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00:00:00Hi, everybody. Today is Wednesday, April 23rd, 2025, and our friend Andrey Martianov is back
00:00:11with us. Welcome back, Andrey. My pleasure. Let's get started, Andrey, with the U.S. proposal
00:00:20for a Ukrainian settlement. And here is what J.D. Vance said about it.
00:00:30...a very explicit proposal to both the Russians and the Ukrainians, and it's time for them to
00:00:36either say yes or for the United States to walk away from this process. We've engaged in an
00:00:41extraordinary amount of diplomacy, of on-the-ground work. We've really tried to understand things
00:00:46from the perspective of both the Ukrainians and the Russians. What do Ukrainians care the most
00:00:50about? What do the Russians care the most about? And I think that we've put together a very fair
00:00:54proposal. We're going to see if the Europeans, the Russians, and the Ukrainians are ultimately
00:01:00able to get this thing over the finish line. Again, I feel pretty optimistic about it. I think
00:01:04everybody has been negotiating in good faith, but it's now time, I think, to take, if not the final
00:01:10step, one of the final steps, which is, at a broad level, the party's saying, we're going to stop the
00:01:15killing, we're going to freeze the territorial lines at some level close to where they are
00:01:20today, and we're going to actually put in place the kind of long-term diplomatic settlement
00:01:25that hopefully will lead to long-term peace.
00:01:27Andrei, he's talking about freezing the line, the battlefield, the line of conflict. We know
00:01:36that that is not possible in the...
00:01:38No, it's a no-go. It's just, that's it. And yeah, well, United States, listen, Doug McGregor
00:01:48already went on the record a couple days ago at Daniel Davis when he stated clearly, it's
00:01:54a Trump's war now. So no matter what they try to juggle there, it is a no-go. What they have
00:02:02left, and if you listen to what I spoke to Daniel Davis a couple days ago, you know, it's just
00:02:09for United States to get the hell out of the way, you know, simple as that. If United States
00:02:14wants to go, so yeah, sure, Russians have their clear, not just goals, it's just conditions,
00:02:24period. It's either this or, you know, no cigar. That is why there's so much panic in NATO.
00:02:31We know they are so-called peace negotiations broke down. I mean, if that didn't break down,
00:02:38there is, Rubio is not there, you know, Witkoff is not there. What, to talk about what, with
00:02:44who? And the question is that, Vladimir Putin, regarding this financial time BS, you know, the,
00:02:54well, you know, the pile of bovine excrement, which they pretended as that people who know
00:02:59something, you know, told us. No, Putin couldn't have said that, because Putin is a guarantor
00:03:05of the Russian constitution, being the president of Russian Federation. And all those four obelists
00:03:12are included in Russia through constitutional process within their borders, administrative borders,
00:03:20as they existed at the time of the breakup of the Soviet Union. Game over. It's not, you know,
00:03:27it's not debatable. There's nothing to discuss. About this Crimea thing, it's just laughable.
00:03:32Russians laugh. And so, what can I say? And could it be their coordinated dance between Russia and United States
00:03:45in terms of providing off-ramp for Trump administration, and say, you know what, we did all we could go to hell?
00:03:52Possible. It's not excluded at all. Again,
00:03:56Witkow last time was sitting with Vladimir Putin, no less, for four and a half hours.
00:04:02Of course, they discussed Iran. How long it took? Probably 50 minutes, 40 minutes.
00:04:08And we suddenly have the, okay, the war is an all-go now, which is good.
00:04:14But what about the rest? I don't think there was explanation to Witkow, because Witkow knows this.
00:04:23He is an experienced guy. He is by no means stupid. But I think so, there was a messaging.
00:04:31There was the thing of the conditions on how Russia can provide the off-ramp for the United States.
00:04:38Because the United States needs to get the hell out of this whole mess, which they created.
00:04:42Of course, with the help of the European, well, war criminals essentially.
00:04:47And so, that could be the case here. That we say, you know what, we did everything we could.
00:04:53You cannot, and of course, it's everything on this matter is related to internal political dynamics in, you know, in the United States.
00:05:05Trump again brought a bunch of neocons in his cabinet, okay?
00:05:12So, Mike Walz, you know, one of them. Rubio is kind of like, yeah, he's an errand boy.
00:05:19He's somehow in the middle, Andre. He's trying to play books.
00:05:23Well, he has to, you know, still, he is a very important figure.
00:05:29He is the, you know, the Secretary of the State. You cannot deny the importance of this opposition.
00:05:35So, and when you look at that, it's like, hmm, maybe it is a game, you know, maybe it is a dance.
00:05:41So, I'm not saying that it is the case, but it could be at least partially the case, because Trump and the United States desperately need, by the logic of the circumstances, the off-ramp.
00:05:55And as we saw how the Iranian crisis was resolved to a degree, you know, Trump faces, obviously, their headwind, you know, with all those neocons and loonies and fanatics from both, you know, Republican and Democratic Party.
00:06:13The Congress is utterly corrupt. And so, there you go. That's what we have now.
00:06:19Andre, isn't that amazing? You talk about Iran. The Democratic Party, the party who tried to make a deal with Iran right now, they're totally against Donald Trump in terms of the negotiations.
00:06:34They're doing everything to avoid.
00:06:37I speak about one of such representatives, Jason Crowell, you know, together with Mike Walsh, they wanted to investigate Russia's war crimes.
00:06:48These are not normal people. They are, oh, I'm a veteran, you know, you have been deployed to Afghanistan and Iraq.
00:06:55Okay, yeah, sure. So, what did you do? Have you fought the real enemy? Well, you practically shoot up people who are defenseless.
00:07:03And even that, you know, they kick your butt. You know, the problem is that, of course, these guys, they are sore losers.
00:07:10There are people who are naturally stupid among them. Make no mistake. But most of them, they have the psychology of a grant.
00:07:19They do nothing wrong with the grant. You know, there is no army without grants. Make no mistake. I do not use this in any kind of the contemptuous way.
00:07:27But the problem is, you put them in front of the real military professional, for example, with Russian military academies and war colleges and let alone Academy of General Staff.
00:07:39They will not understand even what he will be trying to convey to them. But these are the type of people.
00:07:44Oh, I was in, you know, 75th regiment, you know, whatever, ranger and things like that.
