On this episode of Screen Babble, Kelly, Matt and Benji are bringing you the down low on sleeper cinema blockbuster Sinners, think vampires in the deep south - with music. We'll chat all things Eurovision, the good, the bad and the ugly as well as the runners and riders. Finally, we couldn't let Celebrity Big Brother 2025 go by without a mention but as you will hear, what we really wanted to discuss is who are the worst CBB contestants of all time.
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00:00hello and welcome back to screen babble today we're looking at the upcoming tv extravaganza
00:18that is jazz hands your vision alongside sinners a recent cinema release which is making waves and
00:25finally we couldn't let it go without some analysis of celebrity big brother 2025 although
00:30it does feel like it was in a different year at this stage i'm your host kelly creighton and i'm
00:35joined by national world critics benjamin jackson and matt mohan hickson to tell us what's hot and
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01:10the best in tv and film we're talking your vision shortly looking at the runners and riders and the
01:16controversy which is never far from the door these days we'll put all but we're going to put all uh
01:22those hours we wasted watching celebrity big brother to good use to when we discuss what kind of year it
01:28was and who we think uh made the worst housemates ever ever in the series in the history of celebrity
01:35big brother but first sinners matt i have to admit this passed me by a little bit so talk to us about
01:44this movie which i think is remarkable for a couple of reasons potentially
01:47yeah um we've switched to root it for this episode haven't we i'm doing film and benji's doing tv
01:53yeah yeah version of the podcast today oh it's spring bizarro world
02:00it's your version well speaking of bizarro world uh yeah sinners so it's from ryan coogler who is
02:10the uh director behind both of the black panther movies you know the marvel and the good marvel
02:15movies yeah yeah yeah we'd have to point that out yeah uh creed you know with michael b jordan back
02:20in the sort of mid-2000s the rocky sort of spin-off review uh that was surprisingly good like i remember
02:28when that came out everyone was like oh this is better than it should be yeah yeah it does sound it
02:33sounds like a bad idea doesn't it in the first place yeah because it's like don't miss with the
02:36classics but okay go on yeah so yeah and black panther was obviously like that was like just
02:43such a big event wasn't it back back in the day i mean it was really good for a marvel film you know
02:48and that sounds like damning with fame breaks but yeah they all end in those like cgi slugfest on
02:55there so yes yes yes yes managed to be good even with that ending yeah but yeah it's his first film
03:02sort of first original film since his debut back in 2013 which is oh it's a long time isn't it
03:08yeah so um and it's a vampire movie uh no spoilers there uh big part of the promo around that and
03:16it's set in jim crow era mississippi delta so like 1930s i think prohibition's still going on there's
03:24mentions of al capone and michael b jordan plays twin brothers who are sort of have left chicago having
03:31sort of under a cloud they were involved with the gangs up there and they've returned home to set
03:38up a what they call a duke joint so like a music bar like a music club where they're going to be uh
03:44sort of yeah showcasing local musicians and having a good time i'm getting out like don of the dead
03:50vibes already here yeah yeah things go very wrong um but it's it's yeah it's surprisingly
03:57slow not not in a bad way just in that it doesn't like just get straight to it it's not like so a
04:05vampire film but not action packed as it were when it gets to it it's action packed but it's it's more
04:12it takes its time to get there so that when it arrives it's all the more sort of devastating
04:18yeah okay sounds good a big a big part of i think why it like sort of popped off and became
04:24the hit is obviously it's good it's like yeah good movies people go and see good movies people want to
04:29talk about good movies but i remember i was sort of on the fence about it and then i saw a clip of
04:36ryan kugler on kodak you know the cameras uh kodak he did this like explainer about all the different
04:43types of like film that they use like over the years it's really really good it's about 10 minutes
04:49long and he sort of explains different formats what imax is what always what you'll see and he
04:56sort of shows different clips of the film and so all right if you're seeing it in a standard with
05:01dolby this is what you'll see if you've seen it in imax you'll see this and it's sort of yeah
05:06first time i think anyone's really like i've seen anyone really explain like what's the point of
