Seth Payne and Sean Pendergast discuss what the biggest gut punch was watching the 1st round of the NFL Draft before and after the Texans traded out of it.
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00:00The Texans trade out of the first round last night 25th overall pick they went into the night with
00:05they leave the night with the 34th overall pick which will be the second pick tonight in the
00:10process they pick up another third round pick 99th overall they'll use that tonight possibly
00:16and then a third round pick in 2026 so the net of all of it is they've got five picks tonight they
00:22didn't pick anybody last night but they've got two second round picks three third round picks
00:26tonight and they've got extra seconds thirds and fourths in next year's draft which um we'll we'll
00:33talk about the draft inventory and what it means but the specific players that were flying off the
00:38board last night that at times you were probably looking at the tv screen going oh man he's available
00:43boy I hope I see the Texans at the bottom of the screen here with a trade up to get this guy that
00:47was me I was like that for sure we're gonna go through each of the individual guys that maybe
00:51we're feeling some FOMO over today that they're not Houston Texans a lot of techs weighing in on
00:57this as well before we get to both of those things here was Nick Casario talking about the Texans
01:02strategy last night uh yeah not like I would say middle teens middle to kind of upper teens like
01:07start to look a little bit like all right what are we looking at what are our options are where some
01:11of these teams and try to kind of get an idea as again not wait till 25 I'd say some teams had a
01:18pretty good idea and that 18 they were potentially looking to move out um so then it's all right who
01:25are you moving out for what are you doing what do you have to give up so those are all the things
01:30I honestly I mean I know we didn't pick but like we probably were more active and had as many
01:34discussions as any draft hasn't been a part of so that's the thing about and we've talked about this
01:40everything's fluid you just got to be flexible you got to be adaptable you got to be ready to move
01:43got to take the information you have a pretty good sense or feel for what you think's going on
01:48the rest of the league I mean honestly a lot of the guys that were picked and where they were picked
01:52didn't surprise us they may have surprised some other people because they weren't thought of to
01:55go that high but honestly I mean to me when I talked before the draft and we said when I talked to even
02:02some agents this guy's going to go way higher than people think he's going to go and they agreed and
02:08you know we were right doesn't mean we're right on everything it just means we had a sense and a feel
02:12for maybe how we thought this was going to go who is the player he's referring to there
02:16Tyler Booker 100 percent 100 percent Tyler Booker because and if Nick had taken Tyler Booker at 25
02:23the ironic thing is uh a huge chunk of people amongst Texans fans would have crushed Nick for
02:29reaching for Tyler Booker yeah or you know for caring for caring more about swarm traits than
02:34anything else know this as much as you hate the Cowboys the Cowboys are really really good at
02:38drafting that's why they're that's why they're still a credible football team yeah it's because
02:42they're really really good at drafting and they take Tyler Booker 12th overall I think that what
02:47Nick alluded to there where around the high teens is when they started maybe aggressively thinking
02:52about trading up Grace Abel goes at 18 yep and you look at the players at positions of need or that
02:58had been linked to the Texans that were still out and then Abuka Matthew Golden Donovan Jackson you got
03:05you got four guys there in the next six or seven picks or so that the math doesn't quite add up so
03:11you know what you want to just get a get up a few spots so that one of those guys if those are the
03:16guys he had identified yeah and maybe they like Derek Harmon the defensive tackle as well so but he's
03:22he he ended up being gone um it makes sense that I bet the Gray's a ball there's a good chance of
03:27Gray's a ball selection by the Seahawks is what triggered really wanting to move up yeah we got a run
03:31on guys that they liked was was starting to start and the price was and the price was uh not what
03:37Nick thought you know was in line with moving up to get those guys we'll talk about the specific
03:41players that the Texans missed out on possibly uh double definitely missed out on they're not Houston
03:47Texans today you know what the text how the Texans graded them we have no idea but we know how we
