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00:00Let's talk about the theme of the show, Eien no Tema!
00:06I heard it was a big hit last time.
00:09This is the second time.
00:11I saw it.
00:13When Yuzuru-san said it was better to be ugly,
00:16I was so mad.
00:18I was so mad.
00:21There are various entertainers,
00:23but the answer to this is the real answer of the entertainment world.
00:28That's all.
00:30Somehow, comedy is a Kansai dialect.
00:33It's old.
00:34Let me do it! Let me do it!
00:36Let me do it!
00:37That's how it was born.
00:41A huge debate on the theme of Eien no Tema.
00:44A talk special about comedy.
00:50I wrote my name on the translation notice,
00:52and Seki said,
00:54I'm so mad.
00:57What would you do if I wrote my name on the translation notice?
01:00I would...
01:01I would...
01:02I would...
01:03I would...
01:04I would...
01:05I would...
01:06I would...
01:07I would...
01:08I would...
01:09This time, we're going to talk about the theme of Eien no Tema.
01:16Let's get started.
01:17The first theme is...
01:19As an entertainer, what is marriage?
01:21A plus.
01:22B minus.
01:23Marriage is...
01:24This is hard.
01:25Let's start with the first impression.
01:27For now, the bride and groom are...
01:30Kin-chan and Saiki Moriyama.
01:33They're newlyweds.
01:35That's right.
01:37Now, let's go with intuition.
01:39One, two...
01:45As you can see, the six people chose intuition.
01:48Let's start the talk from here.
01:51Harada and I think it's a minus.
01:54Yes.
01:55We're rivals.
01:57We're VG talents.
01:59We're not VG talents.
02:00We're rivals.
02:01We're not friends.
02:02I'm a member of VG.
02:05What do you think about this?
02:06The bride and groom are...
02:08Kin-chan and Saiki.
02:09I think it's definitely not a minus for me.
02:14And I can't live alone because I have a family.
02:19I see.
02:20I have a daughter, but I want to do my best.
02:24I don't think it's a minus for me.
02:27I see.
02:28It's not a plus, but it's not a minus.
02:29There's only good things.
02:30I've been in the entertainment industry for a long time.
02:33There's a mental sport.
02:34Yes.
02:35What comforts me the most at that time is marriage and family.
02:38Family.
02:39Yes.
02:40I can rely on that.
02:41Yes.
02:42I think it's great to talk about family.
02:44That's right.
02:45We can talk a lot.
02:47Yes.
02:48I told my mom.
02:50Your mom?
02:51What?
02:52Your mom?
02:53I call my wife my mom.
02:54You call your wife your mom?
02:55I thought it would be nice to see your wife.
02:57You have a house.
02:59You have a mom.
03:00I thought I could do something like this.
03:03Of course.
03:04I see.
03:05I called my wife my mom.
03:07I changed a lot.
03:08I think it's definitely a plus for me.
03:11Yes.
03:12It's a good story.
03:13Yes.
03:14You may have a child.
03:17You may have a child.
03:19For example, you may be bullied a lot.
03:25Yes.
03:26What if your child is in puberty?
03:29It's hard.
03:31Nadal is a character like that.
03:34I was told that.
03:35In the past, the real name of Nadal was changed in the theater.
03:38I was called by my real name and bullied.
03:40I became a child, and my real name was changed.
03:44I was bullied on TV.
03:47My friends around me were bullied when I was in puberty.
03:50I thought I would change my name to my real name.
03:52You're a good father.
03:54He is a very good father.
03:55He is a very good father.
03:57You need to be tolerant of your family.
04:00He forgave me.
04:01You should be grateful to your wife.
04:03I said this once on the radio.
04:06I said that you look like a professional wrestler, Tetsuya Naito.
04:09I saw it on the top news article.
04:12It said that Moriyama Mitorizu is married to a woman who looks like Tetsuya Naito.
04:16His wife is going crazy.
04:19That's right.
04:21I don't know because I haven't done it.
