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00:00Alhamdulillah wa salatu wa salamu ala malla nabiya baada, amma baad fawzubillahi minash shaitaanir rajeem, bismillahir rahmanir raheem.
00:25Assalamu alaikum nazareen, ARYQ TV Lahore Studios se program Ittihad-e-Ummat lekar Dr. Muhammad Tahir Mustafa ki khidmat mein hazir.
00:34Ladies and gentlemen, isn't it today's knowledge that our creator is one, our master is one, our provider is one, our leader and guide, the Seal of the Prophets, peace be upon him, whose Ummah we are, is one, our Kaaba is one, our Koran is one.
00:56But in spite of all this, we create differences by taking the details, and then on the basis of those differences, on the basis of those details, we raise the foundations of enmity with each other to such an extent that in the end we start calling each other kafir with our own language.
01:22Ladies and gentlemen, to make a decision on someone's kufr or takfiriyyat or to issue a fatwa is not a small decision. This is a matter of great courage, and it is a very big thing that we take.
01:41But ladies and gentlemen, if we look at it from a principle perspective, who do we entrust our leadership to? Those who are worthy of it, those who know the principles of leadership, those who know the principles of leadership, we entrust our leadership to them.
01:57Who can lead? Those who are aware of their principles, know what leadership is, how blood is shed, and what is the fundamental purpose of that bloodshed? It is healing. This is the principle.
02:17Ladies and gentlemen, who can lead? Those who know the intricacies of the law, we entrust our leadership to them, we do not entrust it to an ordinary person.
02:29But what is the matter that the only takfiriyyat in our society today is such that we have taken it in our own hands, we do not keep any principles in front of us, we do not keep any intricacies in front of us that if a fatwa of kufr is issued from my tongue or if I make a decision, what will be its effects on society?
02:56We do not think at all.
02:58Ladies and gentlemen, this thought and this takfiriyyat, what destruction it has caused in our society and how we can deal with it, how we can have mercy on this wound, this will be the topic of our discussion today in the programme Ittihad-e-Ummat.
03:20Ladies and gentlemen, to discuss this sensitive topic, the guests who have come to the programme today, please come to my right.
03:28Mr. Allama Dr. Zia-Ullah Shah Bukhari, he is a former member of the Islamic Thought Council.
03:34Mashallah, he is a scholar of religion and I say that he is the ambassador of the Qur'an, the ambassador of the hadith, and he comes to our programme as a special guest.
03:43I am grateful and grateful.
03:45Assalamualaikum.
03:46Assalamualaikum.
03:47Assalamualaikum.
03:48May Allah bless you.
03:49May Allah bless you.
03:50May Allah bless you.
03:51May Allah bless you.
03:52May Allah bless you.
03:53Ladies and gentlemen, let me introduce you to my left, Mr. Hafiz Noman Hamid Jalandhari.
03:59Mashallah, he was also present in our previous programme.
04:03He is the grandson of Maulana Khair Muhammad Jalandhari, may Allah have mercy on him.
04:08He belongs to an intellectual family and he is a shining example of that family.
04:14Today's programme is the adornment of the United Nations.
04:16Assalamualaikum.
04:17May Allah bless you.
04:18Assalamualaikum.
04:19May Allah bless you.
04:20Are you well?
04:21Yes, Alhamdulillah.
04:22Thank you for your love.
04:23Ladies and gentlemen, let me introduce you to Mufti Muhammad Shafiq Awan.
04:28He is a Ph.D. Scholar in the District Khateeb, Lahore.
04:33He is a graduate of Dar-ul-Uloom Karachi and Jamiat-ul-Rasheed Karachi.
04:39Assalamualaikum, Mufti sahib.
04:40Waalaikumussalam.
04:41How are you?
04:42I am fine.
04:43May Allah bless you.
04:44Are you well?
04:45Yes, I am fine.
04:46Shah sahib, our programme's focus is the United Nations.
