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00:05The guys will be in momentarily for said Crosstalk.
00:08I want to get you an update on a couple of things going on.
00:11Lions wide receiver Calvin Johnson, quarterback Matt Stafford,
00:14they are at the podium as they are every Wednesday.
00:18And Calvin Johnson, just reading some quotes from some of the Lions beat writers on the call.
00:25If I had to do it all over again, I'd probably have done the same thing.
00:28Where is this one here?
00:31Sorry about that.
00:33He didn't know the batted ball rule.
00:36And it's about details.
00:39Calvin Johnson said he thinks the league should focus on getting calls right,
00:42but not sure if all plays should be reviewed due to time.
00:46Anyway, he is talking about it.
00:53Okay, you can cut it off now.
00:56What happened to that?
00:58Yeah, he's Calvin Johnson.
01:01Yeah.
01:01I love it when you do that, by the way.
01:04What are you going to do, bitch me?
01:05Yeah.
01:06What are you going to do, bitch me?
01:07I'm Calvin Johnson.
01:08If I want to talk about this, I'm going to talk about this.
01:10Calvin Johnson said the NFL should make getting calls right a high priority.
01:17Was that so difficult?
01:18Yeah, right.
01:19Was that so difficult?
01:20Seriously.
01:20Was that so hard to say, yeah, they screwed up.
01:24We need to fix this thing.
01:25That's not that hard.
01:26Good for Calvin Johnson for speaking out today, despite the fact that, of course,
01:30Jim Caldwell asked his players not to say anything about it.
01:35It's all you need.
01:39And I don't understand.
01:40Right.
01:41Because we all saw it.
01:43Caldwell can stick his head in the sand all he wants.
01:46It's not going away.
01:47It's not going away.
01:48You can close your ears and I, I, I, I can't hear you.
01:51We're still going to keep asking that question and address it and move on.
01:56Because you know what?
01:57Tomorrow, nobody's going to ask Calvin about this.
02:00Because he's answered it.
02:01Got his thoughts already.
02:02He's answered it.
02:03We know how you feel.
02:05Pete Carroll.
02:06Pete, I didn't know it was a rule.
02:08I'm happy we won, but I didn't know.
02:10But Caldwell, no, I didn't talk about it.
02:13Nope, don't ask me.
02:14Don't ask me.
02:15Had a conversation, but you're not good enough to know that.
02:17You're not privileged enough to know what I'm talking about.
02:20Obviously.
02:21No, not obviously.
02:23No, we don't know.
02:24We don't know.
02:25And you'd like to know.
02:26But you know what?
02:27Drew had a thing.
02:28Lions fans.
02:29You don't demand anything.
02:30You don't.
02:31And you, the Lions don't demand anything and the fans don't demand anything.
02:35The one time fans demanded something, you actually got some change.
02:39The one time fans stopped going and started wearing all the orange, all of a sudden, change happened.
02:46And look what happened for Michigan Wolverines, right?
02:50Right.
02:50What did they do last year?
02:51They revolted.
02:52They stopped going to the game.
02:53Last year.
02:54And Dave Brandon was fired.
02:56And so was Brady Holtz.
02:57The 70,000, 110,000 fans that showed up every game.
03:01Right.
03:01About 70,000 people there.
03:03Another sellout at Michigan Stadium.
03:05Really?
03:06You see how he's in the seats?
03:06They did the Indiana game last year and they announced like 101,000 or 103,000.
03:11Just enough to be over 100,000.
03:13And the fans booed.
03:14Because they knew there weren't 100,000 people in that building.
03:17But you got changed.
03:18You got changed.
03:19Lions fans accept this for what it is.
03:22And you know what?
03:23We tried today.
03:24Tomorrow, we're just going to break down why this team is only for and why they're bad.
03:28We'll get more into the football team per se.
03:31I mean, we essentially, for what, three and a half hours of our show today, examined this awful press conference yesterday.
03:39And I just think, to sum up our thoughts today, Dees, it was a complete disservice that Jim Caldwell did to the Lions fans
03:49by not speaking out about his conversation with Dean Blandino over the league.
03:55I think the organization lost out on not speaking out against why this continues to happen to the Detroit Lions.
04:04Lions should demand more.
04:06The fans should demand more.
04:08Neither don't.
04:09Neither sit.
04:09Both sit there and get their lunch money taken every year by the NFL.
04:13It's not his job.
04:15It's not Jim Caldwell's job.
04:17Jim Caldwell's job is to get this team to win a football game.
04:20And I agree with some of the stuff you guys are saying.
04:26He's the only person speaking for the organization.
