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00:00:00Manhood, brought you in part by Reboot, Super Farm and Solomon's Bespoke.
00:00:10So welcome to another episode edition of Manhood where we always aim to be better as brothers.
00:00:17And I think we're achieving that. Again, you know, we've been so many episodes in and the purpose of this show,
00:00:22the reason we created this show, this podcast, this TV show, this, you know, even on the radio,
00:00:27was to always aim to be better as brothers and to leave brothers with something of a positive insight, a light,
00:00:34something to take you to that next step, that next destination, you know, small steps, a big step, whatever it takes.
00:00:40You know, and that's why we're here today. And, you know, I like to say it, we don't aim to speak on behalf of all men,
00:00:50but we, for all intents and purposes, some of the topics that we speak about and what we say is what our man is.
00:00:58From the feedback we get on the streets and I feel like we're speaking on behalf of all men.
00:01:03We're speaking on behalf of all men.
00:01:07Versatility. Now, versatility means many things. There's a dictionary meaning, of course,
00:01:11and there are persons who just transcend each and every boundary and always overcome any hurdles that are put in their way
00:01:18and live their true self. And that's what we always talk about as part of being a man is being true to thyself.
00:01:24So, without further ado, to my right, Johanse Aoudike, behavior change consultant, to his right,
00:01:30man who certainly needs no introduction, wetting after wetting.
00:01:34Wetting after wetting after wetting.
00:01:36That even still relevant?
00:01:37You know, hey, I like it.
00:01:39Whether it's show my age or not.
00:01:40Wetting is always relevant enough.
00:01:42Ian Allen.
00:01:43Remember that? Wetting is always relevant.
00:01:44Wetting is always relevant.
00:01:45But, you know, like yourself.
00:01:48I'm sure throughout this episode, we'll hear a lot more of those little moments that we love.
00:01:54Ian Allen, Crimewatch host.
00:01:56To his left, the one and only.
00:01:58His right.
00:01:59His right.
00:01:59They mix up that again.
00:02:01His right.
00:02:01You know, hey, they look alike.
00:02:04So, Niall McNeish, producer, many things, versatile.
00:02:10The description of versatility.
00:02:12So, let's get right into it.
00:02:13So, Niall's into what?
00:02:15All kind of things.
00:02:16That's why you mix it versatile.
00:02:17I do art.
00:02:18I make rugs.
00:02:20This.
00:02:20I can make a rug with my name on it?
00:02:22Of course.
00:02:22I can do anything.
00:02:23Okay, okay.
00:02:23With your face name.
00:02:24Okay.
00:02:25Look, I'm going to call my studio from my house, from my studio.
00:02:29Yeah.
00:02:29Yeah, say less.
00:02:30So, you see why he said left instead of right?
00:02:32That's why Ian calling him man miles.
00:02:35Yeah.
00:02:35Right?
00:02:36So, you know.
00:02:36Niall, Niall.
00:02:37So, all of that is versatility then, right?
00:02:40Yeah.
00:02:40Right?
00:02:40So, you calling right, left.
00:02:42Now, you being versatile.
00:02:43You calling Niall's miles.
00:02:46That is being versatile?
00:02:48Well, it's something.
00:02:50It's something.
00:02:50It's something.
00:02:51Yeah.
00:02:51It's wrong.
00:02:52It's wrong.
00:02:52Yeah.
00:02:52Yeah.
00:02:53If I do.
00:02:53What do you do?
00:02:54I'm a behavior change consultant.
00:02:56A what?
00:02:56A behavior change consultant.
00:02:58Okay.
00:02:59You're going to be laughing.
00:03:00Okay, okay, okay, okay.
00:03:01What do you think that means?
00:03:03Like a psychotic business boy.
00:03:06No, well, of course, you must understand behavioral pattern.
00:03:08Right.
00:03:08You understand everybody has a pattern.
00:03:10And it's a very distinguished career, behavioral pattern to understanding people, you know,
00:03:15people's personality, you know.
00:03:18It's diving into your soul.
00:03:20That's a kind of hard thing to do.
00:03:21But on the outside, you know, on the show, what kind of love you believe in?
00:03:28I feel like I've taken over the show.
00:03:29What kind of love you believe in?
00:03:30It's a behavioral kind of pattern business.
00:03:33All right.
00:03:34What kind of love I believe in?
00:03:35Yeah.
00:03:36Transactional.
00:03:38Nah, I believe in our next kind of love.
00:03:40What?
00:03:40You had to tell us?
00:03:41You know what kind of love I believe in?
00:03:42Let me hear you.
00:03:43Toxic love.
00:03:45Why do I like toxic love?
00:03:46That's toxic love.
00:03:48What is toxic love?
00:03:49Wait, see.
00:03:49Toxic love.
00:03:50Back in our love now.
00:03:50I think I'm just going to dress back.
00:03:52Define.
00:03:52Hold on, hold on, hold on.
00:03:53Let me just dress back.
00:03:54How do you do that?
00:03:55That's kind of back in our love.
00:03:57Define what you mean by toxic.
00:03:58Oh, good.
00:03:59God, you can't take me through all that with this kind of.
00:04:02We have all the time.
00:04:04There's the versatility of things.
00:04:05There are people who just like drama.
00:04:08There are people.
00:04:08It's half people out there.
00:04:10And kick over.
00:04:11They get a kick over.
00:04:12There are women who just like back and all mash up your phone.
00:04:16Why didn't answer your phone?
00:04:17Which part is, come, nobody plays things in the back and all.
00:04:20It's half people like that.
00:04:21Right.
00:04:21People believe that then.
00:04:23When I see that, I don't really like me then, you know.
00:04:25Oh, so if it is.
00:04:26Oh, yeah.
00:04:26I did hear something like that where if the man not cheating me bad, he don't love me.
00:04:31No, it's just not me.
00:04:32It's not really me.
00:04:33It's not really me.
00:04:34Just think, you know, it's just not me.
00:04:36But who does not, you know.
00:04:38No, it creates an excitement.
00:04:40I'm not going to say it's excitement.
00:04:41And we were talking about fulfillment and satisfaction before, right?
00:04:45Because we are all different.
00:04:47What gives us that excitement is different.
00:04:50Yeah.
00:04:50But we live in a society that try to box everybody in in the same way.
00:04:54Yeah, that's bad.
00:04:55But it don't work.
00:04:56And that's why we have to be versatile.
00:04:58Yeah.
00:04:58So I want to get back to versatility, right?
00:05:00Because I brought the chair back up.
00:05:03So I claim it back the show, right?
00:05:05Claim it back the show.
00:05:06Claim it back.
00:05:06Claim it back.
00:05:07Claim it back.
00:05:07So, Ian, you've been in this, I mean, you're nationally known, breaking many stories.
00:05:13Crime Watch is one of the biggest, if not the biggest, show on local TV at the moment.
00:05:21Second to manhood, of course.
00:05:22No, but you've really done some groundbreaking things.
00:05:29How did you get into this field, first of all?
00:05:33And when, apart from doing what you do, which takes a lot of testicular fortitude,
00:05:40how did you take us through some of those stories?
00:05:44And when you decided to, you know, put on the whole...
00:05:47No, I'll tell you something.
00:05:47I could go on and just tell you, like, from the genesis of things, you know, but nevertheless,
00:05:56when I started, I started at Chagona's Crime Watch.
00:05:59And many years ago, I think I was in New York, and I saw a crime of kidnapping that just started and whatnot.
00:06:07And they said, if you see something, say something.
00:06:09And I came back with that.
00:06:10You see, in order for something to change in your life, you must always have a tag.
00:06:15There must always be something to create that kind of change, an event.
00:06:20And that was the event right there.
00:06:22And I came back, and I started to write little articles and whatnot, and asking this one to print my article,
00:06:29asking people calling people from The Guardian, The Express Newsday.
00:06:32But remember, I was unknown.
00:06:33I was unknown.
00:06:34And then eventually, Wind TV called me.
00:06:37But I'll tell you something.
00:06:38What was very defining in my career, and it started things, is that when I realized it already had an Oprah Winfrey,
00:06:45it already had a Larry King, it already had persons out there, anchors out there.
00:06:52And that is our problem.
00:06:53We like to copy people.
00:06:56It never had someone like you.
00:06:57It never had someone like you.
00:06:59It never had someone like you.
00:07:01And you must be able to create your personality and create a character.
00:07:06And that is what I did.
00:07:07It takes b**** to do that.
00:07:09Well, I don't know about the b****.
00:07:11I don't know about the b****.
00:07:13Courage, you take courage.
00:07:14But I want to use the word courage, right?
00:07:17I would agree.
00:07:18I want to use the word courage.
00:07:19I would agree.
00:07:20Testicular fortitude.
00:07:21Right.
00:07:21I'm going to tell you something.
00:07:22Cajonis.
00:07:23Yeah.
00:07:23And just to make sure that you can be yourself.
00:07:27And that is what I have done.
00:07:28I have reinvented myself.
00:07:30Right.
00:07:31I always reinvent myself.
00:07:33I always, always know that people get bored.
00:07:37And you must understand the way people look at things.
00:07:40And people don't want to hear normal questions.
00:07:42I watch in a program.
00:07:44You're just asking me questions.
00:07:45It's a normal question.
00:07:47You ask questions to the person what the viewer would like to hear.
00:07:52Things that everybody wouldn't ask.
00:07:55And that is how I started.
00:07:56I remember going to Barnes & Noble and buying a book.
00:08:01Everybody knows Barnes & Noble, the bookstore.
00:08:03The bookstore.
00:08:04And how to interview people and how to be, you know, and get ready for TV and all kind
00:08:10of thing.
00:08:11I started to read this book.
00:08:12I said, well, wait.
00:08:12Nah.
00:08:13Mm-mm-mm.
00:08:14Mm-mm-mm.
00:08:15That ain't me.
00:08:16That ain't me.
00:08:16And I put on that book and I said, you know what?
00:08:18I'm going to ask questions nobody will ask.
00:08:20Right.
00:08:20And that's it.
00:08:21And the rest is history.
00:08:23But I will show you something.
00:08:24Nobody would ask the question, but everybody want to know the answers.
00:08:26Yeah, and I'll tell you something.
00:08:28I'll tell you something.
00:08:28You just have to know what you want.
00:08:31Just know what you want.
00:08:32And don't limit yourself.
00:08:33People like to limit yourself and say, nah, boy.
00:08:35Let me tell you something.
00:08:38Nothing here takes me by surprise in my life.
00:08:40Nothing.
00:08:41Because it started from in here.
00:08:42Everything that manifests outside started from in here.
00:08:46Anything that is holding you back in your life is within here.
00:08:49Your mind, your thoughts are what hold you back in your life.
00:08:53When you started to look big, dream big, big things happen.
00:08:56There's an energy.
00:08:57And I love what he said.
00:08:58And he knows that as a man who understands burial pattern and understands people's personality.
00:09:02They will tell you it all happens in here.
00:09:05And from that day, I started to tell myself, I will be that they wouldn't be able to after me.
00:09:11They wouldn't be able to talk.
00:09:12Nobody will be able to come close to me in my arena.
00:09:15And so said, so done.
00:09:17But I could never be like you.
00:09:20You have a great show.
00:09:21You understand?
00:09:22I look at your show.
00:09:23But that is you.
00:09:25But I can't be you.
00:09:27So that's why on your platform, you have to be the best.
00:09:30That nobody can have a better talk show than you.
00:09:33I think, you see, when he's saying you should be you, I think you should look at the camera and tell the nation that.
00:09:38Because many times, especially from a lot of men, what I hear is fear.
00:09:42Okay.
00:09:42Many men are afraid to just be themselves.
00:09:46Okay.
00:09:46So, director, look at this.
00:09:48Yeah.
00:09:48Tell him.
00:09:49This one here.
00:09:49Okay, director, look at this camera.
00:09:51Okay.
00:09:51This is camera one.
00:09:53Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:09:53This camera here.
00:09:54I realize you cannot put me in my place now.
00:09:56Okay, director, look at this camera here.
00:09:57Well, you know, don't ever limit yourself and, um, right?
00:10:03That is just good in our rules.
00:10:05Don't limit yourself and think big and look at your life and just look where you are.
00:10:11Once you have a vision and it's so true, you see what a vision, once you have a vision, you could be anything in your life, you know?
