The Jeremy Kyle Show 1st March 2018
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00:10On today's show...
00:12He told you that Ian and Sam were over, so you set him up with your mate Tasha, and then you discovered it was all rubbish.
00:16You were kicking your gobs, you're up to...
00:18Shut up! Don't talk to her like that!
00:20All right, one way to wait!
00:23You were not allowed to say no when you wanted to come and live with me, weren't you two people?
00:28Clean up! Shut the mic, man!
00:31My girlfriend's cheated on me with two different women. I'm slightly confused.
00:36She's also admitted to sexual contact with a woman.
00:38Yeah, last night.
00:39What?
00:40You've admitted this at the last minute, and you're sort of in wonderment that all of us are thinking she's a lie in there.
00:46Well, you've got all set.
00:50She's spent all morning saying to us that she wants you to do a lie detector because she doesn't trust you.
00:55What?
00:55Anyway...
00:55And he's refusing to do a lie detector.
00:58I do want to come back at the end of the show.
01:01So we asked Samantha, during your relationship with Jack, other than what you've admitted to, have you kissed anyone else during your relationship?
01:07You said no. Why don't you say no?
01:08Because I wasn't.
01:08So we asked him to do a lie detector.
01:20CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
01:22CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
01:24CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
01:30Good morning and a big, big welcome to the show.
01:32My first guest today, Lisa, is here to out her brother
01:35as a lying, cheating scumbag.
01:37That's what she says.
01:38She says that she set her brother Andy up
01:40with her best mate just two weeks ago
01:42as he was adamant he'd split from his previous girlfriend
01:45only to discover that he'd lied.
01:47Lisa says that when she proves that he's been playing
01:49the rails off against each other,
01:50she hopes they're both dumping for good.
01:52She says he's a waste of space.
01:54Lisa is on the Jeremy Kyle Show that way.
02:05You look very shy. What's the matter?
02:06I thought you were very loud, Lisa.
02:07I was a bit nervous.
02:08Nah, you'll be fine. Welcome to the show.
02:10Let's just lay out the people who are in this story.
02:12Andy's your brother. You're 19, he's 37.
02:14He's been in a relationship for quite a long time with Sam.
02:17He told you that he and Sam were over,
02:19so you set him up with your mate Tasha.
02:20Then you discovered it was all rubbish.
02:22Yeah.
02:23Talk to me, Lise.
02:24Basically, they both wanted to settle down and be happy,
02:26so I rang him one day and I said,
02:28I've got someone for you. Are you single?
02:30He goes, Jeremy and Sam split last night.
02:32How long was he with Sam for?
02:33They got back together in November.
02:35I don't know. I don't even know when they spoke.
02:37You're not a Sam fan, so you were...
02:39We used to be close, I won't go lie.
02:40We did used to be close,
02:41but then she started calling my mate Tasha.
02:43So I don't want to know her mate.
02:45Brilliant.
02:46She's a man.
02:47She's a man.
02:48And so is he.
02:49I don't know what that is.
02:50She's a .
02:51Oh, no.
02:52Brilliant.
02:53So, you, you, you thought...
02:55I'm doing my...
02:56What was the state of him?
02:57Who are you?
02:58You and Keith, I'm sure.
02:59Shut the f*** up. Don't talk to her like that.
03:01Yeah, I'll talk to her like one like twice.
03:02What an idiot!
03:03So, hold on a minute.
03:04He's going out with Sam.
03:06You didn't like Sam.
03:07He said, I'm over with Sam.
03:09So you set him up with Tasha.
03:10Why would you set out with your mate,
03:12somebody you don't like, your brother, for a question?
03:15This time I did like him, yeah.
03:16Look, and he apparently don't know her.
03:18He apparently's never met her.
03:19Who's that?
03:20That's Tasha, my best mate.
03:22And he's denying that he's a...
03:23What?
03:24People love this picture.
03:25I met her once in Bradford.
03:27Yeah, you're Bradford.
03:28She's f***ing in your mouth.
03:29Why are you here today?
03:31Because I want him to stay away from my friend,
03:32and I want her to prove she's pregnant,
03:34because they're telling me and my family she's pregnant.
03:36Who is?
03:37Sam?
03:38But are they back together then?
03:39So he never...
03:40Really?
03:41But I don't know if he's telling me and my family they're not together.
03:42So he never left her?
03:44He f***ing in your mouth.
03:45No, shut your mouth.
03:46F***ing in your mouth.
03:47Shut your mouth.
03:48Shut your mouth.
03:49Shut your mouth.
03:51Shut your mouth.
03:52Move yourself.
03:53Move yourself.
03:54Move yourself.
03:55Move yourself.
03:56Oh, you're doing s***ing move.
03:57You can show up as well.
03:58You can show up as well.
03:59You can show up as well.
04:00You can show up as well.
04:01She's a lovely, happy family.
04:03So that was Sam, his missus.
04:04Is he back with her?
04:05Yeah.
04:06So he's saying what?
04:07You made this up to stir trouble.
04:08He says that you're making this whole thing up because she doesn't like Sam.
04:13She's sick of...
04:14They are sick of you causing trouble.
04:16They say you and your sister are just out to ruin them.
04:19He's never, ever, ever been with Tasha.
04:21Me and her don't even talk anymore.
04:22So that's where he's talking.
04:23Who doesn't talk?
04:24Me and her.
04:25Why don't you two talk?
04:26Yeah, we had a fallout at a family funeral.
04:28So like, I'm not having all to...
04:29I don't want...
04:30I don't want to do with any of them all by once.
04:32We don't have all to do with each other.
04:33Sam is his girlfriend.
04:34Let's let's change this run.
04:35Let's get Sam on the Jeremy Kyle show that way.
04:46You remember that when you wanted to come and stay with me though, didn't you?
04:48I don't want to stay with me.
04:49Yeah.
04:50Yeah, that's when you were with him when he told me it all were you.
04:52But he left, you know, I remember it.
04:53So when you see this thing, come on.
04:55Can somebody help me out?
04:57Wait, Sam.
04:58Oi.
04:59Are you with, uh, Andy?
05:01Yeah.
05:02Did you split up with Andy?
05:04We split up, but we got back together.
05:05But he went out with Tasha?
05:07Uh, for a day.
05:08So he did.
05:09Not a day, mate.
05:10You're a winner on the third and not a January cause I've been my uncle down.
05:13I've got the messages in your muppet.
05:15Yeah, you've got...
05:16Fuck you, mate.
05:17Shut your mouth.
05:18You're a f*** man.
05:19Really?
05:20So what is the beefy?
05:22You're saying that she is deliberately trying to break you and Andy up?
05:26Well, first glance, Karen and his sister...
05:27Stop saying basically and answer the question.
05:29Karen and his sister's making out that he's cheated.
05:31So we'll come on here to find out if he has.
05:33So all I need to put the screenshots on his last Jezza status and you was like,
05:37Oh, I already know about it.
05:38I already know about it.
05:39Next name.
05:40Next name.
05:41I'm getting a phone call.
05:42Are you Sarah?
05:43Have you heard that Andy's cheating on Sarah?
05:44I was like, yeah.
05:45I'm the one that told her.
05:46Oh, well, apparently she didn't know about him.
05:47You all need to...
05:48But you admit...
05:49Oi, oi, wait, wait.
