The Jeremy Kyle Show 16th March 2018
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00:10On today's show...
00:13Who's Charlie and why are you here?
00:15Charlie used to be my best friend.
00:17She thinks I'm lying about being pregnant and...
00:20I've got the proof!
00:24Yeah, but you can print it off the internet!
00:26What, with my name on it? Clearly not!
00:30You're the last six times!
00:31He's got an ear on it!
00:36All the time when I see you tell her,
00:37Becky's done this, Becky's done that!
00:38That's where we're mates, we're mates now!
00:40What's he got to do with you anyway?
00:43Oi, go away!
00:48I told him I'd gone into labour with our child.
00:51He stayed in bed and said,
00:52sort the kids out yourself.
00:56I asked for some clothes over there where they're gone.
00:58I mean, you've got another expense coming, haven't you?
01:02You're going to tell her what it is?
01:11I'm a chair, I can't...
01:12I'm not freaking!
01:13I don't know, man!
01:14I've offered to pay for the stuff.
01:16I said, I would drive and buy the stuff.
01:17You're like, no, I want the money.
01:18I'm like, I will buy the stuff and bring it.
01:20I know it's getting spent on kids.
01:21You've got to understand that.
01:22When you get a van off in your new car with your new bird
01:24and your new baby, this is damn hard for this girl.
01:26MUSIC PLAYS
01:28WITH
01:30INSTRUCTION
01:31CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
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01:42Come on, friends!
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01:47Hello, my friends, good morning.
01:48And a big, big welcome to the show.
01:50Now, my first guest today, you might just recognise
01:52from a previous encounter take a look at this she's going out with the blow she
01:57doesn't want to share her bed with I think she'd be going out with him so
02:00your thing is have your own room no jump into bed with me and my boyfriend why
02:04would you allow that to happen I didn't I used to fall asleep fast the bit I
02:08don't get about you is you are absolutely proud to announce that now
02:12he's with her and since he's been with her you've had sex with him ten times
02:18it's not sleeping with Chelsea I told you from day one when he used to come to
02:22man we were sleeping together Becky it was taking me saying that he wants to be
02:26with me he wants to be families and he was saying that he regrets game would be a
02:30and you're a relationship wrecker you're loving this aren't you every time
02:35it's not a game at all if you have an argument with Becky just go around to her
02:40don't you and vice versa because you know she loves you still don't you what's
02:44that for I want to watch over ten for bash pole if you are over him stop
02:49sleeping with him stop contacting him and raise the other cheek you get on with
02:53your girlfriend wash over your shoulder your mate might try on with her again you
02:57two that way you three that way so as you can see Becky and Chelsea were both
03:04arguing over the same man and it even came out that they all shared the same bed
03:07however check this today Becky and Chelsea are back on this show having sorted out the
03:11differences and here to confront their ex best mate Charlie first up is Becky
03:15who says that Charlie has spread malicious lies about her and has even
03:19accused her of having sex with her boyfriend Becky is back on the Jeremy
03:23Carl show that way
03:32the last time you were you and Chelsea were at loggerheads but now your mates yeah
03:36why who's Charlie and why are you here I'm confused Charlie used to be my best
03:41friend right why is she here then she thinks I'm lying about being pregnant yeah you
03:45have could you lie in the past six times I didn't lie Charlie
03:49I've got the proof yeah but you could print it off the internet what with my name on it
03:56yeah Charlie's holding my back clearly not yeah yeah Charlie's holding my back clearly not
03:59yeah I got it from Scunthorpe General General why are you here anyway because she's lied in the past
04:14about being pregnant and she's like my partner now my partner Nathan well I got
04:23a statement from that you've not slept with Nathan not why are you saying she
04:26slept with Nathan she made it to me on the phone and then when I asked on
04:28Facebook she denied it Nathan says I slept with Becky last year when me and
04:32Charlie were on a break I never slept with name we only did it once we were even
04:35considering getting into a relationship but she ended up getting up getting with
04:38someone else she needs to stop lying about being pregnant I don't think she is but
04:42if she is pregnant I would want a DNA test because I would hope it's not mine
04:45Chelsea and Becky share men and sleep with the same person they're vile low-life
04:50scum
04:53you just like get off like me all the time when I see you tell her Becky's done this Becky's done that
04:58that's where we want mates we're mates now what's he going to do with you anyway
05:02all right go away until I knew why did you come on until I said you could come on go away
05:06why why why is she so against you because you had sex with her boyfriend why did you have sex with her boyfriend I never had sex with him I didn't have sex with Nathan we slept in
05:26the same room and he slept on the sofa I slept in the bed did anything happen at all no nothing
05:31happened he came for a takeaway energy what he came to buy his take oh he came and
05:35for a takeaway
05:38Charlie's a hypocrite she's always tried to ruin my life and my past relationships
05:43she say she's a shoplifter it's getting better this she did use to shoplift
05:49shut up shoplifter
05:51she just basically accuses me of everything she's accused me of not being pregnant when I've got the proof she's
05:58accused me of sleeping with Nathan when I've not slept with Nathan do you think she's jealous of you that's what
