The Jeremy Kyle Show 8th December 2017
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00:00On today's show, Elaine says she was in a relationship with Dean for three years, but was left furious when he left her for a woman he met on life.
00:10Well, you might need one of these when he comes on, because he stinks.
00:15You told my team he was absolutely terrible in bed.
00:20Because of your lack of trust, you've asked him to do a lie detection, quite shockingly, a DNA test.
00:24There are accusations that it's somebody very, very close to you.
00:27Tell me more.
00:28Who?
00:29Have you slept with his father?
00:32No.
00:33But you cheated on at the beginning of the relationship, didn't you?
00:35Yeah.
00:36We asked Laura, have you ever passionately kissed the man in question?
00:39You said no.
00:40Why'd you say no, Laura?
00:41Good morning, guys.
00:55Good morning, guys.
01:00Good morning.
01:00Good morning.
01:01Good morning.
01:01Good morning.
01:02Good morning.
01:04Good morning.
01:04Good morning.
01:05And a big, big welcome to the show.
01:06Right.
01:07My first guest today, Elaine, is here for one almighty showdown with her ex-partner, Dean.
01:12Elaine says she was in a relationship with Dean for three years, but was left furious when
01:16he left her for a woman he met online.
01:18He just upped and went.
01:19And she says that stupidly she forgave him, let him move back in, but says that this was
01:23the biggest mistake of her life, she says today, I want this low life out of my life.
01:28Elaine is on the Jeremy Kyle show that way.
01:35How are you?
01:37You all right?
01:38Yeah.
01:38Oh, what is that?
01:40Well, you might need one of these when he comes on, because he stinks.
01:44Well, no, you.
01:45You don't, but Dean does.
01:48I might need that when Dean comes on?
01:50Yeah, because he pen and inks.
01:53He seems that he's never had a wash, never had a bath.
01:58Sorry, hold on a minute.
02:00Well, let's just go back.
02:02He was your partner for four years.
02:04He was, yeah, but I never loved him.
02:07Right, I'll just sit back and relax.
02:08How did you meet him?
02:10How did I meet him?
02:11Well, yes.
02:11Yeah, I met him online.
02:14Online, yeah, he was online.
02:16Wow.
02:17See, I don't get all that.
02:19No, it wasn't actually on Facebook, it was on another site.
02:21Oh, was it?
02:22Yeah, no one.
02:22I told my team he was absolutely terrible in bed.
02:25Well, he was, he was good, but it's just that the smell, it, he just, he just, no, seriously,
02:30he stunk.
02:31I had to spray his bits with the, like, his deodorant.
02:36Because he stunk, I thought, no way am I getting near that.
02:39You had to spray his manhood with aftershave before you would...
02:43Oh, no, deodorant, just ordinary deodorant, and, like, you know, lynx, and, like...
02:47Lynx?
02:47It smells better than what he was smelling like.
02:51It smells like f***s.
02:52It was.
02:53Brilliant.
02:53Right, well, it sounds like, you say, um...
02:55Black lady cow!
02:56Oh, what about you then?
02:59Sit on your f***s.
03:02Don't f***s.
03:03Oh, yeah, like what?
03:05Well, obviously nothing.
03:06Yeah, exactly.
03:07Sit on your f***s.
03:08Did I ask you to put him up?
03:10Right, get him off my screen.
03:14Get him off.
03:14Right, yeah, honestly, so, so, you're with a bloke, you meet online,
03:17the sex ain't great, despite that he's got all of that.
03:20You say he was a lazy, selfish slob,
03:21and then you caught him messaging women online,
03:23which is a bit surprising, because that is how you met him.
03:26What did you discover?
03:27Why am I holding a peg?
03:28Go on.
03:28I don't know.
03:29It's fine, yeah.
03:30Um, he was texting someone online,
03:33and then he ended up inviting them down,
03:35and they end up, like, living down there.
03:37What, with you?
03:38Well, we was in a house converted into two flats, right?
03:43So he moved another woman in?
03:44Yeah.
03:45But he was in his flat.
03:47And you say he was honourable to you?
03:49Oh, yeah, he used to have called me names, everything.
03:51What did he call you?
03:52Like, um, he used to call me Fatty, Oompa Loompa.
03:57Oompa Loompa?
03:57Yeah, c***, how am I?
04:01Sorry.
04:02Um, you lost contact, you split up,
04:05but then you felt sorry for him, why?
04:07Because he needed a bath, why did you feel sorry for him?
04:09Oh, c***, I don't know if you like this.
04:12Here's the rule, it's called The Jeremy Kyle Show.
04:15Do one until I say you can come out.
04:19But, um, go on.
04:21He came back into your life, didn't he?
04:24Yeah, he came...
04:24Why would you have him back if he was disgusting?
04:26That, I ask my question, I ask that question every Philippine day of me life.
04:30You put a roof over his head.
04:32Yeah, I put...
04:32You took him back.
04:34You say he took advantage.
04:35In what way?
04:37Uh...
04:37Shut up!
04:38He just sort of, you know, just wouldn't, like, pay his way.
04:42You know, he was expecting me and Ange.
04:45You split in June this year.
04:48This bloke has arrived today saying...
