El periodista Rafael Palacios y la perito grafóloga, Olga Cortece desenredan la trama de contradicciones y posibles malos manejos dentro de la justicia y la policía.
La investigación sobre la desaparición de Loan Danilo Peña, el niño de 5 años perdido desde junio en Corrientes, tomó un nuevo y escandaloso giro: la Justicia analiza el papel de María Luisa Lezcano, una presunta perita autoproclamada especialista en búsquedas, quien intervino en los primeros días del caso y ahora es sospechosa de ser mitómana.
Según las autoridades, su papel en la causa pudo haber contribuido a la creación de pistas falsas y dilatado la investigación, aumentando la angustia de la familia del menor.
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La investigación sobre la desaparición de Loan Danilo Peña, el niño de 5 años perdido desde junio en Corrientes, tomó un nuevo y escandaloso giro: la Justicia analiza el papel de María Luisa Lezcano, una presunta perita autoproclamada especialista en búsquedas, quien intervino en los primeros días del caso y ahora es sospechosa de ser mitómana.
Según las autoridades, su papel en la causa pudo haber contribuido a la creación de pistas falsas y dilatado la investigación, aumentando la angustia de la familia del menor.
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00:00I want to highlight something that we just heard while listening to the audios.
00:04First, well, I greet Rafa Palacios, always with first-hand information about the Lohan case.
00:10And I get, Doctor, the expert, Olga Cortese.
00:15Because there is a key fact regarding the audios, and it is that Olga Cortese,
00:20yesterday I was wrong and I say that it was Angela Burgos.
00:23That came out everywhere.
00:24Yes.
00:25It came out everywhere that it was Angela Burgos.
00:27We don't know then where that manipulated information came from, but we take the opportunity to rectify it.
00:33It was Olga Cortese, neither more nor less, this Cordoban expert-graphologist,
00:39who presented the audios of the Audelina in the court.
00:44Audios, leaving aside the grandiloquence of Dr. Juan Pablo Gallego,
00:49audios that have mobilized the cause this week.
00:53Because let's remember, yesterday Commissioner Rodriguez declared,
00:57and today two students of Cortese are declaring that an understanding coincided with the false Lescano expert.
01:06Now I ask the expert.
01:09How do you get those audios and when do they arrive?
01:16Look, those audios arrive at the hands of my students.
01:26Because Lescano, on the one hand, was dealing with me to do the issue of the signatures,
01:32and on the other hand, without me knowing, he was putting it together with the girls, with the classmates.
01:39These girls were classmates of Cursado, who never studied.
01:44She always asked for help, so she gave them material.
01:48She asked for help to be able to sell, because supposedly she was going to give in free to the expert-graphologist.
01:54And then she asked for help from her classmates.
01:57And she never studied, she never gave in, but she did give them the material.
02:03Yes, okay, but the audio, the audio, the audio.
02:06That's why, that's why.
02:07Within some of the other materials that I presented, they were in the group of the girls who were studying,
02:14who are already being received, who are the ones who are declaring today.
02:16Olga, a parenthesis.
02:17That audio does not reach me personally.
02:19That audio does not reach me.
02:20What he sends me is the file.
02:23I never opened it.
02:25A parenthesis.
02:26Now you continue to tell in detail how the audios arrived to you and what Lescano told you about these audios.
02:32But I wanted to make a parenthesis to denote the seriousness of what happened in the first days of the LOAN cause
02:40with a woman who was a student, a student for expert-graphologist,
02:49without subtracting any merit, I repeat, because perhaps I was misunderstood the other day,
02:54without subtracting any merit from the specialty,
02:56but a student who said she had a lot of titles that we have not seen until today,
03:02who trampled the whole crime scene at the request of Commissioner Maciel,
03:09with the veneer, said by her, of the Minister of Correntine Security,
03:14a woman who more or less had intentions of buying a title of expert-graphologist,
03:21which, in fact, I understand that according to the procedural code of Corrientes, is not valid.
03:27In Cordoba, Cortese explained that it is a specialty within the justice system,
03:31but not in other provinces.
03:34I understand that in Corrientes it is not.
03:35However, they gave a protagonist to a student, a woman who already had precedents in the justice system
03:44for having made herself go through something that was not in that case in the province of Neuquén,
03:49for having made herself go through military service.
03:51How many explanations does it have to give?
