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00:00Good morning, I'm Shinji Hyodo from the Defense Ministry's Defense Research Institute, specializing in Russian foreign policy.
00:29Atsuko Higashino, a professor at Tsukuba University, specializing in European international politics.
00:38Tetsuo Kotani, a professor at Meikai University, specializing in international relations centered around the U.S.
00:48Let's take a look at today's headlines.
00:56Today is the 1000th anniversary of the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
01:02It's like a long-range missile showdown between Ukraine and Russia.
01:10This time, the Russian side launched a long-range missile.
01:17This is a story that has a lot to do with European security guarantees.
01:21I'd like to dig deeper into this.
01:24And President Trump.
01:27I mentioned earlier that the Trump administration plans to end the war within 24 hours.
01:38I'd like to take a look at how the Trump administration is going to proceed.
01:52Meanwhile, we have some news about the Trump administration.
01:58Scott Vincent, the head of the investment fund, has been officially appointed as Secretary of the Treasury.
02:07The Secretary of the Treasury is a very important figure for the global economy.
02:13Mr. Kotani, what do you think of Mr. Vincent?
02:17Well, there were a number of names on the list of candidates for Secretary of the Treasury.
02:22I think I've settled on my real name.
02:26I've been providing various advice and data to Mr. Trump since the election.
02:32I've been making positive remarks about the Trump administration's plans for a ceasefire.
02:41Mr. Elon Musk was the one who appointed Mr. Lutonik, who was appointed as Secretary of the Treasury.
02:47I think that Mr. Musk's influence is not perfect.
02:54In any case, there is a big problem that the Secretary of the Treasury has to come to terms with this at the beginning of next year.
03:01He has to manage this after the election.
03:06And he has to extend the Trump budget, which will expire at the end of next year.
03:11I think we're going to have to face these two big issues.
03:16You've been working for George Soros for a long time.
03:21I think you're more of a financial person.
03:25Has Mr. Trump been supporting you financially all this time?
03:30Yes, he has. He's been giving me advice on economic policy.
03:38He's been a central figure in the Trump administration's financial system.
03:44After the commercial break, we'll take a look at a special report on Ukraine and Russia's long-range weapons attacks.
03:52U.S. media reported on Sunday that U.S. President Joe Biden has approved the use of long-range missiles A-TACMUS in the Russian waters.
04:10It is also seen as an attempt to stop the proliferation of the missiles used by North Korea and Russia, which are said to be participating in the war in the western part of Russia.
04:21The U.S. side has been opposed to the use of A-TACMUS in the Russian waters, but has changed its mind.
04:31On the 19th, the Russian Defense Ministry announced that the Ukrainian army used A-TACMUS to attack the Russian Buryansk region, which is close to the border.
04:43Five missiles were shot down, but one missile fragment fell into a military facility and a fire broke out.
04:53The Ukrainian President Zelensky, who was asked about the attack on Russia, said,
05:01I'm sorry, but Ukraine has long-range capabilities. Ukraine has long-range drones of its own production.
05:14We now have a long Neptune and not one. And now we have A-TACMUS. And we will use it all.
05:27The use of A-TACMUS was not made clear this time, but it is a long-range attack, including the future of A-TACMUS.
05:38The U.S. has not only approved the use of long-range missiles, but also announced the approval of anti-personnel missiles.
05:47Why did the Biden administration decide to change its mind at this time?
05:55On the 19th, the Russian President Putin signed the President's Ordinance on the Use of Nuclear Weapons.
06:10After the signing of the President's Ordinance on the Use of Nuclear Weapons, the U.S. has expanded its military threat to nuclear attacks.
06:17The U.S. has also indicated that the U.S. military support for Ukraine will also be targeted by nuclear attacks.
06:24On the 21st, the Ukrainian Air Force announced that Russia had launched ICBMs.
06:34CNN TV in the U.S. reported that it was a ballistic missile, but not an ICBM, and that it was divided into two sides.
06:46What did the Russian President Putin say about this missile?
06:52Our missile launchers called it a nut. The tests were successful. The launch target has been reached.
07:02He said that it was a retaliatory measure against Ukraine's long-range missile attack on Russia.
07:12He also emphasized that the missile is a new type of IRBM, a medium-range ballistic missile, and cannot be intercepted by the U.S. air defense system because it flies at ten times the speed of sound.