04:50Yeah.
04:50I was never with this woman.
04:52She's a fantasist.
04:54She's a f***.
04:55She's got hold of all of my things.
04:56This guy's most obsessed with his bike trailer.
04:59It was 150 quid and she's put it on Facebook for 40 quid.
05:03He's really hacked up.
05:03I tried to tell you, haven't I actually?
05:05Yesterday.
05:05He says, you're a freak.
05:09He never wanted to be with you.
05:10No, you're a freak.
05:10And he says, you're lazy.
05:12And today he's come to tell you that you need to stop trying, trying to get him back in his life.
05:19Well, whatever it is...
05:21I'm not getting him back.
05:22Why have you done a lie detector to prove you did have sex with him?
05:25Just let him...
05:26No!
05:27Who's f***ing?
05:29Who's f***ing?
05:30I'm asking you, who are you?
05:32I'm his friend.
05:33Well, I haven't said you can come on, so do one.
05:35Get off!
05:40You're here to prove with a lie detector you did have it off with him.
05:43And in fact, he's a freak and you want him out.
05:45He's here today to say, give me my belongings back.
05:47You were nothing to me.
05:48You were lazy and you destroyed my life.
05:50Yeah, exactly.
05:51Dean's on the Jeremy Kyle Show that way!
06:00What are you f***ing lying for?
06:02Me lying?
06:03Yeah.
06:03I'm not lying at all.
06:04Oh, what?
06:05Saying I was in a f***ing relationship with you when I ended a relationship after 15 years back in April this year.
06:10Yeah.
06:10Get a life.
06:11I've got a life, thanks.
06:12Yeah, right.
06:12Whatever.
06:13At least I'll have a bath.
06:15Yeah, and?
06:16You stink.
06:17No, I don't.
06:18I need one of these, actually.
06:20You need something, because I want my f***ing stuff.
06:22I want to let him in that, because you f***ing stink.
06:24Yeah, well, I want my f***ing stuff.
06:26You can have it.
06:27Yeah, but every time my own rates come over, you keep changing the poxy days.
06:30Have you had sex with her?
06:32Once.
06:33I've had one.
06:34Once.
06:34Once.
06:35No, it was not.
06:36Yeah, it was.
06:37I would have lied to her like a sack.
06:40Oh, f***ing.
06:43Yeah, all right.
06:44Paul, do you have one?
06:44It's got bells on it.
06:45But hold on a second.
06:46You spent weeks telling us, and up till this morning, that you hadn't had sex with her.
06:50And when we said to a lie detector, because she's saying you were in a relationship and you're saying you're not,
06:54you said, no, no, no, but only this morning did you say yes to you're a liar, aren't you?
06:57You did have a relationship with her, didn't you?
06:59Er, not.
07:00You used her for a roof over your head.
07:02Not until I ended a relationship after 15 years back in April this year.
07:06So you're not in love with her?
07:08No.
07:08F***ing.
07:10Who's that?
07:12That's her daughter.
07:18Where's your daughter next door?
07:19Where's the daughter?
07:21Oh, actually, oh, she's got, oh, here it comes.
07:24Here comes, here comes.
07:26Hold on a second.
07:26Here comes your, what have we got?
07:28Oh, my God, have a look.
07:31Here's your.
07:33That's f***ing.
07:35Really?
07:35Here you go.
07:38Oh, look.
07:38Condoms.
07:40You need protection, don't you?
07:42Shut up.
07:43Why don't you?
07:44Why don't you just go and get her life?
07:46No, put something on.
07:48Sorry, I've done this show a long time.
07:49What is this?
07:50It's a buy-in-side-up.
07:52I'm going to wash it, yeah?
07:53If Philip and Holly are warming up and getting ready for their show,
07:56I do apologise.
07:57I've basically got three arguments to leave with me here.
07:58Where's the rest for one of whom doesn't wash?
08:00Two pegs, a packet of condoms and a bicycle trailer.
08:03Back in a minute.
08:04Don't go anywhere.
08:06I'm not stopping that smelly.
08:09Give him back.
08:10Give him some.
08:11Could you wash your man, please, with the same soap that you put on the end of his what's-it?
08:17What do you mean you're not coming out?
08:18No, I've got his stuff and that's it.
08:20Really?
08:20Yep.
08:21Well, you are coming out because we're going to do the lie detector.
08:24We're going to do it properly.
08:25You're not running this show.
08:26I am.
08:26Get your backside out here and support your man for two minutes.
08:43It's all kicking off.
08:44Security.
08:47It's all kicking off.
08:51This test says you're a liar, love.
08:54This isn't about you.
08:56This is about your children.
08:57Oh, here we go.
08:58The car is in place.
08:59OK, more happiness after...
09:01Oh, get off.
09:05No, no, no, no, no.
09:07Oh, my Lord.
09:12Nick, Felix, go for us to put up with this.
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09:42Thank you very much indeed.
09:52Welcome back.
09:52What a break.
09:53It's all a bit bizarre.
09:54So basically, Elaine came out and said,
09:57I was in a relationship for, well, twice for four years with Dino.
10:01Dino I met online.
10:03Stinks like a fish.
10:04You have to have a peg on your nose.
