TJ Miller Interview with Meltdown
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00:00All right, are we rolling?
00:01Yes.
00:02DJ, welcome.
00:03We have been rolling on the riff.
00:05Welcome to Detroit.
00:07W-R-I-F.
00:08That's right.
00:08Riffing on the riff in the afternoon.
00:11Right off 8 Mile.
00:12It's Big Dog Daddy and the Little Can.
00:15That's what I am.
00:15I'm the Little Can.
00:16Yeah.
00:17Right off 8 Mile, were you impressed when you went down 8 Mile?
00:20Slick Willie and the dog dick.
00:23What can I say on here?
00:24Yeah, you can say whatever you want.
00:25Slick Willie and the dog dick on riff in the afternoon.
00:28Dude, we stopped playing that band a long time ago.
00:32We got to figure out who's what and who's here.
00:35Yeah, 8 Mile.
00:36I mean, I'm always...
00:39Are you guys a guy...
00:40Are you guys a guy...
00:41Should I talk to him or just pretend he's not here?
00:43Just pretend he's not there.
00:44Well, thank God because he's got weird glasses on
00:47and a haircut that I'm envious of.
00:51No, I'm a guy...
00:54Are you a guy that looks out the window when you're driving?
00:56Because I have become the guy that looks at his phone
00:59and is working, emailing, whatever.
01:00Wait, while you're driving?
01:01You're talking about when someone's driving you.
01:03Yes, yes.
01:04That's what I mean.
01:04When you're like in an Uber or something.
01:06I think I find myself now anytime looking at my phone
01:09trying to figure something out to do
01:10as opposed to when I was a kid where you look out the window.
01:13Just look out the window.
01:14So I got to do it.
01:14But this is the year that I'm going to go to downtown Detroit.
01:20I just have never been.
01:22Really?
01:22Because I always play Royal Oak at Mark Ridley's Comedy Castle
01:25talking about T.J. Miller at Mark Ridley's Comedy Castle.
01:29This weekend, tonight, one show, Thursday.
01:32We're going to be doing some regal stuff at the Comedy Castle.
01:35Come see me joust with my dick in other people's minds.
01:39I thought we wanted to sell tickets here.
01:43The contest is no contest.
01:45Yeah, so I've usually only stayed in Royal Oak
01:48because it's kind of nice.
01:49Yeah.
01:50And there's sort of a nice hotel that they put me up at.
01:55I said, I've got to go down there
01:56because the biggest Detroit thing I've done
01:59is go to Buddy's Pizza, the original.
02:02Yeah.
02:03And so I got to do something a little bit more culturally relevant
02:06going down there, see what's happening during the day.
02:08I'll bring a gun.
02:09I can get a hold of a gun.
02:11I don't want you guys to think I've been walking around Baltimore
02:14without a gun.
02:15Baltimore, yeah, right.
02:16Where should we see, what should I see in downtown Detroit?
02:19So when the guys from Pantera and Metallica were here
02:22a couple months ago, I went with Charlie.
02:24Oh, awesome.
02:24People from Pantera were here?
02:25Yeah.
02:26I love that band.
02:27So I went with Charlie from Pantera from Anthrax, of course.
02:29We went and saw the Motown Museum.
02:31I never saw that before.
02:32Really?
02:33Yeah, that was pretty cool.
02:33But just downtown is really cool with the Little Caesars Arena
02:37and Ford Field and Comerica Park.
02:39There's a lot of stuff happening down there.
02:40I got to see.
02:41Is there like a place where you can walk around?
02:43Oh, yeah.
02:43Or is it spread apart?
02:44No.
02:45All the stadiums are right next to each other.
02:47Wow, that's crazy.
02:47That's look.
02:48It's kind of like Denver, where I'm from.
02:51Yeah.
02:51Yeah.
02:52But my wife is a Michigan chick.
02:54She is?
02:55She's a Michigander.
02:56Where's she from?
02:57She's from, she went to high school in Napoleon.
03:00Oh, yeah.
03:00I know exactly where that is.
03:01Really?
03:02Yeah.
03:02I roll my motorcycle through there sometimes.
03:03Yeah.
03:04Out by Brooklyn.
03:04Oh, my God.
03:05No one knows where that is.
03:06Yeah.
03:07Yeah.
03:07So that's where she went to high school.
03:09She grew up on a horse farm picking asparagus.