05:50If he hasn't cheated on you, why is he only apparently to prove his love to you and prove
05:55that nothing's happened with Tash?
05:57Why has he only done the test since November, sweetheart?
06:00Why doesn't he do it?
06:01Because I only got told by his...
06:03So from November, before November, you trust him completely.
06:07Yeah.
06:08But you don't trust him since November because these two have been stirring the pot.
06:12Do you know what?
06:13I don't even know why she sat there.
06:14You're coming on the stage in a minute.
06:15Woo!
06:16Right, yeah, alright.
06:17So these two are stirring the pot because they don't want you happy.
06:20And today, give me that camera.
06:22He's doing a test to say, we're happy.
06:24I've done nothing wrong.
06:25You two jog on, yeah?
06:26Yeah.
06:27I don't really get it, but we're back after the break.
06:29Don't go anywhere.
06:30Do you want me to tell her?
06:31Do you want me to tell her?
06:32Do you want me to tell her?
06:33Do you want me to tell her?
06:34Do you want me to tell her?
06:35Do you want me to tell her?
06:37Do you want me to tell her my mom's on...
06:38Stop the spri...
06:50Name of 명, before the break we had Lisa and Sam.
06:53Why is the truth here mate?
06:55Why is going on?
06:56Why are you sticking your nose in to your brother's business and this is the bit I don't hear...
06:59Because I hurt my best friend.
07:01If you don't like this bloke right?
07:03Why would you fix him up, hear me out with a mate, because surely then, you are right to be accused of just trying to stir the pot.
07:09Why wouldn't you stay out of his business if you hate him so much?
07:12At the time we were close!
07:14Can't hear you, what?
07:16At the time we were close, and I was just wanting him off to be happy.
07:20So you're saying he took advantage of your mate, lied to her, she says you need to both wise up, you and Tash, and dump him.
07:31And he's on the Jeremy Karl Show that way!
07:33CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
07:40That was a joke!
07:41You're a joke mate, so I can break your chin mate, shut your mouth!
07:43Yeah, so I'm on me, I've put a lie detector to say that I ain't slow with anybody else.
07:47How did I sleep with that?
07:48You were a man once in Bradford, went to museum, with her three kids!
07:53Shut your mouth!
07:54How did that, did that, did that, did that, did that, in front of her three kids?
07:56Come on, do you want me to tell her why you got back a bit?
07:58Do you want me to tell her?
07:59Come on, tell her, that's why I told her!
08:01Shut your mouth!
08:02You got back a bit!
08:03Run it, man!
08:04You told me!
08:05You told me your mum was on shut the ****!
08:07See, look, look!
08:08See, look, look!
08:09I knew it, yeah!
08:10I knew it!
08:11You done mupp it, mate!
08:12Shut your mouth!
08:13Shoot your mouth, mate!
08:14You need to go get tested, you!
08:16We've got a clap or something, you can't!
08:18What's over, what's over one anyway?
08:20What?
08:21Come on!
08:22Come on, run your mouth!
08:23Run your mouth, you wanna be here!
08:24Come on, you wanna be here!
08:26You just...
08:27Yeah, look at you, look at you, it's there, yeah!
08:28You know what I mean?
08:29You know what I mean?
08:30You know what I mean?
08:31You're from Adam's family, you're still in the car!
08:32You're all like some next level crackhead, you might have passed your drugs test!
08:35I was here last week!
08:37Yeah!
08:38Where is it?
08:39Where is it?
08:40Where is it?
08:41Where is it?
08:42Where is it?
08:43Two negative tests!
08:44I bet you'd fail on it!
08:45I bet you'd fail on it because you won today!
08:46I bet they won!
08:47He did, to be fair, I know, he did pass both drugs tests, he was completely clear!
08:50She says that, you said to her, I'm single, fix me up with somebody...
08:53I wasn't single, we were having difficulties.
08:55So this Tash...
08:56Right?
08:57And I will admit, I was chatting to Tash, and I also met her in Bradford one day, with her three young kids!
09:02Does Sam know this?
09:03Yeah, Sam knows this!
09:04So why don't you tell Sam that I'm letting you in Bradford one day?
09:07Why don't you keep your nose out and let him live his own?
09:09I don't know!
09:15Have you ever cheated on Sam?
09:17Yes.
09:18Kind of...
09:19I...
09:20We went out...
09:21We went out one night, right, we had an argument, and I went off with a...
09:27I slated with her, mistakenly...
09:30And where is Sam?
09:31Is she back?
09:32Er, Sam, come here, darling, please!
09:33Is she going out to sleep with this Tash?
09:34Does she know that?
09:35Sam, can you come out here, please?
09:36Sam!
09:37God, alive!
09:38I spend my life running around!
09:42Think about what this poor girl's going through!
09:45Did you know all of this?
09:46I didn't know you got back with me to...
09:50You didn't know what?
09:51Andy, come here quietly!
09:52Nobody else!
09:53Come here!
09:54He's just admitted that he cheated on you.
09:55You say you didn't know that?
09:56Don't sit there and lie!
09:57You know about...
09:58I know about...
09:59That's the one I'm on about!
10:00I know about...
10:01That's the one I'm on about!
10:02I know about that one you told me!
10:03Yeah, that's the one I'm on about!
10:04That's what I'm on about!
10:05It's what I used to say when I said about me when I got back with me just for a...
10:18You know what?
10:19You ain't gonna believe her?
10:20She's saying that...
10:21No one!
10:22She's saying that...
10:23And you know clearly that I didn't!
10:25He showed me every single text, so I've seen it all, so I don't know why they want to come on here just to prove a point!
10:30Why do you think they're out to do this?
10:32Unless, of course...
10:33It's quite trouble because they're jealous, Carly!
10:35They don't want him to be happy!
10:36So why are you fleeing the studio in tears?
10:39You should be sitting next to your man saying I know he's gonna pass the test again and we'll nail this once and for all!
10:44No!
10:45Anything you haven't told her?
10:47No!
10:48Sorry, I'm really confused by this, right?
10:50Is Tasha here?
10:51No, she's fine!
10:52Right, everybody out!
10:53We're gonna do this!
10:54And this is your mate!
10:55This is your mate!
10:56This is your mate!
10:57Right, Tasha's on the Jeremy Kyle show!
10:59That way!
11:00Where's Tasha?
11:01Oh, right!
11:02Eventually!
11:03It's not 50 quid that you took out of my kid's mouth!
11:04Don't even lie!
11:05Not lying, no?
11:06Yeah, you are lying!
11:07Coming out of my bank!
11:08I put it in my bank!
11:09I told Sam I'd put it in her bank!
11:10What did he promise you, Tash?
11:11Welcome to the show!
11:12Thank you!
11:13Nice to meet you, by the way!
11:14Fantastic!
11:15What did he promise you, if anything?
11:16What happened?
11:17Talk to me, tell me, please!
11:18He took me to the museum, promising everything!
11:19Wanted to marry me a lot!
11:20Wanted to marry you?
11:21I told you!
11:22I told you!
11:23I told you!
11:24I told you!
11:25I told you!
11:26I told you!
11:27I told you!
11:28I told you!
11:29I told you!
11:30I told you!
11:31I told you!
11:32I told you!
11:33I told you!
11:34I told you!
11:35I told you!
11:36Oh, yeah, that's the thing!
11:37Oh, Patriot!
11:38Did I pay a penny?
11:39What's this thing?
