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Host:
- Aniqa Nisar

Guests:
- Sheikh Waqas Akram PTI
- Mian Javed Latif PMLN

"We made the call before date of President of Belarus's visit to Pakistan," said Sheikh Waqas Akram

Ali Amin Gandapur, PTI Protest Ko Lead Karengay Ya Nahi? - Sheikh Waqas Akram Told Everything

Sheikh Waqas Akram reacts to Bushra Bibi's big statement

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00:00Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf, which is ultimately going to be a protest, is about to begin.
00:20When I was coming towards the office, I saw containers on different roads of Islamabad.
00:26And I saw that each lane is open, but tonight, the chances of closing the lanes are very high.
00:33The residents of Islamabad and Rawalpindi will once again be confined to their homes.
00:38And who should be blamed for this? I still don't understand.
00:42Those who are coming to protest and are coming with a lot of opportunities,
00:46or those who, instead of tackling in any other way, keep containers every time.
00:52For now, there was also talk of negotiations, but now it seems that the negotiations are getting worse.
00:58Barrister Gauhar has given a clarification to the claim that Rauf Hassan had made,
01:02that our negotiations are at a higher level than Mohsin Naqvi.
01:08Please listen to that clarification first.
01:11Yesterday, Rauf Hassan said in my program that negotiations are at a higher level than Mohsin Naqvi.
01:15Look, I didn't even say at what level, but we had a very good interaction.
01:19Mohsin Naqvi is a proper interaction.
01:23So ultimately, that claim is gone, that negotiations are at a higher level than Mohsin Naqvi.
01:30But yesterday, in my program, Rana Zanawala clearly said that there was no conversation.
01:34At the time when the Jalsa was held, there was a conversation.
01:39Please listen to the level at which there was a conversation.
01:41Therefore, there was no conversation with the government.
01:46The level at which there was a conversation with the establishment,
01:51when they held their Jalsa, that is their level.
01:55At that level, there was a conversation.
01:58So I think that at this level, there must have been a conversation.
02:04Similarly, the Information Minister, Atta Taro, has also clarified whether negotiations are taking place or not.
02:10Because there was a tug-of-war on whether negotiations are taking place or not.
02:14But what does the Information Minister say?
02:32Now, after the decision of Islamabad High Court,
02:34in which it has been clearly stated that there will be no Jalsa in Islamabad,
02:38despite this, Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf is ready to come to Islamabad with its own arrangements.
02:46The situation in KPK is in front of you.
02:48The situation in Parachinar is still tense.
02:51And the tension is increasing.
02:53On the other hand, there is also tension towards the western border.
02:55But in Islamabad, Ali Amin Gandapur, who is the CM of KPK,
02:59whose entire attention should be on the deteriorating situation of KPK at this time,
03:03what is he saying?
03:08We all have to leave.
03:09We all, God willing, on 20th November,
03:11till D-Chowk, Mr. Ibrahim Khan has announced that the negotiations are complete,
03:17we all have to reach there.
03:19And we will not leave until our negotiations are complete.
03:23I am warning this government.
03:25If there is no agreement, if there is no agreement, then this government will be responsible for it.
03:30This time, the government also seems to have decided to do heavy-handedness.
03:35Yesterday, Mr. Rana Sinhaullah confirmed this in my program.
03:38But today, Mr. Mohsin Laqvi, who was talking to the police,
03:41it was also very clear in him that here it is not that they are doing heavy-handedness,
03:44they are doing some unlawful protest.
03:46Whoever comes, he will be arrested.
03:49This time again, a head of state, the president of Belarus, is coming.
03:53His delegation is coming on 24th and on 25th, the president of Belarus is coming himself.
03:57We have to secure our Islamabad.
03:59All of you have to ensure it.
04:01This time, whoever comes, he has to be arrested.
04:05Whoever violates in Islamabad, he has to be arrested.
04:09Your lives are as dear to us as someone else's.
04:12You have to wear your helmet and all your belongings.
04:15No one has to be careless.
04:19Now, on the one hand, there is the situation of Vifaq v. KPK.
04:22On the other hand, voices have also started to rise from Punjab
04:25that what should the CM of KPK or the government of KPK be doing.
04:30Keep this in mind that what is the situation of this region in Punjab.
04:33The government of Punjab should be focused on that.
04:36But what message is Azma Bukhari Sahiba giving to the CM of KPK or the government of KPK?
04:39Listen to that too.
04:41The area of Kurram and Parachinar is a very beautiful area.
04:45There has been a fire there for four days.
04:47But how dare the PM, who is sleeping after drinking Sattu,
04:50who only cares about how to set fire to Vifaq on 24th November.
04:55He only cares about this.
04:56He only cares that my people are dying.
04:58Bullets are being fired against each other.
05:00There is a fire.
05:01I have to see him.