07:30At the same time as the nuclear threat, Russia's future moves, which will put pressure on the U.S. and Europe with a new type of missile.
07:41And how will Trump, who claimed to end the war in 24 hours, move after the inauguration of the next U.S. President?
07:54I'm here and I'm moving a lot.
07:56Today, we will deepen our discussion on these three themes.
07:59First, let's take a look at why the U.S. has approved the use of long-range weapons at this time.
08:07First, let's take a look at the recent developments.
08:10On June 6, North Korea had its first nuclear warhead in the Kursk region after it was deployed to Russia.
08:16On the 17th, U.S. President Joe Biden announced his approval for the use of long-range missiles that had been banned in Ukraine.
08:25Two days later, Ukraine attacked a military base in Buryansk, western Russia, with ATACMS.
08:31On the other hand, President Putin approved the nuclear doctrine, which showed the requirements for the use of nuclear weapons, and amended the conditions for the use of nuclear weapons.
08:42On the 20th, Ukraine attacked a military base in the Kursk region with Storm Shadow, which was authorized by the United Kingdom.
08:49And on the same 20th, the Biden administration officially announced the authorization of anti-personnel missiles to Ukraine.
08:56On the 21st, Russia attacked a military base in eastern Ukraine with multiple missiles, including a new type of medium-range ballistic missile, Oreshnik.
09:05Ukraine announced that it had shot down six anti-personnel missiles.
09:10Since then, Ukraine has been developing in pursuit of long-range missiles.
09:14Where do you focus on, Mr. Hyodo?
09:18President Putin wanted to prevent long-range weapons attacks against the Russian territory.
09:29On the 25th of September, he expressed his intention to review the nuclear doctrine.
09:35This was the timing when President Zelensky visited New York, USA, and submitted the ATACMS application to President Biden.
09:45After that, President Biden did not issue an application.
09:50I think he thought that he would not be able to issue an application because his popularity would be cut off.
09:58As a result, it was probably a miscalculation by President Putin.
10:04At this timing, President Biden approved the application.
10:08So, in a hurry, he decided to review the nuclear doctrine.
10:16However, he failed to do so.
10:19As a result, he shot down the Russian medium-range ballistic missile in Ukraine.
10:28From President Putin's point of view, it was a miscalculation and a little careless.
10:32Yes, it was a little careless.
10:33I think he was in a hurry to approve the application.
10:40Ms. Higashino.
10:41I fully agree with President Hyodo's explanation.
10:45Until now, the Biden administration has been cautious.
10:50They rejected everything that seemed to invite the escalation of Russia.
10:54It was a big frustration from the Ukrainian side.
10:58However, during the November meeting, British Prime Minister Sturm and French President Macron
11:03asked the Biden administration to lift the restrictions on long-range weapons.
11:10From Ukraine's point of view, it was a good condition.
11:16However, they have to be careful not to completely lift the restrictions.
11:22This time, it seems to have been used in the Kursk-related operation.
11:28However, it does not mean that it can be used indefinitely.
11:32As Mr. Hyodo explained earlier,
11:35it is a situation in which the Ukrainian side is concerned about the possibility that the Biden administration
11:41will back down again after seeing such measures to cover up Russia's impatience and carelessness.
11:50Mr. Kotani.
11:52This time, we issued a permission to use long-range missiles.
11:57Just before that, the New York Times and the Washington Post reported on the policy.
12:02When the Biden administration makes an intentional leak,
12:06it always uses either of these two, but this time it used both.
12:10I think it means that it showed the will of the administration in advance.
12:14When using the Wall Street Journal, it is a time for observation.
12:18The meaning is completely different.
12:21This time, it used both of the two, so it showed a clear intention in advance.
12:26In addition, it is said that it is a link with the North Korean warplanes.
12:32It is used only for attacks on Russian military bases involved in the Kursk war.
12:39It is a fairly limited thing, and it is a permission to use it after sending a message to Russia in advance.
12:45Moreover, there is not much stock in ATACUS,
12:49so I don't know how many shots it has given, but I don't think it has given that many.
12:54As Mr. Higashino said, this is a limited permission.
12:59That's right. It was a careful decision not to imitate Russia's excessive escalation.
