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00:00Thank you, Shannon.
00:01Tom, the man, Mazzoway, and Matthew Dizel-Derry will join us momentarily for said Crosstalk.
00:07Rico, Ryan, I got a text message I want to read to you, and I think you'll be proud of yourself afterwards.
00:12Okay.
00:13From a friend of mine named Lauren, she said,
00:17Well said, and what I said, never underestimate inspiration.
00:21Ryan may not realize it, but both of you are helping to inspire others right now,
00:25especially those like myself who are in sports media and hope to work in sports one day.
00:31I appreciate that.
00:32So, that's great.
00:33You can inspire somebody.
00:34Is that somebody you know?
00:35Yeah, shaking somebody's hand.
00:37Come on in.
00:37Check out a show someday.
00:39Oh, I told her she can come in.
00:40Absolutely.
00:41So, yeah, she's got a scheduling conflict, but I told her, yeah, we can try and get her in the studio.
00:47Sometimes inspiration does help out.
00:49I understand that.
00:51Look, there's no right or wrong way to talk about that topic.
00:56It's like when I say Golden State, when I say I like Golden State, well, then you say Calvin Johnson sucks.
01:01I'm saying that, but that's how it comes across.
01:05So, yes, and for those just joining us, where the heck have you been?
01:10We've been out here since 8 o'clock this morning, and make sure you keep listening to us,
01:14because we're going to keep this party going, folks, until forever.
01:18Until they fire us.
01:19Well, I didn't want to say that.
01:21We're going to keep going 8 o'clock until noon until they fire us.
01:24But, yes, Draymond Green donated $3.1 million to the Michigan State basketball program.
01:31They're going to build an add-on to the practice facilities and a recruiting center and do a lot of other things.
01:37And, again, you know, it's difficult, like I said, any time you talk about something like that,
01:42because it's great what he did, but, you know, it gives me a little bit of pause,
01:47and you think of all the good that that money can do somewhere else.
01:51It's no different than when Stephen Ross donates $100 million to Michigan's football department.
01:56I mean, I can think of a lot better ways to spend somebody else's $100 million, right?
02:02I mean, it's true, but you know what?
02:05You forget about money, but you know what you really remember?
02:07Oh, when this guy put his arm around me when I was a 7-year-old kid and said,
02:12Son, you could be me one day, and that inspires you to go out and become the next great basketball player.
02:18Or, you know, if all of a sudden Charles Woodson goes up to a kid and says,
02:22Yeah, you could win a Heisman.
02:23You could do all this stuff.
02:24I did it.
02:25He'll remember that talk, but he may not remember the money that was given,
02:29but he'll remember that moment and that talk and those words that Charles Woodson or somebody gave.
02:35Fair enough.
02:35It's a great picture, by the way.
02:36Yeah, no, that's a good picture.
02:38Eastside Paul gave Rico and I a couple of Rose Bowl pictures.
02:43He looked everybody up, actually.
02:44That was great, man.
02:45Oh, that is in the Rose Bowl, yes.
02:48Paul's a good man, and we deliver a bunch of good...
02:51I haven't opened mine yet.
02:52Look at these CYO champions of 2015 St. Joan of Arc Chargers.
02:56That's right, the Joan of Arc Boners.
02:58Let's go, Joan Zone.
02:59Baz gave me this shirt, actually.
03:01But yeah, Eastside Paul, he wrote a nice letter to us.
03:04I mean, he's a P1 and a regular listener.
03:06He wanted to drop off some stuff from pretty much everybody here.
03:09Can I ask a stupid question?
03:10Yeah.
03:11I haven't been in radio that long.
03:14I think this is like my second year.
03:17What is a P1?
03:19A P1?
03:20Yeah, what is a P1?
03:21A P1, yeah.
03:23What does that mean?
03:24You're the first press on their...
03:26Oh, pressing what?
03:27Yeah, it means that we're the presets on the...
03:29Oh, okay.
03:30We're their presets.
03:30P1, yes.