05:02He has no concern.
05:03He is sitting with Bushra Devi.
05:04And there is no preparation for the riot there.
05:06Can KPK not be seen burning?
05:07We are in pain sitting here.
05:09They have formed a force called Afghani National Youth Force.
05:13Who will also have weapons.
05:15At this time, Imran Khan is desperate to get the dead bodies.
05:20We have with us right now,
05:22Sheikh Waqas Sakram, Secretary of Information, Pakistan Movement for Justice.
05:25Sheikh Sahab, thank you very much for joining me in the program.
05:27Sheikh Sahab, first of all, tell me,
05:29there is a sequence.
05:31Mohsin Nagvi Sahab is saying that the President of Belarus is coming again.
05:35Earlier, in 2014, the Chinese President was coming.
05:38And now, the most recent thing is the SCO.
05:40So, the government is making a sequence
05:43that whenever a head of state has to come,
05:46whenever a dignitary has to come,
05:48whenever there is an event,
05:49you protest at that time.
05:51Is it planned?
05:52Is it planned?
05:53Or does it happen by chance?
05:56This is nonsense.
05:57Whatever the government is doing,
05:59it's just a coincidence.
06:00You can see that when the SCO was announced,
06:03the party,
06:05in reference to the request of friendly countries,
06:07and the SCO's announcement,
06:09when friends requested on that matter,
06:11it was postponed.
06:16Our protest in Multan,
06:19there was a cricket match in Multan,
06:21with England.
06:23Because of the cricket match,
06:25we took the protest of Multan to Mahabalipur.
06:29So, this is a coincidence.
06:31What is there to think more than this?
06:33When Khan gave the final call,
06:35at that time, he informed us,
06:37the foreign minister informed Imran Khan,
06:39or he told us in the newspapers
06:41when the President of Belarus is coming and when he is not coming.
06:44He talks like a child.
06:45There is no life in him.
06:48Let's clarify this, Mr. Sheikh.
06:50You said that on the request of friends,
06:52the SCO was being submitted,
06:54at that time, we postponed our protest.
06:56Which friends were these?
06:58Because just now, one friend, whom Mr. Khan…
07:00No, listen to me.
07:01The friends were the countries,
07:02and at that time, Mr. Raja also said this in his statement.
07:06And in the official statement that came from us,
07:09we also said that the friends were at the behest of the countries.
07:11We are talking about the countries.
07:12I am talking about the countries.
07:13Which countries were they?
07:14Please clarify this.
07:15We would not like to disclose it.
07:17We did not do the bipolicy at that time,
07:19so you will not do it either.
07:20Was Saudi Arabia included in it overall?
07:23Or was it a statement from China?
07:25Or you will not clarify this?
07:27Saudi Arabia was not included in it.
07:29All right.
07:30All right.
07:31Now tell me,
07:32it is 24th November,
07:33tomorrow is 24th November.
07:34The unfortunate thing here is that
07:35the government is also in lockdown in Islamabad.
07:38You have also decided to come there.
07:41What is going to happen tomorrow?
07:43What are you seeing?
07:44Is there going to be a collision between the government and Pakistan?
07:47No, no.
07:48Collision?
07:49What collision this time?
07:50We think that we have a peaceful march,
07:54which will go in a peaceful way.
07:56There is no collision.
07:58Our people were sleeping,
08:00are sleeping and will sleep.
08:02The rubber bullets and shells of the gun are with them,
08:04not with us.
08:06Your own media has covered it.
08:08The DSNGs of all your channels were there.
08:12If there is anything like this,
08:13then please show it to us,
08:15that our people have hit them with something.
08:17It will happen,
08:18because the journalists were with us,
08:19even at the last time of that march.
08:21There is no such thing.
08:22They are sleeping people.
08:23They are going to do a right exercise of their peaceful protest.
08:26Don't bother them.
08:27Don't stop the roads,
08:28don't close the roads,
08:29don't throw garbage,
08:31don't spread nails,
08:32don't shoot rubber bullets.
08:34People will go easily.
08:35You see,
08:36near the sanctuary,
08:38if you look at the four protests,
08:41there was a wall of Pak Army soldiers.
08:45Thousands of workers are coming.
08:47You must have seen that video.
08:49It is there.
08:50They came,
08:51with great discipline,
08:53they came out of the way of the Pak Army soldiers.
08:56They left.
08:57Someone misbehaved,
08:59someone, God forbid,
09:00said bad things about our Pak Army soldiers.
09:03And I am talking about the Pak Army,
09:05in front of whom these non-league people want to stand.
09:08So,
09:09I think that video
09:11is a great example of the disciplined crowd of PTI.
09:15Our youth,
09:17our KP people,
09:18the people of Punjab are disciplined.
09:19They don't want to collide.
09:21They just want to exercise their right to protest.
09:24Which should be given to them.
