Law & Order UK Season 4 Episode 6 Skeletons
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00:00And prosecutors who prosecute the offenders, these are their stories.
00:30It's your dad! Check behind that scaffolding, right up to the road.
00:35Mobile's still switched off.
00:37Will, the tray says he's around here somewhere.
00:40John!
00:41Oscar 5, Oscar 5, latest from T.I.U. says the mobile signal is moving.
00:48Repeat, the signal is moving.
00:51It's on the move!
00:53Oscar 9-9, Oscar 9-9.
00:55Run people, run the move!
00:57Ronnie, mate, there's nothing up here, there's no...
01:01Okay, Ron, we're headed back down to the river.
01:05John!
01:06I've got you down here, Sean!
01:07John!
01:09Oscar 5, Oscar 5, I've got nothing for you.
01:13Mobile signal is heading south, towards the tent.
01:18Well, he's not even down by the river.
01:23Lads!
01:24Lads!
01:25Get out of the water!
01:26Come on, he's not there!
01:27Up here!
01:28Matt, he's gotta be heading...
01:30Yeah, yeah, I got it.
01:32Matt, he must be right on top of you, mate.
01:35Ronnie, there's nothing here, we've checked it twice now.
01:38Nothing by the riverbank.
01:40No sign at all.
01:42Oh, my God.
01:55Ronnie!
01:56Ronnie!
01:57I'm sorry!
01:58Get down!
01:59Get down in there!
02:01What is happening?
02:03What is happening?
02:04What is happening?
02:05What's going on?
02:07Oh, fuck!
02:08Oh, fuck!
02:09Oh, my God.
02:39Oh, my God.
03:09I really don't.
03:11Rodney.
03:19I found that on him.
03:20I didn't think I'd ever see that again.
03:29I didn't think I'd ever see that again.
03:59I just think it's a bit of a nightmare.
04:26I mean, it's 14-year-old, black, same note in his pocket.
04:32Deja vu, James.
04:33Sounds like Andrew Dillon's back.
04:35The racist killer.
04:36One clean blow fractured that boy's skull, and two of Dillon's victims had the same MO.
04:43Sean Munro had a gold crucifix, according to his dad.
04:46It wasn't found on his body, and we all know that Dillon, he liked to take souvenirs.
04:50The original murders were over six years ago.
04:53Why would someone do this now?
04:54Dillon was badly beaten up in jail a week ago.
04:57Someone could have found out, taken revenge.
05:00Did anyone in particular support Dillon during the trial?
05:03No, his family stopped coming to court.
05:08Although he did have a few die-hard supporters in the National Front.
05:14They set up that online fan site.
05:17They called Dillon a white power hero.
05:19We got shut down a few months back for inciting racial hatred.
05:28What happened to freedom of speech?
05:31Where were you yesterday, Carl?
05:33Between 3.30 and 11.
05:35I was sharing a meeting.
05:38What, Carl?
05:39It was a discussion about immigration, to be exact.
05:43And how long did this meeting last?
05:464 till 7.30.
05:47Then we went for a curry.
05:52How many attended?
05:54There was ten of us.
05:56I'll do you with this.
05:57Give us a paint job.
05:59Did you see this boy when you came out of the pub?
06:04Saw plenty of them.
06:06I see you do.
06:08This boy's name is Sean.
06:12This boy was killed yesterday in this area.
06:15His body was dumped in a storm drain.
06:17Try again.
06:19He's a copper's kid.
06:21Carl.
06:22And that copper happens to be a friend of ours.
06:25That's why you care.
06:27So what was the nature of the meeting?
06:30Stirring up the mob to follow in Dillon's footsteps and lynch a 14-year-old boy?
06:35What does it say?
06:38Actions, not words.
06:43We didn't attack any boy.
06:44But we support what Dillon did.
06:48Well, that's more than he did.
06:53I mean, Dillon denied the murders, didn't he?
06:57Let's go, Matt.
06:58Andrew Dillon didn't start here.
07:02He got mugged by two of them and he made a stand.
07:06We're overrun round here and that man's got balls.
07:10Oh, I doubt that very much now.
07:12They'd have probably been ripped off after he got beat up in the nick last week.
07:16How did that happen?
07:18They're supposed to keep him away from the foreigners.
07:22But not from the deaths.
07:32Post-mortem's done.
07:33FME puts time of death between five and seven.
07:36Well, that rules out Hitler youth.
07:38Anything else?
07:39Sean ate not long before he died.
07:41Partially digested doughnuts, sweets, crisps.
07:44So, where's his local tuck shop?
07:49He'd come from his street dance group.
07:52He wanted to show me his latest moves.