03:12And now she's this Manhattanite, sort of New York installation artist who's doing a small
03:20installation in a former space in the West Village next to the fire station, ladder 113.
03:28It's like, it's so crazy to imagine that she basically grew up barefoot and pissing in
03:31the woods.
03:32Right.
03:33And then now she's kind of what she is in New York City where we live.
03:37What do you prefer?
03:38But she, the Michigander or the Manhattanite?
03:41Yeah.
03:42I mean, I got to prefer the Manhattanite, but it's, it's one of the same because, and
03:46I've known her since college, so I've known her a long time.
03:49Like we've been together off my, but since college and she, it's, it's, she's got Michigan
03:56chick in her, you know, like a Philly girl is always, Jersey girls too, but like a Philly
04:01girl is always that scrappy, grimy Philly girl.
04:07Michigan chicks kind of, I mean, they'll, they'll threaten to hit you.
04:12And sometimes they will.
04:16And not all the time, not it's, it's once in a blue moon, but, um, that is true.
04:22Yeah.
04:23I mean, they're just, these are tough women who have pretty tough inclement weather.
04:28And then these guys that are wearing hats like yours, just walking around punching walls.
04:33That's right.
04:34Because you forgot to get dinner that night.
04:36No, I mean, I think, uh, I think there is something really to that because I travel so
04:41much.
04:41So I know what, uh, um, the difference between a girl from Wisconsin and a girl from Michigan
04:47is because I've spent so much time with these different women, you know, maybe at a time,
04:52uh, just a couple minutes interacting with them, but you get, you know, I've had just long
04:57conversations with people all over the country.
04:59It's so cool.
05:00It's one of the most interesting things about my job, because when you do things in Hollywood,
05:04you really just see the people from Hollywood and, um, and, and you're in California and
05:11if you're not in California, so you don't really get to know America at all.
05:14You're performing for them.
05:16The movies and television that you do, those will go to them, but you're not really interacting
05:21with the rest of the country.
05:22And so, I mean, I'm not going to take it dark cause I can go the other direction right
05:27away, but like, I kind of knew Donald Trump was going to win the first time I just sort
05:33of knew it.
05:34And everyone in my bubble of New York and California was like, there's no way Denver,
05:38my family kind of lives in the center of Denver.
05:40It's very liberal.
05:42Um, they're centrist also, but it's just, and I kind of was like, I've been all over.
05:48Yeah.
05:49I've been all over.
05:50Right.
05:51Yeah.
05:51And Denver's a pit stop.
05:52Um, no, but it, I've, I've just, I've been all over and I sock, I just know America and
05:59my wife always is like, that's not true.
06:01You're just talking to fans.
06:02You have a sample bias.
06:03And I'm like, bro, you know me.
06:05I just will start talking to a waffle house waitress for an hour.
06:09Yeah.
06:09Right.
06:09That's what, that's who I am.
06:11And so it's been really interesting to kind of like learn so much about all of these different
06:18places.
06:18It's really, it's really, it's really one of my favorite things about being a standup comedian.
06:24Uh, what I don't like about it is that I lost my hat somewhere in the airport.
06:28Oh, and that sound means that my hat has been found.
06:31Let's take a quick look.
06:33No, it was just someone, a handsome man going into my apartment after I've left.
06:39Okay.
06:40Okay.
06:40There you go.
06:41This only gets better.
06:42Right.
06:42No, I lost my hat.
06:43My, my great hat that Kate got me.
06:46And it's just true.
06:47You lose things.
06:48My fucking phone, the screen cracked.
06:52Yeah.
06:52Here's the great part about this.
06:53I didn't drop it.
06:55I just took it out.
06:56Somehow I came out of my pocket one, like a minute.
07:00It was fine.
07:00A minute ago.
07:01And I take it out and the screen's fucking cracked.
07:04And I'm just like, I know this is collateral damage.
07:07I understand that for a man who travels this much, but that really pisses me off that
07:12my hat is gone.
07:13I've lost.
07:14See, what would you do if you lost that hat?
07:15You know, first of all.
07:16That's one of your favorite hats.
07:17How often does he wear this hat?
07:19A lot.
07:19He can't stop wearing it.
07:20Because it's America.
07:21And when you wake up, you look in the mirror, you go, God damn it.
07:25I could wrestle a bear.
