WRIF Virtual Rock Room with Quiet Riot's Rudy Sarzo
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00:00Thank you so much for watching Riff TV. Now this interview is obviously with video, but I don't
00:05interview everybody on Zoom. That's why I put it on my Talkin' Rock with Meltdown podcast. We talk
00:10to rock artists from all over the genre. So check out Talkin' Rock with Meltdown wherever you get
00:15your podcasts. And now to today's video interview. And there he is, the legend. Rudy, how you doing?
00:24I'm blessed. How about yourself? I'm doing all right. You're going on the Jericho cruise later
00:28this week, aren't you? I am leaving Wednesday, Wednesday morning. And then we get on board
00:34on Thursday and we come home on Monday. Yeah. Yeah, that's awesome. Chris Jericho is a great
00:39guy. I mean, you've obviously done a lot of these cruises in the past, right? I've done
00:44a couple, but with a different, you know, this is the first time it's going to be a boat full
00:48of wrestlers. A lot of oil. I didn't think about that before. Well, you're going to have
00:55a great time. I know Shiprock just came in, right? They just finished. I guess so. Yeah,
01:02there's a few of those around. I did a couple with the Guess Who? And one of them was the
01:0760s, the Flower Power whatever cruise, which is interesting. And then we turned around and
01:15we did the 70s, which is the romance cruise. And the difference between both of them was
01:24the 60s. You had like everybody on those little rascals, you know, those little, you know,
01:30Costco scooters. Yeah. And the 70s, they were still on walkers. They haven't made the transition
01:37to you. Yeah. Well, you just celebrated what? Your 72nd birthday a few months back, didn't you?
01:43That's right. I'm making the transition there. I'm practicing. I'm getting my arms ready for it.
01:50You still enjoy touring and hopping up on stage?
01:53Oh, yeah. I mean, I mean, now more than ever, because, you know, I happen to be home
01:57back with Choir Riot. And, you know, it's everything that you ever saw me do in any other band.
02:06I always brought a little bit of Choir Riot or a whole lot of Choir Riot with me, like in the case
02:12of playing with White Snake. But I always ask. I never take it for granted. You know, I always ask,
02:20how much, what would you like me to do on stage? And if they tell me, like in Coverdale's case,
02:25it says, be yourself. Thank you.
02:28Yeah. Coverdale seems like that kind of guy. I've never met him in person, but I've interviewed him
02:33a bunch of times. And he seems like he just goes with anything, right?
02:37Well, you know, basically what worked between him and me as far as communicating what we expect,
02:43you know, what he expected of me as a member of White Snake was the fact that White Snake
02:48was the opening band for Choir Riot in 1984. So he had seen me a few times on stage.
02:54Yeah. Yeah. So he kind of knew what to expect. You know, it's funny that, you know, going back
02:59home and stuff, I was just texting with David Ellison and he asked me, he wanted me to talk
03:04to you about, you recently said you're getting the joy back in playing your bass again. And he
03:09wanted you to expand on that. And I guess maybe some of it might have to do with being back
03:12in Choir Riot or no? Yeah, it has a lot to do with being a choir. I mean, it's not that I
03:19had lost the joy. I actually did lose it once. When Randy passed away over 40 years
03:26ago, you know, I was much younger. I didn't have the knowledge or experience or have been
03:33around enough to really know much about life and understand that the responsibility of us
03:40left behind is to celebrate the memory and the music, in our case as musicians, of those
03:47who have passed on. I did not know that. I was just trying to run away from going on
03:54stage every night without Randy being there and everything that he brought, you know, his
03:59musicianship and his friendship. And it's Randy Rhodes. Come on, you know. And losing that,
04:06losing that, I lost the joy. And I was not the only one. I would say just about everybody
04:12in the band. I would say everybody in the band, you know, Tommy and Ozzy and Sharon and everybody.
04:18We were never the same again. But after 40 years, you know, I have learned. I have learned
04:22that it's our responsibility to celebrate, celebrate the memory, which is what I do when I go on stage
04:32or even as we're having a conversation right now. It's not about me. It's about celebrating
04:38the legacy of Choir Riot and the memory of Randy Rose, Frankie Benelli and Kevin DeBron.
04:44Yeah, Ned, I saw that documentary, I think last year or sometime, the Randy Rose documentary
04:49that his family put out. That was really good.
04:52Actually, his family did not put it out.
04:54Oh, I thought his family did.
