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00:00Remember, Maz, my discussion about B-teams and how I don't believe in B-teams in baseball?
00:10If you have one team, that's it. There's no such thing as a B-team.
00:14Obviously, you are.
00:15Like, I'm watching my B-team right now.
00:17Right, right, right, right, right, right, right, Frankie Cervelli, baby!
00:21Ron Freighton is really into his B-team right now.
00:23It's so nauseous.
00:24Well, yeah, because I like winning baseball in a team that's not filled with a bunch of whiners.
00:28The Tigers were winners for a long time.
00:31Yeah, they were.
00:31They own the Central four years in a row.
00:33Yeah, and then apparently they sold it for cheap.
00:36Well, I mean, when you really look at it, Ron is glued, man. He's glued like it's his 18th.
00:42Well, there's going to be a blackout in Pittsburgh when they face the Cubbies.
00:45Is that game going to be in Pittsburgh?
00:47Yeah.
00:48Whoa.
00:48Yeah.
00:49Sorry.
00:49Unless...
00:50Okay, Joe, this is connected right here, buddy. Want me to unplug this for you?
00:52Uh, no.
00:53We have a power issue in front of me.
00:55Unless the Pirates, of course, you know, craft the bed, it's not gonna.
00:58So Pittsburgh would host the Cubs.
01:00They'll skate the home ice.
01:01This is the dumbest system of all time.
01:03It'll be two of three soon.
01:05It better be.
01:06It's so ridiculous.
01:08Pittsburgh and Chicago.
01:09Yeah, that's a sin.
01:10It's fantastic.
01:11Let's call it what it is. It's a sin.
01:13That Pittsburgh and Chicago are gonna play one game.
01:15Right.
01:15One green.
01:16Imagine a series.
01:17Oh, God.
01:17If you want to let two crappy teams play one game to get in, that's another story.
01:22I think the loser...
01:23And look, the Dodgers are starting to get hot.
01:24Kershaw last night was throwing some benders that were just incredible.
01:28But you know what?
01:28Pittsburgh or the Cubs could beat the Dodgers pretty easily, in my opinion.
01:31I know that they line up Granke and Kershaw.
01:34But the Dodgers are...
01:35The Dodgers and Don Mattingly are notorious chokers.
01:38Chokers.
01:38Yeah.
01:39And there's something gritty about the Pirates and the Cubs.
01:41And they're both a very talented team.
01:44So that's where it takes me.
01:45The NL is the ruling issue.
01:47And the AL wild card game?
01:50You know, the Yankees?
01:52Yeah, it's a bad game.
01:53They're limping.
01:54It's a bad game.
01:55Yankees Angels, Yankees Astros, Yankees Twins.
01:57They're all bad games.
01:58Can you be bummed Houston has flamed out here this last night?
02:01Well, you know what?
02:01They did the best they could.
02:03Absolutely.
02:04But I know they were overachieving early in the season.
02:06But that was such a feel-good story that I wanted to read for it.
02:08They're not done yet.
02:09They're a half out.
02:09I know.
02:10But you watch these games, it looks like they're kind of flamed.
02:13Oh, yeah.
02:14No doubt.
02:15Rangers are barely hanging on, too, if you ask of me.
02:18Get lost.
02:18I think this town will watch very little of these games.
02:22I really believe that right now.
02:24I'm rock and loaded.
02:25I know you are.
02:26And you know I'll get back to it.
02:27That's because I haven't watched baseball in a month.
02:28Right.
02:29Except for the occasional Dave O'Brien game.
02:30I think there's about four people watching baseball right now on this market.
02:34Me, Drew, Lane, and that's about it.
02:38And Ron's watching the Pirates.
02:39And Ryan, because he's forced to.
02:41I mean, Art Fox, too.
02:42Yeah.
02:42I brought up this awesomest thing earlier, and it was like crickets.
02:48You know, that's just the way it goes.