07:55He cracked me up.
07:58That's street dance, is it?
08:02Bruce, he is more familiar with ballroom.
08:05He was gonna go and Britain's Got Talent.
08:08Did he talk to anyone else in the shop for Carla after he walks away?
08:14I seem to remember him talking to the security guard, just by the door there.
08:20And is the security guard on duty today?
08:24The company rotates me.
08:26I work a few local shopping centers.
08:29And yesterday?
08:31I did see this boy.
08:32I asked him to leave the newsagent.
08:36He was looking at pornography.
08:39Old years come in searching for the people's friend.
08:42Don't want to see that smart.
08:44Wouldn't want them choking on their worthers.
08:47So I sent him on his way.
08:49I walked him out the shopping center.
08:54Wasn't to know he'd come to any harm.
08:56He doesn't happen to know which way he went after you sent him on his way, do you?
09:00He went right towards Vecton.
09:02Why, Michael?
09:05Excuse me.
09:06I'm okay.
09:10So what do you reckon?
09:11He just seems a normal lad.
09:14Ate sweets, thought about girls.
09:16Who knew you best at that age?
09:18Your dad or your mates?
09:20Come on.
09:20Come on.
09:20Come on.
09:21Come on.
09:22Come on.
09:23Come on.
09:24Come on.
09:25Come on.
09:26He was a Dutch hero called Insync.
09:30Sean fought the name because we did everything together.
09:35Ollie, have you any idea why Sean would head off from Kellingtown to Vecton?
09:42No.
09:44None of our friends live there.
09:48Unless we went to see Darren.
09:50Who's Darren?
09:51Boy from school.
09:53That's Darren.
09:54He lives in Vecton.
09:58He runs a talent agency.
10:02He's trying to get Sean to sign up with him.
10:06Sean was better than me, but he said no.
10:10Didn't want the act to split up.
10:11Sean, maybe he changed his mind and didn't want to hurt my feelings.
10:22Sean was tough like that.
10:25Yeah, Sean came to see me.
10:28I was interested in signing him.
10:31He wanted to talk about it in private.
10:33Sean, what time was this?
10:36About half five.
10:39Did he stay long?
10:41No, I was off out for a meal.
10:44So he walked with me to the DLR, then said he was off home.
10:50Darren Powell used to have a really good job as a dance teacher at the East London School of Performing Arts.
10:55Now, he runs a talent agency that nobody's heard of from his own front room.
11:01So why did he leave the school?
11:02The head teacher wouldn't say.
11:04And he left without a reference.
11:06Apparently, the guy goes around playgrounds targeting disadvantaged kids.
11:12Sean Monroe wasn't sexually abused.
11:14Not the day he was killed.
11:16Excuse me, ma'am.
11:17Darren Powell's Oyster Card was used in Beckton Park Station at 20 plus 7.
11:24Darren told us he jumped on a train, left Sean at the station at quarter to six.
11:29You were the last person to see Sean alive, Darren.
11:35There's 95 minutes of your time that's unaccounted for, and that's around the time that Sean was killed.
11:40I didn't kill him.
11:41Well, his body was dumped in a tunnel, 20 minutes from Beckton Park Station.
11:53I wanted to shake Sean off, so I said I was going out.
11:58He offered to walk with me to the station.
12:01I went into the station, waited for him to leave, and then I had a pint.
12:08Why were you trying to shake him off or thought you wanted to sign him?
12:11Why did you leave your teaching job at the ELPA?
12:18Without a reference.
12:23We'll get the story soon enough.
12:26And you're holding out on us.
12:28So I'll ask you again, why did you leave your teaching job?
12:32Because I got too involved with a pupil.
12:44Oh.
12:45It was a young boy.
12:49He was being abused by his stepdad.
12:52I just gave him a place to stay.
12:54His stepdad said I'd lured him there.
12:57And what did the boy say?
12:58He was too scared to say any different.
13:00Were you involved with Sean?
13:02Were you worried that he would tell someone to?
13:04No, listen.
13:05The boy was lying.
13:06The school didn't think so.
13:07That's why I couldn't invite Sean into my house.
13:10I didn't dare.
13:11I'd already had the school board practically call me a paedophile.
13:17And here you are doing the same.
13:20It's because of people like you that I sent Sean away.
13:25To his death.
13:26I found him here.
13:48He's not long dead.
13:50Scuff marks on the floor indicate a struggle.
13:53How old?
13:54Thirteen according to his ID card.
13:57Those marks around his knee are strangled.
14:00The ligature marks suggest that the killer used a boy's school tie.
14:03Loose around his neck.
14:06We also found this in his pocket.
14:21Detective Charmler.
