Amy Lee from Evanescence gives a an update on the new album and touring.
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00:00Before I do my intro, can you hear me, Amy?
00:04Yeah.
00:05Hey!
00:06She's here!
00:08Oh my God, I'm sorry.
00:09No, no, it's all right.
00:11I like to always do a nice big intro, so let me do that now.
00:15Ladies and gentlemen, from Evanescence, it's Amy.
00:17Hey!
00:20Hi, guys.
00:20What's a nice intro?
00:21How are you?
00:23Good.
00:24Thanks for having me.
00:25Oh, are you kidding me?
00:25It's great.
00:26Listen, we had just played Better Without You.
00:30So, leading right into this, and of course, obviously, it's on the album, The Bitter Truth,
00:35which is finally out.
00:39And I wanted to ask you about that, because you were talking about this album.
00:43I mean, was it done already, like in 2019?
00:46I mean, in the can, and ready to go, or close to it?
00:49No, no, not at all.
00:52Oh, okay.
00:52We really wrote most of it last year.
00:54Yeah, during everything.
00:55All right.
00:56Then I read that you wanted people to hear it at that point.
01:00So, I read something incorrect.
01:01Oddly enough, there was some misinformation that I found on the web.
01:04Weird.
01:05Yeah.
01:05Well, we started it a while back.
01:07You know, we'd been working in bits and pieces through 2019, in between tours.
01:12We just sort of started putting time aside when we were all together.
01:15We live all over the world, all over the country.
01:17And now we have a member who lives in Germany, Jen, who we've been away from since before the pandemic.
01:22She's been with us remotely on this thing since the first four songs.
01:25But we made it happen.
01:27Yeah.
01:27We did.
01:27It's such a man.
01:28Hallelujah.
01:29No, it's very cool.
01:31And honestly, the entire world has gone through a maelstrom of stuff.
01:36You know, obviously, with the COVID and all that stuff.
01:39And then you guys have also, all of you, at some level, been dealing with personal crises.
01:44And, you know, here you are at this end of it, releasing music into the world, connecting with people.
01:51And what you love doing, is there just a big sigh of, you know, relief now that it's out there?
01:58I can't imagine what that process is like and what you're currently experiencing.
02:03It feels so good.
02:04It really does.
02:05And for us, you know, it's not something we do every other year.
02:09It's something that is, you know, it comes out when it happens, when the inspiration hits and the time is right and everything lines up and we know what we want to do.
02:17So more than ever, it feels like a very special occasion for us.
02:22And, you know, like you said, having so much to get off of our chest personally and just feeling connected, you know, with the rest of the world in this time of the last couple of years.
02:34Just strain and loss and frustration.
02:36It feels so good to be in a rock band.
02:38Yeah.
02:39Pour all that out into the music.
02:42I can't tell you how good it feels.
02:43And now, you know, I'm such a, I'm such a, I don't know, detail critic, always hearing all the little things I want to chip away and change to finally have it done and not be listening to that anymore.
02:54And just to listen in my car and enjoy it, it feels really, really good.
02:58Okay.
02:59I wanted to ask about that in particular.
03:00So, and, and I would imagine all artists, musicians, maybe not all, but some go through this where you have this final product, you're very proud of it.
03:10It, it, you know, it's, it's sat for a little while.
03:12It's, it's sunken in.
03:13Do you go back and go, man, I wish we would have done that.
03:16I wish I would have, I wish I would have added this harmony.
03:19I wish I would have tweaked this and that.
03:20Or are you okay with, or is that just natural?
03:24That hasn't happened yet.
03:25Okay.
03:26I don't, I don't think that about the new stuff.
03:28I really, it's funny, I, I start, I'm hearing so many little things when we're still, when there's still the chance to change it.
03:34I'm hearing this and that and this, and I don't know, and maybe this and one more of this.
03:37And we need more backer bubbles and all that.
03:39But then once it's done, um, finally stepping away, I'm like, I don't even remember all the details I was honing in on anymore.