02:49I'm not sure a lot of people even know that Daniel Norris threw 54 pitches in the first
02:57time.
02:57If you didn't tell me last night, I would not have known it.
02:59And it wasn't in any of the national stories.
03:01It was in, of course, the free press and news.
03:03Right.
03:04And McComb Daily.
03:05And live.
03:06And McComb Daily.
03:07And live.
03:08She's trying both the best.
03:09But yeah, there you go.
03:10Throw them all out there.
03:11You've got to love it.
03:12And shout out to Katie Strang of ESPN.com.
03:14She covers the stuff.
03:15She's awesome.
03:16She's good to us.
03:18Former hockey killer.
03:19Right.
03:19She's been good to us.
03:21So.
03:22Now, when you brought up the whole Brad Ausmus thing and how the fans feel to Nick, he didn't
03:27want to get into it.
03:28No.
03:28He was defending.
03:28But in reality, let's face it.
03:30This is what Tiger fans are looking at.
03:32We went from winning the division, albeit never by a landslide like they should have, to making
03:40two pennants and two flame outs in the World Series, to last year getting swept by the
03:47Orioles and embarrassed in Game 2, booed on home field.
03:52Whether it was right or not, whether it was weak of the fans or not, you knew it was over.
03:55That was the fans frustrated.
03:56You knew it was over.
03:57Right.
03:58And then this year, playing like a clown show, albeit for the first three weeks.
04:03After that, it was a clown show.
04:05And the inmates ran the asylum.
04:07I'm fed up with it.
04:08And I could have, this was an easy fix as far as, I'm sorry, the manager did not manage
04:15that team the last two years properly.
04:18I agree.
04:18He's got to go.
04:19And instead, he's coming back.
04:21And here we go again.
04:23We'll see.
04:24I mean, the players, like you said, the players and Nick, especially.
04:26Of course they want him back.
04:27And here, look, Nick is a young guy.
04:29All right?
04:30I'm giving Nick a pass.
04:31Nick doesn't, Nick admitted.
04:32I don't really know other than September with Leland my first year.
04:36Nick likes Brad.
04:37He doesn't know.
04:38Miguel Cabrera knows.
04:40Victor Martinez knows.
04:41Victor Martinez played for a manager of the year in 2007 in Eric Wedge.
04:46He's played for Terry Francona in Boston.
04:48He knows whether the guy has it or not.
04:51What is Nick's measuring stick?
04:53There is none.
04:54Except for the guys he played for in high school and when he got in the minors.
04:59Right?
05:01So he gets a pass from me on it.
05:02And you guys out there go, oh, Darius is giving Nick a pass because he's friends with him.
05:06He's on the team or he's on the station every week.
05:07No, it's true.
05:09Yeah, sure.
05:09The young guys are going to bat for him because for the most part, some of them have developed.
05:14But the base running?
05:15I do think it's on the manager.
05:17And maybe Brad screams and shouts at them and the message isn't getting through.
05:22Maybe he doesn't.
05:23To me, it hasn't been enough of a sense of urgency.
05:25All the injuries.
05:27All the injuries.
05:28All the trade deadline.
05:29The whole year was bad.
05:31And you know what?
05:31I'm going to say it again.
05:32People only write in and say things happen under Jim Leland.
05:36Yeah, yeah.
05:36Of course, things happen under every manager.
05:38But things like the last two years would not have happened under a veteran manager.
05:43Not some of the issues that occurred.
05:44No.
05:45In the clubhouse.
05:45Clubhouse.
05:46Some of the media stuff that took place.
05:47You think David Price is going to take a crap on Jim Leland?
05:50Right.
05:50And leave.
05:51He's not.
05:52Right.
05:53You know what?
05:53And not know he was back in the game or not?
05:55Give me a break.
05:56Right.
05:56That's embarrassing.
05:58Jim Leland would have intentionally walked Jose Altuve.
06:01Joe Nathan would have had his teeth punched out by Jim Leland.
06:03Right.