09:26They should be bothered.
09:27They should protest peacefully.
09:28Right.
09:29Everyone has the right to peaceful protest.
09:31That is given in the constitution.
09:33It has parameters,
09:34certainly,
09:35obviously,
09:36that should not happen.
09:38Or you are saying that such a thing will not happen.
09:40Anyway,
09:41you talked about it last time.
09:42Last time,
09:43some such videos came.
09:44And the tear gas shells of KPK police were also caught.
09:47Then,
09:48CM KPK had his own video.
09:50I don't know,
09:51do you have?
09:52I will send it to you right now.
09:53It was going on.
09:54It was on social media.
09:55KP police,
09:56one minute.
09:57If you have a video of someone running KP police shells,
10:00do send it.
10:01We will see.
10:02I will send you a video of CM KPK ordering you.
10:05But tell me,
10:06is CM KPK coming,
10:07Mr. Sheikh,
10:08or not?
10:09He is coming.
10:10Why isn't he coming?
10:11What is this?
10:12He is coming.
10:13He is leading his province.
10:14He is the president of the province
10:16and elected chief executive of the party.
10:19Okay.
10:20So,
10:21the situation of KPK,
10:22now the government,
10:23and even the Punjab government,
10:25I mean,
10:26if you stop only till Wifaq,
10:27then the matter is different.
10:28The Punjab government is also saying,
10:29look,
10:30there is fire in your province.
10:31There is fire in Kurram.
10:32There are people being martyred in Parachinar.
10:34There is a strange situation.
10:35Terrorism is increasing.
10:36And here,
10:37the CM is not worried about that.
10:38He is coming here
10:39to get Imran Khan released.
10:40What is your response to this?
10:41I think,
10:42the Punjab government,
10:43those who go to the homes of PTI workers
10:45and then kill them by throwing bricks at them while running.
10:48If the innocent citizens were killed by throwing bricks at them,
10:51if they were given the opportunity,
10:53they were given the opportunity
10:55to attack other provinces.
10:57I think,
10:58this is not their headache.
11:00I think,
11:01this is not their headache.
11:03Pakistan belongs to all of us.
11:05And KPK belongs to KPK people.
11:07And KPK people understand their pain
11:09more than a minister of Punjab.
11:12I think,
11:13and this is a political drama
11:15that they have been running all day.
11:17Every minister has been press-conferenced
11:19after hours.
11:20And every channel is press-conferenced.
11:22From where our response goes,
11:23it doesn't work that way.
11:24Every press-conference.
11:26But their press-conference
11:27is being shown.
11:28You also know,
11:29I also know,
11:30the whole story.
11:31Now, let's talk about Kurum.
11:33Kurum, let me tell you.
11:35Our two ministers are still present there.
11:38Even now.
11:39They have gone there this morning.
11:42Our MPs of this province
11:44are also present there
11:46for more than half a decade.
11:48They have convened a meeting this morning.
11:50They have convened a meeting this evening.
11:52And a round is being held in the morning.
11:54The full representation of KPK political party
11:56is present there.
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15:42Mr. Sheikh, are the Afghani people protesting for the rights of the citizens of Pakistan?
15:52Or are they taking part in our political campaigns?
15:54Is it right for the PTI to use the Afghani people?
15:57Please clarify this.
15:59The PTI has taken crores of votes.
16:03And you must know that even after the formulation of Form 47,
16:07the majority of the MPAs and MNAs are for the PTI.
16:11PTI is not protesting for the first time.
16:15PTI does not need the Afghani people.
16:17If someone has come here generation-wise,
16:20and children have grown up in Pakistan,
16:24if you see one or two or a few people protesting,
16:28then they are Pakistanis.
16:30What Mr. Shehrabzad has said is not wrong.
16:34He is right.
16:35He has not said anything controversial.
16:37A woman who claims to have made a squad,
16:41who is the Prime Minister of Punjab,
16:43I don't think she should be talking about this.
16:46Mr. Barrister will answer her contemporary questions.
16:50But now that you have asked your question,
16:52I will answer it.
16:54In Pakistan, especially in Punjab,
16:56you should look at the sectarian fight.
17:02And the long-time affiliation of Pakistan with Muslim League Noor,
17:07even in this election,
17:09you should review that.
17:11The people here are with the PTI in such a way
17:15that they don't need to make a squad of any Afghani or non-Afghani.
17:20The people here are with the CM.
17:22They are going with him.
17:23They are going openly.
17:24You have cameras.
17:25You can see.
17:26Lastly, but not the least,
17:28after Bushra Bibi's statement,
17:30they have been cut off from the list.
17:32FIRs have been filed against them.
17:34Mr. Sheikh, after her statement,
17:36a case has been filed against Bushra Bibi in Okara.
17:40And they are being criticized by the government
17:44that you are trying to ruin our relations with Dost Muali.