07:26Watch me.
07:28If a horse was attacking my girlfriend, I would fucking hit it in the face.
07:32Did you ever meet David Lee Roth?
07:34No.
07:34Yeah.
07:35I don't meet as many musicians as I would like to.
07:39Dave Chappelle.
07:39Right.
07:40Who I was hanging out with last night.
07:41It was the first time I really hung out and talked to him.
07:43Really?
07:43Last night?
07:43Yeah, last night.
07:45Nice.
07:45Because I was in New York.
07:46I left this morning, and I left my hat somewhere in the fucking LaGuardia airport.
07:53And I was talking to him last night, and it's like, it is the, I don't know, the traveling,
07:59the, like, America of it.
08:01That doesn't, that wouldn't register in New York with most people.
08:06Yeah.
08:06But Chappelle is always hanging out with musicians.
08:09The people, the musicians are always coming to his show.
08:11Right.
08:11All that stuff.
08:12But I don't have, I had a guy once who could play the ukulele.
08:16He came to a show of mine.
08:18Well, you know, you just recorded your last special at Zany's.
08:21I'm going down there next month to see Chris Porter.
08:23That's music city.
08:23Yeah.
08:24But I would love, I bet he hangs out with a lot of musicians.
08:26Yeah, Chris Porter's going to be there with Zach from Shinedown.
08:28Oh, that's great.
08:29Yeah, see, but he's, he's got that vibe, man.
08:32Yeah.
08:32You know?
08:33And I think he's probably a really big music fan.
08:35You're obviously a really big music fan.
08:37I like music a lot, but I don't really go to concerts, and the music I listen to is not
08:42respectable.
08:43Like what?
08:44It's just, I'm embarrassed to even talk about it out loud.
08:47No, in my house, my wife is on the spectrum, we found out just a couple days ago, self-diagnosed.
08:56But in my house, it's always kind of like fucking cat relaxation music and classical music for
09:05study, Spotify playlist.
09:08And if I'm lucky, not if I'm lucky, but I like, we'll play good jazz, and we go, when we see
09:13music live, we go and see a jazz show, because then it's not, if I go to a concert,
09:17venue, or this, it includes a lot of me interacting with people who would like to have a picture
09:22or talk to me, or those types of things.
09:25And a jazz club, people don't do that, because it's very New York.
09:27It's like, they're not there, they're there to see the jazz.
09:30Right.
09:30Please be quiet, I'm watching the jazz.
09:32They're there to watch, not to listen, sort of.
09:36I was going to ask you, how much do you get recognized when you travel?
09:38A lot.
09:39Do you really?
09:39Yeah, a lot, all the time.
09:42Which is fine, it has its sort of different, I wear a mask in the airport, even during the
09:47pandemic, I was like, this is going to be such a fucking blessing if I don't die, and
09:52all of my family doesn't die, I'll be able to wear a mask, and it won't be weird.
09:56People are like, I guess that's just that guy.
09:59So I do that, and then people don't really recognize me.
10:01But like, in, you know, I'll take off my, like today, I was in first class, but I took
10:09off my mask, and then, you know, as we're leaving, a couple people saw me when I was
10:16taking my back, said, hey, I'm a really big fan, you know, and then they'll try and
10:19take a picture when I go out, which is always fine.
10:21I think that's a very nice thing.
10:23But yeah, I'm very famous.
10:24I sort of, and I did, I actually kind of talked to Chappelle about that, because there's such
10:30a difference between fame and kind of notoriety, and they sort of don't mean anything either
10:35way.
10:36But we talked a lot about how the general public just really loves you.
10:43They kind of, most everybody you meet, I've met really only two or three people that were
10:49like, immediately wanted to, like, be mean to me or something.
10:53But everybody else is just, they're so dazzled by the fact that they're meeting a celebrity.
10:57Right.
10:58And then they also just kind of, anything that you've done, any time that you've made
11:03them laugh, that's, that's a big deal.
11:06I mean, here's this guy that you were laughing at, and you've returned to watching him, and
11:11he's made you laugh again and again.
11:14That's really a nice, they're like, thank you.
11:16So I'm not a dramatic actor from Requiem for a Dream, where, like, I portrayed the heroin
11:22addict who had to cut off his own arm after his, after his girlfriend became a whore for
11:27this pimp.