03:32Oh, okay.
03:32P1 listener.
03:33Oh, okay.
03:34Is Paul from Shelby, and Abe from Southfield, and Abe from Dearborn, Brian...
03:39Drew, Phil.
03:40Drew, Phil, you know, those types.
03:42Laura.
03:43All right.
03:44Fair enough.
03:44People like that.
03:45All right, that's inside radio biz lingo that I just...
03:49I hear you.
03:50Dude, what is this?
03:51You have a problem with Draymond Green?
03:53No, I don't have a problem with it.
03:54I've given money.
03:55I heard this.
03:56I'm like, what?
03:57I don't have a problem with it.
03:58Do you rather see the money go into a place that needs it more?
04:00Well, it...
04:01No.
04:01I kind of see that.
04:02Not only that, it's...
04:04I have no problem with Draymond Green giving Michigan State money.
04:07What I said was, and I know what I said was going to be taken out of context.
04:12Any time that I hear stuff like this, it gives me pause.
04:16Draymond Green is from Saginaw, a place that has kids in that area that...
04:22Nasty.
04:22They could probably use...
04:24But how do you know he's not giving somebody...
04:25I don't know.
04:26Right.
04:27It's more publicized because...
04:28You know what?
04:29I'll tell you this.
04:30If he did give the city of Saginaw $3.1 million, you can bet your bottom dollar we would have
04:35known about it and we would be talking about it on the air.
04:39I just...
04:39Look, there's something...
04:41Any time I hear anything like this, I just think, okay, you're in Oakland.
04:44You've played for the Warriors.
04:46You know the impact that $3.1 million can do for kids over there or Saginaw or Detroit.
04:53There are just so many other ways I'd like to spend that money.
04:56And we had Ralph Farnett on, who's from that neighborhood, known as Draymond for a while.
05:01And he's saying, just Draymond talking about Saginaw positively helps out in the community.
05:07And if it does inspire some kid to say, Draymond made it out of these surroundings, I can do
05:13it too.
05:13You know, usually I don't care if people hear what they want to hear when I say something.
05:17No, I know.
05:18Because I understand that.
05:18But for whatever reason, I do care.
05:20I really hope people don't mistake what I'm saying about Draymond Green's very generous
05:25gift to the Michigan State University basketball team.
05:27Well, you had a couple people saying you just hate him because he's a Spartan.
05:30And he doesn't, folks.
05:32I love Draymond Green.
05:34He's awesome.
05:35Yeah.
05:35And you know what?
05:36He's kind of a badass.
05:36He just texted and said, I'm never coming on your show now.
05:39I hate him.
05:39Well, it's like Will Goldston.
05:41Sign Desmond Howard.
05:42Will Goldston.
05:43That was awesome.
05:44What's up, Maz?
05:45Hey, boys.
05:46Don't get him started.
05:47How was it?
05:48How's everybody?
05:49Good, man.
05:50Hi, Tom.
05:50Maz.
05:51I thought about you twice last night.
05:54Thanks, man.
05:55Can we not get him started?
05:56Are you kidding me?
05:57I'm about to jumpstart.
05:58I'm about to kick this hornet's nest.
06:00I want to know what your favorite part of the movie, Fletch, is.
06:03I love that book.
06:05John Carl Colson.
06:06When Will Allen came unlocked and destroyed Tom Brady, I sent Maz a tweet.
06:21I saw it.
06:22I saw it, yeah.
06:24Will Allen just made, at Tom Mazaway, jump out of his chair.
06:28And then Maz responds with, I would have maybe if I was watching the game.
06:33And I send back, there is zero possibility that you are not watching this game.
06:38And Maz, you know, gets all personal and touchy.
06:40Why would I lie to you?
06:42Have I ever lied to you?
06:44I'm watching the movie Fletch.
06:46And Fletch lives.
06:47Part two?
06:48Now you all saw that.
06:49I saw it was on.
06:51And you know, that was the first time I saw Fletch lives, because I heard it was so bad.