03:51graded them and how much we wanted these guys I do want to read a few texts because these are good
03:55lead-ins here I don't think the Texans is a text message Jim Adler the Texas Hammer text line
03:59don't think the Texans got fleeced but I also don't like the strategy of bringing in middle
04:03of the road players for competition that doesn't improve the talent level markedly the Patriot way
04:10strikes again right right right right right right I get it I understand what you're saying but this
04:14is the problem and this is where I actually admire Nick it's that Nick as our most good GMs are way less
04:20arrogant about their ability to say who is and is not a good player yeah then a lot of people
04:27following the draft yeah and like okay I'm sorry I didn't realize Kamari Lasseter was just an average
04:33upgrade I'm sorry I don't realize that Kalen Bullock doesn't have a whole lot of promise I didn't
04:38realize that those guys uh aren't put our young talent on your team yeah it really is a matter of
04:45and you don't find out really for two or three or four years on a lot of guys it's just to believe
04:51that somehow the 25th pick that's top tier talent yeah yeah but the 34th pick is like oh what a bomb
04:57well that's just depth and competition like it's uh it's honestly Sean the whole the whole thought
05:03of like you know the people beforehand telling me Josh Simmons won't be available at 25 oh you get
05:08Tyler Booker in the second round this is the kind of arrogance that leads nations to lose wars
05:14they this is what leads to financial collapses yeah it's this unfounded arrogance that you know
05:21exactly how these guys are going to play out right yeah it's not like get over yourself humanity it's
05:27it's not like they traded out of five to go down to 34 it's the 25th and the 34th got like Tyler
05:33Booker himself was going anywhere from 12 to 45 in mock drafts like nobody knows yeah don't worry
05:40we'll roll right into Ukraine it'd be no big deal probably be over in three days yeah yeah yeah um
05:45the um the the here's a text message it's I think a good lead into what you and I are about to talk
05:50about here good morning guys Seth I had three punches in the gut in this draft okay Booker going
05:57to the Cowboys oh the Bucks taking a Buka when they already had two good wide receivers on their team
06:02Godwin Godwin with a horrific injury though so yeah yeah I think that's it you're right well I'm glad
06:08you mentioned that that that is a tell as to maybe where Godwin is physically right now um and then
06:13the third one was Green Bay taking Golden so close to our pick what was your of all the guys Tyler
06:19Booker the name of Booker by far Tyler Donovan Jackson Matthew Golden Kelvin Banks a Buka all of
06:26them Tyler Booker is the biggest one for you and in terms of Tyler Booker being a guy that just fits
06:31exactly what the Texans are hoping to do on the offensive line is change the culture not just
06:38upgrade the talent people gush and gush and gush Daniel Jeremiah said that Tyler Booker has gotten
06:46more gushing over his intangibles than anybody other than Will Anderson really like so people love him
06:53he plays with physicality and you go back to scouting reports before the combine and the people
07:00they were watching Tyler Booker did not cite his athleticism as an issue they didn't say that his
07:06athleticism was a plus but then he tests poorly at the combine and all of a sudden all these guys
07:11that thought Tyler Booker was going to go midway through the first round downgraded him to a high
07:15second round pick yeah Tyler Booker hurts because it was and the Cowboys are really good at drafting
07:21that's what they they are very good at drafting they have a harder time retaining and re-signing and all
07:26that um in avoiding paternity suits but the the yeah that was a kick in the gut that was I think
07:32the Texans were really hoping to get Tyler Booker or at least it wouldn't surprise me yeah and and so
07:37for you that was the one where you're like oh um and then he went that high he went 12th overall he
07:42went 12th he went 12th now the Texans have moved up from 25 to 12 before to get to Sean Watson it cost
07:48them a first round pick would you have would you have given I wouldn't have given up a first round pick
07:52to go get Tyler Booker but would you have what would you have given up in the moment if if you
07:57could move up I don't look I don't know uh dude I'm I'm awful okay gotcha um Tyler Booker uh Tyler
08:05Booker was a big one for me um the biggest one for me was Matthew Golden you guys know I wanted
08:10Matthew Golden that was the guy that I that that was that was the guy that I wanted um he slipped
08:17the two junctures in the draft where I'm like okay the the parts of the draft where I was most