13:07However, when ATACUS was fired, it was said that Russia's S-400 fired five or six shots,
13:14but in fact it only fired two shots.
13:18I think it was probably a bad decision for Russia.
13:23First of all, let's take a closer look at the long range of Ukraine.
13:30First, let's check the map.
13:33This is Ukraine's long-range attack.
13:35The attack on November 19th is here.
13:38It is said that the American Chita-1 missile ATACUS has a range of about 300 km.
13:44It attacked a military facility in Buryansk Region, Karachev.
13:48The Russian Defense Ministry said that six ATACUS were fired and five were shot down.
13:54And it announced that it was damaged in one shot.
13:57This yellowish area is the range of ATACUS.
14:03And down here, on November 20th,
14:06it is said that it attacked a military facility in Kursk Region, which is said to be equipped with North Korean soldiers,
14:15with a long-range missile STORM SHADOW, which is said to have a range of more than 250 km.
14:23According to Russian information, up to 12 ATACUS were fired.
14:29Mr. Hyodo, this means that the US side is basically in Kursk Region,
14:35but ATACUS went to Buryansk Region.
14:39Is this the part of Kursk that is involved in the so-called war?
14:44That's right.
14:45There are military bases such as supply bases.
14:49Of course, it's not just targeting this battle area,
14:53but it's also targeting military bases that are involved in this battle.
14:58Also, North Korean soldiers are deployed in Buryansk Region,
15:03and it is said that it will be a target for a correct attack.
15:07So, South Korea is looking at the possibility that it may have lost its military,
15:13but not only Russia, but North Korean soldiers are also likely to be damaged by ATACUS.
15:23Why did President Biden make this decision at this timing?
15:29It seems that the US side is trying to say that the North Korean soldiers and the Russian side
15:36were the first to move through the media, and that it was meant to resist them.
15:43What other background do you think was there, including the true intention?
15:48Why did President Biden make this decision at this timing?
15:52Is he on the side of Russia?
15:54President Biden?
15:55Yes, President Biden.
15:56President Biden is saying that the increase in the number of North Korean soldiers
16:01will increase to 100,000 if he makes it known to Ukraine,
16:04and he is saying that it is to prevent that.
16:08However, I think that President Trump, the new president,
16:13has the potential to make a deal with Ukraine,
16:16and he wants to improve the situation in Ukraine.
16:24So, I think he is aiming to maintain the Kursk as a negotiating card
16:31with the permission of ATACUS.
16:36Certainly, when it comes to what to do with the territory,
16:41it is very important to keep the Kursk as a state that Ukraine has for a long time.
16:47One of the political purposes of Zelensky's attack on the Kursk
16:52is to maintain it as a negotiating card.
16:56So, if this is completely withdrawn from the Russian side,
17:00there is a possibility that the future negotiations will be disadvantageous.
17:05However, on the Russian side,
17:07the Kursk has been occupied by Ukraine,
17:10and it seems that President Trump can't respond to this ceasefire.
17:15It seems that he is looking at it like this.
17:18So, I think that he will continue to strengthen the composition
17:23while using North Korean soldiers to recapture the Kursk
17:26before the new government is established.
17:29Mr. Higashino, what do you think about the background there?
17:32Well, the world is full of Trump,
17:37and there are places where all eyes are on Trump.
17:41On the Ukrainian side,
17:43rather, in this situation,
17:45how to pull out a lot of things from Biden
17:48before Biden leaves.
17:50Rather, the negotiations are speeding up or leveling up.
17:54Before leaving,
17:56be sure to limit the number of long-range weapons.
17:59As a result of hoping for a negotiation in a very strong position,
18:03Biden finally listened to me.
18:06However, as I mentioned earlier,
18:08this is a limited release that is not enough to change the situation.
18:13However, this is also an important step,
18:15so I think that Ukraine will continue to negotiate like this
18:18before the Biden administration leaves.
18:21The UK has already used the Storm Shadow,
18:25and there is talk that France is also allowing it.
18:28In Germany, for example,
18:30it is said that they have more long-range weapons,
18:32such as Taurus.
18:34Is it going to spread to this area?
18:36That's a completely different story.
18:38That's right.
