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- Rana Sanaullah Khan PMLN
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Imran Khan offered to move to Bani Gala? - Sheikh Waqas Akram's Big Clarification
"Sharm Karen Aur Party Chor Den...", Sheikh Waqas Akram Ka Ishara Kis Ki Tarf?
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00:00Bismillah-e-Rahman-e-Rahim, program Aitaraaz-e-Haq-e-Isaaq, I am Anika Nisar and this is the first Aitaraaz
00:15of 2025.
00:16The interesting thing is that in these two or three days, there have been so many developments
00:22that if we look back at these two or three days, we will see a lot of things from last
00:27year.
00:28First of all, on 2nd January, there was a meeting between Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf and the government
00:33which was basically a matter of negotiations.
00:35And in this, the Charter of Demand was to be brought by Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf in a
00:40written form.
00:41It could not come.
00:42It was postponed till the next meeting.
00:44In addition, the criminals who were punished in relation to 9th May, the punishment had
00:50been announced by the military courts.
00:53In addition, on 3rd January, there was a meeting of the Apex Committee in which there was
01:00a discussion about the increasing terrorism in the country.
01:03Ali Ameen Ghandapur Sahib was also present there.
01:06We will also talk about that.
01:08The one coming next week is also very interesting because on Saturday, there was a meeting of
01:15the leaders of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf.
01:17Next week, on 6th January, a decision of £190 million is going to be made and on 7th January,
01:21the Supreme Court bench will end the trial of civilians in the military court.
01:25Now, if we talk about negotiations, on Saturday, there was a meeting of the leaders of Pakistan
01:30Tehreek-e-Insaf.
01:31We will also talk about that.
01:33Next week, on 6th January, there was a meeting of the leaders of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf.
01:37Next week, on 6th January, there was a meeting of the leaders of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf.
01:41Now, first of all, if we talk about the negotiations, certain demands and expectations which were
01:46to come in written form of PTI, they have not come in written form yet.
01:49They have been conditioned by the meeting.
01:51But overall, orally, what demands and expectations have been told by the different leaders of
01:56PTI?
01:57Let's listen to that.
02:00We will take judicial relief from the courts.
02:02We don't want to make such a deal that we tell you that we will give you an undertaking
02:06and you open the door of the court and Kar-Kohn and Imran Khan get released.
02:09We want to have a meeting.
02:11We want to talk to Mr. Khan in detail.
02:13We want to take his instructions.
02:15The government has made it clear that there are no demands from their side.
02:18We have also made a very clear statement about Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf.
02:21One point is our prisoners, in which there is Prime Minister Imran Khan, Shah Mehmood
02:26Qureshi, Dr. Yasmin Rashid.
02:28We have two commissions, on 9th May and 26th November.
02:31They are a team of the government.
02:33They should have access to Prime Minister Imran Khan.
02:36We will talk to them and take further instructions from them.
02:40Now, there are two different sides from the government side.
02:42One side says that negotiations should be done and things should be made better.
02:45The other side says that nothing is going to come out of the negotiations because the
02:48other side is not serious.
02:49Now, is the other side serious or not?
02:51Amir Maqam has definitely said that is the release of Imran Khan possible or not?
02:56Because before this, there was a lot of news about his release from the executive order
03:01and there was a lot of demand.
03:02Let's listen to that too.
03:04We are talking about negotiations.
03:06On the other hand, there is also a propaganda of threats.
03:09We already had a desire.
03:10Shahbaz Sharif's speech is on the record.
03:12They rejected it at the same time.
03:14When you yourself demanded it, we welcomed it.
03:17When we talk about their demand, it is the release of Imran Khan.
03:20He is not in the control of any committee.
03:22He is in the control of courts and courts.
03:25He has to go to those courts and courts.
03:27He is a free citizen of Pakistan.
03:29He should go and fight his case.
03:32On the one hand, the matter of negotiations.
03:33On the other hand, there have been very important discussions in the meeting of the EPICS Committee.
03:37In terms of terrorism, the ministers and the Prime Minister of all provinces of Pakistan,
03:42that is, all governments are on the same page.
03:44Which is a very positive thing.
03:45That all governments are at least on the same page on this matter.
03:48But today, another thing happened in terms of the EPICS Committee.
03:50On November 24, 25, 26, the Prime Minister remembered
03:54and talked about propaganda in reference to it.
03:56I will also tell you his reaction, but first listen to the Prime Minister.
04:00The riots that took place in Islamabad,
04:03as a result of which the social media
04:05picked up a storm of anger
04:07and destroyed the facts.
04:10If we do not counter this,
04:12then all your desires will be washed away.
04:17Now Ali Ameen Gandapur's reaction to this.
04:19He thinks this was not right.
04:20He should not have talked about this to the Prime Minister.
04:23On 26th, the Prime Minister himself touched on this matter.
04:26It is being said that there were shootings and riots,
04:29when in reality there was nothing like that.