14:22Ted Desai was found strangled on waste ground near Mudshute Park in Millwall between five and six yesterday afternoon.
14:33He was wearing a St. Anthony school uniform.
14:37And we're appealing to any member of the public who may have seen anything to please come forward.
14:42Is it true that identical notes were found on both the murder victims' pockets?
14:53Well, as both investigations are currently ongoing, there are certain details about the crime scenes which we're not at liberty to disclose.
15:02But we may be looking at a serial killer.
15:05Not necessarily.
15:06Inspector Charmler.
15:07Inspector Charmler.
15:08In which case are the murders related to those of Andrew Dillon?
15:11It's far too early to tell.
15:13Is the archer...
15:15Detective Inspector Charmler.
15:16Are you refusing to tell or don't you know?
15:18Do you believe we're not going to be racially motivated?
15:21Well, as I said, we're not ruling out anything at this stage of the investigation.
15:26Andrew Dillon's killings were racially motivated and he killed three boys before he was caught.
15:31Yes, but we don't know if there is any link with Andrew Dillon.
15:34Did you ask for the police?
15:37Were you relying on the British public to protect our children?
15:41Oh, I can assure you we are carrying out the most thorough forensic investigations and all my officers out there on the ground are doing their very best to find out who did this.
15:52Look, we didn't see Dev, right?
15:55Besides, he goes to post school for little pussies now because we're a bad influence.
16:00Dev's mum told us that he missed you both, said that you were his best mates.
16:06And we know that Dev skived off his school yesterday and that you two guys, you skived off your school as well.
16:14Oh, don't talk to my dad.
16:17Well, we don't care about that, Dean, but we do care that your friend was strangled to death.
16:22You know that.
16:23If you care so much, why aren't you solving it?
16:26That's what we do in Sunshine by talking to you lads.
16:29Now, do you want to help us find out who did this to Dev or what?
16:31Look, I told you, we didn't see Dev.
16:34Well, then we'll have to look on CCTV cameras for him, won't we?
16:37Yeah.
16:38We've got them everywhere now, lads.
16:40You know that, don't you?
16:41It might take us a little while to find out who did this to him.
16:45Look, we're on Bridge Street in Melbourne, near Greenland Shops.
16:49What did I tell you?
16:51They don't care about their school stuff.
16:53What were you doing there?
16:55By jacking, picking stuff up.
16:57From shops?
16:58No, from the ground.
17:01Very funny.
17:03What do you reckon, Bob?
17:04Should we nick them now?
17:06Was Dev picking up too?
17:08Yeah, only he got caught.
17:11And what time was this?
17:12About fans.
17:14And what shop?
17:14Look, I don't know.
17:16We split up.
17:18Me and Justin were at the far end.
17:20I'd just come out some computer shop, innit?
17:22I saw some police manhandling Dev.
17:25Dashed him to the ground, so we legged him.
17:29Local plot reckon none of their officers have reported any incidents in Greenland.
17:34So who would Dev decide if it wasn't a PCSO?
17:39What about a security guard?
17:40Nah, these kids are savvy about that now, Matt.
17:43He'd know the difference, surely.
17:45What, from 100 yards away running scared with stolen goods in your pockets?
17:49Although Sean Munro was moved on by a security guard.
17:53Marcus Wright, the man who rotates around shopping centres.
17:58I don't know him.
18:04Well, Marcus, we have a coincidence that's been bothering us.
18:09Two days ago, you had a run-in with Sean Munro, and he ended up dead.
18:18Yesterday, this boy had a run-in with a security guard and also ended up dead.
18:23Well, that is a coincidence.
18:25There's a lot of security guards out there, with good reason.
18:31But only one of them was with Sean Munro.
18:33You.
18:35Very busy area, Marcus.
18:37Plenty of witnesses.
18:38I'd have seen a young thief wrestle to the ground.
18:40Him.
18:45I forgot.
18:49Yes.
18:50He was stealing.
18:52I went after him, but he got away.
19:00He got away.
19:01Your witnesses will tell you that, too.
19:03Well, you see, now we're back with that coincidence.
19:10You were with both these boys just hours before they died.
19:14Coincidence is God's way of remaining anonymous.
19:18Both boys sinned.
19:21I see you read the Bible, Marcus.
19:24You put that back.
19:25That's my mother's.
19:29Marcus.
19:31God killed them, did he?
19:32I don't buy that as an explanation.
19:38A man bludgeoned Sean Munro.
19:41A man strangled Dev Desai.
19:45I will reduce the wicked to heaps of rubble.
19:47Put that back.
19:48I will destroy them, so that the memory of them will disappear.
19:52You don't hear me?