03:53Rafa, you wanted to add something, didn't you?
03:55No, I wanted to see what the seriousness of this fact is,
03:58and the investigation that was carried out, thanks to Correntes,
04:01who approached and sent all the material,
04:03is that the presence of this Lescano woman in the place had nothing to do with it.
04:08Let's see, the one who carried out the investigation is the prosecutor, Juan Carlos Castillo.
04:13I spoke personally with him, I consulted him about this person,
04:17and he told me that he never gave him authorization to carry out any type of investigation,
04:23on the one hand.
04:25On the other hand, I never asked for graphological expertise,
04:29and if necessary, we have experts, obviously, within the Corrientes justice system.
04:36And one more fact, the reports, which are not really reports,
04:40are from June 20.
04:43When do they appear before the provincial courts,
04:47Millap, Benitez and Ramirez?
04:49On June 22, that is, two days later.
04:52That is why it is not understood.
04:54The seriousness of the fact for me is, and this was also clarified to me by the prosecutor,
04:58and we are going to see how it is handled within the scope, let's say, of the Corrientes justice system,
05:04is the following.
05:05A person can go to collaborate in the search, you understand?
05:09As many people went to search, many people who had to register at the police station and others,
05:13this person was doing an investigation, which is not the same as collaborating in a search.
05:18And he could not carry out an investigation without having a life sentence.
05:25But let's see, a simple question, Rafa.
05:28How did the signatures of Benitez, Ramirez and Millap, for example,
05:33There is the key.
05:35a week after Logan's disappearance?
05:38These signatures are.
05:40When they are arrested, we remember that Millap, Benitez and Ramirez,
05:45that same night, on the 13th, they are arrested at the police station on June 9, yes?
05:51Well, precisely from that detention, because then I verify the papers,
05:56there he sends Olga the signatures, he sends her the documents,
06:02precisely the photo of the documents of Millap, Benitez and Ramirez,
06:06and later he also sends him the file.
06:08We are talking about the provincial area.
06:11How did he have access to that? It is not understood.
06:14He slept inside the police station, we remember.
06:17This is important.
06:19But I reiterate, he never had judicial authorization,
06:23because the one in charge of the investigation is not the police, it is the auxiliary area of justice.
06:27But also without any title.
06:29Without any title.
06:31Yes, but in relation to the title,
06:34there I gave her a certification,
06:39precisely when one is studying,
06:43that she started in 2023 and had to finish in 2026.
06:47I don't know, unless she does it in a wonderful way.
06:50But beyond whether she had the title or not,
06:53let's suppose she has the title, let's put it, yes?
06:55She didn't have anything to do there either,
06:57she had to have the authorization of justice to proceed as an investigator.
07:01The only ones who could be there are,
07:03for example, speaking with the prosecutor,
07:05the prosecutor who was in charge of the case,
07:09if we could do a journalistic investigation.
07:11I, for example, could be there, yes?
07:13But not a person doing this.
07:15And how did he have access to the file?
07:18Under what circumstances?
07:20Well, Rafa, I'm going to stop you there and tell you,
07:23beyond what you say about the scan,
07:26that you are absolutely right,
07:28she was not enrolled in the instruction.
07:30Yes.
07:31There were a lot of people who were not enrolled
07:33and acted in the instruction.
07:35A lot, huh?
07:36Exactly.
07:37But a lot.
07:38No, but I agree with you, Nahuel,
07:40that is, all these people had absolutely nothing to do
07:42and they are going to have to realize
07:44in relation to what they were doing,
07:46because in some way this is at least hindering the investigation, right?
07:50At least.
07:51What caught my attention is,
07:53because, let's see,
07:55if he slept in the dependency, right?
07:57Yes.
07:58BAE should also know it, the regional chief,
08:03and in turn the chief of complex crime must also know it,
08:07that is, the chief of police must also know it.
08:10Nothing happens in those places without it being vertically.
08:16I agree with you, Nahuel.
08:18It's like the police, let's see,
08:20to make it clear,
08:21the police was managed on one side
08:23and the prosecutor's orders were on the other.
08:26Speaking with Castillo, who was quite shaken, let's say,
08:29I personally spoke with him and he told me,
08:32I gave orders to Maciel and Maciel did something else.