00:07:49Okay, yeah, sure. You went through, what, four weeks of tactical training? The lower tactical training.
00:07:55Do you know how to run the staff or battalion, let alone the staff or regiment or brigade?
00:08:00Most of them, they have no clue what they're talking about. They don't know how to plan operations.
00:08:05They don't understand how strategic operations are planned, how they involved into the, actually, the system of the state governance.
00:08:13They have no clue. They sit there in Congress. Basically, you know what, well, they are there to make money and peddle interest.
00:08:22That's what it is. Not all, but most. And that's the result. No matter what Trump wants.
00:08:30First, he has the rhinos. Rhinos are not really Republicans. They are neocons primarily. That's how they call it.
00:08:36And as per Democratic Party, oh, my God, it's fanatics. For the most part, the people who are, you would call, modern Democrats, and when they say shifted to the left, it has nothing to do with the left.
00:08:49It has everything with absolute insanity of the neoliberalism going bananas, you know, and there they are.
00:08:58DNC, there's a bunch of criminals sitting there, you know, who unleashed that.
00:09:02They are responsible for the death of more than 1.4, I think, now, million of Ukrainian soldiers and more than 2 million men.
00:09:11And destruction of the Ukraine, of Ukraine. So, those people, none of them ever experienced any difficulty.
00:09:20None of those veterans who deported to Iraq and, you know, experienced ever the real combined arms warfare and being under sustained fire, especially long range fires.
00:09:30When you have the, you know, what, 3M14 caliber with its 400-kilogram warfare flying into your location, okay?
00:09:38This is not a nice experience, to put it in mind. They always come there flying with a half a pound.
00:09:43So, and these people have no clue what it is. They never experienced anything.
00:09:48Their max thing is IED, which still could be, yeah, the people that destroy vehicles, but IED and RPG, that's about it.
00:09:57Here and there, once in a while, you know. They don't understand what it means to, like, British accomplish this.
00:10:03They went, they planned this thing with the Kursk invasion.
00:10:0875,000 killed. That tells you the level of those people.
00:10:14They are military amateurs, and not only amateurs professionally, they do not understand what real war is.
00:10:22Andrei, Vladimir Putin, years ago, he raised a very key issue, which I do believe still is the case with the United States,
00:10:33which was the, how the domestic policy, this fight between Republican, Democrat, the establishment, the people against the establishment,
00:10:42is shaping the foreign policy of the United States, is putting the foreign policy of the United States in some sort of inconsistency that nobody knows how to deal with.
00:10:56And that's still the case. You look at Russia today, they don't know what to do.
00:11:03They don't know who's going to be after Trump, who, who are, who is the Trump administration?
00:11:09Yeah, I mean, United States, broadly, is not, not governable.
00:11:16It's the, the country which used to have a, more or less, I mean, it was still corrupt, but at least, at least the political system was functioning.
00:11:25And, but, once the Soviet Union collapsed, and this stimuli, those stimuli from the outside, in terms of the, you know, all kinds of the things performing,
00:11:37or the democracy, they love to talk about democracy, and things of this nature, they just evaporated.
00:11:42They declared themselves the victors in the Cold War.
00:11:45And, for some reason, they decided that, oh, we destroyed Soviet Union.
00:11:49They didn't.
00:11:50Soviet Union destroyed itself, and had nothing to do with United States, well, very marginally.
00:11:55And, the point is that America doesn't know what war is.
00:12:02For all love of Americans, and I, I subscribe to it completely.
00:12:07I, not only support by, I exercise the Second Amendment, you know, to own and bear guns, and things of this nation.
00:12:16America is extremely illiterate in terms of war.
00:12:19American, our U.S. Army is illiterate in terms of war.
00:12:22I mean, they don't, not a single officer or grant ever for defending the United States.
00:12:27All these things like, oh, we are defending democracy, please.
00:12:31I mean, nobody believes this BS, you know, it's just complete garbage, you know.
00:12:36So, the Imperial Expeditionary Force, primarily, and which is designed to fight here, people who are grossly inferior.
00:12:45Okay?
00:12:46There are, even during the World War II, the heroism and dedication of the United States Army and Navy and Air Force,
00:12:53you know, nobody wants to deny them indeed heroism and feats of, you know, operational planning and things like that.
00:13:00I mean, in Europe, it was primarily Red Army, okay?
00:13:04They went in there when pretty much the issue was already settled, you know.
00:13:08So, that is why Russians, not without justification, look at the allies landing in Normandy, not so much as to defeat Hitler,
00:13:15as to prevent Soviet Union and Red Army marching to the beaches of Normandy, you know.
00:13:19So, which is, I mean, could be the case in there.
00:13:23But the point is that, ask anybody, ask any graduate from U.S. Army War College, you know, what do they know about combined arms war?
00:13:33They know nothing.
00:13:35What they know about combined arms warfare is some fantasy from the Gulf.
00:13:43That's it.
00:13:44They beat the crap, pardon me, from the backward, you know, some illiterate army after half a year, you know, deploying forces with impunity.
00:13:54It's like, sure, yeah, if you think that that's the war, yeah.
00:13:59But reality is, no American military person ever was under the sustained, especially in long-range fires, and pretty much being hunted down.
00:14:13They don't have this.
00:14:14Well, except for those who went there, too, as volunteers, and mercenaries, many of them are country officers.
00:14:20But we will not know the fate of those, for example, crews of the Patriot Pack 3s, or NASMs, who have been, well, killed by Russians, you know, together with their air defense complexes.
00:14:32They're going to be hiding it, because, well, essentially, all American wars since World War II were expeditionary wars against supremely inferior people.
00:14:43And even here, United States failed miserably.
00:14:46And here we are today, so, and they face something which, you know, they cannot handle, while Russians face something which is not governable, and doesn't understand the risks, at least part of their government,
00:15:01and part of the American military, they do not understand the risks, because some of them are fanatics.
00:15:07They have this, you know what, some have coplings of superiority, others have, well, sometimes complex of superiority is actually the adverse side of the complex of inferiority,
00:15:20which you'll try to hide it, because that is why they've got, United States was going around since Obama administration declaring itself the finest fighting force in history.
00:15:31Manstein and Zhukov were spinning in their graves, looking and listening to this, let alone the Kutuzov and Napoleon, you know.