06:54It wasn't.
06:54It's bad.
06:55It wasn't.
06:55I mean, it was not.
06:56It was like Caddyshack, too.
06:58It was bad because you had no expectation.
07:00It was lower.
07:01But then, when all of a sudden, the headsets for the Steelers were getting.
07:07They had Fletch on, too.
07:08Yeah, they had Fletch on, along with the Patriots on broadcast team.
07:12But here's the best part about it, is when the one side's headphones don't work, headsets
07:17don't work, the rep has to go and take the other team's headsets away.
07:22Right.
07:22But every time they walked over to the New England side, all of a sudden, the Steelers' radio
07:28started working again.
07:29So, they never took them from the Patriots.
07:31The minute they walked away, they would go haywire again.
07:35This is an NFL deal, though.
07:39Headsets are controlled by the NFL.
07:42What did the Patriots have to do?
07:44I don't know.
07:44Maybe they have a bad radio area.
07:46I mean, the NFL has come out and apologized, essentially, right?
07:51That's good.
07:52Then they should apologize to every single team that goes in there.
07:54I'm not saying that they don't.
07:56Let me tell you this.
07:57If Mike Tomlin told me to run in the middle of Woodward, right now, I would.
08:03I don't care how many cars are coming at me or whatever, because I'm not going to
08:05do anything that guy tells me to do.
08:08He's a great coach.
08:08All right.
08:09So, when that guy is complaining about it, you better listen.
08:12He's not a whiner.
08:13No, he's not.
08:14He's not.
08:15And he looked ticked like.
08:16He's ticked.
08:17Basically, he was biting his tongue like, I want to go full beast mode on you guys and
08:22tell you exactly how I feel, but I don't want to be a million dollars poor.
08:27Let's just say this isn't the first time this happens.
08:30And you heard me clearly.
08:31I don't know how many people were watching this closely enough, but Ben Roethlisberger,
08:36before the game started, like right as the kickoff was happening, Patriots won the toss,
08:41deferred to the second half.
08:42So, Pittsburgh is getting the ball first.
08:45You can really see Ben Roethlisberger on the sidelines, look at somebody on the sidelines
08:51and point to his helmet.
08:53And they're like, do you want a new helmet?
08:54And he's like pointing to his helmet like this, and now you know that he's like hearing
09:00something in his helmet.
09:01How embarrassing.
09:02It really is.
09:02Because you figured last night, once the game kicked off, there'd be no more Deflategate,
09:07there'd be no more Patriots or Cheaters, it'd be a football game.
09:11And the entire game, 28-14 third quarter, it's still a game.
09:16New England's running away with it, but it's a two-score game.
09:18Al and Chris start filibustering about Deflategate again, and how Chris said, well, I sat with
09:26Tom yesterday, and Tom said he destroyed his phone because...
09:28His counsel told him.
09:30He gets rid of messages anyway, and then they go to break, and then there's Bernie Smilovitz
09:34coming out.
09:34And so I'm thinking, Bernie Smilovitz has a big story brewing.
09:37So it's like, I'm not saying that Twitter is everything, but instead of talking about
09:42the football game, which we've been waiting months for, it turned into a, Brad might get
09:46fired, and look, that's not, I don't know, breaking news.
09:49It's not.
09:50But that was like, what's Bernie going to say?
09:52Because I don't know, maybe Illich is selling.
09:53I mean, I happen to think Bernie Smilovitz has sources, and I don't know this for a fact,
09:57but Bernie, I think Bernie's son, Jake, I believe, Mike Illich, was at his bar mitzvah
10:02years ago.
10:02Bernie has a relationship with the Illich family.
10:04Bernie and Mike are very close.
10:05So this is, so this story about Brad, by the way, on WMGC-FM HD1 Detroit.
10:11Oh, you got it, okay.
10:13Can I hit, I've never hit the bell before.
10:15Come on, come on.
10:16You got it, I've never hit the bell, by the way.