17:48It is a conspiracy against Pakistan.
17:50A statement has come from Mr. Khan.
17:52But Faisal Wada says,
17:53after Bibi's dangerous statement,
17:56as I said,
17:57Mr. Khan's political secrets will be lost.
18:00The same is happening.
18:01Despite the High Court's ban,
18:03if someone comes to Islamabad on the 24th,
18:05then under the insult of the court,
18:06the seat of MNA and MPA will not have to be lost.
18:09In fact, the government is ready to wash like a sink.
18:13Now, the comments on the 24th of November come later.
18:16But that Bushra Bibi is digging a grave for her own Mr. Khan.
18:20How does PTI view this?
18:22Mr. Sheikh.
18:23This is a nonsense statement.
18:26Whoever gave it,
18:27I don't go to any individual.
18:29Whoever gave it,
18:30this is nonsense.
18:31The first thing is that
18:32it is not appropriate to turn things from context to context.
18:38The second thing is,
18:39and I am talking about Moonleaks,
18:41they deliver a message,
18:43a video,
18:44after that,
18:45all the ministers start asking questions.
18:47Government, court, clerics,
18:49they start giving fatwas.
18:51Mr. Wazgir Azam gets very angry.
18:54And along with that,
18:55we have some friends,
18:56anchors,
18:57who are aligned with the government.
18:59There are some,
19:00I don't say all of them,
19:01there are a lot of good people.
19:02But there are a few,
19:03who have made a big show of it.
19:06Just,
19:07to divert our attention from the 24th of November,
19:09Saudi Arabia,
19:10with that land,
19:12we have a relationship of belief,
19:14a relationship of spirituality,
19:16of justice,
19:17and every Pakistani.
19:18And I think,
19:19that relationship,
19:20is not a result of any statement.
19:22It was not connected to it,
19:23nor did it have anything to do with it.
19:25And that statement,
19:26was given in some context,
19:28it was that,
19:29between General Bajwa Imran Khan,
19:31and the countries,
19:32between the Islamic brother countries,
19:34regarding Imran Khan,
19:35regarding spreading misunderstandings,
19:36they kept giving statements.
19:37So we should not get into this.
19:39When we have given a statement,
19:40when you have given a statement,
19:41with so much respect,
19:42to our opponents,
19:43and you have given it to us,
19:45then you should accept our statements,
19:47with the same level of authenticity.
19:49Sheikh sahab,
19:50I will give your statement,
19:52to PMLN,
19:53and I will give PMLN's statement,
19:55to you.
19:56I am talking,
19:57I can't give your statement to you.
19:59Yes.
20:00I mean,
20:01let me talk,
20:02and then you can talk.
20:03You are talking,
20:04you can talk.
20:05Yes, yes.
20:06I am talking,
20:07and in between,
20:08I need to tell you,
20:09that your statement,
20:10in a little while,
20:11I am sitting on the phone,
20:12I will talk to you.
20:13In a little while,
20:14I will talk to PMLN's people.
20:15I am telling you,
20:16that I am sitting on the phone,
20:17so when you speak,
20:18then my voice,
20:19in that,
20:20that happens.
20:21If we speak one by one,
20:22then the voice will be correct.
20:23I am requesting this from you.
20:24I am also requesting you,
20:25I am also requesting you,
20:26Sheikh sahab,
20:27that your statement,
20:28to them,
20:29and their statement,
20:30to you.
20:31That is my job,
20:32I will do my job.
20:33Now tell me,
20:34You have given your statement,
20:35and you have given your answer.
20:36We don't accept that statement,
20:37we have given you our statement,
20:38we have given you our statement,
20:39you give it to them.
20:40Right.
20:41Lastly,
20:42the discussion about your
20:43Muzakirat,
20:44Sheikh sahab,
20:45that Muzakirat is happening,
20:46they are doing very well,
20:47have they completely
20:48stopped at this time,
20:49or is there still
20:50a possibility,
20:51because there are
20:52only a few hours left.
20:53Look,
20:54people have a little
20:55issue here,
20:56they think that
20:57engagement is called
20:58Muzakirat in Urdu.
20:59Engagement is
21:00relationships,
21:01and when engagement
21:02or Muzakirat,
21:03means the change
21:04in the dialogue,
21:05that changes
21:06in the transformation,
21:07that transformation
21:08takes a little time.
21:09Our engagement
21:10has not been
21:11transformed into
21:12dialogue.
21:13Our dialogue
21:14hasn't even started,
21:15so it's a long story
21:16to continue and
21:17end it.
21:18People confuse
21:19engagement with
21:20dialogues.
21:21Makes sense,
21:22makes sense.
21:23Thank you very much
21:24Sheikh Waqas Akram
21:25sahab,
21:26you have joined us.