04:31It is absolutely inappropriate to talk about such things on this forum.
04:34A country's Prime Minister is talking about such a thing
04:36that such a big tragedy happened,
04:38such a big oppression happened on the workers of the political party.
04:40Nothing like this happened.
04:41We say that we should convene a commission.
04:43If a person has done something wrong, then he should be punished.
04:46But first, it should be determined what he has done wrong
04:48and how much he has done wrong.
04:50In the program, we will also talk about this commission,
04:52what the government thinks about this commission.
04:54But overall, everyone's point of view on terrorism was the same.
04:59Sheikh Waqas Akram is with us.
05:01He is the Secretary-in-Chief of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf.
05:03First, we will talk to him.
05:04Thank you very much, Sheikh Sahib, for joining us.
05:06Sheikh Sahib, first, let's talk about the discussions.
05:08First, tell us about the Bani Gala.
05:10As far as Imran Khan is concerned, Faisal Chaudhary is saying that
05:13the offer of Bani Gala came.
05:15Now, did such an offer come through the leaders of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf?
05:20Did someone directly offer it to Imran Khan?
05:23Was there any breaking news that Khan Sahib replied to?
05:27What was this?
05:29Look, while talking to the journalists,
05:32Faisal Chaudhary talked about it later,
05:34but before that, Imran Khan was talking to the journalists.
05:37Obviously, a journalist from your channel will also be present there,
05:40because they are usually there.
05:42He responded to a journalist's question that
05:46I have received these offers, which I have rejected.
05:51In which he said that the three-year offer was about Tuatak,
05:55which I have never accepted.
05:57At that time, I also refused.
05:58And now, this has happened that if you go to Bani Gala, then…
06:02But Khan has refused.
06:04No one got a chance to ask him the question that you are asking,
06:08that who brought this offer, when and how.
06:10Inshallah, when we meet again, we will definitely ask this too,
06:12and then we will share it with you too.
06:13So, when is the next meeting, Sheikh Sahib?
06:15Because after the next meeting, your written Charter of Demand will come.
06:20Yes, because we have said very clearly that
06:22the last meeting was recorded in a very small room,
06:26in which we could not tell the details, nor could we do it.
06:30And at that time, many of our people were not even present.
06:33So, we will meet you again.
06:35As it is, it is our right.
06:36We are not asking anything out of the box.
06:38You have stopped the meetings by going out of the way.
06:41So, you access it.
06:42So, the government said, okay, we will do it.
06:44Allah Khair Salaam.
06:45We said that these things are two points.
06:48There is no need to write about it,
06:50because as a party, we think that we have to talk about these two points.
06:54So, why do you keep saying to write about it?
06:56But anyway, this is not my opinion.
06:58This is the discussion committee,
07:00and the people from the government are in their committee.
07:03They have agreed with each other.
07:04Okay.
07:05So, when we meet Mr. Khan,
07:07the things will be discussed in detail.
07:10So, it will be a suitable thing.
07:13These things will be discussed.
07:14There will be no addition or deletion in this.
07:16Okay.
07:17But we will get guidance from Mr. Khan on this.
07:19Okay.
07:20So, Mr. Khan will be shown exactly what the written demands are,
07:23and approval will be taken from him.
07:24After that, the matter will be taken forward.
07:26Why not?
07:27Look, the people from their side,
07:29obviously, they will be talking to their leaders.
07:32They will be talking to their leaders every minute.
07:33We do not have that access or luxury.
07:35So, we told them to do that.
07:37They said, okay.
07:38Okay.
07:39So, Mr. Sheikh, tell us,
07:41if these written demands are met,
07:43and all the matters are resolved,
07:44a deadline has been given by the PTI for 31st January.
07:47Yes.
07:48This has been delayed so much till now.
07:50Do you think that the matter will be resolved by 31st January?
07:55Look, I think, if there is no such thing,
07:58then we have not asked for such things,
08:01which could not be done.
08:03But let's say,
08:04there is a delay in this due to unforeseen issues.
08:07But, if we see seriousness in the people of the government,
08:13in the talks, in the actions,
08:15then it can be kept in front of Mr. Khan.
08:17It is their decision.
08:18There is no responsibility in the committee or the party
08:22to do that.
08:24If such a thing happens,
08:25then it can be kept in front of Mr. Khan.
08:27Okay, you said,
08:28you see seriousness on the governmental side.
08:30In this regard,
08:31I heard different statements of different leaders.
08:34I did not say that.
08:35No, I did not say,
08:36I can see it.
08:37I said, when I could see it.
08:38You could not see it till now, Mr. Sheikh?
08:41No, when there is seriousness in the talks,
08:44after that,
08:45there was a preliminary meeting.
08:47In the second meeting,
08:48there was this,
08:49there was this,
08:50so we said,
08:51let's ask.
08:52If the talks go on,
08:53then we will know how serious it is.
08:54Now, with these things,
08:55we do not know who is how serious.