05:11imax i just thought it's interesting it's kind of like it's kind of like he's done a collaboration
05:16with kodak obviously to promote the film or maybe use the cameras or whatever yeah yeah yeah i think
05:21i think yeah they use this like a specific like custom made panavision camera so i don't know
05:27okay interesting kodak arms panavision or something so okay yeah yeah yeah yeah like it's worked in a
05:33way if it's got you talking about it yeah yeah okay yeah it's it's just there's something really
05:39specific about it as well which i think you know often movies sort of try to be as broad as possible
05:48to be a success you don't you want bring as many people in as possible yeah what's to call it four
05:54quadrant isn't that that's the term i think the business term where you try to get everyone from
05:58everywhere and this movie is very very specifically like black american jim crow experiences um i do advise
06:07that people from the uk you might have to be ready to pay attention because they have very
06:13like strong accents really that's that's strong wow yeah like i did leave the film like oh i'm a bit
06:19tired there you know so if you're at home you can stick on the subtitles yeah exactly like it's a movie
06:25that yeah subtitles when it's at home you probably need not in a bad way like you can still understand
06:30it's all the same but it's very strong southern accent so okay which also i guess adds that
06:35authentic feeling at all and it's all you know it's all filmed on sets and it all looks like
06:41sort of 1930s and yeah it just it feels grand that's one of the big things it feels like epic it doesn't
06:50feel like a oh here's a 90 minute horror movie that you yeah pick on when you're with your mates
06:55stevens and pizza you know uh yeah i well this is what i'm kind of getting to i i kind of feel like
07:00there's two things one it's um horror movies seem to be becoming a thing again um and the other thing
07:08is um like i said this has kind of come out of nowhere which sometimes to me anyway i didn't i
07:15haven't heard about this until recently and i feel like uh it's great when that happens because
07:21there's usually it usually does mean that the film is quite good you know it's not like one of these
07:25bit over hyped things like it's actually kind of doing well off its own merit you know so you kind of
07:33trust that it's going to be good more but what what do you think are the elements that have made it so
07:39popular well i i think it's the sort of movie i think the reason why it's got such word of mouth
07:47it's the sort of movie that when you leave you just want to talk about it like there's so much
07:51in there to dive in yeah there's great like you know scares and go but there's you know
07:58is it one of those like is there a is there a scope for part two i mean possibly like i think
08:06like yeah maybe but i mean it's a vampire like if they wanted to do more they could find other ways
08:13they can just just find some more vampires yeah history like yeah yeah but what about you benji
08:18have you have you seen it well no i was gonna go to the cinema to watch it but i couldn't get a
08:23screening so if that's a testament how the word of mouth has worked over here oh wow so they were
08:28sold out they were sold out yeah you know they were it was a weekend session as well so i was quite
08:33surprised um mad yeah but i i've been a long time fan of ryan coogler going back to uh fruit veil
08:39station which i believe was his feature film debut and it's nice to see the flowers he's received it's
08:46the most critically regarded film he's done which is saying something as matt mentioned you know
08:52black panther was well received like panther was more was more kind of more than just a cinema
08:59outing it was quite a a big landmark moment um culturally for a lot of people um but yeah it's
09:0798 as of writing ladies and gentlemen on uh rotten tomatoes oh amazing uh he it was a budget of 100
09:16million uh according to box office mojo currently it's taken in uh well we're coming up to 187
09:25million dollars the only movies that have done better than that uh both uh ips that belong to disney
09:33both black panther and black panther wakanda forever but yeah so obviously this this film is
09:39disney don't have any hand in this film no it's it's i think it was warner brothers so okay
09:44i think it would be it'll be like sky that'll end up on first because they're okay right right right
09:51and it is general release it's not limited release it's not yeah everywhere yeah that's good
09:57positive all the different times i don't know where i don't what rock i've been under but i've
10:01yeah maybe i've just been zoned out a bit from movie stuff and it leads us nicely into eurovision
