambulance got here.
01:32There was nothing we could do.
01:33His car's at the south exit.
01:35Forensics going through it.
01:36Right, who was first on the scene?
01:37Uh, we were.
01:39Okay.
01:39A couple out running heard the shot.
01:41Five minutes later, they see what looks like a body.
01:43Didn't want to get too close, so they called us.
01:45Okay. You okay?
01:47Yeah, yeah.
01:48Yeah, it's his first death.
01:50Doesn't help this one of us.
01:51No.
01:52No, you're up for giving the statements, though, guys.
01:54All right.
01:55Have a word with your chaps.
01:57Just get them to ask anyone and everyone if they've seen or heard anything at all.
02:01Okay?
02:03They were together in CID, weren't they?
02:06Yeah.
02:07Went through the academy together.
02:08Garvey's his oldest mate.
02:11Oh.
02:13One shot on the side.
02:16GSR on his face.
02:17They've walked up to him, shot him, so Pete even knows the shooter.
02:21Oh, you didn't see it coming.
02:23Yeah.
02:29Here he is.
02:33Hey, Matt.
02:36Matt, please, son.
02:38Just a sec.
02:40You don't want to see him, mate.
02:42Matt, Matt.
02:43You're not going to be Matt.
02:44Sorry, you can't go through.
02:45Matt.
02:49Oh, God.
02:53Come on, son.
02:54Come away.
02:55Come away.
02:55Come on.
02:56Come on.
02:56Come on.
03:18Come on.
03:19Come on.
04:50We just go to their grands every Wednesday after school, so then I close up the shop and I go and collect them, and if he turns up, then we have teeth.
05:01And today he didn't show.
05:04You have to know it on the fridge.
05:10Working late, love, don't wait up.
05:12It's 13 years.
05:17I still can't go to bed on my own.
05:23I sleep down here sometimes when he's on night, so...
05:26Mummy?
05:26Hey, Danny.
05:29Mate.
05:31How's my little striker?
05:35What are you doing up this late?
05:37Where's Daddy?
05:38Listen, mate, why don't we get you back to bed?
05:41It's late, right?
05:43You can show me any new toys that you've got.
05:46How could I tell them?
05:59This morning, did Pete mention anything about the day tonight or the case he was working on?
06:08Talk to Jack Barr, he'll know.
06:14Pete wasn't working last night.
06:17Well, he was off duty.
06:19You're sure?
06:20I bet his duty stayed myself.
06:22Well, any idea who he was meeting?
06:24Could be anybody, couldn't it?
06:26Well, whoever it was, they weren't meeting for tea and scones, were they?
06:30That's the jobs he was working on, there'll be a list of names as long as me arm in there.
06:36Look, I didn't want to bother his family last night.
06:39I should go and see Matt and the boys.
06:43No name springs to mind, Jack.
06:46A villain he'd Nick, maybe, or a Tom he was friendly with?
06:52Friendly with?
06:54He's a family man.
06:56You, of all people, know that.
06:58Yeah, we're just doing our jobs, Jack.
07:00Of course.
07:02A little bit shaken, I thought.
07:04I'd be shaken too.
07:06I mean, God forbid Matt, he got himself shot.
07:10I'd be out there straight away looking for the person who did it and trying to string him up myself.
07:15You think I know who did this?
07:17I don't know what to think, Jack.
07:20How about you?
07:21How about you?
07:29I was hoping to track it down before anyone noticed it was missing.
07:33What?
07:34Noticed what was missing?
07:35The other people's meeting, it was serious.
07:38He went to hold up.
07:39Garvey illegally removed a firearm from the property store.
07:48There was no gun found at the crime scene.
07:51If he went there with a weapon, Garvey had good reason.
07:54I don't give a toss what reason he had.
07:56Nor will the press when some kid gets killed by this gun.
08:00Sorry, Matt.
08:01Uniform talked to a courier who said she saw two men arguing outside the park.
08:09Yeah.
08:09Well, there were no prints left in Pete's car, so we can assume they carried the argument on inside the park.
08:16Right?
08:16Right.
08:16They're at the scene.
08:17They argue, it gets out of hand.
08:21Pete pulls the gun, they struggle, Pete gets shot.
08:23That's it.
08:24And the killer pockets the gun because his fingerprints are all over it.
08:28Precisely.
08:29Are there any suspects from his active cases?
08:32No.
08:32They've either got alibis or they're banged up on remand.
08:37Robert, overtime.
08:39So why go armed?
08:42Is there any suggestion that Garvey could be dirty?
08:45No, no, Pete's as straight as they come, Gav.
08:48Matt, only two reasons you go tooled up to an off-the-box mate.
08:52It's either to protect yourself or to kill the other fella.
08:57Either way, mate, it's not very clever, is it?
08:58Which bit don't you get?