04:28And if your ownership is just like Yalavila.
04:31But you just said it.
04:32You just said it.
04:33He's the only one.
04:34So it's his fault fully.
04:36See, I think you guys are letting Mayhew and LaJuan and all them off the hook.
04:40Not at all.
04:40I've said it all day.
04:42I've decided, you know what, I'm late today.
04:44It's 11.57.
04:45I was finishing up this statement.
04:48Because if they're not going to do it, screw it.
04:51I'm doing it.
04:52I wrote a statement for them.
04:54So at 12.15, I'll have it.
04:57The official statement?
04:58The official statement that the Lions should put out and release to the media.
05:03And what is the media's job?
05:05We're the conduit to the fans.
05:07I'm a we, per se.
05:09Well, we are a media.
05:10Don't give Dave a yell at me if I don't say we are.
05:12We are.
05:14Dave Shore is my guy.
05:15Well, you know what?
05:15And you have the credibility because your name was mentioned on Monday Night Football.
05:18Here we go.
05:19Again with that.
05:20Yeah.
05:21There's an old bit.
05:23That bit will never get old because it happened, folks.
05:25What is a bit?
05:26It happened.
05:27I don't know what a bit is.
05:28One of my favorite bits is Ryan not knowing what a bit is.
05:31I don't know what a bit is.
05:32So make sure you're listening.
05:34I know of segments, topics, skits.
05:38Bits.
05:39And bits.
05:40The hell's a bit?
05:41I'm not doing that again.
05:42No.
05:42Make sure you're listening at 12.15 when Derry gives his...
05:45What the Lions should say, his official press release.
05:47I wrote it for them.
05:48I wrote it for them.
05:49Because you know what?
05:50Jim Caldwell, I'm going to defend the Reverend.
05:52I'm going to defend the Reverend.
05:53Look, I think you're wrong with that.
05:55I'm sorry.
05:56I'm not trying to argue with you.
05:57No, let's argue.
05:58I'm not trying to get in a fight with you, even though I'd win.
06:02But listen.
06:03Look.
06:04Jim Caldwell, it's his responsibility to get this team focused on Arizona.
06:10Yes.
06:10Of course.
06:11But on a Tuesday press conference when there's nobody in the building, unless you're getting
06:14treatment or working out or whatever, you don't set the game plan on Tuesday.
06:18Your players are not getting ready on Tuesday.
06:20It's their off day.
06:21Okay.
06:21But when Jim Schwartz was running this team and bitching up the storm and fist pumping,
06:27everyone went, oh God, look at this, you know, hijinks and hilarity that's taking place
06:32from the sideline.
06:32His players were bad.
06:34Okay, but let's call a spade a spade here.
06:36Caldwell inherited a lot of Schwartz's players and got a lot more out of them in his first
06:41year than Schwartz did in the previous three or four.
06:44Am I wrong?
06:45I don't know.
06:46You're asking Jim Caldwell to ask.
06:48I don't know.
06:48They had a historically great defense last year.
06:51I think they wasted it.
06:52I'm just reading this.
06:54Calvin Johnson on the disrespect from the league and it sucks, but that's just the way it
06:59is.
07:00What about a men's league?
07:01That says it all.
07:03Right there.
07:04That's the attitude.
07:04That's because he's being told by Jim Caldwell not to say anything and to take the high road.
07:09That is where somebody from the top needs to step in and say, you know what keeps happening
07:13if you take the high road, you eventually fall off the cliff.
07:15I don't disagree that you guys were taking a beating here in Detroit.
07:18The Schefter comments are right.
07:21But Caldwell has these guys on a string in a consistent basis saying, hey, let's focus
07:27on what we can control.
07:28Hey, man.
07:29You and Rico brought up a very good point earlier.
07:31And then WMGC FM HD1 Detroit is being at the top of the hour again.
07:34What did Rico say earlier?
07:36Jerry Jones bites that bullet, sits on that sword a lot for his team.
07:41And then Jason Garrett can focus on football.
07:44We don't have a Jerry Jones here.
07:45I am going to be that at 1215 and give you the statement that Martin can read if he wants
07:50to.
07:51Martin!
07:53You know, he can if he wants.
07:54Dude, you got problems.
07:56Of course I do.
07:57I didn't see that coming.
07:59Now that was funny.
08:00But seriously, did you not say that earlier in the show?
08:04He did.
08:05Robert Kraft does the same thing.
08:07All the Tom Brady stuff was going out, Belichick didn't address any of it.
08:12Robert Kraft stepped up and said, guys, I'm talking about this one time and one time only.