00:10:17A vision creates that energy.
00:10:19I believe in that energy, you know?
00:10:21That's why I'm very cautious who I hang out with.
00:10:23I'm real cautious.
00:10:24I do have friends, you know?
00:10:25I look like I have plenty of friends.
00:10:27No, I do have friends.
00:10:27I have about three or four.
00:10:28Let's say about five.
00:10:29No, you do look like you have plenty of friends.
00:10:31No, I do have plenty of friends.
00:10:31I'm a very lonely person.
00:10:32No, I can tell you I'm lonely.
00:10:34Like how you could just go meet some guys in a bar, go for drinks?
00:10:37No, I do have that kind of friend.
00:10:39I have very few friends that call, go by them, have a drink, we might meet up for lunch, and that's it.
00:10:43And I love it like that.
00:10:44I love it like that.
00:10:46I just like, I love it like that.
00:10:49Are you lonely and you like something?
00:10:50And scarcity creates value.
00:10:53Do you ever make yourself too common?
00:10:55Exactly.
00:10:55I agree with that.
00:10:56But you know, there are a lot of people as well that, you know, you could be lonely in a room full of people.
00:11:00No, we all have our moments.
00:11:02As a public person, you've been a public person, you've been a public person, you've been a public person.
00:11:07People like us, we lost the race before we even tried enough.
00:11:12Because let me tell you, like, okay, society will expect better from us.
00:11:18First thing I say, he should have known better.
00:11:21You should have known better.
00:11:22You should have known better.
00:11:23But nobody wants to hear our side of this story, you know.
00:11:26Right?
00:11:26And you see, that's where I'm coming from with the courage because you're saying, we lost the race before we run it.
00:11:32But it depends on what race you're running.
00:11:34And sometimes, Robert and I have a little back and forth because sometimes he say, well, you can't do certain things because people will take it a certain way.
00:11:42But if you're doing that, what you're doing is you're suppressing yourself.
00:11:46Right?
00:11:47And then that's why men just die young.
00:11:49Because you're suppressing yourself.
00:11:51And every time you suppress yourself, you send a stress signal to your nervous system.
00:11:55So, and that's why we're talking about versatility.
00:11:58Because as people grow, as human beings be in dynamic, as the society change, they have to be able to adapt.
00:12:06They have to be able to be versatile.
00:12:07Else you will lose.
00:12:08Exactly.
00:12:09But versatility come with, and we're going back to fear.
00:12:12Because to become something new, we don't want to have to deal with the scrutiny of others.
00:12:17Right?
00:12:18Like me picking up doing rugs.
00:12:20That could have easily been a secret that I wouldn't have to share with others because somebody might think that's a little bit feminine.
00:12:29Right?
00:12:29So, it took me a while to be like, you know what?
00:12:32This is an art form that I actually love and I could experience it and share it with everyone else.
00:12:36Right?
00:12:37So, I will go to the question of, you go into some spaces that I wouldn't even drive.
00:12:43Right?
00:12:43How do you manage your fear response in those type of situations?
00:12:51I'm very concerned.
00:12:52I'm concerned about my safety.
00:12:55But after a while being so seasoned in this dance, I'm seasoned.
00:12:57Believe me, I am seasoned.
00:12:59I am seasoned.
00:13:00I have another side of me.
00:13:03That I can really go for people when I'm going, like, catch people.
00:13:07I can really get into the mind of a criminal.
00:13:09Like, literally get into the mind and think like them.
00:13:12And think where they will throw a body.
00:13:14Think where they will hide their gun.
00:13:15It's unbelievable.
00:13:16I can arm.
00:13:17Should people be worried about the fact that they could do that?
00:13:19No.
00:13:20You see, when you tap into your authentic self, you're able to understand.
00:13:25It's a profile.
00:13:26That's what you can use.
00:13:27Profile someone well.
00:13:28Yeah.
00:13:29As opposed.
00:13:30You're able to understand people.
00:13:31It's when we lie to ourselves, then we don't understand other people.
00:13:35But if you be honest with yourself, a lot of times you could relate to a criminal.
00:13:39If somebody do murder, I'm not saying you will do it.
00:13:42But if you could understand why.
00:13:44If somebody's taking drugs, you mightn't do it.
00:13:46But if you're honest with yourself, most times you could understand why.
00:13:49Understand what they could do and that caused them to take that drug.
00:13:51And going back to you with respect to going into hostile areas.
00:13:54I'll use it, hostile areas.
00:13:56Not everybody wants to kill me.
00:13:58Not everybody wants to kill me because I might be all kind of thing.
00:14:04But I think I'm a good person.
00:14:06And I'm a person with integrity.
00:14:08And people trust me.
00:14:09I want to tell people trust me.
00:14:11And people have seen in the past where people who committed murder, people who did heinous crimes were given a chance to explain.
00:14:19And I tell you, I'm not going to bring police for you.
00:14:21But you have to surrender.
00:14:23And let me hear your side of the story.
00:14:24No, Mr. Allen, I didn't kill anybody.
00:14:26My friend killed the person.
00:14:27And he ran and I stood there.
00:14:29I said, okay, you'll tell the police when they come.
00:14:31So, people realize in all these communities that, nah, it's American trust here.
00:14:36Of course, they have the ones that.
00:14:37They come like an ombudsman.
00:14:38Yeah.
00:14:39Right, right.
00:14:41Of course, they have the ones who do business.
00:14:44And they just, you know, they just have it.
00:14:47And they don't care.
00:14:48But the majority.
00:14:50But nevertheless, when we go into hostile, of course, we have security.
00:14:52And we have this and we have that.
00:14:54But nevertheless, it's my job.
00:14:56And I love what I do.
00:14:58And it's all about justice.
00:14:59Because do you think that you're being versatile is being able to conform to the people who are around you?
00:15:05So, in other words, in a particular space.
00:15:08I can be all things to anybody.
00:15:09I understand the grong.
00:15:10And I understand the grong.
00:15:12And I understand the roof.
00:15:14And I came from the grong.
00:15:15And I always tell people, I came from the grong.
00:15:17I understand the grong more than anybody.
00:15:19Because I came from a very humble beginning.
00:15:21And I'll say it on every.
00:15:22You know, there are people in life, right?
00:15:24Don't like to say where they came from.
00:15:26When they reach a certain level, they don't like to talk about where they came from.
00:15:30You're saying, well, you know, I come from a little small house.
00:15:33And boy, we were never hungry.
00:15:35But, you know, it was humble beginnings.
00:15:37You know, we bake a little bread on Saturday.
00:15:40It's just humble people.
00:15:41But I don't know what it is to be hungry.
00:15:43There are people who don't like to talk about that.
00:15:45They like to show people the surface.
00:15:46But I am never ashamed of where I came from.
00:15:50So that is why I'm so connected.
00:15:51I'm very connected to the grong.
00:15:53As I tell people, I'm the commissioner for the grong.
00:15:56I am the commissioner for the grong.
00:15:57And I can tell you that plainly.
00:15:59I am the commissioner for the grong.
00:16:01The grong will always come back to me.
00:16:03And what I would say wise.
00:16:04And what I noticed from even the phenomenon of when Christmas list came and went into the communities.
00:16:11And even, I can't remember his name, he used to do these skits with a lady, a guy with a bedak.
00:16:20His name, Escaperman now, right?
00:16:22He used to go into communities.
00:16:23What you're doing differently, right, is listening.
00:16:28Listening, yes.
00:16:29Because we're talking about versatility.
00:16:31Versatility means you're not doing the same thing all the time.
00:16:34So if the authorities was doing one thing and they're still trying to do the same thing all the time.
00:16:39If other people who wanted to try to help the community or the government or whoever ministry and national security.
00:16:46If you're doing the same matters all the time and it's not working.
00:16:49Then they have people who come in doing new things with versatility and getting through.
00:16:55So we need to be versatile and fluid even in the conversation.
00:17:00I know we need to go to the break.
00:17:01But I really want to get to an understanding before we go into the other segment, Ian.
00:17:06That, as you said, you came from humble beginnings.
00:17:10But in that, you didn't know that you would be Ian Allen now.
00:17:14You didn't know that you'd be a nationally known and renowned person.
00:17:18I find you reggastin' me up here, reggastin' me up here.
00:17:21As you do me, as you do me.
00:17:23Reggastin' me up here, boy.
00:17:24As you do me from years now, right?
00:17:26Reggastin' me up, boy.
00:17:27Gastin' me up here, boy.
00:17:27Gastin' me up here, boy.
00:17:27The man of his own show.
00:17:29I have a big time studio about gastin' me up, you know.
00:17:31So, yeah, but just how did you make, in terms of that, bridge that gap between that moment
00:17:39to do what you're doing now and to...
00:17:41I believe in something, yeah?
00:17:43I believe in something.
00:17:44You see, destiny.
00:17:46I believe in destiny.
00:17:47Yeah, but you didn't always feel that way.
00:17:49But I had my down times when I felt that it's not a destiny.
00:17:52I think that it's all over for me.
00:17:54But when you're...
00:17:55I believe in destiny.
00:17:57But let me tell you something.
00:17:58It all goes back in you, in you, what you have inside.
00:18:02That I believe in everyone that is sitting here, there's a goldmine inside of you.
00:18:07And it's for you to discover that goldmine.
00:18:09And even though in my darkest time, I knew within me that there was something ahead of me.
00:18:15That something's going to take me and make me great.
00:18:18I can't see it.
00:18:18It's like the air I breathe.
00:18:20I can't show you the air.
00:18:22I can't really pinpoint where the air is coming from.
00:18:25But I can feel it because I'm breathing.
00:18:28Do you understand?
00:18:30I could have felt it inside that no matter what I went through, no matter what challenges,
00:18:33whoever is watching this program right now might be going through.
00:18:38The very idea that you are still alive and the very idea that a greater person, a greater force woke you up this morning.
00:18:48There's still hope.
00:18:49All is not over.
00:18:50And all that I went through, and I've really gone through things in my life.
00:18:54Like even when I got to media, arrested and all the different challenges, and I was able to weather that storm.
00:19:00And I would always tell you, and I even said it in an interview in the past, that no bad breeze is blowing up.
00:19:06It's how you manage it.
00:19:08Even though you might be drunk and you have to know how to tread that water, you'll always face storms in your life.
00:19:15But storms will take you to another level.
00:19:17And once you are prepared for another level, boy, nothing can keep you back.
00:19:21Like when you look at, and I'm fascinated by people who get, when they are older, that they, you know, they are so relevant.
00:19:31They are under the game.
00:19:33Like these U.S. politicians, you have Joe Biden, you have Nancy Pelosi, you have Trump.
00:19:39Look at their age.
00:19:41Just look at their age.
00:19:42In Trinidad, man, you're at the table.
00:19:45After 50, after 60, you have what's going on.
00:19:48And you carry to school your grandchildren, you go and make some gardening in the back, your tummy starts to get big, you playing dominoes in the night.
00:19:56No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:19:59Every single day that I live, I will always make sure my image is on top.
00:20:11That I'm not just going to settle in my life.
00:20:14There are people who settle.
00:20:15There are men who settle in their life.
00:20:17Men out there, et cetera.
00:20:19You're the head, not the tail.
00:20:21We take a short break.
00:20:22We'll come back and hear a lot more about versatility.
00:20:25I was going to say Ian Allen and versatility, but it's really versatility is the topic.
00:20:30And we have Ian Allen in it.
00:20:41Hi, this is Ian Allen.
00:20:42And welcome to manhood.
00:20:44And our topic today is versatility.
00:20:46And as you can see, we are very distinguished persons among us today.
00:20:51I'm not the host.
00:20:52I'm not the host.
00:20:53Even though I'm trying to take over the guy program.
00:20:55I'm realizing I'm trying to take over the show.
00:21:00I'm not taking over the show.
00:21:01Maybe I'm going to have that persona, but I'm not taking over the show.
00:21:04But while we were on that break there, we were just discussing about how crime and criminals
00:21:11evolve.
00:21:12Evolve.
00:21:14And I tell you something.
00:21:16And a criminal, okay, let's say from 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, all through the pandemic,
00:21:27the mindset of people has changed.
00:21:29From then to now, the culture has changed.
00:21:33In what way?
00:21:33As we say in Trinidad, people are a real belly.
00:21:40Yeah.
00:21:40The mindset has changed.