00:15:40So, and it's just, it's a sad state of the affairs, but will they learn? I don't know, but they have to understand that in this stage, even in conventional way, Russia can harm the United States.
00:15:56Of course, it's very, you know, so to speak, fantastic scenario, because United States immediately will accelerate to the nuclear threshold, but point is, Russia can actually harm the United States in conventional way.
00:16:09And horrendously, and horrendously, without, not in Europe, in the United States proper, many people still don't get it, you know, but when you begin to explain to them, that couple of salvas from guessing class subs,
00:16:22at US proper, and my gosh, so that has to be understood in terms of the balance of power, balance of power shifted dramatically, and Washington cannot take it.
00:16:35They cannot resign themselves to the fact that they are weaker force, much weaker.
00:16:40Andrei, one of the terms that I would assume would be so much important for Russia is the buffer zone.
00:16:49In your opinion, how wide that would be the buffer zone? Is that going to be as wide as this sort of, we can say from Adessa to Kharkov to the north,
00:17:04Adessa and Klaiv to Kharkov, the line of these, the boundaries of these cities would be the ultimate point of the buffer zone.
00:17:13That would be the case in mind of Russians?
00:17:16It's a possibility. Don't forget, some operational level actually aims, they change due to the dynamics of their special military operation.
00:17:28For example, nobody thought about it, but well, London and its pathetic military planners, they presented this opportunity.
00:17:37Now you have what? You have SUME operational access.
00:17:41Russians didn't want to go there, but now they are going there.
00:17:44They are near Yanakovka, and yeah, it's about, what, 15 kilometers from SUME.
00:17:50And they say, okay, we might not necessarily go even further, but if you look at the evidence and reports,
00:18:00they are evacuating SUME now, SUME administration.
00:18:04So, you see, it's, people say that's the target of opportunity or objective of opportunity.
00:18:11No, it's not even opportunity, it's the reaction on what have been done to Russian civilians,
00:18:17in course, which are atrocities of unimaginable cruelty.
00:18:21So, and Russians go there, and after that, will they take SUME?
00:18:27Maybe, but if they take SUME, probably they will extend the buffer zone or security zone,
00:18:33after their, so to speak, final settlement happens, such way that at least artillery and most drones will not reach Russian territory.
00:18:43But yes, I think you are correct that it's going to be this type of line, you know, from Kharkov down to Odessa, something like that.
00:18:52So, it might not necessarily be, not necessarily be a straight line, but it will be some kind of a contour,
00:18:58which will make sure that no artillery system, you know, can reach Russian territory,
00:19:06and most of the FPD drones and things of this nature, they will not have the range.
00:19:15Andre, when you hear Europeans are talking about if the United States wants to leave, they can leave,
00:19:21we can go with war in Ukraine.
00:19:25Are they exaggerating?
00:19:27Are they somehow, are they not capable of seeing what they are in terms of the military,
00:19:33in terms of the capability, in terms of the economy, in terms of the problems they are facing?
00:19:39Why do they need to do that?
00:19:42Is there any reason?
00:19:43Is there any logical reason behind that in Europe?
00:19:47Well, there is a method.
00:19:48Logic is not a strong fit of Europeans, because there is nothing left from the Age of Enlightenment,
00:19:55rational thinking of what Europe produced, you know, at that time.
00:19:59No, I mean, European elites, and much of the population, not all, but much, they hate Russians.
00:20:06Simple as that.
00:20:07They view them as subhumans, so, and I'm already kind of, you know what, ad nauseum, repeating this thing.
00:20:15There's a lot of racial elements to that.
00:20:18Many of them consider Russians an altermanage, and they, considering that Europe, well,
00:20:24it's going to decline much more in terms of economy.
00:20:30They look at those Russians, and they're owning those, you know, huge, richest resources.
00:20:37For them, in their mind, with them, well, descending into the whatever we have now economic and political mayhem,
00:20:45they think that Russians do not deserve that.
00:20:49You know, Russians should give it up, you know?
00:20:51So, and that's what they were doing for the last almost, you know, thousand years.
00:20:57They go into Russia, get their butt kicked, you know, roll back, then kind of, you know, reconstitute themselves and go back, you know?
00:21:06And you look at this, yeah, that's what it is.
00:21:09Plus, it's a classic religious struggle between European Catholicism and Protestantism against Orthodoxy, Russian Orthodoxy, for example.
00:21:21There's a lot of elements to this, you know?
00:21:24So, and now, after Europe have been defeated by the Red Army, because it was Europe, it wasn't just Germany.
00:21:30It was all of them, French, good lord.
00:21:34So, and they cannot forgive this, you know?
00:21:38They cannot recover from this, but they cannot forgive.
00:21:41And as a result, you know, you have those people who want to kill Russians.
00:21:46And this element is there, it's to harm Russia and Russian people, Russian women, children.
00:21:54They applaud the atrocities, they applaud the killing of Russian children in Kursk by, well, there are French guys who, for example, they committed robbery, rapes, you know?
00:22:06Poles, I mean, my God, Poles just hate Russians.
00:22:10I mean, not all Poles, make no mistake again.
00:22:12But you have the occasions when even Ukrainian troops in Kursk area, when they would, not only in Kursk, though, but pretty much in this, you know, anyway along the line of combat contact.
00:22:27They go in and those who have some human rights left in them, they say to Russian civilians, run.
00:22:32Because if Poles come, you're dead.
00:22:34Your children, your wives, that's what it is.
00:22:38That's the last.
00:22:39And there is nothing to discuss with them.
00:22:43You remember two, three weeks ago, we had an article in the Financial Times, if I'm not mistaken.
00:22:51It was saying that doesn't matter what Donald Trump wants to do, uniting them together with France.
00:22:57They're going to do everything to avoid any sort of Ukrainian settlement.
00:23:01Right now, we've heard that Macron's office issued an ultimatum to the United States that territorial integrity of Ukraine is non-negotiable.
00:23:16So what are they talking about?
00:23:19Are these guys really serious about what's going on?
00:23:24What's going on?
00:23:25Because you can...
00:23:26They are morons.
00:23:27They are morons in PR.
00:23:29Militarily, France is pathetic.
00:23:31They removed their nuclear deterrent, which is, well, they have four electron-fund class strategic missile submarines.