08:59Work and family?
09:01No, no.
09:02That was Pete's life.
09:03No, no, look, Matt, I get it.
09:05You've just got to understand, someone has to ask all the tough questions.
09:09I'm just right, Matt.
09:11If this is too hard for you, I can always find someone else who can handle it.
09:14Not alone.
09:15I'm fine.
09:17You've checked his active cases.
09:19Go through his closed cases.
09:22Right.
09:25Has he talked at all since this started?
09:29Well, I'm keeping an eye on him.
09:32Thanks, Ron.
09:36Forensics report.
09:37Hallelujah.
09:38What have we got?
09:39Nothing.
09:40No shell casing, no bullet, nothing.
09:43Our killer knows how to clean a crime scene.
09:49What?
09:50He's dead?
09:50I haven't seen Garvey in years.
09:53I was at home on Wednesday night.
09:54Your supervisor says you were supposed to be working on Wednesday night, Tommy.
09:59Yeah, well, I called in sick.
10:01That ain't a crime, is it, lads?
10:03No, but you're an ex-copper who thought helping himself to cope from drug busts wasn't a crime either,
10:08so you'll forgive our scepticism.
10:09That was years ago.
10:11What, and that's enough time to forget about a grudge, is it?
10:14Those charges were dropped.
10:16Nah, P.S. Garvey's case fell through.
10:19Doesn't mean you're innocent.
10:21Means you got away with it.
10:22You know the score, Tommy.
10:23We're not going to go away, are we?
10:27All right, look.
10:28I wasn't sick and I wasn't at home.
10:30I was dipping one of the girls in accounts.
10:32Charming.
10:34Casanova's story checks out.
10:35You know what, Matt?
10:37I don't think we're going to find the identity of Pete's killer in any of his old cases, mate.
10:41I really don't.
10:41Today's the first Friday of the month, Blum.
10:45First Friday, we'd always meet up, have a beer, and a moan about work.
10:52And?
10:55Well, the last few times he cancelled.
10:58Right, so when did you last see him?
11:01Sunday week.
11:02Came around the flat, something about Danny making the footy ting.
11:05Which was a shock.
11:06Pete was crap.
11:08And that's it?
11:09Well, we always had a few beers, you know?
11:11I'd never seen him drink like that before.
11:14Well, let me tell you, when I was drinking like that, it was because something was really wrong inside.
11:19Really eaten me up.
11:20He had to come out and I had to tell someone.
11:23What are you saying?
11:23Well, if we're not seeing it in his files anywhere here, and he never opened up to you, maybe Mel saw it at home.
11:33If there are any couples who don't have any problems after 13 years of marriage, Matt, aren't couples anymore.
11:40If you've loved each other once, then you stick together and you make it work.
11:43How did Pete seem recently?
11:46He'd been having problems sleeping.
11:52Well, you know, that was just work.
11:54He didn't talk to me about that kind of thing.
11:57Didn't want to bring that home with him.
11:59He talked to you, didn't he, about that sort of stuff.
12:03Well, not recently, no.
12:04So how long had this been going on?
12:09Six months, a year maybe.
12:13I can't remember when I first noticed it.
12:16The last couple of months, he'd been having nightmares.
12:20Had he spoken to you about those?
12:24He'd wake up screaming and broke my heart.
12:28Last week, I woke up, and he was down here in the dark, crying, and he asked me what did I think he was worth.
12:47I thought regular counselling would make it better.
12:52Well, there was no mention that he went to any counselling in his psych report.
12:56He wasn't seeing a police counsellor, he was seeing a priest.
13:01What?
13:02Pete?
13:05Mr Atheist himself.
13:08His mum would run into an old family friend who offered to do counselling three times last week.
13:19He was your old parish priest.
13:22Nugent?
13:23Father Jonathan Nugent?
13:25Yeah, that's him.
13:26It's good to see you again, Matthew.
13:34Can I get you some tea?
13:36We're okay, Father, thank you.
13:38No one calls me Father anymore.
13:41I haven't been a priest for 15 years now.
13:45So, how can I help you?
13:47Have you seen Peter Garvey recently?
13:51No, not for years.
13:54But I ran into his mother a few months ago.
13:58I counselled her when I was a priest.
14:00Peter's father liked to drink.
14:02And when I bumped into her, she said that Peter was having a few problems and that he'd like to hear from me.
14:08And did you get in touch with him?
14:10I meant to.
14:11I meant to.
14:12I've got a mind like a sieve.
14:13So you weren't counselling him at all?
14:16No.
14:17Is something wrong?
14:19Well, Peter Garvey was shot and killed on Wednesday night in Battersea Park.
14:24Oh, dear God, that was Peter.
14:27Dom, the kids are heading for bed.
14:30Oh, I didn't know you had company.
14:32Sorry.