04:56Oh, who put that out? Refresh my memory because somebody wasn't, Ozzy wasn't involved, right?
05:02For sure.
05:04No, no, no, nobody was involved. Whoever put it out, I haven't met the person. I do hear
05:11because I haven't watched it just because the family did not really support it.
05:15Gotcha.
05:16I hear really great things about it, which to me, that's the most important thing. You know,
05:24it puts Randy in the right light. Of course, it's an aggregate of documentaries previously
05:32done and available on other documentaries. It's kind of like, okay, let's find everything
05:38that has ever been filmed about Randy Rose during documentaries or anything and just put
05:43a story behind it, put it in a storyboard so there's a continuity. And that takes a lot
05:50of work. And I'm glad that somebody did it. But the family feels a certain way about it
05:56and I am not going to speak on their behalf. All I'm going to say is it was not done with
06:00the family's approval.
06:02That's right. That's right. I remember that now because I did watch it, you know,
06:05and listen, I was about 13 or 14, I think, maybe even 12. I can't remember when I first
06:10discovered Ozzy and then Randy was killed not that long after. And so for me, watching
06:14this documentary showed a lot about the stuff leading up to him joining Quiet Riot and that
06:19and how there was just like bar owners and other musicians around the area. And like I said,
06:23I grew up as a kid in Buffalo. I wasn't in Los Angeles on the strip, so I didn't really
06:27know a lot about this stuff and what what Randy had, you know, had kind of impressed
06:31all these people before joining Quiet Riot. So it was kind of like a background story
06:36to him just getting started, too.
06:41Yes, it is. You know, and the more information there is about Randy Rhodes out there, the
06:47better, the better. So people can really understand his contribution.
06:52Yeah. So let's talk about Quiet Riot. I can't hold on. You know, that video is is very
06:58stirring. Talk about that that video, first of all.
07:03OK, Regina Benelli, Frankie's wife, who also directed the the documentary.
07:12Now you're here. There's no way back. You know, the Quiet Riot documentary. She did that.
07:16And as a filmmaker, she, her. You know, she she films everything, you know, especially
07:25very special occasions. And I was not aware that she was filming when Frankie told me about
07:38him having been diagnosed just like at that moment with stage four pancreatic cancer.
07:46You know, he took me to to his garden at his home and told me about it. And she even
07:56filmed when when when Frankie gave me a 1966 Fender Precision, which I have right here next
08:05to me. And he presented that to me. And I was really it's not, you know, such a beautiful
08:11instrument. And I mean, it's a classic, you know. Vintage instrument. And I couldn't play
08:18a foot once because I associated his cancer with the bass, you know. And then, of course,
08:26just like everything else, you have to find the light in everything and finding the light
08:31was finding the joy of playing that instrument. And the memories of Frankie giving it to me,
08:37not with the cancer, but as a 50 year old friendship and being met bandmates many times,
08:45you know, because, you know, before we we before we recorded the mental health record,
08:51we have been playing for over 10 years now struggling. And finally, here we are. You know,
08:58I just went in for one song originally Thunderbird, because I was still a member of Ozzy at that time.
09:03And to be playing with Frankie, that just completed full circle, everything for me,
09:09you know, in that recording session.
09:12Yeah. And then Alex finds this song, if I'm not mistaken, like I said at the beginning on this
09:18iPod, I Can't Hold On. And correct me if I'm wrong. It was pretty much it was bare bones.
09:25Your parts weren't on there, correct?
09:27No, we're not. No, no, no, they were not there. I mean, how he recorded that as a demo,
09:34that song with, with that, he recorded the music, gave it to Kevin to write and sing some vocals for
09:39a demo. And at some point, Frankie's drums came on it. And by the time that that I got the copy of
09:47it to track, it had everything on it, except for the bass. So I, I was my own engineer, I tracked it
09:56right here in this room. And I was my, you know, I did my own engineering, like I always do, you know,
10:02every time I record here. And, you know, you produce yourself, you get ideas, you try different things.
10:10But what really helped me was the fact that I had done a few records already with Frankie and
10:16Kevin. And I have been a member of Choir Riot since 1978, on and off. And so I know, I know what the
10:25roots of Choir Riot is musically, you know, the boundaries, but also you want to stretch out a
10:31little bit and, and show some kind of growth and progression and, and all of that. So I brought all
10:36the elements that I knew and, and I really give it a lot of thought to what my contribution to the
10:43track was going to be. Now, what was your, well, it's kind of, I don't know how to even ask this.