06:03Jim Leland also doesn't save relievers when you're leading the A's.
06:07Yeah, he has faults.
06:08They all have faults.
06:09Sure.
06:10And God knows he wasn't perfect by any means.
06:12Correct.
06:13But, jeez.
06:15Yep.
06:15It's not a good scene.
06:17You know what?
06:17I wouldn't send Miggie in the Baltimore series.
06:20Oh.
06:21There's a ton of examples this year.
06:23Many examples.
06:25You know?
06:25And you understand what, you know, what Nick is saying is true though.
06:28Nick and Brad have had a good relationship.
06:30When Nick got pulled from a game for not missing a sign.
06:35He took that.
06:37He said, that was my bad.
06:38Right.
06:38And Brad talked to him.
06:39They had a good relationship.
06:41They had a good rapport.
06:42All the guys have said Brad's been a good communicator with them.
06:45The bottom line is results.
06:46And oh, by the way, ownership doesn't believe in them either because ownership almost fired
06:50them.
06:50But now, the players, they don't really pay much attention to it.
06:54And if they do, Nick's not going to say it on the radio.
06:57He didn't help us like Golden Tate did yesterday.
06:59But to leave your pitcher fry, your ace, for 54 pitches and one in and then bring him back?
07:05I mean, he's not an ace, but he's going to be eventually a very good pitcher.
07:08I wonder if, I'm going to ask Drew because Drew just came in here.
07:11And you're listening to WMGCFM HD1 Detroit.
07:13Got a little crosstalk.
07:14Drew and Mark are in the studio getting ready to rock here.
07:18What's up, Mark?
07:19Oh, you know.
07:20How are you, buddy?
07:21Oh, lovely.
07:22Everything good?
07:23No.
07:24But I'm sorry.
07:24All right.
07:25Yeah.
07:26Yeah.
07:27It's just another day for me.
07:27No one's problem but my own.
07:29Oh, I like that.
07:30So we're giving a hard time again?
07:32Always.
07:33All right.
07:34Let's go.
07:34All right.
07:35Drew, I made a point before.
07:36I said four people in this town are still watching the Tigers.
07:38You, me.
07:39Yeah.
07:41Who else did we say?
07:42Maybe two.
07:42Ryan.
07:43Hermione.
07:44Hermione.
07:44Hermione, he asked you for work.
07:46He's forced to watch them.
07:47And Ron watches the Pirates.
07:48That's his B team.
07:49I can add someone out of market.
07:51My brother still watches every inning.
07:52Still watches?
07:52From Virginia.
07:53That's because he wants to field Detroit.
07:55He sends me a text.
07:56Oh, okay.
07:56Every inning.
07:57Really?
07:58Yeah, usually it's no hit or alert.
07:59Have you ever said him, his name's Jeff, right?
08:02No, this is Danny.
08:02Okay.
08:03He lives down in Virginia.
08:04Did he treat you like crap growing up as well?
08:06Huh?
08:07Did he treat you like crap as well?
08:08No one treated me like crap.
08:09What do you mean?
08:10What are all the stories you tell you?
08:11Oh, yeah.
08:12No.
08:12You paid him for hooking up cable cars?
08:14That's right.
08:15Yeah.
08:15No, he charged me.
08:16Was he the guy?
08:16Yes.
08:17He was the cable guy.
08:17Yeah, he's the instigator.
08:18Yeah, no, it's funny.
08:20My parents went to the Michigan game with me last week.
08:24And my mom was like, you and Danny got away with everything.
08:27I don't know.
08:27I was like, let me rephrase that.
08:30Dan got away with everything.
08:31He's the middle kid.
08:32The middle kid gets away with everything.
08:33Did Al get on to the sidelines again?
08:35No, he didn't.
08:37That's a great story.
08:39Just wandering on to Ohio Stadium in 2006.
08:43As we exit the non-sequitur buffet, Drew, you and I were talking.