14:32I'll be up in a minute.
14:34Okay.
14:35Won't keep him long, Mrs. Nugent.
14:36Okay.
14:40You have kids?
14:42Yes.
14:44Where were you on Wednesday night?
14:45What?
14:47Well, I was here with my family.
14:51Am I a suspect, Matthew?
14:53It's just a question, Father, and nobody calls me Matthew anymore.
15:03Nobody calls me Matthew anymore?
15:06Father Nugent wasn't just a parish priest.
15:08He was a local hero.
15:10Turned the area around.
15:11He started up a credit union, set up a youth club.
15:15Sounds like he did a lot of good work.
15:16Yeah.
15:17He's also a paedophile.
15:23Does Nugent have any previous?
15:25Well, he's moved about a fair bit.
15:27Glasgow, Belfast.
15:28Half a dozen moves in the last 15 years.
15:31So, apart from this, he's clean.
15:33Ronnie, we're wasting our time.
15:34Pete's death has nothing to do with Nugent.
15:36People do desperate things when they've got a past they need to keep buried.
15:39If Nugent's abused Pete, I guess it's a line we have to follow.
15:43Someone like Nugent could never get the better of Pete.
15:45Pete was armed.
15:46How did Nugent get the gun off him?
15:48More importantly, how did Nugent clean up the crime scene?
15:50There you go.
15:51Maybe he's a fan of CSI?
15:53Yeah.
15:53You say Garvey visited you on Sunday.
15:56Is there any chance he spoke to your other friends?
16:06Pete said that he'd track Nugent down.
16:10He started watching him.
16:13Then last week, he slipped up.
16:15Nugent spotted him, confronted him.
16:17He tried to offer Pete 10 grand to go away.
16:2010 grand?
16:22Why was Pete following Nugent?
16:25He was building a case against him.
16:28What?
16:29We've been through Pete's files.
16:31There's no mention of Nugent.
16:32He was doing it off his own back.
16:35In his own time.
16:38That was years ago, Harry.
16:41Not for us, Matt.
16:43Pete dealt with it.
16:44He was over it.
16:46You think so?
16:47Well, I guess that shows how little you really knew him, Matt.
16:50Um, Harry, that photograph that you guys, when you were kids, playing football, where
17:03was that taken, Harry?
17:06Yeah.
17:08That's us.
17:10It's the only photo I kept.
17:13I burnt the rest.
17:13You don't get over what Nugent did to us, Matt.
17:20Pete did.
17:21You know, he learned to live with it.
17:23Live with it?
17:23Yeah.
17:24He got married, he had kids, he had a job that he loved.
17:26What, Claude?
17:27Are you living on?
17:28Pete wasn't a victim anymore, Harry.
17:30Of course he was.
17:33He always has been.
17:35You know, this is why he couldn't talk to you.
17:36He knew how you'd react.
17:38Like it was nothing.
17:43Everything's always so simple to you, right?
17:51I trusted Nugent.
17:54There were some times I think it was all in my head.
17:56And then I feel sick.
18:04I let Nugent do that to me.
18:12Nugent lied to us, Ron.
18:14Yeah, but if Pete confronted Nugent with the case he was building, one bullet would solve
18:19all Nugent's problems.
18:21Well done, Victor.
18:22You see, that means that would get rid of Pete and get rid of the case.
18:27Means he's not ten grand lighter either.
18:29Doesn't explain the forensics clear up, though.
18:31Don't have to, though, sunshine.
18:33Look, forensics have just found the bullet.
18:35I hate it when you call me that.
18:36Don't worry, sweetheart.
18:37We got the test back from the lab.
18:40The bullet went straight through P.S. Garvey's skull.
18:43Travelled a hundred feet.
18:44Got lodged in a tree.
18:46Look, we were looking in the wrong place.
18:48This came from the gun Garvey took from the prop store, yeah?
18:51Yeah.
18:51Look, we have the lands and grooves on file.
18:59Only problem is, now that we've got the bullet, we've got the angle, the distance, and the
19:03trajectory.
19:07It looks like Garvey killed himself.
19:09What?
19:10How can it be suicide?
19:12Look, I know.
19:12I know.
19:13There was no gun at the scene, no shell casing, no GS on Pete's hands.
19:17Yeah, exactly.
19:19So it's murder.
19:20I'm sorry, man, but forensics don't lie.
19:25Well, look, you've checked his hands for GSR.
19:28What about his gloves?
19:30No, he wasn't wearing any.
19:32They were inside his pockets.
19:33Then how does he shoot himself?
19:34Okay, man, one sec.
19:36All right.
19:36Well, listen, do us a favor, Teddy.
19:38Get hold of his gloves and forensic aid him.
19:40Okay.
19:51Pierce Garvey wasn't wearing any gloves.
19:53I remember putting that in my report.