04:50So, in this path of the United Nations,
04:53which we see as the path of evil,
04:56which we see as the path of evil,
04:59which we see as the path of evil,
05:01and which we see as the path of evil,
05:03the deepest wound is of Takfiriyat.
05:06I said that every person has a responsibility
05:10which we assign a responsibility to.
05:13But Takfiriyat,
05:15each one of us calls the other a Kafir.
05:18And then it has so many terrible effects
05:21on our society, on our religion,
05:24which we cannot imagine.
05:26So, before we proceed with the discussion,
05:29that how can it be treated,
05:31what are the reasons for it,
05:33first of all, I would like to tell you that
05:35you say that we call someone a Kafir.
05:39Actually, who is a Kafir?
05:42What is Kufr?
05:44In terms of words and in terms of Sharia,
05:46what can we say about it,
05:48which is why we bring everyone here.
05:50In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Ever Merciful.
05:53Without a doubt, Mr. Dant,
05:55this is a very pure effort of yours
05:57to create unity and harmony in the Ummah.
06:01You and your institution, ARYQ TV,
06:04are worthy of being blessed.
06:06May Allah grant you a great reward for this.
06:09This is a commandment of Allah.
06:13And this is the will of Allah.
06:15And the Prophet, peace and blessings of Allah be upon him,
06:18has given us many instances in this regard.
06:21Your instructions, your blessed hadiths,
06:24your sermons are present,
06:26which give us a sign of this.
06:28They guide us that we have to act
06:31as if we are a part of a body.
06:35But certainly, as you said,
06:37unfortunately, I will say this,
06:40that in spite of such clear instructions,
06:43we have to act as if we are a part of a body,
06:46which is a natural difference in a society.
06:52And this is the will of Allah.
06:54Allah says in the Qur'an,
06:56If it were the will of Allah,
06:58Allah would not have made you all different.
07:02He would have made you all stand on one point of view.
07:06But this is not the will of Allah.
07:08So certainly, Allah, the Lord of the worlds,
07:11in this regard, as you have stated,
07:14the biggest difficulty in this regard,
07:17in the journey of our Ummah,
07:19and in our actions,
07:21is that we start calling each other
07:24non-believers on the basis of small differences,
07:27small issues that we have.
07:30Although Allah has himself,
07:32in the Holy Qur'an,
07:34forbidden a believer, a Muslim,
07:36a non-believer.
07:38Allah has forbidden this in the Holy Qur'an.
07:45O you who believe,
07:47when you go out in the way of Allah,
07:49and you meet someone,
07:51and he comes to you and says,
07:53As-salamu alaikum,
07:55and you say in reply,
07:57You are not a believer.
07:59What do you know?
08:01Allah has forbidden this.
08:03The Holy Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him,
08:05has forbidden this.
08:07Allah says,
08:09Do not call your Muslim brother a non-believer.
08:11If you call him a non-believer,
08:13in the presence of Allah,
08:15if he does not become a non-believer,
08:17then remember,
08:19illa rajat alaihi,
08:21that word kufr
08:23will come back on you.
08:25In the presence of Allah,
08:27you will be counted among the non-believers.
08:29That is,
08:31when a person is called a non-believer,
08:33he himself becomes a non-believer.
08:35This is such a big sin.
08:37My question is,
08:39we had to come to this point,
08:41and we will come to this point further.
08:43I was trying to explain the meaning of this.
08:45What is the meaning of this,
08:47that we call someone a non-believer?
08:49In the Arabic language,
08:51kufr means
08:53to conceal something.
08:55To conceal something.
08:57And in terms of terminology,
08:59in terms of Shariah,
09:01according to the terminology of our religion,
09:03it is called zid-ul-iman.
09:05The zid of faith is called kufr.
09:07The things,
09:09the facts,
09:11on which the Messenger of Allah
09:13has forbidden us to have faith,
09:15to have absolute certainty,
09:17and we do not believe in it,
09:19this is called kufr,
09:21like the oneness of Allah.