08:18Get your recorders rolling because after this, I'm done.
08:22Right.
08:22I would love for Martha.
08:24I know Martha doesn't talk much.
08:26Actually, I never heard her speak.
08:27Here's the problem with that.
08:29If you don't have anybody in your organization, and Tom LeJuan has been forced into being the
08:34mouthpiece for the organization.
08:35Tom's good at it.
08:36Tom, nine times out of ten, would come on the show.
08:38Tom's good at it.
08:39He's at the owner's meeting right now.
08:41We just got word.
08:41The lines did get back to us because I did request Tom LeJuan today.
08:44You should.
08:45He is at the owner's meetings.
08:48We're going to try to do it tomorrow or the next day.
08:50But until I firm that up, I don't want to put anything out there.
08:53Now, the difference is, if you are Jim Caldwell and you know that your owner isn't going to
08:59say anything, that your general manager isn't going to say anything, that your president
09:03isn't capable of saying anything because he's at the owner's meetings, you have to take it
09:08upon yourself at that point, in my opinion, to be the spokesman for the organization, to
09:13be the spokesman for your team, to not be pushed around any longer.
09:17Because, under Jim Caldwell's regime alone, the two biggest football games that this team
09:23has played, they've lost, and they've lost on blown calls.
09:27Correct.
09:27And do I, would I have loved to have seen Jim get mad at that time, Ryan, and throw a
09:32headset and run on the field?
09:33But he didn't know the rules.
09:35Yes.
09:36Yes.
09:36Caldwell is guilty.
09:38He's not, I'm not saying his hands are clean here.
09:40I don't know what you're trying to do.
09:41What I'm saying is, you are really harping on yesterday's presence.
09:46Yes.
09:46I think Caldwell got back from Seattle and said, okay, I've got to focus now on a short
09:50week because it's Tuesday, or Tuesday, as some people say in this market.
09:54Tuesday, Monday.
09:55Tuesday.
09:56I've got to get our team ready for Arizona and getting a win.
09:59Do it on Wednesday when they show up to the facility.
10:01No, no, no.
10:02Yeah, yeah, yeah.
10:03But I will say, I thought Monday night, should he have run out onto the field and slammed
10:08his headset down and said, we're not running another play until you figure this out?
10:10Yes.
10:11He made a mistake there.
10:12The reason why he didn't come out yesterday, I think Rico hit the nail on the head.
10:16The reason why he didn't want to talk about it yesterday, because he doesn't want people
10:20to know that he did not know the rule.
10:23Could be.
10:24That's why.
10:25And he tried, I'm not talking about, I'm not talking about.
10:27He didn't know the rule, and he didn't want to let on to the fact that he didn't know
10:32the rule, and that's fine.
10:34I don't get it how you can't have anybody upstairs not know the rule.
10:39I don't know how the officials can't know the rule.
10:41But the reason.
10:42But you can't keep acting like you didn't.
10:43Right.
10:43But the reason why Bill Belichick always cheats is because he knows all the rules.
10:48He knows the rules.
10:48And he knows how to go to the gray.
10:50Bill Belichick's the best there is.
10:50He knows the gray areas.
10:51Bill Belichick's the best there is.
10:53He knows how to walk in the shadows.
10:54He knows the gray areas, because he knows all the rules.
10:57But sitting here and trying to compare Jim Caldwell and Bill Belichick isn't fair to Jim Caldwell
11:00either, because Bill Belichick's in a class by himself.
11:04He does know the rules.
11:04They both co-starry if I demand a little bit more.
11:07I think you should demand a little bit more.
11:09Hey, hey, hey.
11:09When I say that about a certain quarterback, I get ripped apart.
11:13Well, fuck.
11:14I think they should need to win a football game.
11:16When I say that about a certain quarterback in this town, I get ripped apart.
11:19There's no Matthew bashing today.
11:21Well, it will be tomorrow.
11:22I'm not talking to you anymore.
11:23It will be tomorrow.
11:24By the way, let's get into something that's much more important.
11:27Okay, this cider mill issue, did I hear you say, Ryan, you don't like cider or donuts?
11:33What's wrong with you?
11:33No, I don't.
11:34What's the matter with you?
11:35I'm un-American.
11:36What?
11:38No donuts at all?
11:39I don't like donuts.
11:40I'd rather like an entree, like a full meal, instead of a couple of donuts.
11:45Okay, but if I brought in some Timbits from Jim Horton, you would.
11:49And you'd like them?
11:50Well, those are donuts.
11:50You do know they are donuts.
11:51Yes, I would eat them and I would like them, but to go get donuts at a cider mill is something
11:58I would never do.