06:02you think isn't it I think I think she steals from shops petty stuff like energy drinks when she's
06:08knackered it's like robbing from a bank when you've got no money isn't it it used to be just the pound energy drinks
06:15what it used to be just pound energy drinks such a woman is about to make a debut on the Jeremy Kyle show
06:21accused of stealing energy drinks worth a pound Charlie's on the Jeremy Kyle show that way
06:34that's why I make them heavy yes what's the man with you why are you so angry with her talk to me
06:40because she's lied about pregnant in the past have you Jimmy yes she has because when I found out I was
06:45pregnant and last year when I lost it she turned around and said she was pregnant and two weeks later
06:49she said she lost it did you lie Charlie that's my past why do you hold my past against me so you
06:54didn't you still lied about being pregnant I have in the past I hold my hand up I've lied about a few
06:58things in the past you say and I quote she's always lying she sent a scam picture to me with a
07:02different name on it to hers it's disgusting some people can't even have kids she needs to wise up
07:07right answer that you're just grinning your name is what when you say the child when you sent me the
07:12photo I couldn't see well why does it matter what you think anyway you're with Nathan why don't you
07:18butt out of her business why is he so good she's lying in the past she's lying in the past
07:23it said you didn't I not be pregnant before why would I believe her now it said my name at the top of it
07:28Charlie who's Chelsea and the one who always thinks she's people's mates when she falls out
07:39with Becky she comes to thought that she comes she said when Nathan no she's on the Jeremy can't show
07:46that way you stay that she's lying they don't look if it looks at the same as to me like she was
08:00Charlie that's clearly well it could come off the internet like people do when it's got a name on
08:06clearly and it still can and it says where it's from yeah it still can some people can do I don't
08:11understand what you're arguing about pregnancy notes I can show you why is it important it's her
08:16business well she's lied in the past why have you suddenly become the moral stance of everything
08:21then why does it matter because it's just young stupid immature girls bitching isn't it because
08:27all you do is sleep with the same men and get jealous that's what this is about isn't it no
08:31I'm not jealous I'm not bullying her you couldn't write before Christmas you came to me in town and I
08:37couldn't even get my mom to make this that you were slagging her off Becky this Becky who's Angie and my
08:44boyfriend's step-mom which boyfriend Nathan I've only got one and she's on the Jeremy car show as well
08:52I'm not lying I'm not lying you do who are you I'm a friend step-mom yeah step-mom he slept with her
09:13Nathan and her yeah no I've never slept with Nathan oh no you're a step-mom god that didn't work
09:19she's disgusting dirty she wouldn't know the father is what she wouldn't know the father my father to
09:28my baby is Josh and I know isn't no because you don't but we thought the way to deal with this
09:36was to discover whether in fact she's a habitual liar or is pregnant so we sent her for a scan just so
09:41you're aware take a look at this we did interestingly a gender scan not only is she pregnant but I'm gonna
09:49tell you something else as well you don't know this guess what what do you think you're having a boy you
09:55are having a boy give her a round of applause
09:57what I like about this girl is she came out and she said she's made mistakes you come out here shouting
10:09the odds I know I absolutely know why you don't like her because she had sex with your boyfriend
10:13doesn't make you feel very good but you were on a break weren't you can't tell me I'm lying now can you
10:18it's there well like I said no she's pregnant with a boy love so stop making up lies I don't want
10:31nothing to do who's the father Josh she's made mistakes I'm sure you have I'm a busy man why
10:37don't you just go and get on with your life and let them get on with those if you can't be civil
10:41for each other no never the train shall meet what a perfect ending you took it that way you took it
10:53that way give her a round of applause I told him I'd gone into labor with our child he stayed in bed
11:01and said sort the kids out yourself I asked for some clothes over there while they're gone you've got
11:08another expense coming haven't you don't tell her what it is
11:32it's all kicking off security
11:38this test is you're a liar love
11:42this isn't about you this is about your children
11:46oh here we go
11:47okay more happiness after
11:50oh get off
11:54no no no no
11:56oh my lord
12:00we need phillips go through
12:02us to put up with this
12:03our DNA doubts ruining your relationship is an ex refusing to accept paternity
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12:30welcome back
12:40my next guest today natasha says it's time for her ex no good jamie to step up and be a father of their children
12:46she says since they split two years ago he's forgotten all of his responsibilities
12:50he hasn't seen his kids he hasn't paid for his kids and she says to be honest he doesn't even seem to care about them
12:57she says this entire situation has been made worse by the fact that jamie's new girlfriend
13:01courtney is sticking a nose in where it's not wanted and distracting him from being a father
13:06she says this is jamie's last chance to be a dad to their kids because they need to have him in their life
13:13big day for this lady brave as well natasha's on the jeremy karl show that way
13:16i'm having one of those days where people are looking at me in a very strange way natasha