11:40When he's been with my child!
11:41I don't want to take my child!
11:42I don't want to take my child!
11:43I don't want to take my child!
11:44You take my child, man!
11:45You know about it!
11:46She said, on a brilliant day, best bit was Andy jumping straight in the water!
11:48He was soaked!
11:49Blessing me!
11:50He was in stitches!
11:51Andy loved it!
11:52Ha ha!
11:53Especially seeing the girls laugh and giggle!
11:54Well, that's not him promising marriage, is it?
11:56Tell me how it happened!
11:57So his sister who hates him!
11:59Oh, here we go!
12:00Love you babe!
12:01Why would you put love you babe?
12:02There he is!
12:03I'll just put it!
12:04Conversation!
12:05Floor it!
12:06Floor it!
12:07Floor it!
12:08And you knew about it!
12:09But you're with Sam!
12:10Why would you say you love you babe to someone else?
12:12How does that make you feel, Sam?
12:13We're having difficulties at the end of the day!
12:15I've seen these messages you sent!
12:17Apparently, according to you, you came home and said to Andrew that for him to move
12:22in with you and for you to take on my child!
12:25Do you honestly think you're going to take my child?
12:27No!
12:28I said!
12:29Did anything happen with you and Andrew?
12:30I don't think so!
12:31No!
12:32It kissed me goodbye and that were it!
12:33And I said it was only a kiss, but none of these are listening to me eyes!
12:36But you all put me on here to say I'm cheating!
12:38I asked you!
12:39No!
12:40She didn't!
12:41She didn't!
12:42You were all trying to say that I'm cheating!
12:44We got the phone call!
12:45I'm cheating!
12:46Andy admitted to having a what?
12:47Shut up!
12:48Shut up!
12:49Hello?
12:50Andy's admitted to having a one night stand with another woman in November whilst he was
12:54with Sam, but you knew this, yes?
12:56The questions were, since you restarted your relationship with Sam in November, have you
13:00had sexual intercourse with anybody else?
13:02This would include her.
13:03You said no!
13:04He was telling the truth!
13:05You said no!
13:06He was telling the truth!
13:07Since you restarted your relationship with Sam in November, have you had sexual intercourse with
13:12anybody else?
13:13No!
13:14Since you restarted your relationship with Sam in November, have you had sexual contact?
13:16No!
13:17He was telling the truth!
13:18Since you restarted your relationship with Sam in November, have you passionately kissed
13:20anyone else?
13:21He said no!
13:22He passed the test completely!
13:23And that's what he called!
13:24Fuller!
13:25So...
13:26So...
13:27So...
13:28I'm gonna do it!
13:29I'm gonna do it!
13:30This is the bit I don't get!
13:33I am!
13:34Be quiet!
13:35Let me do this!
13:36Sit down!
13:37You're accused of being a druggie!
13:38He's not!
13:39A woman who says you don't like him, says he's taken advantage in front of him to a museum
13:44with her, right?
13:45And the guy's passed that!
13:46Why don't you just get on with your own life and let those two get on with this?
13:49I'm being simple, huh?
13:51I'm being simple, huh?
13:52What?
13:53Don't come back to my house, man!
13:56No!
13:57You want me?
13:58Don't come back to my house, man!
13:59Don't come back to my house, man!
14:00Move!
14:01Move!
14:02Move!
14:03You said no!
14:04You're a...
14:05You're a...
14:06You're a stupid little...
14:07Move!
14:08What are you gonna do?
14:09What are you gonna do?
14:10Why don't you keep shouting move at people?
14:11Why don't you make this up and you've got no way?
14:13Why don't you move off the stage?
14:15Why don't you go?
14:16No, I'm gone, mate!
14:17You've got no way!
14:18You've got no way!
14:19You've got no way!
14:20You've got no way!
14:21You've got no way!
14:22You've got no way!
14:23You've got no way!
14:24Bye!
14:25Bye!
14:26He's come here twice, he's had everything thrown, and he's telling the truth.
14:32This is what I don't get about today, right?
14:34If she thought he was such a lowlife piece of rubbish, why...
14:37Yeah, I don't...
14:38I don't know why...
14:39I've got to be honest, why would she introduce him to her mate?
14:43Shall I tell you why I think?
14:44Go on.
14:45So she could stir it and try and cause trouble between these two.
14:48I wouldn't go down that path.
14:50I'm not saying he's the Archangel Gabriel, but I do believe this bloke is not what everybody
14:55says he is, and he's trying to...
14:56He used to be.
14:57He's trying to make changes.
14:58He used to be.
14:59He used to be.
15:00He used to be.
15:01He used to be is not now.
15:02You say you watch...
15:03This is about people changing their lives, and I believe this guy has changed his life.
15:05He's trying.
15:06And I believe if you're the person I think you are, you ought to start recognising that and
15:10start following that.
15:11I don't talk to him, I don't talk to him, I don't talk to him, I don't talk to him, don't talk to either of them
15:16You've been told in your life, you've, you've, yeah, and you've changed haven't you
15:20Yeah, of course I did, I've changed all the time
15:22Because he's an addictive personality, that's what he says, so he won't be long until he's on something else
15:27I know he's been doing me a favour
15:28I know you never chose jokes
15:29I know, I do and I know
15:31Well, do
15:31So what, yeah, I smoke weed, so I work weed
15:34Can I ask you, can I ask, hello
15:36I work my off every day
15:39Can I ask you, can I ask you something
15:41No matter what, I don't want anything to do with any of them, I don't
15:53Well, as I've always said about this show, that's a good way to leave it
15:57You two are together, she's happy, you're on call, yeah
16:00Well, why don't you go that way, you two go that way, it's the end of the bit, thank you very much
16:04Good luck to them, right, my next guest today
16:11Jack is here for make or break DNA and lie detector results with his partner of three years, Samantha
16:15Now, Jack says that only last night she confessed to having sexual contact with a woman
16:19While another man watched, and he's desperate for answers, I would be as well
16:23He says he started to have doubts if he's even the father to their eight-month-old son and says that he is
16:27Genuinely prepared to walk away for good, unless he gets the truth, so big day for this guy
16:32Jack is on the Jeremy Carr show that way
16:34Alright son, take a seat, you alright?
16:44Yeah, not too bad
16:45My girlfriend's cheated on me with two different women, I'm slightly confused, let's talk about you, because I get very confused, I'm 52
16:50Samantha's 23, you're 27, how long you been together?
16:54About two and a half years
16:55Living together, obviously
16:56Living together for about a year
16:57By anybody's standards, there's been doubts for quite a long time, on your side, what are they based upon?
17:03Well, it's, there were some pictures online
17:06Of what?
17:07There were pictures of her with her and her friend who went out for a night out
17:10Yeah
17:10And there were pictures that they were basically with two blokes and she didn't say nothing about it
17:14What did you say with two blokes, at a bar or naked, being straddled somewhere?
17:17Sorry, in a bar, arm round them, almost like they've met up
17:20Right
17:20You know what I mean?
17:20And obviously, when she went out on this night out, I didn't hear from her for two days
17:24So it was like, right, you know
17:26Two days?
17:27Yeah, yeah
17:27Went out at seven o'clock and came back on Sunday, how does that work?