08:57Mr. Sheikh,
08:58what will the government and its team have to do
09:00to prove to you that they are serious?
09:02Substantial steps.
09:04Practically,
09:05the things that we have,
09:07we will see them moving forward.
09:09What else will we have to do?
09:11Okay,
09:12one of those substantial steps,
09:14is it not that Imran Khan should be released?
09:17And because,
09:18Hamid Reza Sahib's statement…
09:20No,
09:21these are very poor,
09:22poor people.
09:23They talk like this.
09:24In that,
09:25Imran Khan has given his own statement.
09:27Imran Khan has said,
09:28that I will not come out at all,
09:30when every politician of Tariq-e-Insaf,
09:32who apart from me,
09:33does not come out in different jails in Pakistan,
09:35I will not come out either.
09:37He has made it very clear.
09:39This has also come from his Twitter handle.
09:42His translators have also said this,
09:44and the party has also said this.
09:45So no,
09:46it is not like that.
09:47He has said that my statement will be at the end.
09:49Although,
09:50he is our biggest and most valuable political prisoner.
09:53But he says,
09:54my personal statement,
09:55you leave it,
09:56it will be at the end.
09:57First,
09:58you talk about justice.
09:59We will talk about justice,
10:00Mr. Sheikh,
10:01but I want to talk about two things,
10:03which I will put in front of you.
10:05First,
10:06he says,
10:07it is time for us to smile.
10:08Second,
10:09he says,
10:10Imran Khan will come out of jail,
10:11without a stamp paper.
10:12What is the source of this confidence?
10:17Look,
10:18I don't know,
10:19I have not even spoken to him.
10:21Why will it be time to smile?
10:23Because we think that,
10:25right now,
10:26a massacre of 13 people,
10:28which the Prime Minister has ordered to be carried out,
10:32is on our heads.
10:33For us,
10:34it will be a day of joy,
10:37when all our prisoners will be released,
10:39and our martyrs,
10:40our prisoners,
10:41our missing people,
10:42will get justice.
10:44As far as the stamp paper is concerned,
10:46that is very clear.
10:47Mr. Khan,
10:48categorically,
10:49not today,
10:50what you have told me about a minister,
10:54what is his name,
10:55Amir Muqam,
10:56he spoke today or yesterday,
10:59but Mr. Khan,
11:007-8 days ago,
11:02and then 4 days ago,
11:03he has made it clear,
11:05he has given a statement,
11:07he has officially said,
11:08when we say,
11:09our prisoners should be released,
11:11that means,
11:12that we want to come out through our judicial system.
11:15And what does that mean?
11:17That means,
11:18that you have made false statements,
11:21your IAO,
11:22your FIA,
11:23your police,
11:24your ranger,
11:25you have done everything,
11:26by writing false stories.
11:27Then the cases go to the courts,
11:29then you say,
11:30obviously we are not saying this to you,
11:32we are saying,
11:33that you should have an influence on the courts,
11:35have an influence on the judicial process,
11:36give a warning to the judges,
11:37try to get your own decisions from them,
11:40stop it.
11:41Like the 6 judges of the High Court wrote a letter,
11:43like the ATC wrote a letter,
11:45like Lahore ATC,
11:47like Faisalabad ATC wrote a letter,
11:49when you stop having an influence on them,
11:51then the cases are almost at their end,
11:54they are false cases,
11:55they have no evidence,
11:56why are there no witnesses,
11:57the prosecutions are weak,
11:59there is no evidence,
12:00it's just,
12:01you drag them,
12:02stop dragging them,
12:03your people who go and investigate.
12:05Sir,
12:06a very important case has to be decided now,
12:08I will talk about this case in this context,
12:10£190 million.
12:11The question arises,
12:12that on 6th January,
12:13that is,
12:14there is a strong possibility of this decision coming on Monday,
12:16now if it is delayed,
12:17then it is a different matter.
12:18But,
12:19tell me one thing,
12:20if it is decided that Imran Khan will be punished,
12:23will it be said that the government has had an influence on the court,
12:27and if it is decided that Imran Khan should be acquitted,
12:30or,
12:31you know,
12:32he should not be made a criminal,
12:33then will it be said that,
12:35no,
12:36at this time,
12:37the court has stood up against the government,
12:39what will be the stance behind this?
12:41The situation that has been created,
12:45we will decide at that time,
12:46we have not written any answer,
12:48the situation at that time,
12:49we will give it in that context,
12:50the statement that we have given.
12:51Sir,
12:52there will be a discussion about this, right?
12:53Yes,
12:54there will be,
12:55the question you have asked,
12:56I will tell you,
12:57it is a criminal case,
12:58there is nothing beyond this case,
12:59it is a false case,
13:00where did the money come from,
13:02in whose account did it go,
13:03who invested it,
13:04who earned interest on it,
13:05who ate it,
13:06in whose account is it now?