08:50You blame Tom, don't blame me.
08:53I know that's what I'm doing.
08:54Non-sequitur is him.
08:56Mr. Lane.
08:58Yes.
08:59Daniel Norris knows 54 pitches in the first inning last night.
09:02We're at the Tilted Kill getting done with the firing line.
09:05Fire.
09:06I love that bit.
09:07And we get done with it.
09:08And I look up on the screen.
09:09I go, Maz, look, he's thrown at 52 pitches and he's still out there.
09:12Then I get in the car.
09:13I go home.
09:13I'm not even paying attention.
09:14Then I get texts from friends.
09:15Like, he's out there for the second.
09:17What do you think of that, Mr. Baseball guy?
09:19And I'm going, there's no way.
09:20That's got to be a mistake.
09:21Like, come on.
09:22You can't have him out there for 54 pitches.
09:24He's 22.
09:26He's your lefty lightning next year.
09:28I mean, it doesn't matter how many pitches he throws altogether, though.
09:31So, it's like he's three innings in the first inning, and maybe they figure he's got a couple left.
09:36But just better safe than sorry, you say, Daniel, that's enough.
09:40I didn't think they were going to ruin his arm.
09:43What happened was he had trouble with his fastball.
09:46He couldn't keep it down.
09:47And then, of course, there's a pop-up, which Marte can't seem to corral a pop-up right to him.
09:51Just dropped it.
09:52Yeah, there was a couple of defensive issues.
09:54Right, the one bad, the ball passed Kinsler.
09:56But, yeah, I guess they could have pulled him after the first inning.
09:58I don't know what the point was.
09:59He wasn't going to pitch a complete game.
10:00He wasn't going to have a quality start.
10:03No.
10:04But, you know, I don't know what the status of the bullpen is right now.
10:06I'm watching the games, but I'm not really following terribly closely.
10:09Jeff Passan, who writes for Yahoo Sports, a baseball writer, who I like, says,
10:13Daniel Norris is coming back out for the second.
10:16That the Tigers front office didn't tell Brad Ausmus to pull him immediately is brutal.
10:21Well, now, wait a second.
10:22Keith Law, can we all agree to give Al Avila a mulligan on the whole Ausmus is coming back thing?
10:27He just let Daniel Norris throw 50 pitches in the first inning.
10:30WTF.
10:31These are pretty respected baseball guys.
10:33Keith Law and Jeff Passan.
10:35You know, two of the runs were earned.
10:36He gave up six runs.
10:37Right.
10:37Only two were earned.
10:39It wasn't entirely his fault.
10:40I think they're saying, here's a 22-year-old guy that in September, in a meaningless game, get him out of there.
10:45There's no point in pushing him to the point where, wow, I threw 50 pitches in one inning, and next thing I feel a twinge in my elbow.
10:51I suppose.
10:51I don't think pitches in one inning, though, is really an issue in terms of hurting your arm.
10:57I mean, somebody like Mickey Lola should be going, ha, ha.
10:59Oh, right, right.
11:00We think it was a completely silly conversation.
11:02And I tend to be from that school.
11:04You know, when he had a perfect game in the fifth inning, it was like, I know, they have to take him out.
11:08Because if anything happens to this guy, of course, it'll be Granoffsman's fault.
11:12And so, I mean, you make managerial moves based on the insanity of it, too.
11:16Sure.
11:17He wasn't going to pitch nine innings.
11:18So why bother pitching six?
11:19Oh, we have another person that's checking in.
11:21That's five people that's watching the Tigers.
11:23Harry Glanz from Capital Mortgage.
11:25Oh, Harry.
11:25Harry.
11:26Yeah.
11:27There you go.
11:28See?
11:28Good job.
11:28Yeah.
11:28Harry's a good man.
11:29And he's a good baseball man.
11:31You know, there's five.
11:32We're not the only ones.
11:32The home games that had a 10 or so hard is 60,000.
11:36Can you believe this?