17:30Went out on the Friday and it's like, oh, I'm hanging
17:31Couldn't hear from her Saturday
17:32Sunday's the exact same, didn't hear nothing from her
17:34So that started it, you say she denies cheating but she goes the night out, she's just pictures with the men
17:38She's had men stay at her house when you haven't been there, apparently
17:42Yeah, I found out three weeks, and she was pregnant for three weeks, maybe four weeks
17:47And a bloke in work had turned around and said to me, I've, erm, are you with Samantha?
17:52And I was like, yeah, yeah, I'm with her, yeah
17:53What are you on about? I think she's mentioned you, you know, she's with you before
17:56And you go, well, I was with her a few months ago
17:58I was like, you're with her a few months ago?
18:00And I was, I was with her a year, how could you be with her a few months ago?
18:01Isn't there some sort of, isn't there some sort of confusion?
18:04Doesn't she say that you were on a break for a while or something?
18:06Yeah, she made up, as when I confronted her about it, she made up
18:09And said that she was on a break
18:11And I was like, well
18:12Do you love this woman?
18:13Well, yeah
18:13How old's the child?
18:15Nine months
18:16You've now got major doubts
18:17You say that Jack and you look nothing alike
18:19You've doubts that you're really his father
18:21So all of this is causing you great upset
18:23Obviously, I'm going to say this with a straight face
18:26She's also admitted to sexual contact with a woman
18:29Yeah, last night
18:30What?
18:31She had sexual contact with a woman last night?
18:34No, admitted to it last night
18:35Before she came here to do the lie detector
18:38I said to her, right
18:39I've watched your show before
18:40Thank you very much indeed
18:41Give him a round of applause
18:42And I just turned around and said
18:48Look, people get their point across the night before
18:50You don't want to make me look stupid, do you?
18:51So I was like, if there's anything, let me know now
18:53And at least tomorrow we can be somewhere
18:54And she didn't say nothing
18:56She went and got a glass of wine
18:58And got me a bottle of beer or whatever
18:59We've drunk it
19:00Then she's gone
19:01Go and get me another one
19:01I've got her
19:02And then she's drunk that
19:03Went into the bathroom
19:04Hid
19:04And then sent a text message
19:06Hid in the bathroom?
19:06Hid in the bathroom
19:07Locked the door
19:07Sent a text message going
19:08Oh, all that stuff about the women
19:10That was true
19:10What did she admit to?
19:15Erm, just sexual acts
19:18With another woman
19:19What?
19:20What?
19:22But apparently the story goes
19:24And I'm not
19:25Listen, I'm merely the voice of reason
19:28But I'm going to ask men this
19:30Well, Steve
19:31Apparently
19:32You were there
19:34And she kissed this woman quite passionately
19:37And then you fell asleep
19:38Well, it wasn't
19:40How many boys?
19:41I'm just being honest
19:42I'm not making a predicament
19:44Let's do the crew
19:45How many boys in the crew
19:47If their woman was kissing a woman
19:49Would fall asleep
19:50Put their hand in the air?
19:52How many boys in the crew
19:53If that was happening
19:54Would make sure they damn well stayed awake all night
19:57Put your hands in the air?
19:59Steve!
20:00Hold on a minute
20:01What?
20:01Come on
20:02You can't
20:02What would you do?
20:05Would you stay awake or fall asleep?
20:07Stay awake
20:07Good lad
20:08Put your hand up
20:08Put your hand up
20:09Put your hand up
20:11Now
20:11Put your hand up
20:13Good
20:14I'll probably stay awake
20:20Good lad
20:20Right, fantastic
20:21That's good
20:21Right, so she admitted to sex
20:23I didn't run very manly there, did I?
20:25No, definitely
20:25All right, don't stop
20:26So she admitted to sexual acts
20:29How did you react to that when she said that?
20:31I was just in pure shock
20:32And I was like
20:33What, so if you've lied about that
20:34Then obviously you've lied about effing girls
20:35Can you forgive her for that?
20:37I don't know
20:37Do you see a future with this woman?
20:39Yes or no?
20:39I'm not sure, to be fair
20:40And interestingly
20:42She's the paranoid one
20:43You're not even allowed to look at one
20:44Yeah, no, it's funny
20:45Like, if I mention anything about her phone
20:47Because she's always signed up to them stupid
20:48Like, competitions and stuff
20:50So that she's getting phone calls and texts
20:52She doesn't know who it is, ever
20:53That's the explanation
20:54On a regular basis
20:55Because I've got a strict certain amount of friends
20:57And people who contact me
20:58So I know who
20:58You're not out of eye contact with girls, are you?
21:00Yeah, I've been in the shop before
21:01And a girl's laughed at me
21:02And I give her the best smile I've ever given her
21:04Do you know what I mean?
21:04I don't give her it
21:05Do you know what I mean?
21:06So she's really paranoid about
21:07Looks, taxes, anything
21:09You think that masks her guilt?
21:11Yeah
21:11Well, there's no reason
21:12I don't give her any
21:13I've never given her once
21:14One suspicion
21:15At all
21:16To say that
21:16So you love it
21:17You want to get the truth
21:18You've got a kid with her
21:18Samantha's on the Jeremy Carr show
21:20That way
21:20That wasn't the best look that you gave him
21:30And yet you're the one who only last night
21:32Admitted what you did
21:33Why?
21:33Because at least I told him
21:34Sorry, we obviously come from a different planet
21:39But only last night
21:40Before you came on the Jeremy Carr show
21:41How long ago did it happen?
21:43About two years ago
21:44But why didn't you tell him then then?
21:49Obviously missing the point
21:50Rorsch, nearly fell over
21:51What happened?
21:53We all sat there on the sofa
21:55We were having a drink
21:56And I don't know
21:57One thing led to another
21:58What did it lead to?
22:00That sounded really wrong
22:01The way I said that
22:02What did it lead to?
22:03Intercourse
22:04Have you cheated with a man?
22:06No
22:06But what say that some people would think
22:08That you only admitted last night
22:10Because you knew that would get you out
22:12Of any other lies you'd told?
22:13No, it wouldn't
22:14You don't even look bothered
22:16You don't even look shocked
22:17By the fact
22:18And he said nothing
22:19You've admitted this
22:20At the last minute
22:22And you're sort of in wonderment
22:23That all of us are thinking
22:24She's a lying mare
22:25Well, you'll all see
22:27DNA
22:30Why are we doing a DNA?
22:31Ask him
22:32Obviously
22:33After all these accusations
22:34And stuff that I've been throwing around
22:36It's been like
22:36Obviously doing me head in
22:37For quite a while
22:3818 months or two years
22:39Anytime she says something
22:40Where's your dad?
22:41I'll say
22:41I don't know
22:42Where is he?
22:42And I'll look around
22:43Let's take Sam's side for a minute
22:45Because these are quite honest words
22:47She says that Jack is completely paranoid
22:49He makes me feel worthless and useless
22:51He looks at other women
22:52But never me
22:53He watches women in no clothes
22:55In music videos
22:56Oh, yeah
22:57Proper sits there, go up in
22:59What's this about
23:00I nearly dribbled then
23:01What's this about the strip club
23:02And the lap dance?
23:04About a year and a half
23:05Nearly two years ago
23:07Went out with his mates
23:08And apparently his mates
23:09Pulled him into
23:10Have a lap dance
23:11They pulled you into it?