03:44It just sounds great.
03:46Yeah.
03:46You know what?
03:46And that's why I would probably, I would be a lousy, uh, producer or anything in that position because you constantly want to be changing and tweaking and doing this and that.
03:56You had Nick, uh, Rasculentis is your producer, one of the, the best rock guy that there is to it.
04:02And does he, uh, tell me about your working with him and what that experience is like.
04:07He's, he's the best.
04:08He's incredible.
04:09Um, and that's part of what makes that happen.
04:13He's, he's very much in on the details.
04:15Like I am, we, um, work really well together.
04:18We don't always have the exact same idea.
04:21It's good to have somebody who has different ideas and goes, Hey, you know, maybe you should try this one other thing, but really, it's so good to have somebody that you really trust who can say, you know, when you're like, what's better a or B like this taker, that one, or like for me to go up here or go down here.
04:38Or somebody who's just like a good sounding board of like, dude, it sounds great when you do it, when you go up, let's, let's go for that.
04:43That's, you gotta have that.
04:44All right.
04:44I also wanted to ask, you know, Steve had mentioned the fact that there was, there's a lot of, uh, of, uh, uh, there's a lot of message you're getting across with this music.
04:52There's a lot of things happening.
04:53You mentioned a lot of tragedy.
04:54There's some good things too, but, um, I wanted to ask you on a personal note when, when I will, uh, I will sometimes listen to songs for years.
05:04And have no idea what the artist was trying to, the message that they were trying to get through in this song.
05:10Now I may love the melody and the harmonies and the rhythm and all that stuff.
05:15And I like the song, but don't really know what it's about.
05:18Um, how do you feel about that?
05:20When you poured emotion, when you poured, you've written these lyrics, you're getting across a very specific theme that you want and people don't get it.
05:28Is that okay?
05:29It's totally okay.
05:31Okay.
05:31Um, honestly, I, I write in a way that is very cathartic for me.
05:35And in some of these songs, I, I hear what I'm saying.
05:39I'm like, there's no way anybody can hear this other than exactly what I mean, but there is.
05:44And something that's really beautiful about art and music is when people can take it and apply it to their own life for their own particular personal experience, what they're going through and let it be that for them.
05:55Um, I think that's a beautiful thing.
05:56And it, it, it's funny because I want to break down and explain as much as I can about our lyrics kind of, but there's another part of me that doesn't because it's sort of better when you see what it turns into for somebody else.
06:07It's kind of more powerful that way.
06:08I've had songs that totally moved me and I didn't know that they were about something for, for many, many years.
06:13So I was like, Oh, that's what that was about?
06:16Yeah.
06:16Yeah.
06:17Yeah.
06:18But that's, but therein lies the beauty of the subjective nature of music.
06:22But I, there's something, and I wonder if you agree with this and I think it might in some way speak to why a vinyl has become more popular again.
06:29The, the, the, um, the, having album cover art and having an artist, I, I used to use when I would listen to music and listen to a, to an album, an actual record, I would look at the, the art.
06:42And a lot of times you, you had additional messages being conveyed through that.
06:47But yes, that's something you remember fondly and yeah, that's a cool thing, right?
06:53We don't have that anymore really.
06:54Yeah.
06:54Yeah.
06:55That's always, yeah, we do.
06:56I do that.
06:57Yeah.
06:57I know you do.
06:58Yeah.
06:58Yeah.
07:00Because I feel like that's, what's so cool is you can have so many, there are so many different ways to express yourself, um, and to make an image kind of have a deeper impact.
07:10That's why music videos are so cool.
07:12Do we, we actually just, just filmed our better without you video.
07:15It's going to be so cool, um, in Minneapolis, actually, we road tripped it.
07:19I drove 13 hours in a car with Troy and my girl, Beth.
07:23Wow.
07:23Um, it was really fun.
07:24Uh, got cheese curds and everything.