00:21:42Criminals, persons who break the law, they're more brazen now.
00:21:45Compare to 2014.
00:21:47I think after that pandemic, it's like after 1990, the mindset of, but you know, we used
00:21:54to say 1990.
00:21:55Nah.
00:21:55After that pandemic, I don't know what went on into the minds of people.
00:22:00Is it when they feel like a getaway with it?
00:22:02Yes.
00:22:02Yes.
00:22:03And then after, remember, we didn't have all the social media, social media, all these
00:22:08different platforms and whatnot.
00:22:09All throughout that 13, 14, 15, 16, wasn't, we didn't have so much TikTok and all these
00:22:16things.
00:22:17But the mindset of people, the criminals, when you're going after them, nah, they're different.
00:22:22They are people who wire up differently.
00:22:26That you will never put nothing past them.
00:22:28They just wire up.
00:22:28And it's like a culture.
00:22:30It's like a culture.
00:22:31It's like a culture.
00:22:33And it's like, okay, I cannot compare.
00:22:37Okay.
00:22:38Let's say you cannot compare a 17-year-old in your times and a 17-year-old in this time.
00:22:46And just as criminals, you can't compare.
00:22:49It's a different culture.
00:22:50The culture has changed.
00:22:51Everything has evolved.
00:22:53And children will speak back to you now when they talk back to their father and say, well,
00:22:58that is not so.
00:22:59You think, you already think you got to answer back to your parents?
00:23:01You can't even raise your head.
00:23:03You don't even do that.
00:23:04Why are they speaking to you?
00:23:06You're just watching the ground.
00:23:07I tell you, you measure the ground like that.
00:23:09You do not.
00:23:09But children in this generation will come back and raise that question about why.
00:23:14Why we can't go?
00:23:16I don't like that shirt.
00:23:17I don't like this bed.
00:23:18Don't buy this thing for me.
00:23:18Don't buy that for me.
00:23:19People are different now.
00:23:20And they're the same.
00:23:21They're criminals.
00:23:21But Ian, you know, using that analogy about a child asking that, nothing's wrong, as far
00:23:28as I'm concerned, even with my 8-year-old, nothing's wrong in them questioning more.
00:23:31Because you find the Gen Zs, the Gen Alphas doing that more.
00:23:34They're asking more about purpose and what is happening in this time where, you know,
00:23:38before we were just trained like, children should be seen and not heard, right?
00:23:42Now, do you think then that it's, is it in the absence of maybe capital punishment,
00:23:47licks in school, things that we were brought up?
00:23:49Because what is, no, I'm just saying, you know, it's been seen as abuse now because
00:23:52of social media and all the other discussions.
00:23:54But are we now creating more sociopaths?
00:23:56But still, but let me tell you something.
00:23:59All that now, again, the generation was different.
00:24:02We had discipline.
00:24:03We had discipline.
00:24:04But I don't say no in this generation here, this time here, that we had to slap up about
00:24:08what you want to go into the room.
00:24:09I have never, I have a son.
00:24:10I wouldn't beat up my son.
00:24:12I wouldn't slap up.
00:24:13I wouldn't do that.
00:24:13You talk to them.
00:24:14I wouldn't beat up my dog.
00:24:15I wouldn't even do that.
00:24:16What does that count for the declining discipline?
00:24:19It starts from home.
00:24:21Children live what they see.
00:24:23Children live what they see.
00:24:24And if, if you as a parent, now let me tell you something here.
00:24:27They say that you make children, but you don't make them mine.
00:24:30I don't believe that.
00:24:31To an extent, and a great extent, a parent, a parent, a parent could groom a child mine.
00:24:37You could groom.
00:24:38Children live what they see.
00:24:39If they see their father, he's not a con man, and they see their father, they see their
00:24:43father trying, they see their father going to work.
00:24:46On a Friday, he bringing some barbecue, he bringing food for them on Friday night, after
00:24:49he gets his pay on Saturday.
00:24:51They look at that.
00:24:51Children look at that.
00:24:52They look at, they look at how their father, my father's a decent man.
00:24:55Police are coming.
00:24:56Children live what they see.
00:24:58They're cursing for their parents.
00:24:59Somebody, I'm on social media, I'm watching social media, what it was.
00:25:02And you have these grandmothers and big, I mean, persons who have advanced in age using,
00:25:08I mean, obscene language with their children.
00:25:10I don't know.
00:25:11I never, I, listen, I never, never, I have never heard my mother curse.
00:25:16Yeah.
00:25:17I have never heard my mother curse.
00:25:19I never heard my mother use the F word or the M word.
00:25:21I never, I swear to God.
00:25:23So then it's not only the young generation changes, the older generation changes.
00:25:28Children cursing and talking to the family, the parents.
00:25:30Okay, if people cursing and talking with their friends and things and, you know, guys lying
00:25:34and everything, but people, children cursing, making their mother cursing and they cursing
00:25:38and I don't know the conversation.
00:25:39So we're waiting for that part now, even the older generation.
00:25:42Maybe there is a relationship, but maybe some people never came from that.
00:25:45I never came from that.
00:25:47I never came from that.
00:25:48I never came from that.
00:25:49The moral, the moral fabric of society is seemingly no longer there and a lot of kids
00:25:54and the next generation are being guided a lot by social media.
00:25:58Right.
00:25:58And what they're seeing.
00:25:59That's a different now.
00:26:00That is the thing.
00:26:01They can't say guided from social media because they're looking at people.
00:26:05Social media is not a thing that exists in a vacuum.
00:26:08We use social media.
00:26:10It's really just, they are now, they have the availability to see other people outside
00:26:15of their immediate space.
00:26:17And just to answer your question really quickly, I think it's a lack of trust that's happening
00:26:21overall.
00:26:23The lack of trust is what's leading to parents training their children to not trust.
00:26:29And the lack of trust is why you would have the disrespect that is happening, why things
00:26:34will get more, the criminals will get more brazen.
00:26:36And that just is a trickle-down effect that I believe is happening now.
00:26:41But you're also seeing more.
00:26:42When you're looking at social media, you're seeing all what the haves have.
00:26:45And you are the have-nots.
00:26:48And you want that same thing because it's natural.
00:26:50You know, you want a Porsche.
00:26:52You know, a man might want a Prado.
00:26:55Or you might want, you know, just simple things.
00:26:57Like it might even be a boxer KFC.
00:26:59But it depends on your environment.
00:27:00That mightn't be forthcoming to you any time soon.
00:27:04And you may, in certain cases, you might be seeing your parent or your parent, in this
00:27:08case, working very hard and just still not being able to provide that.
00:27:13And again, you see in the haves, getting it, may not understand how they got it.
00:27:19And you want to get to that too.
00:27:20And therefore, you now find a way that's simpler to bridge the gap, to get it.
00:27:26And someone in your circle is thinking out of the box.
00:27:29They're thinking out of the box.
00:27:30They're people who are thinking out of the box.
00:27:31But we might be saying things, you know, painting a different picture.
00:27:36But still, they're people in this time, in this time.
00:27:41Young people who are doing exceptionally well, who are working hard, studying to become a
00:27:45doctor, a lawyer.
00:27:47And I always tell people, not everybody's son can become a doctor and lawyer.
00:27:50But that does not say, as a father, as a father, you will look down.
00:27:54And the worst thing a father, parents could ever do is to compare the children with the
00:27:58neighbor or compare the children to our aunt.
00:27:59My aunt children.
00:28:00That is what culture is.
00:28:01That is true.
00:28:02That is true.
00:28:02That is true.
00:28:02That is true.
00:28:02That is true.
00:28:02That is true.
00:28:02That is true.
00:28:03That is true.
00:28:03That is true.
00:28:03That is true.
00:28:03That is true.
00:28:03That is true.
00:28:03Why he wasn't like this one in America?
00:28:05Why he wasn't like this?
00:28:06Look how my sister's children are.
00:28:08They are so bright and intelligent.
00:28:10And you might even compare them to a sibling.
00:28:12You might say, why you can't be more like your brother?
00:28:13Yeah.
00:28:14And it's demoralized.
00:28:15It's demoralized.
00:28:15That's why don't compare.
00:28:16Don't compare.
00:28:17Everybody has a different, as I was telling Israel, my son, I said, Israel, what do you
00:28:22really want to do?
00:28:23He said, I don't know as yet.
00:28:26I said, you like television?
00:28:28Yeah, I like television.
00:28:29So I said, you want a camera?
00:28:31I said, you want to become a cameraman?
00:28:33He said, yeah, that's sound good.
00:28:34I'm like, oh, there's no money.
00:28:36There's no money.
00:28:37Don't say that.
00:28:39There's no money.
00:28:40Oh, God.
00:28:40Oh, God.
00:28:41There's no money.
00:28:41But, okay.
00:28:42With the camera.
00:28:43With the camera, man.
00:28:43Yeah, but then again.
00:28:44With the camera, man.
00:28:44But then again.
00:28:45He will realize that.
00:28:47There's no money on your show.
00:28:49He might have.
00:28:49Okay, he might have his own show one day.
00:28:51I will send him away.
00:28:52I tell him, okay, well, go away.
00:28:53Go away and learn.
00:28:54Go to production school.
00:28:56Go to television school.
00:28:58You know?
00:29:00You need to channel children who have their own ambition.
00:29:03And the worst thing.
00:29:04The worst thing a parent could ever do is to encroach on a child's ambition.
00:29:08And come and say, well, I want you to become a dad.
00:29:10There are a lot of children who are very suicidal because of that.
00:29:14They're trying to please their mother and father.
00:29:16I know people who went away to do medicine.
00:29:18And had to come back here.
00:29:19They're trying to get in the first break down.
00:29:20Because they're just a cutout for it.
00:29:22Not everybody cut out for that.
00:29:24But they are great.
00:29:24The passion is in this.
00:29:25The passion is in this.
00:29:26You can be the best musician.
00:29:28You can be the best mechanic.
00:29:29Well, if you're like mechanical, let's buy all the advanced tools.
00:29:32And all the electric things, the test vehicles.
00:29:35You know?
00:29:36Now, you see, Ian, what you're saying there, even to think that way, you need versatility.
00:29:40And because a lot of times we come from, and this is my opinion, we come from a colonial society.
00:29:49And a colonial in itself is a very myopic view.
00:29:52So the older generation, not the younger generation, the older generation still trying to squeeze.
00:29:58And sometimes I don't think it's even purposeful at times.
00:30:01And it's just what you know.
00:30:02And the system that was built is a...
00:30:05Or the experience, your past experience, your childhood.
00:30:07So you kind of pass it down.
00:30:09Let me say that, you know, my neighbor the other day was asking me, say, how come every time a plumber come around or somebody doing woodworking or masonry, you're always outside.
00:30:21And staying with them the entire time.
00:30:23I say, because I'm fascinated by it.
00:30:25I actually tell him, I said, why did I, apart from doing what I'm doing, because I think what I'm doing gives purpose.
00:30:31It's not just to me, but, you know, I think I'm doing some sort of service nationally.
00:30:38But I would have loved to have done a trade and be a carpenter, you know, to build.
00:30:43For me to be home and build a cupboard, I would not, not just the amount of money it costs to do that, the money you make.
00:30:49But I think it's, I think it's cool to be able to do a trade.
00:30:53That is what I said.
00:30:54And everybody, there is a goldmine.
00:30:55And some people, goldmine can be becoming a mechanic, becoming a joiner.
00:31:00There's a joiner, right?
00:31:02There's somebody who's doing cupboards and whatnot.
00:31:04And there are people who could do amazing work.
00:31:06And you're like, okay, I on TV.
00:31:09You're mine.
00:31:10You're a rug.
00:31:11You're the host.
00:31:12You watch your own show.
00:31:14But there are people, okay, in every field, there's greatness.
00:31:18You're great.
00:31:18You're great.
00:31:19You're great.
00:31:19And it's like, a guy coming to do a ceiling or doing woodwork by me.
00:31:23And I'm like, wow.
00:31:25You might think, okay, but you might have to cut this shit here.
00:31:27You might have to do that here.
00:31:29He said, no, we have to do this.
00:31:30And turn this in the way.
00:31:31But there are people, there's some amazing.
00:31:33But that is his field.
00:31:34And that is genius.
00:31:35That is genius.
00:31:36That people can just do that.
00:31:37He's commissioner of pipe.