00:23:40They are chihuahua militarily.
00:23:42They have military history in the 20th century.
00:23:44They are really good at surrendering.
00:23:46Okay?
00:23:47Let's put it this way.
00:23:48And they are good at forming SS units.
00:23:52They are good.
00:23:53They were good cooperating with Hitler.
00:23:55They're really good.
00:23:56You know, Pate and Garner, maybe she, you know.
00:23:58They do not want to remember this, but French are Nazis.
00:24:02You know, many of them are.
00:24:03They supported it, you know.
00:24:05So the only, you know, heroism by their man was to shaving cats of those girls who were dating, you know, German officers and soldiers during the World War II.
00:24:16That's the level of expertise.
00:24:18In terms of their operational capability, they are pathetic.
00:24:21They're just...
00:24:22UK is not even the army.
00:24:24They don't have the army.
00:24:25The same goes for Bundeswehr.
00:24:28And so whenever these clowns are saying that they can support something, I actually...
00:24:33My video is coming up precisely about it, about this French Admiral who is the chief of the Office of Transformation for NATO.
00:24:41So those people, it's unbelievable.
00:24:46So just to give you an example.
00:24:48France has about 270, I believe.
00:24:53Leclerc tanks.
00:24:54For some reason, they call them the best tanks in the world, but they don't send them into Ukraine.
00:24:59Because they know it's going to end up the same as what happened with Abrams, the latest versions of the leopards.
00:25:04Challenger turned out to be a complete pathetic piece of garbage, you know.
00:25:08So, and they talk too much.
00:25:12Well, Vladimir Putin speaking today to the Military Industrial Commission today.
00:25:17Just 2024, Russians produced, okay?
00:25:21Russians produced more than 4,000 armored vehicles, including tanks, BMP3s, and...
00:25:29I mean, what the hell are we talking about?
00:25:32People sometimes do not understand that all the stock market, those shares of their...
00:25:39You know, remove from France Airbus, which is, of course, a joint venture.
00:25:45But French do a lot of it.
00:25:47They have an integration facility in Germany, too.
00:25:50But remove Airbus and some shipbuilding capabilities in Saint-Nazaire.
00:25:55France doesn't have real economy after that, you know.
00:25:58So, and the same goes, again, what do you have about UK?
00:26:02It's a circus, literally.
00:26:05Their forces are nothing but the sitting ducks.
00:26:08They have no experience of the real war.
00:26:11They do not understand what comes into it.
00:26:14And they don't have economy to support it.
00:26:17Every time you hear from some imbecile from European Commission that,
00:26:22Oh, we're gonna put economy into the war footing.
00:26:25They don't understand what war footing is.
00:26:28For example, if you take a look at the European Commission, Wunderland and all that.
00:26:31She's a gynecologist and children specialist.
00:26:34She won't understand the first thing.
00:26:36What is the war economy?
00:26:38None of them understand.
00:26:40Look at government in Germany.
00:26:42Those people do not understand what CNC, computer numerical control, you know, rigs are.
00:26:48And how they have to be integrated to produce.
00:26:50They don't understand what metrology is.
00:26:53Okay.
00:26:54So, and they believe this BS from the same imbeciles, which are, well, it's actually comes across pretty much everywhere.
00:27:02Along, you know, across all countries.
00:27:06Journalists.
00:27:07Most of them are imbeciles.
00:27:09They are glorified language people.
00:27:11You know, they can teach language in Russia.
00:27:13They can teach Russian in, you know, United States.
00:27:16They can teach English, but they have no expertise in anything.
00:27:19They don't know anything.
00:27:21It's a Schumpeter's universe now, as he explained, that most people, they do not understand what is going around them.
00:27:27You know, there are, there is some school of thought that literally they think you write some code.
00:27:32Nothing wrong with being software engineer.
00:27:34But, and suddenly iPhones appear on the trees.
00:27:38That's the level of understanding.
00:27:40They won't understand what it takes to create modern combat aircraft.
00:27:45They don't.
00:27:47Now we have the people from Dassault.
00:27:50Oh, yeah.
00:27:51Dassault.
00:27:52Yeah.
00:27:53Rafale and all that.
00:27:54Did you see the numbers of those Rafales?
00:27:56Russia produced this year more combat aircraft, pretty much, you know, all combat wing of the French Air Force.
00:28:04Just to give you an example.
00:28:06And you look at these people.
00:28:08Are they serious?
00:28:10Many of them are.
00:28:11Because they're morons.
00:28:12But this is, we, again, apart from Schumpeter, you know, universe, we're living in the Dunning-Kruger universe.
00:28:20Because you cannot explain to Moran that he's moron because he's moron.
00:28:25Can you imagine explaining some Cretan, you know, who said, oh, I'm veteran, I'm lawyer, you know, I mean.
00:28:31Do you know how the staff of the brigade works?
00:28:35Do you know how operations are planned?
00:28:37Do you understand what it means to actually work in analytical function in the staff in order for you to conduct successful operations?
00:28:46They don't know.
00:28:47They are not taught it.
00:28:49And as a result, we have what we have.
00:28:52And when you talk about Europe, it's so bad.
00:28:56It's, you should, I don't know, did you invite Jacques Bo?
00:29:00Jacques Bo, Colonel Jacques Bo, Jacques explains beautifully, you know, those people do not even understand dynamics.
00:29:06They are not taught.
00:29:07They don't have their, how to say it, their operation of their mind, operation of their brain, that they can understand the dynamics and trends.
00:29:16They cannot do that.
00:29:17So, and as you look at it attentively, look at Europe, you know, so, and it's pathetic, honestly.
00:29:25And of course, most importantly, they don't have energy.
00:29:28They cannot produce anything.
00:29:30Everything they will try to produce will cost its weight in gold.
00:29:34Andre, if you were, because in order to understand what's going on with the case of Europe, as you've mentioned with the army in Germany, in the United Kingdom,
00:29:45if you were to compare the army of Ukraine before the conflict started to the army of any of these countries in the Western, I'm talking about Western European countries,
00:29:57how do you compare the Ukrainian army to the army they have in the United Kingdom, in Germany?
00:30:06The best army Europe ever had since Hitler.
00:30:11They were more powerful than French, British, and the rest, German, and the rest European armies combined.