10:47What was your thoughts the first time you watched that video or did you help put that together? I
10:52mean, you see, you mentioned video and stuff. Yeah, that's a great question. The sequels of events
10:58happened is, okay, so I officially rejoined the band late, late 2021. And so, you know,
11:07Alex and I, we started looking at into the future. It's like, you know, if we're going
11:10to release some music, let's see what we have. So I was looking on my catalog, he was looking
11:15on his catalog and that's how he rediscovered his, that song. It's like, oh yeah, I've forgotten
11:22about it. There it was. And he says, he sent it to me and he says, what do you think?
11:26And I go, wow, this is, this is phenomenal. You know, even just guitars and, and, and,
11:33and vocals and drums, that was just amazing. You know, so, so I'm listening to it and I'm
11:38going, and it's just like, I'm being emotionally stirred. As a matter of fact, there's a part
11:42in that video that it's actually me listening to that song for the first time. And so it was,
11:51I thought it was one of the best things Quiet Riot had ever done, you know, and now that,
11:58that, that I listened to, to the track as a whole, I'm going like, wow, this is one of
12:04Kevin's best performances that overall, everybody.
12:08Yeah. And then, but like I said, like, like watching that video for the first time, I mean,
12:12I was moved and I didn't, you know, I, I met Frankie and I actually, I knew Kevin a little
12:17bit from my early days in radio and stuff. And, you know, and he's been, he's been gone
12:20a long time and I'm watching that video myself. And I'm the first thing that kind of thought
12:24that kind of struck me was like, maybe like the Johnny Cash hurt video, but in a way different
12:29way, of course, you've seen that video, correct?
12:31Oh yes. I've seen it. Yeah. I mean, this was like, I've seen it. I've seen it. This was
12:36like a, like a real emotional type video like that.
12:39Yeah. Because it takes you through, you know, the, the, the first section of the, of the song
12:43is, it's about Kevin and then he passes. And then Frankie is celebrating Kevin's memory by
12:49going back and putting the band together. And then he's diagnosed with cancer. So you have like
12:57this whole, the cycle begins again, you know, and this one really detailed because Regina was there
13:04to capture those moments, you know, but, but the ending, the ending is very uplifting and it's the,
13:12the ending and kept, you know, to me, it really represents the reason why we carry on, you know,
13:18as a band, you know, Quiet Riot. And it was basically, you know, when I joined, rejoined the band in late
13:272021, it was, you have Alex Grossi who had been playing with Kevin for 20 years, you know, or, or
13:38in Quiet Riot for 20 years because he kept playing with Quiet Riot after Kevin passed away.
13:43So Kevin picked him and groomed him even as, as a young player on, on all things Quiet Riot, you know,
13:51the consciousness, what, what the band is about. And then you have Jizzy who came into the band,
13:59Jizzy Pearl and picked by, by Frankie after, after Kevin passed away. And then you have Johnny Kelly on
14:06drums who Frankie picked to, to originally sub for him. And then when, when he realized that he was
14:13not going to be able to play for a while because of his condition, he asked Johnny to stay on and,
14:21you know, be a permanent drummer until Frankie could actually go out there and do it because he
14:26never lost the, you know, the hope of getting back on stage again because I'm playing drums. That's,
14:34that's what it's, that's Frankie. You know, I, I first met Frankie, actually I saw him play the
14:41night before I met him. So yeah, if, if there's anything you can, you know, any, you can actually,
14:48uh, describe any word that describes Frankie will be drummer. Yeah. Yeah. Johnny Kelly's a friend of
14:56mine. Uh, we, we, uh, we're both, uh, we're both brothers in hockey. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's great.