00:31:38And commissioner of, I don't want to say what.
00:31:41No matter who you are.
00:31:41No matter who you are.
00:31:42You still have to go by your mechanic.
00:31:44And he might come up with that.
00:31:44Why are you sober?
00:31:45What pipe are you talking about?
00:31:46Where is that?
00:31:47Where is that?
00:31:47Where is that?
00:31:48I didn't say anything.
00:31:50Where is that?
00:31:50I just laugh.
00:31:51I just laugh.
00:31:52I said the man is commissioner of pipe or commissioner of wood.
00:31:54So he's commissioner of pipe?
00:31:55He, in his mind.
00:31:58He didn't jump up.
00:31:59He didn't jump up.
00:31:59He didn't jump up.
00:31:59He didn't jump up.
00:32:00No.
00:32:01Die them little, die them little, little thing they have.
00:32:04What was that?
00:32:05What was that one?
00:32:05What was that one?
00:32:05You still include the realest mind.
00:32:07You're a mind person.
00:32:08What do you think about his mind?
00:32:10What do you think about his mind?
00:32:11Yeah, his mind.
00:32:12He's a versatile guy.
00:32:13He's a versatile guy.
00:32:14Yeah, he's a versatile guy.
00:32:16And that's what I appreciate.
00:32:17You see, especially men who have the courage to be themselves.
00:32:21Yeah.
00:32:21Because even in times when I have my weakness and I try to conform to, right?
00:32:27And I see somebody be versatile.
00:32:30Right.
00:32:30That has given me the confidence.
00:32:32And you're supposed to say, that man, do it, you know?
00:32:34But persons who are versatile, we all have our depressive moments.
00:32:37Yeah, remember that.
00:32:37Yeah, you feel very depressed.
00:32:38Sometimes we feel very, I have had dark moments in my life that, you know, I thought that
00:32:43that was it for me, you know?
00:32:44I have had dark moments mentally, mentally, mentally, mentally.
00:32:50I have had times that, I feel that time I felt suicidal.
00:32:54Like I'd be real honest, like suicidal, you know?
00:32:57Oh, you came out a bit.
00:33:02You've not been there.
00:33:03Yeah, like things that, when I went through things that, I thought that the whole world
00:33:07was falling on me, and I just, I didn't know about that.
00:33:11If you think about it, you see you're putting me in a zone, yeah?
00:33:14You come with your mind thing.
00:33:15You come with your mind thing.
00:33:16You're trying to put me in a zone.
00:33:17You're putting me in a zone.
00:33:19That's what manhood is about.
00:33:20Yeah, well, manhood, what's what?
00:33:22You put me in a zone.
00:33:23And there are times that I felt in 2016 was one of the darkest moments in my life.
00:33:30And I had so many challenges, and I wasn't working on anything.
00:33:35I followed with the company and this and that, and everything was just coming down.
00:33:40And don't ever, ever, ever in your life laugh or make fun of people who commit suicide
00:33:48or attempt to commit suicide.
00:33:51The best of us can reach that point, very depressing.
00:33:56There are times you feel very dumb, and you feel that there's no hope.
00:33:59And it don't matter how you try to hype up yourself.
00:34:01You just, this whole feeling has saturated you.
00:34:06You have a support system, as in, whether it is your family, your parents,
00:34:11you have people who you could lean on.
00:34:16I have, boy, sometimes, family is not all now.
00:34:18I have more, I feel I have more friends that do more for me.
00:34:22Sad to say.
00:34:23Okay, but you have a support system.
00:34:25Yeah, I have, I have, now I have support.
00:34:28But then again, you must understand.
00:34:31There are people who might just be with you, like, you know, as they say,
00:34:34the mass, that, I don't want to bring religion,
00:34:37but it's something that you must always understand.
00:34:40There are people that will follow you for fish and bread, you know.
00:34:43And follow you what they could get from you.
00:34:46Just like they follow the Lord.
00:34:48There are people who just, and he said that,
00:34:49people follow me just because of fish and bread,
00:34:52because I could feed the multitude.
00:34:54But not people following you because of the cause of who you are.
00:34:58And the most treacherous persons you'll ever meet in life is human beings, yeah.
00:35:01The same person who chair you today,
00:35:03you do something tomorrow, and they will say jail him or charge him.
00:35:06Correct.
00:35:06And you have to understand.
00:35:07I have conditioned my mind like that now.
00:35:10And years I have done that.
00:35:11That I'm not moved by when you say, oh, good, I love you and all.
00:35:13I love this show.
00:35:14Oh, my God, I can't sleep in the night.
00:35:15My mother love it.
00:35:16You can't gas me up.
00:35:18Because I understand how human beings are.
00:35:21And even that way you're saying,
00:35:22that understanding that is being part of being versatile.
00:35:27Because, and I would say especially for men,
00:35:29what I hear from a lot of men is a kind of Disney kind of look at the world.
00:35:35Like, people have to love me for me.
00:35:37I want people to love me for me.
00:35:38Yes, we might want all that.
00:35:40But that may not be possible at all.
00:35:42You being yourself might actually bring hate towards you.
00:35:46You being your authentic self would bring people who think you're supposed to be a certain way,
00:35:50you're supposed to be a certain way.
00:35:51But because you're not conforming to what they want.
00:35:55And people judge us.
00:35:56They're quick to, and I will tell us something.
00:35:57I don't want to go, because I know we ought to go to a break.
00:36:01But I don't want to get out of the fact that you talk about gassing up
00:36:06and you talk about Johansson getting into a zone, right?
00:36:08But manhood, Ian, is about all of us being better as brothers.
00:36:13And gassing up is not part of, we get with kicks,
00:36:17we talk some serious things on the show.
00:36:19But the bottom line is we want to make sure that everybody always lives in a better place.
00:36:25And I recognize something in you just now that I myself do.
00:36:29And I do it whether it be in public speaking or not,
00:36:31where you went into a zone of,
00:36:34you went into a zone of, not repentance, of contemplation.
00:36:45And in what you've become accustomed to is you snapped out of it
00:36:51and went back into the persona that is Ian Allen.
00:36:54That is so true.
00:36:54I want you to come back out of that.
00:36:56Because that's what this show is about.
00:36:58I want you to come back into where that zone is.
00:37:02Give me a rock till I don't guess.
00:37:03And let's talk about that before we go to the break.
00:37:06Because everybody sees Ian Allen.
00:37:10Everybody knows that you put on the character.
00:37:13I don't want to talk to the character right now.
00:37:17I want to talk to that place that is real to everybody
00:37:19because everybody's been there.
00:37:20When you said you've been in some dark moments,
00:37:24you were going somewhere.
00:37:25Yeah, I was going somewhere.
00:37:27And again, when you're popular and things happen to you,
00:37:32people look down at you.
00:37:34People, I like myself, I can't take that.
00:37:36I can't take that.
00:37:37I can't.
00:37:37I am very concerned about your views about me.
00:37:43Your views about me.
00:37:45You know, in my field, I don't care.
00:37:47I care.
00:37:47I have a side that I feel sad.
00:37:50I feel hurt.
00:37:52I feel I'm a regular person.
00:37:54I live a regular life.
00:37:56I don't live a life that, as a celebrity,
00:38:00I can't do that, but I don't.
00:38:02But I'm just like everybody else.
00:38:06I feel sad when I see things happen to people.
00:38:08I cry sometimes, like everybody else.
00:38:12I have a side that, but,
00:38:15so it's like we all go through that.
00:38:18We all go through that.
00:38:19We have our sides.
00:38:21And I'm only human.
00:38:22I make mistakes.
00:38:24And that is something.
00:38:26One, you have to remind.
00:38:28We don't have to.
00:38:29You should remind others,
00:38:31but also for us to remind ourselves.
00:38:34Because celebrity or not,
00:38:36all of us sometimes have this role or this character that we play.
00:38:39Whether it's father, brother, leader, sister, so forth and so on.
00:38:44And sometimes we don't want,
00:38:47we separate the role from who we are,
00:38:50but don't come back to who we are.
00:38:52I want to say something there before.
00:38:55This is it.
00:38:55You know, there's a saying,
00:38:56bad man, don't cry.
00:38:58And in what you do,
00:39:01is it that,
00:39:02bottom line is,
00:39:03as you just said,
00:39:04we are human.
00:39:04So no matter what you try.
00:39:06You have a soft side.
00:39:07Exactly.
00:39:08So no matter who you try to be and so on,
00:39:11we are still coming down to human and emotions.
00:39:13Yeah, I have.
00:39:14I'm only human.
00:39:15I am only human.
00:39:16And that's why when people don't like me,
00:39:19you mightn't like me.
00:39:20You might see me,
00:39:21and you might say,
00:39:21boy, Ian Allen,
00:39:22full of himself, boy.
00:39:24You might say,
00:39:24boy, Ian Allen,
00:39:25full of himself.
00:39:25Ian Allen is all about himself.
00:39:27No, I am not like that.
00:39:28If you don't know me,
00:39:33you wouldn't like me.
00:39:35But when you get to know me,
00:39:37boy, I tell you,
00:39:38watch me,
00:39:38you're like me.
00:39:39I'm telling you.
00:39:41I'm telling you.
00:39:43But that is my person.
00:39:44That's me by my regular guy.
00:39:47You feel like I could cry,
00:39:48I could go in a zone here, you know.
00:39:49Because I realize,
00:39:50you'll put him in that kind of zone.
00:39:51And I don't like that.
00:39:52You'll put him in that zone.
00:39:53No, but you should like it,
00:39:54because you're amongst men
00:39:55who are able to be,
00:39:56we express it on ourselves
00:39:57and being vulnerable.
00:39:58One thing, Ian,
00:39:59when we started this show,
00:40:00and I've said it,
00:40:01and Johansi knows it,
00:40:02Niall knows it,
00:40:03the whole point of this show
00:40:05is to be relatable.
00:40:06And if something comes up
00:40:07and it fits me,
00:40:09and you know,
00:40:10it falls in my garden,
00:40:12I don't be fake.
00:40:13I will say it.
00:40:14I've been caught out.
00:40:15You know,
00:40:15the wifey will ask me questions
00:40:16when I reach home.
00:40:17Oh, so, so, and so, and so happened.
00:40:18And other people who it relates with.
00:40:20Because I can't be,
00:40:22I can't be asking
00:40:23or trying to connect with the audience.
00:40:27I can't be trying to connect with people.
00:40:28I can't be trying to connect with people
00:40:29on this set
00:40:30and being fake.
00:40:31True.
00:40:31So, so the moment,
00:40:33the moment I'm on this show,
00:40:35it might not be the person
00:40:36you might meet outside,
00:40:37you know,
00:40:37because I might go back
00:40:38into Robert Dumas.
00:40:40Yeah, you'll go back
00:40:40into your character.
00:40:41Into my character.
00:40:42Correct.
00:40:42Yeah, you'll go back
00:40:43into your character.
00:40:43But on this show,
00:40:45this, this is who you get.
00:40:46Yeah.
00:40:46And if that means,
00:40:47like with my dad dying,
00:40:48if that means me breaking down
00:40:50and shedding a tear,
00:40:51hey.
00:40:51You know,
00:40:51I miss people in my life
00:40:52and same thing too.
00:40:53We are just,
00:40:53I'm just a normal guy.
00:40:55I'm just a,
00:40:56I'm just a regular.
00:40:56People go through things in life
00:40:58and people feel,
00:40:59people go through family,
00:41:00do your things.
00:41:01People go through things in life
00:41:02and you feel hurt.
00:41:04There are a lot of things
00:41:04I can say,
00:41:05don't I just get sad about.
00:41:06And I,
00:41:07I'm a person that,
00:41:08you might feel that,
00:41:10okay, I have this,
00:41:11I have that.
00:41:12But I'm a person
00:41:13who always think things
00:41:14I remember.
00:41:16There are people
00:41:16I miss in my life.
00:41:17I miss family.
00:41:18I miss my grandmother.
00:41:19I miss,
00:41:20I miss family.
00:41:20I love family,
00:41:21even though things might be all that.
00:41:23But I miss them.
00:41:24I miss them.
00:41:26And not because that,
00:41:28I should put on this,
00:41:29this attitude,
00:41:32this persona,
00:41:33like I don't care.
00:41:33I care.
00:41:34And it hurts when people
00:41:36treat you differently.