00:30:19If you look attentively, in terms of numbers, in terms of the equipment, and well, in terms of, it was their mistake.
00:30:27They were trained by NATO people as a result.
00:30:31So, but yeah, I mean, what can I say?
00:30:36It's, the West in general have been exposed as a paper tiger, and especially what many people still do not understand.
00:30:45It's not even the ground, the average ground on those countries.
00:30:51The officer corps is dismal.
00:30:55As I already, Jacques told you.
00:30:57They couldn't even understand what they were looking at, because they are so much, that's how incompetent they are.
00:31:03And you are, again, my video is coming up shortly about this French Admiral, you know.
00:31:10So, I mean, he commanded pretty much most important ships in French Navy and all that.
00:31:16But he talks about, like, condescendingly, that, oh, Russians adapted to NATO weapons.
00:31:23NATO weapons are so inferior that I can't explain to you.
00:31:28These people literally do not understand basic higher tactics, the high-level tactics, which is brigade-level tactics.
00:31:37Operations, they are amateurs.
00:31:41So, the way that you're picturing, let me just interpret what you've said.
00:31:50The best army in Europe was fighting Russia.
00:31:53And the best intelligence coming from the United States to Ukraine, they were not capable of doing anything.
00:32:01And right now Europeans are feeling that they can make some sort of change.
00:32:05You cannot fix that.
00:32:08You cannot fix stupid.
00:32:09And again, as I already stated, they are driven by hatred, okay.
00:32:13They hate Russian guards, you know.
00:32:15Take any politician.
00:32:18Most, I'm not saying all, but most, they hate Russian guards.
00:32:22They are ready to scratch, spit, you know, throat stone, whatever.
00:32:26Just harm a little bit.
00:32:28That is why, finally, Russia completed full 180 degrees away from Europe.
00:32:39And it should never be again any kind of meaningful culture.
00:32:44Well, first, right now, it's Europe as it exists today.
00:32:48It's Sodom and Gomorrah, basically.
00:32:50That's what it is.
00:32:51And so, I advocated for the Iron Curtain since, I don't know, 2016 probably.
00:32:58So, and those people from Europe who share, you know, common values, primarily Christian values, conservative values, they are more than welcome in Russia.
00:33:09They are met with the open arms, you know.
00:33:11And so, but the rest, I don't know.
00:33:15I don't know what you can talk to them about.
00:33:17They are not normal people, you know.
00:33:20Normal people in the sense that they have any humanity in them.
00:33:24Again, listen, British invented concentration camps.
00:33:28Germans and, you know, Europeans took it to the next level, you know, and you know what was happening.
00:33:34And, well, I guess that's the way of Europe, but thankfully, Russia is done with it, you know.
00:33:41And there were now, there were attempts, I believe, to get back into economic thing.
00:33:48I hear now is trying to, you know, register its brand again in Russia.
00:33:53Oh, good luck getting that.
00:33:55Because they started complaining, all kinds of those companies, that their price of entering Russia back or re-entering Russia is so high.
00:34:04Of course.
00:34:05It's like Siemens, you know.
00:34:07Nima, you disappeared.
00:34:11Can you hear me, Andre?
00:34:25Yeah, you just kind of, you know.
00:34:28But did you hear me?
00:34:29Yeah.
00:34:30Yeah, it was the freezing of the frame.
00:34:33So, yeah, this is what it is.
00:34:35I mean, nothing we can do about it.
00:34:37You just can't talk to those people.
00:34:39Those few common sense, and I'm not saying that all Europeans like that.
00:34:44But those few people who have common sense, they have morality, they have ethics, you, they are minority.
00:34:53Majority of, yeah, there are some, you know, people who live there, actually.
00:34:59They, and I get letters all the time, emails, and people tell, good Lord, you don't know half of it is much worse than that and things of this nature.
00:35:08Europeans themselves, I actually have a great deal of sympathy for them, you know.
00:35:13There are many decent German people, British, I mean, Britons, I'm sorry for them.
00:35:20They cannot change anything because they don't even have the political instruments to change anything.
00:35:26No matter who they vote for, you know.
00:35:28And, of course, so the country was destroyed by their elites, you know.
00:35:32But, yeah, Germans voted for, if you look at what an alternative for Germany is, it's GDR.
00:35:40Yeah, this is where the normal Germans are.
00:35:43People, you know, and people from Eastern Germany, which used to be German Democratic Republic, you know.
00:35:51They say, yeah, the West has done this, basically walking stomachs, that's who they are.
00:35:56Beer, football, that's about it, you know.
00:35:58And all kinds of other activities, which are not normal for any normal person.
00:36:03And so, yeah, it's sad, but it is what it is.
00:36:07It's so sad to see Germany.
00:36:11They voted for it.
00:36:13They voted for it.
00:36:15Andre, here is what Marco Rubio said in terms of the conflict in Ukraine.
00:36:22You know, Russia is not just going to roll over Ukraine and take the whole country.
00:36:28And Ukraine is not going to push them all the way back to where they were before 2014.
00:36:31So, what I would say we're involved in is understanding what is the Russian position.
00:36:36We have a better understanding of that now because we've actually spoken to them after three years of not speaking to them.
00:36:41What is the Ukrainian position?
00:36:43And figure out, are these guys even in the same neighborhood?
00:36:46Because if they're in completely different zip codes, then we may have to conclude that they're so far apart that peace is impossible at this time.
00:36:52We've done our best.
00:36:53We've put a lot of time and energy at the highest levels of our government.
00:36:56We'll continue to be willing to do so as long as there's a realistic path forward.
00:37:01If at some point we determine that we're just too far apart and not enough movement is happening,
00:37:06we may need to move on to other priorities because there are a lot of important things happening in the world.
00:37:10This is not our war. We didn't start this war.
00:37:13Actually, the United States did start this war.
00:37:16But, yeah, well, yeah, it's the same dance.
00:37:19And, again, it's basically hedging and also preparing public opinion that, yeah, we did all we could.
00:37:28And he's correct.
00:37:29I mean, essentially, Rubio sounds reasonable in this, except, of course, that we didn't.
00:37:34Well, Trump administration, actually, it was during Trump administration when the re-arming and training of the armed forces of Ukraine started in earnest.
00:37:43So his first term.
00:37:45But, yeah, in a sense that he's saying things.