10:06I want him out of my life.
10:07He used me, abused me, slagged me off.
10:09He took advantage.
10:10I want him to take his stuff back.
10:12You came out and said, she's a fantasist.
10:14You did have sex with her.
10:15Who are you, by the way?
10:18I'm Angela.
10:18You're her daughter?
10:19Yeah.
10:20Have you met this man before?
10:21Yes.
10:21And?
10:22He's a scumbag.
10:24He needs to learn how to have a wash.
10:26Right?
10:27The only time he has a wash is when he goes to a hotel.
10:29I think we've done the hygiene thing.
10:31What is, are these his possessions?
10:33Not all of it.
10:34Majority, but, well, not majority, but.
10:37Was he in a relationship with your mother?
10:39Yes.
10:39A serious relationship?
10:41Yes.
10:41Not for four years, I was not.
10:452006 to 2009 makes four, doesn't it?
10:48Right?
10:48I was in a relationship.
10:49How long were you with him?
11:04Four years.
11:05From 2006 to 2009.
11:09That's great.
11:11What?
11:11Can we get back?
11:13Why is there so much animosity?
11:14Do you want to be with her?
11:15No, I don't.
11:16All I want, I've been asking to go over there and arrange with my mother.
11:19You've got it.
11:20Your bike trailer has got rusty wheels.
11:22Who's the new woman?
11:22Who was that woman?
11:23Is that your new birth?
11:24That's a family friend.
11:24Oh, yeah.
11:25Family friend.
11:26I know the family very well.
11:30What's her name?
11:32Mandy.
11:32Oh, you don't even know her name.
11:33Are you sleeping with her?
11:34No, I'm not.
11:36You are, aren't you?
11:39You're next to the Jeremy Carter.
11:45Are you so quiet now?
11:50Are you allowed before?
11:51Are you sleeping with him?
11:52No, I ain't, no.
11:52You have been there, haven't you?
11:54No.
11:54Come on.
11:55Me too, though.
11:55Twenty or two years ago, more like.
11:56Twenty or two years ago, yeah.
11:57Why are you here?
11:58Because it says you're his partner, but you didn't want to admit that you're his partner.
12:01You are his partner.
12:02No.
12:03Yes, you are.
12:04I've loved Dean since I was 17 years of age.
12:07Yeah, I've known him since I was 17.
12:08You've been in love with him, haven't you?
12:10Come on, love it doesn't matter.
12:11Yeah, I'm in love with him, yeah.
12:11But he was married when I first met him.
12:13Yeah, now we're finally together, you told my team.
12:15Because I was married, thank you.
12:17Yeah, that's probably like.
12:18Anyway, you're terrible at our lives, as it is.
12:21So I got married in 92.
12:23Oh, we're about to mathematics, that was.
12:25I was.
12:27You only get married to my mum, right?
12:29No, I don't.
12:30No, no.
12:30Yes, you did when you were with her.
12:32No, he said he wouldn't get married to me.
12:33Who's Vicky?
12:34It's just a piece of paper.
12:36Who are you?
12:37I'm Mandy Stalwa.
12:38Mandy's?
12:38What's your view of this?
12:40It's just stupid, pathetic.
12:41You both think to leave each other alone, give him back his stuff.
12:45I'm not stopping his stuff, am I?
12:49No, no, I won't.
12:51I'm not stopping that smelly **** giving him stuff.
12:56I'm not stopping his stuff.
12:57Could you wash your mouth, please, with the same soap that you put on the end of his what's-it?
13:02What did you just say?
13:03Is your mother in love with him, let's be honest?
13:06I don't, I don't know, and I don't care, she's her own person, she can go out with whoever the **** she wants.
13:11Nice, elegantly put.
13:13Do you think, do you think that Elaine is still in love with him?
13:16I couldn't care.
13:18Sorry.
13:19The first time of me meeting you two, with a barge pole, I've heard a lot about you.
13:25Where are you going now?
13:27Get the rest of his stuff.
13:28What?
13:29With stuff.
13:30I want you.
13:31You're going to get what?
13:32I don't even know I have a sex.
13:35What's she doing now?
13:37What's she doing now?
13:39What stuff?
13:40Where's she?
13:41Trying to do a television show, what's going on?
13:44Sorry, wait, hello?
13:46What is this?
13:47The rest of his stuff.
13:48That's her stuff?
13:49That's his stuff, yeah, it's DVDs and all that, like, yeah.
13:52Right.
13:53But don't seem all of it there.
13:55You're in love with him, aren't you?
13:56No, I'm not, no.
13:57The boxer shorts.
13:58Oh, I don't have the boxer shorts.
13:59I'm not taking them out of the packet.
14:00I might be sitting right.
14:01Hold on a second.
14:02So, we've just found, apparently, we've just found the rest of your stuff.
14:05Where are you going now?
14:06Yeah?
14:07Yeah, yeah, yeah.
14:08Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
14:10I don't know what we're doing now.
14:12I do wish I knew what was going on.
14:16Move on with it.
14:17Get out of my face.
14:18Get out of my face.
14:19Get out of my face.
14:20Get out of my face.
14:21Get out of my face.
14:22Get out of my face.