13:28welcome to the show ex-partner to jamie together six years why are you here sweetheart i'm here for
13:32my kids how many kids three how old one two and four how long were you with him for six years did you
13:39look did you how did it finish what what happened why are we i i split up with him because it was i was
13:44i text him on facebook and i told him it was over did you not just say to about the kitchen door and
13:49i'm sorry i don't want to be with you anymore did you know it was out in a car whilst his daughter's
13:55basically dying in hospital because she had joined us so it's a poor excuse for a dad he's never stepped
14:01up he's never been a father always excuses the most he's bought is nappies yeah so how long have you
14:07been away because he's this guy just to give you an idea has stopped paying his csa why yeah i don't know
14:13he's stopped his benefits he's stopped everything this guy's got a car yeah tell them this just
14:18slow down tell them this story this is disgusting he's got a he bought a bmw doesn't matter about
14:24what car but this guy lives four miles away refuses to drive she has to walk or take the bus take the
14:30kid to see him and you've got what a polyphot that he's operating on and wants me to walk with i told him
14:36i'd gone into labor with our child he stayed in bed and said sort the kids out yourself
14:42how is it how is it for you it's hard right it's really hard you're bringing them up on your own
14:47yep no financial support from this guy who rang this show sweet it was me i'm going to tell you
14:53something because a lot of people come out here and they're very confident and the audience will see
14:57all sorts of people i really really respect you for what you do with your kids and the fact that you're
15:01here he's scared of me apparently what you don't have to be nice well i want him to come out here
15:05and explain to me why he doesn't do more i don't care if he hates you now one of the issues is
15:09is that you think the new girlfriend's in his ear yeah this is courtney she's been in a relationship
15:15with jamie for a year and three months you seem to think that that she's sort of a bit full of
15:19herself is she wearing the trousers yeah she is definitely she sent you some messages didn't she
15:24yeah she called me a dirty little rat let's see this message listen you need to stop messing
15:30jeremy about you dirty little rat you say he hasn't bothered with the kids for a month yet you stop
15:34them seeing him are you actually something or something else grow up and start acting your age
15:38really abusive yep courtney's on the jeremy kyle show that way
15:41why are you sending her viral messages is who the hell do you think you are why don't you keep me
15:51nose out of it she's the one getting people to send me she's got three kids she's given her jack
16:01nothing in terms of money she blocks him all the time blocks him all the time why isn't he defending
16:06and paying for his children well he's paying for him now oh now blimey my darling how long have you
16:11been with him huh they took it out two weeks ago no no they didn't i have not had a penny yet
16:16they what did you just do to her oh because you're 20 you've got his heart haven't you're
16:20going to be the woman that changes him right i never said i was do you not think that a man
16:25should morally pay for a child is then why is it only just now why did he stop making csa payments
16:31go on help me out honestly i don't know myself why they've stopped what's this woman done wrong
16:37bringing up three young kids i know that he's got medical problems and your backside of a boyfriend
16:42won't even drive his car to see her that's not to do with me that bit well hold on a minute you told my
16:47team repeatedly he's tried tell me courtney he's tried he's tried messaging but obviously being blocked
16:53he's tried messing on facebook being blocked again he's had to get his mum to message why have you
16:56blocked him if you want his help talk i bought him because he was arguing with me and calling me
17:00everything under the sun i said to him i will talk to his mum but i will not talk to him the way he's
17:05talked to me you say that you're you think that she's jealous she won't let you meet the kids no
17:09you shouldn't damn well meet the kids at the moment the father should be saying i'm in a relationship
17:13with you i'm going to go and be a dad to those kids get their confidence get some regularity in their
17:18lives and then you can be involved every time you've been to see his kids he takes them to his mums and i
17:26say um i don't meet the kids why is the why isn't jamie on the birth certificate of the youngest child
17:30though with respect i did i i booked the appointment he said he was at work and he couldn't get it off
17:36and then i tried again a few weeks ago i said i need your signature for this farm and he still
17:40hadn't done it he still hadn't come down to get it i think you've basically both got a bit of a
17:43with both just no i think you've got a wuss stuck in the middle who hasn't got the balls to stand up
17:48and be counted i'm not decrying i'm not decrying that you love jamie and you think he's great
17:56that's what happens in relationships but as a woman as a woman spare a thought for this lady shouldn't
18:02cheat on him their relationship ended she's bringing up three kids under five five yeah medical issues very
18:08little money that would make it very hard not only would it make it very hard it would make it very
18:12bitter when your your ex is gallivanting around with his new with his new girlfriend in his car
18:17and i i actually quite like this lady because you came out and i i go by eyes and face and i think
18:21that's sort of resonated with you that i mean this isn't this woman isn't sitting here calling you