18:40Looking at the launch of missiles from Russia this time,
18:42if it's the way the Soviet Union has done it so far,
18:44I think it will be the idea that Taurus should not be provided.
18:47So, in Germany,
18:49because other countries have limited the number of long-range weapons,
18:52I think it will be difficult for us to develop.
18:57Mr. Otani, at this time of the Biden administration,
19:01you mentioned North Korea earlier,
19:03but what other places do you think there are?
19:06The $600 billion in weapons support for Ukraine,
19:09which was established in the spring of this year.
19:14There is only $7 billion left.
19:17The President himself has decided to use this $7 billion
19:21by the end of September,
19:24so I think we will continue to use this $7 billion in the future.
19:31I think what will happen to the contents will change
19:34according to the election in the future,
19:37but basically, rather than reclaiming the territory,
19:40I think that we will continue to support weapons
19:43so that Ukraine will not be robbed of its territory anymore.
19:47There is also a story about the support for the Taishin era,
19:50but the Eastern Front is also being pushed quite a bit now,
19:53so I think it is a stubborn decision
19:56to make sure that this is not pushed any further,
19:59but I think that we will use the remaining $7 billion
20:02to ensure that the territory is not taken away.
20:05As for the Taishin era,
20:08there is information here,
20:11but basically, this is a battery-type situation
20:14where the situation of the explosion remains.
20:17It is like the Taishin era,
20:20but Ukraine is a country that should not be used
20:23because it is a non-proliferation country
20:26of the Taishin era.
20:29Mr. Hyodo, this means that the United States
20:32will allow this at this time,
20:35but I think it means to use this
20:38where it is probably being pushed in the east,
20:41but what should we look at?
20:44As Mr. Sotani said,
20:47some parts of the eastern region
20:50are now in a state of war,
20:53and the Ukrainian side is being pushed in.
20:56So, in order to ensure that more territory is not taken away,
20:59the United States will operate in a battery-type way
21:02and stop this function to a certain extent.
21:05I think that this decision was made
21:08to encourage the limited Taishin era.
21:11So, I think that it is necessary to pay attention
21:14to what kind of acceptance will be made
21:17in the international community
21:20in this area.
21:23Until now, the Russian side was in a state of war
21:26in the eastern region,
21:29and there was a time when Ukraine invaded.
21:32At that time, were they using it normally?
21:35Yes, when they built a strong defense line,
21:38the Russians did not interfere with the treaty,
21:41so they used it without any restrictions.
21:44So, one side was able to use it,
21:47and the other side was not able to use it.
21:50That means that the election was disadvantageous.
21:53Yes.
21:56After the commercial break,
21:59we will listen to President Putin's thoughts.
22:09Now, let's move on to the second topic.
22:12What is President Putin's intention to strengthen the threat of nuclear weapons?
22:15Let's discuss this.
22:18First of all,
22:21the Ukrainian military announced that
22:24Russia had attacked the main infrastructure of Donipro
22:27in the eastern part of Ukraine
22:30with an intercontinental ballistic missile from the southern part of Russia,
22:33the Astrakhan region.
22:36In a video speech published on the 21st,
22:39President Putin announced that
22:42the new IRBM, the intercontinental ballistic missile,
22:45was used to attack Donipro.
22:48In addition, Russia has the right to attack a country
22:51that has allowed Ukraine to use weapons
22:54and has begun to have a global personality.
22:57And he made it clear to the United States
23:00that he had notified this in advance.
23:03What are the characteristics of the intercontinental ballistic missile?
23:06Basically, the range,
23:09the speed,
23:12the short distance,
23:15and the middle of the ICBM.
23:18And the third one, the ballistic missile.
23:21It is said that it is a multi-barrel missile
23:24that can attack multiple targets at once.
23:27At this timing,
23:31how do you think the Russian side used it?
23:34The intercontinental ballistic missile
23:37is a missile that can cover
23:40almost the entire Europe
23:43although it is not clear how much the range is.
23:46So there is not much military meaning
23:49to use the intercontinental ballistic missile
23:52for Ukraine itself.
23:55Rather, the fact that it was used
23:59in the Cold War against NATO countries in Europe
24:02shows that there is a possibility
24:05that the threat of Russia's intercontinental ballistic missile
24:08will be reproduced.