19:55You said this was an informal chat.
19:58Your report says that the gloves were found in his pockets.
20:03Now, our forensics report says that there was gunshot residue on them.
20:08So you can see why we're confused, can't you, Omar?
20:12I mean, maths has never been my strong point, but this really doesn't add up, don't you think?
20:17So, how did the gun wizard you get on to PS Garvey's gloves if he wasn't wearing them?
20:25You are entitled to a federal, Omar.
20:27Yeah, yeah, you are, Omar.
20:29But if you've got nothing to hide, you can talk to us as well.
20:35Forrest, you could have come from any time.
20:37Yeah, could have.
20:40Do you think we've just floated up the Thames in a bubble, Omar?
20:43Now, these gloves were taken off of PS Garvey after the gun was fired, weren't they?
20:51Don't look at her.
20:52Look at me, son.
20:53Won't they?
20:54Omar!
20:56I think I should talk to my rep.
20:58Do you know what I think?
21:00The only reason you would destroy a crime scene is because you were paid to.
21:05Of course we weren't.
21:07This has nothing to do with Omar.
21:09It was my idea.
21:11When we found Garvey, there was a gun in his right hand.
21:15He killed himself.
21:16No.
21:19No, why would he commit suicide?
21:22He's got everything to live for.
21:24He has a wife.
21:25He has kids.
21:26Yeah, exactly.
21:26And if he goes on the books as a suicide, and his pension or his insurance policy have
21:32an exclusion period, then his family end up with next to nothing.
21:36Sergeant Morrow, you destroyed a crime scene.
21:40Come on, we've got to look out for each other, don't we?
21:42You'd have done the same thing.
21:44No, I wouldn't.
21:45Now, what did you do with the gun?
21:52The shell case and the gun, I dumped the light in the Thames after work.
21:56We think Garvey went to the park to confront Nugent.
22:08Maybe even to kill him.
22:10Couldn't do it.
22:11Turned the gun on himself.
22:14Sounds like his life fell apart when he heard Nugent was back.
22:17Well, nightmares, drinking, if you ask me, sounds like he shot the wrong person.
22:22So, what now?
22:23Nugent didn't kill Garvey.
22:25There's no case here, Ronnie.
22:27Well, hang on, James.
22:28I mean, Nugent may not have pulled the trigger.
22:30Look, I know he's morally responsible, but come on, that's not the same as guilty in the
22:35eyes of the law.
22:36What about Harry?
22:37Is he prepared to give evidence of his abuse?
22:41Harry just wants to forget the whole thing.
22:43The last thing he's going to want to do is stand up in the box and talk about what happened.
22:48Have you got any other victims at all?
22:50We've talked to the church, social services, paedophile unit, interviewed his wife.
22:57Nothing.
22:58If there are no witnesses and no victims, I don't have a case.
23:03There must be something we can do.
23:04Sure.
23:05The criminal act was 25 years ago, Ronnie.
23:08So, that's it, suicide.
23:10Well, what about mailing the kids?
23:12I mean, where does that leave them?
23:14They came out of this with nothing.
23:16I'm sorry for your loss, Matt.
23:18I really am, but whatever we think of Nugent, there's no evidence he was an abuser.
23:24Right.
23:35I'll see you, Ronnie.
23:36Oh, Alicia.
23:37Um, I think he's lad here.
23:42Leave it with me.
23:46Morning.
23:47James.
23:47PTSD.
23:59PTSD.
24:00PTSD.
24:01PTSD.
24:02Post-traumatic stress disorder.
24:04It's not just that Garvey's life fell apart.
24:08It wasn't just suicide.
24:10He was suffering from PTSD.
24:13That's a psychiatric illness.
24:16Look, the damage to the nervous system is psychiatric harm.
24:18That's recognized by the courts, right?
24:20So, if we prove that Nugent's abuse caused the PTSD, we can charge him with manslaughter.
24:27Good morning to you, too.
24:34Look, George.
24:35It's very simple.
24:36All we're doing is bringing a case against an individual.
24:39Look.
24:40Look.
24:40No way.
24:42You're not just saying that Nugent is responsible for Peter Garvey's PTSD.
24:46You're saying that Nugent is responsible for his death.
24:50Now, do you know what I'm doing tomorrow, James?
24:52I'm accounting to the chief exec of the CPS for every penny spent on failed convictions.
24:59It is Saturday tomorrow, James.
25:01I like Saturdays.
25:02My wife insists on them.
25:04So you want us to come back at the start in the next financial year?
25:07Don't be a smartass.
25:08Difficult times mean difficult choices.
25:11We tighten our belts.
25:13We choose our battles.
25:14And besides, no jury will ever buy it.
25:16If they don't, they don't.
25:20So be it.
25:21The point is, we make a stand for Garvey, for the CPS, for other abuse victims.