13:08This is not a case at all,
13:10this is nonsense,
13:11okay,
13:12we are saying it clearly,
13:13this is nonsense,
13:14this is a mischief,
13:15a fraud,
13:16which has been done,
13:17and in that,
13:18his wife was also involved,
13:19who did not have any such government status,
13:21in that,
13:22anyway,
13:23this is a criminal case,
13:24we are seeing,
13:25if they give a punishment in it,
13:28as Mr. Khan said then also,
13:30and many people who were in the court,
13:32who were lawyers,
13:33they say that the environment is telling,
13:35that maybe they want to punish,
13:36this means that,
13:37up to the High Court,
13:40they will drag us for 1.5 to 2 months,
13:43and,
13:44and,
13:45up to May,
13:46every,
13:47I mean,
13:48up to 3 months,
13:49a case will go on,
13:51again,
13:52doing that,
13:53doing that,
13:54doing the petition,
13:55going in their appeal,
13:56doing the appeal,
13:57okay,
13:58so,
13:59yes,
14:00so,
14:01we understand that,
14:02if they do this,
14:03so,
14:04what will happen is that,
14:05the first and second case,
14:06the High Court will dismiss it,
14:07if they don't dismiss it,
14:08the Supreme Court will dismiss it,
14:09this is not a case at all,
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15:39and especially with regards to the release of Imran Khan and the cases,
15:44I think if he can't be brave, if he can't speak openly,
15:48then he should be ashamed to leave the party.
15:50You have included your own leaders in this.
15:52Yes, yes, I will say everything.
15:55If he talks about Khan on the record,
15:57and if he talks about you on the record,
15:59then he should be ashamed.
16:01The second thing, the second thing,
16:03you have talked about Trump.
16:06Look, Imran Khan and Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf,
16:09they only have faith in God,
16:13they have hope in God,
16:15they have prayer in God that we are on the right path.
16:17With such a great public power,
16:19despite this regret,
16:21there was a mandate theft in the assembly.
16:24So after this power,
16:26we don't need any foreign intervention or power.
16:28The issue of human rights is in Pakistan,
16:31in every district, in every province.
16:33Other countries talk about it.
16:36Human rights issue is a human rights issue.
16:38Speaking about that is enough.
16:40So those countries talk about it.
16:42And your partners,
16:44from whom you take money
16:46and give it to someone,
16:48sometimes to USID,
16:50sometimes to UNDP,
16:52they talk about it.
16:54But in this,
16:56Tariq-e-Insaf has nothing to do with it.
16:58Neither does Tariq-e-Insaf have hope
17:00in anyone other than God.
17:02But when you pray to God,
17:05do you hope that God will make Trump a mediator?
17:09We hope that God will make
17:11the people of Pakistan a mediator
17:13in this country for rule of law
17:15and democracy.
17:17Right.
17:19There are very interesting comments
17:21coming from the government regarding
17:23Ali Amin Gandapur.
17:25He is being praised for his mature
17:27behavior in the APICS committee.
17:29And this is a positive thing.
17:31In the Muzakirati committee.
17:34But will this create a problem
17:36for Ali Amin Gandapur?
17:38Because I remember when I met
17:40Mohsin Naqvi, Mr. Khan said
17:42that it was necessary to take a picture
17:44of him.
17:46If he is being praised in the Muzakirati committee,
17:48is this going to be a problem for him
17:50or is it okay?
17:52I don't think so.
17:54He is the chief executive of the province.
17:56He is a mature man.
17:58He leads such grand mobilizations
18:00and looks at things with respect.
18:02He is a mature man.
18:04And he has made his statement
18:06about the picture.
18:08He said that there is a government
18:10and security issues.
18:12But he said that
18:14Mr. Khan and our people
18:16were saddened by the picture,
18:18which is okay.
18:20He also said that it is okay.
18:22These are the optics.
18:24Especially now that the 26th
18:26has been annulled, people are sad.
18:28They realize it.
18:31He also told us about the issues
18:33related to the Qur'an.
18:35He has made it clear
18:37that there will be no problem.
18:39The people of Pakistan
18:41understand this.
18:43No one does it for no reason.
18:45Mr. Sheikh, is there a date
18:47for the meeting with Mr. Khan?
18:49And after that,
18:51is there a date for the meeting
18:53with the Muzakirati committee?
18:55Not yet.
18:57I think it will be done before the next meeting.
19:00Because
19:02we have not seen
19:04any negativity from them
19:06that they do not want to meet.
19:08They said that they will facilitate it.
19:10The government committee
19:12has not made any demand.
19:14They have not demanded
19:16to stop social media
19:18or to stop their statements
19:20about the government.
19:22That's what they say
19:24and that's what PTI leaders
19:26are also saying.
19:29Look, there is no demand
19:31in our view.
19:33You took our mandate first.
19:35You have taken our people.
19:37You have been dragging our people
19:39for two years.
19:41We are not asking you for a deal.