08:35That is why the day before I had a strong altercation
08:39with Commissioner Maciel,
08:41who then, the next day, we remember,
08:43orders, Prosecutor Castillo,
08:45orders the arrest of Walter Adrián Maciel.
08:47Okay, but Castillo was the one who was a police officer, right?
08:51He had been a police officer and it is also worth clarifying
08:53that he never had any kind of,
08:55he did not know Walter Maciel,
08:57beyond that, because there is another Castillo,
08:59who is a commissioner, who did know Maciel,
09:02but not this Castillo.
09:03Okay, but this was the police, this was the police.
09:06Yes, yes, exactly, at one point he was a police officer.
09:09Then you have to know very clearly
09:10that he has to go down to the ground.
09:13He was at the ground.
09:15And he has to be behind every movement
09:17that the police does.
09:19Because he is the eyes of justice.
09:22Obviously, yes.
09:24Look, he made me realize that, for example,
09:26according to Article 72 of the Procedural Code,
09:28the Procedural Code of Currents,
09:30which is a very new code,
09:31which even allows you to make statements
09:33with a cell phone,
09:34so that they do not come to court
09:36and all the bureaucracy and so on,
09:38most of the statements are made in this way.
09:40I don't understand why they do that
09:42in the morning, in the prosecutor's office.
09:44They open at 2 in the morning,
09:46they do what they want.
09:48One thing obviously does not take away the other,
09:51but what I see is that many people
09:54who were there,
09:55I agree with you,
09:56and perhaps with Lavenia.
09:57Let's see, why did Maciel stop him?
09:59Because obviously Maciel was not
10:00obeying the orders
10:01that he was given by the prosecutor's office.
10:04This is the reality,
10:05because he said this over and over again.
10:07He said, go to the left,
10:09he went to the right.
10:10That is, something, let's say,
10:12to graph it in some way.
10:14Obviously, the police have
10:16a certain power of action,
10:18Article 72 of the Code.
10:20I'll give you an example.
10:21For example, they had to do,
10:22at that time,
10:23what Maciel had to do,
10:24a croquis of the situation.
10:26He never did the croquis.
10:27Do you know when he presented the croquis?
10:29When he presents himself
10:30to expand the inquiry,
10:32do we remember?
10:33He presents himself to expand the inquiry,
10:35which precisely speaks to the possibility
10:38of the deputy collaborator and others.
10:40There he presents a croquis.
10:41A croquis that he must have presented
10:43at first because it is within the Code.
10:46That is, it is within the procedure.
10:47It is an obligation.
10:48It must follow.
10:49Exactly.
10:50Give me a second,
10:51Olga is listening.
10:52I would like to deepen, Olga,
10:54about this action of the SCANO,
10:58which passes you the signature
11:00to analyze Benitez, Ramírez and Millapi.
11:03It makes you do a graphological study
11:05on those signatures.
11:06And then you take out your signature
11:08and put hers,
11:09not even to present it,
11:10but to send it to the media.
11:12One does not understand well why.
11:14Yesterday the question was pending
11:17what results those graphological studies
11:21you did on the signatures of Benitez,
11:24Ramírez and Millapi gave.
11:27I understand that the judge asked for the incorporation
11:30of both that proof and the croquis
11:33that the SCANO put together.
11:34The truth is that it is incomprehensible
11:37that you take into account the proof of someone
11:39who has not yet been able to demonstrate
11:41to true science what title,
11:43what specialty he has.
11:45For example, you said,
11:46I am a specialist in looking for people
11:47in the heights,
11:48and there is no such specialty.
11:51But tell us, Olga,
11:52what did you see in Benitez, Ramírez and Millapi
11:56based on their signatures?
11:58The first thing I want to clarify
12:00is that I did not do an experiment.
12:03You can't stop anywhere, right?
12:07It is not an experiment, it is a report.
12:09I think she cuts out that part,
12:12I don't know, because I haven't seen her.
12:15I say she, I don't know if it was her.
12:17She modifies my name for hers.
12:22That part where I say that the analysis
12:24cannot be deepened,
12:25you cannot do an experiment
12:27with three digital signatures
12:30that are scanned.
12:34Let's talk about the scan then, Olga.
12:36Is this woman a mythomaniac?
12:40Yes, because this started long before Loan.
12:45I have been seeing situations.
12:48And then, combining everything that happened,
12:52she is a mythomaniac.
12:54I can't diagnose,
12:55I can't make a diagnosis.