15:02I, I, I love Johnny really do. It's kind of cool that, you know, you rejoined the band and you really
15:07are the gateway to the heyday of quiet riot. You know what I'm saying? It's like when people go
15:12there, they're, they're seeing quiet, right. And like you said, you're kind of, uh, keeping this
15:16music alive. I mean, of course with a Jizzy and Johnny and Alex as well, but you were really there
15:21when, when quiet riot took over the world. Um, actually I was there even before quiet,
15:27right. You know, let's say 78, you know, and I took away from the band, two elements,
15:34two elements that I think are fundamental for any successful group. One of them is what Randy
15:40wrote, brought to the band, which was musical, uh, integrity, integrity. He was born into a musical
15:48family, his mom and dad, music professors. They have a school. The family still has a school
15:54Musonia of music. Randy was a musician before he even joined a rock band. I'm talking about,
16:02you know, he knew how to play classical guitar and he side read. And then he became a teacher
16:09when I first joined the band, he was already a teacher at Musonia. So the musical integrity
16:15was paramount to the level of no other musician I've ever played with. Uh, just because this
16:24is, this was Randy, this is what Randy was born to do. It wasn't like, I don't even think he
16:29had a choice in it. He just flowed into it. He's born and then into a musical family and he's
16:35a musician, you know, and, uh, I mean, to the point that he made certain choices and decisions
16:44in, in, in his, um, in his career based on his musical integrity, uh, just to encapsulate
16:50what I just said when, when he was basically there was a demand by the record company that
17:00Randy would record Speak of the Devil, which was the re-recordings of Black Sabbath songs
17:07by Ozzy Osbourne. Wait a second, hold on for one second. So that was already determined
17:10before Randy died that you guys were going to do a live Sabbath record? Oh yeah. Okay.
17:15I didn't know that. Okay. All right, go ahead. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. And, uh, not only
17:21a live record, but a live video of us recording that. And if I'm not mistaken, that's because
17:27Sabbath put out that live evil. Is that right? So Ozzy, you had actually, they were working
17:32on it, but then again, it was not Ozzy's. It was the, it was the record company. Okay.
17:37Got you. Okay. You know, and, uh, so Randy quit the band. He gave Ozzy, you know, notice
17:45that he was going to go back to school, get his degree. It wasn't like, I'm going to, I'm
17:50going to quit the band. I'm going to put my own band together and keep doing this. No,
17:54it was like, I'm going back to school. I'm going to get my, my degree, my master's degree
17:59in music. That's what they care, you know? And, and then, and then he died, you know,
18:05and, and to, and to actually watch Randy's integrity at the level of being a local legend
18:13in Los Angeles prior to joining on Ozzy and then me joining Randy in Ozzy and watch him with
18:22this, this ultimate level of musical integrity as a member of Ozzy after he had received
18:30the best new guitar player award. I mean, he was already a bonafide rock star living legend
18:37by the time that, that he died, by the time that he actually gave notice to Ozzy that he
18:45was going to go back to school. Uh, I learned that and that's been engraved in me ever since.
18:55So wherever I go, I bring that. Also when Randy left Choir Riot, the, the band ceased to exist
19:04as a band. It became Dubrow, which is Kevin put his band together. And I got to tell you
19:13his level of tenacity at a time when the music that he was doing was nowhere to be seen as far
19:23as what was coming from, from England, because we're talking 40 something years ago, there was
19:28no social network that you could see. Yes, there's a Def Leppard and an Iron Maiden and a Saxon
19:34and a Motorhead making it really kicking butt in England and Europe. Nobody knew that. I knew that
19:43because those were some of the opening bands for Ozzy. Yeah. I knew about Def Leppard kicking butt.
19:49Yeah. It was easy. I would see them every night. I knew about Motorhead kicking butt and we'd see
19:55them every night. We toured with Saxon in Europe. I saw Iron Maiden in England when I was there. I saw
20:01everything that was going on. So what we would do is Randy and I would come on a break back home
20:07to LA. First thing we would do, go, go to Kevin's place, pick him up, take him to the rainbow and give
20:11him a report. Mainly don't quit what you're doing. By the way, there's these guys in England. They bang
20:19their heads against the stage when we play. That's where, that's where head banging and bang your head
20:25came from. Randy and I reporting to Kevin what was actually going on. But, you know, but even with
20:33that, the tenacity that Kevin had to have to keep on going in Los Angeles when at the time, the music
20:40that not only he was making, but everybody else, I mean, Motley Crue was out there. Rat was out there.
20:47You know, Blackie had his own thing going on. Gray White, I think it was called Dante Fox at the time.
20:53They had their thing there, but they were still going at it. See, we did not know how to all of a sudden
20:58turn around and become punk or new wave. We could be influenced by it, but we would sound like,
21:06and that's what, that's what 80s metal is. If you put a 70s metal and 80s metal in between,
21:13there was punk and new wave. So you're going to have this, this kind of like Black Sabbath,
21:18uh, the purple metal 70s. And listen, you got the 80s metal. All these guys, including myself,
21:27we were playing in the same clubs as all the new wave and punk mans were in LA. You have to be
21:33influenced because you watch them and you go, shit, these guys are kicking ass on stage. They're just
21:40playing like that. That's, you know, they're, they're being punk. It's like early who destroying
21:46things and, you know, being like very, you know, in your face, you got to bring that to your music.