09:23This is the message and prophethood
09:25of the Prophet Muhammad.
09:27In the same way,
09:29the pillars of our religion,
09:31in terms of terminology,
09:33Allah and his Messenger,
09:35and the denial of the hereafter,
09:37the denial of any of our beliefs,
09:39in terms of Shariah,
09:41he becomes a non-believer.
09:43So this is such a big sin,
09:45as I was saying,
09:47and it started in the history of Islam,
09:49with Khawariz.
09:51With your permission,
09:53we will resume our discussion from here.
09:55I would like to go to Hafiz Sahib.
09:57Hafiz Sahib,
09:59can one Kalima Goh,
10:01a Muslim,
10:03call the other Kalima Goh,
10:05a non-believer,
10:07on the basis of
10:09partial differences?
10:13In the name of Allah,
10:15the Most Gracious, the Ever Merciful.
10:17First of all, I would like to thank
10:19and present my congratulations
10:21that you and this channel
10:23have started a series
10:25under the title of
10:27Ithihad-e-Ummah,
10:29and for the guidance
10:31and guidance of the people
10:33and the Muslim Ummah,
10:35and to serve the Ithihad-e-Ummah,
10:37there can be no greater good
10:39than this.
10:41This is a great Jihad
10:43that you are doing.
10:45May Allah accept it.
10:47I am a non-believer.
10:49I don't know about my actions,
10:51and I consider others as non-believers.
10:53As Allama Zia-Ullah Shah Bukhari
10:55has laid a very good foundation,
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14:01Allah says,
14:03No one has the right
14:05to issue
14:07fatwas of kufr on each other.
14:09I said that
14:11this is a very terrible decision
14:13that a person takes in his own hands.
14:15Every work has a responsibility
14:17and
14:19every responsibility has its own
14:21rules
14:23which we implement by bringing them into practice.
14:25But,
14:27Takfeerah is such an easy
14:29step which we take in our own hands
14:31and make the other person
14:33a Kafir instantly.
14:35Our Shariah,
14:37our Deen,
14:39what guidance does it give
14:41and where does it create
14:43hurdles that this is the limit
14:45and you cannot go beyond this.
14:47Inshallah.
14:49Thank you, Dr.
14:51First of all, I would like to present
14:53this narration on this great
14:55program of yours.
14:57And
14:59you have given me
15:01the opportunity to speak
15:03in this great program.
15:05As far as
15:07your question is concerned,
15:09the Shariah
15:11has set a limit
15:13to everything.
15:15Like,
15:17there is a limit to Iman
15:19and there is a limit to kufr.
15:21When will a person enter Iman?
15:23There are some principles and
15:25rules for that as well.
15:27For example,
15:29if you believe in God
15:31and His Messenger,
15:33then you must
15:35accept the hereafter
15:37and express it with your tongue.
15:39When you accept it,
15:41you will enter Iman.
15:43Similarly,
15:45there are limits to kufr as well.
15:47Who will be a Kafir
15:49and who will not?
15:51And when will it happen?
15:53And like you said,
15:55the Shariah has set a limit
15:57to everything.
15:59The public is not allowed
16:01to enter Iman.
16:03There are rules and
16:05conditions for that as well.
16:07A person who has
16:09expertise in Shariah,
16:11Hafiz Ibn Taymiyyah,
16:13may Allah have mercy on him,
16:15has said about kufr
16:17that it is a Shariah rule.
16:19It is a Shariah rule.
16:21It is not something
16:23that a person who has expertise
16:25in Shariah,
16:27Shariah rules,
16:29Shariah rules,
16:31Shariah rules,
16:33he has the right
16:35to make this rule.
16:37Who is a Kafir
16:39and who is a Muslim?
16:41It is the right of Allah and His Messenger.
16:43It is not the right of a person.
16:45But in the Quran and Hadith,
16:47the basic rules,
16:49principles and limits have been set.