00:41:37It hurts.
00:41:39And you might also miss
00:41:40a time in your life too,
00:41:41like being younger
00:41:42or when you could have
00:41:42done certain things
00:41:43or chances that you might have missed.
00:41:45I wish I could have taken back
00:41:45that time in my life
00:41:46and yeah,
00:41:48I wish I would.
00:41:49You know what,
00:41:49I would tell you something.
00:41:50The best time,
00:41:51the best time I left the school,
00:41:52you know.
00:41:54In hindsight.
00:41:55That's why I would never,
00:41:56and I told my son,
00:41:58I'll never rob him of that.
00:42:00I'll never rob him of that
00:42:02and say,
00:42:02but don't do this.
00:42:02Don't just have to go to school.
00:42:04Do whatever you want.
00:42:04That's the way you like.
00:42:05Don't be nice in school.
00:42:07But school days
00:42:07are the best days.
00:42:09When you talk to some girl
00:42:10by the cafeteria,
00:42:11what's going on?
00:42:12You know,
00:42:13I mean,
00:42:13there's this out of it,
00:42:14you know.
00:42:15I tell her out of it.
00:42:16Nobody want me,
00:42:17you know.
00:42:17But I see many people laugh.
00:42:20Everybody remember me.
00:42:22And I'm a regular person.
00:42:23I'm never ashamed
00:42:24of where I came from.
00:42:25I didn't go to Presentation College.
00:42:27I went to the all-inclusive.
00:42:29Right?
00:42:31Hey,
00:42:32listen,
00:42:33listen,
00:42:33we had to take a break.
00:42:34We had to take a break on that
00:42:38when you went to the all-inclusive.
00:42:40You know,
00:42:40when we come back,
00:42:41Ian,
00:42:41you know,
00:42:41one thing before we,
00:42:43you know,
00:42:43as much as we share in here,
00:42:45I really want to know where,
00:42:46you know,
00:42:47if we get back into the character of Ian,
00:42:49where things like
00:42:49wetting after wetting comes from.
00:42:52But we're taking a break
00:42:52and we're coming back.
00:42:53So,
00:43:04we're on manhood.
00:43:05We're talking about versatility.
00:43:07Of course,
00:43:08the panel here,
00:43:10always,
00:43:10always,
00:43:10in the break,
00:43:12we had many discussions.
00:43:14But back to the question
00:43:15that Robert asked
00:43:15before the break,
00:43:16which was,
00:43:17the character that is
00:43:19Ian Allen.
00:43:20how you come up
00:43:21with these phrases
00:43:22and,
00:43:23you know,
00:43:24how you're able
00:43:24to just get these zingers
00:43:25to touch the public.
00:43:27And it's how you deliver it to him.
00:43:28It's just in my mind,
00:43:29it's somebody who would like
00:43:30to freestyle.
00:43:32It's just in you.
00:43:33If I,
00:43:33if,
00:43:34okay,
00:43:34if I see you on the road,
00:43:35Dumas,
00:43:35if I see you on the road,
00:43:36I pull a camera,
00:43:36I say,
00:43:37Dumas will be live.
00:43:39Dumas wouldn't step back.
00:43:40Would you step back?
00:43:41No.
00:43:41If I come out and tell you,
00:43:42I show you a rug
00:43:43with a photograph
00:43:44or someone in the U.S.
00:43:46I say,
00:43:46I want this exact rug.
00:43:47Would you get scared?
00:43:48I say,
00:43:48no,
00:43:49but no,
00:43:49you say,
00:43:50yeah,
00:43:50yeah,
00:43:50I believe what they did that.
00:43:51And it's just like you,
00:43:52you're into behavioral patterns.
00:43:54You can look at somebody,
00:43:55behavior,
00:43:55I can ask you off the record
00:43:56and off the bat
00:43:58and that's it,
00:43:58off the coffin.
00:43:59Everybody has a personality
00:44:00and that's my personality.
00:44:02It speaks about my personality
00:44:03that if I tell somebody,
00:44:05hey,
00:44:05wetting after,
00:44:06that is wetting,
00:44:06that is much more.
00:44:07Wetting after,
00:44:08wetting after.
00:44:08That's my personality.
00:44:10If I say relax,
00:44:10you relax,
00:44:11you need to relax yourself.
00:44:12That is my personality.
00:44:14You see me?
00:44:15And sometimes you see people
00:44:16trying to,
00:44:16you know,
00:44:17there are people who,
00:44:17okay,
00:44:18you see them on shows,
00:44:20you see them as a,
00:44:21maybe as a disc jockey
00:44:22or whatever.
00:44:23They try too hard.
00:44:24There are people
00:44:24who try too hard.
00:44:25You're trying,
00:44:26but that is not your personality.
00:44:27You need to be your personality.
00:44:29There are people
00:44:29who could commentate smoothly,
00:44:32but there are people
00:44:33who could see that
00:44:34that is not their personality.
00:44:35They're trying to make
00:44:36a funny joke,
00:44:37but you could see it
00:44:38in their face,
00:44:38you could see it
00:44:39in their expression that,
00:44:40no,
00:44:40that is not you.
00:44:41You need to take it
00:44:42down a little bit.
00:44:43Be yourself.
00:44:43And that is what I am.
00:44:44I am myself.
00:44:45They're fighting it.
00:44:46But we're still
00:44:46playing characters though,
00:44:49right?
00:44:49And playing a character
00:44:50which you want,
00:44:51which is generally
00:44:52bigger than yourself.
00:44:54Sometimes your personality
00:44:55don't match that.
00:44:57So if my personality
00:44:58don't match my character,
00:44:59that does not work.
00:45:00But you think so?
00:45:00But it could be.
00:45:02You could be an introvert
00:45:03who don't like talking
00:45:04to people,
00:45:04but you know that sometimes
00:45:05I have to come out
00:45:06and switch it on.
00:45:07I find this,
00:45:08this fellow with this mind
00:45:09thing when he watch
00:45:10you mean a kind of funny way,
00:45:11you know.
00:45:11You're trying to get
00:45:12my head real mad boy.
00:45:13Like serious,
00:45:14this may be just,
00:45:14what's that,
00:45:15this mind,
00:45:16what?
00:45:16Behavior change consultant.
00:45:18Behavior change consultant.
00:45:20Oh good.
00:45:20That's my therapist,
00:45:21by the way.
00:45:22Well,
00:45:22I'm going to get
00:45:23your number after
00:45:23because I finally
00:45:24can't watch,
00:45:25what's going on like this?
00:45:26Like, you know,
00:45:26like.
00:45:27Like you've not seen it
00:45:28in your soul.
00:45:29Like I don't want
00:45:31to watch on your left.
00:45:32Come across here
00:45:32and I don't want to watch.
00:45:33Get this man
00:45:34watch for like,
00:45:34you know,
00:45:34like.
00:45:35What do you see?
00:45:36What do you see?
00:45:36What do you see?
00:45:37What do you see?
00:45:37What do you see?
00:45:37No,
00:45:37you know,
00:45:38we've been friends
00:45:40for a while
00:45:40and did many shows
00:45:41and I told him
00:45:42at the start,
00:45:43that's why,
00:45:44you know,
00:45:44in many ways
00:45:44I didn't connect
00:45:45to them
00:45:45because I always feel
00:45:47that anything
00:45:47you say or do,
00:45:48he look,
00:45:49he have a kind of way,
00:45:50he used to do so
00:45:51and look at me,
00:45:52you know.
00:45:52But now,
00:45:53I pass that
00:45:54because like you said,
00:45:55when you get to know
00:45:56somebody,
00:45:56you know different
00:45:57and the same way
00:45:58he may be seeing me,
00:46:00he know I see in him too.
00:46:02I see past half his
00:46:03b**** too,
00:46:04you know,
00:46:04so,
00:46:05you know,
00:46:05when he want to wear
00:46:06a mustard jacket
00:46:06versus a plaid jacket,
00:46:08you know,
00:46:08things like that.
00:46:09But I want to come after.
00:46:11This pants tight.
00:46:11Yeah,
00:46:12yeah.
00:46:12Like he's soaked
00:46:13in a rum or something.
00:46:16Good work,
00:46:17good work,
00:46:17good work.
00:46:18No,
00:46:18but we just have him.
00:46:19A-12.
00:46:20A-12.
00:46:20What's that?
00:46:21A-12.
00:46:22But,
00:46:22you know,
00:46:22when you come up
00:46:23how do you come up
00:46:27with the,
00:46:28like what are some of
00:46:29maybe your four,
00:46:30you know,
00:46:31in a lighter moment
00:46:32in this discussion
00:46:32in terms of,
00:46:33because that's all
00:46:33part of versatility
00:46:34and sticking to what,
00:46:35you know,
00:46:35like,
00:46:37you know,
00:46:37you mightn't even
00:46:37realize you know it.
00:46:38So,
00:46:39for example,
00:46:39like Marshall may have,
00:46:41you know,
00:46:41somebody's,
00:46:42hey,
00:46:42and hi,
00:46:43ah,
00:46:43and Kes would have
00:46:44his gal,
00:46:45and different people.
00:46:46Everybody has their thing.
00:46:47Everybody has their thing.
00:46:47What would you say
00:46:49maybe your top three
00:46:50that whether you like it
00:46:51or not,
00:46:52that people
00:46:52know you for?
00:46:54People like the way
00:46:54I laugh,
00:46:56the way I laugh,
00:46:58phrases I would make,
00:47:01like wetting,
00:47:01relax yourself,
00:47:03cool yourself,
00:47:03people like my voice.
00:47:05Yeah.
00:47:06That is who I am.
00:47:07It's a reflection of my soul
00:47:09and what I have in my soul.
00:47:10That's why I'm a cool guy.
00:47:13But there's a side of me too
00:47:15and I'm not an introvert,
00:47:16I'm not an introvert,
00:47:17but you might think
00:47:19that I like the public.
00:47:21No.
00:47:22I avoid public.
00:47:24I avoid the crowd.
00:47:26I can't handle the crowd.
00:47:26If I give you a secret,
00:47:29you'll never be.
00:47:30I can speak.
00:47:31You can't.
00:47:31Listen to me.
00:47:32I will go on for hours
00:47:33and hours if we live.
00:47:34Once we are live here,
00:47:37watch me.
00:47:38I will go on for hours.
00:47:39I can do from here
00:47:40until tomorrow.
00:47:42Live.
00:47:42I don't care who
00:47:43in the world watching.
00:47:44I can go to the millions.
00:47:46Take off that camera
00:47:47and put me
00:47:48in the front of a wedding
00:47:49or a party to talk
00:47:50and I can't.
00:47:52And nobody knows that
00:47:54and I'm saying that today.
00:47:55Nobody knows that.
00:47:55And why is that?
00:47:56I don't know.
00:47:57I just don't know.
00:47:58Dumas, I don't know.
00:48:00Why?
00:48:00You are a man
00:48:01who don't behave.
00:48:02You think,
00:48:02what is this?
00:48:03Why?
00:48:03We need a little more conversation.
00:48:05Is it that you do?
00:48:05No, is it?
00:48:06Mother, pay for that
00:48:06or die free?
00:48:08No, Ian,
00:48:08is it that you're saying
00:48:09that live
00:48:10in front of camera
00:48:12you could do that
00:48:13but live
00:48:14in front of people?
00:48:15I can't.
00:48:15I can't.
00:48:16I don't know.
00:48:16Maybe I kind of
00:48:19just say
00:48:19hype up myself.
00:48:20Because I was now
00:48:23about to say
00:48:24that I am more
00:48:26comfortable like that.
00:48:27I am not comfortable
00:48:27like that.
00:48:28I can't tell you that.
00:48:28I can't tell you that.
00:48:29No, no, no, no.
00:48:29I can't tell you that.
00:48:30You will ask me.
00:48:31I say,
00:48:31the number of times
00:48:32I go to funerals,
00:48:33we start,
00:48:33you want to come
00:48:33and say something?
00:48:34No, no, no.
00:48:34I don't want to take
00:48:35nobody more, man.
00:48:36You want to come
00:48:36and say something?
00:48:36I don't want to take
00:48:37nobody.
00:48:37And I'm very particular
00:48:38going into weddings
00:48:39and funerals.
00:48:40I don't like to take
00:48:40the people more, man.
00:48:41I take out pictures.