21:27We will now
21:28go to the break,
21:29and after the break
21:30we will have
21:31with us
21:32Mian Javed Latif
21:33sahab.
21:34See you after the break.
21:35Welcome back
21:36Mian Javed Latif
21:37sahab is present
21:38from PMLN.
21:39Thank you very much
21:40Mian sahab,
21:41you have joined us.
21:42Mian sahab,
21:43the government
21:44is so poor
21:45that the PTI
21:46gives the call
21:47for protest,
21:48and here
21:49the containers
21:50are kept
21:51in Islamabad
21:52and Rawalpindi
21:53as if
21:54the residents
21:55of Islamabad
21:56and Rawalpindi
21:57were not given
21:58the right to
21:59movement
22:00which is
22:01the constitution
22:02of Pakistan.
22:03The entire
22:04motorways are
22:05closed
22:06and the
22:07buses
22:08have to be
22:09stopped.
22:10If you say
22:11that there
22:12will be
22:131500 people
22:14coming,
22:15then why
22:16these
22:17containers?
22:18I think
22:19that the
22:20government
22:21is not
22:22poor.
22:23It is
22:24a poor
22:25state.
22:26There
22:27are poor
22:28people.
22:29If the
22:30government
22:31is spending
22:32millions
22:33to stop
22:34the
22:35protest,
22:36then
22:37our
22:38state
22:39is
22:40also
22:41spending
22:42millions.
22:43So
22:44you see
22:45what kind
22:46of joke
22:47it is
22:48that
22:49no
22:50institution,
22:51no
22:52policy
22:53maker,
22:54no
22:55one is
22:56listening.
22:57Tell me
22:58that if
22:59this
23:00protest
23:01ends
23:02tomorrow,
23:03what
23:04action
23:05will
23:06you
23:07take?
23:08Tell me
23:09how long
23:10will
23:11this
23:12protest
23:13go on?
23:14How
23:15long
23:16will
23:17this
23:18protest
23:19go on?
23:20How
23:21long
23:22will
23:23this
23:24protest
23:25go on?
23:26How
23:27long
23:28will
23:29this
23:30protest
23:31go on?
23:33How
23:34long
23:35will
23:36this
23:37protest
23:38go on?
23:39Tell
23:40me
23:41how
23:42long
23:43will
23:44this
23:45protest
23:46go
23:47on?
23:48How
23:49long
23:50will
23:51this
23:52protest
23:53go on?
23:54So on the words of the world powers, or you see that the kind of terrorism throughout Pakistan
24:04and someone has heard, someone has asked the answer from the minister of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa
24:10that for 12 years, for 10-12 years, your Jama'at has ruled in that province.
24:15So this incident that has happened in Karam, has happened in Parachinar,
24:20to whom today they are saying that this is a very old issue.
24:23I was listening to Rauf Hassan.
24:25So why didn't you dress in 10-12 years?
24:28Then there are so many atrocities there.
24:31I understand what you are saying.
24:34A little while ago, Sheikh Abubakar Sakram Sahib was also saying in my program that this is an old issue.
24:38This is not a current issue.
24:39There is no doubt that KPK is safe.
24:43After the 18th amendment, KPK is with the province.
24:46But the federal government cannot be exempted from this responsibility.
24:49The Interior Minister had to go today.
24:51The Interior Minister can definitely speak here to stop the protest.
24:56It will be necessary in its own place.
24:58But it was his responsibility to go to Parachinar.
25:01Here he said that the weather has become bad.
25:04Was the weather bad all day?
25:05This question also arises.
25:06Sir, should he have gone?
25:09Look, if after the 18th amendment, as you are saying,
25:1480%, 70%, 100% is also the responsibility of the province.
25:19Still, loyalty cannot be exempted.
25:23This is Pakistan.
25:24It is also our province.
25:26But I have to say that for 10-12 years,
25:30one Jamaat has ruled in that province.
25:34And this issue is recurring in that province.
25:37So why was it not addressed?
25:39And then I have to ask the second question.
25:42The corpses are lying there.
25:44And you are not applying ointment there.
25:47And you are in Islamabad to pick up new corpses.
25:50Or to drop new corpses.
25:52You are yearning to reach there.
25:55And I say, look,
25:57With these protests,
26:00and what they say,
26:02that we will take,
26:03just now I was listening,
26:05the one who was addressing you from PTI,
26:09Sheikh Sahib,
26:11he was saying that,
26:13till then we will not get up from there,
26:16until our three demands are fulfilled.
26:19In that big demand,
26:20which he was giving importance to,
26:24that everyone should be released,
26:27the prisoners.
26:28Tell me,
26:30did Anika do it on 9th, 10th,
26:32or did Javed Lateef do it?