08:22concerned about Matthew Golden getting taken Seth were at Dallas at 12 so them taking Booker there
08:30for me there was a you know there's a consolation prize like all right they didn't take Matthew
08:34Golden they need a wide receiver the Cowboys do they need weapons um Arizona at I believe the Arizona's
08:41at 17 16 17 somewhere in there 16 because the Bengals picked 17 Arizona was one that he was
08:48getting mocked to quite a bit and then that that little Denver that Denver Chargers early 20s area
08:56right I thought once he got past the Chargers at 22 I was really optimistic that Matthew Golden was
09:02going to be there at 25 for the Texans and when right the Packers Packers went and took him and that
09:07was the biggest when when when Matt Murphy the uh or Michael Murphy whichever whatever his first name
09:12is the president of the Packers Mr. Murphy when he said with the 23rd pick the Packers do something
09:18we haven't done since 2002 or whatever it is I'm like oh they're taking a wide receiver and it's
09:25Matthew Golden just say his name stop just say his name and get it over with for me kick me now all
09:31right I was like yeah I'm hey I'm standing on the hangman's platform like all right I don't need a
09:36flowery speech all right just uh just put the hood over my head and let me drop so my's golden
09:43yours is booker what what about these other guys what was your okay so Matthew Golden Matthew Golden
09:48was a kick in uh nargs because I had allowed myself to dream yeah he was sitting there he was sliding
09:53you're looking at okay who might draft a wide receiver I don't know the Packers have a history
09:57ah hey the look the the Vikings are doing just fine with their Justin Jeffersons and whatnot that um
10:06that was a kick just because of the I had allowed myself to dream that was like holding a lottery
10:10ticket for a billion dollar prize and you start thinking about all the uh all you're gonna buy
10:16yeah yeah all the things you're gonna do for your mom and everything yeah yeah yeah um I'd say I
10:22honestly this is a weird one but in reverse it was retroactively
10:27Josh Connerly and Josh Simmons oh no no no wait first Donovan Jackson obviously Donovan Jackson
10:34yeah Donovan Jackson was there you're sitting right there like okay all the guys that you'd really
10:40identified there's still one remaining it's come down to this it's the you're at the finish
10:45and boom there he goes what would we be saying this morning if Donovan Jackson had gotten to the
10:52Texans and they took him at 25 I would say I'd I'd be excited about it I think a lot of people
10:57again kind of like with Tyler Booker people had him as a potential early second rounder so there
11:03would be people there would be people criticizing Nick for it I had identified him as a guy that I
11:08felt good about um and like most of the guys at 25 I felt good about but there are guys who are
11:13also going 25 for a reason so uh I I would have felt really good about it because I think it was just
11:18step in the right direction I wouldn't like project a game changer or what have you but it
11:24was a guy that many people had identified and that Daniel Jeremiah had linked to the Texans with a lot
11:29of confidence I would have felt like all right boy they played it down to the wire but the strategy
11:34worked out they got one of the guys they had identified yeah Jackson with the Jackson when the
11:39when Donovan Jackson got picked that's when I said there's a good chance they trade here we've been
11:44talking about it on this show for the last two weeks which is that the Texans especially as
11:50Shador Sanders stock began to drop over the last couple weeks and Jackson Dart's stock was going up
11:56from the second round into the back end of the first round we've been saying it on this show
12:00which is 25 is a primo spot if quarterbacks are slipping to the back end of the first round that's
12:07sort of the beginning of the chunk of the draft where teams are going to start to think about moving up
12:11into to get that extra year of team control with the fifth year option that you get on first round
12:18picks and bingo that's exactly how it played out all the guys that the Texans seemingly probably were
12:23very high on were off the board there's still a couple guys Nick even said himself there's at least
12:27one guy they thought about taking at 25 instead of doing that trade that's sitting there right now
12:32on the board still but but the the the the once all these guys that we're talking about flew off the
12:38board the trading back thing to me became it was obviously very viable um my gut reaction to what
12:45they got the two-thirds at first was ah I thought they'd get a little more than that I got to see
