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00:00Yes, and then, Gemma, Jono just touched on it.
00:04Everybody and every side right here is blaming each other.
00:08There doesn't seem to be any resolution.
00:11It's hard to see a world where they could agree right now
00:14and de-escalation and diplomacy could come into play.
00:18Yeah, I don't think we're going to see that for a while.
00:21Tensions are escalating.
00:24And obviously this is a conflict that has been played out
00:27over decades and cost thousands of lives.
00:31So this is not something that's going to be sorted out
00:34in the next couple of weeks,
00:36especially as previously the US were so instrumental
00:40in brokering talks between the two nations
00:43and Trump is quite otherwise engaged
00:47with everything else that's going on.