26:33But Mian Sahib,
26:34I am sorry I am cutting you short,
26:36but one thing is very clear,
26:37that if they protest peacefully,
26:39and you are repeatedly saying that
26:41they will do something wrong somewhere,
26:44you said they will pick up the corpses,
26:46but from there they are continuously saying
26:48that we will protest peacefully.
26:50Abhishek Waqas Akram was also saying that
26:52we will not have any kind of weaponry with us.
26:54Shandana Gulzar has also said that
26:56we will go peacefully.
26:57There will not be any kind of violence.
26:59So if they are giving this guarantee,
27:01then why are you saying that
27:03they are coming here to pick up a corpse,
27:05this is your allegation.
27:07First I will give you two examples,
27:10then I will come to your question.
27:12Tell me,
27:13when Imran Khan himself came in 2022,
27:17to climb Islamabad,
27:21was the Supreme Court's decision not there,
27:23that they should not protest in Islamabad?
27:28Was the Supreme Court's judgment not there,
27:32that they will come and go for so long,
27:35then who violated it?
27:37Was the Supreme Court's decision not there,
27:39that they will not come to D-Chowk?
27:41They came and set it on fire.
27:43And this has been going on since 2014.
27:47From 2014 till now,
27:49all the protests that Imran Khan has made,
27:52or his Jamaat has made,
27:54there has been no peaceful protest.
27:56Then tell me,
27:57Imran Khan himself admits that
27:59we have been using the petrol pump
28:01with all due respect.
28:03Before this,
28:05no Jamaat has used the petrol pump
28:09for 75 years.
28:11Before this,
28:12no one has used weapons.
28:14Before this,
28:15no leader has freed the prisoners from the police van.
28:19Before this,
28:20no one has attacked the PTB.
28:22Before this,
28:23no one has attacked the Assembly.
28:25Before this,
28:26no one has attacked the Prime Minister's House.
28:29Despite all these incidents,
28:32if someone teaches us,
28:34or advises us,
28:36that we are completely peaceful.
28:38If this is called peaceful,
28:40then you tell me,
28:42what is called an attack?
28:44One second.
28:45One second.
28:46One second.
28:47Please.
28:48Tell me,
28:49in Zaman Park,
28:51the result of 8-9 months of training
28:55was that
28:57it was done in 9-10.
28:59Tell me,
29:00in a province,
29:02since 8-9 months,
29:04training has been going on.
29:07What is the result of that?
29:09In the whole of Pakistan?
29:11This is a very big allegation
29:13that there is training going on
29:15to attack Wifaq.
29:17Until we give evidence,
29:19this will remain an allegation.
29:21You can also be accused of this,
29:23that there is training going on in Wifaq
29:25to attack PTI or KPK.
29:27This allegation,
29:29without any proof,
29:31is completely baseless.
29:33No, no.
29:34This allegation,
29:35or this comparison,
29:37is not appropriate.
29:39In Zaman Park,
29:41training was going on in Zaman Park.
29:43Even then, I used to say,
29:45didn't the Aadhaar know?
29:47Didn't the people sitting in the Aadhaar know?
29:50Didn't the agencies know?
29:52And what I am saying today,
29:54that in the whole province,
29:56the way the minister of the province
29:58talks,
30:00that if someone fires a bullet,
30:02we will answer with 10.
30:04Have you ever heard such words
30:06from a minister of another province?
30:09Then you tell me,
30:11that the conversations they have every day,
30:13that is not a way to incite training.
30:16Even then, if someone is telling me
30:18that we should give evidence,
30:20then God forbid,
30:22if something happens,
30:24then you will get evidence.
30:26Tell me,
30:28PTI is coming here on 25th.
30:30You have already closed the roads.
30:32The problem is already there.
30:34Sorry, on 24th.
30:36But the problem is,
30:38you also close the internet.
30:40Is there no other way?
30:42You say, we have to move Pakistan forward.
30:44We will promote freelancers.
30:47We will provide internet services to the world.
30:50Every other day, the internet is shut here.
30:52Every other day, the Wi-Fi is shut here.
30:54The roads are closed.
30:55Our DSNG has not reached yet.
30:57So, will PMLN progress in this way?
30:59No, Anika,
31:01I fully agree with your question.
31:04But I said this at the beginning of my conversation,
31:07that this protest,
31:09this call,
31:11is this the last one?
31:13And after this,
31:15is there a guarantee that
31:17this call will not be a protest?
31:19And how many calls came within 8 months
31:21and how many protests took place?
31:23Then, what you are saying,
31:25I am saying this as a Pakistani,
31:27with a sad heart, like you,
31:29that tell me,
31:31that from Punjab or Pakistan,
31:33the way the roads have been blocked,
31:35the way the economy was already bad,
31:37it will be worse.
31:39And people have been put in trouble.
31:41Is there a guarantee
31:43that until they
31:45don't reach their limits,
31:47until the destruction of Pakistan
31:49in their minds,
31:51in their thinking,
31:53or in their agenda,
31:55it will not be fulfilled.