19:43We are just asking you for justice
19:45so that the situation that has been
19:47created by the article 245
19:49that you have filed
19:51which is causing hatred
19:53between the public
19:55and the institutions
19:58I think that's good
20:00and that's all there is.
20:02Nothing else.
20:04Let's see what happens
20:06after that.
20:08Anyway, the Prime Minister
20:10has rejected this matter
20:12of deaths.
20:14Before that, there was a press briefing
20:16of DGISPR.
20:18There was no live ammunition.
20:20Everyone has cameras in their hands.
20:22The Prime Minister thinks
20:24that if they shoot,
20:26the Prime Minister will give a statement.
20:28What do you think?
20:30You don't say anything.
20:32I am going to take a break.
20:34Mr. Sheikh, thank you very much
20:36for joining me in the program.
20:38After the break, we will have
20:40Mr. Rana Sanaullah with us.
20:42Let's ask him a question
20:44about what the Prime Minister
20:46has said.
20:50Welcome back after the break.
20:52Two or three important things
20:55have happened today.
20:57First, there was a second meeting
20:59in which matters had to move forward
21:01quickly.
21:03There was a written demand
21:05but it didn't come.
21:07Secondly, today there was a meeting
21:09of the Apex Committee.
21:11After this meeting,
21:13Mr. Rana Sanaullah is with us.
21:15He is the senior leader of PMLN
21:17and the advisor to the Prime Minister
21:19on political issues.
21:21Thank you very much for joining us.
21:24When negotiations are going on,
21:26when the political issues
21:28are being put aside
21:30and the political instability
21:32is being reduced,
21:34at that time,
21:36on 26th November,
21:38he said that
21:40there was a political propaganda
21:42on the number of dead bodies.
21:44Mr. Rana, is this the right time?
21:46The Prime Minister
21:48has said
21:50that there was a propaganda.
21:53So,
21:55taking the advice
21:57of the Prime Minister
21:59otherwise,
22:01is it being said
22:03that
22:05there were
22:0712, 13 or 14 dead bodies?
22:09Who said
22:11that there were 20 dead bodies?
22:13After that,
22:15which party's people
22:17or leadership said
22:19that there were 278 dead bodies
22:22and they were killed?
22:24The dead bodies
22:26of the Palestinians
22:28which was a dead bodies
22:30ambulance,
22:32who took the picture
22:34of it?
22:36Who posted it
22:38on Facebook and media
22:40that people were killed
22:42in Islamabad.
22:44In 2019,
22:46two parties
22:48were involved in Nankana
22:50and there was a fight
22:52and the dead bodies
22:54were lying in the hospital.
22:56Who shared
22:58their picture
23:00that our workers
23:02were killed in Islamabad?
23:04Who posted
23:06the picture of 315 dead bodies?
23:08After that,
23:10who did this propaganda
23:12that thousands of people
23:14were martyred in Islamabad?
23:16If all this happened
23:19then if the Prime Minister
23:21has referred
23:23these things
23:25in a few words
23:27that this was propaganda,
23:29then I don't think
23:31that he has done the right thing.
23:33In fact, there should be
23:35more talk on this.
23:37The media and the people
23:39should talk about this.
23:41One day I will say
23:43that my hundreds and thousands
23:45of people were killed
23:48and four days later I will say
23:50that there were eight, six, ten
23:52and twelve people.
23:54There should not be
23:56any response
23:58to this.
24:00The Prime Minister
24:02has no right
24:04to indicate
24:06that this has happened
24:08and this should not happen.
24:10But Mr. Rahim,
24:12the problem is that
24:14you and PTI will keep talking about this.
24:17PTI is demanding
24:19to make a Judicial Commission
24:21and determine
24:23how many people were killed
24:25and what were the facts.
24:27Will this be a difficult task?
24:29Mr. Rahim, Judicial Commission?
24:33Judicial Commission
24:35is made
24:37to ascertain
24:39a factual position.
24:42The factual position
24:44was that
24:46a provincial government
24:48had raised the issue
24:50on the capital
24:52of the country
24:54in the form
24:56of an armed group.
24:58Is there
25:00any objection
25:02in this factual position
25:04that a Judicial Commission
25:06should be made
25:08to ascertain
25:10whether this was
25:12an attack or not.
25:14As far as
25:16firing is concerned
25:18and whether
25:20dead bodies should fall or not,
25:22this is a criminal
25:24or you can
25:26call it
25:28an army offence.
25:30A case should be filed
25:32and an FIR should be lodged
25:34if
25:36someone has been
25:39injured by firing
25:41or someone has been killed.
25:43An FIR should be lodged
25:45and the injured
25:47should come forward
25:49with an application.
25:51If someone has been killed
25:53his relatives should come forward
25:55or if he is from
25:57a community,
25:59the community should come forward
26:01to file an FIR
26:03and investigate it.
26:05Judicial Commission does not
26:08investigate it.