19:53Put that back.
19:53Put that back.
20:02Is that Sean Munro's crucifix?
20:14No, sir.
20:16Would you put your hand on your Bible and tell me that?
20:19We found this crucifix in your Bible.
20:27We also found this, sir.
20:31A St. Anthony medal, which we later found, was missing from Dev Desai's bag.
20:37Yes, sir.
20:43You do have the right to a solicitor.
20:47I don't need no legal person telling me what to say.
20:51I listen to the main man.
20:53Did you kill Sean Munro and Dev Desai?
21:02They were sinners.
21:04And God sought revenge.
21:07Through you?
21:10Plenty of sinners in London.
21:12Why pick on these two?
21:13I didn't pick them.
21:17God did.
21:22This one.
21:26Was looking at pornography.
21:30Well, lots of people do that.
21:32But not with a crucifix around their neck.
21:37I let him go.
21:40But later.
21:43God put him back in my path.
21:48That one.
21:53Ripped off an image of St. Anthony.
21:58In prayer.
22:00While two other sinners looked up.
22:05Is that why you grabbed him?
22:08He went into a shop, stole some perfume.
22:11He ran out.
22:13But I caught him.
22:15But he kicked me and got away.
22:18So you followed him.
22:19When St. Anthony died.
22:29Children cried in the streets.
22:33That one was laughing.
22:36When St. Anthony died.
22:40All the bells of the churches rang up there on a cord.
22:43Angels came down from heaven and made it home.
22:52Did God come down and make you kill these boys?
23:01They had to be destroyed.
23:02Did you write those notes?
23:06Did you write those notes?
23:07God did.
23:08Through me.
23:13And did you get the idea from Andrew Dillon?
23:18No, sir.
23:19Then why write the notes?
23:24If you were doing God's work.
23:28Why hide behind Dillon?
23:31Dillon didn't kill any of those boys.
23:36I killed them.
23:39All of them.
23:40This is a sick attempt to take credit for another killer's crimes.
23:54I said the same thing.
23:57But he knows places.
24:02Times of death.
24:03He kept the souvenirs that they never found.
24:08A football shirt's just been identified by the parents of the second victim.
24:17Maybe he knew Dillon.
24:19Helped him hide the evidence.
24:22We spent over a year working on this.
24:25We got the right man.
24:26Marcus Wright claims that there was a fourth boy killed after Dillon went down.
24:37The boy was white.
24:41Marcus Wright said that he caught the lad's ceiling from a church.
24:47Strangled him and buried him.
24:49The police have dug up the skeleton of a Caucasian boy where Marcus said he would be buried.
24:56They found a note in the pocket of his anaerobic.
25:01No, no, no.
25:02All the other boys were dumped in public places.
25:06Why would he suddenly start burying his victims?
25:08His mum was ill.
25:11She needed him.
25:12He didn't want to be found.
25:15But then he confessed to her.
25:19And she begged him to stop.
25:21His mum died a few weeks ago.
25:26If Marcus Wright is guilty, it can't be your fault.
25:41James.
25:45It's him.
25:47We've put away the wrong man.
25:49God, what a mess.
25:55How the hell did this happen?
25:57We didn't act unfairly.
25:59We presented the evidence.
26:01Dillon was a known racist who terrorized kids in the same area as the murders.
26:06He sold knockoff trainers to the first boy.
26:09His handwriting matched notes found on the bodies.
26:12He was seen fighting with the last victim and even had his DNA under his fingernails.
26:17Well, they're expediting his appeal against wrongful conviction.
26:21Don't ask me to feel sorry for Dillon.
26:23He lived and breathed pure hate.
26:25Yeah, but that may well be the case.
26:27But locking Dillon up led to three more boys being killed.
26:36Malfeasance in public office.
26:38You can't target individuals.
26:50Well, you did.
26:52You willfully abused your powers to build your case against my client, Andrew Dillon.
27:01We did everything by the book.
27:03The jury found him guilty.
27:07Selective prosecution, Mr. Steele.
27:17Mrs. Janice Hunter made a statement to the police six years ago,
27:23saying that she saw the third victim an hour after he was seen fighting with my client.
27:29The boy was in Channing Arcade,
27:33arguing with an older man whose description fits Marcus Wright.
27:39Yeah, he was a black man.
27:42The witness has since died.
27:50I've never seen this before.
27:52Oh, come on, Mr. Steele.
27:55We both know you buried it.
27:57It's the basis of our claim against you.
28:01We intend to investigate every last detail of your case.
28:06So do we.
28:07And sue you for 300,000 pounds.
28:11And that will never be enough.
28:14You know, I spent five years in a cell about the size of a disabled.