18:25every name under the sun this woman's sitting here saying i'm just struggling and even now i'm on
18:30this show i don't want to be on this show but i'm here because i'm trying to do what's right by my kids
18:34yeah i'll get that jamie get out here now
18:50do you understand their reaction i do understand reaction but sorry i think you are lying there i've
18:54been there from day one you were pregnant with the kids i tried to beat scans you won't let me go you
18:59got security to remove me out of the hospital you took your dad in to give birth you won't let me
19:03there every time i've been there i have provided for the kids you i said to you i won't give you
19:10money right because you're known for stealing you stole money from scratch card you stole money from
19:14kids that was the past i said to you i've messaged you plenty of times i said i will buy the stuff for
19:18the kids i said what nappies i need i'll come buy some nappies like no they've got plenty nappies all right
19:22what food i'll buy some food i'll buy some gas and electric it's like no i don't need it you won't
19:26ask for gas and electric though you don't even ask for food either i can get all the messages i can
19:30prove it i have sent i i i asked for some clothes over there where they're gone i said i have been
19:34working a minute and i said when i get you can afford a Mercedes which i'm not running at a minute
19:40i'm not running it's not running you you're making out i go around driving about it i don't
19:44you've got another expense coming haven't you you want to tell her what it is i've got a baby
19:49at where but i know i'm going to be there every step at where
19:56thank you mate i like the fact jamie you took a walk it's not your problem she's in love with me
20:00and it's it i feel sorry for the girl but uh fair play to me took a walk straight
20:07fair play to you jay do you know what i i thought you're going to go in the opposite direction you
20:11stood up without even being asked listen this is horrible she's still in love
20:14wait for me i don't want to hear me it's not your fault look at tash tash listen it's horrible
20:20why are you getting upset about it
20:22i've got three kids you don't understand i've tried to be there
20:26i've tried to be there for this kid i want you at least i'm going to get given a chance to be there
20:30for this kid i've tried every step at where no you are i've been so all right so you're telling me
20:35i ain't try to go out instead did you get so when did you last see your kids did you christmas because
20:38you bought me after i messaged you you bought me i got rid of this blocking rubbish i saw i
20:43messaged your grandma your grandma to talk to i messaged shirley you know where i'll talk to you
20:47you know where i'll talk to you i spoke to your best mate you won't even knock on my door i've been
20:49to your house you wasn't in you wasn't in you wasn't in you know i go on a school run you know i don't
20:53get back how many times you go around when she wasn't in come on jay i've been three times a week
20:58i respect you for the fact that you got out of your chair and you came after let's just nail this as it is
21:02right this girl with medical problems and three young kids and no money and probably although
21:08she doesn't want to admit it probably feelings for the father of a kid sees you gallivanting off in
21:13the distance in your new car with a new bird now you've got a new baby she's struggling i like the
21:18fact you walk but come on mate you could have done more you could have done the money that she doesn't
21:23want right that you could put that in an account whatever it is the fact is to do this girl's hurt
21:28look at her i haven't been doing this look at her i've offered to pay for the stuff i said i would
21:32rather buy the stuff you're like no i want the money i'm like i will buy the stuff and bring it i know
21:36it's getting spent on kids you said you're like no no you don't want to do that a bit but not properly
21:44and that's not his fault by the way before everybody at home no no but everybody go it's not his fault
21:50but i'm i'm you could have done a little bit more but then if he's offering and you don't want to come on
21:55here's the thing that really annoys me doing this show right so you guys have got kids right
21:59it's infantile to listen to you saying i blocked him he can't message me i blocked it that's
22:04ridiculous i mean what if just out of it i'm sorry to be boring what if one of your kids got sick what
22:09if one of your kids had an accident well you couldn't get hold of the other parent to say
22:12they're in the hospital or they're all because i'm being so mature i blocked them as parents however
22:17difficult it is for you to accept that it's over okay however much you're moving on with your life
22:22surely the common ground is look in terms of decency for those kids we need to both have each
22:27other's mobiles we need to make the rule that it's only about the kids that we converse and you
22:32need to accept his money and you need to keep banging away until she actually gives you that money
22:37that is what you need to do come on
22:45but why did you block my number oh god can we get past locking
22:48i text all the time that's got my children you need to be asking about the kids not the blocking
22:51do do i ask about kids how can you get a message on facebook or did i say can you let me know kids
22:56i love your kids yeah i love them of course i've missed them i tried mediation eight times you
23:02didn't stick with them you missed every performance he has been caught and he has got access right so
23:07there's no issues right so what we've got here is a logistical nightmare because of whatever reason
23:12you two haven't made this happen that's where we come in that's what we do why did you message after
23:16the performance why did you say why have you missed your kid's performance i went you haven't told me about