12:51how the math works out on the Jimmy Johnson chart and it turns out the math works out fine on it
12:55the math works out fine it just in the immediate moment too where as I've told you I I let the I let
12:59the nerds do the work for stuff because I always plug in some number everybody I messed up three
13:05minus I messed up I messed up four minus two earlier this this show 34 minus 32 I messed that
13:12math up so um the I as far as the trade value a lot of people in the moment thought oh my gosh look
13:20at what the Rams got how the hell the Texans get built by this no the the the Giants are being widely
13:25panned for spending as much as they did to move up yeah I give them a pass because it was a
13:29quarterback but the Texans want the Texans get back the equivalent of a late third round pick
13:34yeah with with that trade so the trade value worked out it's just that the Rams really put one over
13:39they got the equivalent of an extra high third round pick an extra high from the Falcons the very
13:44yeah for those who don't know what Seth's talking about the very next pick the Rams traded out as well
13:49and in the process from the Falcons amongst all the chum of draft picks that got traded in that there
13:54was a first rounder in there the optics of getting a first rounder is what's helping the Rams there
13:58too yeah but the Texans get the equivalent of a high third round pick so it's like the trade value
14:03made sense that part of it made sense yeah what about the other so so you and I are in agreement
14:07the Tyler Booker pick at 12 that hurt in the moment uh the Matthew Golden pick at 23 that hurt
14:15greatly in the moment especially for me Donovan Jackson at 24 that hurt that to me was the trigger
14:21though where I go okay well I think they're moving here yeah what what else either before
14:25or after the Texans tell okay so Calvin Banks goes off the board and the fact that he was the third
14:31offensive tackle taken there was a part of me after the first two guys go after Embu and uh and
14:38Will Campbell and um yeah I was like okay you know what if Calvin Banks maybe slides a little bit
14:46down towards 15 or 16 maybe we're in action here but I never really felt like the Texans had a chance
14:53with for Calvin Banks unless he slid further than people expected that one the Calvin Banks worked out
14:59where people expected him to work out tip of the cap to the draft heads um so that was but that was
15:04more like I really would have liked to have him the one the one that hurt retroactively was after the
15:11pick is made and I'm sitting there and I'm thirsting for either a wide receiver or an offensive lineman
15:16I thought man if if no offensive lineman get taken between the 25th pick and the end of the first round
15:24I'll feel even better about the Texans chance to really revamp the offensive line room so when Josh
15:30Connerly and Josh Simmons both went there was a little bit of a letdown yeah Simmons less so for me
15:35that that injury is is the the combination of the injury and the maturity issues it's that Simmons went to
15:41Kansas City that bugged me more than losing out on Simmons because I that is a place where I feel
15:45like he's gonna go and he's probably gonna be pretty good he'll have time to kind of you know
15:49it would be different certainly than if Josh Simmons went to one of the teams picking near the top of the
15:53second round today he'd be asked to be a starter right away probably I think uh from a certain like
15:59from a pettiness perspective some of the things that were a kick in the gut were also uh I was a little
16:04bit happy about uh because I'm sure I'm gonna be getting all the apologies from the people who
16:08adamantly insisted that Josh Simmons would be gone well before pick 25 that you could have gotten
16:15Emeka Buka in the second round or you could have gotten Tyler Booker in the second round yeah I'm
16:19sure the I'm sure the they're just flowing into my inbox and my DMs right now the arrogant F's what
16:28the just yeah you don't know yeah no you don't know you don't know um so the uh people weighing in
16:34okay so let's get to some of the opinions here on the text page on what the Texans did last night
16:38what did you say it's a I think you echoed what my buddy John said 75 percent yeah yeah yeah so John
16:45my buddy John who's in the YouTube chat uh every every day uh said that it's about 75 25 people
16:52looking to jump off a bridge yeah at 75 and it's uh he said Abigail's the one leading the way in the
16:57chat Abigail Abigail's very measured yeah oh okay I would yeah I would say she's a Abigail's a realist
17:03okay and okay so I gotta I'm gonna have to go in and look I try to I gotta stay off chats when I'm
17:09this sleep deprived uh and moments like this because I get too distracted yep but um I'll have