16:51So,
16:53the Qazi or the Mufti
16:55who makes a fatwa,
16:57the limits and principles
16:59have been set for him.
17:01First of all, he should have
17:03complete expertise in Shariah.
17:05Quran, Hadith,
17:07Fiqh, the principles of Fiqh,
17:09he should have expertise
17:11in all the disciplines.
17:13Along with that,
17:15the person he is talking about,
17:17if he is going to make a fatwa
17:19then what are his conditions?
17:21If he has said something,
17:23then in what condition has he said it?
17:25Is he helpless?
17:27Along with that,
17:29if he has said something,
17:31it is possible that
17:33he has said it wrongly.
17:35So, if there is a mistake,
17:37or if he has said something
17:39in a state of helplessness,
17:41then there are clear instructions
17:43in the Quran regarding this.
17:45In Surah Nahl,
17:47Allah the Lord of Glory
17:49has mentioned this in detail.
17:51The incident of
17:53Hazrat Ammar Yassir
17:55has been quoted
17:57in a Hadith.
17:59Once he was
18:01in the hands of the polytheists
18:03and they forced him
18:05to say bad words
18:07about
18:09the Holy Prophet of Allah.
18:11And to praise
18:13our false deities.
18:15So,
18:17Hazrat Ammar bin Yassir
18:19in a state of helplessness
18:21said those words
18:23and praised their idols.
18:25So, when he
18:27came to the court
18:29of the Holy Prophet of Allah,
18:31he had tears in his eyes
18:33and he was worried
18:35and sad.
18:37So, the Holy Prophet of Allah
18:39asked the reason
18:41and he said,
18:43So, the Holy Prophet of Allah
18:45quoted the verse
18:47in Surah Nahl
18:49in which Allah the Lord of Glory
18:51has mentioned
18:53this.
18:55And further,
18:57Allah the Lord of Glory
18:59said that
19:01the one who has
19:03disbelief in his heart
19:05and adopts disbelief
19:07openly,
19:09we will call him a disbeliever.
19:11He is saying those words
19:13openly.
19:15So, for the Mufti, for the Qazi,
19:17it is necessary to know
19:19about the person
19:21he is talking about.
19:23After knowing all those things,
19:25he can come to the conclusion
19:27that he is a fatwa.
19:29Absolutely right, Mufti sahib.
19:31Shah sahib, I am again presenting to you.
19:33Firstly, we are talking about
19:35Takfiriyyat and its rejection.
19:37How can we stop this trend
19:39of calling each other
19:41disbelievers?
19:43Firstly,
19:45the one who calls
19:47someone a disbeliever,
19:49our question is, what is his
19:51qualification?
19:53On what basis does he call
19:55someone a disbeliever?
19:57Firstly, what should be his
19:59qualification?
20:01How can a person call someone
20:03a disbeliever?
20:05And secondly,
20:07Mufti sahib has also pointed out
20:09that there are certain conditions
20:11for a disbeliever.
20:13Who will become a disbeliever?
20:15On what basis will he become a disbeliever?
20:17By the way, in Surah Maun,
20:19Arabic
20:21Arabic
20:23Arabic
20:25Have you seen such a person
20:27who rejects
20:29fasting?
20:31Rejecting is also disbelief.
20:33But with whom? Not with his tongue,
20:35he does not feed the orphan,
20:37he does not associate with him.
20:39So, this is also
20:41mentioned in the Quran.
20:43Who can we
20:45call a disbeliever?
20:47On what basis
20:49can we say
20:51that he is a disbeliever?
20:53Doctor sahib,
20:55first of all,
20:57my two dear friends,
20:59Hafiz Noman Sabeed,
21:01Mufti Awan,
21:03Noman Hamid Sabeed,
21:05may Allah keep them safe.
21:07I would like to ask
21:09this question
21:11with his permission,
21:13that
21:15is it the fault
21:17of our religion
21:19that our jurists have decided
21:21that there is no doubt
21:23that a person is a disbeliever?