24:11So if the United States and the United Kingdom
24:14continue to attack the Russian territory
24:17with this long-range weapon,
24:20Russia will deploy this long-range missile in earnest.
24:23This time, it is just a test experiment.
24:26Russia has not deployed this long-range missile.
24:29This is the explanation from the Russian side.
24:32So if the United States and the United Kingdom
24:35continue to take strict action against Russia,
24:38Russia will deal with it in the intercontinental way.
24:41While shaking up Europe,
24:44we would like to ease the careful restrictions
24:47on military support for Ukraine in Europe
24:50and divide the entire Europe.
24:53Ms. Higashino.
24:56First of all, I would be grateful
24:59if the victory plan of Ukraine came out.
25:02As President Putin, the victory plan of Ukraine
25:05was announced on October 16.
25:08In particular, the most important part
25:11is the strengthening of Ukraine's defense.
25:14In this, he strongly asked to limit the use
25:17of long-range weapons.
25:20However, the message of Ukraine
25:23is that the most important part of the victory plan
25:26is to limit the use of long-range weapons.
25:29However, the other European countries,
25:32including the Biden administration,
25:35did not seem to listen to this.
25:38As Mr. Mofiodo said earlier,
25:41I think the Putin administration was careless.
25:44However, this situation is getting worse.
25:47I think we will be able to recognize
25:50a part of the victory plan.
25:53This is not for Ukraine,
25:56but for the countries that are trying to recognize it.
25:59For example, in the Eastern Franc,
26:02which is called Eastern Europe,
26:05we can deploy missiles
26:08that can reach Middle Eastern countries.
26:11We can use it anytime.
26:14This kind of threat is repeated in this war.
26:17The more threats we make,
26:20the more Middle Eastern countries will unite
26:23and support Russia.
26:26We have to support Ukraine
26:29and prepare for this war.
26:32I think there is a possibility
26:35that we are weakening the public opinion.
26:38However, as I said earlier,
26:41this is a dangerous situation.
26:44I think this is a move that can't be made
26:47in Europe, which seems to be in a stronger position.
26:50Looking at Mr. Putin's statement again,
26:53it is true that the Ukraine war
26:56has become a global personality.
26:59We have the right to attack
27:02the countries that allow the use of weapons.
27:05It is a war that reaches Europe
27:08and Middle Eastern countries,
27:11but it doesn't reach the United States.
27:14The United States has already been warned.
27:17Mr. Kotani, it seems that you are warning Europe
27:20while controlling the escalation with the United States.
27:23How do you feel about that?
27:26The Middle Eastern missiles
27:29are for that purpose.
27:32They don't reach the United States,
27:35but they reach Europe.
27:38If that happens, will the United States
27:41take this seriously?
27:44I think the point is that
27:47this is not used in Europe,
27:50but in Ukraine.
27:53President Putin says that
27:56there is no way to intercept this new missile.
27:59At the same time as this Olsenik,
28:02all other missiles have been intercepted.
28:05The Patriot missile that the United States launched
28:08has been intercepted,
28:11but Olsenik has not been intercepted.
28:14This means that the air defense system
28:17distributed to NATO countries,
28:20including the Patriot,
28:23is not effective.
28:26However, the overall nuclear power of NATO
28:29is not enough
28:32to escalate the situation.
28:35As Mr. Higashino said,
28:38Germany may be more cautious,
28:41but I don't think that the US
28:44and the European Union have collapsed.
28:47Mr. Putin has decided
28:50to review the nuclear doctrine.
28:53Let's take a look at it.
28:56The purpose of the nuclear weapon
28:59has been changed to the old doctrine
29:02and the new doctrine.
29:05In the past, it was written that
29:08it could only be used as a means of avoiding death.
29:11However, the purpose has been changed
29:14to make it understandable
29:17that if it is invaded,
29:20it cannot avoid retaliation.
29:23If it is used as a weapon,
29:26it will be seen as a joint attack.
29:29It was also written that
29:32if it is invaded by ordinary weapons
29:35and the state is in danger of loss,
29:38it can be used to threaten the sovereignty
29:41and territorial security of Japan
29:44or Belarus by ordinary weapons.
29:47It was also written that
29:50if a large-scale attack is started
29:53by aircraft, cruise missiles,
29:56unmanned aircraft, etc.