07:26Anyway, when you can take, you know, something and go, okay, here's a visual also that sort of feels like the world that this is, that this is living in.
07:36I don't know.
07:36That's a, that is a huge part of it, whether it's album artwork or whatever.
07:40Yeah.
07:40Um, and we do that, we, we almost always have some sort of like animal or insect or something.
07:45That's like our secret spirit animal that goes with the music for each era.
07:49This one's a Nautilus.
07:50And to me, that spiral shape is, has always been like, um, some kind of a symbol of like eternity, you know, like it keeps going until you can't see it anymore.
08:01And it makes me think about the future and the past and the soul and like the depths of things.
08:06So it just fits.
08:07And it's like, it doesn't have to be that anybody really knows that explanation, but it feels that way to me.
08:12So maybe it'll feel like that to somebody else on a subconscious level.
08:15Cool.
08:15Uh, Amy Lee, I was actually, uh, having a discussion over the weekend and your name was brought up as well as, uh, Taylor Momsen, uh, Lizzie Hale and Dorothy.
08:24And it was because we were watching the pregame for the NCAA, uh, final four and they had a giant Miley Cyrus concert.
08:33Now, so I don't want to knock Miley Cyrus at all, but she was, you know, for the masses, the female representation of rock music.
08:42And I, and I was, um, and I listened to her album and I like, he likes her a lot and I do.
08:47And so, so that's what I'm saying.
08:48I'm not knocking Miley, but I was like, I was a little bit perplexed on why they're having her represent rock and roll when she is not classically known as a rock artist.
08:59And I thought, man, Amy Lee would have been perfect for this.
09:02Lizzie Hale would have been perfect.
09:03Taylor Momsen, Dorothy.
09:04There had so many, you know, other, I thought better representations of rock music.
09:09And I wasn't sure what your thoughts were on her being a rock act now.
09:14And I'm not asking you to knock anything either.
09:16Yeah.
09:17And, and again, without knocking her with you, um, I, I, I'm with you on that.
09:22I, I feel like it has to do with the people in place that are putting those kinds of productions together.
09:26They need to hire you guys.
09:27They need, if there's, if there's a place where, you know, rock music is going to be represented, represented, there's so much rock music with millions of fans.
09:37Like rock is no way dead.
09:39Like it is full, full alive, but we need people in, in the positions of, of power and placement to recognize and tap into that rock world instead of always trying to make it, well, what'll just get the most people, you know, that have heard this name before or whatever to, to, to, to care about it.
09:56Um, that just feels a little bit like a, a, well manufactured, really, this move, a corporate, yeah, no, that's exactly it.
10:04The numbers, that's always frustrating.
10:06It's cool to be the underdog, but at the same time, it's like, well, rock is real.
10:10You know, there are people out there that like it, give it, give it a chance for sure.
10:14Yeah.
10:14But my wife did bring up the point that, uh, she is, uh, you know, she's a different name out there.
10:21And so maybe she is going to be that entree, right?
10:24Maybe somebody is going to watch her, listen to her and go, well, hang on a second.
10:28I like this style of music.
10:29And maybe somebody, maybe somebody who wouldn't have known about Evanescence is now all of a sudden introduced as a result of that.
10:37I was like, okay, well, that's a healthy perspective, I guess.
10:39Yeah, totally.
10:40You know, and Casey brought up the, you know, the, all the, all the, the, the, the great female rockers that are out there now.
10:45And I always kind of think of you as, um, you, for me and for us, I think here represented the turn where we were like, you know, we, we had obviously legendary voices in rock, but you represented this next wave that I think is still going on.
11:03And, um, and, and I, you were the flashpoint, I think, and, and it seems like, um, your, your, your contemporaries, and I've read interviews with all of them where they, they cite you as that step-off point that has to come with a bit of pride.
11:16That's really cool.
11:17It's, you know, it's so much cooler doing, uh, all of this now, later on in life with the experience and the respect that comes along with, you know, just doing it for a long time and, um, surviving so much.
