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00:00Let's get started with today's Mushikisha meeting.
00:03Thank you for joining us.
00:04Thank you for having us.
00:06This program is a variety of educational programs
00:09in which we discuss various issues in the world
00:11that even experts cannot answer.
00:13Even if you don't have any expertise,
00:15you can be of any help.
00:17In other words, it's a variety of educational programs
00:19that Mushikisha discusses from their own point of view.
00:21The topic of today's Mushikisha meeting is love.
00:25Today, we will be discussing how to prevent young people from falling in love.
00:32I'm Miho Uehara from TV Osaka.
00:37Now, let's have each of the guests
00:40introduce themselves one by one.
00:43First, let's start with the one in a unique outfit.
00:46My name is Hifumi Nonen.
00:48Nice to meet you, Mr. Nonen.
00:52I'm a man with the most cutting-edge ideas
00:57about the world's situation and various issues in the world.
01:03I'm the person you can see the most from the sky.
01:07Next, let's have the one next to you.
01:10Nice to meet you, everyone.
01:13I'm Numata, a zookeeper at Numata Zoo in Niigata.
01:22My main job is breeding animals.
01:29I don't have much knowledge, but I'll do my best.
01:33Next, let's have the woman wearing a helmet.
01:36I'm Rina Takamura from Takamura Construction.
01:43My father builds dams.
01:48I'm 24 years old.
01:51I've never been in a relationship,
01:54so I don't know if I can help you today.
01:58I don't know if I can talk about stopping eating.
02:03I'd like to learn from you.
02:08Next, let's have the one next to you.
02:10I'm Hikari Higashibukuro, a comedian.
02:14You're a comedian?
02:16I've heard of you.
02:20Is there a problem?
02:22That's too fast.
02:24Don't tease me like that.
02:26Is there a problem with women?
02:28I don't think so.
02:30That's why I'm here today.
02:32I'd like to talk to you about love.
02:35I see.
02:37In this day and age,
02:39there are more games and the Internet.
02:43It's hard to have a relationship with men.
02:47In the countryside, you don't have to have sex.
02:53That's amazing.
02:55Are you okay with that?
02:57It's sexual harassment.
02:59No, it's just sexual harassment.
03:02It's not sexual harassment at all.
03:04It's not good.
03:05You don't have to have sex when you're in a relationship.
03:09You don't know that.
03:11What we're talking about now is sexual harassment.
03:14I don't care.
03:16I can't talk to you if you don't tell me this.
03:19I don't care.
03:21I'd like to ask you to be my wife.
03:27Are you a virgin?
03:29I'm sorry.
03:31I'm sorry.
03:33You're old.
03:34I'm not old.
03:35You're old.
03:37Do you still do this on TV?
03:39I'm not old.
03:41It's a meeting.
03:43You don't like it, do you?
03:45I'm a virgin.
03:47I don't like it.
03:49You're always playing.
03:51That's not true.
03:53It's a job discrimination.
03:55It's not a job discrimination.
03:57It's not.
03:59You don't know that.
04:01I'm a virgin.
04:03If you don't say that,
04:06You don't have many chances to play games on the Internet.
04:09You don't get along with men.
04:11I think you should get rid of it.
04:13Then you can have a relationship.
04:15I think so.
04:17I think so.
04:19I only know about animals.
04:23I'm a vegetarian.
04:25I think it's a male behavior.
04:29I think it's a male behavior.
04:31I see.
04:33Young people these days don't do this.
04:37Because they are afraid.
04:39Animals don't do this.
04:41They are embarrassed.
04:43They do this.
04:45I want to imitate this behavior.
04:47Men should do this.
04:49If there is a boy you like,
04:53Don't hide it.
04:55Spread the gold ball.
04:57Spread the gold ball.
04:59I'm sorry.
05:01I'm sorry.
05:03If there is a boy you like,
05:05Don't hide it.
05:07Spread the gold ball.
05:09I'm sorry.
05:11Then he will be a man.
05:13I'm sorry.
05:15It's not good.
05:17It's not good.
05:19I'm sorry.
05:21I'm a boy.
05:23It's the same.
05:25I'm sorry.
05:27What do you think of Takamura?
05:29Young people can't do it.
05:31It's not bad to break up.
05:33It's not bad to break up.
05:37So we don't want to see you guys.
05:39So we don't want to see you guys.
05:41It makes me feel depressed.
05:43It makes me feel depressed.
05:45We hope you can do it naturally.
05:47We hope you can do it naturally.
05:49I won't see it.
05:51I won't see it.
05:53What do you think of long-lasting break up?