29:59and there is information about crossing the border,
30:02the level will be lowered.
30:05Mr. Higashino, you've been doing
30:08the information war on nuclear weapons
30:11for a long time.
30:14It's been a thousand days
30:17since the beginning of the war.
30:20In the end, I wonder if it can be done.
30:23What do you think?
30:26Since the beginning of the war,
30:29we have been trying to improve
30:32the military support of the United States
30:35by flashing the nuclear-capable card.
30:38However, as time goes by,
30:41the efficiency of the card is declining.
30:44In other words, by lowering the standards
30:47of nuclear use,
30:50we were trying to improve the effect of the card,
30:53but we were unable to prevent
30:56the military support of the United States.
30:59Therefore, we are trying to increase
31:02the impact of the nuclear card
31:05by actually firing a nuclear-capable
31:08medium-range ballistic missile,
31:11but I don't know if the U.S.
31:14will be affected by this.
31:17In addition to the nuclear-capable card,
31:20President Putin is also trying to cut
31:23the next card, which is the card
31:26that is close to North Korea and Iran.
31:29That's why we are now inviting
31:32North Korean soldiers,
31:35but in fact, North Korea and Iran
31:38are in close contact with the U.S.
31:41and are trying to use it
31:44as the next card for the U.S.
31:47I think you can see that kind of movement.
31:50Let's take a look at North Korea.
31:53Let's take a look at North Korea.
31:56According to South Korea,
31:59about 11,000 North Korean soldiers
32:02are being deployed.
32:06President Zelensky of Ukraine
32:09said that there is a possibility
32:12that this will eventually expand
32:15to the scale of 100,000.
32:18Mr. Hyodo, so far,
32:21North Korea has been limited to Kursk.
32:24In other words, it looks like
32:27North Korean soldiers are limited
32:30to the Russian territory.
32:33The front line of North Korea
32:36has a very high death rate,
32:39so if they send North Korean soldiers
32:42to the front line,
32:45there is a possibility that
32:48the number of casualties will increase.
32:51So far, they have been limited
32:54to Kursk, the Russian territory.
32:57As I mentioned earlier,
33:00there is a possibility that
33:03the number of casualties will increase.
33:06So I'm not sure
33:09if the battle between North Korea
33:12and Russia will go well in the future.
33:15There is also a possibility
33:18that there will be a problem
33:21with language,
33:24coordination, and command system.
33:27Let's take a closer look
33:30at the thoughts of President Trump.
33:35The next topic is
33:38whether the ceasefire will be realized
33:41in the city of Trump.
33:44First of all, here is the summary
33:47of the Ukrainian-Ukrainian coalition
33:50of the new Trump administration
33:53that will be established in January next year.
33:56The goal is to freeze
33:59about 20% of Ukraine's territory
34:02and temporarily stop Ukraine
34:05from joining NATO.
34:08In a certain plan,
34:11the United States will continue
34:14to provide weapons
34:17in return for the promise
34:20that Ukraine will not join NATO
34:23and that it will provide
34:26more than 100,000 kg of non-armed forces.
34:29Mr. Kotani, at this point,
34:32what kind of stance
34:35is President Trump taking?
34:38The basic policy is
34:41to continue to provide weapons.
34:44However, the first condition
34:47is that President Zelensky
34:50will accept the ceasefire.
34:53The other condition is
34:56that he will raise the price
34:59for joining NATO.
35:02It is also considered
35:05as a condition to invite Putin
35:08to the ceasefire.
35:11Even so, if Putin does not join,
35:14the basic policy is to strengthen
35:17the ties between Ukraine and NATO.
35:20In addition,
35:23President Zelensky will
35:26not be able to join NATO
35:29unless he gives up
35:32NATO to Putin
35:35in order to
35:38put Putin on the negotiating table.
35:41In other words,
35:44President Zelensky will not be able
35:47to join NATO unless he gives up NATO
35:50to Putin in order to
35:53put Putin on the negotiating table.
35:56In addition,
35:59President Zelensky will not be able
36:02to join NATO unless he gives up NATO
36:05to Putin in order to
36:08put Putin on the negotiating table.
36:11In other words,
36:14President Zelensky will not be able
36:17to join NATO unless he gives up NATO
36:20to Putin in order to
36:23put Putin on the negotiating table.