21:25The belief does not
21:27end on the basis of doubt.
21:29When a person says
21:31that he is a disbeliever,
21:33then he is a Muslim.
21:35Now, we cannot
21:37ignore his belief
21:39on the basis of doubt.
21:41This is the first thing.
21:43He has mentioned
21:45a few good examples.
21:47Now, the Prophet
21:49said
21:51who prays,
21:53who does Qibla,
21:55who does Zabiha,
21:57and who does
21:59Salat,
22:01who considers Baitullah as Qibla,
22:03who considers Zabiha as Halal,
22:05he is a Muslim.
22:07There can be
22:09many differences.
22:11There can be differences in beliefs.
22:13There can be differences in issues.
22:15So, the differences
22:17that we have,
22:19there is another important point
22:21that I would like to mention.
22:23Allah says in the Quran,
22:25Arabic
22:27Arabic
22:29Sometimes, a person
22:31is very happy.
22:33He gets upset.
22:35A person often says
22:37that it is very happy
22:39that
22:53Allah says
22:55Allahumma anta ab diwana rabbuka, wa mire Allah wa mire Allah
22:59He went mad with happiness. What was he supposed to say?
23:02O Allah, You are my Lord, I am Your servant.
23:04But he said it in reverse.
23:06Now, by saying it in reverse, the person is not a Kafir.
23:09If a person says such a thing intentionally,
23:13then he is surely a disbeliever.
23:15So, this is the answer.
23:17Now, who is to say it?
23:19I am saying it with their permission.
23:21Even the scholars cannot say it.
23:23This has nothing to do with Iftaat.
23:25To call a Kalima in a state a Kafir,
23:30to call a group a Kafir,
23:33this has nothing to do with Dar ul Iftaat.
23:36This has to do with Dar ul Qadhaat.
23:39This has to do with the law.
23:42Our state is responsible for our law.
23:45This is its right.
23:47It can say it to anyone.
23:49After seeing all the evidences,
23:51after seeing all the evidences,
23:59See, when we call someone a Kafir,
24:01what does it mean?
24:03It means that his wife will no longer be his wife.
24:07His Nikah is over.
24:09Now, his father's loyalty to his sons is over.
24:14Now, if he dies,
24:16then his inheritance,
24:18the inheritance given by the Muslims,
24:20is not a matter of inheritance.
24:22It is the inheritance of a Kafir.
24:24If in his life, his wife,
24:26whose Nikah was over due to Kufr,
24:29and then when he dies,
24:31neither will he be washed by the Muslims,
24:34nor will his funeral be offered,
24:36nor will he be buried in a Muslim graveyard.
24:39So many problems are arising.
24:41So, we give everyone a weapon
24:43so that if a Mufti stands up against anyone,
24:46and if a scholar stands up against anyone,
24:48and this is how our system is being created.
24:50This is how our system is being created.
24:52This is how our society is being created.
24:54So, this is not the right of anyone.
24:56This is only the right of the state.
24:58And the state too,
25:00with all the facts and evidences,
25:02is not like,
25:04if you have an argument with someone,
25:06you can say that person is a Kafir.
25:08No, this is not like that.
25:10In fact, do you know what is our position?
25:12There is a Hadeeth in this regard,
25:14and it is based on this.
25:16It says,
25:18Khata ul-Imaam-e
25:20Khata ul-Imaam-e
25:22Imam Khata Karje
25:24In what?
25:26In not calling someone a Kafir.
25:28Ahabbo.
25:30This is more important than
25:32making a mistake in punishing someone.
25:34Calling someone a Kafir is to punish.
25:36The mistake of punishing
25:38should not be this.
25:40The mistake of forgiving
25:42or not punishing
25:44should not be this.
25:46This is easier.
25:48But without any justification,
25:50punishing someone as a Kafir,
25:52this is very unlikable in the eyes of Allah.