05:55What do you think of long-lasting break up?
05:57What do you think about this?
05:59I know you guys are here, but I don't think it's a good idea to discuss this here.
06:04No, no.
06:06No, no.
06:08We're all busy.
06:10I don't think it's constructive to discuss this here.
06:14No, no. Please tell us your opinion.
06:16What should we do?
06:18I think it's better to ask the Internet.
06:21The Internet?
06:22There are a lot of different opinions, and a lot of people have different opinions.
06:27I think it's better to ask those people.
06:30But that's the opinion of the Internet, right?
06:32It's not like you don't have an opinion.
06:34That's right. I want to know the latest opinion.
06:37Come to my salon.
06:39Are you doing a salon?
06:40I'm doing it.
06:41What are you talking about?
06:42Come to my salon.
06:43We're having a lot of discussions in the salon.
06:46With the members.
06:48Come to my salon.
06:49How much is it a month?
06:502,000 yen.
06:51It's not that expensive.
06:53It's 2,000 yen.
06:54I can't go to the salon actively on my day off.
07:01I look at the Internet a lot.
07:03But I don't know much about love.
07:09I think it's better to have a chance to meet in person.
07:12I don't think it's good to look at the Internet.
07:14I think it's better to look at fake accounts.
07:16Fake accounts.
07:18You're just good at the Internet.
07:21You don't have an opinion.
07:22The Internet is outdated.
07:24It's old.
07:26I can understand.
07:27It's really old.
07:28You're just going to the Internet because you can't have a discussion.
07:32It's really old.
07:34You've never been in love, have you?
07:36It doesn't matter.
07:37Which one?
07:38It's not new to decide now.
07:42It's not new.
07:45I don't say I've ever been in love.
07:50So you don't have to be in love?
07:55It's better to be in love.
07:57I'm sorry to say this.
07:59Do you know TOKI?
08:02TOKI.
08:03Natural monument.
08:04TOKI.
08:05My father has been doing it since it was about to disappear.
08:10It has decreased to about 500,000.
08:13It has increased from there to about 500,000.
08:17It's going to be extinct.
08:19If you think like this.
08:21It's really terrible.
08:23It's going to be extinct.
08:24Humans will be gone.
08:26So I don't think it's good to go to a place where you don't love.
08:32If you think like Takamura, humans will be extinct.
08:37I have a lot of children who are not good at animals.
08:41I'm a young boy.
08:42Humans are extinct.
08:44I have a lot of children who are not good at animals.
08:48I have a lot of children who are not good at animals.
08:50I'm a junior.
08:53Are you a breeder?
08:55I'm a breeder.
08:57You have more children because of animals.
09:01I understand.
09:02I understand.
09:03I understand.
09:04I have to do that.
09:06I'm sorry.
09:10I'm sorry.
09:11Takamura understands.
09:13Don't touch me.
09:16You are cute.
09:18You are cute.
09:20I don't mean that.
09:22I don't mean that.
09:23I have information I want you to see.
09:27High school students have 22.8% kiss experience.
09:33Girls have 27.5%.
09:35Boys have the lowest kiss experience since 1974.
09:42High school students have 12% kiss experience.
09:48Girls have 14.8%.
09:50This is less than half compared to 2005.
09:55High school students have 86.5% kiss experience.
10:02Girls have 26.5% kiss experience.
10:04This is the highest in the past since the survey was started.
10:09High school students are not interested in sex.
10:14High school students have more sex experience than girls.
10:21High school students have more sex experience than boys.
10:26According to the number, boys have more sex experience than girls.
10:34High school students have more sex experience than girls.
10:36Takamura, what do you think?
10:40I don't think so.
10:42I don't think so.
10:45This is a monster created by the old media.
10:48I don't think so.
10:50I don't think so.
10:52I don't think so.
10:54I don't think so.
10:56Have you ever been confessed?
10:59I haven't.
11:01I think you have.
11:04I heard my friend said he liked me.
11:09I think so.
11:13I can't do it.
11:15I think people these days don't know how to act.
11:20You haven't been confessed?
11:22Are you staying tonight?
11:25What are you doing?
11:27You just ask if I'm staying.
11:29How long will you do this?
11:32I don't know.
11:34You're saying strange things.
11:36You're going to drink.
11:38I'm going to be angry.
11:40I'm going to be angry.
11:44I don't think I can talk to you because I'm angry.
11:55I don't think I have a job relationship.
11:59You should see animals.
12:02I envy animals.
12:05I want to live freely.
12:07You can poop in front of your favorite person.
12:12You can show your anus.