23:12Yeah, yeah
23:12She's walking down the road
23:13Me and Will
23:14Walking down there
23:15Let's do this
23:15She's walking down the road
23:16Nice night out
23:17Let's go to a strip club
23:18Come on
23:18She didn't want to go
23:20She didn't want to go
23:21She's going to do it like that
23:22She's going to go
23:23Yeah, yeah
23:23I was out on my 25th birthday
23:27She's got no legs to get up and walk out
23:29And there was a
23:30You lapped it up
23:31What happened in the lap dancing club?
23:34I can't really remember
23:34Can't remember
23:35So something could have happened
23:36White bra
23:37White thongs
23:38But you can't remember it
23:38Sorry?
23:39Oh, yeah
23:40Blonde hair
23:41White
23:42White bra
23:42White thongs
23:43But you can't remember none of it
23:44You came back and said to her
23:48I told her the next day
23:48Obviously I was still drunk or whatever
23:50And I said I went out for a night out
23:51Blah, blah, blah
23:51And I've just obviously been running my mouth
23:53And just said yeah
23:53Ended up being dragged into a
23:55You know
23:55Lap dancing
23:56Come on
23:56Don't want to go
23:57Come on
23:58Don't want to go
23:58All right then
23:59I'll go
23:59Yes
24:00But you mentioned
24:01You mentioned the white thong
24:02And the bra
24:03Yeah
24:03And blonde hair
24:04I've mentioned that
24:05That's what I remember
24:05And blonde hair
24:06Here's the million dollar question
24:09See
24:09Because I'm going to
24:10I'm not taking her side
24:11I've been trying to balance this out
24:12She's spent all morning saying to us
24:14That she wants you to do a lie detector
24:16Because she doesn't trust you
24:17What?
24:17And he won't
24:18And he's refusing to do a lie detector
24:20Oh
24:20Which sort of flips the whole thing
24:23Well look
24:24End of the day
24:24No not look
24:25Answer me man to man
24:26If you want to prove you've done nothing
24:27Why don't you do the same as her?
24:29Because I've got no
24:29There's no ground
24:30She doesn't trust you
24:32There's no grounds whatsoever
24:33You won't do a lap dancing club
24:34I've not give her one single shred
24:36Of doubt at all
24:37There's nothing she can say
24:38About a lap dancing
24:39When I was 25 and 27 now
24:40Secretive on your phone
24:41That's it
24:41She's just trying to drag me down with her
24:43As in
24:44Oh you've done one
24:44So let's just see
24:45Hopefully you've done one as well
24:46So when I fail
24:47We both look bad
24:47Maybe you're not doing one
24:48Because you think she will fail
24:50And you'll get the upper hand
24:50And you don't want to be on a level playing field
24:52Maybe the two of you look so damn miserable
24:54You shouldn't be together in the first place
24:55Or maybe I'm missing the thing
24:57I don't know
24:58Right so
25:00You've done a lie detector
25:02And a DNA
25:03Yeah
25:04You admitted that you
25:05Whatever last night were doing
25:06But you're refusing to
25:07Yeah
25:08Think about it during the ad break
25:09If she passes
25:10Surely you want to clear your name
25:11Start with a clean slate
25:12Happy families
25:13You've got the opportunity
25:14Back in a mini-mo
25:15Gym jam
25:16Ta
25:16The DNA testers
25:18I'll show the jack
25:18Today at 38
25:23We could change your life forever
25:2538 years
25:26And for me I hope you get the answers you want
25:28Because everybody deserves it
25:29And I appreciate you being here
25:30If you look through that door
25:31Potentially this could be your dad
25:33Colin on the Jeremy Cowell Show
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25:43Do you have evidence to prove it
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26:07Welcome back for the break
26:17We met Jack and Samantha
26:19Jack came out and said
26:20Look you know what
26:20From very early doors in this relationship
26:22I haven't trusted this woman
26:23People have said rumours
26:24People have
26:25You know
26:25I don't know
26:26It just doesn't work out
26:26Last night
26:27Loads and loads of accusations
26:29Last night we come to the JK show
26:31And she admits to sexual contact
26:33With a couple of women
26:34You came out and said
26:35Well that's me being honest
26:36I've done a lie detector
26:36I fronted it out last night
26:38He's throwing at me
26:39All these accusations
26:40Is the kid not his
26:41And here's the interesting thing
26:42You refuse to do a lie detector
26:44You must have thought about it
26:46Come on pal
26:46Yeah no no
26:47I did give it a thought
26:47Then just do one
26:48No no I refuse to
26:49I'm not being funny
26:49I've brought her hair today
26:51And she's come on
26:51To prove that she hasn't cheated on me
26:53Because I've had three separate
26:55I've had three big doubts
26:56She says she's livid
26:57And the fact that you refuse to tell him
26:59I told him
27:00If he doesn't do a lie detector
27:01Then what
27:02We're going to go home
27:03And I'm not going to show us to
27:04I'll just go
27:05I've got no grounds
27:06To do one
27:07You don't want to be with him though
27:08Do you
27:08I don't want to spend the rest of my life
27:10With him
27:10I want to marry him
27:11You've got no grounds
27:12To not do one
27:13That's the thing
27:14The thing is
27:14Look
27:14Not being funny
27:15She's done a few different things
27:16She's been out picture
27:17With people on nights out
27:18A picture
27:18There's me
27:19A girl
27:20And the lad's arm
27:21Is around the girl
27:22You've got nothing to eye bait
27:24Do an eye detector
27:25I don't want to make any sense
27:28I don't want to do one
27:29I think I have to
27:30I will hear
27:31I get the distinct impression
27:33That you'd both be very happy
27:34If this relationship finished
27:35We asked Samantha
27:36Oh
27:37A production note
27:38At a party
27:39Jack saw Samantha kiss another woman
27:41We talked about this
27:41She admitted
27:42Last night
27:43She doesn't have sexual contact
27:44With this woman
27:44Including oral sex
27:46She also admitted to kissing
27:48Another woman
27:49On a separate occasion
27:50Yep
27:50Fantastic
27:50I mean not fantastic
27:51Dreadful
27:52Where did that come from
27:54So we asked Samantha
27:55During your relationship with Jack
27:57Other than what you've admitted to
27:58Have you kissed anyone else
27:59During your relationship
28:00You said no
28:00Why did you say no
28:01Because I wasn't
28:01Tess says you're a liar
28:02So Tess wrong is it
28:07That's what you think
28:08Carry on
28:08You don't care at all
28:12About this
28:12I don't know
28:12No
28:13During your relationship with Jack
28:15Other than what you've just admitted to
28:16Have you had sexual contact with anyone
28:17She said no
28:17This Tess says you were lying
28:18On that question
28:19Oh that the test's full of what
28:23No so are you
28:24Because you failed
28:25Every single question
28:26You want him to do one
28:33Because you knew it would cancel
28:34What you've done love
28:36That's exactly the truth
28:37And now he's going to be able
28:38To walk away
28:39And say she was a cheat
28:41Because he won't do one
28:42And the saddest thing
28:43About all of this
28:44Is there's a kid involved
28:46Why did you have DNA doubts
28:47Because when I was three or four
28:49When she was three or four weeks pregnant
28:51One of her
28:51One of her exes
28:53You say that child might not be yours
28:54Because he's got pale skin
28:56Well no
28:56It's his hair as well