04:23There are times when I'm not a person because I say too much.
04:27I run in a strange direction.
04:31At that time, I don't know if I can get married.
04:35I don't know if I can do it.
04:37I think it's easier for people who have something to change to do it.
04:40Even if the world hates you, you can protect it.
04:43When you have someone to protect, you can be strong.
04:47That's really true.
04:50I think it depends on the person.
04:52It's a plus for me.
04:55Kawai and Moriyama are handsome.
04:59It's a popular business.
05:02Moriyama is also a plus.
05:04I've been married for a few months.
05:07I was surprised.
05:09I started laughing because I wasn't popular.
05:13I started laughing because I wasn't popular.
05:18I changed my name to SEKI.
05:21I wrote SEKI.
05:23When I wrote SEKI, my sexual desire was zero.
05:28I was surprised by this phenomenon.
05:31What if I broke my butthole?
05:36I'll kick your ass.
05:39I'll kick your ass.
05:41I'll kick your ass.
05:43I'll kick your ass.
05:46I didn't say that.
05:48I'll kick your ass.
05:51I didn't say that.
05:53I didn't say that.
05:55What's wrong with you?
05:58I don't want to be popular anymore.
06:01You think so, too, right?
06:02Yes, I do.
06:04I think it depends on the timing.
06:06I want to be popular.
06:09But I think it's a minus for me.
06:14If I do it a little more, I'll be criticized.
06:19It's the same with you.
06:23You're not popular at all.
06:26I'm not popular.
06:28I'm not popular.
06:30I'm not popular.
06:33What would you do if you were in the same industry?
06:36What would you do if you were in the same industry?
06:38Is it difficult to work together?
06:40I don't want to leave everything to others.
06:43Do you want to live together?
06:44Yes, I want to live together.
06:46I want to share my pain and sadness.
06:48I want to share my pain and sadness.
06:51It's okay if you share your pain and sadness.
06:55What about you, Harada?
06:56I'm not popular at all.
07:01I heard that you would get married.
07:04I was so nervous at the time.
07:07I want you to get married as a comedian.
07:12I'm worried about you as a comedian.
07:14I'm worried about you as a comedian.
07:16I'm worried about you as a comedian.
07:19I want to get married to you as soon as possible.
07:21You told me that.
07:24I'm worried about you as a comedian.
07:29I'm worried about you as a comedian.
07:32It doesn't matter when I think of it as a human being.
07:38If I were to think of it as a comedian, I would be worried.
07:44If I were to think of it as a comedian, I would be worried.
07:48I'm a B.
07:49I don't think I'm a decent person.
07:54That's true.
07:55That's true.
07:56I've become like this.
07:59I can't get any younger.
08:02You have a dream.
08:03I want to be 45 years old.
08:06I see.
08:08Are you really 45?
08:09This year?
08:10There was a special Shinkansen VTR.
08:13At that time, it took more than 4 hours to get from Osaka to Tokyo.
08:18He said,
08:19I'm sorry.
08:23I know that much.
08:2770, 80.
08:28I'm saying that.
08:30I'll make it more of an episode.
08:33You have a desire to get married, right?
08:35Do I have a desire to get married?
08:36I don't know.
08:37It depends on the person.
08:38Shut up.
08:39What was that?
08:40What was that?
08:42I didn't use my hand.
08:44Snap.
08:45I'll let you hear the snap.
08:46I don't know.
08:47Isn't it better to get married in Harada?
08:49In terms of money.
08:51And the house is like a garbage house.
08:54In Osaka.
08:55Isn't that a loss for one person?
08:57That's right.
09:00I lost.
09:02You lost?
09:03He didn't even reply.
09:04That's amazing.
09:05I thought about it,
09:07but I only said what I wanted to say.
09:10I lost.
09:12I lost.
09:13Really?
09:14I want Lily and Einstein to get married.
09:17That's what I want to do.
09:19Let me do it too.
09:21I can't do it alone.
09:25After discussing,
09:26which one will the six of them choose?