14:23Get out of my face.
14:24Oh, what, what are you going to do, eh?
14:26Hello.
14:27Get out of my face.
14:28Sorry.
14:29Could you, could you, could you go back and see?
14:30Get out of my face.
14:31You need to get your out of mine, right?
14:32Don't add enough of it.
14:33You're telling her to say, I keep arranging the dice to come over.
14:34If only it's called down people.
14:35Are you in love with him?
14:36No, I'm not.
14:37Then get on stage and shut up and wash your mouth out and stop going on.
14:38Do me everything.
14:39Hey!
14:40You got your new bird out here as well.
14:41Call your, call your new girlfriend.
14:42I don't even know what's going on anymore.
14:43Why did we do a lie detector?
14:44To prove you did have sex with him.
14:45Yeah.
14:46More than once.
14:47What do you mean she's not coming out?
14:48She's not coming out.
14:49Who's show is this?
14:50What do you mean you're not coming out?
14:51No, I've got his stuff and that's it.
14:52Really?
14:53Yeah.
14:54Well you are coming out because we're going to do the lie detector.
14:55We're going to do it properly.
14:56You're not running this show.
14:57I am.
14:58Get your backside out here and support your man for two minutes.
15:01Come on.
15:02Come on, let me go.
15:03Come on.
15:04Come on.
15:05Come on.
15:06Come on.
15:07Come on.
15:08Come on.
15:09Come on.
15:10Come on.
15:11Come on.
15:12Come on.
15:13Come on.
15:14Come on.
15:15Come on.
15:16Come on.
15:17Come on.
15:18Come on.
15:19Come on.
15:20Come on.
15:25Ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
15:26What are you looking like that for?
15:28I'm all right.
15:30We asked Elaine quite why I've got absolutely no idea, to be honest with you.
15:34Did you passionately kiss Dean on more than one occasion?
15:36You said yes, she was telling the truth.
15:42She says...
15:43She says you had a full sexual relationship with her more than the one she's admitted to,
15:47so you were in a relationship.
15:48Not that it matters, because you've got your pig in stuff.
15:51You apparently don't want to be with him.
15:53You think he sticks to eye heaven.
15:54I don't want to be with him.
15:55You found the love of your life.
15:56Never the train shall meet.
15:57What's the problem?
15:58I keep arranging.
15:59I keep arranging.
16:00You've got the blimmin' stuff!
16:02Every time I arrange a gun.
16:03It doesn't matter.
16:04You've got...
16:05Right, take your trailer.
16:06Right, listen.
16:07Right, listen.
16:08Right, listen.
16:09The pin's missing.
16:10What?
16:11The pin's missing.
16:12What do you mean?
16:13I don't care about the pin.
16:14Don't forget the exure.
16:15What's this?
16:16The condom.
16:17Get closer.
16:18Extra sensation.
16:19I hope that it's been worthwhile.
16:20It's been lovely to see you.
16:21Oh, for God's sake.
16:22Could you take the trailer and you go back?
16:23Hold on.
16:24Don't forget the condoms.
16:25You go that way.
16:26You go that way.
16:27Goodbye.
16:28You just tuned in.
16:29This is a brand-new show.
16:30It's the Jeremy Kyle Antiques Roadshow.
16:31Hold on.
16:32And that just about sums my life up, doesn't it?
16:33There you go.
16:34Four people in opposite directions.
16:35The two of the children are standing there.
16:36Don't forget the condoms.
16:37I hope that it's been worthwhile.
16:40It's been lovely to see you.
16:41Oh, for God's sake.
16:42Could you take the trailer and you go back?
16:43Hold on.
16:44Don't forget the condoms.
16:45You go that way.
16:46You go that way.
16:47Goodbye.
16:48You just tuned in.
16:49This is a brand-new show.
16:50It's the Jeremy Kyle Antiques Roadshow.
16:53Hold on.
16:54And that just about sums my life up, doesn't it?
16:55There you go.
16:56Four people in opposite directions and no condoms still here.
16:59We'll be back after the break. See you. Bye.
17:01Because of your lack of trust, you've asked her to do a lie detector
17:04and quite shockingly a DNA test.
17:06There are accusations that it's somebody very, very close to you.
17:09Tell me more.
17:10Who?
17:10My dad.
17:12Have you slept with his father?
17:14No.
17:14But you cheated on him at the beginning of the relationship, didn't you?
17:17Yeah.
17:17We asked Laura, have you ever passionately kissed the man in question?
17:21You said no.
17:21Why'd you say no, Laura?
17:26It's all kicking off security.
17:48This test is you're a liar, love.
17:51This isn't about you, this is about your children.
17:53Oh, here we go.
17:54OK, more happiness after...
17:58Oh, get off.
18:01No, no, no, no, no, no.
18:03I'm breaking that wall.
18:06Oh, my Lord.
18:08We need Felix Schofield.
18:09Let us to put up with this.