28:57Obviously I've got dark
28:59Darker hair
28:59Haven't I
28:59Not pale skin
29:00It's just
29:01The DNA test has got to show that Jack
29:03He is your child
29:06No reaction to having been outed as a load
29:17Are you trying to say to me then
29:18That accusation
29:19Because by the way
29:21This accusation
29:21Was that he randomly turned up
29:24On a night out
29:25That he was out
29:26And her and her
29:27Let him round
29:27To come in
29:28And stayed the night
29:29On the sofa
29:30She didn't want him there
29:30But he stayed the sofa
29:31A room away from her
29:32And nothing happened
29:33Can I ask you a question
29:34You don't agree with that test no
29:36But then you admitted last night
29:38To cheating
29:38Yeah I did
29:39You're the biggest liar
29:40We've had for a long long time
29:42So why did you admit that
29:47I'm waiting to say something at least
29:50Come on this way for what
29:51And talk to Manchester for this
29:53What happens
29:55That's the end of the relationship
29:59Yeah
29:59Right well that's another
30:01Great great result there
30:02On the Jeremy Cowell show
30:03So you're not going to do
30:04A lie detector
30:05No
30:05There's no reason to
30:06She's a cheat
30:07All these reasons
30:08Like there's this
30:10So you don't want to be with her
30:11No
30:11And you don't want to be with him
30:12Obviously I want to be with him
30:13Sorry
30:14Obviously I do
30:15Well then tell him the damn truth then
30:17Here you haven't
30:18Here's another thing
30:21I actually thought today
30:25I thought like the DNA
30:26I was almost convinced
30:27He's mine anyway
30:28Because there's doubts
30:29Right that's what's made me think that
30:30But I was quite sure
30:32That she was a good chance
30:33About cheating
30:33But I didn't actually think it
30:35You know you think it
30:36But you don't
30:36You're not 100%
30:37You know but
30:38So you did think it then
30:39Anyway
30:40She's a cheat
30:41What happens
30:42I don't know
30:43I'm not together then
30:44You will
30:45And do you see the face
30:46Because she just raised her eyes
30:47To say he'll come back to me
30:49No I didn't
30:49Yes she did
30:50You and I let
30:51No I won't
30:52It would just be one of them
30:53Sad one for the kid
30:54That's all I'm thinking of
30:55It is sad for the child
30:56And if you can make it work
30:58Sit down with our team
30:59And talk about it
30:59But at the end of the day
31:00You've got to be honest with each other
31:01You go that way
31:02You go that way
31:02Give them a round of applause
31:03APPLAUSE
31:04Good luck to them
31:07Right on the next guest today
31:08Keith is here
31:08Because he believes
31:09That after a lifetime of searching
31:11He may have finally found his dad
31:12He says that he was adopted
31:13At an early age
31:14And after being told
31:15Different stories over the years
31:16He finally made contact
31:17A few days ago
31:18With a man that he believes
31:19Could be his father
31:20This is such an important day
31:22For this guy
31:22He's waiting a long long time
31:23Keith is on the Jeremy Kyle show
31:25That week
31:26APPLAUSE
31:28Really nice to meet you
31:32Very much indeed
31:33I love these stories
31:35If they work out
31:36I think that
31:37You know
31:38We should all perhaps
31:39In an ideal world
31:40Know
31:41Who our parents
31:42And our siblings are
31:43Let's hear about this
31:45Today
31:46At 38
31:47We could change your life forever
31:50At three years of age
31:51You were adopted
31:52When do you
31:55When you're young
31:56And you've been adopted
31:57When do you work that out
31:58When do you know
31:59That that's the case
32:01Because you told my team
32:02It was difficult growing up
32:03Because you felt like
32:03You didn't belong
32:04Yeah I mean I was told
32:05From day one
32:06And obviously at the age
32:08Of sort of three
32:08You know you're being adopted
32:11And that sort of thing
32:12So yeah
32:12Well I did
32:13You know
32:14So I've always been told
32:15I was adopted
32:16And then
32:16I got to 18
32:17Legally allowed to find
32:19Parents
32:21So I did
32:22You got hold of your birth certificate
32:23You got hold of your birth mum
32:24Through the phone book
32:25Yeah
32:25You made contact with her
32:28There was a guy on the birth certificate
32:30As well
32:30You found him
32:32Yeah I found him
32:33And he
32:35Straight away
32:36He said
32:36I'm not your biological father
32:38I was just
32:39Married to your mum
32:40And on your birth certificate
32:43Because it was
32:43You know
32:44Nearly 40 years ago
32:45Tell my team of 38
32:46I've always asked my mum for info
32:47She tells me nothing
32:48Why?
32:50I don't know
32:50I think it's just part of her life
32:51That she doesn't want to
32:52Acknowledge
32:54Does that cause problems
32:55Between the two of you?
32:55It can do
32:56You know
32:57How important is finding
32:58Your birth father?
33:00It's just
33:02Crossing T's
33:03And dotting I's
33:03Isn't it?
33:04You know
33:04It's funny isn't it
33:06Because I read your story
33:07This morning
33:07And I thought to myself
33:07It's only a few weeks ago
33:09And there can never be
33:10An exact moment
33:11When that light comes on
33:12At 38 years of age
33:13Why now
33:14Did you suddenly think
33:15I've got to do this?
33:17It literally was that
33:18Why?
33:18I was sat on the couch
33:19Scrolling through Facebook
33:21And I thought
33:22You know what
33:23I'll find the guy
33:25So I put his name in
33:27Sent him a message
33:29Didn't hear anything back
33:30So then I went on to
33:32His friends list
33:33Saw a couple of people
33:35That messaged him quite often
33:36So I messaged them
33:37And said
33:38I think I might be his son
33:39Can you get him to get in contact with me?
33:40Did he get into contact with you?
33:41His niece did
33:42You haven't met Colin?
33:45No
33:45Have you had conversations with him?
33:48No
33:48Nothing?
33:49Nothing
33:49You tell my team
33:50I want him to be my dad
33:51I know that
33:52You know
33:53In having those foundations
33:54To my life
33:55It would help me
33:55But I guess I also
33:57Would have questions for him
33:57Can I just say something?
33:59A lot of people come out here
34:00And they're able to
34:01You know
34:02Express how they feel
34:03For others
34:03It's terrifying
34:04And I get that
34:05I think for this guy
34:06The questions probably
34:08Would need to be done
34:09Later on
34:10But we've done
34:11What we obviously say
34:12We're always going to do
34:13I've got a statement
34:14From your mum
34:15It's quite interesting
34:16She says
34:16There's absolutely no doubt
34:17That Colin is 100% Keith's father
34:19And Colin knows it too
34:21I've told Keith this
34:22On numerous occasions
34:22But he doesn't want to listen
34:24He won't have it
34:25Until he hears it for himself
34:26Well yeah
34:28I mean
34:28Whenever I do talk to my mother
34:29About it
34:30It's
34:30Told you who your dad is
34:31Let's leave it at that
34:32This is the guy
34:34You believe to be your father
34:35Will obviously do the DNA test
34:37And all of that
34:3738 years
34:39And for me
34:39I hope you get the answers
34:40You want
34:41Because everybody deserves it
34:42And I appreciate you being here
34:43If you look through that door
34:44Potentially
34:45This could be your dad
34:46Colin
34:46On the Jeremy Kyle show
34:47I haven't done the DNA yet
35:05But my god
35:06You two look quite similar
35:07Don't you?