00:48:42People like to take out pictures
00:48:43in weddings.
00:48:43Forget the bride,
00:48:45forget the groom,
00:48:46or you go to a funeral.
00:48:47I don't like that.
00:48:48I have respect.
00:48:49And that's why sometimes
00:48:50I wouldn't go to a funeral
00:48:51because I can't tell
00:48:52people bombarding me
00:48:53in the presence
00:48:54of people grieving.
00:48:55And I'm glad
00:48:56that you bring it up
00:48:57because even in the face
00:48:58of versatility,
00:48:59versatility is not
00:49:00a perfect thing.
00:49:01It had times
00:49:02when you really feel
00:49:04that difficulty.
00:49:06And sometimes
00:49:07we feel that
00:49:08sometimes even as men
00:49:09that we men
00:49:10are supposed to be
00:49:11always on top
00:49:12of everything.
00:49:13That we always
00:49:13have to stay strong.
00:49:14You don't have a moment
00:49:15when, oh God boy,
00:49:16I ain't sure what to do.
00:49:18I don't know what to do.
00:49:19I have plenty of men
00:49:20who are afraid
00:49:20to even say,
00:49:21I don't know, you know.
00:49:23Because they might look bad.
00:49:24They might look
00:49:25as strong as they're supposed
00:49:26to be or it might be
00:49:28in alignment
00:49:28with what their character
00:49:30supposed to be.
00:49:31You see a talk
00:49:32about strength there
00:49:33and I want to ask
00:49:34even on the panel
00:49:35and particularly to you, Ian.
00:49:37Many times people
00:49:38see us in these roles
00:49:39and they think,
00:49:40well, we have it all together
00:49:41and that you're strong
00:49:42and then, you know,
00:49:43you're the person
00:49:44you come to for support.
00:49:47But we ourselves,
00:49:49even as pillars
00:49:50or it depends
00:49:53on how you sit
00:49:54in your family,
00:49:54whether you're the patriarch
00:49:55or the person
00:49:56they look up to,
00:49:57sometimes you just want
00:49:58to be able to lean
00:49:59on a pillar.
00:50:01Have that moment
00:50:02of pause
00:50:02to take a breath.
00:50:03how does that
00:50:06work for you
00:50:07where you just want
00:50:08to shut it down?
00:50:09Not so much
00:50:09that you just don't want
00:50:10people to ask you
00:50:11for anything,
00:50:11but just where you need
00:50:13to gather your own strength
00:50:14and interwoven.
00:50:15And I can sit down
00:50:15by myself.
00:50:16Let me tell you something,
00:50:16you won't believe this.
00:50:19I can sit down
00:50:19in our room
00:50:20and watch television
00:50:21for the entire day
00:50:22and not come out.
00:50:24No phone,
00:50:25nothing on the air.
00:50:25That's where I'm relaxed
00:50:27and listen to music.
00:50:28I can understand that.
00:50:29And I like listening
00:50:29to retro music
00:50:30and play music by myself
00:50:31and pretend I'm
00:50:32this great DJ.
00:50:33You understand?
00:50:34Yeah, that's what I do.
00:50:35I'm telling you,
00:50:35I like to play,
00:50:36I'm a DJ
00:50:37and I play music
00:50:37and just get my own
00:50:39jokes by myself
00:50:40and laugh by myself.
00:50:41You're telling you?
00:50:43I understand that.
00:50:44And that is important
00:50:45and I gladly say it
00:50:46because sometimes,
00:50:48even I would say,
00:50:49sometimes things
00:50:50like video games,
00:50:51sometimes grown men,
00:50:53I would say grown men
00:50:54are demonized
00:50:54for wanting to play
00:50:55video games
00:50:56and I play black ops
00:50:57in the night
00:50:57and before I go to sleep
00:50:58I need to go in like that.
00:51:01And I've seen one o'clock.
00:51:03I've seen two o'clock.
00:51:05Yeah, but I cool in my head.
00:51:07I don't vex anymore.
00:51:08And why you think I don't,
00:51:08and I will tell you something again.
00:51:09You know why I don't look
00:51:10at series on Netflix?
00:51:12Why?
00:51:13I get hooked on it.
00:51:14Yeah, I'm the kind of person
00:51:15I'll watch it out.
00:51:17Yeah, that's why I don't.
00:51:18Binge watching as well.
00:51:19I just watch it
00:51:20and just like as I reach him
00:51:21I just,
00:51:22episode one.
00:51:23I've seen two o'clock
00:51:24and just one episode
00:51:25again.
00:51:25That is by design.
00:51:29It's called binge watching.
00:51:30It is designed
00:51:31to leave you at the end
00:51:32as a hook
00:51:33to watch the next one
00:51:34and watch the next one.
00:51:35I don't know
00:51:35because I take up my time.
00:51:36But I love doing that.
00:51:37I love doing that.
00:51:38It's good that you know yourself.
00:51:40Yeah.
00:51:40Right?
00:51:41But still do I'm answer though.
00:51:42Where's the answer?
00:51:44What is the question?
00:51:45That's what you do
00:51:45for relaxation
00:51:48and to gather your thoughts.
00:51:50I'm saying
00:51:50what do you do to get,
00:51:52where's your pillar?
00:51:53Where do you derive
00:51:54strength from
00:51:55or inspiration?
00:51:56God.
00:51:57Yeah.
00:51:57I came from a Christian community
00:51:59and I believe in God.
00:52:02Yeah.
00:52:02I might be the least
00:52:04of the kingdom right now.
00:52:05The least in the kingdom
00:52:06right now.
00:52:07When God said
00:52:08he came to save sinners,
00:52:10right next to a sinner
00:52:11he could have put my name.
00:52:12I'm the least
00:52:13in the kingdom right now
00:52:14but I believe in God.
00:52:15God doesn't save the ones
00:52:16that are saved already.
00:52:18So he's the sinners
00:52:19he comes for.
00:52:20That's a big line.
00:52:20I'll let it again.
00:52:21You can open my church.
00:52:22That's a big line for Robert.
00:52:23What?
00:52:24Robert.
00:52:25We can call you on a Sunday
00:52:26for a word of exhortation
00:52:28by the Robert.
00:52:29We can call you on a Sunday.
00:52:30Let me hear it again.
00:52:31Let me hear it again.
00:52:32Let me hear it again.
00:52:33You got the message.
00:52:34You got the message.
00:52:34Watch me.
00:52:35That's like
00:52:35woman don't want to lose, boy.
00:52:37Let me hear it again.
00:52:37Let me hear it again.
00:52:38Let me hear it.
00:52:38We got to say it back now.
00:52:39I'm just saying
00:52:40that God doesn't come
00:52:42for those
00:52:42that are saved already.
00:52:44You're already saved.
00:52:44I love that.
00:52:45I love that.
00:52:46I love that.
00:52:46It is the sinners
00:52:47that need saving
00:52:48and that's who needs attention
00:52:50and you see it
00:52:51even in rooms.
00:52:52The persons with false
00:52:52we must never look down
00:52:54at them.
00:52:56Always listen to them.
00:52:57Everybody has a reason
00:52:58why they do this
00:52:58and why they do that.
00:53:00Why?
00:53:01Why?
00:53:01They always have a why
00:53:02and that's why society
00:53:03don't listen.
00:53:04We are quick
00:53:05to cast as purge
00:53:07on men
00:53:07and blame men
00:53:08for doing this
00:53:09and blame men
00:53:10for doing that
00:53:10but do we really ever
00:53:11there are a lot of men
00:53:14out there
00:53:14who work hard
00:53:16who are single
00:53:17who are stepfathers
00:53:19but treat
00:53:20their stepchildren
00:53:22like their own
00:53:22and sometimes
00:53:23these stepfathers
00:53:24never even acknowledge
00:53:26acknowledge
00:53:28but I know
00:53:29there are people
00:53:30now nothing wrong
00:53:30with building a house
00:53:31and having a step
00:53:32nothing wrong
00:53:33that was a joke
00:53:34look at the laugh
00:53:35that was a joke
00:53:36right?
00:53:36Yeah yeah
00:53:37kind of my thing
00:53:38normally
00:53:38but
00:53:38it wasn't the best
00:53:42it wasn't the best
00:53:43I don't believe it
00:53:44go ahead
00:53:44go ahead
00:53:45we go step up
00:53:45next time
00:53:46okay
00:53:46but
00:53:46at the end of the day
00:53:48that there are people
00:53:50who just
00:53:50try
00:53:51there are people
00:53:52who try
00:53:52and there are people
00:53:52I'm sure there are people
00:53:53that are watching us
00:53:55only millions of people
00:53:56watching manhood right now
00:53:57and there are fathers
00:53:59who really try
00:53:59there are men
00:54:00who really try
00:54:01and try to be versatile
00:54:01in every situation
00:54:02and every time
00:54:03they're faced with a challenge
00:54:05they try to go take it
00:54:06to the next level
00:54:06but there are good men
00:54:07out there
00:54:08there are good people
00:54:08there are good fathers
00:54:09out there
00:54:10right
00:54:10now as a God-fearing man
00:54:12right
00:54:12even though that
00:54:13that might have been
00:54:14a gossip just now
00:54:15about millions of people
00:54:16watching manhood
00:54:16are receiving that
00:54:17are receiving that
00:54:18as a blessing
00:54:19speak it
00:54:20yeah
00:54:20words have power
00:54:22words have power
00:54:24listen man
00:54:25the most dangerous
00:54:26thing in your life
00:54:27right now
00:54:28is that thing
00:54:28called your tongue
00:54:29or not
00:54:29your tongue
00:54:30could keep you
00:54:30or your tongue
00:54:31could bring you down
00:54:32or bring you up
00:54:33you know
00:54:33words
00:54:34you see words
00:54:35words are very important
00:54:37if you have nothing
00:54:38good to say
00:54:38don't say nothing
00:54:39right
00:54:40don't say nothing
00:54:41and before I go
00:54:43one of my secrets
00:54:44I believe in her energy
00:54:46I believe in her energy
00:54:49I try to associate
00:54:50myself with persons
00:54:51with good energy
00:54:52like every day
00:54:55you hear sad news
00:54:56people calling me
00:54:56nobody calling me
00:54:57to tell me
00:54:58I win the lot
00:54:58maybe one day
00:54:59but there's always
00:55:00some sad news
00:55:01Mr. Allen do this
00:55:01Mr. Allen help me with this
00:55:02Mr. Allen this man
00:55:03want to kill me
00:55:03Mr. Allen this man
00:55:04take my money
00:55:05Mr. Allen this man
00:55:05want to thief my car
00:55:06all kind of thing
00:55:07and fish and bread
00:55:08and all kind of thing
00:55:09all kind of thing
00:55:10no but you already
00:55:11win the lot too
00:55:12you are Ian Allen
00:55:13no but at the end
00:55:14of the day
00:55:14no I am Ian Allen
00:55:15but at the end of the day
00:55:16it does nothing for me
00:55:17I'm just who
00:55:18this is me here
00:55:19and I love this
00:55:20if I tell you this
00:55:21I really really
00:55:21long time
00:55:22I haven't gone into a show
00:55:23and enjoy myself like this
00:55:24I feel like I put down my guard
00:55:25I feel like if you bring
00:55:26something to drink
00:55:27I might have a drink
00:55:28I might laugh
00:55:28because you bring
00:55:29all the side of me
00:55:30I don't know if it's
00:55:31some kind of mind thing
00:55:32you're playing with me
00:55:33because you're only watching me
00:55:34in that kind of way
00:55:35to gain my soul
00:55:36it's the collective
00:55:38that's what manhood is
00:55:40next thing I start to wear
00:55:41a mustard jacket
00:55:42on my show
00:55:42kind of thing
00:55:43you understand
00:55:44I feel like you're
00:55:44getting in my head boy
00:55:45I just want to answer
00:55:47your question
00:55:47that you was asking
00:55:48to Ian Real
00:55:49I think that it have men
00:55:50heavy as the head
00:55:52that wears the crown
00:55:52right
00:55:53it'll have men
00:55:54that don't have a pillow
00:55:55to lean on
00:55:56that's just the reality
00:55:57there will be no one
00:55:58around you
00:55:59unless you're paying
00:56:00for assistance
00:56:01who's there to help
00:56:03well it's like dominoes
00:56:04somebody had to be the first