17:14to check and see what if Abigail is freaking out honestly yeah that's a little bit of a canary in
17:18the coal mine I gotta check my blind spots okay here's some of the text Jim Adler the Texas
17:23Amber text line Texans are overthinking it um I I disagree with that I mean I don't I think there's
17:29a method to every I yeah I I don't know no this is where I honestly one thing Nick said last night is I
17:35I think the appropriate way for GMs to look at it they don't look at rounds they look at actual
17:40position on the draft board yeah and if you think like if you're that confident there's a gigantic
17:46chasm between 25 and 34 that at 25 you've got a culture changer and that at 34 that that that's
17:55just a bum like a bum like Kamari Lasseter I guess okay yeah like it's just
18:00um at 25 in any given year yeah this year the Texans feel like there's just not as much difference
18:10between 25 and 34 is perhaps in other years you know who went 34 last year Seth lad McConkey
18:16he went 34 last year yeah well no and that's and I'm because I look you run into the hazards of
18:23sounding like Jack Easterby here in Acton like actually it's better to pick it's better to pick
18:2834 because you don't have to pay him as much I'm like I'm not going that far with it um but right
18:34especially with wide receivers the number of really good second and third round wide receivers that that
18:38holds true that's been a trend for a while now uh someone says in Nick we trust that's the very
18:43next text after he's overthinking it uh to your point about the money someone's asking could trading
18:48out of the first round also been about cap considerations in the future obviously you're
18:53not going to pay whoever you're taking today as much as you would be paying somebody you take
18:57a 25 I unequivocally this is my own I say no I don't think it's any consideration no it's I don't
19:02want to say it's pocket change but it's it's it's negligible yeah no it's a beneficial
19:07byproduct of it yeah they're going to pay less for these guys they take today but I I I would
19:12be willing to almost guarantee but they they actually get extra picks though too so they get
19:16they yeah yeah so maybe right they got more guys to pay so yeah no I think it's zero consideration
19:21here um good morning fellas what are y'all's thoughts who do you think we take it 34 we have
19:26not talked much about that other than your mention of the fun possible Travion Henderson scenario
19:31yeah you know the one um I think the the part where it gets interesting is at offensive tackle
19:39where the um whose name I always screw up looking at right now it's uh Arizona yeah yeah
19:48ursory out of Minnesota so ursory ursory is not a great athlete he doesn't look like a first round
19:54offensive tackle but he is a he's six foot six 330 pounds he's a massive human being he played in a
20:01scheme in Minnesota that was very outside zone based probably better suited for a really athletic
20:07offensive lineman I don't know if I don't know if they would take him with a 34th pick overall but
20:14when you're looking at offensive tackles perhaps he might be a guy that makes a lot of sense if the
20:19Texans want to be more of a smash mouth football team that they might go after um and then you know
20:24uh Tate Ratledge out of Georgia Georgia guard Marcus Embo out of Purdue Miles Frazier out of LSU
20:30like those are guys if you're looking at offensive linemen I think those guys are very very possible
20:35yeah the other tackles yeah ursory is the top rated tackle if you're looking at other tackles
20:39Ozzy Trapio from Boston College who I've heard Bill O'Brien gush about in some of the interviews I've
20:45done Charles Grant the kid from William and Mary is on the board Texans had him in for a visit not at 34
20:50probably but maybe a 58 something like that you know okay so now this is the other thing too is
20:55that you know when GM say they take the best player available there's always a little bit of tweaking
21:01and massaging there in that they organize their board also based on what the role of a player might
21:06be so I think there's a really good chance that if they stay at 34 the guy that's still available
21:12the Texans felt they said Sarah said there's a guy out there we thought they thought was worth
21:18taking at 25 yeah they passed on him position of need and Travion Henderson is just he's sitting
21:26right there at his draft party waiting for the the you know his parents he right he's helping his
21:32parents clean up the draft party from last night right now and they're they're getting ready to go
21:36again and Travion Henderson is there I just I'm not going to be ultra surprised if they take Travion