35:10How are you feeling?
35:11Stupid question right?
35:13I want to be his dad
35:15I'm getting old
35:16But if he needs me
35:18I'll be there
35:18How you doing?
35:23Oh bless you
35:24Can't say anything?
35:26No
35:26Let me bring in your niece
35:28Hannah
35:29Where's Hannah?
35:31Oh bless you
35:32Are you miked darling?
35:34You were
35:35You made contact with Hannah
35:36On that Facebook
35:37Yeah mate
35:39What does this mean
35:40To your uncle today?
35:42Obviously it's just
35:43It all happened so quick
35:44And with illness
35:45And that it's just hard
35:46I don't know
35:46You're not on the best
35:47Of health pal
35:48No?
35:49Okay
35:49Really appreciate you coming
35:51Are you alright?
35:52Do you want to come down here?
35:54Come and sit and support me
35:55Thank you
35:55Thank you
35:56Thank you
35:58Thank you
35:58Thank you
35:59Thank you
35:59Thank you
36:00Thank you
36:00Thank you
36:01Thank you
36:01Thank you
36:01Thank you
36:02Thank you
36:02Thank you
36:03Thank you
36:03Thank you
36:03Thank you
36:03Thank you
36:04Thank you
36:04I think I want to say
36:05One thing before we do it
36:06I don't ever know the results
36:07I hope you get the answers
36:08That you want
36:09It's then a process
36:10But the world was a different place
36:1238 years ago
36:13And it is very easy
36:14I want to make this point
36:16Not because I'm being
36:16Overly fair to Cole
36:18But
36:18It's very easy
36:2038 years later
36:22To go
36:22Why didn't you do this
36:23Why didn't you do that
36:24And I get that completely
36:25It was a different world
36:26There are two sides
36:27To every story
36:28And I think
36:28That's something
36:29If you are his father
36:30We're going to need to talk about
36:31But fundamentally
36:32In my mind
36:33Everybody should find out
36:35Who their dad is
36:35I hope you get the answers
36:36You want
36:36I don't know
36:37You okay?
36:38Yeah
36:39What does this mean to you?
36:42To me
36:43Not a lot
36:43Really
36:43That sounds really flippant
36:45But I've gone through my life
36:47Finding extra members
36:49Of my family
36:50Because of my adoption
36:51And when I was 18
36:52I found my mother
36:53And siblings
36:54So this is just
36:55Like I've done
36:56The dress rehearsals
36:57For this
36:58It's obviously
36:59Going to be hard
36:59On Colin
37:00Either way
37:01It's your dad
37:06Phil say something now
37:28What can I say?
37:33Say something to your son
37:34Nice to meet you mate
37:36Nice to meet you
37:37I'm somewhere there
37:39I mean
37:40The overall
37:42Outriding thing
37:44Is
37:44When I got in contact
37:46With Hannah
37:46And she mentioned
37:48My adoption
37:48It all clicked
37:50So you knew
37:51That I existed
37:52Oh yeah
37:53I know you existed
37:54Yes
37:54I know you existed
37:55So
37:56For that first three years
37:58Yeah
37:59You know
37:59If
38:00If
38:01I'd been with some woman
38:04And I found out
38:05She'd had a child
38:06I would make it
38:07My choice
38:09My
38:09Inside my
38:10I'd have to find out
38:11If that child was mine or not
38:12Yeah
38:12I just
38:13You know
38:13Things like that
38:14That I need to know from you
38:15Oh
38:15He'll have a chance
38:18To talk and do this properly
38:20I promise you that
38:20And I
38:21I quite like your honesty
38:22Actually
38:22Because I think it's really
38:24This show's always been real
38:26Good, bad or indifferent
38:27Whatever you think of it
38:28And it's not always a bed of roses
38:29He has got questions
38:30He'll have a point of view
38:31Yeah
38:32From my point of view
38:33The best thing
38:34And he hasn't been in the best of health
38:35Is that
38:35We've put the two of you together
38:37And we'll provide that help
38:38That service that you need now
38:39Happy you came?
38:41Yeah
38:41Happy you came?
38:42Yeah
38:42And you
38:42Give him a round of applause
38:43We're going that way
38:44Thank you very much
38:45CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
38:46CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
38:48CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
38:50We'll let you know how that goes
38:51And after the break on this stage
38:52A sister here to confront her brother
38:54We're right back
38:55Don't go anywhere
38:55I'm going to show you a photograph
38:57Of this young man
38:58A year ago
39:00Weighing 14 stone
39:02Twelve months later
39:03He's put on 16 stone
39:06This is him now
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39:47Welcome back
39:47My next guest today
39:48Lisa and Des
39:49Are here to confront
39:49Lisa's brother Lee
39:50Who they say
39:51Has been piling on the pounds
39:53Since the sad death
39:54Of his parents
39:55And now they are terrified
39:56Quite literally
39:57That this young man
39:58Is eating himself to death
39:59They're really concerned
40:00They're desperate for help
40:00There's lots to this story
40:02And I absolutely respect them
40:03For coming here
40:03Lisa and Des
40:04Are on the Jeremy Kyle show
40:05That way
40:05Nice to meet you
40:14How are you son?
40:15You alright?
40:16Yeah
40:16Why did you come here?
40:18Because I want to get my brother help
40:20I just want to put this into perspective
40:22Right
40:22I'm going to show you a photograph
40:24Of this young man
40:26A year ago
40:27Weighing 14 stone
40:29Can you put that picture up?
40:3412 months later
40:35He's put on 16 stone
40:38This is him now
40:40Why?
40:47Because mum and dad went
40:48And they used to basically look after him
40:53And they weren't there to look after him anymore
40:56You say he's desperately in need of help
40:58It's the worst you've ever seen him
41:00He's lost control since they died
41:05He's lonely
41:07And he comfort eats
41:08I'm going to show you what this guy
41:11Would eat on a daily basis
41:12Have you got that picture please
41:14From the green room earlier?
41:1510 pies and mash for lunch
41:23It's 10,000 calories a day
41:26So we can all sit here and go
41:28Why would you do that?
41:29But this man is desperate
41:31Anything you put in front of Lee
41:35He will eat
41:35He's like a human vacuum
41:37Yeah
41:37What do you think he needs?
41:39Does he need an arm around his shoulders
41:40Or a foot up his backside?
41:43Seriously
41:44That's why he came here isn't it?
41:45Yeah
41:45What does he mean to you?
41:47The world is the last one I've got left
41:49I've been my partner
41:51I've known him for 35 years
41:53And I don't want him to die
41:56And he will die?
41:58Yeah
41:58I mean he will die?
42:00Yeah
42:00Everyone knows that
42:01The problem is
42:02Because you're a lovely lady
42:03I only know one way of doing this
42:06Your way
42:07That's why
42:08Is that alright?
42:09First of all I'm going to say
42:11I have great respect for this guy
42:12Right?
42:13It's very easy for us all to sit there
42:15And go
42:15Well stop eating
42:16That's what I used to say
42:17I remember when I started this years ago
42:18But there's a lot of people
42:20Who are addicted to food
42:21There's a lot of people who comfort eat
42:22Because they're not dealing with
42:23What's going on in their lives
42:24And this guy is certainly lonely
42:26Stays in the house
42:27But to put on 16 stone in one year
42:30The reality
42:32The cold hard reality
42:33Is that he will die
42:34The pressure on his organs
42:35Type 2 diabetes
42:37Everything
42:37Is a ticking time bomb
42:39But I promise you
42:41If he wants to do it
42:41Will change his life
42:42Lee's on the Jeremy Kyle show
42:43Give him a round of applause
42:44Why Lee?