23:19problems yeah you went you didn't tell me your mom your mom told me you told me why didn't you tell me
23:24i told you mom because your mom don't always speak well that's not my problem you told me to go through
23:28your mom if you watch this back if you watch this back or your three kids watch this back they'll be
23:32going for god's sake can you bang their heads together do you want to be a father to your kid do you want
23:37him to be a father to his kids do you however hard accept that he's now with somebody else who by the
23:42way i do not think he's a bad person at all they've decided to have a kid she hasn't said she wants to
23:47muscle and she's happy to keep out of it and respect to her what you've got to understand is
23:51when you've got the feelings of i love this person still oh my god it's heartbreaking people are
23:56inclined to be a little bit difficult with kids sometimes i'm not saying that you are you've got
24:00to understand that when you gallivant off in your new car with your new bird and your new baby this is
24:04damn hard for this girl she's got three babies obviously she's up every night and so all you can do
24:08is not mend her broken heart what you can do is mend her brain by saying i'm going to be consistent i'm
24:12going to be reliable i'm going to pay my money i'm going to turn up i'm going to take whatever
24:16stuff you throw at me yeah and i'm going to prove to you i can be a good dad and that is where graham
24:20and the aftercare team come in that's what i want to do can we do that promise why did they say
24:25you apply for it so when i apply for it so it doesn't matter you're doing it again i apply for the show
24:30you apply for the show i blocked you you block me for christ i'll bang your heads together do you care
24:34about your kids that's your man you to sort it we're back after the break don't go anywhere
24:39i'm just here for the day only little why were you cheating because patrick showed me absolutely
24:43more attention was never interested is he the father yes the dna test results show that patrick
24:57it's all kicking off security
25:15this test is you're a liar love this isn't about you this is about your children
25:20oh here we go the car
25:35let's go through us to put up with this
25:42do you think you're being lied to do you have evidence to prove it like home videos recordings
25:47or texts that you want to confront someone with if you're 18 or over and you'd like to be considered
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26:16thank you welcome back my next guest today patrick is here to find out if he's the father to his wife
26:20claire's youngest child now according to patrick claire is nothing but a lying cheat who was unfaithful
26:25throughout their entire relationship and fell pregnant just after she left him for another man
26:29he says she soon came crawling back but the relationship broke down and now he needs to
26:33know the truth so that he can get rid of her once and for all he knows what he wants patrick's
26:38on the jeremy karl show that way
26:43strong words aren't they why is she so revolting well to be honest with jeremy i can't hear you to be
26:55honest she left me right what did you say speak up she left me well why does that make well maybe she
27:03didn't like you very much there's not to well you're all right okay now you're 47 it's quite
27:11young in it that's great yeah and she's 29 not that we're getting into a debate about an 18-year age
27:17difference
27:22patrick come on wake up smell the coffee uh how long were you married to her
27:25uh six years you have an older child there's no problem with that
27:30but this is about the youngest child and your doubts as to whether that child is yours why
27:35well he doesn't look like me but let's talk about the reasons you said she cheated on you
27:41so many times you lost count did she admit that to you well she said to admit fear of course
27:47you said it was a toxic relationship why would that be because you were drunk the whole time
27:52no were you drunk the whole time sometimes um i like a drink you like a drink do you work
28:01uh i don't think well i've had heart conditions in the last couple years you've got a heart
28:04condition so you can't work so you think the best way to deal with a heart condition
28:09is is indeed to drink every day no it's not the best way no no it's not the best way no i imagine um
28:14anyway she was out busy she was too busy uh cheating to answer a phone so you'd be in
28:19the pub worrying about your missus not that you were at home saying if she was all right because
28:23you're having a drink because despite the heart anyway don't mind and and she doesn't answer she's
28:27a compulsive liar she once told me she was at a rave yeah but she was actually at a hotel with
28:33another man correct most people say i've gone to a hotel for a drink not that i'm not at a rave
28:38i tried to be the best father i could i've given us the money yes well that's immensely generous of
28:44you isn't it is it true that she had an affair and didn't come home for four months
28:50uh yeah she moved out for four months did she take the kid with her yeah and how difficult was that
28:56never seen him for four months and then when she came back she was pregnant and you know then she
29:00came back we stayed together for till last year um she says you're a joke she says that you are the
29:08most horrible abusive controlling man a useless father you've contributed nothing and she actually
29:17said i'm prepared to come on the jeremy carl show and admit i did cheat because actually i'd rather have
29:24been anywhere than next to that lowlife she's a doctor like i'm what she's a doctor like
29:29well i think this is going to go well then claire's on the jeremy carl show that way