11:32Yeah.
11:33Uh, it's just, it's, it's, it's, I would way rather be where I am now than where it, what it felt like when we were starting out.
11:40Yes.
11:41Yeah.
11:41Uh, it's bad-ass.
11:43It's incredible.
11:44You know, there are so many people that came before me, you know.
11:47Um, that have influenced me.
11:49So many rad women.
11:50It's not like I'm like this one pillar of rock.
11:53There have been women to rock from the beginning.
11:54Yeah.
11:55But you, but you had a, you had a style, which I kind of see as almost like dominatrix S and let me, let me explain because they, they incorporate pleasure and pain.
12:07Yeah.
12:07And so the, the instrumentation is the pain and your voice is the pleasure.
12:13You have this smoothness about you.
12:15And then there's that raw edge of the music that go together.
12:18So, I mean, you know, contrast.
12:20Yeah.
12:21Yeah.
12:21Yeah.
12:22Contrast.
12:22So, you know, on a visual audio, whatever level, I like to hear two really different things coming together to make that beautiful swirl.
12:31And, and as I, I want to be the first one who has ever called you a dominatrix.
12:34Has anybody ever done that?
12:36Oh, you're not the first.
12:39We're on zoom with Amy so we can see her in the room that she's in.
12:42Are those care bears and Smurf dolls behind you?
12:45Yeah.
12:46What's your pleasure?
12:48Do you have any, my little ponies?
12:51Cause Kathy was never allowed to have a, my little pony when she was a kid.
12:54Yeah.
12:55Wait.
12:56Oh, wait.
12:56We're going to take a look.
12:57She's taking the camera over.
12:58I'll describe to the audience.
13:00Yes.
13:00Oh, my little pony.
13:02I try to keep it in perspective.
13:05So like the Grammys and the awards have like dolls all around.
13:08It's like in front of a gold record and a Grammy.
13:11There's a, my little pony.
13:12Several.
13:13Wait.
13:13And I love the caravan.
13:14My little pony climbing the Grammy right now.
13:17Raggedy Ann up there.
13:18Amy, I used to go to my neighbor's house and play with the neighbor because she had my little
13:23ponies.
13:23And for whatever reason, and it wasn't that I wasn't allowed to have them, but my mom
13:26never got them for me.
13:28And I was traumatized as a kid.
13:29I would.
13:30Your mom probably thought they were sinful or something.
13:32That's really funny.
13:34I honestly, like I didn't have that many toys as a kid, but there was, I don't know why.
13:39Like there's so many cool eighties collectible.
13:41I mean, it's not like, it's not like it's only the eighties.
13:44It happened later too with Pokemon and being babies and everything else.
13:46But like when I got to be a teenager and all that stuff was like at flea markets and cheap,
13:51I was like, I'm buying every toy that I've ever wanted now.
13:54Yeah.
13:54Now that you can afford it, go for it.
13:56Yeah.
13:57Absolutely.
13:58So Amy, with the new record and new music, what are your thoughts on touring and what
14:03it's going to be like over the next few months?
14:04Because so much of that is up in the air for so many different acts.
14:08Yeah.
14:08Um, we're not going to be out there this summer, uh, but we are making plans for the
14:13end of the year.
14:14Um, and I am, I just can't wait.
14:17It's been just this thing where we keep making plans and this is like with tour and everything
14:22else over the last year and a half, almost now you just keep making plans and keep having
14:27to push them back.
14:27And then you just keep making them again and keep making them again and keep, you know,
14:31waiting for that time when you don't have to postpone it again.
14:33Um, so we just keep making plans and I, I feel like now, you know, we're in a different
14:38situation than when we were in last year when we just kept pushing it back, hoping for something.
14:43Now there's a vaccine.
14:44Now things are changing.
14:45I've already gotten my first shot.
14:47Um, we're headed towards the end of not being able to do it anymore.
14:51So we are going to unleash the fury.