31:57They will continue to walk.
31:59So, the state institutions should think
32:01that this work should stop now.
32:03Or I give a suggestion
32:05that if the institutions
32:07don't want to stop
32:09the illegal activities,
32:11the violence,
32:13then they should say,
32:15that those who will come together,
32:17those who will be powerful people,
32:19they will make their own law,
32:21and the law of Pakistan,
32:23they should cover it
32:25and throw it in a trash can.
32:27Mr. Mian, I am sorry to cut you short,
32:29but you are talking about the institutions again and again.
32:31They are under the Prime Minister of Pakistan.
32:33The Prime Minister of Pakistan
32:35and his community,
32:37his allies,
32:39should manage this properly.
32:41If something goes wrong,
32:43then the Prime Minister of Pakistan
32:45or the head of the state,
32:47who is the President,
32:49can you easily take this responsibility
32:51and put it on someone else's shoulders?
32:53You will have to take the responsibility
32:55or resign from the government.
32:57One second.
32:59I was listening
33:01to the Prime Minister,
33:03he said that
33:05in the name of Shariah,
33:07our brothers,
33:09real brothers,
33:11and I am not saying this,
33:13the followers of Saudi Arabia,
33:15the rulers
33:17who always live,
33:19they always say
33:21that we are the real brothers
33:23of Pakistan.
33:25You are saying that
33:27those who are being accused,
33:29we will break their hands
33:31who will raise their hands.
33:33Who has stopped you?
33:35It's been four days now,
33:37I haven't seen anyone break their hands.
33:39Then what should I tell you
33:41that all the friends
33:43of Pakistan,
33:45Imran Khan
33:47did not target
33:49them one by one
33:51and then
33:53is it wrong that
33:55all the friends
33:57of Pakistan
33:59or the foundations of Pakistan,
34:01you tell me about PIA,
34:03what were the words
34:05of the members
34:07of their cabinet
34:09and those who were
34:11breathing PIA,
34:13you tell me.
34:15The question of their government
34:17is from them,
34:19but my question to you is
34:21that the responsibility is still on your shoulders.
34:23What did Saud say about China?
34:25What did Zulfi Bukhari
34:27say about China?
34:29What did Imran Khan
34:31say about Saudi Arabia
34:33or about our other
34:35friend countries?
34:37What did Afzal Marwat
34:39say about Saudi Arabia?
34:41His wife said it today.
34:43So tell me
34:45that at one time,
34:47PTI is categorically denying
34:49that the name of Saudi Arabia
34:51has not even been talked about.
34:53This thing is happening
34:55on the head of Busha Bibi
34:57with an out-of-context government.
34:59If you have his video,
35:01then play it and listen to it again.
35:03I have played it,
35:05but the name is not in it.
35:07Then you should know
35:09who he has spoken about
35:11and at what time.
35:13The thing is that
35:15who has given them the right
35:17that if Imran Khan comes out,
35:19then he should wave a cypher
35:21to America,
35:23or he should say
35:25that a new president has come
35:27and he will remove Imran Khan.
35:29Sometimes he is not a slave
35:31and sometimes he becomes a slave
35:33and begs from them.
35:35Sometimes they want to give
35:37an Islamic touch,
35:39and they give a Sharia touch.
35:41Where should I go?
35:43Look, the question of their
35:45governments is from PTI.
35:47If you think that
35:49something is being mismanaged
35:51and the government is not able
35:53to govern,
35:55then what is the point of being
35:57in the government?
35:59In 1997,
36:01I met two-thirds of my community.
36:03In 2013,
36:05I met two-thirds of my community.
36:07In 1997,
36:09Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif was elected.
36:11In 2013, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif was elected.
36:13At that time,
36:15he was given a 25-year sentence
36:17for the work he did
36:19to make Pakistan unimaginable.
36:21for the work he did to make Pakistan unimaginable.
36:23for the work he did to make Pakistan unimaginable.
36:25Today,
36:27he has started CPAC.
36:29Today,
36:31he has started CPAC.
36:33Imran Khan has died
36:35in 3.5-4 years.
36:37Imran Khan has died
36:39in 3.5-4 years.
36:41He made Pakistan lonely in the world.
36:43He has ruined moral values.
36:45For him,
36:47letters are written,
36:49for him, states are created,
36:51but why don't they create them for us?
36:53You may remember the letter
36:55to Qatar.
36:57Qatar's letter
36:59You may remember the letter to Qatar.
37:01Wait a minute.
37:03I am
37:05a Pakistani.
37:07I have
37:09repeatedly
37:11I have pleaded with Mr. Hashir that many things need to be said today because lies are being spoken to such an extent that it seems to be the truth.
37:23Therefore, you should state the facts in the interest of the nation today.