42:58Just over eating
43:01Why?
43:02Because I lost my mum and dad
43:03Lost my mum a year ago
43:05So did I
43:06And I lost my dad this year
43:08And that meant everything to me
43:10I lost my mum a year ago
43:13She meant everything to me
43:13More important than anybody else in the world
43:15But I didn't find a crutch
43:16Why did you find a crutch?
43:17There's different ways of dealing with it
43:19Yeah
43:20You could go out
43:21You could take drugs
43:21You could get drunk every night
43:23And I saw her eating food
43:25Look at the picture
43:27The whole point is
43:28I've always been a big person
43:29Look at the picture
43:30Yeah
43:32Can I ask you a question?
43:35You were as close to your mum
43:36As close could be, right?
43:37Yeah
43:38You're killing yourself
43:40I know
43:40What would she say to you right now?
43:43She'd be there for me
43:44She'd kick you out the backside
43:46She'd kick me out the backside
43:46And try to help me
43:47Like they always did
43:49She didn't want to die, did she?
43:50No
43:51But you will die
43:52And I'm not being horrible
43:55I'm being honest
43:55You will die
43:56What you are doing to your body
43:58You will die
44:00Yeah
44:00Why should I help you?
44:03Because I need the help
44:04You have to help yourself
44:05You've done nothing to help yourself, have you?
44:06You're just
44:06Killing yourself
44:08I have tried helping myself
44:10How?
44:10In the past I've lost weight
44:12And I can't keep doing it
44:14I've been told it's not good for me
44:15To keep losing the weight
44:17Piling it back on
44:18You've told my team
44:19I've got no confidence
44:20Leaving the house
44:21But you're sat on national television
44:23And you talk very eloquently
44:24You know exactly what's going on
44:25I could do it if I've got the help
44:27What sort of help?
44:29Go away
44:29Help with training
44:30Help with the mindset
44:32What if I offer you help
44:33And you throw it back in my face?
44:35I wouldn't
44:35I'll tell you I'm going to bring out
44:38I'm going to bring Graham out
44:39And Craig from Team Boot Camp
44:40Give him a round of applause
44:41APPLAUSE
44:43Your life's about to go down the swanny
44:49Here he is
44:49The big man
44:50You all right?
44:51You all right?
44:52Craig, welcome to the show
44:53Graham and I
44:55We talk a lot about this show
44:57He's a massive fan of yours
44:59And so am I
44:59A lot of people watching this
45:01Don't take this the wrong way
45:02Will think
45:03How can you possibly do something
45:05To somebody that's
45:06Put on 16 stone in a year
45:08And weighs in at 30 stone
45:09How do you start?
45:11I think the obvious answer
45:13Is exercise
45:13But I think
45:14When we did a little bit of a test
45:16With Lee before
45:17And
45:17The sheer mass that he's carrying
45:20Really affects the mechanics of his body
45:23Exercise is not the place to start
45:25Because
45:25It's restricting his movement
45:27It's restricting the big muscles
45:28That's in the body
45:29And they're the muscles
45:30That are going to burn the calories
45:31So we've got to start
45:32With what's going in
45:33We've got to start with the food
45:34And then we've got to start
45:36Changing the idea of
45:37Who Lee believes he is
45:38You know
45:38One of the first things he says
45:40Was I've always been a big kid
45:41Well that's not an excuse now
45:42You know
45:42And
45:42Just because you was a big kid
45:44Doesn't mean you have to be a big adult
45:46We can change that
45:47Because you are the sum
45:48Of all the choices you've made
45:50Yeah
45:50Up to this point now
45:51It's very easy
45:52You could have come out and said
45:54Exercise
45:54Or food
45:55The guys there talk about the whole thing
45:58Certainly psychologically
45:59He comfort eats
46:00And he comfort eats
46:01Because he's missing his parents
46:02And he's sad
46:03Right
46:03But it's totally understandable
46:05As well
46:06Because
46:06From a very early age in life
46:08You know
46:08We're nurtured with food
46:10We're rewarded with food
46:12And pretty early on in life
46:13We build up that relationship
46:14You know
46:15That emotional relationship
46:16With food
46:17And he was quite eloquent
46:19In what he said
46:20Yes he does comfort eat
46:21He's been through some
46:22Pretty dreadful times
46:23Over the last two or three years
46:25And as a result of that
46:26He's been soothing
46:28All of those negative emotions
46:29By eating
46:30So it is understandable
46:32He does understand that
46:33It's not just about
46:34The weight loss
46:35And it's not just about
46:37The exercise
46:37It's also about
46:38Not relapsing
46:40And putting the weight back on
46:41And that's why
46:41I'm always impressed
46:42With Team Bootcamp
46:44Because they actually
46:45Cover all aspects
46:46Of weight loss
46:47What are we going to offer
46:49Craig
46:49Listen to this pal
46:51I'd like to take him away
46:52For 12 weeks
46:53A full 12 week residential
46:55Where we start off
46:57Working on his food
46:58Your portion size
46:59Is obviously
47:00Dramatically going to change
47:01Pretty instantly
47:03To be honest
47:04And then we'll work up to
47:06Eventually five or six hours
47:08Of pretty tough
47:08Intense military style training
47:10Towards the end of the session
47:13Now
47:13You know
47:14The results you're going to get
47:17If you stick to the programme
47:18Are going to be immense
47:19And truly life changing
47:20Lisa what do you make of this?
47:22I think it's brilliant
47:23Think he can do it?
47:24I think he definitely would
47:25You've got to bear in mind
47:26Lee works
47:27So to be able to take
47:2812 weeks off of work
47:29He could be risking his job
47:30But it's the whole thing
47:31He's sorting his life
47:33We'll sort that
47:33Des do you think you can do it?
47:35Oh definitely
47:35All day long
47:36I'll get you three months off
47:37I'll make you a challenge
47:38You come back here
47:40Three months to the day
47:41How much would you expect him?
47:43I'm going to set you a challenge actually
47:44How much would you expect him Craig?
47:46If he follows what you said
47:48Portion size psychologically
47:49The exercise and everything
47:51Set me a target for him
47:53In three months
47:53And I'll bring him back here
47:54Fail me
47:54I would think
47:55If we debracket it
47:57I think six stone
47:58If we
47:58If we truly restrict
48:00By the mobility
48:0120% of your body weight
48:04That's the challenge
48:04In 12 weeks
48:06Half a stone a week
48:07You up for it?
48:08But I think we can get up to
48:09Seven
48:09Seven and a half
48:10If he applies himself
48:11This man's an amazing man
48:12And I am delighted
48:13That we can do this for you
48:15But you need to grasp this
48:16With both hands
48:16Alright?
48:17Really nice to meet you
48:18You go that way
48:22Give him a round of applause
48:23Go that way
48:24Thank you very much
48:25Thank you
48:27Thank you
48:28Yeah you've got to go now
48:32Go on
48:33And when I next see you
48:34Six stone minimum
48:36Give him a round of applause
48:37Fair play for coming
48:38We'll let you know
48:41That's not going to be easy
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