26:10It should be investigated
26:12and its trial should be
26:14carried out by
26:16a terrorist or a magistrate
26:18or whoever is appointed
26:20in that court.
26:22Sir, you are saying that
26:24a Judicial Commission should not be made
26:26but one more thing that
26:28CMKP's Ali Ameen Gandapur
26:30has said after EPICS committee
26:32is that terrorism
26:34which we all are concerned about
26:36should not be allowed
26:38to enter our borders.
26:40Since our government
26:42has gone,
26:44terrorism has spread.
26:46Their policy is wrong.
26:48The responsibility of the army
26:50and the federal government
26:52is on the border.
26:54It is their responsibility.
26:56It is my responsibility
26:58to control the border.
27:00It is their responsibility
27:02to control the border.
27:04You and I both know that
27:06their direct blame is on the army.
27:08Is this blame right?
27:10I think that
27:12this is also
27:14an extreme,
27:16the word of injustice
27:18is small, it is oppression.
27:20To say such a thing is oppression
27:22in this context
27:24or in this reference
27:26that you are seeing
27:28everyday
27:30that how beautiful
27:32and young
27:34our officers
27:36are.
27:38The parents
27:40who have lost them,
27:42the sisters and brothers
27:44who have lost them,
27:46what must be going on
27:48with them.
27:50Major Jishan
27:52who got married
27:54after 11 days
27:56and
27:58the rituals
28:00that they do.
28:02Two days later
28:04he was about to go home
28:06and his dead body was found
28:08in Kasur.
28:10Lieutenant Arsalan
28:12who was the only
28:14brother of three brothers
28:16in the village
28:18of Murree.
28:20This is
28:22a matter of yesterday,
28:2410 days ago,
28:26a month ago.
28:28In just one day
28:3016 of your
28:32soldiers
28:34were martyred.
28:36Despite this,
28:38to say that
28:40whose responsibility is it?
28:42How can
28:44more responsibility be fulfilled?
28:46Is there a greater
28:48responsibility than life
28:50that can be presented to fulfill
28:52a responsibility?
28:54And the conspiracies
28:56that have been happening
28:58for political
29:00benefit
29:02and political
29:04gain,
29:06the stories that have been made,
29:08the way people
29:10have been given
29:12the permission
29:14to come here,
29:16those things are different.
29:18But despite this,
29:20keeping myself to this extent,
29:22the soldiers,
29:24the great sacrifices
29:26that they are making
29:28in this war of terrorism,
29:30there is no greater
29:32responsibility than this.
29:34I understand what you are saying.
29:36There is no doubt
29:38that what more responsibility
29:40can be fulfilled than death.
29:42But let's come to the negotiations.
29:44You are a part of that committee.
29:46This time, on 2nd January,
29:48a written charter of demand
29:50was to come from PTI.
29:52Now, that written charter of demand
29:54has not come.
29:56It is being said that it will come
29:58in the next meeting.
30:00But PTI's leadership
30:02probably wants to meet
30:04Mr. Imran Khan
30:06and properly formulate
30:08that charter of demand
30:10in written form.
30:12So shouldn't we let
30:14Mr. Imran Khan meet
30:16on a regular basis
30:18so that all the discussions
30:20that were held yesterday
30:22after the committee meeting
30:24can be conveyed
30:26and I think
30:28they can be accessed.
30:30There should be access.
30:32There should be meetings.
30:34And because
30:36the negotiations
30:38are in progress,
30:40I don't think
30:42we should create
30:44any negative impression.
30:46It would have been
30:48better if they had
30:50given us their demands
30:52in writing.
30:54But now it seems
30:56that on 6th January
30:58an important case
31:00of 190 million pounds
31:02has to be decided.
31:04Do you see any impact
31:06of that on the negotiations?
31:08Look,
31:10it should not be done
31:12because no such thing
31:14has been decided in the negotiations.
31:16We did not say
31:18that you should end
31:20your civil disobedience
31:22and withdraw,
31:24then we will negotiate.
31:26Or that you should
31:28withdraw this threat,
31:30then we will negotiate.
31:32We said that whatever you are doing,
31:34you should do it.
31:36Whatever is happening
31:38in the other courts,
31:40you should do it.
31:42But we should sit down
31:44and negotiate.
31:46If everything is fine,
31:48then there is no need
31:50for negotiations.
31:52Negotiations are being
31:54carried out to
31:56rectify these things.
31:58So, if they are
32:00promoting civil disobedience,
32:02then they should do it.
32:04And if there is a case
32:06going on in a court
32:08and the court has to decide,
32:10then they should do it.
32:12But if
32:14on the other hand,
32:16in such a case,
32:18the negotiations
32:20are being stopped,
32:22then I think
32:24it will not be appropriate.
32:26And we have
32:28the hope,
32:30as we discussed yesterday,
32:32that the negotiations
32:34should not be stopped.
32:36If they had given us their demands
32:38in black and white,
32:40then maybe
32:42in the next meeting,
32:44we would have
32:46answered them
32:48and then the
32:50debate would have started.