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18:38thank you very much for being welcome at my next guest today mark is here for dna and lie detector
18:51results mark says that he is utterly convinced his partner laura has cheated on him and is terrified
18:55and i mean that that his six-month-old daughter isabella may isn't his now incredibly the man
19:00he thinks she cheated on him with is his dad massive day for this guy marks on the jeremy carl
19:06show that way
19:07of somebody who is haunted and who wouldn't be and i know how important this is for you today
19:20and i appreciate you coming actually why why are you here why are you doing it this way
19:23um it's easier to get everything i want you're right yeah been with um been with laura for 19
19:33months um six-month-old daughter isabella may um i know it's difficult i can see it in your eyes i
19:39need you to uh speak up how'd you meet uh in the pub the night of my birthday you said she has
19:45something that others don't have and you fell for a straightaway what do you mean by that
19:48she seemed different than the rest of them you love her don't you yeah things change two months
19:55in what she went on a night out and she slept with someone um she told me everything i know
20:04it's true i don't trust her yeah right do you want me to sugarcoat this or do this properly properly
20:13how many times has she cheated on you mark um once
20:17that i know but anyway today um because of your lack of trust you've asked her to do a lie
20:25detector and quite shockingly a dna test i said in the introduction i guess most of britain and
20:29certainly the people in this audience when there are accusations that it's somebody very very close
20:34to you tell me more who my dad i went out and then i got to meet me and she was red in the face
20:45out of breath hair fuzzy i went back he was the same as well you're implying that that happened what
20:53did she confess what did she say that she did uh take me through i know it's difficult but just take
21:01me through it from the beginning a bit louder if you can what did she say to you what did she confess
21:05that she slept with him um and she kept on changing the story how it happened why would you be
21:12with a woman that's done that i love her you told my team a bit of what you believe happened he
21:21started by kissing her take us through it what happened next one minute there's plenty of slaps
21:26then he grabbed and started kissing her then it happened like that um she was quite descriptive
21:34wasn't she yeah what did she say it's a change and um she said the deal on the sofa and you know
21:44it's because i found her to meet me was she pregnant she wasn't at this time not at the time
21:49so you must have gone through well well first of all when she admits something that heinous why
21:53didn't you run for the hills why did you say do you know do you believe do you believe the person
22:02that you've said is capable of such an act yeah and if it's true and the lie detector proves that
22:09her initial reaction to you was in fact true despite the fact that she's now backtrack what happens
22:12mark don't tell me you're going to stay with her there's a lot of things to sort out because
22:17there's a line mate there's a line between love and madness she's now denying that this ever happened
22:28and said that you're a paranoid pain in the backside it drives it to almost madness which is why she let
22:33this out the bag the kid is six months of age isabella may you say the child looks nothing like
22:38you you can't build a bond but she's important to this kid yeah can i say one thing because i have
22:45the greatest admiration that you are here and i'm allowed to speak from experience you can hang
22:49around hoping it's going to get better power you can see the light and if you discover today
22:53if you um if you discover today that she's done quite simply one of the most disgusting things in
23:01the world mate i'd run for the hills uh laura's on the jeremy cowell show that way
23:06are you surprised by that reaction because you're a woman you expected everybody to cheer you are one
23:18disgusting lady if what you said to him is true why would you say it and then attract it something
23:22so horrible it's because he was i can't hear you it's because he kept going on about it so have you
23:29slept with his father no but you cheated on at the beginning of the relationship didn't you yeah why
23:34i'm not too sure what do you mean you're not so sure what do you think you're going to come out
23:38here and look at the floor and people are going to feel sorry for you a man who painfully loves you
23:41you slept with somebody close to him why because if you were a bloke they'd be jumping around why
23:47somebody who loves you and is a little bit i don't know you tell him you've had sex with his own
23:57father come on talk laura oh yeah you know what he's completely in love so don't look at him look
24:05at me because i'm not him tell me the truth why would you say that to somebody you love
24:10he just kept going on about it so to get him off my case i said yeah i did when i didn't
24:17this person that was so close to him did you have sex with him no so you're going to pass yeah
24:24why were you so able to describe in detail what happened with this other person
24:29because i made it up
24:32what happened
24:34is um is mark the father of your baby look at this guy look what you've done to this guy
24:40see my family said hey they she don't look like me everyone said that
24:48i've not been with any other men in the 19 months we've been together but you have haven't you
24:54cheated on him at the beginning didn't you so that's a lie isn't it what did you expect when
24:59you came out here i was just going to look at you and just you know you just everything was going
25:02to be fine if you made that up about the other person the person that's probably or should be the
25:08closest to him in the world that's pretty sick and if you prove you haven't done that it doesn't
25:12take away from the fact that it's quite sick but i can't believe you sit there looking all pious
25:17have you got no sort of apology yeah well why aren't you speaking then i've told him those times i'm
25:25sorry for it there's no dna doubts for me i will pass that and i will pass the lie detector mark is 100
25:31the father of my child i wouldn't do that i made it up i'll pass with flying colors i'm not a cheat
25:36and i want help to put um but here's the best bit because she won't say this now you told my team