25:54It is unlikable.
25:56Shahzad sahib, if you allow,
25:58there is a Waqfah.
26:00It is a very important matter
26:02and a very important discussion.
26:04It is a Waqfah.
26:06Let us go to the Darbar-e-Risalat
26:08and present Darood-e-Kareem
26:10in a grand manner
26:12on the Holy Prophet.
26:14After the Waqfah,
26:16we are at your service again.
26:18This is ARYQ-TV, Lahore Studios
26:20and our program is
26:22Ittihad-e-Ummat.
26:24Mr. Hafiz Noman Hamid,
26:26as Shahzad sahib said,
26:28no one has the right
26:30to call someone a Kafir.
26:32Especially a person who recites the Kalima.
26:34I have no right to call him a Kafir.
26:36This is the first thing.
26:38The second thing that Shahzad sahib said
26:40is that
26:42you and I cannot decide
26:44about someone's Kufr.
26:46If there is any doubt
26:48about someone,
26:50his views,
26:52his beliefs,
26:54his Kufr beliefs,
26:56still, you and I do not have the right.
26:58This will be decided by Qazi-ul-Qazat.
27:00My question is that
27:02in the court,
27:04if a case is presented
27:06about which we have a doubt
27:08whether it exists or not,
27:10then the court will investigate
27:12and issue its decision.
27:14A person openly
27:16denies his fundamental beliefs,
27:18denies his claims,
27:20denies his explanations,
27:22for that,
27:24do we need
27:26to go to court
27:28or is it
27:30absolutely certain
27:32that this group,
27:34these people,
27:36this individual is a Kafir?
27:38We can call him a Kafir.
27:40Yes, Dr. sahib,
27:42in this regard, we find many principles
27:44in the Quran and the Hadith.
27:46The jurists have also told us the principles.
27:48One is the Ayat-e-Karima
27:50which we read in the beginning.
27:52There are different types of people here.
27:54There are Kafirs, Muslims,
27:56Ahl-e-Iman, Ahl-e-Kufr.
27:58But the question is
28:00about our actions.
28:02There will be no question
28:04about others. We have to invite everyone.
28:06In the same way,
28:08among Muslims, there is
28:10Kufr-e-Mutlaq, that is, they have not read the Kalima.
28:12I am talking about Kufr-e-Mutlaq.
28:14I want to establish a distance.
28:16They are absolutely Kafirs.
28:18They openly deny themselves.
28:20They are doing it, so we don't even need to tell them
28:22because their actions are absolutely in front of us.
28:24We will not call them Ahl-e-Iman or Muslims.
28:26The person who denies Allah,
28:28he denies His Oneness,
28:30he denies the Prophethood of the Holy Prophet,
28:32he denies the Seal of Prophethood of the Holy Prophet.
28:34In our opinion,
28:36That is absolutely right.
28:38If I may,
28:40the meaning of
28:42Takfeer-e-Mutlaq is
28:44that you
28:46have made our beliefs
28:48clear.
28:50The denial of the Oneness of Allah is
28:52Kufr.
28:54The blessed being of the Prophet
28:56Your prophethood and prophethood, your attributes of saints, your end of prophethood, the denial of your glorious attributes, this is kufr.
29:04If someone denies the faith in the hereafter, this is kufr.
29:08So, our Baitullah's prohibition, the prohibition of the poetry of Islam and the prohibition of the ears of Islam and denial of it, this is kufr.
29:16This is absolute takfeer.
29:17You can say by comparing these actions that this is kufr, this is kufr.
29:25But if a person recites the Kalima, who has recited La Ilaha Illa Muhammad Rasool Allah,
29:30now the reason for such actions, me or you, as a citizen, as a scholar, as a teacher,
29:38we do not have the right, the way is that we bring his bad actions to the state.
29:45Now the job of the state is to declare about such a person,
29:49because we have to investigate why he said it, what are the motives behind it.