11:29If I met that person, I'm like, yeah, yeah, no, if you eat her, see it or you ain't, buddy.
11:35But it's, you know, so I think that's it, too.
11:38It's like, if you're a comedian, everyone associates you with feeling good.
11:42Right.
11:42People don't really think about that.
11:44I think music is the only thing where, because it also involves how hard it would be.
11:50So you meet David Lee Roth, which is how all this nonsense for my end started.
11:56But you meet David Lee Roth, and you're kind of like, not only are you like, dude, I love
12:01your fucking music, I rock out to it.
12:04I rock.
12:05I'll be in my bathroom listening to you, and I am rocking my god.
12:09Do you understand what I'm saying?
12:11Slick Willie.
12:13Do people come up to you and quote what you've done in movies and stuff?
12:16Yeah, 100%.
12:18Oh, but they say that about David Lee Roth.
12:21And then also in their mind, it's like, I could never do what you do.
12:24I could never learn how to play an instrument like that.
12:26Some people are like, I tried, and it's impossible.
12:30So that's just there.
12:32If you're a stand-up comic, even an actor, like so many people are like, you're so funny
12:38in movies, but they're not like, that must be really hard.
12:41They just think you're funny.
12:43And then if you're a stand-up comic, it was fascinating to talk to Chappelle last night
12:46because he really is, he understands the economy of the words, the structure.
12:50He is a mathematician.
12:52He doesn't seem like it.
12:53On stage all, it seems like he's just bullshitting.
12:55And he is, a lot.
12:56Right.
12:57But he's about to perform in the Kennedy Center, and he's kind of, he's honing a performance
13:04that it has to be perfect.
13:06And we saw the whole thing last night, and it is beautiful.
13:09I think the only way I could tell him was I could, I'm like, I told, you know, I mentioned
13:13a couple of things.
13:14I thought these moments and the fact that this connected to this was really impressive.
13:18And this had three layers to it.
13:19And I was like, it was just truly gorgeous stand-up, Dave.
13:22I mean, it really was.
13:23Well, that Dreamer Netflix special, it was, that may be the best Netflix special I've ever
13:29seen.
13:30Yeah, it really, it really is.
13:31And he said to me, he goes, because I didn't really talk to him about that, but we were talking
13:35about, is it supposed to be funny first and then philosophical, or is it supposed to be
13:41philosophical and then you save it by being funny?
13:44I mean, I sort of really wouldn't answer that question.
13:47He was kind of squirrely about it, to be honest with you.
13:49But I think the Dreamer for me was his return.
13:53See, this, this, this is also kind of why I don't know that much about music, because
13:56I pay so much attention to stand-up, which is something that people see, and I riff a lot.
14:02I, well, look where I am.
14:04That's right.
14:05At the riff, right.
14:06Perfect.
14:06W-R-A-N-F, the riff.
14:09So I improvise a lot, but, so people think that even my written material is just kind
14:15of me.
14:16I sort of think of it, and then I go on stage and do it.
14:18Is that true?
14:20Yes, most of the time.
14:21But there's a math to it and behind it, and so when you meet a David Lee Roth, you're just
14:26blown away by the music and the skill.
14:29And when you meet T.J. Miller, you're kind of like, you're blown away by the comedy,
14:34the thing, how funny I am.
14:36But there's no real respect for me as a technical performer or something.
14:42So I think that's really interesting.
14:43But the dreamer, I thought, what did you think about this?
14:45He was doing all this stuff, and it got too heady, too, like, anti-woke to, which I am,
14:53too anti-woke to, like, you guys are fucking, your values are totally off.
14:57What the fuck is going on?
14:58And the dreamer came back to, like, it has to be comedy first, but I'm still going to
15:03say some shit.
15:04And then this performance that I don't know if it's going to be a special or anything,
15:14probably not.
15:15It's probably just for this thing.
15:17It was even better than the dreamer.
15:18It was really special, we just thought at the end.
15:24Because there's a lot of times our wives were there, a lot of times that our wives didn't
15:28think what he was saying was very funny.
15:31But he's so funny that then he'd say something a little, and they would fucking lose their
15:35mind because he's telling the truth.
15:38He's, like, one of the few guys that is up there and kind of attacking everybody.
15:42And my friend who I'm writing a movie with, he and his wife, I mean, she is whatever,
15:48but he's Jewish and his family is Jewish.