25:44he owes you an apology why does mark owe you an apology oh when like it comes back that i haven't
25:49cheated and that the baby is his then he owes me the apology oh what oh that's what i was meant by
25:55getting confident now aren't we how many people in the audience think this woman hasn't cheated on
26:00him hasn't
26:01two
26:04what happens if you're all right aren't you to be honest let's be fair even if he has even if you
26:11have he's going to forgive you anyway isn't he because he's got doormat printed all over his
26:15forehead isn't he but let me tell you one thing if you've so much as even failed one question
26:20i'm going to put the full might of everything to do with this show behind this man and make
26:23sure he dumps your backside dna results the baby beautiful isabella may six months of age these
26:36doubts started because of the lies you say that you paid out the dna test results show the mark
26:43breathe pal she's your daughter
26:46i do take your point that there are people on this show who feel that they get it so often that you
27:04just say something to cause a reaction beautiful kid that's your daughter how does that feel amazing
27:09the accusation for the lie detector is based on somebody incredibly close to mark you say i said
27:16it to hurt him i instantly knew it was the wrong thing i retracted it and that's why i've done this
27:22lie detector we asked laura have you ever passionately kissed the man in question you said no why did
27:27you say no laura this test says you're a dirty liar doesn't it come on laura time for the truth
27:35i take no joy in this she failed every single question including including including sexual
27:42intercourse now you might be able to sit there and look like you do because he's a nice bloke but the
27:47closest person you're sick love and you need to be honest and admit what you've done
27:52now you did didn't you why'd you fail the test then why did you fail the test probably had nerves or
28:02something i'm not sure see i'm not gonna get angry because i already knew that i knew that you're not
28:09going to get angry i've never for months and months and months you know and it's been eating me up inside
28:17until now and i've finally got them you can stay with a woman who slept with it's not that all my
28:23family everyone was saying i was mad had it all in my head yeah she's mine but that's where the
28:30dals come from here's what you should be saying i'm not mad she's mine and i'm worth more than you
28:38love so i'm gonna be a father and i don't want to be with you anyway he doesn't want to be with you
28:43anyway look at her you um you don't you don't want to be with him do you yeah i don't how can you be
28:49with him with what you did you did cheat didn't you nobody believes you something happened didn't it
28:56come on you can't say a line because with the man in question something happened tell i know what
29:02happens story was true wasn't it every time i watch a show you always say why are you not mad you told
29:09us in detail the guy talked dirty to you and then started kissing you love what do you expect me to
29:14do the people watching this if you were a bloke they'd be howling you sit there with your hands on
29:19you know below your legs going oh you're a liar you crossed the worst line but actually weirdly
29:27strangely unbelievably this guy loves you so tell him the truth come on i'll talk after tell him
29:36the truth for me babe something did happen didn't it just tell me now it doesn't matter we'll do the
29:42rest listen to me we'll do the rest of it but i want you to be big enough and honest enough to look
29:48him in the face and say something did happen with with the man in question then why do you want to
29:53talk later come on babe you always said lie detectors on this show is right he's going to forgive you
29:59but you need to be honest the first part he's known just tell him and then you can talk in detail
30:04something happened didn't it what do my knowledge you didn't have a drink you say about yes you do
30:12and do you know something you know that that hurdle once you say it it'll be palpable relief
30:18something happened my own dad has lied to my face about it my own dad i would have thought right
30:26now he'd be pretty mad with you and i don't think you're seizing this opportunity if you want to make
30:31this work with whatever help we can garner it was a mistake i'll give you that if you like but you need
30:37to look him in the face and be the person you think you are and just something happened with the
30:41man in question didn't it you made a mistake didn't you i don't know but according to that i hear we
30:47have we're nearly there here's the thing to me though i haven't i haven't done nothing but
30:53you've always said the light detectors are right why would you fail repeat what you said they did
31:01um she told me that the plate happy slaps well yeah on the hands and he grabbed her and kissed her
31:09did he i can't remember it was ages ago you can't forget something like that never just say it
31:17had he kissed you i know the whole story and you don't seem to understand that you've got a really
31:23good chance here if you admit it to make this better something happened didn't it don't know
31:28yeah you do um you are an amazing man some people will go sap some people will go doormat i know
31:36your daughter's important to you but i'll tell you one thing she's shown you what she's capable of
31:41right um some people would walk you will make your own choice this show will do what it always does
31:46and support you and provide whatever help we can but let me tell you something my dad isn't going
31:49away with this but i'd be dealing with your own mess oh well oh well something happened didn't it
31:54i don't know i can't remember you don't forget something like that if i had sex with your mom
32:02i certainly wouldn't forget that would i it's probably the greatest line that's ever been uttered
32:14at the worst moment you want to talk to her backstage with graham and the team let me tell you
32:21something else about this man you should be thanking your lucky stars because he's a nice man
32:26i quite painfully come from a different world after this break dna results from the jk show we're
32:38right back will this relationship with our help get back on train yeah with your help yeah what about
32:45if the baby's not yours i mean merely big doubts to be fair but my head would be all over the place