29:54All that investigation, you and I do not have the right, the state has the right,
29:58and then whoever the state declares, we should ban him.
30:02Yes, my question is...
30:03This is called takfeer-e-mu'ayyin.
30:05Takfeer-e-mu'ayyin, we do not have this right, the state has this right.
30:09Alright, alright.
30:11Mufti Shafiq sahib, I present to you the last moments of the program.
30:15One is the denial of faith.
30:19But there is a person who recites the Kalima,
30:22believes in Allah and His Messenger,
30:24believes in the Oneness of Allah,
30:26believes in the Prophethood of the Holy Prophet,
30:30believes in the Hereafter, but there is a lot of practical conviction.
30:34So does the one who denies practically,
30:37like I have given the reference of Surah Maun,
30:39he does not deny with his tongue, he denies with his actions,
30:43so does the one who denies with his actions,
30:47can he be forgiven by Allah?
30:51Should we hope that Allah will forgive that person?
30:54As far as a person is from among the people of the Qibla,
31:00he prays, and believes in all the fundamental things,
31:05and still, practically, such things are found in him.
31:10As Shah sahib quoted in reference to the prayer,
31:18and this is not a Hadith, but a lot of narrations,
31:21and they are related to different actions.
31:24So, in all these narrations, the one who denies,
31:30does he become a disbeliever or not?
31:33Although this issue is under discussion among the jurists.
31:37But, I will quote Imam Abu Hanifa,
31:43he says,
31:44what has been said is Zajran Tawbeekhan,
31:47and because of this, that person will not become a disbeliever,
31:51nor will he be declared a disbeliever.
31:54A person does not pray,
31:56and is practically denying.
31:59So, the action of the disbeliever is there,
32:03and there is a need to warn him.
32:06But, like the disbelievers, who are disbelievers,
32:12who deny one of the necessities of the religion,
32:15if we include them in the plural, then it is not like that.
32:18So, we can say Zajran Tawbeekhan to warn him,
32:23but because of this, he is not practically a disbeliever.
32:30Yes, because these are the actions of the disbelievers.
32:36This is also called Kufr-e-Asghar.
32:38Kufr-e-Akbar is to deny the necessities of the religion.
32:43Denying Allah's being,
32:46denying the being of the Holy Prophet of Allah,
32:49denying the hereafter.
32:51These are the necessities of the religion,
32:54and it is necessary to believe in them.
32:56But, Kufr-e-Asghar is like a person who does not pray,
33:01and he is a disbeliever.
33:04So, these are the actions of the disbelievers.
33:07And we can expect Allah to forgive him.
33:11Yes, because he is not a disbeliever,
33:15he is a Fasiq-e-Fajir.
33:17He is a Fasiq-e-Fajir,
33:19and he should repent for his actions.
33:22He should repent for his actions,
33:25but he should not be declared a disbeliever.
33:28Yes, absolutely.
33:29I remember the fatwa of Maulana Sana'ullah ibn-e-Sari.
33:34He was a very knowledgeable person.
33:36He was asked about a group of people,
33:39about their Takfeer.
33:41He said that,
33:43regarding the Takfeer of a Kalima,
33:46Imam-ul-Muhtateen, Allah Akbar,
33:49Imam-ul-Muhtateen ibn-e-Sari,
33:51and Imam-ul-Muhtateen Ibn-e-Nisa,
34:01and what is the stance?
34:02I am one of the people of Kab'lah,
34:04and whoever builds the Bayt-ul-Allah,
34:08and builds its Namaz-ul-Kablah,
34:10we are not the people of its Takfeer.
34:12It is with Allah.
34:14Its shortcomings, weaknesses,
34:17We will not call him a non-believer, we will consider him a Muslim.
34:21You said a very beautiful sentence during the conversation of Mufti sahib.
34:25That the person who died without prayer, what do we say about him?
34:29We still expect his forgiveness from Allah.
34:32That Allah is saying the same in the Quran.
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