00:56:05had to have one
00:56:07so it had to have one
00:56:08and therefore
00:56:09and when we get
00:56:10and when we get depressed
00:56:11what we do
00:56:12we drive
00:56:12I drive
00:56:13I can drive
00:56:13I drive
00:56:14I drive a lot
00:56:15I can drive from here
00:56:15to San Fernando
00:56:16here to Ikakas
00:56:17and come back
00:56:18when I get depressed
00:56:18yeah
00:56:19I listen to music
00:56:20I listen to music
00:56:22when I get sad
00:56:23I just listen to music
00:56:24I like to lock
00:56:25I can lock up
00:56:25and I sit down
00:56:26and just watch
00:56:27and I'm not crazy
00:56:28but I can sit down
00:56:29by myself for hours
00:56:30you know
00:56:30you ever feel
00:56:31ashamed
00:56:32I feel every day
00:56:35yeah plenty of times
00:56:36ashamed of what
00:56:37like what
00:56:38just in general
00:56:38the feeling of shame
00:56:39no I don't know
00:56:40to be ashamed
00:56:40I just think
00:56:41that I'm trying
00:56:44I'm really trying
00:56:45and people
00:56:45and people quick
00:56:46to judge me
00:56:47and people
00:56:48say silly things
00:56:48about me
00:56:49they make homophobic
00:56:50statements about me
00:56:51and I don't like it
00:56:52and I just find
00:56:53that it's so stupid
00:56:54and that's it
00:56:56just people don't know me
00:56:57if you know me
00:56:58just get to know me
00:57:00that's all I ask people
00:57:00just to know me
00:57:01I'm a nice fella
00:57:02I like to treat people
00:57:04good
00:57:05no it has some people
00:57:06who don't want to know you
00:57:08they prefer to know
00:57:09what they think of you
00:57:10and hold on to that
00:57:11and that is something
00:57:12I realize
00:57:13we can't change
00:57:14sometimes we wish
00:57:15I wish somebody
00:57:16could just understand me
00:57:17I wish somebody
00:57:17and that is what
00:57:20a lot of times
00:57:20will end up being a wish
00:57:21it will have people
00:57:22who will make the effort
00:57:23but I think that
00:57:24most times
00:57:25being the minority
00:57:26we must respect people
00:57:27for how
00:57:27you don't respect people
00:57:29personally
00:57:29respect people attire
00:57:30respect what people
00:57:31how people choose
00:57:32to live their life
00:57:33well you know Ian
00:57:33when somebody says that
00:57:35whether it be homophobic comments
00:57:36or whether it be
00:57:37any kind of comments
00:57:38towards you
00:57:39have a smooth look
00:57:39have a neat look
00:57:40have a clean look
00:57:40but a lot of times
00:57:41it's not even about you
00:57:43it's about where they are
00:57:44in their smallness
00:57:45in their life
00:57:46at that point
00:57:48that they're looking on at you
00:57:49as it's almost envy
00:57:51and you said it
00:57:53you said it earlier
00:57:53where I want to tear him down
00:57:55I don't like that
00:57:56you know it could be
00:57:57where people
00:57:58when I was
00:57:59when I was on TV
00:58:00or in other shows
00:58:01that I do
00:58:01and a woman
00:58:02maybe you know
00:58:03your wife
00:58:04might be looking at me
00:58:05and me make a comment
00:58:06and all of a sudden
00:58:07that man might take it
00:58:08upon himself
00:58:09to spit
00:58:10spit you know
00:58:12nastiness my way
00:58:13because of the envy
00:58:14of that
00:58:14like why my wife
00:58:15watching him
00:58:16and you wouldn't
00:58:17if you're strong
00:58:18and you're solid
00:58:20in your manliness
00:58:21and your manhood
00:58:22right
00:58:23and your masculinity
00:58:23you would just brush
00:58:25that off
00:58:25yeah okay
00:58:26he's a good looking fella
00:58:27you know
00:58:27but because
00:58:28or like how a man
00:58:29could look at someone
00:58:29and say hey
00:58:30you're looking good
00:58:30in that jacket
00:58:31or that suit
00:58:31or that jacket
00:58:32you know
00:58:33we don't do that again
00:58:36because in some ways
00:58:37it's a challenge
00:58:38it looks
00:58:39it looks weak
00:58:40in some ways
00:58:41and we're insecure
00:58:42they always say
00:58:43when somebody
00:58:43looks at someone
00:58:44and says
00:58:45why that person
00:58:46real fat boy
00:58:47and you're telling
00:58:47other people that
00:58:48it's because either
00:58:49you have fear
00:58:50of becoming that
00:58:51or you're envious
00:58:52of that boy
00:58:53people like to bring
00:58:53down people
00:58:54to go on to
00:58:54correct
00:58:55how people like
00:58:56to do that
00:58:56okay like everybody
00:58:57okay
00:58:57there's a nice jacket
00:58:58I love it
00:58:59when I saw him
00:59:00when he brought me up
00:59:01I was like
00:59:02hey this is nice
00:59:03okay
00:59:03he looked like
00:59:04there's a tie alone
00:59:05it's not like
00:59:06there's TV
00:59:07but this is his personality
00:59:08but he looks
00:59:09yeah this is kind of
00:59:10foreign look
00:59:11you have your personality
00:59:12there's a nice jacket
00:59:13there's a nice pants
00:59:14there's a nice shoe
00:59:15you have your style
00:59:16there might be a golden goose
00:59:17I don't know
00:59:18you understand
00:59:19but everybody
00:59:19you know
00:59:20it's just like
00:59:21and I congratulate people
00:59:22hey that's a nice jacket
00:59:23and it's not because
00:59:25they're trying to get in your head
00:59:26it's just
00:59:26that's my personality
00:59:27and sometimes
00:59:28you need to tell people
00:59:29and sometimes
00:59:29men out
00:59:30they need to tell people
00:59:31say
00:59:31it's not because
00:59:32now you can't tell you
00:59:33you're looking good boy
00:59:34that would look like
00:59:34I can't have funny
00:59:35and then he said
00:59:37he would
00:59:37you'll get a beep
00:59:41that's looking real weird
00:59:43but you know what
00:59:44sometimes
00:59:44they just come
00:59:45make a compliment
00:59:46hey that's a nice shoe
00:59:46hey that's a nice shoe
00:59:47but where by that shoe
00:59:48oh hey
00:59:49that's a nice pants
00:59:50where by that pants
00:59:50what kind of plaid pants
00:59:52that's the thing
00:59:52that men don't do
00:59:53men hardly compliment
00:59:54each other for anything
00:59:55you need to
00:59:56especially about the careers
00:59:58because we're worried
00:59:59about what other people
01:00:00will perceive
01:00:01of them doing that
01:00:02whether it be the recipient
01:00:03of the comment
01:00:04or persons listening on
01:00:06but I want to get down to
01:00:07because we're drawing our clothes
01:00:09it's TV after all
01:00:10and one of the things
01:00:12Ian
01:00:13you have done
01:00:14in this environment
01:00:16is create a platform
01:00:17for persons
01:00:18who can't be heard
01:00:19yeah
01:00:19I'm the voice
01:00:20in the voice
01:00:21for those persons
01:00:23who may have had difficulty
01:00:25going into
01:00:25a police station
01:00:26or encountering something
01:00:28and we may think
01:00:29that's foreign
01:00:29like what do you mean
01:00:30you can't do that
01:00:31but there are people
01:00:32and you've created
01:00:33that platform
01:00:34and what I would ask you
01:00:36is what do you think
01:00:38if anything at all
01:00:39is going to save our rock
01:00:41yeah I believe so
01:00:44no what
01:00:45like what
01:00:46like what do you think
01:00:47is the
01:00:49apart from the work
01:00:51that you're doing
01:00:51what do you think
01:00:52could save the nation
01:00:54could save this nation
01:00:56or at least contribute to it
01:00:57Shindon is a great place
01:00:57Shindon and Tobago
01:00:59is a great place
01:01:00and not because
01:01:02you might have
01:01:02we might have crime
01:01:03everywhere there's crime
01:01:04maybe not per capita
01:01:06it's terrible here
01:01:08but in spite of all this
01:01:10in spite of all the
01:01:11in spite of all the fire
01:01:12and all the ashes
01:01:13and everything
01:01:14they are great people
01:01:16they are great people
01:01:17they are great people
01:01:18who try every day
01:01:19they are great people
01:01:20who do a lot
01:01:20a lot of humanitarian work
01:01:22they are people
01:01:22who feed people
01:01:23that we have hope
01:01:26we have hope
01:01:27and all we need to do
01:01:28is just a handful
01:01:29of miscreants
01:01:30just a handful
01:01:33of people
01:01:33that have this nation
01:01:35and gangs
01:01:35that have this nation
01:01:37so upset
01:01:38but if we could just
01:01:39eradicate them
01:01:40or move them out
01:01:41and that's it
01:01:42and change the culture
01:01:44but we are great people
01:01:45they are great Hindu people
01:01:46who fast
01:01:47and they go to the temples
01:01:48and Muslim people
01:01:49are coming up
01:01:50and Christian people
01:01:51Easter coming up
01:01:52there are just great people
01:01:53people flying
01:01:54Kitele Savannah
01:01:55all kind of things
01:01:56all is not gone
01:01:58in this country
01:01:59all is not gone
01:02:01in this country
01:02:01and that is why
01:02:02every day
01:02:02I will represent people
01:02:04who come to my platform
01:02:05who come to me
01:02:05and say
01:02:05Ian
01:02:06help me with this
01:02:07help
01:02:07because I believe
01:02:09that we
01:02:09we are sitting here
01:02:11you have your calling
01:02:12you have your calling
01:02:14Dumas
01:02:14you have your calling
01:02:15in every walk of life
01:02:17wherever you are
01:02:18you will be the catalyst
01:02:19of change
01:02:19give people hope
01:02:20as men
01:02:21we must give people hope
01:02:23don't tell them
01:02:24that's why
01:02:24I don't bad talk
01:02:24Trinidad
01:02:25and they say
01:02:25oh god
01:02:26that is it
01:02:26I look in the go
01:02:27away
01:02:27you never hear me say that
01:02:28I dislike
01:02:30I don't bad talk
01:02:31I don't go away
01:02:31you can never
01:02:32I watch me
01:02:32I in New York
01:02:33what day it was
01:02:33and I meet at Trini
01:02:34well
01:02:36I have to stop
01:02:36and say
01:02:37Mr. Mann
01:02:37never go
01:02:37relax yourself
01:02:39relax yourself
01:02:40I say
01:02:41cool it now
01:02:42I'm from Trinidad
01:02:42and I'm proud
01:02:44I'm proud
01:02:45the person wasn't proud of it
01:02:46no
01:02:47let's bad talk
01:02:47in the country
01:02:48let's washing his mouth
01:02:49and this one
01:02:49and that one
01:02:49okay okay
01:02:51okay
01:02:51if you finish talk
01:02:52okay
01:02:53I don't want to hear all that
01:02:53okay
01:02:55well I'm happy where I am
01:02:56I'm from Trinidad
01:02:57I was in Trinidad
01:02:58I'm a Trinidad
01:03:00and that's it
01:03:02I'm not bad talk
01:03:04in this place
01:03:04because this place
01:03:05could come back
01:03:06this place could come back
01:03:07and whoever
01:03:09might be in power
01:03:10we have to change
01:03:12our mindset
01:03:12we as a people
01:03:16must change our mindset
01:03:17and look for better
01:03:19tomorrow
01:03:19why do you think
01:03:20I go after people
01:03:21and I make sure
01:03:22they get locked up
01:03:23with their drugs
01:03:23and their guns
01:03:24because we want
01:03:24we must all be
01:03:26that catalyst
01:03:29for that change
01:03:30for tomorrow
01:03:31we are creating
01:03:32a better tomorrow
01:03:33not today
01:03:33we mightn't be able
01:03:34to do it today
01:03:34it might be total mayhem
01:03:36and everything
01:03:36might be in total
01:03:37this array today
01:03:37but there is a tomorrow
01:03:39the sun will go down
01:03:40and there will be
01:03:41a new horizon