12:57A liar, to put it in Creole.
12:58Olga, how are you?
12:59Lucia greets you.
13:00What situations did you see
13:01prior to the disappearance of Loan
13:03that caught your attention?
13:06Sorry, what is the question?
13:07What situations did you see prior
13:09to the disappearance of Loan
13:10that caught your attention?
13:12No, in other situations,
13:14within the institute and its shareholders,
13:17there were things that I,
13:18it's like something I didn't feel,
13:22it didn't smell good.
13:23But well, for example,
13:25she presented herself as a lawyer,
13:27she even solved for me,
13:30I guess she did,
13:31I don't know if she did,
13:32a personal, legal issue.
13:35But I made the mistake
13:37of never asking for the matrix.
13:39Yes, a mistake, not a mistake.
13:41A mistake, not a mistake.
13:42A mistake.
13:43A mistake.
13:44A mistake that everyone made.
13:46No, no, a mistake,
13:47a mistake too.
13:48A mistake too.
13:49Because, let's see,
13:50I'm fine,
13:51and maybe yours is the best of all.
13:53But you, as a professional,
13:57you can't give anything to anyone,
14:00I believe you.
14:02It's a requirement.
14:03The truth is that I think,
14:04there, nothing,
14:05you dragged her,
14:06and you dragged her horribly.
14:07It's like that.
14:08Yes, in that sense, yes,
14:09but, as I say,
14:10no one,
14:11I mean, she's been there for so many months
14:14and no one has asked her yet.
14:16It's not about taking responsibility
14:19if one is better or worse,
14:20or worse than the other.
14:22Here, the truth is that everyone did wrong,
14:24everyone did wrong,
14:25yours was also wrong,
14:27hers was wrong,
14:28Maciel's was wrong,
14:30the, the, the,
14:32what are they called,
14:33the, the American,
14:36and everything else.
14:37They were also wrong.
14:38I'm not going to tell him.
14:39This is a set of wrongs.
14:41If she asks me to do an exam,
14:44I tell her,
14:45I tell her,
14:46I can't do an exam
14:47because you can't do an exam that way.
14:49The exam has a different format.
14:50That's not an exam.
14:52I make a report of the signatures.
14:54I can do that quietly.
14:56It's not that bad.
14:57It doesn't matter if she's a lawyer or not.
14:59If someone asks me to analyze the signature,
15:02I can analyze it.
15:03I make a profile.
15:04Yes, of course,
15:05but if I catch you,
15:06I'll call you tomorrow, Olga,
15:08and I'll tell you,
15:09Hey, Olga,
15:10make me a gauchada.
15:11You know I'm going to get into an investigation.
15:14Don't make me a certificate
15:16that I'm taking
15:17and that I finished the graphology course.
15:20If you give it to me, it's a...
15:22No, but we're talking about something else.
15:24I didn't make you the certificate.
15:26Oh, no? Sorry.
15:27There's a certificate
15:28that Rafael just showed you
15:30where she was taking the course
15:31and it says there the date she was going to graduate.
15:34Well, but Olga,
15:35but it was what we talked about yesterday.
15:37Olga had your signature.
15:38Of course,
15:39but apart from that,
15:40it was extended.
15:41The fact that she was taking the course
15:43without a degree.
15:45It's a signature.
15:46There are two types of signatures,
15:48the digital one and the digitized one, right?
15:50Yes.
15:51That signature is digitized.
15:53It's a signed signature
15:55from a digital signature,
15:57let's say, a signature...
15:58It's not even...
15:59No, the digital one is the one that is,
16:01let's say, original.
16:02The digitized one,
16:03you can scan it and copy it
16:05and paste it anywhere.
16:07That's what she did.
16:08I mean, there's no...
16:09No...
16:10That's what she has.
16:11She's a certification.
16:12It's my signature.
16:13It's my signature.
16:14I had understood
16:15something else yesterday.
16:16Let's see.
16:17Does she invent,
16:18falsify this certificate
16:20that we saw yesterday on the screen?
16:22No.
16:23Or is it something that comes out of the institute?
16:25No.
16:26No.
16:27The certificates, yes,
16:28we create them.
16:29Ah, well.
16:30That's why.
16:31Well.
16:32She doesn't falsify them.
16:33Because we were preparing a project.