10:07because it is surprisingly musical oh no oh yeah it's not a musical but there is like a strong
10:15music element and i will not ruin for anyone who's not seen it but there is a scene that involves music
10:21in this film that is unlike anything i've seen like it's honestly it's like transcendent like i think
10:28that's part like part of the reason why people love this film so much is this scene that's just
10:33yeah okay oh my it's jaws on the floor do you know what just popped into my head um transcendent you
10:40say there you go it feels like a bit of a religious experience transcendent like the musical um special
10:49episodes of buffy the vampire slayer oh no it's got i i that was the least favorite episode of buffy
10:58i was gonna say isn't that your favorite bingy move on move on oh i love it i love it i love a musical
11:05anything to be honest with you like it would have to be a very bad day for me not to enjoy a random
11:11show tune in the middle of something i don't get me wrong i like musicals it's that weird situation where
11:17i think i hate musicals but i like more musicals than i let on like yeah yeah musicals what about
11:23greece you're in denial you're totally in denial exactly no i think i've just outed myself publicly
11:29on this podcast and video series so i benjamin jackson i'm a fan of musicals you know if it's me
11:38leaning into no musicals more not my kind of thing i'm just doing it for the lads around the pub table
11:43like hey that's it well i'll tell you one thing right i always bang on about this the there was
11:48an irish film came out a few years ago same year as la la land called sing street and it is a hundred
11:55times the movie if you i was raging that year because i was like everyone was so hyped about
12:07la la land and i was like it's grand it's fine sing street is a brilliant movie so there's my tip for a
12:14musical modern musical if you haven't and i mean it's a very traditional sort of setup but i think
12:19you'd enjoy it but anyway moving on from that i the other cinema thing that's been happening recently
12:23which has caused a few headlines was this mad mad random uh not face what's the word i'm looking
12:30for like trend or or thing that people were going into cinemas minecraft chicken jockey yeah
12:40anytime chicken jack was mentioned in the film they were gonna like shout or scream or throw popcorn
12:45around or act like lunatics or whatever and i was like i've no idea where this came from but it did
12:50make me think like has anything strange ever happened to you guys when you've been in the cinema
12:55well i mean what about you oh well i made i i went to see the room with no idea that the room had
13:04become quite this big meme of like you know midnight movies like rocky horror picture show where okay you
13:11sing along and interact so i'm there trying to watch this guy gonna like character study about the
13:16failing relationship of a man around the manosphere going on which i'm really really really kind of
13:23like just uh glazing up that that movie aren't i and then all of a sudden people started talking
13:30along to the dialogue and then all of a sudden a wave of plastic spoons get thrown at the screen
13:37i had no idea that it that it was like a particular screening to to do and interact with the movie
13:45itself okay it was acceptable yeah he sat there like yeah taking notes i understand yeah you know oh hi mark
13:56yeah i i know mark now i'm spoons everywhere like what the hell is going on i've learned since i've
14:05learned since but yeah that was it was a thing yeah what about you man anything um well i mean i mean
14:11sinners sort of i it was funny there was a guy sat next to us in the cinema and at one point during the
14:20film um one of the characters singing like a irish jig sort of like irish folk song and he goes it's a
14:27musical happy with that but yeah it was horrible but going back years ago when the film contagion
14:38first came out went to see that in the cinemas i think it must have come out in like winter
14:42and like one of us had like a cough and someone just like showing like get out they were obviously
14:48so like started by the film they were just like just didn't yeah they were like they were gonna
14:55catch it i don't think it was yeah that's hilarious hey man you know that guy that went to see sinners
15:01that exclaimed it's a musical please tell me you jazz hand in the cinema as well i was looking at the
15:07screen benji he was up tap dancing by the end of it yeah yeah i guess you have to do that when you
15:12pay money to go to a cinema watch the screen they like it's not people yeah exactly yeah a couple of
15:17years cheap anymore a couple of years back um i took my youngest to see it was the first time going to
15:23the cinema to see mario brothers and at some sort of high action point kind of later in the film