01:03:41and we must wait
01:03:43for that
01:03:43the new horizon
01:03:44is coming
01:03:44if you could continue
01:03:46that message
01:03:47put a message
01:03:48to the nation
01:03:49but I thought
01:03:50I just addressed
01:03:51the whole nation
01:03:51you did
01:03:53but your disposition
01:03:54your disposition
01:03:55was still looking down
01:03:56and so I wanted
01:03:57to actually look at them
01:03:58they could hear you
01:04:01they could hear you
01:04:01and they could see you
01:04:02I find you have
01:04:03a little attitude
01:04:03but that's okay
01:04:04I find you have
01:04:05a little attitude
01:04:05somebody write me
01:04:08you have an attitude
01:04:08but he can put me
01:04:12in my place
01:04:12but like you said
01:04:14those are people
01:04:15that don't know me
01:04:16and that's okay
01:04:17but I know you
01:04:18a little bit
01:04:18I like that
01:04:20I like the fact
01:04:21that he was able
01:04:21to pull it back
01:04:22he pull it back
01:04:23no no no
01:04:24he's the master
01:04:25pull back
01:04:25he's the master
01:04:26he can pull back
01:04:27something
01:04:27he can pull it back
01:04:27but you know
01:04:28again
01:04:29we must be the catalyst
01:04:30for change
01:04:30and no matter
01:04:31where we might be
01:04:33as a nation
01:04:34and all the crime
01:04:35and what and all
01:04:35the political fights
01:04:37and all the things
01:04:38that are happening
01:04:38right now
01:04:39there's always
01:04:41a better tomorrow
01:04:42and make sure
01:04:44and treat people
01:04:45like how you would
01:04:46like to be treated
01:04:47be nice to people
01:04:48be nice
01:04:49you need to be nice
01:04:50just be nice to people
01:04:51tell them nice things
01:04:52and change your mindset
01:04:53about people
01:04:54if you have somebody
01:04:55only job you don't like
01:04:56change your mindset
01:04:58if you change your mindset
01:04:58whatever your mindset is
01:05:00if everyday you expect
01:05:01and you go
01:05:02everyday you pass
01:05:03in the coffee
01:05:04girl and you find
01:05:04she have an attitude boy
01:05:06so everyday
01:05:07because of your mindset
01:05:09she's like that to you
01:05:10that energy
01:05:10she
01:05:11you are attracting
01:05:13that energy
01:05:13but you get up
01:05:14and say
01:05:14let me just be nice
01:05:15hi morning
01:05:16how are you
01:05:17even though you know
01:05:18you're like
01:05:18hi how are you
01:05:19everything good
01:05:19and you will see
01:05:20that will change
01:05:21and she will have to
01:05:22she will start to be there
01:05:23because of your mindset
01:05:24we need to change
01:05:25our mindset
01:05:25all is not going
01:05:26if I tell you something
01:05:27I will never
01:05:28sell what I have
01:05:30in Trinidad
01:05:30and go away to live
01:05:31I can't live away
01:05:33I can't
01:05:33I just can't
01:05:34I can't live away
01:05:35and I will never do that
01:05:37what I leave in my
01:05:39good chance
01:05:39to be good to go away
01:05:40right
01:05:41to hustle
01:05:42and get up
01:05:43in the morning
01:05:44I have no problem
01:05:44with that
01:05:45but I love Trinidad
01:05:45and we are the ones
01:05:47you
01:05:47you
01:05:48you myself
01:05:49we are the ones
01:05:50will stay
01:05:50and make sure
01:05:51that this ship
01:05:52that this ship sail
01:05:53and we are not
01:05:55we are not leaving
01:05:55as Dennis Plummer said
01:05:56may God rest your soul
01:05:58in peace
01:05:59we are not leaving
01:06:00you leaving Dumas
01:06:01no
01:06:01if you get a big job
01:06:02out there
01:06:03with Dumas
01:06:04where is that one
01:06:05I will wear the red
01:06:08white and black
01:06:09he will go back
01:06:10and forth
01:06:10if I have a big walk
01:06:12it means I could
01:06:13come back and forth
01:06:13think about that
01:06:14he is the mind
01:06:15growing
01:06:15where you think about that
01:06:16I could
01:06:16where you think about that
01:06:17think about what exactly
01:06:19this all is
01:06:21exactly
01:06:21right
01:06:22you know he is the
01:06:23commissioner road
01:06:24he is the ground commissioner
01:06:26so we know
01:06:26we go have him down
01:06:28as his soul man
01:06:29so we want the arm
01:06:29we want the rug
01:06:30we give him the rug
01:06:31for crime watch
01:06:32and now he is
01:06:33open the door
01:06:34and he is the crime watch
01:06:35and welcome to
01:06:37Ian Allen's house
01:06:38and the two big rocks
01:06:39we go talk about that
01:06:40after I close the show
01:06:41right
01:06:41closing thoughts
01:06:44what I would say
01:06:46that there is no need
01:06:48to eradicate
01:06:50people who I believe
01:06:52suffering from
01:06:53mental health issues
01:06:54right
01:06:54and they have people
01:06:56who are preying
01:06:57on those people
01:06:58who are suffering
01:06:58from mental health issues
01:06:59to get them
01:07:01to do what they want
01:07:02so
01:07:03to go back
01:07:04into everything
01:07:05that we have been saying
01:07:06where
01:07:06everything is
01:07:09from the tongue
01:07:10but the tongue
01:07:10is controlled by the mind
01:07:11so if it is
01:07:12to go back
01:07:12to what Ian said
01:07:13is
01:07:14you can't change
01:07:15your mind
01:07:16but I know
01:07:16a lot of people
01:07:16don't know how to
01:07:17I would always suggest
01:07:19going to someone
01:07:21who actually could
01:07:22assist you in that
01:07:23whether it's talking
01:07:24to your men
01:07:25the fellas
01:07:26that you are around
01:07:27talking to your wife
01:07:28about being vulnerable
01:07:29about certain situations
01:07:31your pastor
01:07:32whoever
01:07:33just
01:07:33speak to someone
01:07:35about how you feel
01:07:37and be able
01:07:38to remove
01:07:40the character
01:07:41that you usually
01:07:42put on
01:07:42everyday
01:07:43and I think
01:07:44that that will be
01:07:45you know
01:07:46your first steps
01:07:46into a healthier space
01:07:48the only constant
01:07:50is change
01:07:51so therefore
01:07:52we are all changing
01:07:53and versatility
01:07:54is a major
01:07:55part of that
01:07:56the ability
01:07:57to adapt
01:07:57and not only
01:07:59survive
01:08:00but thrive
01:08:01in any environment
01:08:02and especially
01:08:02as a man
01:08:03whether you have
01:08:04a family
01:08:04whether he's a leader
01:08:05or even
01:08:06just you on your own
01:08:07the ability
01:08:07to change
01:08:09and understand
01:08:10who you are
01:08:11and have the courage
01:08:12as we talk about
01:08:13to be yourself
01:08:14is absolutely
01:08:15important
01:08:16so not much more
01:08:18to add to that
01:08:19but versatility
01:08:20versatility is also
01:08:21even though you may not
01:08:22be in a great space
01:08:23at the time
01:08:23someone may be
01:08:24in a worse space
01:08:25you know
01:08:25there's that saying
01:08:26that when you eat
01:08:27in fig
01:08:27somebody else
01:08:28eat in fig skin
01:08:29so to try to
01:08:30your best
01:08:30to be empathetic
01:08:32try to understand
01:08:33maybe where that person
01:08:34is or where they're
01:08:34coming from
01:08:35maybe their words
01:08:36are harsh
01:08:36but you know
01:08:37that saying
01:08:38as Michelle Obama
01:08:39said
01:08:40you know
01:08:40when they go low
01:08:40you go high
01:08:41so you catch more
01:08:43flies with honey
01:08:44kill them with kindness
01:08:45with subtlety
01:08:47Johanse
01:08:48Ian
01:08:48Niall
01:08:50she's a good one
01:08:51Yo my name is Kilu
01:08:59this song is
01:09:00When I Die
01:09:01and this is
01:09:02Man in Spotlight
01:09:03Why am I still alive?
01:09:13Yeah
01:09:15Why am I still alive?
01:09:22So when I die
01:09:23Tell me what will cry
01:09:26Is it just me or people
01:09:28Never love you when you're alive?
01:09:30As soon as you can
01:09:33It's like
01:09:33Don't worry
01:09:34to revive me
01:09:35But why am I still alive?
01:09:37Just ask me if I'm fine
01:09:40Ask me if my
01:09:42darkness
01:09:43I want thing
01:09:43I notice
01:09:44Can't really please
01:09:45People look hopeless
01:09:46So write me or leave me
01:09:47So write me or leave me
01:09:48A work on progress
01:09:49Live in the moment
01:09:50I'll remain in focus
01:09:51I write these rhymes
01:09:52I'ma sing this chorus
01:09:53It's like that
01:09:54Mother just fly before us
01:09:56It's like we fly before us
01:09:58So write me or leave me
01:10:00So when I die
01:10:01Tell me what will cry
01:10:03Is it just me or people
01:10:05Never love you when you're alive?
01:10:07As soon as you can
01:10:08It's like
01:10:09Now I am terrified
01:10:10But why am I still alive?
01:10:11Just ask me if I'm fine
01:10:12Ask me if I'm fine
01:10:13Ask me if I'm fine
01:10:14Ask me if I'm fine
01:10:15Ask me if I'm fine
01:10:16Ask me if I'm fine
01:10:17Ask me if I'm fine
01:10:18Ask me if I'm fine
01:10:19But why am I been good
01:10:20With the antics?
01:10:21Rather stay cool
01:10:22Come and collect it
01:10:23Couple them
01:10:24Print and tick
01:10:25We a card checkmate
01:10:26When we move just peace
01:10:27I mean I need friendships
01:10:28Yeah like quick
01:10:29Don't tell them I'm ready
01:10:30But then it's like sick
01:10:32Blood sicker than water
01:10:33But blood time switch
01:10:34Me see man
01:10:35Die
01:10:36Cause them blood can't mix
01:10:37Harding
01:10:38This is why me a move this way
01:10:39Don't try fix me
01:10:40Me alone in this
01:10:42Have a long history
01:10:43Me just pay for fine peace
01:10:44By 60
01:10:45Cried nice
01:10:46And my pain
01:10:47Was a mystery
01:10:48Dark and mistake
01:10:49I beat them
01:10:50Have like six friends
01:10:51God know my story
01:10:52I'ma not play a victim
01:10:53Chip a c*****
01:10:54But s*****
01:10:55And a s*****
01:10:56On range
01:10:57Them a move change
01:10:58For me enter the game
01:10:59You don't see much fame
01:11:00And them don't start fate
01:11:01If you care on the cheese
01:11:02Then now you go great
01:11:03You more drive for the beast
01:11:04Put the food on the plate
01:11:06Ma make you fit
01:11:07Son in a saint
01:11:08Have a strong heart
01:11:09But they tell a few strains
01:11:11From my tongue
01:11:12I must remember my name
01:11:13To my dogs
01:11:14That we mean like
01:11:15Ferties
01:11:16Son in a
01:11:17Take me
01:11:18What we cry
01:11:19Is it just me or people
01:11:21Never love you
01:11:22When you're alive
01:11:23As soon as you can
01:11:25It's like
01:11:26They want you to revive it
01:11:28But why you know
01:11:29Still alive
01:11:30Just
01:11:31Ask me if I'm fine
01:11:33Ask me
01:11:34Ask me if I'm fine
01:11:35Ask me if I'm fine
01:11:36Ask me if I'm fine
01:11:37Ask me if I'm fine
01:11:38Ask me if I'm fine
01:11:39Ask me if I'm fine
01:11:40Ask me if I'm fine
01:11:41Ask me if I'm fine
01:11:42Ask me if I'm fine
01:11:43Ask me if I'm fine
01:11:44Ask me if I'm fine
01:11:45Ask me if I'm fine
01:11:46Ask me if I'm fine
01:11:47Ask me if I'm fine
01:11:48Ask me if I'm fine
01:11:49Ask me if I'm fine
01:11:50Ask me if I'm fine
01:11:51Ask me if I'm fine
01:11:52Ask me if I'm fine
01:11:53Why don't you tell me who I'm crying Is it just me and people who never love you when you're alive?
01:12:01As soon as you get on your side then why you're too fine?
01:12:06Why am I still alive? Just ask me if you're fine
01:12:11Ask me if you're right
01:12:15Ask me if you're fine
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