14:54I am so ready to get out there and just play and feel what it feels like to be on stage,
15:00just immersed fully in music with a group of hot and sweaty people.
15:05Don't you want that so bad?
15:06Absolutely.
15:07Absolutely.
15:08Yeah.
15:08As a matter of fact, I'm, I mean, when was the last time you played our MMRBQ?
15:13How many years?
15:14Obviously it wasn't last year.
15:16Was that, was that two years ago?
15:18Oh, 2019.
15:20Yeah.
15:20Because, uh, I had a great memory of, uh, being in the, uh, commissary, if you will.
15:26And I believe they might've been, uh, serving kielbasa sausage.
15:29And I started singing Tenacious D and you were there and you actually sang with me a little
15:35bit.
15:35Oh, really?
15:35Yeah.
15:36Yeah.
15:37Your butt cheeks is warm.
15:39Yes.
15:39That was our road trip music.
15:41We were just on that road trip.
15:43It was all Tenacious D.
15:44That's awesome.
15:45All of it.
15:46I'm an old school fan from like the cable days.
15:49Yeah.
15:50Like the HBO show.
15:51They, they played our, uh, they played the MMRBQ one year and they were, I know that
15:55it was at the, it was a festival, another festival that we did and nobody really knew
16:01them except the musicians.
16:03And it was, it was wild to see that the audience was like, what in the F?
16:09Jack Black was a household name, man.
16:11Every band was lined up stage side and they were like freaking out.
16:15It was just hilarious.
16:16It's so funny because it's one of those things, right?
16:19Like Spinal Tap where bands get it on a level where it, especially with the Tenacious D,
16:25their, their musicianship is so good.
16:26Yeah.
16:27That's part of what makes it so funny.
16:28Like all the details of like talking about writing a song and everything, you just relate
16:32to it.
16:34That's right.
16:35And it actually sounds great.
16:36It does.
16:36They're, they're really great.
16:37And I, and, and Pick a Destiny is just a, you know, you can watch that over and over
16:40again.
16:41Uh, I wanted to ask you when you, when you were, um, when you're performing, when you said getting
16:45back to the concert, um, uh, dynamic, what's the better scenario?
16:49You're able to roll out the music and a lot of your listeners have heard it there live
16:53perform live with that energy, or they come already pre-schooled on the music because they've
16:58been listening to it over and over again off of the album.
17:01You know, it's cool when they know it a little bit that one of the, one of the cool things
17:05about this situation is we're going to be going out there playing the new album.
17:09Right.
17:10And by the time we're able to be up on stage playing it, the fans have been living it with
17:13it for a year.
17:14I mean, we started releasing the songs, you know, already a year ago now.
17:17Um, so it won't be that, Ooh, what's this one?
17:21I haven't heard it before.
17:21I mean, it'll be cool to hear it live, but they'll know the words.
17:24And I think that's going to be really powerful.
17:26I'd always, I remember when I would be going to a concert, uh, I, I would take a little bit
17:32of time to do the work to get the album and listen to it and then go.
17:38It's a completely different experience.
17:40And would you, were you the same way when you were, when you were pre rock star?
17:43Yeah.
17:44Yeah.
17:44And even now, like if we're going to go to a show and it's a band that like a friend
17:49wants to go to that, I don't really know that well, or I know like the hits, but I don't
17:52want to be that person.
17:53Yeah.
17:53Like you always jam that album that day when you're like getting ready to go, just so you're
17:58kind of familiar with what's going to happen.
17:59It makes it more exciting when, when the songs you like do happen.
18:02It serves you better as, as the, you're paying for this ticket, you know, you're going to
18:06get more out of it.
18:07If you listen to the material, I remember, uh, rush had done a tour and it was a concept
18:12album that they had, and they said they were going to mainly just be playing music from
18:15that.
18:16So I did my work.
18:17I listened to it.
18:17I loved it.
18:18Our boss did not listen to it.
18:20He thought it was a lousy concert.
18:22I thought it was an awesome concert.