15:29when mario is on some sort of remission she shouted go mario and the whole stick erupted in
15:37laughter but it was really lovely it's a nice memory of her first trip to the cinema
15:42she was actually kind of you know the way the seats are quite heavy she was sort of falling
15:45through the back of it she was that small i kept having to put my hand on it to keep her upright you
15:49know but um yeah it was funny it was funny oh i enjoyed that okay well brilliant thank you that was
15:55sinners in cinemas now catch it while you can get your ticket in advance unlike benji right moving on
16:03so much to say about eurovision could do a whole podcast series on eurovision never mind an episode
16:07so yeah it's turned into an absolute it's a absolute giant tv event every year now uh i remember when
16:16it came to ireland in 1993 it was about staged about sort of half an hour away from my house and it was
16:22basically in like a converted cow shed it was this sort of show jumping arena um in rural ireland i mean
16:28there's literally like a village and a train station there i'm pretty sure now we wouldn't even have
16:33a facility in the whole of ireland to house this thing maybe one of the rugby stadiums so talk to
16:39us about modern eurovision and what we can expect from 2025 the final is on the 17th of may but nowadays
16:45we have this sort of week run up where there's loads of stuff happening in the whole city and two
16:52semi-finals are televised as well in that week but the uk obviously being one of the big five
16:59gets a passport straight to the final unlike some other countries um so yeah i'm not better over to
17:05you benji tell us that island entry it wasn't my lovely horse was it in 93 i think we won it again
17:12in 93 and it went to dublin after that neve cavana in your eyes try we won two or three years in a row
17:17i'm not allowed to make far for ted references anymore well i tell you now before we even start
17:21right my lovely horse is brilliant okay but anyway um we are par with sweden ireland is on
17:28par with sweden for the most wins and this year could be the shattering of the irish dream which to
17:35be fair we're never going to win it again we don't have the i don't know we just don't seem to i
17:41thought last year bambi thug was quite uh i mean let's be honest if we can last year's eurovision
17:48could be like you mentioned an entire podcast yeah yeah yeah everything that could go wrong
17:55there's a little bit more structure no one's going to be silly no one's going to be antagonistic
18:01you would hope but no you're right so we have two semi-finals taking place before the grand final
18:07place at saint jacob charles in bale switzerland being held in switzerland this year by virtue of
18:14nemo's the code winning last year's eurovision song contest so uh the first semi-final is scheduled to
18:22take place next tuesday that's gonna have iceland poland slovenia estonia ukraine sweden who i hate to
18:30say kelly are one of the favorites again this year yeah strong strong song yeah yeah portugal norway
18:37belgium as a bayan san marino albania the favorite this year which is the netherlands celebi by claude
18:45croatia and cyprus and then out of them they will move on to the final and then on thursday you've got
18:54uh the second semi-final including montenegro uh emmy from ireland with like a party which i like to be
19:02honest with you kelly because i don't know i like well like i'm a bit of a space nerd cool latvia
19:08armenia austria greece lithuania malta georgia denmark czechia luxembourg israel serbia finland and
19:16one of my favorite songs that i've been listening to a track called milkshake man by gojo that's this
19:22year's australian entry so fingers crossed they make it through uh to the finals that are taking
19:30place now you mentioned about the big five and of course there's been a lot of discussion about
19:36remember monday's inclusion i've been asked about what i felt about this year's eurovision entry for
19:43united kingdom i like it i think it's got all the kind of formulas that you would need for a successful
19:50eurovision song um there was a study that's been done which we will be publishing uh over on i think
19:57it's the yorkshire post uh regarding what is the formula for the best eurovision song uh studies have
20:04shown that a strong female element is always favorable with the judges so okay take that yeah um there's a
20:12certain level of stadium rock to it and i think it's comparable to sam rider who did very well i
20:20think we can all admit he's the uk's biggest success really of the last 20 years probably of modern
20:27let's say like modern eurovision yeah yeah um and i i really like their entry because i think it does
20:34kind of you know ebbs between the poppy eurovision trash element that people always seem to yeah