21:42Henderson just because they might really like his they might really like his talent but they thought
21:46all right at 25 we've already got a running back we want to get somebody that uh just so it's very
21:51possible and they may still see wide receiver and o-line as something where hey we got 58 79 89 and 99
21:58so we've got either four picks we can use to get guys there or we can bundle a couple of those third
22:04round picks to move up into the second round to go target a guy like that yeah you know and Travion
22:09Henderson look like college stats are whatever but 7.1 yards per carry on a very very potent offense
22:16but runs angry runs runs angry we'll just like sometimes looks like he he prefers to deliver the
22:24blow then elude it and yet he keeps his speed up through contact so boy that would be that would be
22:31split man people would be there would be some people be super excited about Travion Henderson
22:35there's others going to despise that pick if that's who they take I would be excited I I think
22:40I do think that them having five picks today and today five picks today second and third round
22:46does increase the chances of them coming away with a running back today and you know the other part of
22:51Travion Henderson that I know people don't like talking about at all but where he could potentially
22:55be better than Joe Mixon is in pass protection yeah like he really he squares up he delivers a blow
23:01that great pass protector Travion Henderson has the potential to be um bucks taking a buka seemed
23:09to throw things off kilter in the draft last night it was a bit of a surprise a buka I had seen a buka
23:15going anywhere above 20 in the draft well I think a buka is another guy that when Nick said man some
23:20of these mock drafts that just you know like you're looking at it and nobody's thinking that these guys
23:25are going to go high yeah but Nick's getting intel from agents and whatnot that no they're definitely
23:29going to go high I think I think Emeka buka and um and Tyler Booker are probably two of the guys he
23:36was thinking about I I don't think I'm guessing it wasn't a huge surprise to Nick that a buka went
23:42to the bucks especially given Godwin's injury right oh and Nick's pretty plugged I mean Nick talks to
23:46a lot of people a lot of people the agents give a lot of that agents you can trust yes yeah that
23:51aren't just trying to blow smoke any thoughts on Luther burden there's a text message Jim Adler the
23:56Texas hammer text line any thoughts on Luther burden still being on the board I I think that
24:00Luther burden being on the board isn't a huge surprise and I I think this is a the there's a
24:06little bit of a projection just because of the offense that he played in and that's where people
24:11just kind of kind of wonder about him I think that's very possible though I think that I think
24:16Luther burden might maybe Luther burden's the guy they were talking about maybe that would be that
24:20would be the one that people would be most happy and excited about I think Luther burden has a
24:24kind of an electric athleticism to him that a buka and I think more so than there's a suddenness to
24:30burden yeah that Matthew golden doesn't necessarily have he's just he's a smaller guy but we've seen
24:35that the Texans aren't afraid of drafting smaller guys right at wide receiver that would be that might
24:40be the leader in the clubhouse right maybe um now he is the one who has the girlfriend who's his
24:46manager and the mom that kind of hangs around a lot and he's you know he's he's his son he's not a
24:51Sunday he's a Sunday guy but not a Monday through Saturday guy oh that's right I forgot that part
24:56of it yeah yeah yeah I don't worry about remember people had questions about Derek Singley and whether
25:01he had uh just whether his father was too much of uh you know too much of an over you know like a guy
25:07too heavily involved right which that can go both directions you can either be hey sometimes Earl Woods
25:13did pretty well by his son for sure or it could be like uh Marinovich's father I guess my the the thing I
25:19want to point out there it would be that that pick was made before D'Amico was in the building
25:23you know does how does D'Amico view that that pick was made in the Lovie Smith year how influential
25:29is D'Amico in things like the parents being overbearing and the guy not practicing hard and
25:34stuff like that well the girlfriend part of it is the one that freaks me out look lots of moms are
25:39super involved Lamar Jackson all right Lamar Lamar Jackson's mom turns out to be one of the best
25:43agents in the NFL yeah so so I don't worry about the parents as much girlfriend freaks me out yeah
25:49that's uh they're too young they're too young unless he's dating a 47 year old CFO we didn't if I find