18:23So that can be the difference.
18:25You got to listen to the material.
18:26I totally agree.
18:28Hey, I wanted to ask because, uh, uh, Taylor Monson's name came up.
18:31Lizzie Hale's name came up.
18:32There are a couple of the featured, uh, backup singers on this album.
18:35There are several people that you, uh, uh, brought on board, uh, and all of this done
18:41remotely.
18:41Um, how was that?
18:42I mean, just a quick phone call and yeah, they're in type of thing.
18:46Pretty much.
18:47Um, it wasn't completely remote.
18:49That was, uh, when we were recording, use my voice.
18:51It was right before the shutdown.
18:53It was the beginning of last year.
18:54So, um, we recorded in Nashville.
18:58Um, that's where Nick's studio is and Lizzie and they live here.
19:02So it was easy for her to come by, like check out the song, get in the booth.
19:06And Dina Jacob from Viridia, my friend who helped me actually write a little bit of the
19:10song, she could come in, she lives here.
19:12So we did that.
19:13But also I just like texted and called a couple of friends and was like, I don't know,
19:17do you want to lay a vocal down on this?
19:18And everybody said yes.
19:19Awesome.
19:20You guys all have your own style and all shine in your own ways.
19:23But when you're watching Lizzie, do you kind of sit there and go a little less?
19:29Don't destroy me on this.
19:31I'm sure her voice is so powerful.
19:32No, I hear Lizzie and I'm like, turn that girl up.
19:35That's so cool that you guys all live out there.
19:37That's just one of those cities that I need to get to.
19:40Are you in Nashville?
19:41Yeah, I am now.
19:43I was in Brooklyn for 13 years.
19:45It's weird.
19:46It's different.
19:47But it's good.
19:47We're closer to my parents here.
19:49Hey, I wanted to listen.
19:50I don't know if you have the details and if you do, if you're allowed to give them out
19:54or not.
19:54But you are going to be announcing a streaming concert next month.
19:59Can you talk about that right now or no?
20:01I don't know.
20:02I haven't talked about it yet because I didn't think I was supposed to, but you just spilled
20:04beans.
20:05Yeah.
20:06Feel free to get in trouble because of us.
20:09Nobody's listening.
20:11We are.
20:11We're working on it.
20:12We're just now talking about the set list.
20:13So we are doing something.
20:15Yes.
20:16Okay.
20:16I've watched a lot of streaming concerts over the last year and it is, I mean, there's
20:20some really, really great things.
20:21I'm a huge Phish fan and Trey Anastasio did a run of shows at the Beacon and what they
20:27did, which I thought was really, really cool, is they performed towards the back of the
20:31stage, right?
20:33And so, and then they lit up all the seats behind them.
20:37I mean, just, are you talking like, you know, just visuals alone, because obviously the music
20:40is going to speak for itself, but the visuals alone, I thought that was a really cool visual.
20:44That is really cool.
20:46That's a good idea.
20:47Hey, what's up?
20:47We still have to figure out what we're going to do exactly.
20:49When, when you're putting the set list together, what's, um, what's most important opener
20:54or closer to you?
20:55What do you think?
20:57That is a difficult question.
20:59Um, man, uh, the opener is really important.
21:05I, I, I, I'm tempted to say the closer, but honestly, like the way you start the show really
21:10sets up the whole energy of the night.
21:13If you come in strong, like that is going to just get everybody to buy into everything
21:19else you're about to do.
21:20So I think starting is really important, but endings important too, because whatever
21:24you end with, that's, what's going to be in everybody's head for the rest of the night.
21:28I saw a cheap trick one time and they opened with, I want you to wear me.
21:32And we were like, Whoa.
21:35And I still remember that to this day.
21:38I mean, that blew me away.
21:39There's a lot of, there's a lot that can go into, there's a lot behind those moves.
21:43I think that's a statement.
21:45It's like, if you guys came to just hear this one song, you can leave now.
