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00:00This program is brought to you by Black Mayonnaise and the worry-stricken young comedians who chat about Japan's worries.
00:21The members of this program are...
00:30Jiji Journalist Hiroshi Hatayama
00:34Journalist Mari Adachi
00:38Violinist Ryo Yamase
00:42Graduate from Tokyo University of the Arts Atsushi Fujimoto
00:48And David Hosein from Iran
00:56Is there anything else you're worried about?
01:00Right after the Ishiba administration was born, there was an election, but I think it was only on election day.
01:12The theme is Japan's worries on election day.
01:17Let's start the chat.
01:20I don't think we do a lot of election-related programs on TV.
01:28Broadcasting is related.
01:31Broadcasting is about being politically fair.
01:35The problem of conflicting opinions should be clarified from as many angles as possible.
01:45It should not be biased.
01:46So even if you make a TV show, it's difficult.
01:52TV and radio are based on the law of broadcasting.
01:59There is a director-general.
02:04There are no newspapers and magazines.
02:06There is nothing to manage newspapers and magazines.
02:09So I can write whatever I want.
02:10But TV and radio are based on the law of broadcasting.
02:15In the past, Takaichi was the director-general.
02:21When Takaichi was the director-general, he said,
02:25There are many opinions that are too strong.
02:31If you do this too much, you will be overthrown.
02:36Do you remember that?
02:38The broadcasting station was very nervous.
02:43They tried not to make a fuss.
02:46Each broadcasting station has its own personality.
02:49There was a time when it was clear that there were both government-oriented and anti-government-oriented stations.
02:57There was such a time.
02:59I haven't said that much since then.
03:02Was it Fox like America?
03:04Fox was more like the Republican Party.
03:07Was there any other time like that in Japan?
03:10I haven't said much about Japan.
03:15It was supposed to have a color.
03:18It is true that it has become very naive.
03:22In a sense, it may be pressure.
03:26It may be true that the opposition is too strong.
03:30It's hard to see how far it's going to go.
03:36I think it's true that it's getting more and more like a safe broadcast.
03:44I understand that.
03:47It's scary if it happens.
03:50If a strange channel becomes like that.
03:52It's better to have more broadcasts.
03:57It doesn't matter if it's a debate or a fight.
04:00But if there are too many parties and 7 or 8 people are invited, it takes a lot of time just to do it for 5 minutes.
04:07To be honest, it's a hassle as a station.
04:10If you look at the fact that you can get a viewing rate just by being careful enough to broadcast,
04:15If you can't get it, you might as well not do it.
04:19But in America, there is a lot of attention.
04:22If it's a TV debate, the viewing rate is very high.
04:24If that's the case, everyone wants to do it.
04:27I think it will change depending on how much the people are interested in politics.
04:34America is one-to-one, so it's easy to see.
04:39But here, I can feel that I have to talk in order.
04:43If you do it like this.
04:46I understand.
04:48It's like, where did you come from?
04:50I wonder if it's possible to divide into groups of four people.
04:55It's like Round 1.
04:58It's better to have something like that.
05:01As an ally.
05:03It's difficult, but you can't do that either.
05:06That's why the voting day is so exciting.
05:09If the election is over, you can do it freely.
05:13I've decided the time to some extent.
05:14That's not good.
05:16Only the people of the people's party, only the people of the people's party.
05:19I sometimes put it in my name.
05:21Even the people of the people's party were behind the money.
05:24I feel sorry for the people.
05:26That's no good.
05:28During the election period, there is a rule that the number of votes should be equal.
05:35However, one side only reported the case of behind the money.
05:38The other side is like a newbie.
05:40The people who saw it are equal, but they are definitely here.
05:43Only the people of the people's party were behind the money.
05:46I don't want to see that.
05:49The people of the people's party have a grudge against the people of the people's party, so they make it easier to understand.
05:56That's right.
05:58That's the way to get the majority.
06:01I remember when I saw it.
06:03I thought it was written behind.
06:05Ura and Ohtani Shouhei are not in the majority.
06:09That's right.
06:11That's right.
06:13Is it more intense in foreign countries before the election?
06:16That's right.
06:18Especially in Norway, where I am a member of the committee,
06:21we have a way of thinking to make people participate in the election earlier than in education.
06:26For example, we teach students how to play politics.
06:28How to play politics?
06:30Yes, we do.
06:32We have a policy that is closer to us.
06:34And Norway has a thing called pre-voting.
06:36Just a week ago, high school students had a pre-voting before the actual election.
06:43That's what gets a lot of attention.
06:46Which one of them will be elected?
06:49That's right.