29:44shut up i'm just here for the day and in this house all you wanted was dna social work have
29:50offered you dna no i've not so why did you not take it up with them there was no need to do that
29:54why are you swearing at her you are a cheat my darling if i'm balancing this out why why were you
30:05cheating because patrick showed me absolutely no attention was never interested then why didn't
30:10you pick your child up maintain your dignity walk away and leave him before you decided to put it
30:15around amongst other men why would you not do that don't you think that don't you think that by going
30:23and having an affair you lose somewhat of the moral high ground team mate was moral high ground
30:29but we weren't together for four months we split up for four months told my team that i was the person
30:34who put a roof over our heads in our marriage i was the one who kept every day clearing up the mess
30:38because all he did was get drunk come on mate you've said nothing i don't get drunk every day patrick you
30:45would you have to leave our house jeremy i got most days i had a few four pints talk to each go and get a job stop drinking
30:53oh yeah you've got a hard condition doesn't mean you can't work does it aye well it means maybe you could do
31:02something more constructive with your time rather than being in the boozer maybe you could pay your
31:06kids and your missus some damn attention you're not saying anything you're just sitting there looking
31:14like it's the most shocking thing you've ever heard you were a useless father and a useless husband
31:19but that doesn't justify you sleeping with tom dick and harry does it it doesn't justify me
31:23a joke of a relationship he was a useless dad what no good at all he would drag what a pub every day
31:31hang on a second jeremy i brought my kid up why are you refusing to sign divorce papers when you patently
31:36think she's a cheating liar whatever why i'm not refusing to sign divorce papers you told me there was no
31:41point in going for a divorce because you wouldn't sign the papers not a few months ago no well how is
31:46that because you're permanently drunk the whole time why are social services not allowing you okay
32:00we're not allowed to go into but think about that you're not allowed to see your kids you're not the
32:04archangel gabriel and i don't condone what she did i'm not the archangel gabriel whatever you said
32:10you can't even say it you don't like it you know what i mean i know that so why are you here you
32:16refuse to divorce her to get my dna results that's it is he the father yes you're in debt aren't you
32:23because of him yes no yeah they were closing really hi okay what are you in credit cards that's nothing
32:32to do with me oh right okay you hate each other don't you yep do you hate her definitely but you're not
32:39great how many times did you cheat on him three at least three different men yes but i mean
32:48was it around the time you conceived this baby no you're so matter of fact about it
32:54last one was because i'm i'm not going to start here and make myself look out to be an angel because
32:59an angel is something i am not yes i cheated three times whilst holding down a job whilst looking
33:03after children i didn't have a social life he wasn't interested in me you used to go to a pub
33:09they'd never deny this one from half ten every morning until six o'clock every night then look
33:13after our child while i worked a 12 hour night shift why would you allow a man who'd been drunk for
33:17eight hours to look after your kid anyway and why aren't you why aren't you they're not decrying the
33:24fact that you've worked what the hell are you doing drinking when you've got a kid to look after
33:29because he only claimed to have four pints which i found out later on off the pub owner was a lot
33:35is that when you were sleeping with the barman no that was a different pub that's his local
33:40so you weren't sleeping with the i've never slept with a barman right should we do the dna results
33:45you're 100 sure he is the father 100 what about you super dad not 50 50 50 50 50 why
33:53he doesn't look like me what doesn't look like me on my old display
33:56the dna test results show that patrick how sure were you 100 you are the child's biological father
34:10are you going to sign these divorce papers and try and be a better father or are you going to spend
34:15your life in the the pub just slagging sorry i want antibus for drinking which is why are you in
34:22the pub every single day i'm going to have an iron brew now okay
34:30oh you can't go in the pub and have an iron brew you know why don't you not go in the pub why don't
34:33you have an iron brew and take your kids down the park
34:37we'll help you with the alcohol but you need to concentrate on your kids i think the most
34:45important thing is that you should sign these divorce papers and get this done it's not right
34:48is it you obviously don't want to be together and the kids don't need to see the arguments that's what
34:52you need to consider that's what we'll talk to you about okay yeah all right yep you were absolutely
34:56right give them a round of applause you go that way you go that way
35:10she told my team i received a message from alex the horrible man saying dad was dead
35:19you sent me a message saying you were glad that you have sorted out that funeral
35:25yes i actually have
35:30it's getting worse yes i need your help and i'm not leaving this stage till i get your help
35:35i want my life back give me the chance to prove you're wrong
35:39give me a chance to prove you're wrong i want to see i want me kids
35:46my name is emma and i believe i'm your daughter
35:50this is my last chance i've always thought about you get in contact
35:59she got her full house
36:03great grandchild
36:06you saw this okay i promise you listen it's all right he wants to be a dad