25:28How can he do it?
25:30How can he put a gun to his head?
25:31Think about Mel and the kids.
25:33Still pull the trigger.
25:34He's a coward, Rob.
25:37Looks like the verdict's in.
25:39Evening.
25:55Evening.
25:55Jonathan Nugent, I'm arresting you on suspicion of the manslaughter of Peter Garvey.
26:01Manslaughter?
26:02What are you talking about?
26:03You do not have the sands in.
26:04It may harm your defense.
26:06If you do not mention when questioned, something which you later rely on in court.
26:10Anything you do say may be used in evidence.
26:14Maybe you'd like to get a coat, sir, and come with us.
26:16I didn't know if you'd make it.
26:27Peter's a good mate.
26:30Can't ask for more than that.
26:32Mel asked if we'd do a lift.
26:34Yeah, of course.
26:35He carried me home enough times.
26:37And you.
26:38I got your message.
26:43You said you had a favor to ask.
26:45You can wait till after the service.
26:56Why can't you do it?
26:58It didn't happen to me, Harry.
27:02You're a victim and a witness.
27:04I wouldn't ask if there was any other way.
27:09I've never talked about this before, Matt.
27:14Not to my ex-wife.
27:16My fiancée.
27:19My last marriage fell apart because of what he did to me.
27:26I'm finally getting my life back together.
27:30I can't go back there now.
27:32Look.
27:34Pete has left us to pick up the pieces.
27:37It's not about him anymore.
27:39I was just getting up in court saying what Nugent did to me.
27:43Please.
27:44Mel is blaming herself.
27:46This isn't her fault.
27:48This is our chance to give her some peace.
27:50We can put Nugent away.
27:52You really think I can do this, Matt?
27:54I know you can.
27:55Yeah, I know you can.
28:01I can't talk about what he did to me.
28:05I saw Nugent with Pete once.
28:09He was in the gym.
28:11I can talk about that.
28:16Jonathan Nugent.
28:17You were charged with the manslaughter of Peter Garvey.
28:20How do you plead, guilty or not guilty?
28:23Not guilty.
28:24Is there an application regarding bail, Mr. Ridley?
28:26Oh, most definitely, my lord.
28:33Manslaughter?
28:34Garvey shot himself.
28:37Your charges there are ridiculous.
28:39It's actually quite amusing.
28:41Amusing?
28:42Your client abused Peter Garvey to such an extent that 25 years later,
28:46the damage was enough for him to make him take his own life.
28:51That's amusing.
28:52I'll never know why Garvey shot himself.
28:55Unless you can communicate with the dead.
28:57Well, I am a man of many talents, Robert.
28:59If you want to change the law, stand for Parliament.
29:04Another satisfied member of the James Steele fan club.
29:08What would you do that winds these people up?
29:10Oh, you know.
29:11Breathe.
29:13Three missed calls, George.
29:20Eight.
29:22Conference room.
29:24I made a few gentle inquiries, George.
29:27If the Cardinal misunderstood my tone, that's not my problem.
29:30Gentle inquiries is exact words where bully boy techniques,
29:34veiled threats, and libelous accusations.
29:37That doesn't sound like me.
29:38Really?
29:39It sounds like I'm a power for the course to be.
29:41Who's his emissary?
29:43Father Aidan Brown.
29:47Nugent worked for the Catholic Church, Father Brown.
29:50We have a right to discover his files.
29:53You can't drag us into this case looking for dirt on him and not expect a reaction.
30:02Nugent left the priesthood years ago.
30:05He was a priest for 20 years.
30:08During that time, the church moved him to a dozen different parishes.
30:12He had wanderlust.
30:13With the greatest respect, Father, I think his lust was of a very different sort.
30:19If the Cardinal's not convinced, why isn't he here in person?
30:23Mr. Steele, you know as well as I do mudstakes, especially where priests and children are concerned.
30:31We've acknowledged our mistakes.
30:33But revisiting the past only serves to undermine the church in the eyes of the faithful.
30:38My instructions are very clear.
30:40We can afford the best lawyers.
30:42So, step lightly.
30:56Well, I'm the Church of Scotland, so I'm okay.
31:00Right, well, let's recap the game plan.
31:02We put Nugent away without, and let me just say this again, James, without incurring the wrath of the Catholic Church.
31:13His eminence, the Cardinal, is a sore loser.
31:17Golf.
31:18Poker, I believe.
31:26I noticed a change in Peter.
31:31I thought it was my fault.
31:34Well, he said it was just work.
31:37But this was different.
31:39He became a stranger.
31:41Well, tell the court how Peter was the week after he met Mr. Nugent.
31:47That last week, he had nightmares, and he'd wake up covered in sweat.
31:53And I want to hold him and comfort him.
31:56I mean, the person that I loved most in the world couldn't bear to be touched.