11:36I saw this past weekend.
11:38The support of the baseball in this town is amazing.
11:402.7 million this year, this terrible year.
11:43I heard you guys talk about it yesterday.
11:44You're right.
11:44The people are still Tigers crazy.
11:46But there's a lot, though, that have shut this off.
11:49Very gruesome.
11:49No, people are going because they have the tickets.
11:52And it's still entertaining to go out there.
11:53And I think, you know, Miguel's going for a batting title.
11:56J.D.
11:56And he's got some younger players.
11:57I like watching the younger players, like McCann and Marte and people like that that have called up.
12:02If you really love the Tigers and you really love baseball, I think you do.
12:05You like to see the guys that are getting a shot to play now.
12:07I do.
12:08Meantime Mark is scooting through his internet reading the Davion Smith stuff.
12:13I'd rather read more about football.
12:15I heard Davion Smith winning the September Heisman.
12:17Is that true?
12:18Sure.
12:19We've got a lot of September Heisman winners.
12:21Right.
12:21Tate Borse.
12:22Yeah.
12:22Was Tate considered a Heisman candidate?
12:25Was he actually like one?
12:25After he beat Notre Dame.
12:26September Heisman.
12:27Okay.
12:28That became a good bid.
12:29Stanton, too.
12:30Michigan State.
12:31Remember the Stanton for Heisman shirts?
12:32That's right.
12:32Stanchise.
12:34Stanchise.
12:35Absolutely.
12:36Stanton was up for NFL MVP after Devouring the Lions last year.
12:39Yeah.
12:40True.
12:40I thought you guys the other day that Mark D'Antonio told HBO no thank you?
12:45Yeah.
12:45I saw that story.
12:47True.
12:47Hard Knocks type show?
12:48To me, that's very D'Antonio.
12:50I thought it was really very much fun.
12:51I had a question about that, though.
12:53Yeah.
12:53The kind of guy he is.
12:56The Big Ten does it.
12:57You told me about Ohio State.
12:58Yeah.
12:59That's what I was going to bring up.
13:00Do you think the Big Ten Network would have any say in what they would do with another network?
13:04Because they do that same kind of show with Ohio State.
13:07Right.
13:07Could they say, look, Michigan State.
13:10I don't know if these schools would have to have something cleared through the Big Ten Network.
13:14I think they would.
13:14So maybe the Big Ten Network said, uh-uh.
13:17Right.
13:17So let's word it a certain way.
13:18Because I'm sure next year they would want, if MSU continues to have success, they're the
13:22next in succession to get that behind-the-scenes show that the Buckeyes got.
13:25Who would want to watch it if they just had it on HBO the year before?
13:29Right.
13:29And to be honest, Michigan would probably be the next choice based on Harbaugh and eyeballs.
13:33But I'm sure Harbaugh would say no.
13:35But you're going to turn down an HBO?
13:37I mean, the Big Ten is going to say, no, you can't at all.
13:39An HBO show?
13:40Yeah, because the Big Ten is writing a check to the school.
13:44The network.
13:44The network is saying, we're helping to pay you and fund some things, so you're not
13:48going to go to another network.
13:50I'm sure there's an exclusivity, right?
13:52I'll tell you, from what I read, that wasn't why they didn't want to do it.
13:55It was because, man, am I wrong on that?
13:57No.
13:58Yeah, D'Antonio just didn't want to do it.
13:59Right.
13:59Well, that might have, it might start there.
14:02I mean, if he's not going to want to do it, it might not even get to the network level.
14:05I'm just curious when I heard that.
14:06I'm like, God, I wonder what the Big Ten network would have said about that.
14:10They wouldn't be too happy about it.
14:11They just did a show on D'Antonio, by the way, following him from arriving at the facility
14:16to the end of the day.
14:16And getting angry.
14:17How often was he disrespected?
14:19A lot.
14:20Quite a few times.
14:21Jeez.
14:23Yeah, they had so many in the cafeteria.