32:50i wouldn't know what to do how scared are you you know you failed the lie detector was this early
32:58on in the relationship i think is it around the time he conceived probably i can't even remember
33:06the dna testers are sure that david
33:09it's getting worse yes i need your help and i'm not leaving this stage till i get your help
33:20i want my life back give me the chance to prove you're wrong i mean give me a chance to prove you're
33:26wrong i want to see i want me kids
33:29my name is emma and i believe i'm your daughter this is my last chance i've always thought about
33:41you're getting cocked up
33:42she got her full house
33:46your grandchild
33:50you'll sort this okay i promise you listen it's all right
33:56he wants to be a dad he wants to have a relationship with his child
34:00he's your dad
34:01you will today go to rehab you are the child
34:06you are the child
34:08you can change and if there's anybody out there or thinks i can't come and get jenny's help trust me
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34:41thank you very much indeed welcome back and you might just remember my next guest from yesterday's show
34:53take a look at this my friends
34:54she's agreed finally to do the lie detector
34:57yeah she's finally agreed to do the lie detector
34:59surely you'll find out if she's a cheat on that then
35:02and then you'll have doubts about the kids
35:03so you think she's going to pass the lie detector
35:05yeah of course i do
35:05what is your problem
35:06don't need to prove anything to anyone at the end of the day
35:08then why are you here doing a lie detector test then
35:11let's prove everyone around
35:13since the start of your relationship with david apart from what you just admitted to
35:16if you had sexual contact with any other person
35:18she said no because she was lying david
35:21hey guess what pal she lied on every single question
35:25listen to me
35:27i need the dna test
35:28you have got two kids with this man
35:30right you need to prove dylan disease
35:34and you need to sort your relationship after today is a sham
35:38look at me and don't look away
35:40you're scared of the dna aren't you
35:42yeah
35:43yeah okay
35:44all right listen that's fine
35:46i think the very least you can do
35:47is offer this man a dna test
35:50yeah i want the dna test done
35:51so you can give me now
35:53i can't i can't play a part in dylan's life till you prove to me that he's mine
35:56can't do it
35:57stay tonight
35:58come back tomorrow morning
36:00do the dna test
36:01we'll discover the truth and i promise you this show will help you whatever the outcome
36:05now after that show david and beth sat with graham and his team they decided it was important that they came back to the show today to do that dna test on their eldest son
36:14remember he is via dna the father of the youngest david says he was heartbroken when beth failed the lie detector yesterday
36:20admits it would be massively difficult to raise dylan as his own if the dna proves he's not the father but they both admit that however difficult this might be it's important to do it it's on a knife edge david is back on the jeremy car show that way
36:33i guess it's not a different approach really after yesterday because it was almost like a light came on even for me with this girl that you've been with for three years that
36:51you know she'd come here and shouted and screamed and we'd done the dna on the youngest because of the rumors
36:57yeah you're the father that's great still the rumors persisted you wanted her to do a dna on the oldest but she thought well i'll maybe cut him off at the pass and do a dna a lie detector failed that
37:08first of all how was that to hear yesterday not very good well i didn't think i'd hear it to be fair i didn't i didn't want to hear it i didn't want to i didn't think she'd fail
37:16i didn't before we talk about the dna you love this woman are you prepared to forgive her for the for the lie detector
37:22i'd take a step at a time i want to see if uh the eldest is actually mine first and we'll build a bridge on it because like i say i've um
37:32well looked after him for two and a half years since you were born got him everything he needs i'm not prepared to throw that away
37:39in terms of this lady i saw a very different side out the back when she cracked and it was pretty obvious to us all watching it and graham and i were talking about this that
37:46that this is a massive moment for probably something she doesn't want to have to face up to and is terrified by the results let's say
37:52that all of this worry has been unnecessary and things are good will this relationship with our help get back on track
37:59yeah with your help yeah what about if the baby's not yours i'm in really big doubts to be fair my head
38:07would be all over the place i wouldn't know what to do told my team last night if it's somebody else's i'll track
38:12him down i want two and a half years i'll definitely track him down and the two years he's not been there i'll
38:17be making sure that he'll be paying child maintenance and that the two years i've spent with a child that could
38:23not be mine that he's going to be made be making up for it isn't that it's on display
38:31isn't that um
38:33isn't that best responsibility
38:35yeah but if beth is not prepared to do it
38:37do you love beth yeah
38:39i don't condone what she's done to me
38:41does this other person know there's a chance he could be the father
38:45not as far as i know um she has told me the person obviously there's two years
38:51so if you flip it around you can say i'm going to go find him and get two and a half years of maintenance
38:55you could turn it round and say that because of
38:57the situation her lies her inability or unwillingness to face up to it that actually he's missed out
39:03yeah there is that question that he's obviously missed out but then um obviously if beth's not told him yet
39:09if beth goes to tell him um
39:11but i wonder about men out there who if they're watching this would think if there was a child out there that i didn't know i was
39:16the father to for two and a half years i'd be pretty hacked off wouldn't i
39:19yeah but is he prepared if beth was to tell him is he prepared to step up to the mark
39:23i don't know until we tell you we're talking out of thing i mean i'm hopeful
39:26yeah massively hopeful that
39:28as the youngest is yours that the oldest will be yours and that you know we can work with graham and the team
39:34to get over
39:35this relationship problem that resulted in her cheating but