32:02I thought I'd never feel so alone as I did then.
32:05Thank you, ma'am.
32:06How long were you married, Mrs. Carvey?
32:15Thirteen years this year.
32:16Thirteen years.
32:18And in all that time, your husband never once mentioned my client?
32:23He never once alleged to you that he'd been abused as a child?
32:30No.
32:31Is it possible that you never mentioned it because it didn't happen?
32:35It...
32:35Withdrawal.
32:39Roboto, my lord.
32:41Mel.
32:42Why do you think that Peter never talked to you about being abused?
32:48I guess that we were the only part of his life that he had not touched and ruined.
32:55And Peter wanted to keep it that way.
32:57And I'd gone back to the gym, because I'd forgotten my PA kit.
33:06And I saw Pete had his hand down Nugent's trousers.
33:12He was masturbating him.
33:14Nugent knew we couldn't speak out when we were kids.
33:17He knew no one would listen to us.
33:19I'm not a scared kid anymore.
33:27You and Peter Garvey were close, weren't you?
33:31We were best friends.
33:33Would you lie for him?
33:36I'm not a liar.
33:38Oh, really?
33:39Didn't you once make a false allegation about a maths teacher at your school?
33:44That was a mistake.
33:45A mistake?
33:47Did that teacher touch you?
33:49No.
33:51That doesn't mean I'm lying about what he did.
33:53You're divorced, aren't you, Mr. Lucas?
33:55Did you cheat on your wife?
33:56The witness's personal life is not relevant, my lord.
34:00Is this a fishing expedition, Mr. Ridley?
34:03Did the witness lie to his wife, my lord?
34:05Did you?
34:06I cheated on my wife, but I know what I saw.
34:09He abused Pete.
34:11Did my client ever spend time alone with you?
34:14Yes.
34:15Did he touch you?
34:19Did he ever touch you?
34:23I can't.
34:24You can't what, Mr. Lucas?
34:26You can't remember?
34:27Can't lie anymore?
34:29Did my client ever touch you?
34:32Did he ever touch you?
34:37No.
34:39No.
34:40Of course he'd ever touched you.
34:42Just as you never saw him touch Peter Garvey, did you?
34:45Lord, counsel is clearly baiting the witness.
34:48I am merely probing the sinew.
34:50My lord, of this witness's story.
34:53Mr. Lucas has no reason to lie.
34:56Tell him!
34:56Tell him!
34:59Why won't you believe me?
35:01I'm not a child anymore.
35:03Why won't you believe me?
35:06Sadly, we don't believe you, Mr. Lucas.
35:08Because you're a liar.
35:12I'm not a liar.
35:13This is not fair.
35:15I can't do this.
35:16I'm sorry.
35:17I'm so sorry.
35:18I can't do this.
35:19The witness is excused.
35:26He's just down there.
35:31Detective?
35:32Detective.
35:32i'll call you back yeah
35:39i need your help why would you think i would help you it's your duty you're a policeman
35:48i have a confession to make
35:53there was a delay on the tube
36:02my bail condition said i'm supposed to report to my local police station by 7
36:06it's 6 45 now even if i took the taxi i'd be
36:09well then it looks like you'll be in breach of your conditions
36:12well i was told that if i went to another station a detective there could sign the form
36:18you wouldn't want an innocent man to go to prison for something that wasn't before
36:25innocent
36:29of course
36:31i never touched you why do you believe i touched them
36:37there you go father
36:49there you go father
37:02thank you
37:09peter garvey started to exhibit symptoms of post traumatic stress disorder about a year before
37:17he died this is peter garvey's caseload from the time when he started to develop symptoms
37:24ptsd case 4453692 the investigation of a youth worker who was abusing a young boy peter garvey investigated several abuse cases why did this one affect him more than the others the young boy in the case he was dealing with developed selective mutism as a result of being abused he wouldn't talk in fact he couldn't give evidence against his abuser
38:01him in touch
38:02him in touch unbearable all classic symptoms of ptsd generated flashbacks
38:08in the end
38:09in the end i'd imagine i'd imagine he felt death was his only escape
38:14so you'd imagine what he felt
38:21is that because peter garvey wasn't your patient
38:24no he wasn't but how can you be certain that his suicide stemmed from this one alleged event
38:32abuse is really one event
38:35your observations and conclusions are based on files and hearsay aren't they doctor
38:42no more than your observations of mr. ridley
38:46no further questions
38:49master stroke james scottish expert witness always plays well with the jury don't know how i'm gonna bounce back
39:00don't sell yourself short robert i'm sure you are one of your flying monkeys are already cooking up a way for nugent to wriggle out of this
39:09no no you are home and dry on this one unless of course that's um an application to dismiss all charges
39:17my lord my client has brought some fresh evidence to my attention it appears that p. sergeant garvey was blackmailing my client to the tune of ten thousand pounds
39:28well your client offered peter garvey a bribe to walk away
39:33fiu checked p.s garvey's accounts there is no record of that transaction my lord
39:38financial investigation unit clearly didn't look hard enough ten thousand pounds my lord paid into the account of daniel garvey