20:43believe that you know it's a eurovision song it's going to be pat it's going to be awful but also that
20:48stadium rock that you know people that go and see the live shows really enjoy so i think politics aside
20:57we'll put the block voting over there for now thank you i think england has got a good chance but
21:02they're not the favorites they are not the favorites by a long shot i purposely watched
21:09ireland uk and the three top the three favorites last night and to me the uk was the weakest now i
21:17watched a live version of it and i thought they were a bit pitchy they're singing now that i mean i
21:22can't sing i am no one to criticize anybody singing but i i wonder if they're going to fall down on
21:28the actual live performance but well yeah i mean i think
21:32i didn't like me ollie completely collapsed in his life performance was that last year the year
21:37before when ollie his life performance was terrible and he had no case of may muller's
21:43may muller's from the year before it was just her with a whole bunch of it felt like a tick tock reel
21:49behind her it just you know then you had sam rider playing about production like ufo construction so
21:56well that did well though that did well my god we could talk about we could talk about this till the cows come
22:01home but let's talk about so the top three um sweden our favorite that is a funny it's a kind of
22:09tongue-in-cheek it's about it's the sauna they kind of say in the middle it's really catchy
22:15it's funny the dancing is funny there's sort of semi-naked people in a sauna for half of it
22:21on the production i presume they're going to be similar to what they used in the uh
22:24they're they're the swedish competition um what do you think those top three france is very sincere
22:31power ballad mama i presume it's about mothers um and the second favorite is
22:40is it is it austria benji who's second favorite oh right so there are uh thanks to odds checker of
22:47course uh those are the current odds uh for eurovision as it stands so yes sweden's cash
22:54bada bada bastu is the favorite followed by austria's jj wasted love luan i mean one of the big five
23:03there my man 12 to one uh israel 14 to one new day will rise and claude celebi 14 to one now now you've
23:12got those odds in front of you kelly and from what you've seen what's your pick i i sweden probably
23:18it's it's just got the novelty plus it's a catchy tune it's a catchy um chorus though i liked wasted
23:26love i think that was my favorite the second one it's quite sincere kind of ballad initially but it
23:31turns into a massive banger about halfway through like you mentioned way before we started it i think
23:38most of the eyes uh this year are gonna be are sweden gonna finally claim their eighth eurovision
23:44title and break that dead heat between themselves and ireland we will find out when it gets screened
23:50on bbc one on saturday the 17th of may i have a feeling if they brought lorraine back they would
23:56win it every year i loved think about things which was supposed to be the icelandic entry for
24:10doddy fair and his band in 2022 but obviously it got cancelled so he never they ever never got to
24:15perform which was a shame because i think it could have been a winner but the following year 2023
24:21which came second from finland i love that i thought it was completely unhinged it was
24:26just it was kind of rock metal meets ballroom dancing it was absolutely brilliant the
24:30the choreography was brilliant i just loved it it just had me up and literally jumping around the
24:34place so yeah um and as i say they came second that year behind lorraine she could sing the phone
24:42book and she'd win the eurovision and that's eurovision 2025 right part three guys celebrity big
24:51brother we couldn't let it go without a wee chat uh to reminisce and all those hours we spent uh
24:58wasted in april um a vintage year i think not although i thought it was a fairly strong lineup at the
25:04start and i enjoyed the first few days i thought it kind of petered out a bit um and i think you might
25:09agree as well that it was a surprising winner based on what happened in the house so matt uh what do you think
25:17yeah so i've never really been a big big brother or celebrity big brother guy like i was a contrarian
25:25teen when it was in its head of the 2000s so i avoided it like the plague back then but i thought
25:32yeah it was okay i thought like there was some good stuff like it did run out of steam i felt like towards
25:39the end yeah the last three or four days were kind of boring yeah just yeah and i think obviously mickey
25:46rock was a disaster that they probably should have just like had better like yeah they should
25:53have thought better about including him like he he didn't know where he was did he like you know