00:37:49He is pushing all right buttons in this respect.
00:37:53By the way, the problem, I think the point that he was raising, he was correct when he said that Russia is not going to capture all of Ukraine because Russia is not.
00:38:03No, Russians don't want to.
00:38:05Russians do not want to control Ukraine.
00:38:07That's the thing which many people have to understand.
00:38:10Russians do not want to govern those people.
00:38:13Most of those people which are left there, they are not Russia's friends.
00:38:16Ukrainian population at large hates Russian gods.
00:38:20They, good Lord, you should see what their social media, what is happening.
00:38:25They are talking about how to kill Russian children, dismember them, you know, hang them on there.
00:38:30So, yeah, that's the type of people.
00:38:32So, no, you don't want them.
00:38:35And the second point was that Ukraine is not able to capture Crimea and other.
00:38:43No, I mean, yeah, what not many people do not understand.
00:38:48Every day, every day, last 24 hours, Russians liberated a bunch of other hamlets and things like that.
00:38:55The steamroller moves to the west, you know, so it's just, you know, Russians are operating now.
00:39:01They have the free hand in terms of not basically conducting operations which will create more losses on the Russian side.
00:39:11If you can do it in, you know, in a week and losing maybe nobody, few wounded, then doing it in one day and losing, you know, what, dozens of killed.
00:39:25Why? Go for a week, you know, just do the thing, you know.
00:39:29And the kill ratio is astounding.
00:39:32It's astounding.
00:39:33It's astounding.
00:39:34And essentially, when you look at actually there are children now, whole women's formation, you know, in Ukrainian army, 18 years old, again, 14 years old, crying out loud.
00:39:46You know, so, and yeah, that tells you everything you need to know about mobilization or potential of the remnants of the armed forces of Ukraine.
00:39:56And Russians, again, I speak about this all the time.
00:39:59It sounds horrible.
00:40:01It sounds inhumane, but Russia didn't start it.
00:40:04So, and Russia will kill whatever will be thrown in there.
00:40:10Simple as that.
00:40:11If it will be the last Ukrainian, so that will be to the last Ukrainian.
00:40:14As London wants and Biden administration wanted, Russians will oblige.
00:40:18They will kill them all.
00:40:20Yeah.
00:40:21And the issue with the way that Marco Rubio is picturing the situation, in my opinion, is that he just putting the blame on Russians and Ukrainians.
00:40:31They don't agree.
00:40:32We know that there is no Ukrainian part.
00:40:35We know that who's running the show in Ukraine.
00:40:38Yeah.
00:40:39That's why they have to talk with Europeans, with those people who are running the show in Ukraine.
00:40:44Well, I mean, it's too late now anyway.
00:40:46So, it's all about, again, off-ramp.
00:40:51Putin doesn't speak to Europeans.
00:40:54Europeans, as we know now, it was admitted by, not admitted, it was stated actually by people such as Orban, Victor Orban, that some European leaders.
00:41:06Who those?
00:41:07Well, Macron probably.
00:41:09The guys are covered, you know, and he looks at the country which, you know, they destroyed essentially.
00:41:15So, did he call Putin secretly?
00:41:19Most likely.
00:41:20So, could it have been this moron, what's his name?
00:41:25Oh, good Lord, Jesus.
00:41:27German, Olaf Scholz?
00:41:30Melus.
00:41:31Absolutely possible, you know.
00:41:33You know.
00:41:34But they are trying to cover, you know, cover U.S., CYA, you know, because obviously they face their very serious domestic issues.
00:41:43Very serious.
00:41:44And in this case, they don't want to advertise it.
00:41:49But they need to play to the public, which, by the way, brainwashed.
00:41:53Especially their conformism, conformity.
00:41:56For example, the national trade of Germans.
00:41:59They believe, many of them do believe their media.
00:42:02So goes for British.
00:42:04They believe this garbage which is published in there.
00:42:07Oh, yeah, BBC talks about it.
00:42:09A bunch of British BS corporations.
00:42:12The Pedophile Center, actually.
00:42:14So, central.
00:42:15And so, when you look at these people, yeah, they need to do something.
00:42:19The only thing they care about, their well-being and their power.
00:42:23Their well-being is the derivative of their political power.
00:42:26They need to stay in power.
00:42:28Apart from the fact that many of them qualify as criminals.
00:42:33Not only for the international reasons, which, for example, they are...
00:42:38Once this whole thing over the real international tribunal on the war crimes committed in Ukraine will start by Russian side.
00:42:47But even domestically.
00:42:49Look what they did to Marine Le Pen.
00:42:52And she's a globalist.
00:42:54Okay?
00:42:55She is nothing new, essentially.
00:42:57She is a professional opposition leader, you know.
00:43:00Who never had any real plan or anything to save France, which requires saving.
00:43:05But then again, maybe they just should let it go and by 2050 there will be no unified France.
00:43:11So, and that's what is happening.
00:43:16And for example, for Macron, does he have enemies?
00:43:21Oh, you bet he does have enemies in France.
00:43:25Do they want his head?
00:43:27I'm pretty sure they do.
00:43:29But again, look at French.
00:43:31They voted him in twice.
00:43:33So, and the last time you cannot say that there was some kind of the, you know, corrupt, you know, elections.
00:43:40He won by a landslide.
00:43:43He beat Marine Le Pen by, you know, it's a knockout.
00:43:47French decided this to be their government.
00:43:51Government.
00:43:52Let them enjoy it.
00:43:53You know?
00:43:54And same goes for all Europeans.
00:43:56And, but what can I say?
00:43:59I mean, it's just unbelievable what is happening.
00:44:03It is so beyond what we ever saw.
00:44:06Okay?
00:44:07And so United States needs off-ramp.
00:44:10And again, do I like what was done?
00:44:15No, of course not.
00:44:16But, as I repeat constantly, morality in a sense doesn't have the place here other than the cold-hearted calculation.
00:44:27Russians could be as cold-hearted as anybody else when it needs to be.
00:44:32And United States matters.
00:44:34It's an important country.
00:44:36Unlike Europeans, for example.
00:44:38And the question here is how you find this modus vivendi between the two nuclear superpowers.
00:44:47Make no mistake.
00:44:49United States case, it's not just nuclear superpower.
00:44:52It is declining power and it is very much schizophrenic one.
