The world antifascist festival takes place in la Carlota convention center in Venezuela... Our correspondent Yunus Soner gives us more details in the following report
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00:00And as the World Antifascist Festival takes place in La Carlota Convention Center in Venezuela,
00:06our correspondent Yunus Soner gives us more details in the following report.
00:14The Antifascist International gathered here in Caracas
00:18has convened more than 2,000 delegates from all over the world,
00:22from five different countries, and some of them are coming from Europe,
00:27which is an interesting space.
00:29About that, we have a guest here, Michela Arricale, who is from Italy.
00:34Can you introduce yourself?
00:36Yes, thank you, thank you. I'm Michela Arricale.
00:38I'm a lawyer from Italy.
00:40I'm a co-president of an association called CRED,
00:44the C-R-E-D, the Center for Research and Elaboration for Democracy.
00:48We are a group of lawyers that study institutions
00:54just to check, to fight the fascist line that penetrates our institutions
01:04in Italy and also in Europe.
01:06You know what is happening now in Italy with our far-right government
01:11that are trying to change the constitution,
01:14they are trying to change our constitution.
01:16I think that this is the most beautiful constitution in the world
01:22built after the Second World War and built all against the fascist idea.
01:31Italy, the Republic of Italy, the Democratic Republic of Italy,
01:35exists, as you know, just because it's anti-fascist.
01:40If Italy embraces fascism, it will destroy itself, as we know.
01:47So we are here to make an effort to find a way to fight fascism in Italy
01:56and all over the world, because also this is the focus of our international fight
02:03between two visions of a new world.
02:09A world, a fascist world, where there are exploiters and a democratic world,
02:18because democracy is possible only in a socialist environment.
02:24Everything else is not democracy.
02:27It's a kind of democracy, but in the crisis moment
02:33and to turn in a fascist style of government, as happened in Europe and in Italy.
02:42Can you describe me a little bit concretely what is going on in Italy
02:47regarding the neo-fascism, it's called, in a short way?
02:53It's running. It's not going slow.
02:59It's something that happened very fast.
03:04And they are trying to change our constitution,
03:08to make, to delay every democratic power,
03:15like the parliamentary power, they want to make an executive power.
03:21We have a strong independent magistratura.
03:29Magistrate, magistrate, ok.
03:32And they want to put a judge under the government.
03:38They control the press, they control the media,
03:42they are making some law against the political opponent.
03:51They are making the law against the demonstration outside.
03:57They decide to make a penalty,
04:05to make the straddle block, the typical way of battle of the workers.
04:13In Italy now it's a penalty that you can go to jail for this.
04:21Because they don't want to recognize you as an opponent, or a political opponent.
04:28They want to identify you as an enemy.
04:33We call it right of the enemy, penal right of the enemy,
04:40that's against democracy, that's against every idea of equal rights.
04:46Because they say, if you are with government, you are ok.
04:50If you are against the government, you are a criminal.
04:54You are not a political opponent, but just a criminal.
04:57And they treat you in this way.
05:00This is a general tendency in Europe, right?
05:03The turn towards right wing, authoritarian states.
05:08How far is that connected with the research of neo-imperialism or new aggressiveness?
05:15Until 2020, the economic crisis of the West,
05:29the economic crisis of the West,
05:32is when so far they need war to relocate power.
05:39They are trying to defend their space with the war.
05:46And in the warfare, there is no space for democracy.
05:52Because in Italy, for example, people are against the war,
05:56are against Israel's genocide, are against the NATO war in Russia, against Russia.
06:03But we have no voice on this topic.
06:08If we say this, we risk to go under the judge.
06:13Because in the crisis, in the warfare, everything that goes against the government is an enemy.
06:23So if you say, I don't want war, I want a peaceful war, I want a democracy war,
06:28they say, oh, so you are an enemy with Putin, you are an enemy with Maduro,
06:33so you are also my enemy.
06:35And they block it.
06:37The media shut up you.
06:40If you are weak, probably they train you.
06:47For example, in the context of the genocide in Palestine,
06:54we have a lot of trials against activists that say, stop the genocide, just to say it.
07:04Or we have trials against militants that say, you media, national media,
07:12you are not covering this topic right, because you are shadowbombing the real state of things.
07:24And they try to, because they say, no, you are with the enemy, you are racist,
07:30because you are against Israel, no?
07:33This kind of thing.
07:35And until two years ago, it was just words, no?
07:42They call you as an enemy, they make a lot of media on you as the enemy.
07:49Now it's changing everything.
07:52It's changing everything.
07:54Of course.
07:55For the worst.
07:58Because it's not only the propaganda against you.
08:05It's also the new law they are building to punish you for this.
08:10So, and then you are here in the anti-fascist international.
08:15How do you see it working?
08:17It has gathered already in November, now this is another convention.
08:22How do you see it evolving?
08:24What is the expectation of this congress?
08:27I hope that we can build a strong net.
08:32A strong net because the topic is the same.
08:37The fight for the peace, for a new peaceful world, for a multipolar world is common for us.
08:45And only if we stand together against the power of the West, the imperial West, we can fight them.
08:54Because they are the less, they are the few.
08:57They have economic power, they have political power in this moment, but they are few.
09:03We are the most, so we have power because we are the people.
09:09Thank you very much.
09:11As you see, the anti-fascist international reaches out into Europe and into the basic foundational issues of Europe.
09:23In this case, Italy, where the established democratic order is being contested by neo-fascist movements,
09:31strong neo-fascist movements and the solidarity against these neo-fascist movements proves vital
09:39not only for Italy, but globally, as our guest told us, to maintain peace and to establish a truly multipolar order.