10:18Who knows to Bernie for having it?
10:20Yeah, no, it's not out to him, that's fine, but again, it's not a breaking story, because
10:24nobody knows if Brad's leaving, or is going to be gone.
10:28What's so disgusting about it is now, remember for years about Michigan, oh, there's factions
10:33at Michigan.
10:34Big blue wall.
10:34There's the Lloyd faction, the Brady faction, the Bo faction, the anti-Michigan faction, the
10:41Jamie Morris faction, the this faction, that faction.
10:43Charles Woodson saying, I played for Lloyd Carr.
10:45Right, right.
10:46There are factions now.
10:48Yeah.
10:49Hold on.
10:50Now, Edmonton Coleman-Wiffen Room.
10:52You've got Gillich faction, you've got player faction, you've got Chris faction, Mike faction,
10:58and now you have front office.
10:59Chris McCoskey tweeted out this morning, the front office people, from what he's been told,
11:03Al Avila, David Chad, they didn't know this was going to get leaked out from the very top.
11:08How do you like, how do you like to be Brad Ausmus today in your hotel room in Cleveland?
11:11It's sad.
11:11It's awful.
11:12Whether he's a good manager or not, and he should be fired, and he should have been fired
11:15a month ago, this is not how you treat somebody.
11:18This is classless and disgusting.
11:20This organization is going down the tubes, and they're going down the tubes fast.
11:24It looks bad.
11:25And when you fire, and I mentioned this a couple of times throughout our show, so I'll mention
11:29it again.
11:30When you fire Dave Dombrowski after 14 years by telephone, and you allow his young son
11:37to come with him to work that day so he can cry his eyes out as his dad just got fired,
11:43when you tell an assistant general manager, hey, we're going to give you the job, but just
11:48hold on for a couple of days.
11:50Right.
11:50And matter of fact, go party with him.
11:52Let's go party with him.
11:52Right, go to the Jack's Place brought to the event the night before.
11:56And then you are not going to sit next to him and take the bullets regarding this franchise,
12:01and you make him look like some buffoon who doesn't have the answer to anything that people
12:06have the questions for.
12:08That's a bad look.
12:09Now you're, I know personally, and I'm not going to reveal this person because I don't
12:13have the authority to.
12:14I know personally somebody who texted Brad Ausmus last night after Bernie's tease.
12:20We all knew what it was, right?
12:21We all knew what Bernie was going to say.
12:22We had an idea of what it was.
12:23Right?
12:24Yeah.
12:24So this person texted Brad Ausmus and said, there is going to be a report coming out about
12:30your job status at the end of the year.
12:33You know, do you have a comment on it?
12:36I have, I know nothing about this.
12:38Right.
12:38Follow up.
12:40You really have no idea that this is coming out today.
12:43Have you been told anything about your job status in the future?
12:47I have been told nothing about my job status in the future.
12:51Nothing.
12:52Terrible.
12:52So now you have a manager.
12:55Why?
12:55He has to work tonight.
12:56He's going to go tonight.
12:57Ken Rosenthal, he should never manage a game for the year.
12:59Why do this to Brad Ausmus?
13:01How do you make Brad Ausmus be a sympathetic thing?
13:04He has been, he has turned into a sympathetic thing.
13:07Because he's a person.
13:08He's got a wife and two daughters out in San Diego, and his daughters are probably going
13:11to school today, I think one's a senior, one's a sophomore, I believe.
13:15And the people at school are going, so on Twitter, your dad's getting fired.
13:19Because there's a right way and a wrong way to do things, and it's being held wrong.
13:23I'll say that he should have been gone, and that Omar Vizquel should have gotten a month
13:27and a half of, just to look to see if he could do the part.
13:30Because Brad's not getting it done.
13:31Now, it's too late.
13:34They could have had an on-the-field job interview.
13:37They could have been an on-the-job interview.
13:39And you could have just said it, and Al Avila could have come out a week or two weeks
13:42even after getting the job.
13:42He said, you know what, guys, I made a mistake.