14:24What did you mean by that?
14:25They refused to give him a dessert.
14:26What did you mean by that?
14:27That fuels his fire.
14:28What did you mean by that?
14:30You watch the Notre Dame show on Showtime?
14:32They do the same kind of thing, like, hard knock style.
14:35Oh, they do?
14:35Yeah.
14:36Really?
14:36It's really good.
14:37I haven't seen it.
14:37How's Kelly come off in that?
14:39I don't like him.
14:39I don't like him.
14:40I still don't like him.
14:41I had a friend that's a huge Notre Dame fan, and he refers to him as the president of the Notre Dame
14:46football, and he loves how he comes across.
14:48I'm like, I'm sorry.
14:49He still comes across as a total jerk.
14:52I like some of the players.
14:53He's very smart.
14:54I follow them a lot closer.
14:55Players, absolutely.
14:55And I follow Notre Dame a lot closer this year than I ever have in my entire life.
14:59Because of the show.
14:59Because of the show.
15:00Yeah.
15:00They have good players.
15:01Fuller.
15:01Jalen Smith's a monster.
15:03The linebacker.
15:03They have a good player.
15:04They do the hell together.
15:05You know, the quarterback and all those injuries.
15:07They're still good.
15:09They're still good.
15:10They're going to make the playoffs.
15:11I still believe it.
15:12The defense is so good.
15:14Who are they going to represent?
15:16What do you mean?
15:16Which conference?
15:17Yeah.
15:17Oh, stop.
15:19The ACC.
15:21Oh, yeah.
15:21That's right.
15:21They're the ACC.
15:22That's right.
15:23Are they going to win the title this year?
15:24They haven't won the championship game yet.
15:26It's crazy.
15:27I think Atlantic Coast Conference.
15:28I think Notre Dame.
15:30Me too.
15:30Yeah.
15:31They're coming to Blacksburg in a couple years.
15:32Oh, yeah.
15:33Now, Mark, I know Saturdays are always revolving around Michigan.
15:36Saturday night's game might be moved.
15:38I hope it is.
15:39I hope it is.
15:40Hurricane Joaquin is coming to town.
15:41I hope it is moved.
15:42I hope they play the area.
15:44So they might move the game to noon.
15:46That could be a noon kick.
15:47Oh, please do it.
15:48Please.
15:48You don't want to see bad weather football?
15:50I love bad weather.
15:50No, we have to go to a hurricane.
15:52Tom, you know what you have to do Saturday.
15:55That's right.
15:55That's why I want to move to noon.
15:57Brandon's getting married Saturday.
15:58Yeah, but we'll watch it together there.
16:00I'm not watching it there.
16:01Of course.
16:02I did it to my sister.
16:02I could do it to Brandon.
16:03No, thanks.
16:06Well, I thought the hurricane wasn't supposed to land until Monday now.
16:10They're saying Big Ten officials are huddling up to figure out what to do by tomorrow.
16:14They'll know if it's a noon game or even move to Monday.
16:17Wow.
16:17They could have to move it.
16:18Cool.
16:18Please do it.
16:19Cross Talk brought to you by Autolab ER for your car.
16:23Did you RSVP yes to their wedding, even though Michigan's playing?
16:26Oh, yeah.
16:26I think Brandon's sick of hearing me bitch about it.
16:30Oh, okay.
16:30I didn't want to bring it up.
16:31No, I didn't bring it up all you want.
16:32Do you have BTN to go on your phone?
16:34I do.
16:35I'm not going to do that to him, though.
16:36I'll just to you.
16:36It's like the only sporting event I watch live.
16:39Like, you know me.
16:39I watch everything on DVR delayed because I hate commercials and I like to pause and rewind.
16:44Except for Michigan football, I have to watch it live.
16:47This is Brandon Downs last Wednesday as a single man.
16:52Is that a big event?
16:53Really?
16:54Yeah.
16:56It's a big event.