28:18And every time I stepped out, I took my own life in my hands.
28:22And you sent me there as a marked man.
28:27The evidence all pointed towards you.
28:32Yeah.
28:33After you tampered with it.
28:37And then there was your criminal record.
28:39How many boys of ethnic minority had you beaten up exactly?
28:44Well, that's hardly relevant here.
28:47We're talking about three dead boys.
28:51What we need...
28:51Look, look.
28:52It's your prejudice, not mine.
28:55You decided the killer had to be white.
28:57Because of your inverted races that Mike got put inside.
29:02And as soon as I was arrested, I got beaten up.
29:05Oh, now you know how those boys felt.
29:09Yeah, now I get panic attacks.
29:11And my face is in the paper.
29:13All because you persecuted me.
29:16No one gave me a statement saying that Dylan's victim was seen later with another man.
29:36I don't remember.
29:37It would have jeopardized our entire case.
29:39They're saying that was your motivation.
29:42If I'd have seen it, I'd have handed it over however grudgingly.
29:46Well, who worked with you on this?
29:50There were a whole team of us, eight or nine, during the busiest months.
29:56Who was your lead assistant?
29:58Claudia Martin.
30:00Great prosecutor.
30:02Then let's talk to her.
30:05See if she remembers anything.
30:06When I heard about Marcus Wright, I thought James would get in touch.
30:18He would have come down himself, but he's trying to track down everyone else in the team.
30:24It must be frantic.
30:26So how did Dylan's brief find this statement?
30:30He wouldn't say.
30:31But James has no recollection of it.
30:33Hmm, neither do I.
30:35I mean, you'd remember something like that coming in.
30:38Certainly would have helped Dylan's defense.
30:41There were a few statements before to keep out of court, but not that one.
30:46We can't find any record of it.
30:49But then, there are boxes of case files to go through.
30:54Tell me about it.
30:55That's a year of my life I'll never get back.
30:58And to think this is the outcome of those poor boys.
31:04So how long have you worked with James?
31:07A few years.
31:09Intense, isn't it?
31:11I couldn't keep up the pace.
31:13I sold out to private practice.
31:15You know, which is fine.
31:17Apart from the clients.
31:18Well, if you remember anything.
31:24Did you speak to the rest of the team?
31:27The ones I could track down.
31:28Three of them have quit the CPS, saying they were overworked and underpaid.
31:32Never.
31:33And the ones I did speak to, also were blind they never saw the statement.
31:38Reception receives packages from the police most days.
31:41All the deliveries are signed for and logged when they come in.
31:45Can you go back and check all the log books?
31:47Of course, and the receptionists.
31:50You know, what if it didn't come in?
31:53The police wanted to put Dylan away as much as we did.
31:57We're tracking down the receptionists who worked here at the time.
32:00If they remembered the Esperance bringing it then, then...
32:03I don't need anyone else's work for it.
32:05I trust Ronnie.
32:08But a missing witness statement, that could amount to a criminal offence.
32:13It's my duty to investigate that.
32:14I've got no choice, George.
32:17Fine.
32:17Go ahead.
32:19But I know and trust my people too, and we have got nothing to hide.
32:22That statement was the last thing any of us knew.
32:29Well, I know, yeah.
32:30Do you remember what you did with it?
32:32Well, I would have put it on the disc, you know, made a hard copy and brought it to your offices with any other evidence that we had.
32:38When?
32:38Well, I don't know.
32:40It would have been addressed to you, though, James.
32:41Do you remember who you gave it to?
32:43I can't.
32:43Well, look, a receptionist, I guess.
32:45Which one?
32:46Oh, I don't know.
32:47Young female wearing a suit.
32:48That could be any of them.
32:50Well, it was six years ago, James.
32:51I'm sorry, mate.
32:52I need you to check the database to see what date you entered the statement.
32:56I will, but have you checked your office log?
32:58I see who's signed for it.
33:00Alicia's going through the records right now, but I'm up against it here.
33:03By the time she finds them, I could be disbarred.
33:05I'm sorry.
33:06What, you think it's our fault?
33:09No, that's not what I'm saying.
33:11What's going on?
33:12Well, the CPS have lost some evidence and they're blaming us.
33:16No, I am not blaming anyone.
33:18I need to find out what happened.
33:22Look, could you have made a mistake back then during that time?
33:28Sorry, James.
33:30What exactly do you mean back then during that time?
33:34We all make mistakes.
33:37Outside pressures get to us.
33:39Why not just say what you're thinking, James?
33:44Could a member of your team have buried the evidence and what you brought to me...
33:49I can't believe you actually said it.
33:50You got balls.