32:52But they have promised
32:54in the next meeting
32:56that they will give us
32:58their Charter of Demand.
33:00But Mr. Imran,
33:02when will we meet next week?
33:04And when will we
33:06meet Mr. Imran Khan?
33:08We are trying to meet
33:10him on Saturday or tomorrow.
33:12But since Saturday is a holiday,
33:14we have decided to meet
33:16him on Monday or
33:18meet him on Monday.
33:20And after that,
33:22we will
33:24meet him
33:26on Wednesday or Thursday.
33:28Right, so Wednesday, Thursday.
33:30But Mr. Imran,
33:32some body language PTI leaders
33:34seem very confident.
33:36Mr. Sajzada Hamid Raza
33:38said that now it is time
33:40for us to smile.
33:42Is there anything wrong?
33:44No, nothing.
33:46There is nothing.
33:48The leadership
33:50of the establishment
33:52at this time
33:54should take care
33:56of the economy
33:58of the country.
34:00They should
34:02raise it
34:04and take the country
34:06out of economic turmoil.
34:08They are completely sincere.
34:10And apart from this,
34:12they do not have any agenda.
34:14Apart from this,
34:16they have
34:18said that
34:20politicians should sit and
34:22talk to each other.
34:24And they should
34:26agree on
34:28a common
34:30way.
34:32They have nothing to do with this.
34:34They do not
34:36want to get involved in this.
34:38Neither do they have a personal agenda.
34:40If they have
34:42a personal agenda,
34:44then
34:46the army chief
34:48will keep
34:50talking about
34:52your channels
34:54and TV
34:5624 hours a day.
34:58And
35:00his speeches
35:02will go on.
35:04But you have never
35:06heard his voice.
35:08Just like
35:10you are not hearing
35:12Bani PTI's voice and picture on TV,
35:14you have to understand
35:16that
35:18you will never
35:20hear him speaking
35:22on TV.
35:24Because
35:26they do not have a personal agenda.
35:28They have
35:30a personal agenda.
35:32And the country
35:34has reached
35:36the point of
35:38default.
35:40The country has
35:42come out of
35:44an emergency.
35:46But it still needs time
35:48and hard work to
35:50become stable.
35:52They are ready to
35:54contribute to this.
35:56They have been
35:58here for 70 years.
36:00They have no expectations.
36:02This will not happen.
36:04It is very simple.
36:06The last two press conferences
36:08of DGISPR
36:10were held a few days ago.
36:12And then on 8th May,
36:14you can listen to it.
36:16Every word of it
36:18helps me understand
36:20what I have understood.
36:22But Mr. Rana,
36:24it is a different story.
36:26The Prime Minister
36:28himself said
36:30that he had doubts.
36:32What are these doubts?
36:34And why?
36:36The doubts
36:38were
36:40that
36:42if
36:44all the
36:46segments of society,
36:48including opposition,
36:50all the political parties,
36:52support this,
36:54then
36:56Pakistan
36:58will
37:00be
37:02proven
37:04to be true.
37:06Pakistan will fly.
37:08But
37:10they have a misconception
37:12that
37:14everyone should
37:16support Pakistan in this project.
37:18But they have
37:20a misconception
37:22that the situation
37:24is getting worse.
37:26It has always been like this.
37:28If the IMF wants to
37:30give us a loan,
37:32people go to the IMF.
37:34In America,
37:36money is being
37:38poured like water.
37:40Lobbies
37:42are being bought.
37:44Lobbies are being bought
37:46to do propaganda against Pakistan.
37:48Trade
37:50benefits
37:52of the European
37:54Union
37:56are being
37:58forced to
38:00drop Pakistan.
38:02All these things
38:04create
38:06doubts.
38:08Mr. Rana, I am sorry,
38:10I am cutting you short.
38:12You are pointing to foreign
38:14conspiracies and American support.
38:16Donald Trump is coming
38:18in January.
38:20PTI's hopes are
38:22on him.
38:24He will become
38:26stronger.
38:28If he becomes
38:30stronger,
38:32we will face
38:34him.
38:36We are a sovereign
38:38country.
38:40We should not
38:42become like this.
38:44Lobbies
38:46are being
38:48bought.
38:50Indian
38:52lobbies are
38:54supporting them.
38:56They are our people
38:58who are doing
39:00all this against
39:02Pakistan.
39:04They are very
39:06powerful.
39:08It may be possible.
39:10Mr. Rana,
39:12let us
39:14listen to
39:16Azma Bukhari.
39:43Mr. Rana,
39:45the 19 people
39:47who were
39:49sentenced to 2 years
39:51were pardoned.
39:53At this time,
39:55the Punjab government
39:57has taken an official stance.
39:59Does the government
40:01agree with this?
40:03Is it right
40:05or not?
40:07Your opinion is different.
40:09No.
40:11I do not think
40:13that this is
40:15the case.