06:51Those people will be adults soon, so the pre-voting will be very strong in the next election.
06:58In that way, we teach them that they are involved in this country and have a proper role.
07:06So we talk about that in the family.
07:09Is there a teacher who teaches at school?
07:12The students do that.
07:15So the teacher doesn't control it.
07:18You shouldn't have said that.
07:20That's not good.
07:21You shouldn't have said that.
07:24But in Norway, we value the idea of equality.
07:29So we don't have the word teacher anymore.
07:33Now we call each other by first name.
07:36Don't you say teacher?
07:38No, I don't.
07:40I don't know how to say teacher.
07:42Teacher, teacher.
07:44I made a mistake.
07:46Teacher and mother.
07:51Japan is still worried about the election.
07:56Let's go back to the interview.
07:59It may be a little different, but when I was in elementary school,
08:03there were 2 or 3 students who voted for the president,
08:06and a few students who voted for the prime minister.
08:09I felt like the whole school was voting.
08:12But one day, the teacher said,
08:14I felt sorry for the students who failed,
08:17so I talked to the teacher,
08:20and I felt like I had to vote for only one person.
08:25As a child, I felt sorry for the students who failed.
08:30Isn't it the same nationwide?
08:33I think so.
08:35As I said, when I was a child,
08:38there was a student council election,
08:41and I remember voting.
08:44It was a few years ago.
08:47I think it was like that in the beginning.
08:50Gradually, the education field started to say
08:53that it was bad to bring politics into it.
08:56They started to say a lot of things,
08:59and I felt like I had to do something about it.
09:02If it was a local election,
09:04there would be no election.
09:06The speed is the same among the members.
09:09So every game is a fierce battle.
09:13It's funny because everyone is running at the same speed.
09:17The speed is slow, though.
09:19I wanted to ask you about the election.
09:22There is a special voting system.
09:25The voting rate is 70% and 80%.
09:31It's about 5,000 seconds apart,
09:34but it's not equal.
09:37The voting rate is 20%,
09:39and the one who loses by 1,000 seconds
09:42has a penalty.
09:45What is that?
09:47There is an area in the election.
09:50For example, if the population is 200,000,
09:53there is an election with a population of 5,000.
09:56In this area, the data shows
09:59how strong this person is,
10:02so if he loses in this town,
10:05he can't win anymore.
10:07For example, in Osaka,
10:10when the number of votes was higher,
10:13Hiketsu won.
10:16There were areas with more votes,
10:19but Natsu-san said,
10:22this is the only way to win.
10:25So he lost.
10:27Is there always a group of opponents?
10:30Yes, there is.
10:32Are you looking for a fix?
10:34Yes, I'm looking for a fix.
10:37I'm looking for a way to win.
10:40It's like a conspiracy theory,
10:43but it's not like that at all.
10:46That's how people feel when they go to the election.
10:49There are times when you can only go
10:52to the end of the day,
10:55but does it make sense to be me from now on?
10:58I want you to tell me until the last minute.
11:01I went before 8 o'clock
11:04and started the show at 8 o'clock,
11:07and I lost.
11:10I was at the top,
11:13but you were at the bottom.
11:16It's hard.
11:19I'm not good at counting votes,
11:22so I'm not good at counting.
11:25Is there a point in my 7.30 vote?
11:28I don't like that,
11:31so I'll shake it.
11:34I said it before.
11:37It's like an idol from Mr. Otani.
11:40If possible, I want you to come back in the meantime.
11:43Is the exit survey so credible?
11:46It's very credible.
11:49It depends on the station.
11:52The number of witnesses is also different.
11:55In some stations,
11:58it's easy to get accurate information
12:01because the witnesses are spread out.
12:04If you don't have a witness,
12:07you'll be weak, so you'll lose.
12:10Some students don't answer.
12:13Some students don't answer
12:16because they entered the station.
12:19That's a weak point.
12:22You mean, you're being read as
12:25the student who doesn't answer?
12:28Yes.
12:31I've never heard of it,
12:34but a lot of students answered
12:37because they entered the station.
12:40I've played a role in the exit survey.
12:43I did it properly.
12:46For example, I didn't ask
12:49if I heard a man's voice,
12:52so I didn't ask if I heard a woman's voice.
12:55But there are a lot of people
12:58who do it at their part-time job.
13:01Do you do it until 7.30?
13:04No, I don't do it until 7.30.
13:07I don't do it until 7.30.
13:10There are a lot of people
13:13who do the exit survey
13:16until the day before the election.
13:19Yes, there are.
13:22There are a lot of cases
13:25where people who are leading
13:28on the day of the election
13:31lose in the exit survey.