39:39i'm trying to understand all sides and try and get my head around what's going to happen
39:43i do admire this young lady um
39:45for coming back today because it would have been really easy
39:48to have run away
39:49and swept it under the carpet you're right kidder
39:52not really
39:53nervous
39:54what does it mean today
39:55a hell of a lot
39:56all right let's get her out
39:57best back on the jeremy carl show that way
40:07that looked like the archetypal walk up the plank um thank you by the way
40:12thank you for finally showing me the real you yesterday and thank you for opening up to graham and the team
40:20how scared are you
40:21can i get some tissues please it takes so long for anybody to bring tissues out i've no idea
40:33talk to me
40:34talk to me
40:39you know you failed the lie detector was this early on in the relationship
40:43i think
40:45is it around the time you conceived
40:48probably i can't even remember
40:50have you lived with this for a long time
40:52it would be your worst case scenario
40:55why now babe why did you suddenly decide that you would do this because i respect you for that
41:03why
41:05just
41:06it's for dylan's sick at the end of the day
41:09and for his sake
41:10you love this man
41:11yeah i do
41:12talk to him
41:15talk to her
41:19i'll just hope he's mine but i'll still be there for him if he isn't
41:24will you be there for her if he isn't
41:26i've been there for two and a half well obviously i've been there for three four years
41:30and obviously
41:32i'm going to try and make it work
41:35let me just say one thing
41:37everybody in this audience everybody watching this show has made mistakes in their lives
41:42i just was personally relieved yesterday that we finally cracked the ice maiden and we saw the real her
41:46because underneath she's a scared kid who probably doesn't want to have to do this
41:52but cares enough about her kid to have finally got there
41:55and i wanted this to be different today i don't want it to be all the shouting and screaming
41:59what are you more terrified about the fact you're going to lose david if the news is bad or
42:04you'll be a single mum or what
42:05i'm scared that i'll lose david
42:08tell him
42:10i told you last night i'm scared to lose you
42:13you're still last night that you're scared of losing me
42:14did you tell the other man if the other guy's the dad do you know who the other guy is
42:17yeah i know who the other guy is
42:18can you tell him
42:19i probably will tell him
42:21because dylan needs to know who the dad is
42:25you're alright underneath aren't you
42:27yeah
42:28made a mistake
42:29do you know what my old mum said
42:30blessed she passed away six months ago
42:32she used to say
42:34things are never as bad when you've done in 24 hours
42:38that the worry is always the main thing
42:39but you have to understand from our point of view
42:42you lied for a long time
42:44yeah
42:46for two years to him potentially
42:48tried to
42:50pour water on the flames whenever you came here
42:53and now's the moment, you alright?
42:57there he is
42:59the dna test results show that david
43:13i'm not going to dress it up you're not the child's biological father
43:17i'm sorry
43:21can i get graham please
43:29talk to me
43:44lost the words
43:46okay
43:48beth
43:50your worst nightmare
43:52no more secrets
43:55no more secrets
44:00sorry
44:04what do we do g
44:05well now is just not the time to make any decisions
44:08okay
44:10we have to do
44:11kind of accommodate the news
44:13that you've just been given
44:14and it's like dropping a pebble isn't it into a pond and
44:17the ramifications to your lives here
44:21can be huge
44:22you're not going to be huge
44:27however
44:28probably wrong
44:30probably somebody later saying
44:31why do you always say things like that
44:33um
44:34i'm the one who
44:36um
44:37entrenched in his views and he's very black and white apparently but I saw something in your
44:43girlfriend's face yesterday when she finally not was forced but realized that the time was up and
44:49she needed to be honest I saw a very different girl to the girl that I've met before I like you
44:56I think you've been a great dad and I think you've been wronged but I'm sure that you too have made
45:01mistakes in your life and sometimes mistakes that you make in her case the ramifications are huge
45:08I think Graham's exactly right I think the wrong thing right now would be to be instantaneous
45:13and to with emotion charging through every part of your body make a decision that you regret that's
45:21not me saying you should stay together split up it's me saying please take your time and as you
45:27did by coming back put your children at the forefront of whatever decision you made neither
45:32this is not the result that either one of you wanted but I suppose I need to ask the question
45:39are you still not happy but are you still well maybe happy that you did the test I'm happy now
45:47I am happy that you're happy that you did the test it's out there basically that okay obviously I was
45:53hundred but like I said I was hundred percent that it was mine but the DNS test doesn't lie
46:00are you happy that you've cleared up that situation that's been bothering you for several years
46:08it's interesting isn't it that that you haven't got the result that you wanted yet you both agree that
46:15you did the right thing by having this test and I didn't I do think that just having this result
46:22which is not the result that you wanted will allow you now to start moving forward okay um everybody
46:30again you know yin and yang everybody deserves the hope to know who their father is you said before
46:35that you know who the father is are you definitely going to tell that guy do you want our help with
46:39that or are you okay you want our help with that we'll do that um listen we've had our moments you
46:47and I but I admire you for coming back um I hope you're okay kid because horrible but you're better
46:54than somebody that would stand up scream and shout swear and never see her or the kids again you're a
46:59decent man you've been wronged thank you guys
47:13that's the thing about this show controlled environment it's very raw they didn't get the
47:19answers that they wanted we'll work with them we'll let you know I am for this morning out of time don't
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47:33we will of course be back with Jeremy tomorrow morning at 9 25 next though it's those two Eamon
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