37:29Earlier, you did not speak in the interest of the nation or state that I should be hurt.
37:35But I do not think it is necessary for me to say such things.
37:41But today it will have to be said that our friend Mamalik also did not treat Nawaz Sharif well under the pressure of the international powers.
37:53Which friend are you talking about, Mr. Mian?
37:56Because a while ago you were saying that Bushra Bini has spoiled relations with our friend Mamalik.
38:01Now you yourself are accusing your friend Mamalik, Mr. Mian.
38:04Listen to me. Listen to me. Listen to me.
38:07If you want to compare, then do it with full honesty.
38:11Then you tell me what happened when Nawaz Sharif served for Pakistan and what happened to Nawaz Sharif.
38:20I am telling you what Imran Khan did for Pakistan in four years.
38:27He destroyed Pakistan.
38:29But which countries are standing for him?
38:32But which countries are you talking about, Mr. Mian?
38:36I am saying that the pressure of the international powers is such that even our friend Mamalik becomes weak.
38:46I am telling the truth.
38:48Tell me that the financial institutions are not using them as weapons against us.
38:55Very interesting.
38:56And on whose behalf are they doing it?
38:58For what reason are they doing it?
39:00Are you also pointing to America, Mr. Mian?
39:04Look.
39:05Those who used to say that we are slaves.
39:08Today we are begging as their slaves.
39:11Then you say that we were slaves at that time.
39:15Even today we need slavery for power.
39:19Then don't say that we are for the nation.
39:21We are for the violation of the constitution.
39:24We are for democracy.
39:25Those who are imprisoning us.
39:27Got your point, Mr. Mian.
39:39Before leaving, Mr. Mian, last question.
39:42You said that you are negotiating with them.
39:44Are you aware of any such negotiations?
39:47Because from there, the resources have denied that there is no negotiation.
39:51Those who want to negotiate, do it with the government.
39:53Look, listen to me.
39:55I don't have any information.
39:57I don't have any source.
39:59According to Rauf Hassan.
40:01According to the senior most member of their PTI.
40:05He was saying today on different channels.
40:09That our negotiations are going on.
40:11Not with the government.
40:13What is said, you are negotiating with the Interior Minister.
40:18They say no.
40:19Mr. Mian, his clarification has come.
40:21Barrister Gauhar has said that we are negotiating on the level of Mohsin Naqvi.
40:24I don't say that.
40:25But thank you very much, Mr. Mian Javed Lati.
40:27For joining me in the program.
40:28We will go towards the break.
40:29After the break, we will talk.
40:30We are in these issues.
40:32And in reality, the issue of life and death is in Gaza.
40:35And what is the international world doing about it?
40:37We will talk about that after the break.
40:42Welcome back after the break.
40:43Viewers, the same types of atrocities are still going on in Gaza.
40:46And on the other hand, the International Court of Justice has issued an arrest warrant for Netanyahu.
40:50Now the world's reaction has begun to emerge.
40:53The International Court of Justice has issued a warrant for Netanyahu, the former Minister of Defense.
41:07And this is an international arrest warrant.
41:09The court has said that Netanyahu, the former Minister of Defense,
41:13has committed crimes against humanity in the form of murder and other inhumane acts.
41:27Both of them have committed war crimes in the form of brutal attacks against the urban population as non-military rulers.
41:36On January 26, the International Court of Justice ordered to stop genocide in Gaza.
41:41And on September 18, the United Nations agreed to stop Israeli occupation of Palestinian territories within 12 months.
41:48And on the request for a ban on non-compliance, the United Nations agreed to this.
41:54At this time, Ireland and Canada have announced that the Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu has been arrested.
42:02The Prime Minister of Ireland has announced that as soon as Netanyahu comes to Ireland,
42:10his arrest will be preferred over the international court's warrant for arrest.
42:15Canada's Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has also reiterated this.
42:19He said that Canada will comply with all the decisions issued by the international courts,
42:25including the arrest warrant against senior Israeli rulers by the ICC.
42:30After the decision of the International Court of Justice,
42:34countries around the world have been asked to comply with international laws.
42:41It should be noted that a statement has also come from the UK.
42:44But the strange thing is that a Republican Senator, Tom Cotton, said in his tweet that the ICC is a kangaroo court.
42:51And woe to him and anyone who tries to enforce these laws warrant.
42:56Let me give them all a friendly reminder that the American law on the ICC is known as the Hague Invasion Act for a reason.
43:02The Hague Invasion Act says that America can invade anywhere with its personnel and allies.
43:11Anyone can take a step.
43:13So is this a threat from this senator against the Netherlands?
43:18Is this a threat against the ICC?
43:20Are we standing on the brink of World War III?
43:24This is an important question.
43:25Anika Nisar, please allow me to leave.
43:27Take care.
43:28Allah Hafiz.

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