21:50The rest of the show is for the fans.
21:52You guys want to go to the bathroom?
21:53Just go.
21:54Go to the back.
21:54This is for the fans now.
21:56That's what that says to me.
21:57We had a show one time and we won't mention the band, but the band opened and closed with
22:01their hit at the time.
22:02It was like, it was a weird, it was a weird thing.
22:05Well, it was the new radicals and they really didn't have much material and, uh, and that's
22:10a great song.
22:10You get what you get.
22:11Absolutely.
22:12Yeah.
22:12Um, but Hey, I wanted to, um, and I don't know if we've talked to you since you guys, uh,
22:17released your cover of the chain, but what a, an amazing rendition of that song.
22:22And I just wanted to thank you for doing that, choosing to do that and, and, and ballsy
22:26too, you know, I mean, that's, that's a, that's a, that's a bold, uh, shot at a really
22:32a song that's got its own identity for sure.
22:35It was awesome.
22:36Totally, man.
22:37It felt really good to do.
22:39We, our band is made up of people.
22:41We all have a little bit of a different taste, um, in music and we all like different things.
22:46And, you know, some of that contrast between us is what makes it great.
22:49But one place that we all super agree is Fleetwood Mac.
22:53So to be able to go in and for us all to just be like, yes, like equally excited to have the
22:58opportunity to do it was really cool.
23:00And my thought on covers is always find a new way, like make it somehow like really your
23:08own, because if, if it's really just going to be another version of the original, like
23:13that's just, I don't know.
23:14I want to go hear the original then.
23:16Like that to me, it's like that.
23:18If you're just reminding people of a version they like better.
23:20Yeah.
23:20Which is, yeah, that's the problem.
23:23Yeah.
23:23Like bring something, bring a new perspective to the table and see if you can show, you
23:27know, another potential interpretation of the music.
23:30So I, that song definitely, you know, it's, it's different.
23:33It's very different from the original.
23:34I really like it.
23:35You mentioned each band member having their own taste and then confirm or deny is your
23:39number one pie choice these days, pecan pie.
23:42And how did that happen?
23:45You guys researched.
23:49Can you confirm or deny confirm?
23:53I love.
23:56I mean, I like food in general.
23:58I'm a food person, but I, yeah, I think that was like last Thanksgiving or something.
24:02I was like, okay, I'm making a mark in time.
24:05Like this is my favorite.
24:06I'm tired of playing around.
24:07This isn't a joke anymore.
24:09So you pronounce it pecan pie, which is how I say it as well.
24:13Steve says pecan.
24:14Yeah.
24:14So then where, where are you from?
24:15Where did you grow up that you got that pronunciation?
24:18I actually grew up all over.
24:19My dad's in, it was in radio for 30 years.
24:22So we're kind of a no dialect family.
24:24South Florida is where I grew up as a small child, but then Illinois and then Arkansas.
24:29But I mean, I've lived everywhere.
24:31Kind of.
24:31All right.
24:31What do you do on radio?
24:32Pecan.
24:33We say pecan.
24:34What did he do on radio?
24:36He did what you do.
24:37He was a DJ, a program director, morning show.
24:39Oh, we traveled.
24:40That's why we moved around a lot, you know, just different jobs.
24:43Wow.
24:44Cool.
24:44Excellent.
24:45Well, listen, we're excited about the prospect of maybe, you know, a streaming show coming
24:49up and obviously you doing the live stuff, which is going to be fantastic.
24:53And the new album is great.
24:55So Amy Lee, congratulations to you, the rest of the guys in the band and just keep doing
25:00what you're doing.
25:00And we love it and we appreciate it.
25:03Can't wait to see you in person again.
25:05Yes.
25:05The Bitter Truth, Amy Lee Evanescence.
25:07Thank you very much.
25:08And thanks for coming on this morning.
25:10So.
25:11Wow.
25:11She's so cool.
25:12She's awesome.
25:13I love it.
25:13I love it.
25:13I love it.