13:34There are people who don't have
13:37the right to vote,
13:40and people who don't have
13:43the right to vote.
13:46So there are people
13:49who don't like the result
13:52of the exit survey.
13:55I see.
13:58What do you think about the election?
14:01I think it's hard
14:04for young people
14:07to participate in the election.
14:10I think it's good
14:13to know the personality
14:16of the candidates
14:19and support them.
14:22So I made a list
14:25and wrote down the candidates'
14:28favorite entertainers,
14:31favorite colors,
14:34and the number of young people
14:37who like them.
14:40I don't know if that's possible.
14:43It's impossible.
14:46I want to support them.
14:49I think there will be
14:52more young people
14:55who are interested in them.
14:58That's a good idea.
15:01We don't have a ballot box.
15:04We can prepare tea, coffee,
15:07and cookies.
15:10We can gather people
15:13and talk with politicians.
15:16We can talk about
15:19what colors they like.
15:22I hope we can do that
15:25in Japan.
15:28It's like a production matching.
15:31I thought there were
15:34a lot of candidates,
15:37but I didn't know
15:40there were so many.
15:43There are about 15 candidates
15:46in Norway.
15:49It's easy to understand
15:52because the colors of the candidates
15:55are clear.
15:58It's not as complicated
16:01as in Japan.
16:04I thought there were a lot of candidates.
16:07Since I came to Japan,
16:10I thought there were a lot of candidates.
16:13I thought there were a lot of people
16:16driving cars and speakers.
16:19I think it's hard to have time
16:22to drink coffee and talk with people.
16:25How many elections are there in Iran?
16:28I think there are elections
16:31once a year.
16:34I don't know.
16:37He doesn't know much about Iran.
16:40He lives in Japan.
16:43He doesn't know much about Iran.
16:46Why do you ask me?
16:49I just said it once.
16:52You don't know much about Iran.
16:55I don't go to Iran.
16:57The theme is Japan is worried about only the voting day.
17:06Let's have a chat.
17:09I wanted to ask you. Is the organization system so unstable?
17:14No, it's not unstable.
17:16But there are times when it collapses.
17:18For example, there is a term called Komeito-san or Komeito-suisen.
17:24It's a very strict system.
17:27For example, even if you get a recommendation from the JCPOA,
17:30if you open the lid, only 60% of it is solid.
17:35There are times when the organization system collapses.
17:39I hope you don't give up.
17:42If the remaining 40% goes up, it won't matter to the organization system.
17:45The higher the voting rate, the different the result from the past.
17:49That's why people don't like the current system.
17:54So, you should go to the voting at 7.30 or 8.00.
17:59The voting rate will be doubled from 7.00 to 8.00.
18:06It will be a game corner.
18:08From now on, it will be 10 points.
18:12But if the remaining 50% of the voting rate is 3%,
18:18if the remaining 47% of the voting rate is 7.30,
18:21the result will change dramatically.
18:24It will be very interesting.
18:26The probability of winning will be very high.
18:29If the voting rate is too high,
18:31I'm a little worried about people who only vote for their face.
18:35Or people who only vote for their sexy appearance.
18:39I'm a little worried about that.
18:43Is that not the case in Norway?
18:45That's right.
18:46As I said earlier, people don't vote for their appearance.
18:50They only vote for their appearance.
18:55I see.
18:57Do you think that people only get excited on election day?
19:04I think that's the case in the world.
19:08People get excited from election day to election day.
19:12I think people watch TV a lot.
19:15Election special edition is held only on election day.
19:20So, the quality of the program can't be improved.
19:22If it was a normal program,
19:24the quality of the program can be improved by experimenting late at night.
19:29However, the quality of the program can't be improved until the election day.
19:33So, the pilot version of the program can't be made.
19:36I think it's a little difficult to talk about the election in this program.
19:42Isn't there such a program on the Internet?
19:46There is no such program on the Internet.
19:48We don't have a license to broadcast the program.
19:52Isn't the debate on the Internet more exciting?
19:57Yes, it is.
19:58We had a lot of debates on the Internet.
20:03We also had a one-on-one debate.
20:06We also had a one-on-one debate.
20:08I see.
20:09Yes, we did.
20:10It wasn't a one-on-one or two-on-one debate.
20:12We had a one-on-one debate.
20:16But we couldn't have a one-on-one debate.
20:19We wanted to see people talking only about the election.
20:22Yes, we did.
20:23We wanted to see people talking only about the election.
20:26So, we had a one-on-one debate on the Internet.
20:29Yes, we had a one-on-one debate on the Internet.