26:00it was like he wasn't briefed in the slightest i'm sure he was but it was like he literally did not
26:04know how the show worked how the voting worked how the nominations worked he didn't know physically
26:08where he needed to be what it meant like he was like it was as if he there was a paycheck and that
26:15was all he saw and it was like oh yeah i can handle anything um i'm sure they could have found another
26:21like sort of mercenary older actor that wants a nice big paycheck that actually you know what i'm
26:27sure it did exactly what they wanted it to do which was he caused a few fights he caused some
26:32consternation everybody was kind of trying to look after him and there was this reverence towards him
26:37which is it was it really deserved i'm not sure okay he's made some good films but like
26:42what a strange person you know and he treated people kind of badly so yeah but he did exactly
26:48i think he did exactly what they wanted him to do basically honestly like i've got to take itv to
26:54task they've got to stop putting coronation street people in their reality shows because they keep
26:59winning and like you just know who's going to win like yeah yeah if there's a cory person in anything
27:04like dancing on ice this year was won by cory yeah this was won by cory if yes spoiler alert although i'm
27:10sure everybody's like um i'm sure everybody's seen it but so jack shepard won he's coronation street
27:18and he was actually up for nomination to her three times at the start because the housemates
27:22he was pissing off the housemates basically yeah as was um oh i've forgotten her name the actress that
27:28plays bianca and eastenders is she but julie i think is her real name yeah patsy parmer she again
27:37kept getting nominated kept up for eviction and the public kept her in and you're like she doesn't want
27:42to be there i don't know why the public keep voting for these soap stars it's weird it's like voting for
27:47your neighbor or something do people feel that kind of akin to them or or whatever but sorry i interrupted you
27:52there matt yeah you're you're right soap stars winning things it's a bit of a trend yeah yeah i
27:58wonder yeah maybe it's just that familiarity thing isn't it that people have watched them for 25 years
28:04like david platt they just go i vote for him yeah exactly like i really like danny beard i thought
28:10danny beard so did i wanted him to win as well i did yeah i thought he was the most balanced
28:16housemate like the most kind of real had the most real take on things you know so i was surprised i
28:21thought he'd win it when it came down to the last two but alas no what about you benji did you watch
28:27it uh not really i kind of tapped out on big brother after the whole uh drama that was shil
28:33pochetti jay goody yeah uh but i did pop in when i first came back to the uk because i wanted to show
28:41my wife what this big brother thing was unfortunately it was the uh she let me the big brother year that
28:47gary boozy oh god yeah i don't know if you realized where he was or not similar with mickey
28:54rock he won it though i just can't believe that gary boozy wow yeah yeah audrey harrison came second
29:02but um yeah i i dip in and out i think is probably the best way like a good voyeur should i have a
29:11little sneaky peek when there's something salacious happening and then oh i can't watch that and clutch my
29:16pills and walk away so and it's been a hot minute since i've sat down and actually watched
29:21an entire season it's only two weeks now as well three weeks three yeah i find though when i start
29:29watching it i'm like i get hooked into it that's the thing because you kind of get i think the rhythm
29:34yeah and you get your allegiances to the different characters and you're like you kind of want them to
29:39do well you know um but i did find the last few days was like just a giant waste of time
29:44but um yeah that's interesting i can't believe he won it that year god yeah it's strange i think maybe
29:49for maybe for some of the similar reasons that jack shepherd won which is people who are very
29:55unemotional and kind of real sort of seem to do better in these things as well it's like the public
30:03there was an awful lot of like sharing of people's feelings and you hurt my feelings when you said this
30:09and you hurt my feelings when you said that and then jack didn't buy into any of that he had not a
30:13single conversation about his emotions even when he got this letter this beautiful letter from his
30:18fiance he was like yeah she's good she's good he wasn't like i love her to bits i can't wait to marry
30:24her or like you know she lights up my life or i just really love her whatever it was like she's good and
30:29everyone was like oh gushing about her i thought it was hilarious but that seems to pay off you