21:51So that in your face attitude was not there in the seventies from metal bands. It came around in
21:59the eighties. Thanks to new wave of punk. You know, you're just talking about this. It just reminded
22:06me, I know you didn't see the documentary, but there was a guy who was teaching Randy
22:09guitar lessons. And at one point he came to his mom and says, I can't teach Randy anymore. And
22:15she said, why not? He goes, because he's teaching me now. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. That's a,
22:21but that's because, you know, it's rare for me to even think back and say, oh yeah, I remember Randy
22:28not playing a guitar or having a guitar, not having a guitar on him because he always was playing the
22:35guitar, unless we were traveling like on a plane, you know, you were not allowed to bring your
22:39instrument on board or something like that, but given the opportunity, he will be playing.
22:44Yeah. It sounds like my friend, John five. He's always noodling.
22:47Oh, Johnny. Yeah. You know that I, I had a band with Johnny when he was 19 years old.
22:52I did not know. Go ahead. Tell me about this. I would have texted him.
22:55Yeah, go ahead.
22:57Okay. Johnny, this before he had a number.
22:59Okay. 1990 at the beginning of the white snake slip of the tongue tour, David announces that he was
23:08going to put the band on, on, you know, on hold and pursue some personal, you know, things that he
23:15needed to achieve. And, and so everybody in the band, you know, especially Steve Vai, Steve Vai was
23:21working on his solo career. So he just, you know, he just crossfaded into that. And what I did is I,
23:28I put a young band together pretty much in, in what we were, I was doing. I was successful with,
23:35with eighties metals. I'm going to keep doing this, not knowing that the horizon was grunge
23:41because it was coming out of Seattle. It was not, it was not on the census trip.
23:45It was really far away from Seattle. I mean, from the census trip in Seattle. So, so, you know, I,
23:52somebody says, Hey, check this guy out. He's a, he's playing tonight at Gazzari's. So, so I go and
23:59there's like five people there, you know, my wife and I were, they were just walking in and, and so
24:06the band comes on and Gazzari's had the stage. You could actually see people entering the, the,
24:11the stage from the dressing room, which was upstairs, going down some stair, staircase.
24:17And on the way down, and I was not aware of this, but the singer hurts himself on the way down,
24:23going down the staircase. So he tells Johnny, do a guitar solo, kind of like, you know, so he can
24:29wrap his head around with a bandage or something. Right. So he starts playing a solo and going,
24:35this is incredible. You know, when do you actually hear a band opening up their set with a guitar solo?
24:41So, you know, and so I, he's just blew me away and his confidence, his tone, everything about him.
24:47He was 19 years old. So we are, we put a band together called Sun King. We got signed to Giant
24:53Records and, and then grunge happened. I'll never forget that John comes in, he already knew how to
25:00play a team spirit. And, and he goes, and I go to him and he's like playing and I'm going because
25:07now I'm frustrated because now the record company is, it's like calling us up and say,
25:12uh, you guys got to make some changes musically. And it's like, it's like, okay, first of all,
25:19in hindsight, if I would have not have had my, my head stuck up, up my eighties, but so much,
25:27so far away, you know, into, I would have realized, wait a minute, a lot of these bands are very
25:34black Sabbath influence. Yeah. I play with Ozzy. I know where this is coming from.
25:43Let me go in that direction. No, but I didn't, you know, I, I could have, but I didn't,
25:48and it would have been great. I would have had a blast, you know, going back into that
25:51more like that dark and black Sabbath, early Sabbath, you know, with, with, uh, with Ozzy metal.
25:57Yeah. Like Soundgarden. The first time I heard Soundgarden, I'm like, this is like black Sabbath.
26:01Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. And, uh, but I didn't. So we just kept going in that, you know,
26:07trying to like convince the record company that you need an eighties metal band because we're coming
26:14back. Well, it's funny that you bring it up back in 1990 or so. And now here in 2023,
26:21John five is going to be touring with Motley Crue. Yeah. And I got to tell you, he's, you know,
26:27of course, with all due respect to make, you know, make his, you know, fondly member of Motley Crue,
26:32but make, make the decision because of his health. And we're, you know, we're all aware of that his,
26:38about his health. So it's always, it's a health decision. And also I know Nikki, Nikki, Nikki loves,
26:47you know, you know, Motley Crue is like oxygen for him, you know? So I am glad that,
26:53that, that, that Mick has, has made a, uh, he's at peace with his decision, which means that there
27:01is a piece of the puzzle missing. And the piece of the puzzle happens to be John five. And I couldn't
27:08think of a better living guitar player than John five to come in and be a member of Motley Crue.