33:51I'll give you that much.
33:52Leave it, Matt.
33:52It's okay.
33:53James, I handed it into the office.
33:56James, I'm sorry.
33:57I can't remember to who or when.
33:59Look, I really need to find this.
34:01I need to find the statement.
34:02That does not mean that you can come here and accuse my officers.
34:05No, I'm not accusing anyone.
34:07If you've misled evidence that we brought to your door, that's your cock-up, not ours.
34:11So get your own house in order.
34:12James, D.I. Chandler is just fine.
34:30The details of Janice Hunter's statement were entered onto the police database.
34:42Yeah, the Silsen guarantee came here.
34:44Dillon's defense team received a copy of the witness schedule three days later.
34:51Janice Hunter's name and statement weren't on it.
34:54That schedule came from the CPS, so somebody in these offices must have deleted it.
35:05So somebody in these offices must have signed for it.
35:08Now we know exactly when it was here.
35:10We can find out who was on reception.
35:11They might remember who they gave it to.
35:14James, it's too late.
35:15James Steele.
35:28I'm arresting you on suspicion of perverting the courts of justice.
35:33You do not have to say anything, but it may hold your defense if you do not mention when questioned something which you later rely on in court.
35:41Anything you do say may be given in evidence.
35:45To the charge of perverting the courts of justice, how do you plead?
36:07Not guilty.
36:10Mr. Kane?
36:11My lord, Crown objects to bail on the grounds that the defendant will interfere with witnesses,
36:20having already aggressively approached the police investigation team at their place of work and asked for their help.
36:29I wasn't interfering with the witness, my lord.
36:31I'd thank Mr. Steele not to interrupt,
36:32and to remember that he is present in this courtroom first and foremost as a defendant.
36:38Bail will be granted with appropriate conditions.
36:45My lord, one more thing.
36:47I would like to conduct my defense from counsel's room.
36:51Crown objects on the basis that this may be confusing to the jury.
36:56How can it be fair and just for me to conduct my defense from the dock?
36:59I can't possibly be afforded a fair trial in these circumstances.
37:04I'll allow it.
37:06I think we can trust the jury to understand that Mr. Steele is on trial.
37:13You brought me in to do an impartial job.
37:16And to do that, I will need access to everything.
37:19Sorry, but my...
37:21If you haven't been properly introduced, Samuel Kane.
37:26Alicia Phillips.
37:31Miss Phillips, given that I'm going to be calling you as a witness,
37:34I'm afraid it's not appropriate for you to be working in here.
37:38In the interests of a fair trial...
37:40This is my office.
37:43And not anymore.
37:44So please, take what you need,
37:47and then if you could set up in the paralegal's office.
37:51We've cleared a space for you.
37:53It's just a temporary measure, Alicia.
38:02All right, well, I'll leave you to it.
38:04Don't disappear.
38:05I need to go through a few details with you from my opening.
38:14Uh, Miss Phillips, uh, can you give us a moment?
38:31Hey.
38:33How are you doing?
38:34I need you to do something for me.
38:37Get me these files from the CPS.
38:40They should be in the old personnel system,
38:42so you might need to do some digging,
38:43but specifically, these dates in August, six years ago.
38:47James, I'm not allowed near our office.
38:49I'm not sure that I can.
38:51Please, this is really important.
38:53I have to find out who was in the office when that evidence came in.
38:56James, I...
38:56It's my only hope.
38:58I wouldn't ask you otherwise.
38:59Uh, wait.
39:02Ah, it's my favorite.
39:03I ain't going to do...
39:04I ain't going to do high.
39:04I ain't gonna do high.
39:05Ah...
39:05...
39:18And I could have to find out who was in the office,
39:19and quickly slowed down.
39:20Let's go.
39:50Let's go.
40:20But he likes me to challenge him.
40:23Do you have to challenge him often, Miss Phillips?
40:26Yes.
40:29I mean, he...
40:30Did you have to challenge him during the Don Marsh case?
40:33I don't remember.
40:36Let me remind you.
40:38The defendant told Donald Marsh, a known criminal, that he had a witness who was willing to place him at the scene of a crime.
40:49When, in fact, he had no such assurance.
40:54Do you recall the case?
40:56Yes.
40:58Did you approve of those methods?
41:02Not at first, but I trust...
41:04Yes or no, Miss Phillips?
41:08No.
41:09Miss Phillips...
41:13Has the defendant ever asked you to do anything dishonest?
41:22Anything that might make you feel compromised in the eyes of the law?
41:27No.
41:40Miss Martin, you worked very closely with the defendant on the Andrew Dillon case.
41:47Yes.
41:4818-hour days were usual.