25:55out that he's dating a 47 year old CFO you're cool with that then I'm cool with it yeah but if his
25:59girlfriend is the same age as him and she's like heavily involved in the process I'm a little bit
26:03big red flag I got you yeah there were no that I saw that I saw you and I think both watched the
26:08same feed we were both watching ESPN I didn't watch the NFL network um but I didn't see any
26:13you know girlfriend draft night hall of fame worthy interplay like we did with Will Levis's
26:19girlfriend last year CD Lam's own they weren't giving a lot of drama at all positive or negative
26:27they really just weren't showing the I was showing the family at all no and I'll tell you another
26:31annoying thing on the ESPN broadcast they were tiptoeing around any and all kinds of character
26:39concerns except for when they were lambasting anybody who would question the greatness of
26:43shooter Sanders yeah but other than that then they were they were kind of just really like when Walter
26:51Nolan was drafted they would say like well hey you know he's got good veterans yeah on the team that
26:56can help him learn how to play like a pro yeah they allude to it that there might be some maturity
27:02concerns with Walter Nolan but they wouldn't flat out come out and say it they um I didn't see this
27:07year too where they were doing that thing maybe I wasn't paying close enough attention like once a
27:11guy got picked then I was back on my computer until I started hearing you know the the chimes and
27:15whatever but they ESPN used to get they were getting clowned yesterday that people were bringing up old
27:20graphics of players that had gotten drafted in the past Seth where they show the player's face
27:25after he got drafted like the player's face is on the left side of the screen then they'd have
27:29like three bullet pointed facts about the player like you know led FBS in touchdown passes uh five
27:35star recruit out of high school and then for a lot of guys the third one would be some super morbid
27:40thing like mom died of the Mutaba virus back in 2012 like it's just they're on a bullet they're just
27:47bulleted next to touchdown passes there like they got so much guff for the year that they went
27:51full into the sob story side of things yeah then now they're just generic yeah lost uh lost 27
27:58members of his family in a church bus accident yeah but now likes it but also likes cats right yeah
28:06is right-handed yeah um Jaden Higgins would be a guy that I'd be curious about because I think he's
28:11been going late second round but the comp on him is a Nico Collins yeah the Nico Collins being a
28:17comp for Jaden Higgins a wide receiver out of Iowa State that would be one that I think people would
28:23be lambasting because it's above his projected value yet at the same time man Nick and identifying
28:30Nico Collins as a guy outside the the first round that that has those physical traits Jaden Higgins
28:37looks a lot like that optimists would do what you just said about the Nico comp and you're right
28:41pessimists would be like that guy's going 57 in every mock and we took him at 34 um text message to
28:47the Jim Adler the Texas Hammer text line this is okay this is a good one I think what hurts the
28:53fan base in this draft is the C.J. Stroud Will Anderson draft set an expectation of fireworks and
29:00this first round was a whimper and I thought about that last night like the man they are never going
29:06to replicate hopefully they don't have to replicate it hopefully they're not picking second and third
29:10in the draft anytime soon we've not mentioned the draft party yet last night yeah what happened Sean
29:16I texted with a few of my friends who were out there and they said people were not happy now
29:20let's add in the fact that it was pouring rain last night at various times it's pouring rain and
29:24because it's the 25th pick people are sticking around they're sticking around yeah yeah and so it's
29:29so it's like they're at work this morning right right so they're you're waiting around for something
29:34that feels promised to you even though it's not we pointed out several times they could trade out of
29:39that pick yeah I'm looking about it standing outside for the better part of four hours you
29:46know the doors opened at 630 and the 25th pick rolls around at 10 o'clock you know well plus Sean you
29:51know what I don't look at the Texans fan base as being spoiled because of the fireworks four times in
29:56the last six years they haven't had a first round that's correct yeah I mean the the the F them picks
30:02scenario of the Rams was at the very least you got an immediate payoff on this but we've been going
30:08since 2020 with not even having a first round pick in two-thirds of the draft that's right it get you