16:35There's a certificate that's there
16:37that Rafael just presented
16:39where it says that she was taking the course.
16:41I even have the chats
16:43where she asks for a permit
16:47to present at the police station
16:49that she was taking the course.
16:50But you give that to her.
16:52You give that to her.
16:53Of course.
16:54And, well, she signs it.
16:55But there it is.
16:56No, but let's see.
16:57In the permit,
16:58in which I sent the production,
17:00it says that she is taking the course
17:02and that she finishes in 2026.
17:04What she is taking the course,
17:05not what she had received.
17:07I mean, there it is clear,
17:08that situation.
17:09What Olga says is that...
17:10In the document that we saw yesterday?
17:12No, I don't think so.
17:13No, no, no.
17:14Give me the document again.
17:15Give it to me if you have it on hand.
17:17The one I sent today?
17:18Ah, the one you sent today.
17:19Okay, okay.
17:20No, but yesterday we saw it clear, Rafa.
17:21The one I sent today.
17:22Yes.
17:23The one I sent today is...
17:24There it is.
17:25There it is, exactly.
17:26Yes, Rafa.
17:27Rafa, but wait.
17:28I'll send you another tomorrow.
17:29Of course.
17:30I'll send you another tomorrow
17:31that says that she wasn't even present.
17:33It's all digital.
17:34It's all written.
17:35I can write it down now.
17:37I'm not denying the validity
17:39of each of the documents.
17:41What I'm saying is,
17:42one clearly says one thing,
17:44another says another,
17:45and in the middle,
17:46there's a supposed expert
17:47who was present in the case
17:48looking for Logan.
17:50Exactly.
17:51Let's see.
17:52But that's why I'm telling you.
17:53To make it clear,
17:54she...
17:55Olga, perhaps,
17:56naively, let's say,
17:58lends her the digital signature,
18:00or gives her the digital signature,
18:01and well, from there,
18:02this fact happens.
18:03This person...
18:04That's why.
18:05Yesterday she presented,
18:06presented or sent a certification.
18:09But there's another certification
18:10where she says she's accusing,
18:12she's accusing...
18:13But the one from yesterday, no, Rafa.
18:15The one we showed yesterday, no, Rafa.
18:17Because if not,
18:18this program loses credibility.
18:20We can call Maria Luisa Lescano,
18:22because...
18:23No, I didn't deny anything.
18:24No, no.
18:25I mean, no,
18:26let's not deny the objective of this,
18:28which is...
18:29No, exactly.
18:30Again, Rafa,
18:31again, people coming in through the window
18:33with contradictions,
18:35not only in justice,
18:36already in the air,
18:37with contradictions in the air,
18:38Lescano,
18:39what Olga said yesterday,
18:40the document that later appears,
18:42that she did send the signature,
18:44but it was for something else,
18:45and...
18:46No, no, it's not true.
18:47But let's understand that this woman
18:48entered a federal court,
18:50she saw face to face with two federal prosecutors,
18:53with a federal judge,
18:54she said everything she had to say,
18:57she answered all the questions,
18:59she said she was a lawyer,
19:01that she was a lawyer.
19:02She forged Olga's papers,
19:03she forged Olga's reports.
19:05But how can it be
19:06that she entered through a door?
19:08She came out through the same door.
19:09She came out through the same door.
19:10Exactly.
19:11And no one asks her for explanations
19:12when, publicly,
19:13Olga Cortese says she's a liar,
19:15Rafa Palacios has a pile of evidence
19:18against her,
19:19but to the court...
19:21But not only...
19:22Let's see...
19:23To the court, she's a ghost, let's say.
19:25Not only this, Diego,
19:26and I also tell you,
19:27as a result of all this research that was done,
19:29with all the elements,
19:30and look, I took the trouble
19:31to talk to many people,
19:32going to places,
19:33you know what?
19:34She also started,
19:35in some way,
19:36acting in an intimidating way,
19:38especially if it's my person.
19:40I sent you an email
19:42that the Federal Police allegedly sent me
19:45in search of my whereabouts.
19:48I mean, I live in the same place,
19:50everyone knows me,
19:51I live two blocks and a half from the court,
19:53I have no problem...
19:54No, no, no,
19:55it's a business card.
19:56No, no, it's not a business card.
19:57It's a troll.
19:58To send a whereabouts certificate to Rafa...
20:00It's a threat.