27:15Because one thing about Johnny, Johnny's always been a fan. I know he's a huge fan of Motley Crue.
27:23Right. So there's nothing better than to have somebody who is actually not doing it for the
27:28money by doing it because they think this is the best gig or the best band they've ever been in.
27:36Yeah, no, John is the best. And there's not a song I don't think in the planet that he can't play.
27:41But, um, real fast. I just wanted to ask you about this. I'm running out of time here on my
27:45zoom, but, uh, uh, Rick Rubin, just, I just saw this today. He said, Paul McCartney is the best
27:50base base player of all time. Uh, what, what are you, what are you, what are your thoughts on that?
27:55I've been saying that before Rick Rubin.
27:57Yeah. I think Paul, I just saw a thing just yesterday. Paul saying that, uh, the benefit of
28:03Mr. Kite is the, is the best baseline he think he's ever written. And he talked about how,
28:07how he plays it and he has to sing it at the same time. And it's kind of going in different
28:11directions. So I thought that was kind of interesting.
28:14Yeah. Counterpoint. Uh, but you know, he's also a piano player, right? So, you know, he, you know,
28:20he's got, you know, playing the bass and playing chords with his left hand and playing with the
28:26right hand. So he's got that, uh, he's got an internal clock that very few musicians have.
28:31Elton John is one of them. John Bonham, uh, Frankie Benelli had it. Um, that just, it's,
28:37it's just, it's perfection. You just play to that. I've never heard McCartney ever play bad.
28:43And it's like, it's yeah, it's magnificent, you know? Yeah. He's definitely one of the best.
28:50And, uh, you know, I, I watched that Rick Rubin thing, uh, three, two, one on Hulu a few years back.
28:55Did you see that one? Oh yeah. And them dissecting the songs was incredible.
28:59Absolutely. And now that I've done a little bit of research, there's, if you go back and watch
29:07when Rick Rubin, uh, solos the bass line on my guitar, gently weeps and, and he gives McCartney
29:16accolades for it. Well, it's so, it so happens that, that there is a, uh,
29:25research that's been done to the recording of that song. And it's, and it's most likely John Lennon
29:32playing a six string bass that they just had acquired from, uh, from Fender at that time.
29:41And that they were using in the studio. If you look at the, uh, the letter, what is it?
29:46Is it still called let it be, or is it called something else? When, when, when Jackson came
29:51in and redid the, uh, the Beatles documentary, are you talking about, Oh, get back, get back.
29:57There you go. Yeah. I, I originally had to ask let it be. Yeah. That's a fantastic documentary
30:02as well. Yeah. Yeah. You, you'll see Lennon and George, uh, switching over playing that six
30:09string bass that I'm talking about. Yeah. That's interesting. Yeah. Well, I'll tell you what, Rudy,
30:15thanks so much for the time rehab relapsed and remastered and, uh, congrats on the, the
30:18metal hall of fame. I know we didn't get a chance to touch on that, but, uh, that's, you know,
30:22you were just there last week, right? Yeah. But I actually got inducted along with Frankie
30:27Benally. That's right. Yeah. About five, six years ago. And, and yeah, I know the thing that,
30:33that I want to mention before we go over is the fact that we're
30:37the 40th anniversary of metal health this year. Oh, okay. Wow.
30:4540 years. Wow. Yeah. I can remember. I can remember as a kid, uh, yeah. Ranging my head
30:52out to that one. That's for sure. But man, what memory? Awesome. So when is that going
30:56to be released? No, no, it's not. Uh, you mean the fort? No, we're just touring. Oh,
31:01touring. Okay. Yeah. You, you, you're, you're, you're video, your video kind of got, okay.
31:05I got you. Your video froze up there for a second. I didn't hear exactly what you said.
31:09Okay. I got you. Well, listen, uh, send the best out to my band, uh, to out to the band,
31:13of course, with, uh, Johnny and Jizzy and, uh, Alex, uh, good guys right there. I've never
31:17had a chance to meet Jizzy, but man, I loved, love hate. I got to get him on the, on the show
31:21here one day. Yeah. He's great. He's awesome. Yeah.
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