00:44:57So you are dealing with, in a sense, with the monkey, with the grenade.
00:45:01During Biden administration, that was actually the case.
00:45:05So you need to find this modus vivendi to calm things down, wind them down.
00:45:11And Rubio makes this very important thing.
00:45:14We have more important things to deal with.
00:45:17Which things he is talking about?
00:45:19Is he talking about?
00:45:20China, of course.
00:45:21There is a whole lobby over there obsessed with China.
00:45:24It's too late.
00:45:25United States already lost economically to China.
00:45:28Okay?
00:45:29We know that.
00:45:30Look at the Chinese economy, which is monstrous.
00:45:32Okay?
00:45:33But they still think that they can do it.
00:45:36Okay?
00:45:37Sure.
00:45:38Yeah.
00:45:39Let them do it.
00:45:40You know, but you saw yourself what happened to them in Ukraine.
00:45:43And I cannot even comment on this anymore without, you know, smile.
00:45:50So it's just...
00:45:52Yeah.
00:45:53Actually, they do want to shift.
00:45:55They want to get out of Ukraine.
00:45:57Somehow, I do believe they want to get out of Ukraine.
00:45:59Well, they do.
00:46:00They do.
00:46:01And yeah, again.
00:46:02And we spoke to Daniel Davis a couple days ago.
00:46:06And he definitely has his friend of Tulsi Gabbard.
00:46:10And he said, my sources say that Trump really wants to leave.
00:46:15It's over.
00:46:16He just...
00:46:17He means it, you know?
00:46:18He said, you know?
00:46:19So it looks like we have those indications, you know?
00:46:21So as much as we can do it in our, so to speak, or seen open source intelligence part, you know?
00:46:27That, yeah, looks like indicators are there.
00:46:30Those marks, so to speak, you know?
00:46:33Those triggers are there.
00:46:34So Russia is working with, you know, saving United States in order for it not to completely implode and go bananas.
00:46:42Especially, again, monkey with a grenade, you know?
00:46:45So...
00:46:47Here is Andre.
00:46:48Here is what Marco Rubio said in terms of fighting China.
00:46:52And if one came, could we win it?
00:46:55What we want to do is prevent a war from China by being strong enough to make them understand that they could never win a war against the United States.
00:47:01A war against China would be a terrible thing.
00:47:03I know, but if I look...
00:47:04And the best way to prevent it...
00:47:05And how do they want to fight a war?
00:47:08Here is J.D. Vance, Andre.
00:47:10The industry alliance will enable America and India to develop the most state-of-the-art maritime systems needed for victory.
00:47:19It's fitting that India this year is hosting the Quad Leader Summit this fall.
00:47:25Our interests in a free, open, peaceful, and prosperous Indo-Pacific are in full alignment.
00:47:32Both of us know that the region must remain safe from any hostile powers that seek to dominate it.
00:47:39Growing relations between our countries over the last decade are part of what led America to designate India a major defense partner, the first of that class.
00:47:49This designation means that India now shares with the UAE a defense and technology infrastructure and partnership with the United States on par with America's closest allies and friends.
00:48:05But we actually feel that India has much more to gain from its continued defense partnership with the United States.
00:48:12And let me sketch that out a little bit.
00:48:14Andre, the term of India, the way that they're picturing India, do you think that it seems some sort of fantasy to me that they think that after all India would be under par and fighting China?
00:48:31Yeah, it's BRICS, India BRICS, obviously Indians will look for profiteering on all sides.
00:48:38But hey, that's India, alright, that's how they operate.
00:48:41Modus operandi for them and everybody knows that.
00:48:44Do not forget, yeah, all this funny talk about preventing war with China, Chinese do not really want war.
00:48:54And they're commercial civilization primarily.
00:48:57But of course, 25% of the Chinese energy goes through the shipping lanes of communications out of Persian Gulf through the Indian Ocean.
00:49:07And we know the tensions between India and China, which of course Russia is now trying to, you know, harmonize.
00:49:14And it looks like it's working, okay?
00:49:17But of course, United States wants Indian Navy.
00:49:20It's a significant Navy.
00:49:22And it will be more significant.
00:49:24And of course, this idea of AUKUS, you know, place, those Virginias have worked in Australia,
00:49:30which immediately gives them the operational space to just, you just go out of Perth and immediately dive in.
00:49:36Off you go, you know, just wonderfully, beautifully located city, you know, and continent.
00:49:43So they want to control the shipping lanes of communications, of course, you know, in the Indo-Pacific area.
00:49:48And considering the fact that monstrosity of the Chinese shipbuilding industry, which is building ships like cars, you know, so.
00:50:02It's already overtaken United States Navy by, in the service combatants, you know.
00:50:10And some of them, well, there's a whole other story about the weapons there.
00:50:16But the point is, yeah, they will procure more and more type 055, which is state-of-the-art beautiful ship, you know, destroyer.
00:50:25It looks more like a cruiser, actually.
00:50:28And obviously, the only Trump card, so to speak, which United States Navy has in this respect, it's submarine force.
00:50:38China lags dramatically behind in submarine technology.
00:50:42But then again, who knows what Russians will be willing to share with Chinese.
00:50:47And so, in this case, United States is looking for any kind of the allies in the area, because probably in five years, United States Navy will not have enough required forces surface-wise to even, you know, counter China plan, they call it, which is funny.
00:51:07People's Liberation Army Navy, they will be deploying it into the Indo-Pacific area, and that will present operational trouble for United States Navy.
00:51:19Unless, of course, God forbid nuclear submarines are good for actual war.
00:51:25We don't have them to demonstrate the flag.
00:51:27Their whole idea is to be clandestine, as clandestine as possible.
00:51:31But, I mean, in terms of surface combatants, China will be countering United States Navy, and it will be countering it from the ranges which make even their beloved American carrier battle groups not in the range of do something about it.
00:51:50So, you know, prior, let's say, 30 years ago, United States would say, oh, yeah, we have carrier battle groups, we'll, you know, just, but the aviation takes off and launches and all that.
00:52:00Suddenly, you are talking about the missile technology, which in the ranges of 1,000 plus kilometers, which essentially makes even the E-2 Hawkeyes, you know, which are the main eyes and ears, if you wish, well, eyes primarily,
00:52:18of the United States Navy and carrier battle groups, they will not be able to sweep something to detect it, because it will be beyond their range, even at the, you know, the edge of their patrol, you know, station.