36:12he wants to have a relationship with his child
36:17you will today go to me you are the child
36:27you can change and if there's anybody out there or thinks i can't come and get jenny's help trust me
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37:03thank you very much for your welcome back my next guest today alex is here to cut all ties with his
37:06nightmare sister katie he says that she is nothing frankly but a pathetic lying attention seeker who
37:11gets a thrill from causing trouble but he says before he cuts her out of his life he wants to know
37:15why she would spread the vicious lie that he faked their father's death
37:20alex says that he'll prove he did no such thing the only reason she's saying this is because
37:24she's jealous of his relationship with his dad these two are at log grades he says katie is supposed
37:28to be the older sister but she needs to grow up and be honest about what's going on in her life
37:33this is a massive story alex is on the jeremy carr show that way
37:39i don't understand this story how are you i genuinely don't understand this story welcome to the show what
37:45the hell you're 23 your sister's 25 what's going on here um she gets thrills basically from telling
37:51lies getting attention there's thrills and there's lies but so explain the whole father thing because
37:58i'm a little bit i basically i'm on facebook like most people go to work does anybody talk to i'm
38:04turning into basil faulty you could always be on it if you like but i don't want to be on facebook
38:11well she basically does the same she'll tell lies put it all over facebook your sister yeah why to
38:16try and make get attention all drawn on her right so you can talk about attention but there are lies
38:21and there are lies saying that you how do you fake some how how can you figure he's alive yeah he's
38:27alive and living i spoke to him to say they should put it on facebook she told my team i received a
38:34message from alex the horrible man saying dad was dead when well i don't know i don't know either did
38:40you text her no you said i'd never lie about my dad being dead because he's not dead he's alive she's
38:45sick she is sick what happened to you two because you used to be sick sick you used to be close basically
38:51we was close when we was in care up to the age of 14. well you brought together jointly in care
38:56and then she obviously went in to live with back with my mum i come back a couple of days later and
39:02then she just basically turned lies after lies after lies your parents are both alive do you have a
39:08relationship with both of your parents i had a relationship with my mum until she was brainwashed
39:12by katie so now you're close to your dad yeah she's close to your mum shut up she's close to your mum is
39:21she close to your dad she was but then obviously there's long until you started your hassle what
39:27hassle uh telling me that he had died all right but the day you put on facebook i spoke to him
39:34really yeah he's not dead i now know that what i am living in a parallel universe how would she know
39:42that if she asked me for his number the other day if she hasn't spoken why would he have a number if he's
39:46dead you tell me he's not gonna answer the phone is he no he's ready to go to voicemail you say she
39:53made this up it's attention seeking it's always been like that she's she's vying for for both
39:59parents affection and love she wants to push you out she basically wants both parents to be loving
40:04her no one else no one else matters because she was in care well why are you here today pal to tell her
40:10i don't want her in my life my mother if she wants a relationship i'll have a relationship right so
40:16another successful day on the jeremy carl show kate is next give her a round of applause
40:25all of this you sent me a message saying you were glad that you had sorted out dad's funeral
40:33but proof yes i actually have really yeah right show me that message right is this you no is this
40:40you no it's him you got this you are the biggest i don't know what that says what does that say
40:47in this world i'm so glad i sorted dad's funeral out so you could not say your goodbye to me never
40:51loved you i don't love you i never have done you can take me on the jeremy carl show and when it proves
40:55that you're not my sister i can't wait to see your face i've told you all this time you are not my sister
41:00now get that into your thick head and stop telling people i am well how could she not be
41:03my sister we've got the same mother and father you have said all your life i'm not your sister did
41:08you send that no why does it say alex at the top i don't know go on the profile well i don't know
41:16what that means i've checked on facebook so that's not you no it's a fake profile so it's a fake
41:21profile maybe you said made that up yourself and said to yourself to frame him because you're an
41:25attention seeker is what he said me attention seeker he has been an attention seeker all his
41:31life have i i'm an attention seeker yeah you are i get up in the morning go to work go see my son
41:37come back yeah chill out for the evening get up again at four o'clock in the morning what you sit
41:41so doing nothing really i sit on my doing nothing so why is it then you've gone around telling
41:49everyone you don't work anymore i don't work all right that's what you've told people i work six
41:55o'clock in the morning until four o'clock in the afternoon maybe you hate each other so much when
41:59you share the same a lying compulsive cheat she just cheats people into liking her no i don't you did
42:05tell our team though didn't you if you sit down because i'm getting neck eight you did tell my team
42:09that you've always felt pushed out yep that trying to get your parents adoration or acceptance is your