15:51And Dave Chappelle is going in hard on the Jews right now because this war, I mean, he
15:56is really talking about it.
15:58And he's talking about Kanye, you know?
16:01And he's got a bit about Kanye West that just is so funny about him saying something to
16:07Kanye West.
16:09I just want to do it.
16:10But he does it so well.
16:11And he did the performances on Sunday.
16:14But yeah, I don't meet and haven't had the pleasure to speak with many musicians.
16:19Some lower, not lower level, but like the guys from 303.
16:25And then Talib, Kweli, I met through Dave Attell and Jay, period.
16:31But I listened to hip-hop because that's what I listened to in high school because it was
16:34mostly black and Latino high school.
16:36And you were two kinds of white guy.
16:38Nirvana or Notorious B.I.G.
16:42And so I chose Notorious B.I.G.
16:44I got you.
16:45And I feel more comfortable around him because he's wearing a chain.
16:49So Chappelle has this special, which I think, like I said, is maybe the funniest Netflix
16:55special.
16:56But as far as like crafting words and really putting on a performance, I thought the latest
17:00special with Mike Babiglio is really, really well done.
17:04He's good.
17:04He doesn't really make me laugh, but I had kind of a...
17:08You can respect what he does.
17:09Yes, because I had a personal thing with him a long time ago.
17:13And it wasn't really bad, actually.
17:14He kind of came and apologized and he was like, you know, I saw the depths of this girl's
17:19madness and malice.
17:21And so I'm sorry that I sort of didn't see that earlier.
17:25And by that time, I was kind of like, what the fuck ever, man?
17:27You're part of the problem.
17:28But I do definitely respect what he does.
17:32And John Mulaney is almost like that.
17:34I really think he's a brilliant comedian, but he doesn't crack me up.
17:39Nate Bargatze, though, I do laugh really hard at his stuff.
17:43I just worry that after a while, you're like, OK, I get it.
17:47But he's really, really funny.
17:49But Chappelle, for a stretch there, I wasn't laughing as much as I was going, oh, that's
17:56funny.
17:57Oh, my God, that is funny.
17:59And on this one, seeing him live, I think it's part of it.
18:02But The Dreamer, I was cracking up.
18:05I mean, there's so many funny, funny bits.
18:08So he really is at the top of his game, whereas a little while ago, I was kind of like, I don't
18:14know what's going on with him.
18:15Well, there's definitely something between seeing a comedian live and seeing somebody
18:18in your living room.
18:19Oh, for sure.
18:19It's way different, right?
18:20No, and I tell people that, like, first of all, come and see me live at Royal Oak.
18:25Especially if you can see two shows, they'll be completely different.
18:27They'll be three bits that are the same.
18:30But I think when people come, sometimes they'll be like, this is my first time in a comedy show.
18:36And I'm like, what?
18:37Really?
18:38Never?
18:39These people are in their 30s or something.
18:41You've never been to, I've been to a fucking escape room, okay?
18:46I'm never going to go to an escape room again, but I've been to one.
18:49I've been axe throwing, and it rules.
18:53But I haven't been very often, but I've tried it.
18:56Obviously, there's something to it.
18:58And they'll say, it's my first time.
19:00And I'll go, isn't it amazing?
19:02And you can kind of tell, like, yeah, it is amazing.
19:04These are all these strangers.
19:06You don't know them, but everybody's laughing.
19:08Their focus is on one thing.
19:09And you really can check out, if you turn off your phone, you really can check out.
19:17And sort of, I don't know.
19:20Yeah, you can sort of.
19:21I just love the whole art of the whole thing.
19:23I think it's fascinating.
19:25Yeah, you're so interesting, because you're also so interested.
19:27Is this why you're such a good radio host?
19:30Because you're interested in things?
19:32Well, I don't know about, I don't know.
19:33Is that how it started, though, kind of?
19:35That you wanted to know about people?
19:37Because you do radio, but when you're doing this, you're really asking the person all about them.
19:42Well, I think that I've wanted to do stand-up for many, many years, and I've just never done it.
19:46And I want to do it, not because I think I'm funny, but because it's a challenge.
19:49But then you've got to do it.
19:50I know it.
19:50I know.
19:51Everyone says, yeah, and one day I'll do it.
19:53I just never feel like I'm prepared.
19:54This is my problem.