20:01It's a threat.
20:02No, no, it's a threat,
20:03do you know why?
20:04Yes.
20:05Because they sent me an email first,
20:07and then,
20:08I'll explain it to you,
20:09I have a program in a school,
20:11in a school,
20:12and at school,
20:14they called the principal,
20:16the principal,
20:17pretending to be the Federal Police,
20:19asking for my whereabouts.
20:21This caused me serious situations at school,
20:23they gave many explanations of the case,
20:25and then they sent an email to the institution
20:27asking for my whereabouts.
20:29Sorry, this is a threat
20:30to a journalist.
20:31Exactly,
20:32and you know what?
20:34Then,
20:35I see in some chats,
20:36from some people,
20:37that it appears.
20:38What's more,
20:39I made this complaint,
20:40I went to the delegation
20:41of the Federal Police,
20:42and I introduced myself,
20:43and they told me,
20:44we never send an email.
20:45That's when I sent it to you,
20:46right?
20:47And that's fine,
20:48that's fine,
20:49Rafa,
20:50but listen to me,
20:51have you proven that
20:52it was her,
20:53the call?
20:54I'm not saying it was her,
20:55I'm saying that
20:56speaking of this investigation,
20:57these circumstances arise,
20:58and she,
20:59on many occasions,
21:00has said that
21:01I asked her
21:03for Rafael Palacio's whereabouts,
21:05and what a coincidence
21:06that this happens,
21:07they call a school,
21:08with the situation
21:09that provokes me,
21:10to give the institution
21:11the case.
21:12Could you denounce it?
21:13Could you denounce it?
21:14I denounced it,
21:15I denounced it,
21:16I denounced it
21:17to the Federal Police,
21:18and not only this,
21:19on top of that,
21:20they are so stupid,
21:21that the email they send,
21:22they send it
21:23from a cell phone,
21:24they don't send it
21:25from a computer,
21:26and on top of that,
21:27instead of saying
21:28Federal Police,
21:29they say Outlook,
21:30they say,
21:31Rafael Palacio,
21:32let's say,
21:33on top of that,
21:34I know who sent it,
21:35another journalist sent it,
21:36but do you know why this?
21:37Because,
21:38the truth is that
21:39I got tired of the subject,
21:40do you know why?
21:41I got tired of the subject
21:42when I started
21:43investigating this person,
21:44and this whole situation
21:45begins.
21:46Let's see,
21:47everything that is
21:48outside the framework
21:49of the law,
21:50must be denounced.
21:51But here,
21:52I don't work to say
21:53one is good,
21:54the other is bad.
21:55Those who were bad
21:56are bad,
21:57and I don't care about any of them.
21:58The only thing I care about
21:59is LOAN,
22:00and whoever interfered,
22:01whoever interfered
22:02so that the LOAN
22:03doesn't appear,
22:04must pay it
22:05before the court.
22:06Call Lescano,
22:07call if it is
22:08Cortese,
22:09call if it is
22:10Maciel,
22:11or call
22:12if it is also
22:13the prosecutor
22:14Carrillo,
22:15and what was
22:16Carrillo?
22:17Castillo.
22:18Castillo.
22:19Castillo.
22:20Castillo.
22:21Castillo.
22:22Castillo.
22:23Castillo.
22:24Castillo.
22:25Castillo.
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22:59Castillo.
23:00Castillo.
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23:02Castillo.
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23:05Castillo.
23:06Castillo.
23:07Castillo.
23:08Castillo.
23:09Castillo.
23:10Castillo.
23:11Castillo.
23:12Castillo.
23:13Castillo.
23:14Castillo.
23:15Castillo.
23:16Castillo.
23:17Castillo.
23:18Castillo.
23:19Castillo.
23:20Castillo.
23:21Castillo.
23:22Castillo.
23:23Castillo.
23:24Castillo.
23:25Castillo.
23:26Castillo.
23:27Castillo.
23:28Castillo.
23:29It does what the authorities tell it to do.
23:33The only thing the federal court has in its favor,
23:38and it's very broad, very big,
23:41is that the case was cleared in 20-odd days.
23:45You, with a case, in the first 20 days,
23:49it has to be resolved.
23:51And all of a sudden, a federal court sends it to you
23:54and tells you,
23:55hey, but you stained the whole court,
23:57you stained my boots, you stained my people,
24:00you stained a lot of things,
24:02or you stained a lot of things in the case.