41:50Did you ever see him do anything illegal?
41:53No, but...
41:55Please, go on, Miss Martin.
42:02He'd interview several expert witnesses before he found the one who said what he needed.
42:09So did the defendant unfairly coerce these witnesses?
42:14He told the handwriting expert on the Dillon case that his evidence could prevent more children being killed.
42:22This is hearsay from a prejudiced witness, my lord.
42:25Far from it.
42:27My lord, Miss Martin was a devoted employee.
42:30You'll have your chance to cross-examine, Mr. Steele.
42:37Miss Martin, why did you leave the CPS?
42:41I was uncomfortable with the defendant's way of working.
42:48He was absolutely determined to convict Andrew Dillon.
42:52Did you delete Janice Hunter's witness statement?
42:58No.
42:59I knew nothing about it.
43:00Thank you, Miss Martin.
43:03No further questions, my lord.
43:11Is it true you were having an affair with the defendant during that time?
43:31When did this happen?
43:32Could you answer the question, please?
43:38My lord, is the, uh, witness's sexual history really relevant?
43:44Absolutely, my lord.
43:46If we're to believe this witness's testimony, I must be allowed to question her motive for wanting to sully the reputation of a former colleague.
43:54I'll allow it.
43:55Hmm.
43:58Could you answer the question, please, yes or no?
44:01Yes, I was.
44:07How long did the affair last?
44:09Almost a year.
44:10Who ended the relationship?
44:11You did.
44:12How did you feel when it ended?
44:23Had you not told the defendant that you loved him?
44:27You planned a future together?
44:29You bastard.
44:34Sorry, was that a yes or a no, Miss Martin?
44:36Yes, I told you I loved you.
44:38And when the affair ended, didn't you feel betrayed?
44:43So betrayed, in fact, that you claimed you could no longer carry on working at the CPS.
44:49Betrayal is an interesting choice of word coming from a man who was cheating on his wife.
44:53You're using this trial as a platform for revenge.
44:56You're lying about your reasons for leaving the CPS.
45:00You used me.
45:06You know, I'd have done anything for you.
45:13Anything.
45:14Which is exactly why the jury should see your evidence for what it is.
45:23The emotional backlash of a woman scorned.
45:27Did you get it?
45:48This is everything.
45:51All the receptions.
45:57What?
45:59You really will do anything to win, won't you?
46:03I had to discredit her evidence against me.
46:09So she was just collateral damage?
46:12Yeah.
46:18Do you know what your success rate is as a prosecutor?
46:35No, I have no idea.
46:36I don't keep a record of this.
46:39But I can tell you.
46:4293%.
46:43Which is very high.
46:48Are you proud of those results?
46:52I'd be happier if it was 100.
46:55Is that what drives you, Mr. Steele?
46:59Winning?
47:02No.
47:04It's about doing my job properly.
47:06If I believe the accused to be guilty,
47:11I have to do everything I can to prove that to the jury.
47:16Everything you can?
47:18Tell me, after Dr. Alec Merrick was acquitted of rape
47:23in Crown and Merrick 2009,
47:26is it true that you then had him publicly arrested
47:30on a fictional rape charge?
47:33Dr. Alec Merrick abused his position
47:37and attacked 14 women.
47:41I used the system to get him back into court.
47:44I would say you found a highly questionable loophole.
47:50No, I gave his victims a voice
47:52by exploiting a flaw in the system.
47:55A flaw in the system?
47:56Yes.
47:57Mr. Steele,
47:58Are you so assured of your own abilities
48:02that you believe you're somehow
48:03above the legal system in this country?
48:07I'm sorry.
48:08I didn't realize I was on trial here
48:10for the successful prosecution of a serial rapist.
48:14You're not.
48:15But in order to try and give your victims
48:17their voice, as you put it,
48:19you take the law into your own hands, Mr. Steele.
48:24And for that,
48:26you are on trial.
48:27I do my best to work within a system
48:31that I cherish and respect.
48:35These courtrooms are...
48:38They're cathedrals to anyone
48:41that believes in a fair and just society.
48:43Who in these cathedrals,
48:47Mr. Steele,
48:49allowed you to play God?
48:52And who are you to say
48:55who is guilty or innocent,
48:58regardless of the law?
49:00It isn't about playing God, Mr. Cain.
49:02Are you sure?
49:03Absolutely yes.
49:05There is no value whatsoever
49:07in putting away the wrong man
49:09for my pride or your statistics,
49:11because they mean nothing.
49:12To stand where you're standing now
49:17is an honor, Mr. Cain.
49:19And that honor carries a responsibility.
49:23The responsibility, if necessary,
49:26to take away someone's liberty.