09:29This is difficult.
09:31Let's go to the final judgment.
09:33As a comedian,
09:35plus or minus.
09:36One, two.
09:39It's a unanimous decision.
09:42After all,
09:43Kin-chan's persuasive ability was amazing.
09:46Did I say anything?
09:47No, you didn't.
09:49Unconsciously.
09:50I was actually told so.
09:52I was actually told so.
09:53After I got married,
09:54I've improved a lot.
09:57And me and Kin
09:58don't want to deny our marriage.
10:01So, plus or minus.
10:08The next topic is...
10:11As a comedian,
10:12is it better to start comedy from Kansai
10:16or from Kanto?
10:21I want to hear it.
10:22What do you think?
10:23I don't know.
10:24This is difficult.
10:25It's really difficult.
10:28Which one is it?
10:30It's difficult.
10:31Let's go.
10:32One, two.
10:35I see.
10:39There are a lot of great people in Kansai.
10:42Yes, there are.
10:43Chidori,
10:44Kamaishi,
10:45and now, Einstein.
10:46You can compare them, right?
10:47That's the origin of Kansai.
10:49You can definitely compare them to Kusuo.
10:51In Kanto,
10:52there are no people who are powerful.
10:54So, I think it's cool.
10:56I envy people in New York.
10:59When we go to Osaka,
11:01we don't feel that way,
11:03but when we meet people in Osaka,
11:05they say,
11:06it's Osaka.
11:07Don't go to Osaka.
11:09They say that a lot.
11:11It's really embarrassing.
11:14That's true.
11:15It's embarrassing.
11:19I understand that.
11:20Because comedy is from Kansai.
11:23Suddenly.
11:24It's old-fashioned.
11:25It's old-fashioned.
11:26It's old-fashioned.
11:27Kansai people are more like,
11:28what's up?
11:29It's old-fashioned.
11:31It's amazing.
11:32Kansai has a conservative feeling.
11:34That's true.
11:35It's like, comedy is everything.
11:37Manzai is everything.
11:38Yes, it used to be.
11:39You do things other than comedy.
11:41Comedians sing.
11:42Comedians do apparel.
11:44It's no use.
11:45Just do manzai.
11:46Who is that?
11:47Who is that?
11:48That's amazing.
11:49That's a radical change.
11:50Kansai is amazing.
11:51It has this image.
11:53But,
11:54the bond is very deep.
11:55Yes, it's amazing.
11:56Like Osaka Yoshimoto.
11:57Yes.
11:58Of course, Kanto has a deep bond.
12:00That's true.
12:01If you don't do that,
12:02you'll be like,
12:03let me do it.
12:04Let me do it.
12:05Let me do it.
12:06That's how you'll be born.
12:07Let me do it.
12:08Let me do it.
12:09If you don't do that,
12:10it won't end.
12:11If you ask me,
12:12which is better,
12:13I'd say Kansai.
12:14But,
12:15in terms of benefits,
12:16in terms of benefits,
12:17in terms of benefits,
12:18in terms of Kanto,
12:19in terms of Kanto,
12:20it's like,
12:21it's like,
12:22it's like,
12:23it's like,
12:24it's like,
12:25I think my real power is higher than that of Kansai.
12:29As far as quality goes,
12:30as far as quality goes,
12:31yes,
12:37yes,
12:40yes,
12:41yes,
12:45yes,
12:46yes,
12:47yes,
12:48and
12:49also,
12:50and also,
12:51and also,
12:52and also,
12:53yes.
12:54That's why I think Tokyo's Omonoikou is amazing.
12:58It's really amazing.
13:00There are a lot of show races.
13:02Well, there are young people's show races.
13:04I see.
13:05The winning of the show race is never lost.
13:10But if the show's regular is gone, it's not often that it's written in the title.
13:15I see.
13:16In that sense, I think it's a benefit.
13:18I think Osaka people have a great relationship with the top and bottom.
13:22It's amazing, isn't it?