11:59You know?
12:00So, if it's handed to you, you'll eat it.
12:02Yes.
12:02But you're not going out of your way to get it.
12:04Correct.
12:04Okay, I'm like that with ice cream, so.
12:06Yeah, well, ice cream, I got a problem.
12:08I'm like that with ice cream.
12:09Yeah, ice cream, I'll drive four hours to that.
12:11I'm not going to ice cream.
12:12But you better sack up.
12:14I don't know if you're having more kids, and that's your business.
12:16We'd like to.
12:17You have a daughter.
12:18Yes.
12:18Eventually, you're going to be taking the family to...
12:20We're going on Saturday.
12:22To the petting zoo.
12:22Where are you going?
12:24Hold on, Nicole texted me last night.
12:26Which one are you going to?
12:26Let me tell you.
12:27All right.
12:27Yeah, he thought he would have known which one I'm going to.
12:30He's blowing off Michigan homecoming.
12:31Because I'm an expert on this stuff.
12:33All right.
12:33Well, Dave said it's just crushed apples.
12:36I heard Dave earlier.
12:38It's just crushed apples!
12:39I've got crushed apples!
12:42That impersonation.
12:43Here you go.
12:44Here's the text message from my wife last night.
12:46Nikki?
12:47Did anybody call her Nikki?
12:48No, but I have before.
12:50Okay.
12:518.33 p.m.
12:53Honey, can we maybe take Liddy to the orchard this weekend?
12:56I really want to go.
12:57Great.
12:59Sounds good.
13:00All right.
13:00There's a petting zoo and kids' hayride, et cetera.
13:04Maybe Saturday morning after the nap.
13:06We could take Robbie and Sadie, too.
13:08Might need some nap.
13:08Okay.
13:09Are we talking Westview?
13:10I don't know.
13:11Oh, you don't know?
13:12Where's the orchard?
13:13I know all the...
13:13Westview has a pet...
13:14I know they have the petting zoo and the animals.
13:16I don't know about a hayride, but that's up in Romeo.
13:20Okay.
13:20So, it looks like I'm going...
13:22Westview's good.
13:23Solid.
13:24Solid.
13:25You can go to Blake's.
13:26Wonderful.
13:28Well, let's see.
13:28Yates is too far for me.
13:30I actually stopped off at Franklin yesterday.
13:32Okay.
13:33Yeah, Franklin's not bad.
13:33I had to pick up some stuff.
13:35Jarvie did a good job.
13:36Franklin doesn't have much other than cider and doughnuts.
13:38Correct.
13:39Right.
13:39And Yates.
13:40No, they actually got like a bunch of stuff out there, like sausages and cheeses.
13:45They got sausage there?
13:47Yeah.
13:47Meat?
13:48Yeah.
13:48Mm-hmm.
13:50Hey, tell Mavs we said hello, Deez.
13:52He's busy.
13:53I know he is, and that's great.
13:54He's been great for us.
13:55I'm not saying anything.
13:56He's doing a lot.
13:57I'm not calling him out for not being in here.
13:58I'm just saying...
13:58Are you anchoring again, Deez?
13:59Say hello.
14:00Yes, I am.
14:01Where's Miller all his time alone?
14:03Is he still in Seattle?
14:04Oh, he's in Seattle on Monday.
14:06Flew home, you know, got in at 6 in the morning on Tuesday.
14:10Then he has to tape the coach or coach's show on Tuesday.
14:14So that was that.
14:14And today I think he's just taking a day off.
14:17Got it.
14:18All right.
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14:23Maz is huge, man.
14:24He's the one that's helping me try to get the lawn stuff.
14:27No, it'd be great.
14:28I think, Tom, coming on your show.
14:29Well, look, we've had him on.
14:30You've had him on.
14:32Go for it.
14:33I don't see any issue with it.
14:35I really...
14:35Don't you see my point, though?
14:38I do understand your point, but somebody's got to.
14:41Yes.
14:42Somebody's got to.
14:43You're getting bullied.
14:44That's what it looks like.
14:45The league, Goodell, bullies you, and you take it.
14:47Hey, like Chuck at the gas station said to me this morning.
14:50As you stopped for your water and coffee, I was listening.
14:52Every morning.
14:53Wow.
14:53Somebody say something.
14:55I don't care who it is.
14:57And if the only person that's talking right now is Jim Caldwell, you know who I'm going to blast?
15:03Jim Caldwell.
15:04Have a nice day.
15:06There they are.
15:07Ryan and Rico.
15:07Oh, you're a member.