40:17This is the decision
40:19of the army chief.
40:21The army has
40:23its own system.
40:25People have
40:27apologised to them.
40:29They have
40:31taken a lenient view.
40:33This should be appreciated.
40:35Both punishments
40:37and rewards
40:39go hand in hand.
40:41Mr. Rana,
40:43you support
40:45this step.
40:47Am I correct?
40:49Yes.
40:51I think
40:53this step
40:55should be
40:57appreciated.
40:59Both
41:01punishments
41:03and rewards
41:05go hand in hand.
41:07Adal bil Ehsaan.
41:09It is
41:11very important
41:13to apologise
41:15for the punishment.
41:17Right, Mr. Rana.
41:19Thank you for joining me.
41:21We will now
41:23take a short break.
41:25We will be back after the break.
41:27See you after the break.
41:29Welcome back
41:31after the break.
41:33In Pakistan,
41:35Pakistan has
41:37played an important
41:39role in international politics.
41:41Pakistan has achieved
41:43an important milestone.
41:45Pakistan has
41:47become a temporary
41:49representative
41:51of the Pakistan
41:53Security Council.
41:55Pakistan has
41:57become a non-permanent
41:59member for the eighth time.
42:01This is a great achievement.
42:03Pakistan has become
42:05a non-permanent member
42:07of the Security Council.
42:09Since the first day of
42:112025, Pakistan has been
42:13a non-permanent member
42:15of the Security Council.
42:17Pakistan will
42:19remain a non-permanent member
42:21of the Security Council
42:23for two years.
42:25Five countries have
42:27veto power.
42:29America, Russia, France,
42:31and China.
42:33In June 2024,
42:35the members of the Security Council
42:37of the United Nations
42:39strongly supported Pakistan
42:41in the elections.
42:43Because of this support,
42:45Pakistan has become
42:47a non-permanent representative.
42:49There are 193 member states
42:51of the United Nations General Assembly.
42:53182 of them
42:55voted for Pakistan.
42:57Only 11 members
42:59did not vote.
43:01As a non-permanent member of the Security Council,
43:03Pakistan is playing
43:05this role for the eighth time.
43:07Pakistan has replaced
43:09Japan.
43:11Before this, Japan was a representative
43:13of Asia.
43:15Pakistan has become
43:17a non-permanent member
43:19of the Security Council
43:21of the United Nations for the eighth time.
43:23Before this,
43:25from 1952 to 1953,
43:27from 1968 to 1969,
43:29from 1976 to 1977,
43:31from 1983 to 1984,
43:33and then later on,
43:35from 1993 to 1994,
43:37from 2003 to 2004,
43:39and from 2012.
43:41Our last two-year stint
43:43was from 2012 to
43:452013,
43:47in which Pakistan has worked
43:49as a non-permanent member.
43:51The mandate of the Security Council
43:53is the establishment of world peace,
43:55and at this time,
43:57Israel has attacked
43:59five countries
44:01in its territory.
44:03This will be the agenda
44:05of Pakistan.
44:07Pakistan has been
44:09extremely vocal about Palestine.
44:11As a non-permanent member,
44:13Pakistan will continue
44:15to raise the voice of Palestine
44:17in the UN Security Council,
44:19in the same way
44:21it raised the voice
44:23of Pakistan in the UN Security Council.
44:25Pakistan's national goals
44:27are also very important.
44:29First, to get rid of terrorism.
44:31Then, the Kashmir issue,
44:33which is an international issue
44:35between Pakistan and India,
44:37in which the United Nations
44:39has played an important role.
44:41On the basis of the Resolutions
44:43of the Security Council of the United Nations,
44:45Kashmir was given the right of self-determination,
44:47which has been established
44:49by India since 2019,
44:51which has been established
44:53by the United Nations since 2019.
44:55Along with this,
44:57terrorism from Afghanistan
44:59has also become a big challenge
45:01for the security issues of Pakistan.
45:03Last year,
45:05there was a significant increase
45:07in the number of attacks from Afghanistan.
45:09It would have been different
45:11if only terrorists were involved.
45:13The TTP got the support
45:15of the Taliban.
45:17The TTP used their posters
45:19to attack Pakistan.
45:21So, the expectation
45:23is that
45:25Pakistan will raise
45:27its voice
45:29on the issue of terrorism.
45:31On the other hand,
45:33in Gaza,
45:35in the first three or four days
45:37of this year,
45:39Israel has martyred
45:41dozens of people
45:43in three days.
45:45Israel will not only attack
45:47Palestine overall,
45:49but will also attack Lebanon.
45:51The footage of Israel
45:53coming back from Lebanon
45:55clearly shows
45:57that Israel is destroying
45:59its infrastructure.
46:01Gaza,
46:03Palestine,
46:05Lebanon,
46:07Syria,
46:09Syria,
46:11Syria,
46:13Syria,
46:15Syria,
46:17Syria,
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