20:31We wanted to see people talking only about the election.
20:33We wanted to see people talking only about the election.
20:36We wanted to see people talking only about the election.
20:38But we couldn't have a one-on-one debate.
20:40We had debates all over the Internet.
20:42But we didn't have time for them.
20:45But we didn't have time for them.
20:47So, the debate did not become more interesting.
20:49So, the debate did not become more interesting.
20:51So, the debate did not become more interesting.
20:53You could have a talk show or a live stream.
20:55You could have a talk show or a live stream.
20:57In general, the winner has to run away.
21:01Even if I don't show up, I have to win.
21:03You can't show up.
21:04Yes.
21:05If you don't show up, you can't win.
21:07That's right.
21:08Oh, really?
21:10Mr. Koike was one of them, right?
21:12Yes, he was.
21:14He was a member of the local government.
21:16If there is a possibility that he will appear in the film,
21:18we will protect him.
21:20This time,
21:22there were a lot of bloodshed.
21:24There were a lot of debates,
21:26but a lot of people didn't appear.
21:28There was one case that was overturned.
21:30There was a debate
21:32at the TV station last year
21:34in Kitakyushu.
21:36There were a lot of bloodshed.
21:38After the bloodshed,
21:40people were forced to
21:42make a decision.
21:44The one who thought he would win
21:46would lose.
21:48There was one case like that
21:50in the local government.
21:52I want him to do it in the election.
21:54I don't know.
21:56I don't know.
21:58Some people judge
22:00by the speed of the election.
22:02In the local government,
22:04the election is very important.
22:06It's about whether he came or not.
22:08I don't know if he came or not.
22:10There were a lot of complaints.
22:12On the contrary,
22:14he didn't come.
22:16If he didn't come to the election,
22:18it means that he abandoned
22:20our area.
22:22This is the way of thinking
22:24of the local government.
22:26At that time,
22:28the election was exciting,
22:30but now it's not.
22:32I think it's a bad phenomenon.
22:34In addition to the broadcasting law,
22:36I think we need to change
22:38the public election law.
22:40You can vote until 20 o'clock
22:42on the day of the election,
22:44but on the day of the election,
22:46you can't move anything
22:48when you think about
22:50where to put it.
22:52That's the law now.
22:54If we don't change it,
22:56we won't understand the meaning.
22:58In the past,
23:00there was a rule
23:02to change the vote
23:04on the day of the election.
23:06But now,
23:08there is a rule
23:10to stand in front
23:12of the polling station
23:14and distribute votes.
23:16I think it's better
23:18to change it.
23:20America is also very exciting.
23:22America is amazing.
23:24It's easy to understand
23:26because it's an extreme country.
23:28It's also easy to understand
23:30because both countries are extreme.
23:32Also, the voting rate
23:34of young people is
23:36completely different.
23:38It's high.
23:40Is TV interesting?
23:42TV is also interesting.
23:44TV has a color,
23:46so if it's FOX,
23:48it's the Republican Party.
23:50But the other day,
23:52Mr. Harris deliberately
23:54changed the vote
23:56on the day of the election.
23:58For example, CNN is more
24:00democratic,
24:02but Trump came
24:04and did it.
24:06But everyone wants
24:08to see it again.
24:10Why is America
24:12facing such an election?
24:14The fact that
24:16we won the election
24:18is a big thing.
24:20In Japan,
24:22if you don't register yourself,
24:24you can't vote.
24:26So,
24:28it's important
24:30to vote
24:32as you claim your rights.
24:34So, the stance is very different.
24:36When the person who supports
24:38you won the election,
24:40you feel like you won.
24:42Do Japanese have to
24:44be like that?
24:46I've been supporting it
24:48since I was young.
24:50When I support,
24:52I try to teach others.
24:54That's how the movement
24:56spreads.
24:58In Norway,
25:00there are many
25:02such meetings.
25:04Trash talk is
25:06very intense in martial arts.
25:08That's why it's so exciting.
25:10In a sense,
25:12it's more humane.
25:14Anyone can understand
25:16each other easily
25:18because they are
25:20attacking each other.
25:22Is it only in America?
25:24Is there such a trash talk
25:26in Norway?
25:28I think it's humane.
25:30Because
25:32there are people
25:34who don't say anything.
25:36If you fight with Trump,
25:38I don't think
25:40he will say anything.
25:42First of all,
25:44you have to deceive him.
25:46Mr. Trump's hairstyle
25:48looks like a typhoon.
25:50It looks like a typhoon.
25:52If I were you,
25:54I would be
25:56like a typhoon.
25:58I would make you wet.
26:02I'm angry now.