13:23Yes.
13:24Because they are raised in a teacher-student culture.
13:26When I went to Tokyo, I didn't think it was like that.
13:28Ota from Jumpoke told Jiro, who was a senior,
13:31Jiro, what are you doing today?
13:33I think it's good that Tokyo can be so frank.
13:38I think Kansai taught me a lot about the relationship between the top and bottom.
13:41That's right.
13:42He taught me a lot about it.
13:43No, no, no.
13:44He really taught me.
13:46No one in Kanto knows that.
13:48I'm sorry. I made a mistake.
13:49I was surprised.
13:50In Kansai, I have an image like Yuzuru or Moriyama.
13:54I think Binta is the most interesting.
13:56I have a feeling of that culture.
13:58It's like a laugh of the era.
14:01I think so, too.
14:02But I'm going to say Binta from now on.
14:04I'm sorry.
14:05It's after this, isn't it?
14:07It's going to be done behind the scenes, isn't it?
14:09That may be the case.
14:10In the end, I'll laugh when Chinchin comes out.
14:12That's right.
14:13Chinchin will laugh in Kanto.
14:15That's right.
14:16I'm more attracted to him than I thought.
14:18In the movie, Unagi-san called me out of the theater.
14:22He said, Ina-chan, you'll be attracted to Tokyo very soon.
14:25If you say poop, I'll be attracted to you.
14:27Be careful, Ina-chan.
14:30That's it?
14:31Poop?
14:32Ina-chan, that's it?
14:33Ina-chan said, huh?
14:35Poop?
14:36Ina-chan said, huh?
14:38I was praised for the super tie.
14:41I've seen a lot of super ties like Wespi and Akira 100%.
14:46Ina-chan also wears a super tie.
14:48That's really good.
14:49If you wear a super tie to something fun, you're not attracted.
14:54A big deal?
14:55Ina-chan is already a celebrity.
14:57Ina-chan thinks of poop or Chinchin.
15:01As a result of the discussion, which one did the six choose?
15:05If you want to become a comedian, is it better to start in Kansai or in Kanto?
15:11Ready, set, go!
15:15Oh!
15:16Oh, it's just me.
15:17It's just Lily, B.
15:20Did you draw this?
15:22Yes.
15:23Why?
15:24I'm here because of Osaka.
15:28Looking back, it was a good experience.
15:31To be honest, I don't know if it's a good thing or not.
15:35I think it would have been impossible for Biscuit Brothers to start in Kanto.
15:40They're not smart and they're not flashy.
15:43So, we had a lot of shows in Osaka.
15:47But when we were called by people like us,
15:50we thought Kansai would be better.
15:53If it was someone like us, it would have been better.
15:55It would have been a mess.
15:57Maybe you should have teamed up with someone else.
15:59Maybe you should have said that first.
16:01You guys...
16:02But I don't really have an answer for both.
16:04What do you think about this?
16:06You're young and you're in the first year of NSC.
16:10People don't really ask you what you think about TV.
16:14Yes, yes.
16:15If you do it, maybe you can do it in Kansai.
16:18On the contrary.
16:19There are more people who think like that.
16:22Well, that's a different story.
16:25What?
16:26It's the same story.
16:27Thank you for the meal.
16:29Thank you for the meal.
16:31I'm not going to eat anything.
16:32Why didn't you guys team up?
16:33I don't know.
16:34Thank you for the meal.
16:36What's next?
16:38The last one is...
16:40The last one?
16:41A. Get well before you die.
16:43B. Get sick.
16:47What should I do with this?
16:49The ideal.
16:50The ideal?
16:51The ideal.
16:52Yes.
16:53One, two, three.
16:55KIN-CHAN, BISUBURA is A.
16:58MIDORI-ZU is B.
16:59And we're A and B.
17:01We're divided.
17:02In intuition, the opinions are clearly divided in half.
17:07B is possible even if it's not the ideal.
17:11So if it's the ideal, it's A.