39:45the money does indeed appear to have been placed in master garvey's account mr nugent
39:51why wait until this late hour to bring this matter up i was trying to protect peter and his family i didn't want him to be remembered for this
40:02i didn't know about the money
40:06of course you didn't i know that i thought i'd be more upset when the judge dismissed the case
40:15but then i realized that nothing was going to bring him back
40:19why couldn't pete tell me matt why couldn't he ask me for help i mean is that too much to ask
40:25he never said anything to me mel
40:28but that was pete you know he was strong
40:32it was also a pain in the arse
40:36idiot
40:42i miss it
40:44what year did nugent leave the priesthood
41:021994
41:04when he was in glasgow joined an accountancy firm the same year
41:09nugent's been out of the church for years
41:12ah there's no way he's kept his hands to himself
41:15where's he finding his victims
41:19did he keep in contact with the church after he left
41:23goes to mass once a week but that seems to be it
41:26he's kept well away from youth clubs and community and youth work as well
41:31how soon after he left the priesthood did he meet his wife
41:35um married kate dobbin a year later she was a single mother then husband died in a car crash she was left to bring up the kids by herself
41:45she moved out of the house last month took the kids with her
41:48you don't think
41:51you think he's abusing his own family
41:54he abused the boys in his congregation when he was a priest
41:58yeah but his own family
42:00social services spoke to them there's no evidence of any abuse his wife and kids denied it
42:05abusers rely on their victims hiding behind walls of silence and shame
42:11only in this case it wasn't just his victims hiding
42:14so are the catholic church
42:16and they've got a lot to lose by admitting what he's done
42:20seriously
42:22okay
42:25book an ambulance now james because george is so gonna have an aneurysm
42:29great
42:30we lost the case against nugent
42:32and instead of letting go like a normal person
42:36what's your reaction
42:37get up dust myself off put nugent back in the box
42:40and put god in the dock beside him
42:43at worst the church knew he was a paedophile george at best they turned a blind eye to his actions
42:48i am your friend james peter i i want to help you here
42:51but please explain to me as simply as possible
42:53what part of do not incur the wrath of the catholic church did you not understand
43:00father nugent was responsible for these acts
43:03he's just a man he's not the entire church
43:06i'm sure that distinction will be a huge relief to the cardinal
43:09so the church is not charged with the abuse of children
43:13just merely that it let it happen
43:15you saw how they overreacted when we made our preliminary enquiries against nugent
43:19they're scared george i think they're hiding something
43:22well either way we lost the last hand
43:24and they now hold all the cards
43:27so let's call them bluff
43:30we'll threaten to hit them where it hurts
43:33in their pockets
43:35we'll say harry lucas is gonna bring a civil suit against them just like in ireland
43:39and if that happens
43:41it'll cost them millions
43:43it'll cost them millions
43:44and if they don't fold
43:46it remind me never to play you a poker
43:52you play high stakes mr steel
43:58it shouldn't have taken the threat of civil action to uncover these names
44:04i agree
44:06people like nugent
44:08are part of our past
44:10which some of us
44:11would rather not think about
44:13the church tried to rehabilitate him
44:16apparently they tried everything
44:18treatment
44:19counseling
44:20everything
44:21except
44:22hand them over to the authority
44:24the church and the law have a lot in common mr steel
44:27but as christians we leave judgment and punishment to god
44:31our job is to help people and to forgive them
44:35i'm sure that's a great comfort to the people in this file father
44:39i've spent the time since our last meeting
44:42visiting father nugent's old parishes
44:45going through archives collecting information
44:48talking to his victims
44:50so why did you connect this
44:53nobody asked you to
44:55we're all going to be accountable to god one day mr steel
44:59there must be nearly fifty names on this list
45:11the police collected 44 statements detailing your abuse
45:23where did you get these names
45:25you have my full disclosure
45:26i'll see you in court
45:28you can't do this
45:29it's wrong
45:30right or wrong
45:32i don't care
45:33and neither will the jury
45:35your client faces a 44 count indictment for serious sexual offenses
45:39offenses
45:4044 for god's sake mr steel
45:43you'll be held accountable to your victims
45:45long before you're held accountable to god
45:48your victims have found their voice mr newton
45:51look i have a family
45:53why don't you tell them to consider locking you up as a gift from me to them
45:58there is absolutely nothing you could say that would make me feel sorry for you
46:02sorry for you
46:19this place gives me a me grade