19:55Well, look how unprepared I am.
19:57I don't even write fucking material.
19:58No, dude, I think that, how do I say this?
20:03I think that my response to this is never what the person wants to hear, but it's always
20:09the right response, because I know, obviously, go and do it next week.
20:14Right.
20:15Just find an open mic, set the time, and then go and do it.
20:20And a guy said to me when I was really young, I go, what's your advice for a comedian?
20:25He opened for Orny Adams, and this guy, Buddy, he was so funny.
20:28And I go up to him, hey, I'm a young comedian, like an aspiring comedian, and I'm just like,
20:35I'm in an improv group.
20:36But what advice would you give me?
20:39And he goes, just go up there and bomb.
20:41Just go up and bomb as much as you can.
20:43And I was like, this guy's either fucking with me, or he's the stupidest comedian in the world.
20:48That's not what you want to do.
20:49You want to kill.
20:49And what he was saying, and it was just a failure to communicate, is go up there and
20:59just expect that it's not going to go well, and find out that it doesn't matter.
21:03If you completely eat shit, then, boy, I'm cursing a lot, because I did a 54-station radio
21:11tour last week.
21:12Really?
21:1354 interviews in four days, and you can't really curse on either.
21:17We're honored to have you here in studio, then.
21:18Well, yeah, I wasn't in any studios, and I couldn't cuss on like 99% of them.
21:26So I'm sorry if I'm being a fucking top of mouth.
21:28God damn it.
21:31So, fuck, what was I saying?
21:33Oh, just do it.
21:34Just bomb, yeah.
21:35Here's the thing.
21:37If you get up there and it doesn't go well, nothing bad happens.
21:41Right.
21:42You feel like it's going to hurt somehow, or physically, or it'll change your opinion
21:47of your, or something, you have all this weight on it, and then you go up, and you, you are
21:51you.
21:52I don't know you that well, but I've done this long enough, and you'll go up and do
21:57well.
21:57And I tell people, just go up and tell a couple stories, funny stories, that you would
22:01tell at a party.
22:02Yeah.
22:03And just see what that feels like.
22:04And the reason I say go and do it next week, or just set a date and do it, which is what
22:10I had to do, and set a date and do it, and you'll be a different person, because you'll
22:17no longer be a guy who's always wanted to do it.
22:19People tell you that you'd do it.
22:20You're so funny.
22:21You've never done stand-up.
22:22Are you serious?
22:23Oh my God, you'd be hilarious.
22:24You go from being that guy to the guy that's like, yeah, I did it once.
22:28And people are like, what the fuck, what was it like?
22:30And you have this rich story, and this really bizarre and interesting experience that no
22:36one else will have.
22:38Nobody that you've ever met that's not a stand-up comic will go and try stand-up comedy.
22:43I'm hoping that that changes.
22:45I see, I foresee a world, I think it's coming, where doing stand-up comedy is as easily accessible
22:53as buying guitar, and just being a guy who learned to, I know a couple songs on the guitar.
22:57Yeah, I've done stand-up every so often, I got like five great minutes, you know, it's
23:02funny, but it's not my, I don't want to become a comedian.
23:05I think that one day it will be like that, because, and I don't know why, I'm kind of,
23:11I'm interested to see what happens to stand-up if live performance is kind of going the way
23:17of like traditional theater, but stand-up is pretty hard to replicate, and it's such a
23:24fucking adrenaline shot to you.
23:26Right.
23:26You feel so good after the show, and the whole way home, you're like, that was so funny,
23:30oh my god, I'm like, you know what though, I didn't like the second guy as much, really?
23:34I thought the second guy was even funnier than TJ, man.
23:36And it's, you're, you're, it's such an involved, and again, like, rich, enthralling experience.
23:45So I have a lot of confidence in it, you know, until AI sort of replaces me with a hologram
23:50that goes, skinny Willie and the dog dick.
23:54Yeah, that's what's going to happen, right?
23:55It's me, AI, on the radio, riff.
23:58Hey, a couple more things here for you.
24:00Like, of course, the Comedy Castle coming up this weekend, and you got your smooth peanut
24:04butter, which I'm a crunchy peanut butter guy.
24:06What?
24:06Yeah, yeah, exactly.
24:07It's got to be crunchy.
24:08My wife has tons of crunchy peanut butter at the house, just for me.
24:11Well, you know what?