12:16That's right.
12:20We used to be like that.
12:23I think we should go back to animals now.
12:28I haven't had a chance to do that.
12:30You should see the tempo of a horse.
12:32Stop it.
12:34I'm sorry.
12:36I don't want to talk about that.
12:38You should see a horse.
12:41Stop it.
12:43You should see a horse.
12:45Stop it.
12:47You should see a horse.
12:49I want to talk to a man at work.
12:53I want to talk to a man at work.
12:56I don't want to be shown my anus.
12:58You want to show your anus.
13:01That's a good thing.
13:03That's a good thing.
13:05You're a human.
13:07You can talk to him.
13:09You may wear this kind of work clothes.
13:12You can see a man's anus.
13:16You should show your anus.
13:21You can see a man's anus.
13:23You want to see a man's anus?
13:25You should stop it.
13:28You are young.
13:32When I was a kid, I used to go look for erotic books when I was in middle school.
13:36Yeah, me too.
13:37We didn't even have internet back then.
13:40I used to watch videos of my friend's dad.
13:44I'd go to his house and look for his closet.
13:48It was great to be able to find things like that.
13:52But now, you can watch it anywhere, right?
13:55As soon as you open your phone.
13:58I think this is what I've become.
14:00That's true.
14:01You can't just go home.
14:03That's right.
14:04You can't get excited.
14:05The act of going to look for erotic books is the most important thing.
14:11I'm an adult before I go looking for erotic books.
14:15That's right.
14:16I'm sorry.
14:17I'm sorry.
14:18I'm sorry.
14:19That's the most important thing.
14:21I'm sorry.
14:22I'm sorry.
14:23It's about time.
14:25Can you give us your opinions?
14:29It's a solution to stop young people from falling in love.
14:34There were a lot of opinions about Kintama, right?
14:36That's right.
14:37Let's start with this person.
14:41So...
14:42What?
14:43What should I say?
14:45It's a solution to stop young people from falling in love.
14:53It's a solution to stop young people from falling in love.
15:05It's old.
15:07It's old.
15:08You said it well.
15:09Thank you very much.
15:10This is an opinion that has been discussed from the perspective of an ignorant person in order to stop young people from falling in love.
15:17I don't ask for any responsibility.
15:19Please read it in advance.
15:21It's a solution to stop young people from falling in love.
15:30It's old.
15:34From now on, we will have another discussion on the topic of love.
15:40Here it is.
15:41A company conducted a survey for 2,000 married men and women.
15:47The ratio of people who have been in a relationship with other than their partners is 59.3% for men.
15:56It's almost 60%.
15:58The result of the survey is 36.2% for women.
16:02So, we're going to talk to the ignorant people about how to stop young people from falling in love.
16:10I don't think it's a good idea to stop young people from falling in love.
16:12I see.
16:13It's a story of love.
16:16I see.
16:17If you want to stop young people from falling in love, you have to do it.
16:21It's best not to blame them too much.
16:24I see.
16:25If you say it's an animal, it's an animal.
16:27If you say it's an affair, it's an affair.
16:29That's right.
16:30But that's the way we think.
16:32Yes.
16:33Then why do you have to stop it?
16:35If that happens, you just have to apologize to your partner.
16:39How many times are you going to get angry?
16:42How many times are you going to get angry?
16:43It's just my opinion.
16:45Even if you hit your partner, you're still cheating, right?
16:47If there is such a percentage.
16:49It's about 60%.
16:51You're not cheating, right?
16:52You can't get married, right?
16:54That's why.
16:55That's a real problem.
16:59Cheating is not a crime in the first place, right?
17:03That's right.
17:04I've seen it on TV.
17:08It's like a criminal.
17:11You get hit every day.
17:12If it's a crime, what should I do?
17:15Is it about the constitution?
17:17It's not that difficult.
17:19If it's about the constitution, I'll do it.
17:21Is that easy?
17:23There are various ways to pass the law.
17:26How do you do it?
17:27There are various opinions on the Internet.
17:29I don't think you need an opinion on the Internet.
17:32How do you feel?
17:34Is it because you don't enjoy your job?
17:40It's not just about work.
17:42I have complaints about my partner.
17:45Do you have an affair?
17:47I'm not married.
17:49I've slept with someone's wife.
17:51That's amazing.
17:53Why is this person in Japan?
17:55I regret it.
17:57There are a lot of men and women like that in Japan.
18:01Let's stop hitting each other on the Internet.
18:08You're just hitting because you're supposed to be hit.
18:11I've been hit.
18:13It doesn't matter to the world.