36:26In other words,
36:29President Zelensky will not be able
36:32to join NATO unless he gives up NATO
36:35to Putin in order to
36:38put Putin on the negotiating table.
36:41In other words,
36:44President Zelensky will not be able
36:47to join NATO unless he gives up NATO
36:50to Putin in order to
36:53put Putin on the negotiating table.
36:56In other words,
36:59President Zelensky will not be able
37:02to join NATO unless he gives up NATO
37:05to Putin in order to
37:08put Putin on the negotiating table.
37:11In other words,
37:14President Zelensky will not be able
37:17to join NATO unless he gives up NATO
37:20to Putin in order to
37:23put Putin on the negotiating table.
37:26In other words,
37:29President Zelensky will not be able
37:32to join NATO unless he gives up NATO
37:35to Putin in order to
37:38put Putin on the negotiating table.
37:41President Zelensky will not be able
37:44to join NATO unless he gives up NATO
37:47to Putin in order to
37:50put Putin on the negotiating table.
37:53President Zelensky will not be able
37:56to join NATO unless he gives up NATO
37:59to Putin in order to
38:02put Putin on the negotiating table.
38:05President Zelensky will not be able
38:08to join NATO unless he gives up NATO
38:11to Putin in order to
38:14put Putin on the negotiating table.
38:17President Zelensky will not be able
38:20to join NATO unless he gives up NATO
38:23to Putin in order to
38:26put Putin on the negotiating table.
38:29President Zelensky will not be able
38:32to join NATO unless he gives up NATO
38:35to Putin in order to
38:38put Putin on the negotiating table.
38:41President Zelensky will not be able
38:44to join NATO unless he gives up NATO
38:47to Putin in order to
38:50put Putin on the negotiating table.
38:53President Zelensky will not be able
38:56to join NATO unless he gives up NATO
38:59to Putin in order to
39:02put Putin on the negotiating table.
39:23President Zelensky will not be able
39:26to join NATO unless he gives up NATO
39:29to Putin in order to
39:32put Putin on the negotiating table.
39:35President Zelensky will not be able
39:38to join NATO unless he gives up NATO
39:41to Putin in order to
39:44put Putin on the negotiating table.
39:47President Zelensky will not be able
39:50to join NATO unless he gives up NATO
39:53to Putin in order to
39:56put Putin on the negotiating table.
39:59President Zelensky will not be able
40:02to join NATO unless he gives up NATO
40:05to Putin in order to
40:08put Putin on the negotiating table.
40:11President Zelensky will not be able
40:14to join NATO unless he gives up NATO
40:17to Putin in order to
40:20put Putin on the negotiating table.
40:47President Zelensky will not be able
40:50to join NATO unless he gives up NATO
40:53to Putin in order to
40:56put Putin on the negotiating table.
40:59President Zelensky will not be able
41:02to join NATO unless he gives up NATO
41:05to Putin in order to
41:08put Putin on the negotiating table.
41:11President Zelensky will not be able
41:14to join NATO unless he gives up NATO
41:17to Putin in order to
41:20put Putin on the negotiating table.
41:23President Zelensky will not be able
41:26to join NATO unless he gives up NATO
41:29to Putin in order to
41:32put Putin on the negotiating table.
41:35President Zelensky will not be able
41:38to join NATO unless he gives up NATO
41:41to Putin in order to
41:44put Putin on the negotiating table.
42:11President Zelensky will not be able
42:14to join NATO unless he gives up NATO
42:17to Putin in order to
42:20put Putin on the negotiating table.
42:23President Zelensky will not be able
42:26to join NATO unless he gives up NATO
42:29to Putin in order to
42:32put Putin on the negotiating table.
42:35President Zelensky will not be able
42:38to join NATO unless he gives up NATO
42:41to Putin in order to
42:44put Putin on the negotiating table.
42:47President Zelensky will not be able
42:50to join NATO unless he gives up NATO
42:53to Putin in order to
42:56put Putin on the negotiating table.
42:59President Zelensky will not be able
43:02to join NATO unless he gives up NATO
43:05to Putin in order to
43:08put Putin on the negotiating table.
43:11President Zelensky will not be able
43:14to join NATO unless he gives up NATO
43:17to Putin in order to
43:20put Putin on the negotiating table.