24:04Obviously, it won't be easy to get to a good court.
24:07In fact, it's almost impossible to get to a good court
24:10in 20 days of, no, delay,
24:13but of maneuvers to hinder the case.
24:17So that's the only thing I can do for you.
24:19You know what's good too?
24:21And it would also be good
24:23for the prosecutor to be present in the hearings, right?
24:25Yes, of course. Obviously. Obviously.
24:28Why do you say that, Rafa?
24:30Yes, I understand.
24:31But why?
24:33Let me explain.
24:34At one point, obviously, through the media,
24:38he brought up this topic that wasn't present in the hearings,
24:40his secretary did it,
24:41then it reappeared in the hearings,
24:43and now it's again presented in the hearings.
24:45They're going to take measures
24:47in relation to that topic
24:48that in the next few days
24:49will surely be made known.
24:51But the inaction of some parts
24:55complicates this whole issue a lot, right?
24:58At this point.
24:59It has coincided with a good one.
25:01Sorry, Rafa. Olga, I wanted to ask you.
25:04Do you have more audio or more material
25:07that you haven't presented to the court yet
25:09and that you're preserving?
25:11No, I presented everything.
25:13Absolutely everything.
25:14Everything. Today the court has...
25:15Everything, the entire chat,
25:17photos, audio, video, everything I had.
25:20If you had to tell Alex Cano something,
25:23what would you tell him?
25:27No.
25:28I wouldn't go to that person
25:31to tell him anything.
25:33The only thing, my intention with all this
25:37was to know...
25:39I said it yesterday,
25:41it doesn't matter if my reports have been altered,
25:44because my reports may not have been relevant.
25:47What interested me was to know
25:49why she was there,
25:51and why she had...
25:53I mean, that was it.
25:55Because I also say goodbye to POR LOAN.
25:57Do you understand?
25:58I don't care about my cause.
26:01No, it's clear.
26:02Olga, thank you.
26:03For me, the last thing.
26:05Rafael, I wanted to ask you
26:06because people are writing to me
26:07who are watching us live.
26:09Today there is a meeting in Mitre Square
26:11in front of the court
26:13and they took out all the flags
26:15that they asked for POR LOAN.
26:16Do you know this?
26:19I have to corroborate it.
26:21The truth is that I'm not in front of the judge,
26:23but well, now I'm going to see it.
26:24Today at the meeting...
26:25Is Governor Valdés going to Goya?
26:28Yes, today at the meeting of Governor Valdés,
26:31precisely in Mitre Square,
26:33the 20-30 project is being done, let's say.
26:35Yes.
26:36It's called the project...
26:37Well, let's say it's a political issue.
26:3920-30.
26:40A political issue.
26:41But I say...
26:42Yes, yes, yes.
26:43They are saying...
26:44With Lieutenant Goya.
26:45Yes, with Lieutenant Goya.
26:46They are saying that the flags
26:47that you are claiming for POR LOAN
26:49were removed last night.
26:52The truth is that I don't know.
26:54I mean, I would have to go...
26:55I didn't play this morning.
26:57Obviously, I'm going to go.
26:59I have to go and do the coverage
27:01of this event too, but...
27:03Check that, please.
27:04Check that if they took out
27:05all the POR LOAN flags.
27:06Yes, I'm going to...
27:07Obviously, I'm going to check it.
27:10Don't tell him, Rafa.
27:12To be honest...
27:13The last thing.
27:14The last thing.
27:15I want to tell you
27:16that this threat...
27:17I know it's a business threat
27:19and so on.
27:20On Saturday,
27:21we were in a press conference
27:23in the province of Corrientes,
27:25where all these issues were discussed.
27:27And Claudia Gaudenzi was there,
27:29who is the general secretary
27:31of SPADPREM,
27:32the Argentine Association
27:33of Press Workers,
27:34to which I am affiliated.
27:35I clarify.
27:36And they are going to take
27:37the necessary measures
27:38against these people
27:39who are, in some way,
27:40intimidating.
27:41I wanted to make this clear.
27:42I wanted to make this clear
27:43because I think
27:44that we have to go that way.
27:45Not only by doing it in a public way,
27:47but also the way we do it.
27:49A big hug.
27:50A big hug, Rafa.
27:51We'll talk tomorrow.