18:15I want to do it, so I'm doing it.
18:17The only thing I apologize for is my partner.
18:19I'm OK with that.
18:21So you don't have to get married.
18:25That's right.
18:27Everyone gets married.
18:29If you have a child, you get married.
18:33That's the custom in Japan.
18:35If you don't have experience, you don't get married.
18:37But if you get married, you find a good person, you get married.
18:39If you have such an experience, you pretend to like it.
18:44You should be able to do it now.
18:46I don't know what kind of thing you're talking about.
18:48You should know it.
18:50I'm the best at it.
18:52You should know it.
18:54You should find a good person.
18:58You don't like this kind of thing.
19:00You should help me.
19:03I don't care who you are.
19:05I like you.
19:07That's a little different.
19:09I'm not talking about that.
19:11I've been watching you for a long time.
19:13I've been watching you for a long time.
19:15I can't get used to it.
19:17I think it's better to show it physically.
19:21That's not good.
19:23Animals are not like that.
19:25Animals are not like that.
19:27I think so.
19:29You should show it.
19:31You can hide it.
19:33I should hide it until I get married.
19:35You should hide it until you get married.
19:37That's how you can get people to like you.
19:39You don't tell people who hate you.
19:41It's hard to do it in winter because it's cold.
19:43I'm struggling.
19:45It's an old TV show I saw on X.
19:47Don't do it.
19:49I often hear that when you're young, you'll be delicate.
19:51I often hear that when you're young, you'll be delicate.
19:53When you are young, you are calm.
19:55When you are young, you are calm.
19:57If you don't go through this, you can't be good at it.
19:59There are people who explode at the age of 50.
20:03That's dangerous, isn't it?
20:05That's what I think.
20:06Then you should do it when you're young.
20:10But it's been exploding all the time, hasn't it?
20:14It's been exploding, and we're going to continue to do it in the future.
20:17That's crazy.
20:18There are some crazy people.
20:20Are all entertainers like that?
20:22No, it's decreasing.
20:24There are some places where you can't play like that.
20:28I don't think I'm going to release a new entertainer yet.
20:32It's like an activity.
20:35It's the same with animals.
20:37Animals are taught not to pee here.
20:41I teach them a lot, but when I teach them, they sometimes listen to me.
20:46There are people who are rebellious.
20:48I don't want to do it when I tell them to do it.
20:51I do it when I tell them not to do it.
20:52That's what we have in us.
20:55It's not good to be rebellious.
20:57The world is going to be destroyed.
21:00I can't do that.
21:03That's why it's important to be rebellious.
21:07If you're rebellious, I'll give you 100,000 yen.
21:12If you say that, it will decrease.
21:16I think it will increase.
21:18It won't increase.
21:19That's what it is.
21:20Mr. Higashibukuro, did you do it because you were banned?
21:25I didn't do it because I was banned.
21:31I'm reflecting on that.
21:34I didn't do it because I was told not to do it.
21:38If I was told to do it, I wouldn't have done it.
21:43I think you're doing more.
21:46I'm getting more and more interested.
21:49You're asking me a lot of questions.
21:52I think you're a strange person.
21:53Have you ever been unmarried?
21:56I haven't.
21:58I haven't.
21:59Are you married?
22:01Why do I have to say that?
22:05That's a different question.
22:08That's a conversation.
22:11You've been talking about old things.
22:16If you don't correct it, it's over.
22:20Tell me something new.
22:22It's over.
22:23I only say old things.
22:25I'm telling you to say it at the salon.
22:27Look at the salon.
22:30It's 2,000 yen.
22:32If it's a month, it's 2,000 yen.
22:34If it's a year, it's 20,000 yen.
22:36It's 4,000 yen.
22:38It's a good deal.
22:40It's 4,000 yen.
22:41How many people are in the salon now?
22:43There are about 600 people.
22:45What kind of person are you?
22:47It's a salon.
22:50Are you a professional in the salon?
22:53I'm a professor of sociology.
22:56You're a professor of sociology.
22:58You're having a discussion in the salon.
23:02What kind of content do you write in the salon?
23:05That's what I'm talking about.
23:06I'm thinking about how to polish the latest way of thinking.
23:10You're paying 2,000 yen for that?
23:12That's amazing.
23:14I don't know.
23:16We don't know.
23:18You don't know, do you?
23:20You don't know, do you?
23:25Please let me know what you think.
23:32You don't know, do you?
23:36Please let me know what you think.
23:40I'll tell you at the salon.
23:44I'll tell you at the salon.
23:46Do you want to go to the salon?
23:49I want to go to the salon.