13:44I said I was going to keep Brad's at the end of the year, but we're not, it's not,
13:46the team's not responding right now, and I want to see what we have on Omar Vizquel.
13:49We're going to make him the interim guy and see what's up.
13:51That's it.
13:52And Brad would have gone out to San Diego.
13:54Instead, now, they're on the road after the game, and so the game's over,
13:59the beat writer's going to talk to him, then this report hits after everybody cleared out.
14:03So you're right, Brad goes back to his home tour room, he's getting texts,
14:05I know McCoskey hit him up, because Chris got his comment of,
14:08I know nothing either.
14:09Chris Iyad on MLive wrote a great piece about it today,
14:12that it's not how you treat people.
14:15Who would want to come here and manage right now here?
14:17Right now, it reminds me a lot of what I saw happen with the San Francisco 49ers.
14:22Went from being the class of the NFL to a joke,
14:25to now you can't hold on to your coaches, your players are all being arrested,
14:30and it's a joke.
14:31Well, the thing about it, Rico, and guys, feel free to comment on this,
14:36everybody's trying to, nobody knows who's in charge,
14:40and everybody's trying to jockey to get their voice heard.
14:43Everybody kind of wants to get near the person who's at the top and making the decisions.
14:47When Dave Dombrowski was here, nothing like this was happening.
14:50No, right, correct.
14:51He ran everything.
14:52Yeah.
14:53He had his hand in everything, and everybody knew what their places were.
14:58How'd you like to be Ron Colangelo or Eileen in media relations and PR?
15:02Well, the way the players treat them alone is despicable.
15:05You basically just say, guys, what do you know that I don't?
15:08I mean, how'd you like to have that job?
15:09Right, because you don't know.
15:10What a terrible position to be put in.
15:12Before I make a fool of myself.
15:13Interfactions between ownership and the front office guy that just got the job?
15:18That's awful, man.
15:20You're right.
15:21Brad Austin has done a lousy job.
15:23He's not a good manager.
15:25He should be fired.
15:26Either fire him or not.
15:28Right.
15:28But this, well, there's going to be a report at the end of the year,
15:31and Scott Miller from Bleacher Report said, oh, he'll get the Padre gig.
15:35If he wants it, it's probably his.
15:37Let him go then.
15:39To go through that last night and to be back in your hotel room
15:42and have to come manage tonight.
15:44How are his players going to play for him tonight?
15:46Knowing that he, not only is he a lame duck,
15:48has there been any denial of that report by ownership or the front office today?
15:53They still haven't told us what Dombrowski's got.
15:56I mean, what?
15:56They still haven't told us.
15:57What a clown show.
15:58Nor will you ever know.
15:59It's just, it's becoming quite laughable.
16:02Well, it's actually not laughable.
16:03It's sad is what it is.
16:05And the players haven't quit, to be honest.
16:06I watched it last night's game.
16:08I was watching it last night's game.
16:09You know why I haven't.
16:10I was at, well, I know.
16:11I was at Fox 2 last night.
16:12We were watching the game, and they're down 3-1, they come back.
16:15They're down 4-5-3, they come back.
16:18You know what I mean?
16:19By the way, Brad Ausmus letting Michael Brantley beat him is ridiculous.
16:22And people go, well, you can't walk Brantley to put the winning run on second.
16:25Why not?
16:26Right.
16:26I've got a picture of that dog, Santana, than Brantley, who kills them.
16:31He murders them.
16:33That's also on Brad.
16:35I was enjoying every minute of it.
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16:41Have a great day, great weekend, a football Friday.
16:44Did you just say the magic words, Mr. Ryan Romani?
16:48Because, ladies and gentlemen, it is.
16:51Yes, Rico?
16:52No, no.
16:52Played the dish.
16:53It is.
16:55As we plate this dish, a football Friday.
16:58It's back.
16:59It is.
17:00Officially.
17:01Oh, mercy.
17:03Ron Crichton's got new drops.
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