24:12We're going to, I'll send you some.
24:14Oh, yeah, that's right.
24:15You got some, you got some merch.
24:17You have pens and pens.
24:17Yeah, yeah, we'll take, we'll take care of it.
24:20Yeah, well, yeah, we'll get it done.
24:21But yeah, you got your merch with the peanut butter, but as there's one thing I wanted to.
24:25Remember, I'm going to send you guys peanut butter.
24:28Okay.
24:29You just got to try it on the air.
24:30Okay.
24:31All right, that works.
24:31You're going to love it.
24:32I have my own line of peanut butter, but yeah, Smooth Peanut Butter is my first, like, real
24:36comedy album that I just dropped.
24:38Yeah.
24:39And it's really, really cool.
24:41I mean, it's because I listened to comedy albums growing up.
24:43I don't know if you'd ever listened to that.
24:45No, I wanted to bring it up because when I was a kid, and this is going to date me a
24:48little bit, my parents had an A-track of Let's Get Small, and I listened to it.
24:53That was the album that I listened to.
24:53Yeah, I know.
24:54That's what I know you did.
24:55Like, oh, the, you know, S&M people are coming over.
24:58Great, Spaniards and Mexicans.
24:59I didn't understand that joke for decades.
25:01So funny.
25:01Yeah.
25:02It's so funny.
25:03Right, exactly.
25:03They're into S&M.
25:05I was like, okay, Spaniards and Mexicans.
25:09I listened to that as a kid and didn't understand any of it.
25:12Yeah.
25:12Over and over.
25:13Well, you understood the Let's Get Small.
25:15I got tiny, but it was so silly, the entire thing.
25:19And I don't know.
25:21I just loved it.
25:22One of my favorite bits of his was he would go, you probably, you've been listening to
25:27all the things they've been saying about me, so you think I'm a rubber head.
25:32Oh, yes, yes, that's right.
25:33You probably think all rubber heads are the same.
25:35All rubber heads slap fish.
25:38Is that what you think?
25:38You probably want to call me a rubber head, don't you?
25:42And the audience is like, yeah.
25:44And he's like, you want to call me a rubber head?
25:47And they go, yeah.
25:47And he goes, well, then go ahead.
25:50Call me a rubber head.
25:51This is all audio.
25:52And they all go, rubber head.
25:54And then you just hear.
25:56You don't see anything when you hear.
26:00And you're like, what the fuck did he just do?
26:02Right.
26:02You have no idea.
26:04Theater of mind.
26:04Theater of mind.
26:05So we have some of that stuff on my album, for sure.
26:08Now, I'm a lot older than you, but I saw Raw in the theater.
26:12That's amazing.
26:14My friends and I all went and saw it, yeah.
26:16Wow, that is so cool.
26:17Was it great?
26:19Awesome.
26:19I mean, you know, all that stuff.
26:20He is so funny, yeah.
26:21Eddie Murphy was like, he's like kind of lived two lives if you think about it.
26:24Totally.
26:25Yeah.
26:25So is Steve Martin.
26:26Steve Martin's lived like three lives.
26:28But yeah, he's.
26:29Well, Steve Martin's always kind of done his thing.
26:30Eddie Murphy did his thing, and then he changed over to something else.
26:33Yeah.
26:33Now he does like kids' movies and this stuff.
26:36But you know, so did Steve Martin.
26:38Steve Martin was in Cheaper by the Dozen.
26:40That's right, yeah.
26:40He was in Parenthood.
26:41And he doesn't do stand-up anymore.
26:43And then he was a musician, and he was, you know, releasing banjo music stuff.
26:47And he was also a playwright and had a couple successful plays on, like, Broadway and shit
26:52or off-Broadway.
26:54So he is truly a polymath, kind of can do it all.
26:57Yeah, he can do a lot of things.
26:58And play the banjo is just incredible.
27:00It's such a hard instrument to play.
27:01I think David Lee Roth would have a little tough time plucking on the old Joe.
27:06Well, maybe David Lee Roth will be at the Comedy Castle this weekend.
27:09Anything else to plug besides that?
27:10You got anything going down the pike here?
27:11Smooth peanut butter.
27:12You can stream anywhere.
27:14Please buy my line of peanut butter and my line of hot sauce.
27:18Yeah, hot sauce too, yeah.