30:14get a little it gets a little tiring so just go ahead and win a Super Bowl this year okay can we do
30:18make fun t-shirts we can I don't feel like uh I don't feel like the Texans have earned a bleep
30:23them picks t-shirt yeah yeah boy the Tex are rolling in man I um I this is my question to the uh to
30:29the Texers um is what if you're somebody who's upset with what the Texans did last night trading
30:35out of the first round what can they do tonight that would get you back on board with this draft
30:41you know you're out on it so far because you wanted them to do something in the first round
30:45what what can they do tonight that would make you feel like okay I maybe I was a little maybe maybe I
30:52maybe I jumped the gun a little bit you know maybe I should have waited till the end of day too I'm
30:56curious what what that would be for people I think that for a lot of people it's going to be
30:59Luther Burden because I think there were some people um you know Corey Barrett there and a few
31:04other people that are very active or like Luther Burden more than Matthew Golden we obviously also
31:08have that hometown appeal of any Longhorns that have watched Matthew Golden play that people
31:13really liked Matthew his walkout song was a Bun B Pimp C song also that's right yeah that's right
31:19yeah yeah yeah yeah oh I'll tell you what if you forgot yeah it's actually the ratio is even worse
31:26five times out of the last seven drafts the Texans have not had a first round yeah 2018 they didn't
31:32have one either yeah that's pretty wild dude that's nuts that's got to be approaching some kind of a
31:38record they will fight it'll be five out of the last eight because they drafted Titus in the first
31:43round in 2019 they had a first rounder in 2019 2022 and 2023 other than that their last first round
31:49pick before that was Deshaun Watson in 2017 so yeah yeah yeah five out of the last eight five out of
31:55the last eight yeah um so um okay there were no girlfriend or wife things going on but yes somebody
32:02points out on the text page a baby did puke last night when when I don't know if that was Kelvin Banks
32:08the third that was sitting next to him there was a baby sitting on a lap of some woman sitting
32:12sitting next to you or something sitting next to Kelvin back it was a baby I don't know whose baby
32:16it was but there was a baby sitting next to Kelvin Banks when he found out he got drafted by New
32:21Orleans who within two seconds like visibly spit up tell us how you feel kid exactly man I'll tell
32:28you what okay poor behavior by that infant unacceptable where are the parents uh
32:34no the biggest where are the parents moment I felt bad for this dude during the national anthem I think
32:41I was watching on the NFL broadcast at that time the it's in the middle of the national anthem the
32:46camera goes up to one of the stanchions and there's three kids clowning around and the father is standing
32:53behind them and like desperately trying to tell him to get it together but also doesn't want to go viral
32:58for screaming at his kids during the national anthem yeah I felt bad for that a peak of yeah at the peak
33:05of like oh boy wait until I get you home but I can't do this in public uh yeah yeah it was I felt bad
33:10for that dude yep yep uh especially because then two of the kids might have been like friends of his
33:14son or something yeah yeah so then you're the over bit then you're the dad who's the curmudgeon like
33:19and you're on camera you're on camera you're like all right what do I do here what do I do here
33:23yeah that sucks um this is a good one uh drafting three times and I this is an answer to the question
33:29I just posed which is if you're somebody who's disappointed the Texans didn't pick last night
33:34what can they do today that we get you back on board drafting three times in the second round would
33:39make me a little happy somebody said so maybe using two of those thirds to move up into you know
33:44the higher part of the second round to get a guy look and the payoff on it is we know this
33:48the first round has name brand appeal the second round is people are skeptical of hell skeptical as
33:54hell of Kamari Lasseter dude until Kamari Lasseter shows up people were mad that the Texans didn't
33:59take Kool-Aid McKinstry the pick before Kamari Lasseter and I think 90 percent of it was they like
34:05the name Kool-Aid yeah you know like it's it gets a little silly here like these guys these guys are
34:10the guys that are still sitting here right now are by and large very similar to the guys that the Texans
34:16passed on at 25 who ended up getting picked throughout the rest of the round just in terms
34:20of the caliber of player you know