30:34know this sort of old-fashioned like stiff upper lip attitude seems to do well but anyway i don't
30:41know i don't get it fully to be honest with you but anyway who you mentioned gary buce bucey there benji
30:46who else do you think were one of the worst housemates of all time oh i mean that's difficult i mean i
30:53i ended up watching a couple of uh clips yesterday just to be a bit more first kim woodburn looked
30:59like she was a a piece of work when she was in uh the celebrity she talked down to everybody yeah i
31:05remember she was like absolutely yeah i mean and they're not a celebrity but we go back to the first
31:12one nasty nick bateman still lives on in my memory as like very the very first season of this show and
31:21you're already trying to rig it and it was the best the best i watched the whole confrontation around
31:28the kitchen table the morning after with craig going yeah you've been playing games haven't you
31:33yeah i've seen you writing down you know but isn't it so funny that the problem isn't it so funny that
31:38the main controversy around it back then was people trying to win it by cheating like that's not even
31:46a thing anymore do you know what i mean they there's no yeah there was just such a normal kind of like
31:51sit down we're going to talk this one out because we're not happy and then five years later you had
31:56fight night with uh what was it victor and emma and the whole when security yeah and they cut the
32:03feed off at 2 a.m in the morning because it just got crazy they stopped giving them as much alcohol
32:09after that you very rarely see them drunk these days but back then they were always getting drunk
32:13weren't they they always gave them loads of booze yeah interesting danielle lloyd and joe mira for
32:18obvious reasons are probably my least favorite you know i know jade got a lot of the flack for her
32:23comments but it was like watching two kids standing behind the schoolyard bully horrible and snickering
32:30really i just during the exit interviews i just felt like they didn't really show as much remorse
32:36as they should that was just no they didn't have a clue yeah no i just thought that entire
32:41year with shilpa shetty was an absolute mess and had it was perhaps i think it probably did a little
32:46bit of damage ever did a little bit of damage to um big brother that year and obviously jade
32:52her career was in tatters after that as well um yeah i was reminded actually because i looked up a few as
32:59well yesterday of in 2018 when roxanne pallet she's an she was an actress she accused ryan
33:05thomas of punching her do you remember this yeah and like he kind of whatever he kind of play punched
33:10her tapped her on the shoulder or whatever it was complete madness like it was on film we could see
33:17what happened and she was like crying in the diary room saying he punched her it was i don't know
33:22what she thought she was going to get away with or what kind of sympathy vote she was going to get or what
33:26but it was absolutely cringy and i i haven't seen or heard from her since so i you know that didn't
33:32do her any good obviously prez hilton was also terrible when he was in he was just very erratic
33:38anyone that can make katie hopkins look human is is a bad big brother yes and that we're not talking
33:45about her the one moment that always sticks out to me in celebrity big brother is that moment that
33:55when angie david bowie's ex-wife was told about his death off camera and she comes out and she told
34:03tiffany pollard another one of the housemates that he had died and tiffany took it up that david guest had
34:09died who was another one of the housemates and there was like this she started like cracking up like
34:15really emotional really upset and anyway it resolved itself after a little while they realized
34:20no it's not david that's in the house it's david angie's ex-husband out in the real world or whatever
34:24but it was weird and wild and you're like how is this happening oh my god and seeing how somebody
34:30reacted into this thing that you feel like wouldn't have happened in real life you know what i mean
34:35um but yeah that's that always sticks out in my mind what about you matt any any particular
34:41on disliked celebrities from previous brothers i guess mickey rock i i this is the first one i've
34:49properly watched so i think he's yeah the first one that stands up to me i guess yeah he'll go down
34:55sorry yeah i was gonna say like yeah yeah he'll go down in infamy for me definitely definitely oh we
35:02again we could do a whole series about big brother celebrity brother but you know what we
35:07gotta limit ourselves so thank you both and thank you for joining us today next time we'll be looking
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