27:19On Amazon.com or my website, TJMillerDoesNotHaveAWebsite.com.
27:25It's fun to follow me on Instagram at TeenageMillionaire.
27:29I can be found most places as not TJ Miller.
27:33And subscribe to my YouTube channel because I have, like, four YouTube videos.
27:38They're not videos, specials on there.
27:40And three of them are improvised.
27:41One at the Stanley Hotel.
27:43Yes, that's awesome.
27:44And the inspiration for The Shining, that scary, scary, scary movie.
27:49And then one called the Spokane special, which is just, I did an hour on Spokane and then
27:55cut it down to 37 minutes and it's fucking hysterical.
27:58And if you don't live in Spokane, you don't get any of the references, but somehow that
28:01makes it funnier.
28:02And then I did a crowd work special at the Blue Room in Springfield, Missouri.
28:08And then I have my, like, actual stand-up special, Dear Jonah.
28:12You should go and check that out.
28:15It's very, very funny.
28:16And so, yeah, I kind of, I don't know.
28:20You know, I'm, like, doing a lot of stand-up.
28:22I have two more specials in the can that I'm going to bring out.
28:25Oh, cool.
28:25Where were they at?
28:27One's in Tampa called the Philosophy Circus.
28:30And the other is in San Diego called the Gentle Giant.
28:36So those are both really cool.
28:38I got to cut those together, though, because I'm also doing,
28:40can you guys tell that I do just a couple of things?
28:43I'm also doing the first, are you guys, are you cryptocurrency guys?
28:48I am not, no.
28:49I'm doing the first stand-up special as an NFT.
28:53And so those are-
28:54I know the Avenged Sevenfold guys are all into that stuff.
28:56Yeah, see, I would believe that.
28:58Exactly.
28:59It's a pretty advanced thing.
29:01It'll be the first NFT comedy special ever in the history of the world.
29:04But I just like that shit.
29:08I'm a big cryptocurrency guy, big Bitcoin guy, mostly Bitcoin.
29:14And, you know, so it's just, it's really a fascinating sort of world.
29:18And so I'm doing that in April.
29:20But, yeah, it's just, and working on this Christmas movie.
29:23But that's all, you know, just follow me online.
29:26You'll see a lot of stuff.
29:27But most importantly, come see me live.
29:29That's right, yep.
29:29All the dates are on TJMillerDoesNotHaveWebsite.com and Royal Oak.
29:34That's right.
29:35Yeah, the comedy castle, Mark Ridley's.
29:36It's going to be some regal comedy.
29:37Yeah.
29:37That's exactly right.
29:38Well, TJ, thanks so much for stopping by the station.
29:40What about you?
29:40Will you plug some things?
29:42Yeah.
29:42Okay.
29:43Plug everything, yeah.
29:44No, what about you?
29:45Oh, I'm just interviewing TJ Miller.
29:48That's my plug.
29:49What else?
29:50I'm interviewing Mike from Nickelback tomorrow.
29:51There it is, Mike from Nickelback tomorrow.
29:54That's right.
29:54Are you going to ask him how his band has become kind of a punchline in certain circles?
29:58They got a movie coming out, something, I can't remember exactly the name off the top
30:02of my head, something like Why We Hate Nickelback or something.
30:04It's coming out, like, next week.
30:06That's amazing.
30:07Oh, I'll definitely watch that.
30:08Tell him it said, I've never used Nickelback as a punchline.
30:12Okay.
30:12Will you just please tell him that?
30:14I always go with John Mayer.
30:17Fucking loser.
30:19Just kidding.
30:19I just heard he had an orgy with some hot chicks, so we'll talk about that some other
30:22time.
30:23Yeah.
30:23Wait, John Mayer had an orgy?
30:24I just heard something, some Hollywood actress just came out and talked about that.
30:30Well, we would be doing orgies if we were John Mayer.
30:34We.
30:34Yeah.
30:35Yeah.
30:35Right.
30:35Exactly.
30:36TJ, thanks so much, brother.
30:37Not we, not us three.
30:39No, that ain't happening at all.
30:40We would be having an orgy together, just the three of us, if we were John Mayer.
30:44That's actually true.
30:45Will.
30:45Because John Mayer would have an orgy with two other John-
30:48Will, just stop.
30:49Two other John Mayers.
30:49Two other John Mayers.
30:49Two other John Mayers.