17:15There are people who have appeared in manzai and Shinkieki.
17:20That's really cool.
17:22It's like you're still on the board and waiting for the end.
17:26But the way it ends is the most important.
17:29That's right.
17:30No matter how cool the life of an entertainer is,
17:33if it doesn't end well, it's not good.
17:36If it doesn't end well, it's not good.
17:37If that's the case, I think it's best to quit when you're satisfied.
17:43Of course, people say that a lot.
17:44But Ryuutarou KAMIOKA is the best.
17:47That's right.
17:48When I was a kid, I thought,
17:51Why don't you quit?
17:53That's right.
17:54Of course, entertainers are really cool until they die.
17:57That's right.
18:00I don't know how old I am to retire.
18:04That's right.
18:05I'm being pushed by everyone.
18:09I want to be told,
18:11Please do it in just one year.
18:15That's right.
18:16After that, people's memories will be beautified.
18:20That's right.
18:21It will be inherited as a legend.
18:24The reason I'm A is that if I'm not an entertainer,
18:28I think I'll be an old man at once.
18:30That's what you mean.
18:31I don't use my brain.
18:33I don't have to be conscious.
18:35I see.
18:36Then I'm just a dragon.
18:41If you retire as an entertainer, you'll be a tree.
18:44I think I'll be a tree.
18:45But I don't want to show my old face to my juniors.
18:48I understand.
18:49For example, when I turned 60,
18:5120-year-old comedians said,
18:53Mr. Moriyama doesn't know anything.
18:56Do I have to be an entertainer to do that?
19:00There are a lot of teachers who are laughed at.
19:04I think that's really cool.
19:06That's amazing.
19:07There are teachers of justice.
19:09That's amazing.
19:10It's really cool to be cool.
19:13I wonder if I can be like that.
19:16Like that great teacher.
19:18Of course, it's cool to be on stage until the end.
19:24But I don't know about myself.
19:26I just want to be in a good place.
19:28I want to be told.
19:30After I retire.
19:31That's right.
19:33I don't think I'll say,
19:34Oh, really?
19:36Of course there is.
19:38That's normal.
19:39Both are ideal today.
19:42That's right.
19:43It's a luxury problem.
19:45That's right.
19:46Is it okay to decide?
19:48That's right.
19:49It's a luxury.
19:50If you don't have any money, is it B?
19:53For example,
19:54Salary for 15 years from 60 to 75 years old.
19:58Do you want to be an entertainer for 15 years?
20:02What if you do it for 15 years at 60?
20:08I want to be told.
20:09That's a luxury.
20:10You want to retire right away?
20:11That's true.
20:13But I'm thinking about the ideal.
20:15But it's a luxury.
20:17That's right.
20:18You said it.
20:20It's like I'm crazy.
20:22If you have a salary for 15 years, it's B.
20:29You said it.
20:30You said it.
20:31That's strange.
20:32What's the difference?
20:34What is a luxury?
20:36Even if you received the NGK, you can't change it.
20:39That's the feeling.
20:4280-year-old BAKUSHO.
20:45I can't listen to it anymore.
20:47Did you say it?
20:49I'm sorry.
20:50It's like a key is a key.
20:52I'm going to retire.
20:55I'm going to retire.
20:57What's the point of saying it?
21:00You said it.
21:01It's not that funny.
21:03Now, which one is the ideal ending for the six of them to choose?
21:10One, two, three.
21:12Well, well, well.
21:14Oh, it's the same.
21:15Everyone didn't lose.
21:16Well, this is for everyone.
21:17Well, well, well.
21:18This is of course.
21:19Both are cool.
21:20Certainly.
21:21Each has its own coolness.
21:23The opinions after 10 years may be completely different.
21:25Well, that's a possibility.
21:26That's right.
21:27If it goes on like this, there is a possibility that we, who are 90 years old, are doing manzai.
21:29There is also a possibility that we are not popular.
21:31Please retire.
21:32Hahaha.
21:33Hahaha.