43:23President Zelensky will not be able
43:26to join NATO unless he gives up NATO
43:29to Putin in order to
43:32put Putin on the negotiating table.
44:02President Zelensky will not be able
44:05to join NATO unless he gives up NATO
44:08to Putin in order to
44:11put Putin on the negotiating table.
44:14President Zelensky will not be able
44:17to join NATO unless he gives up NATO
44:20to Putin in order to
44:23put Putin on the negotiating table.
44:26President Zelensky will not be able
44:29to join NATO unless he gives up NATO
44:32to Putin in order to
44:35put Putin on the negotiating table.
44:38President Zelensky will not be able
44:41to join NATO unless he gives up NATO
44:44to Putin in order to
44:47put Putin on the negotiating table.
44:50President Zelensky will not be able
44:53to join NATO unless he gives up NATO
44:56to Putin in order to
44:59put Putin on the negotiating table.
45:02President Zelensky will not be able
45:05to join NATO unless he gives up NATO
45:08to Putin in order to
45:11put Putin on the negotiating table.
45:14President Zelensky will not be able
45:17to join NATO unless he gives up NATO
45:20to Putin in order to
45:23put Putin on the negotiating table.
45:26President Zelensky will not be able
45:29to join NATO unless he gives up NATO
45:32to Putin in order to
45:35put Putin on the negotiating table.
45:38President Zelensky will not be able
45:41to join NATO unless he gives up NATO
45:44to Putin in order to
45:47put Putin on the negotiating table.
45:50President Zelensky will not be able
45:53to join NATO unless he gives up
45:56NATO to Putin in order to
45:59put Putin on the negotiating table.
46:08He said that Europe doesn't like
46:11President Zelensky after a year
46:15President Zelensky said that Europe
46:18The United States has said that there is a possibility that the United States will not make the United States a member of the European Union based on the joint defense of the North Atlantic Treaty.
46:29At the same time, Mr. Trump also said that European countries are increasing their defense expenses thanks to his own words.
46:43This is not necessarily due to the influence of Mr. Trump, but rather, it is due to the Russian invasion of Ukraine, which changed the perception of European countries' security guarantees and increased their defense expenses.
46:52However, Mr. Trump may think that this is his own merit, so I think that as a member of the European Union, he has no choice but to get along well with Mr. Trump.
47:01Mr. Kotani, Mr. Trump didn't say that he would withdraw immediately, did he?
47:06No, he didn't say that he would withdraw immediately. I think he is at the stage of throwing a high ball by withdrawing from Europe.
47:17That's all for today.
47:19After the commercial break, we will continue with the market information.
47:36Next is the market information.
48:06The price of the Nikkei Weapon in Chicago was 38,595 yen. It is about 300 yen higher than the price of the Nikkei Weapon on Friday.
48:15The market officials predicted the price of the stock at the end of December.
48:19Mr. Yajima of the Nissei Basic Research Institute predicted 40,000 yen.
48:22It is expected that the movement of the Trump administration will become more serious and that the transparency factor will be reduced.
48:27Mr. Itoshima of Pictet Japan predicted 38,500 yen.
48:30It is also expected that the rise in U.S. stock prices due to the NVIDIA decision-making announcement will be limited, and that the exchange rate will be one cent per share at the end of the year.
48:40Let's check the schedule for next week.
48:43Mr. Hyodo, where are you paying attention to?
48:45I am paying attention to the G7 Summit, where Mr. Iwai and Mr. Gaim will participate.
48:49The Ukrainian-Japanese tension is mainly due to the North Korea's participation in the summit and the use of Russia's medium-range missiles.
48:59However, the war between North Korea and Japan is becoming a problem in East Asia.
49:05In addition, the use of medium-range missiles is not limited to Europe alone.
49:08If they are deployed to Russia, Japan may face the threat of nuclear missiles again.
49:15I would like you to discuss this issue from the perspective of Japan and East Asia.
49:23What about you, Ms. Higashiro?
49:24In the North Korea-Baltic Summit on the 27th, a pamphlet was published on what the people should do to prepare for the war.
49:38The awareness that this war will not be able to escape even if it is a nato-dominated country is becoming stronger.
49:46The main theme is the massive invasion by Russia.
49:50That's all for today.