42:15number one priority in life so maybe you do see him as a threat maybe you want it all because you
42:22were put in care you want him out the way that's what you suspect isn't it yeah that's what she wants
42:26there's not to bring me that letter please your mum is uh evelyn isn't it yeah when katie and alex
42:34came out of care they came to live with me katie left after two weeks at that time we were arguing
42:38didn't get on alex stayed with me for a good while longer i don't have a relationship with him anymore i
42:43think he's a waste of space brainwashed but i now have a brilliant relationship with my daughter
42:47brainwashed i think i'm going to say the wrong thing about evelyn
42:51off you went to care and then when she managed to have you back she managed to split you two up
42:55again did she and just taken sides not my good mother is that's just my opinion that social
43:00services that took me and put me into open door a mother who hasn't had their children with the
43:05grace to respect i would hope and pray would make the same effort when they did come back to her
43:09as she did with a as with b she patently isn't that's her business to leave the family home
43:14after two weeks guys are you just fighting over attention here that's your brother you both went
43:19through the same terrible thing he had been like this all his life no you used to be my shadow me all his
43:26life you used to follow me around asking me for your help asking me for everything no i didn't and then
43:31he said you got on really well as kids no we didn't we've never got on okay right your dad's not dead
43:38because he sent me a letter he says dear alex and katie i'm not dead no he didn't say that he said
43:47dear alex and katie i want you to know that i love you both but this constant arguing needs to stop i
43:53understand that you both had a difficult upbringing but i want you to know that i always be here for
43:57the pair of you katie all of this drama needs to stop so that we can all move on with our lives and be
44:03happy dad why don't you stop fighting all of you and start understanding that family's precious and
44:10time is precious and if you carry on like this it's not going to be any better than it was in all those
44:15years when you wanted to be together that's the point isn't it we've never wanted to be together
44:23you don't want anything to do with him you don't want anything to do with your dad you just want to
44:26be with your mom what do you want something to do with him and he wants something to do with you
44:30that's up to my dad but you look like a petulant child love why is my dad then gone and changed his
44:35number i don't know maybe he's blocked you maybe he's got on tinder i've got no damn idea i don't care
44:42you have a mom and a dad you have a mom and a dad you have a brother you have a sister right
44:47the fact is oh my god today is the end of it i don't want nothing to do with her if my mother
44:51wants to follow her carry on i'll have a relationship with my dad and me and mom without her right that's
44:56fair enough i don't really care well then isn't it what you want but then i've had to go and move
45:02just to keep you out of my life here's the interesting thing that i find quite sad the two
45:07of you were the only people hello the you two were the only people there for each other as you grew
45:11up your parents were not there now your parents are there somehow there seems to be a problem
45:15between you two you to be you two should be as tight as anything but you should be but it's the lies
45:20everything coming out of her mouth okay if you say so so you accused alex of sending that text
45:27message you did a lied detector he says that he wouldn't do that is that right i wouldn't so why
45:32does it come from his profile maybe you set it up no i don't know i've got no idea we asked alex
45:38did you send the message in question to katie how many people in the audience think this guy sent
45:42this message to his sister did you send the message in question to katie he said no despite the fact it
45:50came from your message why did you say no of course he was telling the truth so where's it come from
46:01i sent that message in question was he complicit he said no your brother was telling the truth on both
46:06questions and this might sound really interesting or not very interesting actually to be fair like it
46:16life's very short mate if there is too much water under the bridge stop bitching at each other and
46:21go in opposite directions but you both have the right to love your parents separately i guess he didn't do
46:27that maybe you are an attention seeker maybe you're just a lost little sheep you don't want a
46:31relationship with each other then stop bitching and going i'd like a relationship with my mum without
46:35her involved that's fine well that's another successful couple on the jeremy carl show you go that way you go
46:41i'm out of time for the day if you want to be here you need my help us at the website thanks for
46:49watching we'll see you very soon take care bye bye for now
46:57breaking the law is just doing something someone don't like
47:02you are saying i am judge and jury you are perverting the course of justice
47:06it's going to be in these holes the back of these houses oh my god look at that that is
47:15absolutely disintegrating so you sold drugs today for that money how much is that oh gross
47:25you used acid or something through his face you threw it in his face it was excruciating you have to
47:31pause as much damage as you can you know what the outcome was going to be maybe a lot more that would
47:36have said to him if that was your son and he died what would you say i'm not sure i have something to
47:40say then you're gonna have blood in your hands when you're out here you are on your own it's the face that's
47:57you're out here you go
48:10you