49:28Which is why the abuse of that responsibility
49:30is such a serious crime.
49:32What happens, Mr. Steele,
49:34when you see a piece of evidence
49:36which shatters
49:38your clear-cut image
49:41of right and wrong?
49:43I go back and I rebuild my case.
49:47Because that's what we do, you and I.
49:49We build walls.
49:52Pieces of evidence
49:54Evidence are like blocks of stone,
49:58and each block is dragged into place
50:00so that when we stand in court,
50:02we have a wall that can't be breached.
50:05If defense have something
50:07that can take away one of those blocks,
50:10the walls come tumbling down
50:12and I lose.
50:13We all lose
50:14because I haven't done my job properly.
50:17Which is precisely why we're here.
50:21Who was the lead prosecutor on this case?
50:24I was.
50:25So who should ultimately
50:27take responsibility
50:28for you not doing your job
50:32for this terrible
50:34miscarriage of justice?
50:40If I'd seen that statement,
50:43I would never have buried it,
50:47knowing that the real killer
50:49could still be out there
50:50and might kill again.
50:52With the evidence incomplete,
50:53Mr. Steele,
50:54that is exactly
50:55what happened.
51:00Your walls
51:01came tumbling
51:03down.
51:13No further questions,
51:15my lord.
51:15My lord,
51:26I'd like to call
51:28one further witness.
51:30It's very late in the day,
51:32Mr. Steele.
51:32I apologize
51:33for that, my lord.
51:35I'd like to call
51:37Sally Ann Hope
51:39to the witness box.
51:40I swear by a mighty God
52:02that the evidence I shall give
52:03should be the truth,
52:05the whole truth,
52:05and nothing but the truth.
52:07What do you do for a living,
52:10Ms. Hope?
52:10I'm a paralegal secretary.
52:13Have you always done legal work?
52:14Yes, ever since I started out
52:16as a temp.
52:18And you did temp work
52:20at the CPS,
52:21Luggate Hill?
52:23Yes.
52:24When did you work there,
52:25precisely?
52:26Six years ago
52:28for two weeks
52:29in August.
52:31Your memory
52:32seems very clear
52:33on this.
52:34Can you tell the court
52:35why?
52:36It was during the build-up
52:37to the Andrew Dillon trial.
52:39It was all over
52:40the news.
52:41I remember the police
52:42coming around
52:42to the house
52:43telling us to be careful
52:44not to let anyone
52:45under 16 out
52:46on their own.
52:47And how did that
52:48affect you personally?
52:50My brother
52:51was 10 at the time.
52:53I had to get him
52:55to school
52:56before I could
52:56come to work.
52:57It was my first job
52:59and I was worried
52:59about being late.
53:01Do you remember
53:02a CID officer
53:05coming to reception
53:06on the 11th of August?
53:09Yes.
53:10He gave me a package
53:11said it contained
53:12evidence about
53:13the Dillon case.
53:15What did you do
53:16with that package?
53:17First chance I got,
53:18I handed it to one
53:19of the prosecution team.
53:20Do you remember
53:23who you gave it to,
53:24Miss Hope?
53:25Yes.
53:27Is that person
53:29here in the courtroom
53:31today?
53:35Yes.
53:39Could you point them
53:40out to the jury, please?
53:44It was that lady there.
53:50In relation to the count
54:07of perverting
54:08the course of justice,
54:10do you find
54:10the defendant,
54:12James Steele,
54:13guilty or not guilty?
54:19Not guilty.
54:20You can't blame yourself,
54:50James.
54:53You can only do
54:54what we believe
54:55is right.
54:59I should have known.
55:10Despite
55:11my recent acquittal,
55:14there was a miscarriage
55:15of justice
55:16for which I hold
55:18myself responsible.
55:21That wrongful conviction
55:23led to the deaths
55:25of three children,
55:27which is unforgivable.
55:30Therefore,
55:30my position
55:31has become untenable
55:33and
55:33I'm resigning
55:36from the CPS
55:37with immediate effect.
55:38It's weird.
55:56Coming to work
55:57and you're not there.
55:59You'll get used to it.
56:00I bet you'll have forgotten
56:03I was in there
56:04in a few weeks.
56:06Don't be silly.
56:08It'll be a few days
56:09once I've cleared
56:10your desk out.
56:11Alicia.
56:21Alicia.
56:22It's George.
56:36I'm on my way
56:47back now.
56:50I spoke to the woman
56:52at Long Life Direct.
56:54You can either
56:55pick up the hard copies
56:56or
56:57ask her.
57:08Oh,
57:09that I can email them.
57:11Mm-hmm.
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