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  • 4/23/2025
Kevin Costner+Cyndy Drue

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00:00So congratulations on your new film, Horizon American Saga. I saw it last night.
00:06It must have been so difficult to shoot that.
00:09There were so many intense scenes with the horses and the fires and the stunts.
00:15Where do you get your work ethic? I mean, you knew what it would entail. You co-wrote it.
00:21I know. I saw it on paper. I knew. I was like, golly.
00:24But it was, I kind of made this movie. It's the kind of movie I wish somebody would have made for me,
00:31which is take me back, make it as real as it can be, make it as scary, make it as beautiful,
00:39make the people that actually had that life, make it personal for both the indigenous and the women
00:48and the men and the children and the dirt and the wind.
00:53And the threat. Make it as real and as honest and find as much dignity as you can
01:00and let the violence hang out there like it was and then move on to humanity
01:06and the spirit of going forward. So don't hold back.
01:14You researched it, obviously, you know, back in the day.
01:19This is before the people actually had houses.
01:21It was right in the beginning of the settling of the West.
01:26Where was your best research from?
01:29Well, a lot of it still exists from, well, the books and autobiographies,
01:34but, you know, we still have these really great black and white photographs.
01:38Luckily, we had those shots and you could see how ramshackle it was, you know,
01:45how much canvas and how much wood and what were the important things, a mill, you know,
01:52what were the things that had the most value, you know,
01:56what were the things that were going to, if you weren't going to find gold,
01:59what was going to make you a millionaire, booze, you know, wood, you know.
02:05And, I mean, there's a life trying to happen out there,
02:08but at first it was just people just trying to get there.
02:11And why were they going?
02:13And what was it about here that they left?
02:17Why did people just keep going?
02:19And they were very mean and not nice to each other.
02:24Didn't know each other.
02:25Even people on a wagon train, they don't know each other.
02:28You know, you want to try to deal with that idea.
02:31It's no, no, it's not 80 people got together and go, let's go here.
02:35There are people that wanted something.
02:37They were in search of the promise of America, you know,
02:41which was still pretty much like the Garden of Eden,
02:43except we had stuck the proverbial stake,
02:46and that's why I start the movie with an ant hole.
02:50You know, I don't know what you thought you were going to see,
02:53but I don't know how that image affected you, or did it draw you in?
02:57Definitely, yeah, yeah.
03:00I was, like, waiting to see you.
03:02I mean, you co-wrote it, you produced it, you directed it,
03:05you also star in it,
03:06but you didn't come on until about an hour into the movie.
03:10What, tell us about your character.
03:12Well, what did that, what was that like for you?
03:14Well, I kept, I was seeing people,
03:16and I was like, that kind of looks like Kevin.
03:18No, that's not Kevin.
03:19And then I started thinking, well, maybe he's not in it.
03:23But there you were, about an hour in.
03:25I looked at my watch, and, you know.
03:29It's a mysterious character that you play.
03:32He's not on his way to horizon, which is one reason.
03:36He, that's not his thing.
03:38Oh.
03:39And I also wanted these characters to be interesting enough,
03:42and the story interesting enough,
03:43that you weren't sitting here, you know,
03:46and wean you off me,
03:48to the, this was compelling enough, these other people.
03:52But, you know, he's kind of an enigmatic character right now.
03:57But what, as you see, because there's four of these,
04:00is he gets drawn into this world just by accident.
04:06These other people are going based on a lie
04:08of guys selling things in Chicago,
04:11that there's a place out there, there's a town,
04:14and if you can get there,
04:15you can have something that you don't have here.
04:18You know, that's how America was,
04:20some kind of promise that was either real or unreal.
04:24But I do come in at that moment in time.
04:28I think it's time I get into the movie.
04:31But he's unrelated to horizon.
04:33I see.
04:34You only start,
04:35the only hint of horizon is that little Dear John note he gets.
04:39Right.
04:39When she leaves him.
04:41Hmm.
04:41Right?
04:42It's got, it's a back sheet of a horizon.
04:45The flyer.
04:46He has no feeling that that is going to be a part of his life at all.
04:50He's just illiterate.
04:52And so he, he keeps that note.
04:55Hmm.
04:55Just because he would like to understand what it said.
04:59And little do we know that that will come to mean a lot more to him than you realize.
05:05Well, that kind of, you know, it's, it is a tease kind of this first chapter,
05:10because, you know, you're, you're left going, okay, now what?
05:13You know, so it makes me want to see the next chapter.
05:16Yeah.
05:17It wasn't meant to ever tease, but it wasn't meant to be a cliffhanger either.
05:20And that's why there's a montage in it that says, this is, these, these people are going forward.
05:27Uh-huh.
05:27And you see them.
05:28And so I'm just building my own kind of movie the way I'd like to.
05:33And for those that are okay with it, you know, we're connected.
05:39I liked that he made four.
05:40I liked going to the theater and seeing where these people went.
05:44And I don't, not doing it on TV.
05:46I'm going to the movie.
05:47It will eventually come to TV.
05:49You know, it'll be, eventually be streamed.
05:51It'll be whatever.
05:52But it's like, I feel like this is my way I make movies and talk to people.
05:58Let me just ask you a little bit about, I, I work for the classic rock station, the radio station.
06:05So, um, I just wondered if you have a favorite classic rock artist that you like.
06:12No, but, uh, the, well, I, I do and whatever.
06:15I was, I tell you the song, I was listening to, uh, uh, uh, um, back pages.
06:21Um, I was just listening to that and Mark Cohen's Lost You in the Canyon.
06:27Um, um, I don't know.
06:30And I was just studying the lyrics of, uh, back pages and I just, um, and I can't make heads or tails of them, but I, but I, I understand them perfectly.
06:42It's really, I don't know.
06:44I just love that song.
06:45Well, that's a Dylan song, but the birds made it popular.
06:48I think birds made it quite a few of his songs.
06:50Yes, they did, as did other people, but, um, yeah, I just wondered if, you know.
06:54I don't know who gets to take credit for what, but it's like, uh, you know, I, I, I don't know.
07:00It was just that song.
07:02Yeah, that's great.
07:03Well, I appreciate you speaking with us.
07:05Thanks.
07:05And, uh, I guess we'll, that's a wrap.
07:08Yeah, you come see two, three, and four.
07:10Oh, absolutely.
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