46:21that'll be your conscience knowing our brothers
46:24what if we plead guilty to ten including the garvey abuse
46:33not good enough
46:35twenty thirty what would be good enough
46:41nothing
46:43no deals no pretrial agreements
46:46his victims want to face him in court
46:49i'm gonna give them that chance
46:56you okay
46:57yeah
46:58thanks for doing this man
47:03damaged goods
47:08well if i'd have known that
47:10i'd have told you years ago about the day aiming my goldfish died
47:14you'll be alright
47:17you'll be alright
47:27DS Devlin to court number ten
47:30DS Devlin to court number ten please
47:47i swear by almighty god that the evidence i shall give shall be the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth
47:58i was nine
48:00i had chicken pox for a couple of weeks and my mum left me home alone during the day
48:06Pete used to visit
48:08one day he said that he'd found some porn mags while he was cleaning the sacristy
48:14well i laughed
48:16all the altar boys knew about father nugent's dirty magazines
48:20but then Pete said that he gave him one to look at
48:23father nugent
48:25had a pornographic magazine in his church
48:28yes
48:29which he gave to a child
48:31yes
48:32nugent had told him
48:35how to touch himself
48:38to make it feel better
48:40i sort of found it funny at first
48:42but then it went further
48:44Pete tried to show me what they'd done
48:47i remember shoving him away
48:49i told him
48:51it was wrong
48:52how did peter
48:54respond
48:56he was ten
48:57he was confused
48:58i remember Pete got very angry with me
49:00he said that i had reacted like nugent
49:03shouting
49:04and getting upset
49:07then he started sobbing uncontrollably
49:11you see earlier that day
49:13nugent had yelled at him
49:15said that they had sinned
49:17that they'd been sinning for weeks
49:21he had dragged Pete to the chapel
49:24forced him to kneel in front of the altar
49:26made him swear on the blessed sacrament never to say anything about it
49:31he told Pete that he would go to hell if he ever did
49:35thank you
49:36no further questions
49:46did you believe your friend?
49:49of course why wouldn't i?
49:51then why didn't you tell an adult?
49:55i promised Pete i wouldn't
49:56so
49:59two young boys
50:01discovering sex through
50:04pornographic literature
50:05it's hardly evidence of abuse
50:08well that's not what i'm saying
50:11this had gone on for weeks
50:14father nugent repeatedly molested my friend
50:18hearsay
50:19did my client ever touch you?
50:23detective sergeant
50:24did my client ever touch you?
50:31not like that no
50:33then like what?
50:35he was always there
50:37he lingered
50:39you know with his hands
50:40with his eyes
50:41he was always looking at me
50:43he was always there when i was having a shower
50:45he was always there when i was getting changed
50:47we all knew what he was like
50:48all the altar boys knew?
50:49you all
50:51talked about father nugent
50:53yes
50:54made jokes
50:55told stories about him
50:56sometimes
50:57well isn't it possible that Peter Garvey was
51:00making up a story
51:01as a joke
51:02my friend shot himself because of what that man did to him
51:05that is not a joke
51:06so you say
51:09but you failed to spot that your friend was suffering from depression
51:14and now it's easier for you to blame my client than to face the truth
51:19which is that you could have prevented the death of your best friend
51:23i'm sorry i missed your question
51:28you need to ruin my client's reputation
51:31how do you ruin the reputation of a paedophile?
51:33you need to believe this lie
51:36so that you can live with your failure to act
51:40with your guilt at the suicide of a good friend
51:44i don't need anything other than for that paedophile to be locked up
51:48have you reached a verdict on all counts upon which you are all agreed?
51:55yes
51:57on count one sexual abuse of a minor
52:01do you find the defendant guilty or not guilty?
52:05guilty
52:07on count two sexual abuse of a minor
52:11do you find the defendant guilty or not guilty?
52:15guilty
52:16guilty
52:17on count four sexual abuse of a minor
52:19do you find the defendant guilty or not guilty?
52:24guilty
52:27on count four sexual abuse of a minor
52:30do you find the defendant guilty?
52:33welcome
52:41i haven't been inside one of those in nearly 20 years
52:45years. We'll take it easy on him then, won't you? Pete was my mate, Ron. He always looked
52:58out for me. Well was life for him, eh? Nothing you could have done for him, Matt. Pete joined
53:07Vice because he thought he could save people. Put right the past, you know. That's the trouble
53:15with our line of work. It's always too late. Nugent came to see me when he looked me in
53:21the eye and he said he'd never touch me. But I don't know. You know, there's sometimes
53:29when I'm not sure what I remember and what I don't remember. Well, you're talking to the
53:39wrong bloke, mate. I lost an entire decade to cheap whiskey. Luckily, it was the 1980s.
53:55Don't spill too many beans, will you, son? You've done nothing wrong.
53:58I'll be outside when you're ready.
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