00:52:33And that changes everything, you know.
00:52:36So, just to give you an example, the Russian 3M22 Zircon hypersonic weapon, in itself, once it's launched, it's over.
00:52:46It has a range of 1,500 kilometers.
00:52:49It's twice longer than whatever this carrier battle groups actually can even sweep and know around.
00:52:55So, we're looking at the change and dramatic shift in the issues of the tactical and situational awareness for the types of forces.
00:53:02And Chinese are getting there, too, you know, at least on surface combatants.
00:53:06And so, United States desperately needs some kind of the additional allied force, in a sense which is significant Indian Navy.
00:53:14And, of course, as I already stated, the whole idea is to have this base, because immediately go out of Perth and look, you're immediately looking at the,
00:53:24to the north of the shipping place of communications, where the fleet of the tankers from Iran and the Persian Gulf delivers the much needed energy to China.
00:53:35That is why Chinese want now the airlines pipelines from Russia, which are within the continental land mass, and the United States will not have the access to them.
00:53:48Andre, do you feel that Donald Trump would be able to deal with China without having any military conflict,
00:54:02without having any real war in terms of military and all of that? Can they keep it economically?
00:54:09No. Economically, United States already lost to China. It's, it's beyond the, beyond the doubt.
00:54:17It's just a matter of how those possible little details, you know, with the tariffs and all that.
00:54:23Today, Trump already stated, oh, yeah, we will go back on tariffs on China. So, there you go.
00:54:28So, listen, you go to Walmart, okay? And no matter what you do, it's all Chinese, okay?
00:54:38Plus, China has been unloading, obviously, the treasuries, and it has been reorienting itself, not only to Europe.
00:54:46Europe will become, is becoming poorer, and it will not be as solvent as it used to be.
00:54:51It's still, it's still, it's still kind of worth stuff, but there is a lot of turn of China towards the East Asia.
00:55:00Because they understand, well, you look at that, my gosh, Indonesia, 250 million people population.
00:55:06You look even in Vietnam, you know, those hundred million people.
00:55:09And you look at those countries in there, these are huge markets, you know?
00:55:15And so, yeah, and we already saw this incredible event, which many people do not understand what happened.
00:55:23China, South Korea, and Japan got together to discuss economic cooperation.
00:55:31This is unprecedented. And I believe it was held in Beijing, okay?
00:55:37So, this is like, yep, that's the thing.
00:55:41And do not forget, let's not, as much as I ridicule Huntington's Clash of Civilizations,
00:55:50you cannot deny the fact that those people, racially, they are very much close to each other.
00:55:57This is Asian, great cultures, you know, amazing cultures, you know?
00:56:02And they get together because racially they're close, you know?
00:56:06It's like, how to say, it's just the reality of the world.
00:56:11They're Asian nations, they're Asian race, they're Asian civilizations.
00:56:16And they're already trying to kind of touch a little bit, you know, how we can, you know, get together and cooperate.
00:56:24And Chinese say, Chinese are commercial civilization, okay?
00:56:28They like, love to make money, they like to profit, which is, well, per se, nothing wrong per se,
00:56:34as long as you maintain their ethical attitude, you know, towards that.
00:56:37But the point is that they will get together, they are the same civilization as Asiatic civilization.
00:56:44Now, look at even Vietnam.
00:56:47And you remember the 1979 war and things of this nature, and do not forget that a lot of what happened,
00:56:55horrible things which happened in Cambodia, Campuchia, was actually driven by the Chinese geopolitical ambition,
00:57:01including the Pol Pot, it was a SOB, you know, from China.
00:57:06Vietnamese were the ones who, literally, Russians told them, you are there, go, just clean this mess up.
00:57:13And Vietnamese army went there and did their thing.
00:57:17But look at this, suddenly, there is, first, there is a huge pro-Chinese lobby within Vietnamese Communist Party.
00:57:24And Vietnam, obviously, they are neighbors.
00:57:27So, what do you do?
00:57:28You begin to develop trade relations.
00:57:30Why do you want to fight?
00:57:32You know, when you can actually settle things, you know, in negotiations, and be mutually, you know, beneficial to each other.
00:57:41I mean, it's so simple in this respect.
00:57:44And even with India, it looks like there were some issues which have been settled with Russian, you know, mediation about the border issues and things of this nature.
00:57:57Yeah, you want this Eurasian landmass to be, it's already becoming new technological and economic, it's already new technological and economic superpower, deeper power, if you wish.
00:58:10And so, United States, United States has only one entrance point for saving itself.
00:58:19And I've been writing about it for two decades.
00:58:22The only entrance point for the United States to at least, you know, soften its fall and find the way to exist is just another great part, one of three, is Russia.
00:58:35You know why?
00:58:37The United States has some resources, but it has so much to do with Russian resources.
00:58:43Oh, my God.
00:58:44And all of it is today's high tech development.
00:58:48And yes, there is even the Chamber of Commerce, United States Chamber of Commerce stated, we have like, you know, all those people standing like on the high start ready to run to Russia immediately.
00:59:02And Russians stated, you know, it was stated by Mr. Putin.
00:59:07Europe is gone, but yeah, we can talk about Americans coming back.
00:59:13This is how it's done.
00:59:15You operate in your own league.
00:59:17Your own league are what that's three countries.
00:59:20China, United States, and Russia.
00:59:23You deal with this.
00:59:24You find this balance.
00:59:25Tripod is good one.
00:59:27It's more stable.
00:59:28You know, unlike it is there, you know, two superpowers, two camps.
00:59:32No, no, no, no, no, no.
00:59:33We want tripod.
00:59:34It better have even the fourth leg.
00:59:36But India has a long way to go to become that, although it's getting there somehow, you know.
00:59:42So when you look at this, oh, it's much more stable.
00:59:44Yes.
00:59:45You.
00:59:46And, but yeah, we have to keep in mind.
00:59:48Eurasia.
00:59:49It's already deeper power.
00:59:51Militarily, economically, technologically.
00:59:53Yeah.
00:59:54Thank you so much, Andre, for being with us today.
00:59:59My pleasure.
01:00:00Great pleasure as always.
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